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Primary - Awake

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[ Joey ]
390 posts
Joined May 2013
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[ Joey ]
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 5:07:29 PM

Artist: Primary
Title: Awake
Tags: yuiko yuikonnu Broccoly Lasse Vincent [Vincent] Exote meis clauson Point.
BPM: 200
Filesize: 7045kb
Play Time: 03:29
Difficulties Available:
  1. Advanced (2.94 stars, 472 notes)
  2. Broccoly's Asleep (5.78 stars, 898 notes)
  3. Collab Insane (4.8 stars, 692 notes)
  4. Exote's Hard (3.4 stars, 549 notes)
  5. Expert (5.12 stars, 703 notes)
  6. Lasse's Extra (5.53 stars, 886 notes)
  7. Normal (1.97 stars, 306 notes)
Download: Primary - Awake
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Enjoy :)

Normal: By Me
Advanced: By Me
Hard: By Exote
Collab Insane: By Me and Vincent
Expert: By Me
Lasse's Extra: By Lasse
Broccoly's Asleep: By Broccoly
Last edited by [ Joey ] , edited 58 times in total.
Tachibana
51 posts
Joined November 2010
Tachibana
the first break time feels a little out of place, i think there are enough breaks even without that one
byfar
1,186 posts
Joined July 2014
byfar
why did i post this
23:13 Broccoly: test my map
23:14 byfar: k
23:14 byfar: i'm fonna finish ur gd 
23:14 byfar: soon hopefuly :d
23:14 Broccoly: thank god
23:14 *Broccoly is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/996708 Primary - Awake]
23:18 Broccoly: missing at the climax
23:18 Broccoly: smh
23:18 byfar: sd
23:19 byfar: my left hand
23:19 byfar: went nutz
23:19 Broccoly: nic combo tho
23:19 byfar: i wuz
23:19 Broccoly: hows map feel lik???
23:19 Broccoly: yea h
23:19 byfar: o
23:19 byfar: uhhh
23:19 byfar: some rhythm issues + some parts could have better emphasis i guess
23:19 byfar: umps felt fine
23:19 byfar: but somme extended sliders felt
23:19 Broccoly: k
23:19 byfar: how do i say it
23:20 Broccoly: i think i kno what ur sayin
23:20 byfar: "forced" but not rly forced, i gess it's just somethin u do xd
23:20 Broccoly: yahj..
23:20 Broccoly: what parts
23:20 Broccoly: cud hav mor emphasi
23:20 byfar: ill link
23:20 Broccoly: kk
23:21 byfar: 00:14:897 - wouldd be 1/4 slider
23:21 byfar: jump into slider
23:21 byfar: could be*
23:21 Broccoly: i thuoght of that but it was just the beginning so ikept in tirplet
23:22 byfar: 00:23:597 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - felt kind of forced, but it played alright imo
23:22 Broccoly: mayb i fix
23:22 Broccoly: keep oing
23:22 Broccoly: hmm valid point ok
23:22 Broccoly: keep gonig
23:22 byfar: 00:34:322 - 1/4 is super quiet, dunno if u wanna place a note there
23:23 byfar: maybe instead just space it out :0
23:23 byfar: for bigger emphasis? 
23:23 Broccoly: oh
23:23 Broccoly: tht means remapping the pattern fuK
23:23 Broccoly: mayb
23:23 Broccoly: ..
23:24 byfar: 00:54:497 (6,1) - juzt brocoly thingz.
23:24 Broccoly: is it bad or WOT
23:24 byfar: nothings wrong with it tho xd
23:24 Broccoly: ..,
23:24 Broccoly: -_
23:24 Broccoly: i think it looks and plays cool.
23:25 byfar: uhmmm 01:07:247 (1,2,3,4) - this part of the stream could be like, less spread
23:26 byfar: 01:07:547 (1,2,3,4) - and then this one could 
23:26 byfar: be 
23:26 byfar: way larger
23:26 Broccoly: like
23:26 byfar: so like
23:26 Broccoly: u mean distance?
23:26 Broccoly: between
23:26 Broccoly: notes?
23:26 byfar: opposite of what ur doing right now
23:26 byfar: ye
23:26 byfar: the spacing of stream
23:26 Broccoly: ohj
23:26 byfar: it goes from high > low
23:26 byfar: low > high is better
23:26 byfar: and a bigger contrast
23:26 byfar: is better 2 
23:26 Broccoly: hmm
23:26 byfar: esp if ur gonna do a steam jump
23:27 Broccoly: ill consider tha t acutaly
23:27 byfar: 01:10:547 (2,3) - 
23:27 byfar: spacing is literally the same as 01:10:997 (4,5) - 
23:27 byfar: but wot ever
23:27 byfar: it's aight
23:27 Broccoly: wtf
23:27 byfar: 01:15:047 (1) - spacing to this
23:28 byfar: could be wayy larger xd
23:28 Broccoly: so u want me to fix or what
23:28 Broccoly: ok..
23:28 byfar: http://puu.sh/pjJsi/97a3005127.jpg
23:28 byfar: squarez!!
23:28 Broccoly: i hate squrs
23:28 byfar: no the first one is fine
23:28 Broccoly: trinagle +1
23:28 Broccoly: the
23:28 Broccoly: 3/4 spacing one u mean?
23:29 byfar: 01:35:447 (1) - maybe unstack and ddo something like this ? http://puu.sh/pjJwV/e4edbf4840.jpg
23:30 byfar: stackk doesnt feel right
23:30 byfar: noo i meant the 1/2 spacing xd
23:30 byfar: to the squigly slider
23:30 Broccoly: fu k ur 2slow
23:30 Broccoly: ok.
23:30 byfar: so theres no differentiation
23:30 byfar: between vocal
23:30 byfar: and dnon vocal part
23:31 byfar: so it has the same intensity
23:31 Broccoly: where r u tlkang baout
23:31 byfar: wich isnt logical :0
23:31 byfar: 01:10:547 (2,3) - 
23:31 byfar: the 1 b4
23:31 byfar: circle to squigly
23:31 byfar: slduier
23:31 Broccoly: yeh a
23:31 Broccoly: 01:10:247 (1,2,3) -
23:31 Broccoly: 2 to 3 is bigger
23:31 Broccoly: than 1 to 2
23:31 byfar: z
23:31 byfar: u no wot i mean d
23:31 Broccoly: ??
23:32 byfar: basically
23:32 byfar: spacing could be larger
23:32 byfar: :0
23:32 byfar: on that part 
23:32 Broccoly: from 2 to 3?
23:32 byfar: yea
23:32 Broccoly: why tho
23:32 Broccoly: to do what
23:32 Broccoly: serv what purpose
23:33 byfar: it's rly minor 
23:33 Broccoly: k,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
23:33 byfar: just 
23:33 byfar: nazi things
23:33 byfar: D
23:33 Broccoly: okk
23:33 Broccoly: keepign ogn
23:33 byfar: 01:18:197 (4,5) - maybe rethink the stackk here as well
23:33 Broccoly: gotta listen to what edg maper byfar has to sya
23:33 Broccoly: that i lik cuz
23:33 byfar: wtf i can also be not edgy D
23:33 Broccoly: the tempo is slowing
23:34 byfar: ok
23:34 byfar: could also be due to having no hitsounds
23:34 Broccoly: and stacking expresses that alright ihtink
23:34 byfar: me le getting trig3r3ed
23:34 Broccoly: yea
23:34 Broccoly: mayb..
23:34 Broccoly: l o
23:34 byfar: dunno
23:34 byfar: that part's still strong
23:35 Broccoly: 02:30:197 (4,5) -
23:35 Broccoly: like i did tha for all of them
23:35 Broccoly: 03:22:997 (4,5) -
23:35 byfar: 01:35:297 (5,1) - did u do anything to this part 
23:35 Broccoly: all of the mfeel that wya
23:35 Broccoly: ?
23:35 byfar: lik
23:35 byfar: my suggestion b4
23:35 Broccoly: not yet
23:35 Broccoly: i might tho
