luislima wrote:

Hard: 00:03:071 (3) - clap?
00:04:786 (5) - clap?
00:06:500 (4) - clap?
00:08:214 (4) - clap?
00:09:928 (4) - clap?
00:11:643 (6) - clap?
00:13:357 (6,1,2,3,4) - whistle?
00:15:500 (1) - finish?
00:15:928 (2) - whistle and clap?

Insane: 00:03:071 (6) - clap?
00:04:786 (5) - clap?
00:05:643 (2) - clap?
00:06:500 (5) - clap?
00:07:357 (2) - clap?
00:08:214 (7) - clap?
00:08:643 (1) - whistle?
00:09:928 (3) - whistle?
00:11:643 (5) - clap?
00:16:786 (5) - clap?
00:18:500 (6) - clap?
00:20:214 (6) - clap?
00:20:643 (1) - finish?

1. Add "osu!" as source.
2. If you're aiming to get into the contest then you should probably look into the conditions again:

   Collaborations are not allowed. This is a personal decision; I feel single-creator sets give the most conformity.

   as seen at http://blog.ppy.sh/post/129936251068/ma ... s-sep-2015

1. 00:11:643 (1,2,3) - The spacing here is rather extreme for no reason, I'd understand gradual change but 0.97x to 2.17x is pretty big
2. 00:21:607 (4,5,1) - Big spacing with the finish would be really really good.
3. 00:28:786 (1,2,1) - Unfitting spacing again, if I may, a suggestion: Stack 2 at the previous 1, then space the other 1 somewhere nicely, I feel like it goes really well with the change in music.
4. 00:31:143 (2,3,4) - The triplet doesn't go really well into the slider imo.
5. 01:09:500 (5) - I feel like a SV change with holding the note until the blue tick would go really nice with the song.
6. 01:23:214 (5) - Try to do the blanket again, using more than one anchor would help.

1. 00:01:786 (1,1) - The slow SV with the relatively big jump? I don't think it goes really well here.
2. 00:21:928 (1,1,2,3) - Give the pattern some space to breath.

1. 00:05:643 (2,3,4) - The rhythm is really odd to play, especially on Hard.

Avishay wrote:

Oh, didn't realise it was your diff too lol, I was confused by the name. Alao, when I said "room to breath" I meant increasing the spacing a bit.

BoatKrab wrote:

._.

[Easy]
00:04:786 (3,2) - Blanket (ถ้าพี่แก้ อย่าลืมแก้ตัวนี้ด้วยนะ 00:05:214 (1) - ) ไม่ล่ะ ไม่ได้ตั้งใจให้ blanket
00:23:214 (2,4) - โค้งเกินไปหรือเปล่า กลัวว่าจะดูเหมือนไม่ Blanket กัน ;w;
00:56:214 (2) - เปลี่ยนเป็น Hitcircle เดี่ยวๆดีกว่าไหมกำ
01:07:786 (2,2) - Overlap Pls

[Normal]
00:15:071 (3,4,3,3) - Overlap แบบนี้มันแปลกๆนะพี่ ._. ไม่ได้จะ Overlap
01:42:500 (3,1) - Overlap?
02:32:643 - 02:46:357 - คือยากจัง 555+

[Insane]
00:17:000 (6,3) - ไม่ให้มัน Overlap กับ 00:14:857 (3) - หรอ ._. NO.
01:00:500 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Star เบี้ยว :v
01:27:071 (7,1) - Blanket? มั่ส์
02:20:214 (2,1,2,3) - ชอบตรงนี้อ่ะ 5555+ lmao

[Hall]
Nope

หมดแล้วววว เย่ๆ :v

Good luck ~

1. Kiai fountains are way too overused. This is not a recommended way to use kiai sections.
2. Another thing for the kiai, I believe section 01:24:071 - 01:37:786 would've suited a kiai since the music is an intensed version of the previous kiai.

1. 00:13:786 - The strong change of the music is pretty much ignored due to the slider. http://puu.sh/kIAsT/a0d0ef2602.jpg This rhythm will suit better to make that change clickable.
2. 00:17:214 (1) - 00:20:643 (1) - 00:30:928 (1) - 00:34:357 (1) - 00:37:786 (1) - 00:41:214 (1) - Your combo cycle was too short. Remove NC in these objects. Using new combo sparingly is usually a natural decision to make.
3. 00:23:214 (2,4) - I guess your decision here was a pattern based on ctrl+H, and isn't bad. But since the reverses are in a close distance, I wouldn't stay this is a well organized pattern. Rather using a ctrl+J+G from on the current (4) will make your pattern look better. http://puu.sh/kIAAc/dc8d379321.jpg
4. 00:58:357 (1) - 01:05:214 (1) - 01:08:643 (1) - 01:12:071 (1) - 01:15:500 (1) - 01:18:928 (1) - 01:22:357 (1) - 01:39:500 (1) - 01:42:928 (1) - 01:46:357 (1) - 01:56:643 (1) - 02:00:500 (1) - 02:02:643 (1) - 02:20:643 (1) - 02:24:071 (1) - 02:27:500 (1) - 02:30:928 (1) - 02:34:357 (1) - 02:37:786 (1) - 02:41:214 (1) - 02:44:643 (1) - Other objects where removing NC feels better to make it more sparingly.
5. 01:44:643 (5) - 02:02:214 (5) - Add NC.

