I want to see how Brazil does.
Take it with a grain of salt, since I'm not on tournament staff, but you don't. If you are qualified to register, you simply register. That's all.LoGo wrote:
And still completely 0 information, how do even know who registered from our country? (And argument the ones who want to play will register is not the most correct...) 3rd time asking about this and 0 response...
I couldn't describe it more accurate. Everyone willing to participate, shall register. Teams get formed post registration phase. Whoever did not press "Sign me up" until the 18. October 2015 will not be able to join or participate at any point.Minhtam wrote:
Take it with a grain of salt, since I'm not on tournament staff, but you don't. If you are qualified to register, you simply register. That's all.LoGo wrote:
And still completely 0 information, how do even know who registered from our country? (And argument the ones who want to play will register is not the most correct...) 3rd time asking about this and 0 response...
After October 18, the following procedures happen:
- 1. Any player who violated the osu! community rules within the last 12 months is OUT.
2. Any player ranked outside the top 5000 is OUT.
3. The players that are left are then divided into groups based on their countries.
4. If any country has less than 4 players registered, they are OUT.
5. If a country has about 6-8 players registered, the teams for those countries are formed automatically.
6. If any country has more than 8 players registered, Tournament staff will declare one temporary captain for that country, and will give the list of potential candidates to the chosen captain. It would then be up to the captains to talk to the players on those lists to form teams for their countries.
7. If more than 32 countries satisfy the above conditions, a statistical system will determine the top 32 countries. The rest will be filtered.
But maybe it's not required ? Why bother people if it's not required? Maybe they have plans, i'll need to disturb someone, make them cancel something because i have no idea if i even play ?Loctav wrote:
Bad luck? Find them now. make them sign up now. better safe than sorry, huh?
Well, you suggest to ask them anyway, so there is no change in that... And i'm talking about quality here, find me any sport where you get informed about your team day AFTER registration has ended. Why move towards worse quality, i'm pretty sure it's not that complicated to inform player if he is allowed to play, what his current team is.. If that is complicated, why make such system?CXu wrote:
@LoGo: Ask them to sign up, simple as that. They have to log in on jizz, and click a button.
Don't need them? Cool, they don't need to make room in their schedule to play. Need them? Use them.
Find out later that they can't participate because they're busy? Forfeit the spot to another country.
The situation is exactly the same as before: you can do everything in the exact same order as before, except the pool of users that are willing to participate in the tournament will be in a convenient list rather than having to ask them individually.
I'm talking about general quality not team quality, any competent and serious organization informs you about things before so you can be prepared way better.CXu wrote:
You would have to ask them regardless, if you wanted them to play, or if you wanted them to step in for someone not allowed to play.
You also don't get informed about your team the day after registration. You get a list of players from which you make your team from.
So, have every qualifying player sign up, then after the registration for the tournament (you, as an individual, is registering as a candidate to participate), the temporary captain can pick out the team that has the best chance to win (by discussing this with the rest of their country).
I'm not sure how this worsens the quality of the team. In the end, you end up with the strongest players for your country, that have not broken any rules.
Could they make a list of registered players? Yes. Do you need to know that right now? Not really. In what way does it make your potential team worse?
Minhtam wrote:
Ok, LoGo, let me help you out.
I would suggest that you stop complaining and whining to Loctav and start contacting the other seven players right now to ask them to register. Because if you don't, you have zero chance to participate due to lack of players to form a team.
You honestly have no idea what world cup actually means. The first OWC was basically formed by dedicated players. To have the sense to post on such a forum already that you will voice your opinions whether or not the community will approve. Please grow up and understand that almost everyone here enjoys a game. If only 200 people in your country love a game, doesn't mean that 2 people from another country don't love it as much as you the 200 do. Actually understand from another point of view before speaking. Yes, I am defending LoGo, but only because his argument is just. Anyone who opposes his argument that defines skill and love based on a game's fanbase only seek to deface and discriminate against minorities. They should never be allowed to voice their opinions that only allow the majority to have any proper opinions, if the majority were based in a certain area. Honestly, just be mature about it, and quit acting like the status quo should be defended.Loctav wrote:
I am sure there are other people more than happy to join this competition. If you are so salty about everything, better leave the spot for people who actually enjoy these things.
What LoGo is talking about is almost a non-issue, as more than 8 people can register as a potential candidate to play in the owc, so saying you don't have time to find substitutes is not true. You have time right now to do so.Korbl wrote:
My rank is pretty low. But anyways, please read the words. Do not reply and jump to conclusions. I will ignore all posts that have not been answered by this one. - You're going to ignore all posts about things that haven't been answered by this post?
According to current OWC policy if your rank is under 5000, no matter who you are or what position in Osu! hierarchy you are in, you should have no reason to argue, because you won't even be competing. The only way you will be is by cheating, and we all know that you will be banned eventually. - I'm not sure where you got that from. People are testing and giving input on score v2 regardless of their rank as we speak.