23:35 byfar: yea those stacks
23:35 byfar: xd
23:35 byfar: fuykk
23:37 Broccoly: did u lik my hello goodbye sliderz.
23:37 byfar: 02:33:797 (1,1,1,1) - oOoO edgy... 
23:37 byfar: o wot
23:37 byfar: wot slider
23:37 byfar: yea
23:37 Broccoly: idk if ur sarcastic or nt..
23:37 byfar: those are good
23:37 byfar: the hello goodbye 1s
23:37 Broccoly: 02:38:897 (1,2,1,2) -
23:37 byfar: i wasnt being sarcastic there
23:37 byfar: :0
23:37 Broccoly: glad,,,
23:38 byfar: what have memes turned me into..
23:38 Broccoly: do u kno what those r
23:38 byfar: the perspective
23:38 byfar: of other ppl
23:38 byfar: what
23:38 Broccoly: 02:38:897 (1,2,1,2) -
23:38 Broccoly: yea dud u turned so meme.
23:38 byfar:   what did u mean
23:38 Broccoly: i remembr when u wer maknig movements,,
23:38 byfar: "what those r'
23:38 Broccoly: u wer lik
23:38 Broccoly: o-oh,, can u rank sv less than 0.5x??
23:39 Broccoly: so
23:39 Broccoly: those r
23:39 Broccoly: o/ and \o
23:39 Broccoly: hello and goodbye
23:39 byfar: oh LOL
23:39 byfar: didnt notice
23:39 Broccoly: l o
23:39 byfar: mabe better blankets >///<
23:39 Broccoly: but then it becomes
23:39 Broccoly: o)
23:39 Broccoly: (o
23:39 Broccoly: wtf is tht
23:39 byfar: Cx in the chat
23:39 Broccoly: cx
23:39 Broccoly: fuku
23:40 Broccoly: also
23:40 Broccoly: need ur opionion on
23:40 byfar: i think captian hates me now
23:40 byfar: lo
23:40 Broccoly: why
23:40 byfar: i trigger him too much with my memes xd
23:40 Broccoly: like
23:40 byfar: dunno
23:40 byfar: i didnt practice
23:40 Broccoly: okdad captain vinxis ??
23:40 byfar: and he was disappointed in me 
23:40 Broccoly: LO
23:40 byfar: L:0
23:40 byfar: no
23:40 byfar: captin
23:40 byfar: le 
23:40 byfar: CAPit0
23:40 Broccoly: oh
23:40 Broccoly: LOOOOOO
23:40 Broccoly: ok
23:40 byfar: and then
23:40 Broccoly: it s k
23:40 byfar: after uzzi
23:40 byfar: was like
23:40 byfar: "just play it in ur mind" 
23:41 byfar: when captin coudlnt practice cuz his dad was sleeping
23:41 byfar: i was like
23:41 Broccoly: LOL
23:41 byfar: "just play it anywayz :d"
23:41 Broccoly: wait u said that?
23:41 byfar: ya
23:41 Broccoly: fujking
23:41 Broccoly: kk..
23:41 byfar: ok dude
23:41 byfar: u can read chat
23:41 byfar: lo..
23:42 Broccoly: when wa shtat
23:42 byfar: 03:04:697 (2,3,4,5) - mfw not perfect trapezoid wiht heads..
23:42 byfar: lik
23:42 byfar: 2 hours ago
23:42 byfar: 1-2 horus agog
23:42 Broccoly: oh
23:42 Broccoly: ididnt kno
23:42 Broccoly: dud
23:42 Broccoly: no one notices those
23:42 Broccoly: shapes
23:42 byfar: i do
23:42 Broccoly: when u play??
23:42 Broccoly: ithink not...
23:43 byfar: well xd
23:43 byfar: i sorta do xd
23:43 Broccoly: fu,,,
23:43 byfar: cuz followprints
23:43 byfar: 03:26:672 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 
23:43 Broccoly: uhav ocd
23:43 byfar: meme pattern
23:43 Broccoly: L o
23:43 byfar: no i dont have ocd 
23:44 Broccoly: u hit them perfeclty
23:44 byfar: but if it's not perfect
23:44 Broccoly: im meming..
23:44 byfar: i can usually tell
23:44 byfar: xd
23:44 Broccoly: but
23:44 Broccoly: i wasn't trying to make a trapoized
23:44 byfar: ya 
23:44 byfar: i kno
23:44 byfar: it was just 
23:44 byfar: a remark
23:44 byfar: D
23:44 Broccoly: ok..
23:44 Broccoly: thx!!
23:44 Broccoly: so
23:44 Broccoly: 1 questinos
23:44 Broccoly: 02:34:284 (1) -
23:44 Broccoly: this spiner
23:44 byfar: holy shit
23:44 byfar: vinglish
23:44 Broccoly: shd i change to slider
23:44 Broccoly: LO
23:44 byfar: no
23:45 Broccoly: cuz its slowing down
23:45 Broccoly: the song
23:45 Broccoly: is like getting quieter
23:45 Broccoly: i dont wna make people spin crazy
23:45 byfar: oh 
23:45 byfar: yeah
23:45 byfar: tru
23:45 byfar: that could work
23:45 Broccoly: go for it?
23:45 byfar: but make sure the slider shape
23:45 byfar: accompanies
23:45 byfar: the decelerating
23:45 byfar: 1/2 single taps
23:45 Broccoly: oh
23:45 byfar: idk how 2 explain it
23:45 byfar: basically 
23:46 byfar: dont make it look ass :d
23:46 Broccoly: i was gna use a straight slider
23:46 Broccoly: shaped like
23:46 Broccoly: \
23:46 Broccoly: no im jk
23:46 Broccoly: im thinking
23:46 byfar: O slider would be good
23:46 byfar: slightly curved russion slider is also good
23:46 Broccoly: what is russion slidr
23:46 Broccoly: russian?
23:46 byfar: the damnae
23:46 byfar: elvis
23:46 byfar: kind of 1/1 sliders
23:47 Broccoly: lik
23:47 Broccoly: sstraight but
23:47 byfar: http://puu.sh/pjKeG/9fae17713b.jpg
23:47 Broccoly: a lil bit curved?
23:47 byfar: ye
23:47 Broccoly: ohj..
23:47 Broccoly: but
23:47 Broccoly: so
23:47 Broccoly: wat sv
23:47 Broccoly: do u recomend
23:47 byfar: as slow as possible
23:47 Broccoly: rly??
23:47 byfar: yea
23:48 byfar: that's what i would do tho
23:48 Broccoly: ok
23:48 Broccoly: ill come up w somthing
23:48 byfar: depends on what slider
23:48 byfar: u wanna makke
23:48 Broccoly: i was thinking morelik
23:48 Broccoly: long skystar slidrs
23:48 byfar: straight slider> go for likke .25x or .5x
23:48 byfar: i think the spinner 
23:48 byfar: fits really well
23:48 Broccoly: oh rly
23:49 byfar: yea
23:49 Broccoly: ok,,
23:49 Broccoly: ill keep that in mdin
23:49 Broccoly: and ask other ppl 2
23:49 byfar: slider is also good too
23:49 Broccoly: FUK
23:49 byfar: yea go for slider
23:50 byfar: but make sure it's slow
23:50 Broccoly: K
23:50 byfar: toehr wise
23:50 byfar: deceleration
23:50 byfar: 1/2s
23:50 Broccoly: duly notd,,,
23:50 byfar: might as well be pp jumps
23:50 byfar: tbh
23:50 byfar: cuz that's the climax
23:50 Broccoly: tru
23:50 byfar: of the portion
23:50 Broccoly: ill use slow slidr
23:51 byfar: k
23:51 byfar: what else did u want me to tesptlay
23:51 Broccoly: this is only map
23:51 Broccoly: u mean
23:51 Broccoly: patternz?
23:51 byfar: no 
23:51 byfar: map
23:52 Broccoly: koh
23:52 Broccoly: ye ha
23:52 Broccoly: that s it
23:52 Broccoly: can u post this plz
23:52 Broccoly: so joey can get sp
23:52 byfar: no u post it xd
23:52 Broccoly: delete this line
23:52 Broccoly: fuk
23:54 Broccoly: k watev
23:54 Broccoly: wait
23:54 Broccoly: but ur the one giving mdo
23:54 Broccoly: ,,
23:54 byfar: p,
23:54 byfar: same
23:54 byfar: .savelog
Kibbleru
osu! Alumni
5,844 posts
Joined August 2013
Kibbleru
02:38:897 (1,2,1,2) -
02:38:897 (1,2,1,2) -
02:38:897 (1,2,1,2) -
02:38:897 (1,2,1,2) -
02:38:897 (1,2,1,2) -
02:38:897 (1,2,1,2) -
02:38:897 (1,2,1,2) -
02:38:897 (1,2,1,2) -
02:38:897 (1,2,1,2) -