1. 00:51:500 (1,2,1,2) - I personally think such 1/2 stack under the slider isn't recommended for this difficulty.
2. 02:32:643 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 02:43:143 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I strongly believe these 1/2 clicks were somewhat overused and doesn't fit your overall difficulty.

1. 00:31:250 - Possible spot for an extra note considering your rhythm selection.
2. 00:56:643 - The start of the kiai not being clickable didn't felt nice enough. There were other similar situations before like 00:41:000 (6), but I think at least this needs a fix.
3. 02:18:500 (6) - I believe reduicng 1/4 will make a better start for the kiai by giving a short pause.
4. 02:46:143 (6,1) - Umm personally I think this has a chance for confusion. Consider giving more space so players could at least see the combo numbers. I think that will be a nice ammount of space for readability.
5. Considering the scale of note distances and high ammounts of 1/4 objects, I'm not confident with the spread with Normal.

1. 00:56:428 (1) - I personally didn't felt this single NC played nice enough.
2. 02:02:107 (4,6) - The pattern was broken in-game due to the stack. You may want to remove this stack.

1. 00:05:428 (2,3,1) - Confusing distance setting compared to the rhythm selection. Starting the new combo from 00:05:857 slightly increases readability.
2. 02:18:714 (5) - Consider NC for a better readability.

Kotori-Chan wrote:

from modreqs#

you said m4m,if you want to :3 ? also i'll spend sometime tbh.
i dont mind if you dont want to~
really like that song btw >w<

-GENERAL-

i´m not sure about this audio thingy
you can change it by using some render program like sony vegar or audacity or use some online converter look at 1st page

-EASY-

why is there kiai time ? 00:15:500 (1) -

00:29:214 (1) - ^^^^

00:56:643 (1) - ^^^^

01:37:786 (1) - ^^^^

01:54:928 (1) - ^^^^

02:05:214 (1) - ^^^^ cuz it's my kiai style
idk,but somehow i dont really like this sliders in a easy diff 01:06:928 (1) - and 01:08:643 (1) -
change it if you want ;w; lazy ;w;

-NORMAL-

well,to me it looks pretty fine ;w;

-INSANE-

nice blanket :3 01:01:143 (5) - and 01:02:214 (2) - blanket isn't mean overlap. keep in mind.

why not stack maybe ? 01:11:214 (5) - 01:11:857 (9) - I even not want to stack them

stack 01:14:857 (5) - at the end of 01:15:928 (2) - maybe ;w; ? no, triangle note

somehow i dont really like this pattern 01:41:964 (3,4,5) - move a bit for space room to breath


didnt found something in nanaka hall,s-sry D:

i hope that i could help you at least a little bit,that song is really awesome tho >w<

g-good luck ;w; <3

Thanks ya

maxandcheese wrote:

F U C K R E D D I T G E T T H E B A D G E

Edit: WAT http://puu.sh/kOfYc/bf893eac4b.png

nignog9000 wrote:

Checked it over and it looks like the other guys got mostly everything. I can't see any problems, but im also new at this, so can't really give you any tips, sorry!

HabiHolic wrote:

Hey! Nice map! here is my suggest mod

[Insane]

01:34:786 (2) - i think this Ctrl+G is better flow. so your think is this fine?

Call me,

Charles445 wrote:

Good stuff

I think you might want to end the map at 02:53:214 - ? Since the song changing is supposed to be for the score screen

1. 00:06:500 - Why would you ignore such a prominent beat that is being mapped throughout the whole section? And why did you decide to only ignore this one? Remember that there are three more circles being mapped later on and all of them have the same type of beat, so this shouldn't be an exception.
2. 00:13:786 (1,1) - 01:23:643 (5,1) - A stack on an Easy difficulty? I haven't seen any of them being mapped, to be honest. They can cause some readability issues in these kind of difficulties. You usually want to start using stacks on Normals onwards (but always taking care where you use them). On Easy difficulties, although, it's not appropriate.
3. 00:25:357 (3,1) - Blanket could be improved a lot here, it'd make more sense since you are blanketing with the previous object.
4. 00:54:928 (1,2) - Why are you suddenly separating 'em into two different objects? Do you remember this exact sound at the very beginning of the map, exactly on 00:13:786 (1) - ? You didn't split it up.
5. 02:18:500 (4,1) - Slightly blanket this.
6. 02:41:214 (4) - I don't particularly agree with the direction of this slider, I'm talking specifically about the curve. Why did you curve it on the opposite direction of the flow? And why it's so much curved? You know, players would expect a blanket whenever they see this kind of curve, especially after that linear movement on (1,2,3), so it doesn't flow that good.