Of course, many people in every e-sport can agree with me that honestly at such high levels, rank shouldn't matter. However, I think that 5000 is pretty lenient considering the number of countries in the world, we can average about 70 players per country. However, for obscure regions, they should be tied together as competition there is limited, and very few players truly are there. - Yeah, that sucks. It's still a world cup though, as in country vs country. Some countries might not participate in some games during the olympics simply because they don't have enough people to form a team to compete.
In fact, other e-sport leagues do this very well by grouping most of the South-East Asia countries into a conglomerate region, and leaving the 3 countries in North America by themselves. Although the numbers are truly large in those competitions, I'm considering that peppy and his team forced Osu! to find players within their own region so that international teams are not made up of rank 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8. - Or simply because it's a world cup. A football team might have people from different countries, but during the world cup, they play for their national team. (Probably. I don't football so idk)
But when a country has less than available player/country population ratio, then there will be major problems for those extremely skilled top tier players that cannot find a team. Though, I am sure that peppy will find a way to resolve this situation. It will certainly be disappointing if some in ranks 500 could not play due to lack of player/country ratios. - Yes. It's unfortunate, but that's how it is.
Another issue that peppy has dealt with is the carrying we have seen in previous OWC. I watched some of those videos, and I understand how it could be a problem. Adjusting a time limit so that people can't set tournaments is a great way to solve stacked teams. However, many players will also agree that time management or "dedication" cannot define one's skill level. - I seriously have no idea what you're talking about. How is carrying relevant to dedication or time management?
In many cases with leagues outside of osu, a substitute is always filled in until a suitable player can be found. No matter what group stage or finals, either the entire team or part of the team plays. No team should be disallowed, because availability is decided by fanbase. - Yes. in OWC you play 4 vs 4. This means that you essentially have 4 substitutes. This also means that a team of 4 people can compete with no substitutes. For any competition, substitutes must be registered beforehand. And "availability is decided by fanbase". Uh? Availability is decided by if you're available at the time or not...SPOILERNo one is trying to oppress or discriminate against the minority. Where do you get that from? What you're talking about has like nothing to do with what LoGo is complaining about in the first place. They want to know if a registered player is allowed to play or not before registration ends, so they can find substitutes if that's the case. Then the issue is solved by finding potential substitutes right now, before the registration ends, because if someone can't play, pick one of the other people who registered. Who knows, someone you thought could play might suddenly have other things to do, and then you'd be screwed if your registered team was already set in stone. The end result is the same though: if the "best" team registered, all you have to do is to pick those players. Any player knows if they have broken any rules or not in the past year, so if they decided to make the "best" team with said player, then I'd suggest picking someone else regardless, as they're most likely lying about it.And to those who think that the opportunity to play in OWC should be given to the most dedicated or pleasure-seeking "countries."Minhtam wrote:
Ok, LoGo, let me help you out.
I would suggest that you stop complaining and whining to Loctav and start contacting the other seven players right now to ask them to register. Because if you don't, you have zero chance to participate due to lack of players to form a team.You honestly have no idea what world cup actually means. The first OWC was basically formed by dedicated players. To have the sense to post on such a forum already that you will voice your opinions whether or not the community will approve. Please grow up and understand that almost everyone here enjoys a game. If only 200 people in your country love a game, doesn't mean that 2 people from another country don't love it as much as you the 200 do. Actually understand from another point of view before speaking. Yes, I am defending LoGo, but only because his argument is just. Anyone who opposes his argument that defines skill and love based on a game's fanbase only seek to deface and discriminate against minorities. They should never be allowed to voice their opinions that only allow the majority to have any proper opinions, if the majority were based in a certain area. Honestly, just be mature about it, and quit acting like the status quo should be defended.Loctav wrote:
I am sure there are other people more than happy to join this competition. If you are so salty about everything, better leave the spot for people who actually enjoy these things.
Why defend the strong, when the weak are shouting? You not only force yourself to a level lower than the weak, but also permanently destroy any semblance to humanity.
it shouldn't be closed,NyaKame wrote:
Awh cmon 18th is not over yet and registration phase is closed, unlucky me my bad i guess
Well no. It should be open again. Our fault! You still have around 14h to register!NyaKame wrote:
Awh cmon 18th is not over yet and registration phase is closed, unlucky me my bad i guess
Thanks a lot, managed to registerLoctav wrote:
Well no. It should be open again. Our fault! You still have around 14h to register!NyaKame wrote:
Awh cmon 18th is not over yet and registration phase is closed, unlucky me my bad i guess
Oh, I would like to know about this too please.Neta wrote:
Idk if there was same question but can i ask if Captain and member list comes out on Oct 19 or more later
I think thats because they have to proceess the registrations... Like, check if the registrations are between 1-5000 rank, eetc.Minhtam wrote:
Then why not screen the players you already have? That means less work later on.
BRASILjuankristal wrote:
I want to see how Brazil does.
Bring me some reasons to be happy about the hispanic/portuguese level <3fabriciorby wrote:
BRASILjuankristal wrote:
I want to see how Brazil does.
we're really excited