sex
Akitoshi
2,684 posts
Joined August 2014
Akitoshi
Broccoly's Asleep

02:38:897 (1,2,1,2) -
Hello o/
\o Goodbye

take my star cuz quality mep and song ★
Cryptic
551 posts
Joined December 2013
Cryptic
Up the hitsound volume on Brocc's diff to like, 60% or something its way too quiet.

I'll mod this when the entire set is donezzz
Anxient
1,568 posts
Joined June 2014
Anxient
kds hunt

xtreme
00:05:297 (4) - try stacking this note instead. theres little sound here so it doesnt make sense to move it out of the normal ds range. stacking would make more sense imo

00:18:347 (4,5) - wanna try a ctrl g? to get that descending feeling. also imo plays better.
00:34:847 (3,4) - ctrl g these two maybe? itll flow better imo. circle flow is best~ http://puu.sh/qeTps/510ac8fadb.jpg
00:46:397 (1,2,3) - whats up with the shaky sliders? xd looks weird. why not do normal straight sliders?
01:13:997 (1) - ctrl g? i think itll help give the next 2 notes more impact.
01:22:247 (9) - NC coz downbeat?
01:50:597 (6) - wanna NC this? the next 4 notes are kinda emphasized by the way you mapped them lol
02:33:947 (1,1,1) - i seriously think that this could be misread as a triple. why not make it a bit more special? http://puu.sh/qeTCL/f50bf7100a.jpg
02:52:397 (1) - better space this out more :3/ http://puu.sh/qeTE9/0265b615d1.jpg
02:53:447 - start the break over in here, coz the bass is still lingering
03:02:447 (3) - ctrl g works better imo its not overemphasized this way.
03:07:847 (1) - ctrl g might work? the flow from the previous note to this one works good.

good map! me likey
Cryptic
551 posts
Joined December 2013
Cryptic
Rank when? :c
Exote
416 posts
Joined April 2013
Exote
guess
[ Joey ]
390 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
[ Joey ]
Sorry guys, I've been out of town. I'll be back next week. Hopefully Sharkie still wants to make his GD. If not, I'll make my own when I get home, or maybe find another person for GD
[ Joey ]
390 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
[ Joey ]
Anxient's advanced in progress! Then mods!
Exote
416 posts
Joined April 2013
Exote
hype
Lasse
Beatmap Nominator
3,596 posts
Joined June 2011
Lasse
soon (?)
[ Joey ]
390 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
[ Joey ]
Anxient became inactive, so I am making the advanced myself. Will be done very soon! Sorry for the long wait everyone!!
Lasse
Beatmap Nominator
3,596 posts
Joined June 2011
Lasse
can't wake up
Exote
416 posts
Joined April 2013
Exote
never lucky man
Lasse
Beatmap Nominator
3,596 posts
Joined June 2011
Lasse
rankable bitrate mp3:
http://puu.sh/rm5mW/68ef1616a0.mp3
should be same offset if I didn't mess up, so you won't have to change anything else
(but keep the old mp3 somewhere in case something went wrong)

also should probably mute soft-sliderslide
[ Joey ]
390 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
[ Joey ]
Thanks Lasse!
6th
616 posts
Joined December 2014
6th
Hello.

[Normal]
SPOILER
00:11:447 (3,1) - Breaking polarity so early in the song feels a bit weird for an Easy.
00:16:247 (3) - Use symmetry ?
00:51:047 (1) - It's offscreen.
01:19:397 - Using a slider here would be more coherent, actually.
01:36:497 (3,2) - The stack is not really needed so you may want to fix that overlap.
01:49:397 (5) - CTRL+H does flow better and gives the same effect to 01:49:847 (6) - .
02:31:097 (3) - Same issue as earlier. You should move the slider to 02:31:397 -
03:23:897 (3) - Move it a bit to the left so it's less brutal. Although I think again that you should move it to 03:24:197 - lol

[Insane]
SPOILER
Fix preview point (AiMod)
00:16:697 (2,3,4) - That angle is really sharp. Consider moving 5 a bit to the left.
00:28:697 (2) - You can reverse it and make 00:29:147 - clickable since it's stronger.
00:54:497 (5,1) - Why don't you just make it the same as 00:53:897 (2,3,4) - ?
02:10:097 (5,1) - I can understand you wanted to use antiflow but actually it's really inintuitive. You should lower the spacing or rotate (1).
02:17:372 - I guess you can add something here.
02:46:247 (1,2,3) - This feels weird since vocals aren't clickable at 02:45:947 (3) -
03:07:847 (1) - This deserves more emphasis, can you increase the spacing, change its shape or do something ?
03:17:897 (2,3,4,5) - If you want this to work properly then I advise you to move (5) to the left.

[Extra]
SPOILER
00:04:247 (2,3,4,5) - What intensifies in the music to justify a 0.75x SV difference ? :/
00:09:047 (5,1) - I suggest placing them closer to give more impact to 00:09:347 (1,2) -
00:45:497 (2,3) - Consider making it smoother since it does not emphasize anything
00:47:297 (4) - Remove NC
00:58:922 (3) - Remove clap
01:41:897 (2,3,4,5,6) - This movement isn't really intuitive... consider using CTRL+G on 01:42:347 (6,7) -
01:58:997 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - Suddenly decreasing the speed without any direction change is a bit annoying, can you rotate the stream ?
01:59:297 (1) - Remove NC
02:09:947 (5) - Turn it into 2 circles ? Seems to fit better
02:20:897 (5,2) - What about "stacking" them as you did with 02:20:597 (3,5) - ? It could be an interesting pattern.
02:30:647 (1,2) - That extended slider is very annoying to play. It's quite unexpectable since 02:29:447 - 02:30:647 - and 02:30:647 - 02:31:847 - are musically the same.
02:31:847 (1,2) - I think I got your idea. You should move (2) downward so I think it fully fits with it.
02:51:497 (3,1) - This could be easily misreaden. The play could think that the circle is on red tick since 02:45:047 (2,2,2,2) - (etc) are clickable.
03:01:997 - Why does the kiai stop ?

Good luck.
Lasse
Beatmap Nominator
3,596 posts
Joined June 2011
Lasse
only just now I noticed that "Extra" refers to my diff lol
6th

6th wrote:

00:04:247 (2,3,4,5) - What intensifies in the music to justify a 0.75x SV difference ? :/ just a scaling pattern with the piano
00:09:047 (5,1) - I suggest placing them closer to give more impact to 00:09:347 (1,2) - doesnt give it more impact and 1/1 spacing doesnt matter here at all, prefer doing this as it lets me put a nice downwards jump on 00:09:497 (2) -
00:45:497 (2,3) - Consider making it smoother since it does not emphasize anything emphasizes vocals? and plays nice with leniency
00:47:297 (4) - Remove NC doesnt fit nc and stream pattern
00:58:922 (3) - Remove clap I didn't hitsound this (just minor changes) but there is a snare in the music here so it fits well
01:41:897 (2,3,4,5,6) - This movement isn't really intuitive... consider using CTRL+G on 01:42:347 (6,7) - current is http://i.imgur.com/oX7mV10.jpg while yours make transition into slider worse and plays way too snappy here
01:58:997 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - Suddenly decreasing the speed without any direction change is a bit annoying, can you rotate the stream ? changed shape to make angle of slowdown nicer
01:59:297 (1) - Remove NC as before
02:09:947 (5) - Turn it into 2 circles ? Seems to fit better vocal pattern with 02:09:647 (4) -, same as 00:57:647 (4,5) - 03:02:447 (4,5) -
02:20:897 (5,2) - What about "stacking" them as you did with 02:20:597 (3,5) - ? It could be an interesting pattern. unfitting spacing+angle
02:30:647 (1,2) - That extended slider is very annoying to play. It's quite unexpectable since 02:29:447 - 02:30:647 - and 02:30:647 - 02:31:847 - are musically the same. they are not, this one has a strong vocal on the spot where a 1/1 slider would end
02:31:847 (1,2) - I think I got your idea. You should move (2) downward so I think it fully fits with it. no idea what you want me to do here, overlap is already consistent?
02:51:497 (3,1) - This could be easily misreaden. The play could think that the circle is on red tick since 02:45:047 (2,2,2,2) - (etc) are clickable. what, it's literally same rhythm all the time for 02:43:697 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - lol
03:01:997 - Why does the kiai stop ?

Good luck.
thanks!
will put update in the next post instead
don't grave :c
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Spork Lover
722 posts
Joined October 2013
Spork Lover
dw I'm doing a NM in a little bit :)

Heyo guys, random mod from #modreqs <3

For the person that is responsible for the hitsounding, please look through the hitsound related things for all the diffs, 'cause they apply in different spots sometimes.

For all GD'ers, there might be some things that are related to you in the general section as well (like GD name and break time stuff), so please look into that as well xd


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General


Isn't "Extreme" normally thought of as being a higher rated diff name than "Extra"? (Aka Lasse's Extreme and (joey's) Extra)

BG is 1365x768 lol, if you want it to not letterbox that 1 pixel, you can change it if you want xd

The preview point is 10 MS earlier on the Collab Insane and the Extreme difficulty, add them to 00:47:597 instead

I feel like the hitsounds are a little low in volume as a whole in general. The fact that the kiai of the normal (reference) goes up to 65% at max is kinda concerning for a song which is 200 BPM and kinda funky. I won't go into all too much detail about those volume points, but will maybe mention a few volume adjustments on the normal. If you increased it by like 8-10% overall for the strong parts of the song, that would help a lot with hitsound feedback during gameplay :D (as an example, the finishes on spots like 02:18:647 - are really low on the normal) (All of these things seem to mostly apply to the lower difficulties)

The "low volume" especially applies to the finish. I think you need to amp up the volume in general for that hitsound too xd

Should be no issues with stuff like hitsound delay xd

02:53:447 - Many of the diffs don't stretch out the break to this spot, which I feel is really suitable since there's a very audible bass sound in the music.

00:51:497 - 02:03:497 - 03:01:097 - and 03:05:897 - All of these timestamps are confirmed by Joey to be unintentional hitsound wise - Please swap out the finish with a clap on all diffs! (I think I spotted all of them hopefully >.<)

I want starbucks 'cuz of that BG #basic

Normal


00:38:597 - I found this sound a little too low for my liking (and also a little bit out of place, since it's the same volume as the intro, which is a lot less intense) volume-wise. I think 50 like the one after is fine :o

01:49:847 (6) - NC for consistency reasons? (you nc'ed 00:37:997 (1) - )

02:59:897 (4) - for this one in particular, i'd do note + slider 'cause this chorus is a lot more intense than the other two
03:14:297 (4) - same applies to this one (I hope this doesn't make it go over 2* >////////////<)

Advanced

Spread-wise, the jump from AR4 all the way to 7 is HUGE as a second diff of the mapset. If you reduced it to 6.5, it would smoothen out the spread enough for it to be acceptable in my eyes (I found it to be a pretty significant difference in gameplay too). You could also increase the OD to 5, but that's not really necessary, even though that'd probably fit the normal spread too.

00:18:497 (4) - I'd advice doing a clap here :)

00:18:647 (1) - The finishes are sooo quieetttt >.< I didn't even notice it at first

00:34:097 (4) - unsnappu-desu

00:46:397 (1,2) - There's a really strong beat on 00:46:997 - that would be awesome if it was clickable, 'cause it makes the passive 1/4 a lot more comfortable for newbies :3. A way to do it could be like this.

01:40:547 (1,2,3,4) - lowered volume is fine, but not this much, 'cause I can't hear anything tbh xd

01:58:397 (1,2) - same as last lead-in

02:39:047 (1,1) - Hello, goodbye indeed lul xd (cute)

Exote's Hard


00:12:647 (1,3) - You could make those look the same with the curvature the first slider is doing, because the song is doing the same kind of pitch change :o

01:21:797 - Really extreme change in volume pace this suddenly lmfao. You could give 01:21:197 - 60% and 01:21:497 - 65% to smoothen out the 15% increase

Apart from that I have nothing >//<

Collab Insane

(Add some bookmarks for the Collab Insane so I know when the style changes without having to look somewhere else for next time xd)

00:47:147 (6,7,8,9,10,11,1) - This is insanely quiet for some reason lol, it's a super loud part in the song :o

01:21:797 - Look at exote's hard

01:54:047 (2,3) - There's a really strong beat that basically gets ignored because it's emphasized by a reverse arrow. I'd advice to switch this rhythm out for single tap, reverse instead of reverse, single tap

02:45:497 (2) - I feel like 1/2 slider + single tap is better here for some reason, donno why

Extreme


On a sightread, I didn't see a single pattern that I disagreed with on a playthrough, I like the way you constructed a lot of those patterns o.o They were all really fancy and well thought out imo, fun map for reading :D

Only things would be the hitsound stuff and the break from the general chat

Lasse's Extra

Only guy without a spinner, what a rebel Keepo :^) <3

00:35:672 (2,3) - this triple seems very unnecessary imo considering the two lead in triples you did in the beginning of the verse - it makes this one incongruous to play in an unhealthy way

01:22:247 (1) - that's too lewd for me <3

02:15:797 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - no ctrl+G readability here? :( It's lined up sooo nicely for it! (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6319581)

diffs shouldn't be allowed to be this good wtf

Broccoly's Asleep

00:43:097 (6) - I think a clap would fit here

01:45:047 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Maybe making giving this the same readability vibe as 00:23:597 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - would wake the player up? (plz don't judge my horrible pun xd)

01:52:247 (6) - NC, first time I see the combo go over 10

03:26:672 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - NC spam stream like 03:12:047 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - ? Then the last chorus has a clear cut theme for the somewhat long streams ^-^

Also a really good diff o.o

If this graves, I'll cry xd Good luck everyone :D
Sonnyc
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Sonnyc
Lasse - 00:04:547 (3) - 5%?
Lasse
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Lasse
6th:
forgot to reply to your last point: kiai stops cause it's same as 00:57:197 - 02:09:197 - I just feel the music calms down a little here, which also why I use only 1x sv instead of 1.1x
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spork:

for hitsounding: fixed all the clap things
I think the volume settings are totally fine. at least on my diff and I think I copied them from a different one and made some minor adjustents, they are clearly audible withouth drowning out the song

for the difficulty naming: if anything expert would probably be the best choice for 5.09* diff as it is mapped more like an Insane with a bit above average bpm (or "Another" lol)
I'll keep mine on extra no matter what since I prefer that and it perfectly indicates difficulty

keeping the triple for now as there is some rather quiet snare thing and it fits pretty well I think. added a clap on it though since I it's abit nicer that way.
might consider removing it if more people complain but it somehow feel detrimental to rhythm for me here
other thing: judging from your screenshot you didnt want to ctrlg the whole timestamp lol
Got your idea though but I think the big spacing back and forth it creates on 02:16:547 (2) - puts too much emphasis there. and not nearly enough on 02:16:397 (1,3) -
also the current is totally fine to read considering the movement is so repetitive for 02:15:497 (3,4,5,6,7) - => 02:16:247 (7,1,2,3,4) -
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sonnyc:
fixed, it's 25% now
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thanks!


broccoly's diff is missing all the volume changes except start/end btw
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update
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Spork Lover
722 posts
Joined October 2013
Spork Lover
@lasse yeah I only did the ctrl+g stuff on 1,2,3, should've been more clear about that xd
Also yeah, I think Another - Extra would probably be suitable as well
Last edited by Spork Lover , edited 1 time in total.
Mitkoff
351 posts
Joined January 2015
Mitkoff
Hello here O/,
M4M from #modreq
First of all i want to say that here will be a things like "if i map it, i'll do this". It's how i see modding right now. And all here are only my subjective opinion.

[General]
Collab insane and Extreme have previev point 10ms earlier
Tags?

[Normal]

01:06:797 - 01:07:847 - This kiai's breaks feel strange in this diff. Break in middle of slider? Feels bad for me.

Seems too hard as lowest diff. (Generaly because You swap distanse on timeline many times 1/1->1/2 and back, it's hard to read for total newbies)
But it's in rule range, so who cares?

00:04:997 (5) - 1/2 slider enough here

00:17:147 (1,2,3,4) - Why did you change rythm? (00:12:347 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - )
the same structure will be nicer for easy


00:28:697 (1,3) - You can make it on one vertical

00:45:197 (1) -
about flow

00:49:397 (2) - Can You place it a bit higher and left?(~174.81), for illusion of circle flow after 00:48:647 (1) - slider, current one make me crazy(idk why) also it give You a bit more space for this sliders 00:50:297 (4,1) - . Now 4 is off screen like 3/4, looks wierd.

01:00:497 (3) - a bit confusing rythm, You can use this instead
You did't swap accent to weaks beat before
01:00:047 (2) - especially if You go off vocal here
it also applies to
02:12:047 (2,3) - - 03:07:397 (2,3) -


01:11:897 (2,3) - Make it nicer?
box


01:36:497 (3,2,1) - better avoid this overlap imo

01:48:797 (4) - NC? (like here 00:37:997 (1) - )

02:13:997 (1,2) - (also 01:01:997 (1,2)) -
suggest


02:18:497 (1) - Unstack it, feels better, like in another parts

02:43:847 - 02:52:397 - What do You think about to do this part more calm? (I mean map only piano(?) sounds)
How i see it


03:06:797 (1,2) - Can You change flow here, visually it feels really close

03:11:447 (2) - DS 1.0 please

03:20:597 (4,5,1,2) - symmetry a bit off (as square)

[Advanced]

Ar7 too high, 6 is perfect (at least 6.5) (and 7 ar with 4,5 od/hp?)
You can also make od=5 but it's optional. (just perfect for spread :D )

00:13:847 (2,3,4) -
This rythm feels more corect here

00:18:497 (4) - clap?

00:19:247 (3) - Is it necessary? because flow here is really hard...

00:33:047 (1,2) - Blanket looks a bit off in the end

00:34:097 (4) - fix it, 00:33:497 (2,4) - and make them similar

00:43:397 (1,2) - What about ~25 degrees rotate to the left ( flows better imo)
~

00:47:147 (3) - Nice

00:51:497 (2) - 02:03:047 (1) - 03:01:097 (2) - (last one is ok) clap on head i guess instead of finish?

01:05:297 - 02:17:297 - 03:10:097 - Cirle pls , without this clap its sounds wierd (yeah, You follow vacal here but souds wierd anyway :D )

01:14:447 (2,1) -
better blanket?

01:45:047 (1,1,2) -
better flow?

01:50:447 (3,4) - seems a bit hard for this diff.

01:55:097 (2,1,2) - Nice, here it's flows much better then on 43 sec

02:04:847 (2) - finish here (like 00:52:847 (2) - ) and here too 03:02:447 (2) -

02:32:597 (3,1) - improove blanket

02:39:047 (1,1) - my favorite moment

02:58:247 (1,2,3,4) - This rythm is more cool for kiai begining than what You use in 1st and 2nd kiais. Why You use it only in 3d? (at least in 1st one it fits really good)

03:08:897 (4) - Ctrl+h Ctrl+J Ctrl+g (lol) better flow

03:22:997 (3,1) - another blanket



[Hard]

Cool diff really enjoy to play it.

00:06:197 (2,1) - up 2's strat a bit for paralel with 1

00:13:697 (1) - idk why but i missread it everytime :lol:

some blanket shit
slider ends sometimes a bit off
00:35:897 (2,3) -
00:54:797 (1,2,3) -
01:08:297 (1,2) -
01:14:353 (1,2) -
02:07:247 (2,3) -
02:24:572 (3,1) -
02:27:440 (1,2) -
02:09:103 (4,1) -

:? that's it, i can give nothing here...
Really good diff.

[Insane]


00:18:347 (4) - Finish?

00:22:097 (3,4) - 00:25:397 (3,4) - space it a bit more perfectly to ~1.7 It's too close visually right now

00:29:372 (5) - clap instead of finish here
01:54:947 (2) - ^

00:42:947 (2) - clap on head instead of finish

00:45:497 (2,5) - What about curve slider here like 1?

00:47:297 (8) - finish here, i hear there 00:47:147 (6) - same sound

00:51:497 (2) - clap on head? (00:51:497 - 00:52:097 - i did't hear difference between them) same things with other place (02:03:497 (2) - and 03:01:097 (2) - )

00:54:122 - aghh weaks beat mapped as normal... aghh skip them :) . Mb it's good for intensivity in kiai but i dislike them... ( i know it's too subjective)

02:22:697 (2) - why finish on head instead of clap, in first kiai was clap...

02:27:497 (2) - ^

03:05:897 (2) - ^ (like here 00:53:897 (2) - )

02:40:247 (2) - Mb NC here?

Other fine for me, only some HSs seems wrong to me. I pointed what i could found. Maybe You need to recheck it by yourself.


[]
I'm stop here for now. It took more time than i expected :o .
Overall seems good for me. (Hard diff really fun :D )
Goodluck. O/
[ Joey ]
390 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
[ Joey ]
Responding to mods in parts. Updated Lasse's diff. Updated Broccoly's hitsounds

6th wrote:

Hello.

[Normal]
SPOILER
00:11:447 (3,1) - Breaking polarity so early in the song feels a bit weird for an Easy. Hmm, maybe. But I like going to that violin sound. I'll change it if I need to.
00:16:247 (3) - Use symmetry ? sure
00:51:047 (1) - It's offscreen. fixed
01:19:397 - Using a slider here would be more coherent, actually. I like what I have here
01:36:497 (3,2) - The stack is not really needed so you may want to fix that overlap. I think I'll keep the pattern I have
01:49:397 (5) - CTRL+H does flow better and gives the same effect to 01:49:847 (6) - . If I did that, the slider end wouldn't lead into the (6) as nicely.
02:31:097 (3) - Same issue as earlier. You should move the slider to 02:31:397 - same
03:23:897 (3) - Move it a bit to the left so it's less brutal. Although I think again that you should move it to 03:24:197 - lol I think a sharper angle works better here imo

[Insane]
SPOILER
Fix preview point (AiMod)
00:16:697 (2,3,4) - That angle is really sharp. Consider moving 5 a bit to the left. Sharp angles feel good :)
00:28:697 (2) - You can reverse it and make 00:29:147 - clickable since it's stronger. Those two half sliders are representing that piano noise, but your idea would have worked as well
00:54:497 (5,1) - Why don't you just make it the same as 00:53:897 (2,3,4) - ? variety i guess
02:10:097 (5,1) - I can understand you wanted to use antiflow but actually it's really inintuitive. You should lower the spacing or rotate (1). Lowered the spacing a little bit
02:17:372 - I guess you can add something here. I don't hear anything
02:46:247 (1,2,3) - This feels weird since vocals aren't clickable at 02:45:947 (3) - I don't think it feels too weird because the vocals arent very strong.
03:07:847 (1) - This deserves more emphasis, can you increase the spacing, change its shape or do something ? changed the shape
03:17:897 (2,3,4,5) - If you want this to work properly then I advise you to move (5) to the left. This feels fine to me

Good luck.
Thanks for the mod!

Spork Lover wrote:

dw I'm doing a NM in a little bit :)

Heyo guys, random mod from #modreqs <3

For the person that is responsible for the hitsounding, please look through the hitsound related things for all the diffs, 'cause they apply in different spots sometimes.

For all GD'ers, there might be some things that are related to you in the general section as well (like GD name and break time stuff), so please look into that as well xd


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General


Isn't "Extreme" normally thought of as being a higher rated diff name than "Extra"? (Aka Lasse's Extreme and (joey's) Extra) Changed Extreme to Expert

BG is 1365x768 lol, if you want it to not letterbox that 1 pixel, you can change it if you want xd Oh, lol. Ya, I'll fix that

The preview point is 10 MS earlier on the Collab Insane and the Extreme difficulty, add them to 00:47:597 instead Fixed

I feel like the hitsounds are a little low in volume as a whole in general. The fact that the kiai of the normal (reference) goes up to 65% at max is kinda concerning for a song which is 200 BPM and kinda funky. I won't go into all too much detail about those volume points, but will maybe mention a few volume adjustments on the normal. If you increased it by like 8-10% overall for the strong parts of the song, that would help a lot with hitsound feedback during gameplay :D (as an example, the finishes on spots like 02:18:647 - are really low on the normal) (All of these things seem to mostly apply to the lower difficulties) Increased the last kiais to 70% and the other kiais I kept at 65%

The "low volume" especially applies to the finish. I think you need to amp up the volume in general for that hitsound too xd I replaced it with a slightly louder version, it's hard to notice a difference though imo

Should be no issues with stuff like hitsound delay xd

02:53:447 - Many of the diffs don't stretch out the break to this spot, which I feel is really suitable since there's a very audible bass sound in the music. Changed all of my diffs

00:51:497 - 02:03:497 - 03:01:097 - and 03:05:897 - All of these timestamps are confirmed by Joey to be unintentional hitsound wise - Please swap out the finish with a clap on all diffs! (I think I spotted all of them hopefully >.<) fixed

I want starbucks 'cuz of that BG #basic

Normal


00:38:597 - I found this sound a little too low for my liking (and also a little bit out of place, since it's the same volume as the intro, which is a lot less intense) volume-wise. I think 50 like the one after is fine :o Changed to 50

01:49:847 (6) - NC for consistency reasons? (you nc'ed 00:37:997 (1) - ) fixed

02:59:897 (4) - for this one in particular, i'd do note + slider 'cause this chorus is a lot more intense than the other two Changed
03:14:297 (4) - same applies to this one (I hope this doesn't make it go over 2* >////////////<) changed this one too. It's still below 2* :)

Advanced

Spread-wise, the jump from AR4 all the way to 7 is HUGE as a second diff of the mapset. If you reduced it to 6.5, it would smoothen out the spread enough for it to be acceptable in my eyes (I found it to be a pretty significant difference in gameplay too). You could also increase the OD to 5, but that's not really necessary, even though that'd probably fit the normal spread too. Lowered the ar to 6 and increased the od to 5

00:18:497 (4) - I'd advice doing a clap here :) added

00:18:647 (1) - The finishes are sooo quieetttt >.< I didn't even notice it at first Hopefully its a little better now

00:34:097 (4) - unsnappu-desu nice catch

00:46:397 (1,2) - There's a really strong beat on 00:46:997 - that would be awesome if it was clickable, 'cause it makes the passive 1/4 a lot more comfortable for newbies :3. A way to do it could be like this. I don't think I'm comfortable ending a slider on a 1/4 note in an advanced

01:40:547 (1,2,3,4) - lowered volume is fine, but not this much, 'cause I can't hear anything tbh xd increased to 40%

01:58:397 (1,2) - same as last lead-in

02:39:047 (1,1) - Hello, goodbye indeed lul xd (cute)

Collab Insane

(Add some bookmarks for the Collab Insane so I know when the style changes without having to look somewhere else for next time xd) sry >.<

00:47:147 (6,7,8,9,10,11,1) - This is insanely quiet for some reason lol, it's a super loud part in the song :o heh....cause I forgot to hitsound it >.>

01:21:797 - Look at exote's hard fixed

01:54:047 (2,3) - There's a really strong beat that basically gets ignored because it's emphasized by a reverse arrow. I'd advice to switch this rhythm out for single tap, reverse instead of reverse, single tap fixed, made the snare clickable

02:45:497 (2) - I feel like 1/2 slider + single tap is better here for some reason, donno why Gonna keep what I have here

Extreme


On a sightread, I didn't see a single pattern that I disagreed with on a playthrough, I like the way you constructed a lot of those patterns o.o They were all really fancy and well thought out imo, fun map for reading :D

Only things would be the hitsound stuff and the break from the general chat


If this graves, I'll cry xd Good luck everyone :D
Thanks so much! great mod!
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Nekomata
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[ Joey ]
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[ Joey ]

Nekomata wrote:

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Thanks!!
Exote
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ow shit

@Spork Lover

00:12:647 (1,3) - You could make those look the same with the curvature the first slider is doing, because the song is doing the same kind of pitch change :o - ya, but I didn't really map them to pitch, more like variety of sliders

01:21:797 - Really extreme change in volume pace this suddenly lmfao. You could give 01:21:197 - 60% and 01:21:497 - 65% to smoothen out the 15% increase - idk hs aren't mine (pls Joey if you make hs changes copy them to my diff ty~)

Apart from that I have nothing >//<

@Mitkoff

Cool diff really enjoy to play it.

00:06:197 (2,1) - up 2's strat a bit for paralel with 1 - they are already paralel ;o

00:13:697 (1) - idk why but i missread it everytime :lol: - yea cuz overlapped under previous slider's tail, anyway changed all those spaced 1/2s into stacks in this section, except for the 1/2 before the 1/4 reversed, so the only spaced 1/2s that I left are the ones before the 1/4 reversed sliders, the before buildup ones and the after chorus ones.

some blanket shit
slider ends sometimes a bit off
00:35:897 (2,3) -
00:54:797 (1,2,3) -
01:08:297 (1,2) -
01:14:353 (1,2) -
02:07:247 (2,3) -
02:24:572 (3,1) -
02:27:440 (1,2) -
02:09:103 (4,1) -

fixed most of the blankets, the non-fixed ones are pretty much fine

:? that's it, i can give nothing here...
Really good diff.

thanks guys~

http://puu.sh/s7pa9/5891f102eb.osu

sorry Joey if you were waiting for me to respond, pls if there are mods tell me xx
iYiyo
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iYiyo
Hi! M4M from Lasse's Q


  • [General]
  1. Why Expert diff has HP7 while lasse's and broccoly's has 6? I guess is too low.. idk Maybe you can raise it to 7 or at least 6,5? Even the insane has HP7
  2. Remove Widescreen support from all diffs
  3. Idk but you're using some S:C2 but I don't see them in the folder (maybe i'm noob and I don't get it xd)

    [Broccoly's]
  4. 00:11:447 (1,2) - stack with slider tail? same as 00:10:247 (1,2) - 00:15:047 (3,4) - 00:16:247 (1,2) - ?
  5. 00:10:997 (5,6,1) - Idk but the distance here is same for both, while 00:11:297 (6,1) - this should have more emphasis because of the music I guess, why not decreasing 00:10:997 (5,6) - a bit?
  6. 00:19:997 - Why using S:C2? the normal finish doesn't fit good imo
  7. 00:34:097 (6,1,2) - The actual flow feels a bit weird since the slider is going down, which make a bit unnatural to play the next notes. Maybe rotate it so it's like this? http://puu.sh/sjBa7/9e6f591aae.jpg
  8. 00:48:647 (1) - It would be cool if this slider had the same shape as 00:47:147 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Idk if you'd have to change the SV so it suit but give it a try
  9. 01:08:297 (2,5) - This overlaps looks kinda weird compared from all the kiai section u were building before, consider moving it somewhere else D:
  10. 01:38:297 (3,5) - Maybe try to move 01:38:747 (5) - a bit downwards so it doesn't overlap? Right now it's too notorious http://puu.sh/sjBLS/c9a63db14a.jpg
  11. 01:50:897 (1,2,3) - Maybe place the circles so it has a better flow with the linear slider, maybe something like http://puu.sh/sjBQP/42c9897bd7.jpg ?
  12. 01:58:247 (6,1) - Right now the overlap is like in the middle, idk i'd place 01:58:247 (6) - somewhere near the tail of 01:58:397 (1) -
  13. 02:04:397 (1,2,3,4,5) - The rhythm seems to be a bit off to me..mainly because before you were following vocals but not here. Maybe do something like you did before 00:52:847 (4,5) - ? Right now 02:04:847 (3,4) - are not following vocals i guess
  14. 03:12:047 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Why all these NC spam? I guess spamming NC would be more worth it 03:26:672 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - here since you're changing DS and it'd help readability i guess.

    [lasse's]
  15. 00:01:097 (1,1) - NC because of changing SV? there're a few more if you decide to change them.
  16. 00:04:997 (5) - Idk but why 1,2SV here? I guess it's a bit sudden the change there, would recommend to set it to 1,0x
  17. 00:21:047 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - First some slider+notes. Then 00:23:747 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - some mini jumps. After that I expected to have something similar as in the same section tbh... idk how to explain it xd consider doing 00:26:147 (2,3,4,5,6) - these same as first section, which was slider+notes
  18. 00:38:597 (6,7,8) - make DS similar for these? Right now 7 & 6 are too close to each other for that strong section.
  19. 00:40:097 (3) - NC?
  20. 01:22:247 (1) - nice!
  21. 01:31:247 (1,2,3) - maybe make this into a triplet since it's coming from a long break? It might confuse players i guess
  22. 01:40:097 (5,1) - Give more emphasis on 1? maybe move 01:40:247 (1) - to 467|133
  23. 01:52:097 (3) - NC?
  24. 02:52:247 - Imo this beat should be clickable since it's stronger than the other you skipped. (02:50:747 - 02:49:547 - etc etc)
  25. 03:22:697 (2,3) - Why overlap those doubles? I guess it'd be better if you don't overlap it, same from what u did 03:23:897 (3,4) - here

    [expert]
  26. 00:19:997 - Idk but you could offer more here instead of leaving it empty... really unexpected tbh
  27. 01:01:697 (4) - the red node on the slider feels a bit random between all those curved slider. maybe 01:01:397 (3) - copy that and ctrl+g?
  28. 01:31:247 (1,2,3) - maybe make this into a triplet since it's coming from a long break? It might confuse players i guess
  29. 01:35:147 (4) - maybe stack it on 01:35:447 (1) - this slider tail? Right now the DS feels a bit inconsistent
  30. 01:43:397 (4,6,7,1) - Blanket seems a bit off because of stacking, consider blanking it manually?
  31. 01:50:597 (6,7,8,9) - DS here is a bit inconsistent imo
  32. 01:54:797 - Having this empty feels a bit weird when playing, speacilly because the DS is too low imo. I guess it's worth it to map something there
  33. 01:59:597 (6) - NC?
  34. 02:33:947 (1,1,1) - nice idea, but the ds is too low imo, maybe space them with 1,2~1,3?
  35. 03:25:397 (3) - both beats are strong so i guess it'd be nice if both are clickable instead of having a slider there.

    [insane]
  36. 00:47:747 (2) - Maybe give more emphasis increasing the SV just for this slider? Also it could have similar shape like 00:48:647 (1) - . would make a great effect imo
  37. 01:51:047 (9,1) - Increase DS to give more emphasis on 01:51:197 - ?
  38. 01:59:747 (2) - same suggestion as above^
  39. 02:16:847 (3,1) - improve blanket?
  40. 02:52:397 (5) - NC?

    [Exote's]
  41. 00:04:997 (2) - make this a 1/2 slider? 00:05:297 - I don't hear a clear sound here tbh
  42. 01:40:097 (3) - Maybe you can try to make two notes stacked instead to give more emphasis on those beats?
  43. 02:06:047 (3) - apply ctrl+h so it points towards 02:06:347 (4,5) - for better flow?
  44. 02:32:597 (3,4) - This actual pattern has an unnatural movement imo. The flow has some sharp angles which make it hard/weird when playing. I recommend you to arrange this section a bit better imo!

    [Advanced]
  45. 03:01:697 (3,1) - Idk but this overlap seems different from all the others u did before. Maybe 03:01:697 (3) - curve it a bit and move up-right a little?
  46. nothing much to say, the diff is overall good imo

    [Normal]
  47. 01:00:497 (3) - I guess this slider should be 3/2 and start 01:00:647 - here instead, it's more intuitive imo
  48. 01:01:997 (1,2,3) - This pattern should be the same as ^? At least 01:01:997 (1,2) - those should be the same as 00:59:597 (1,2) - i guess
  49. 01:04:397 (1,2) - ^

Solid set. Good luck with it and don't let it die!
Karen
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Karen
from lasse's q
can you check all the mods above and make everything ready? i checked this and it's a very cool set, will post a short mod or something when everything is ready, because seems that you have dropped it for quite some time and some mods are in, i don't want to mod stuffs that people have mentioned :c
[ Joey ]
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Topic Starter
[ Joey ]

Mitkoff wrote:

Hello here O/,
M4M from #modreq
First of all i want to say that here will be a things like "if i map it, i'll do this". It's how i see modding right now. And all here are only my subjective opinion.

[General]
Collab insane and Extreme have previev point 10ms earlier
Tags?

[Normal]

01:06:797 - 01:07:847 - This kiai's breaks feel strange in this diff. Break in middle of slider? Feels bad for me. The gap here is for another kiai burst

Seems too hard as lowest diff. (Generaly because You swap distanse on timeline many times 1/1->1/2 and back, it's hard to read for total newbies)
But it's in rule range, so who cares?

00:04:997 (5) - 1/2 slider enough here ok

00:17:147 (1,2,3,4) - Why did you change rythm? (00:12:347 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - )
the same structure will be nicer for easy
agreed

00:28:697 (1,3) - You can make it on one vertical not sure what you mean

00:45:197 (1) -
about flow
I like that

00:49:397 (2) - Can You place it a bit higher and left?(~174.81), for illusion of circle flow after 00:48:647 (1) - slider, current one make me crazy(idk why) also it give You a bit more space for this sliders 00:50:297 (4,1) - . Now 4 is off screen like 3/4, looks wierd. Fixed I think

01:00:497 (3) - a bit confusing rythm, You can use this instead
You did't swap accent to weaks beat before
01:00:047 (2) - especially if You go off vocal here I'm hitting the bass drums
it also applies to
02:12:047 (2,3) - - 03:07:397 (2,3) -


01:11:897 (2,3) - Make it nicer? fixed
box


01:36:497 (3,2,1) - better avoid this overlap imo I dont mind it

01:48:797 (4) - NC? (like here 00:37:997 (1) - ) fixed

02:13:997 (1,2) - (also 01:01:997 (1,2)) -
suggest
I dont mind what I have here

02:18:497 (1) - Unstack it, feels better, like in another parts If other people complain about this I will change it

02:43:847 - 02:52:397 - What do You think about to do this part more calm? (I mean map only piano(?) sounds) Good idea
How i see it


03:06:797 (1,2) - Can You change flow here, visually it feels really close I don't mind this

03:11:447 (2) - DS 1.0 please fixed

03:20:597 (4,5,1,2) - symmetry a bit off (as square) I wasn't trying to make a perfect square

[Advanced]

Ar7 too high, 6 is perfect (at least 6.5) (and 7 ar with 4,5 od/hp?)
You can also make od=5 but it's optional. (just perfect for spread :D )

00:13:847 (2,3,4) -
This rythm feels more corect here

00:18:497 (4) - clap? added

00:19:247 (3) - Is it necessary? because flow here is really hard... fixed the flow

00:33:047 (1,2) - Blanket looks a bit off in the end made it a little better I think

00:34:097 (4) - fix it, 00:33:497 (2,4) - and make them similar done

00:43:397 (1,2) - What about ~25 degrees rotate to the left ( flows better imo) I think what I have here is good
~

00:47:147 (3) - Nice

00:51:497 (2) - 02:03:047 (1) - 03:01:097 (2) - (last one is ok) clap on head i guess instead of finish? What is wrong with these?

01:05:297 - 02:17:297 - 03:10:097 - Cirle pls , without this clap its sounds wierd (yeah, You follow vacal here but souds wierd anyway :D ) Fixed

01:14:447 (2,1) -
better blanket?
hmm, my blanket seems ok

01:45:047 (1,1,2) -
better flow?
I'll pass on that one

01:50:447 (3,4) - seems a bit hard for this diff. hmm, maybe. I'll change if I have to

01:55:097 (2,1,2) - Nice, here it's flows much better then on 43 sec

02:04:847 (2) - finish here (like 00:52:847 (2) - ) and here too 03:02:447 (2) - added

02:32:597 (3,1) - improove blanket fixed I think

02:39:047 (1,1) - my favorite moment

02:58:247 (1,2,3,4) - This rythm is more cool for kiai begining than what You use in 1st and 2nd kiais. Why You use it only in 3d? (at least in 1st one it fits really good) Because the beginning of the 3rd kiai is different :P

03:08:897 (4) - Ctrl+h Ctrl+J Ctrl+g (lol) better flow ok

03:22:997 (3,1) - another blanket fixed


[Insane]


00:18:347 (4) - Finish? added

00:22:097 (3,4) - 00:25:397 (3,4) - space it a bit more perfectly to ~1.7 It's too close visually right now Not sure what you mean

00:29:372 (5) - clap instead of finish here fixed
01:54:947 (2) - ^ fixed

00:42:947 (2) - clap on head instead of finish fixed

00:45:497 (2,5) - What about curve slider here like 1? nah

00:47:297 (8) - finish here, i hear there 00:47:147 (6) - same sound fixed

00:51:497 (2) - clap on head? (00:51:497 - 00:52:097 - i did't hear difference between them) same things with other place (02:03:497 (2) - and 03:01:097 (2) - ) claps added

00:54:122 - aghh weaks beat mapped as normal... aghh skip them :) . Mb it's good for intensivity in kiai but i dislike them... ( i know it's too subjective) I'm gonna keep it :P

02:22:697 (2) - why finish on head instead of clap, in first kiai was clap... fixed

02:27:497 (2) - ^ fixed all claps

03:05:897 (2) - ^ (like here 00:53:897 (2) - )

02:40:247 (2) - Mb NC here? ok

Other fine for me, only some HSs seems wrong to me. I pointed what i could found. Maybe You need to recheck it by yourself.


[]
I'm stop here for now. It took more time than i expected :o .
Overall seems good for me. (Hard diff really fun :D )
Goodluck. O/
Thanks for the mod!

iYiyo wrote:

Hi! M4M from Lasse's Q


  • [General]
  1. Why Expert diff has HP7 while lasse's and broccoly's has 6? I guess is too low.. idk Maybe you can raise it to 7 or at least 6,5? Even the insane has HP7
  2. Remove Widescreen support from all diffs
  3. Idk but you're using some S:C2 but I don't see them in the folder (maybe i'm noob and I don't get it xd)

    [expert]
  4. 00:19:997 - Idk but you could offer more here instead of leaving it empty... really unexpected tbh I actually like the gap here for my diff
  5. 01:01:697 (4) - the red node on the slider feels a bit random between all those curved slider. maybe 01:01:397 (3) - copy that and ctrl+g? It's still parallel, it looks ok how it is to me
  6. 01:31:247 (1,2,3) - maybe make this into a triplet since it's coming from a long break? It might confuse players i guess I don't think what I have is too difficult
  7. 01:35:147 (4) - maybe stack it on 01:35:447 (1) - this slider tail? Right now the DS feels a bit inconsistent I didn't stack the circle, but I moved the slide before it to fix the DS
  8. 01:43:397 (4,6,7,1) - Blanket seems a bit off because of stacking, consider blanking it manually? fixed
  9. 01:50:597 (6,7,8,9) - DS here is a bit inconsistent imo fixed so (7) (8) and (9) all have the same ds
  10. 01:54:797 - Having this empty feels a bit weird when playing, speacilly because the DS is too low imo. I guess it's worth it to map something there
  11. 01:59:597 (6) - NC? added
  12. 02:33:947 (1,1,1) - nice idea, but the ds is too low imo, maybe space them with 1,2~1,3? [/color]
  13. 03:25:397 (3) - both beats are strong so i guess it'd be nice if both are clickable instead of having a slider there Just to stay consistent I think I'm going to keep what I have

    [insane]
  14. 00:47:747 (2) - Maybe give more emphasis increasing the SV just for this slider? Also it could have similar shape like 00:48:647 (1) - . would make a great effect imo Increased the sv and made a new shape
  15. 01:51:047 (9,1) - Increase DS to give more emphasis on 01:51:197 - ? fixed
  16. 01:59:747 (2) - same suggestion as above^ fixed
  17. 02:16:847 (3,1) - improve blanket? fixed
  18. 02:52:397 (5) - NC? added

    [Advanced]
  19. 03:01:697 (3,1) - Idk but this overlap seems different from all the others u did before. Maybe 03:01:697 (3) - curve it a bit and move up-right a little?
  20. nothing much to say, the diff is overall good imo I like the overlap :P

    [Normal]
  21. 01:00:497 (3) - I guess this slider should be 3/2 and start 01:00:647 - here instead, it's more intuitive imo I changed it around
  22. 01:01:997 (1,2,3) - This pattern should be the same as ^? At least 01:01:997 (1,2) - those should be the same as 00:59:597 (1,2) - i guess The vocals and beats aren't lined up the same way
  23. 01:04:397 (1,2) - ^

Solid set. Good luck with it and don't let it die!
Thanks for the mods!!
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Exote
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@iYiyo

00:04:997 (2) - make this a 1/2 slider? 00:05:297 - I don't hear a clear sound here tbh - all of those similar sliderends have the same sound on the end, it's just quieter here
01:40:097 (3) - Maybe you can try to make two notes stacked instead to give more emphasis on those beats? - oh that's cool
02:06:047 (3) - apply ctrl+h so it points towards 02:06:347 (4,5) - for better flow? - didn't ctrl+h, but improved flow
02:32:597 (3,4) - This actual pattern has an unnatural movement imo. The flow has some sharp angles which make it hard/weird when playing. I recommend you to arrange this section a bit better imo! - from what I see only this reversed is causing the bad flow, I ctrl+g'd and it's sooo smooth rn

thanksss

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