1. 00:39:500 (1,2) - Hmmm... quite questionable, this doesn't flow very good.
2. 00:56:643 - Making this sound non-clickable feels just to weird. Such a prominent beat being ignored doesn't makes sense, moreover, remember this is the beginning of the first Kiai, so you really want to make it clickable, you want this to make a difference for over all the notes. You could maybe try something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3983921 would sound better, or maybe you want to make this part less dense (this would be a much more better idea, considering how dense this difficulty already is) and make http://puu.sh/lqyjH/ddd70b9f61.jpg that. Your pick here.
3. 01:23:643 (2,1) - 02:11:643 (2,1) - 1/1 stacked objects should be avoided on Advanced/Normals as players are too used to read them as 1/2 at these days.
4. 01:39:071 (3) - There are two completely different sounds on this object, what are you trying to follow exactly?
5. 01:43:786 (4,1,2) - These are just too weird on this context. Repeat sliders, okay, I'm alright with that. Problem comes when a couple of patterns before of these notes, in 01:24:928 (2,3,4) - appear another three objects being mapped the same way but they have a complete different sound, that's the thing, you should not map (at least on the same section and on low difficulties) different types of sounds but in the same way. Don't you also think, in any case, that 01:40:357 (4) - should be the same? Just saying.
6. 01:54:928 - From here to the Kiai you are mapping a Normal difficulty properly, maybe you are ignoring some very important sounds but this is the way you want the whole map to be done instead of the overdone rhythm you have on the rest of the map. For example, on 02:32:643 - the last Kiai, you have almost 15 seconds of constant mapping with only one little pause in the middle. You should increase the amount of breaks to compensate the spread.
7. On a side note, I don't strongly recommend you to make these 2-repeater sliders (like the one on 01:17:643 (2) - ), they play way too bad and are old-fashioned. There are many other ways to map them and to make a better and appropriate rhythm of them.

1. 00:20:000 (3,4) - Sounds too weird as 00:20:214 - is not clickable, there's a clear triplet and it's easy to detect. You should really try to replace it by http://puu.sh/lqBg6/885f661a1f.jpg . Try to hear to pretty much everything when you are making any rhythm for a Hard, since isn't that easy sometimes!
2. 00:23:214 (4,5,6,7) - Triplets are okay on Hards and making use of them is perfectly fine. But I have seen sooooo many DQs that included "use of stream on Hard isn't rankable". It might be for the BPM, though, but you really should avoid them. Don't use 4 (or more)-notes stream on Hards.
3. 00:56:000 (2,3,1) - The jump should be on (1) instead. Even though both notes are clearly emphasised, you should recognise which beat sounds stronger, and placing a jump from (2,3) isn't the best option here.
4. 01:15:500 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Woah... I wasn't expecting this. I don't have too much to say about this, but at the time (5) appears (1) is still on the screen, being clicked, so misreading this is too easy. This is a complete unrankable pattern and doesn't fit a Hard-level difficulty at all.
5. 01:16:571 (6,1) - 01:18:071 (3,1) - 01:23:643 (4,1) - On the same section, you have 3 different types of patterns. On a 1/2 pattern (the first one) you stack (1) over (6); on a 1/1 pattern (the second one) you stack (1) over (3); on a 1/1 pattern (the last one) you aren't stacking anything. This is completely inconsistent and shouldn't be done on any difficulty. What are you trying to do exactly? Do you want to create a stack on 1/2 or in 1/1? Maybe you don't want to stack anything.
6. 01:45:500 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Once again, as a reminder, no streams on Hard, there are other things you can do to replace this stream, think about them.
7. 01:59:214 (3) - Slider with constant ds on its pattern; 02:00:500 (2,3,4) - (3,4) that have the same rhythm as the previous slider (splitted onto two objects) have a jump from (2,3); 02:02:214 (2,3,4) - same as before, but this time there's a stack between (2,3) instead of a jump.
8. 02:19:786 (1,2) - Why would you place such a jump here? Try reducing this a bit! Please, also use 02:26:643 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - as reference. Same intensity of the beats/sound on the music but there are no jumps at all.
9. 02:20:857 (2,3) - Not only for the sake of consistency, but also for the emphasis audible on the background music, you should make a jump with this pattern.

1. 01:08:857 (1,2,3) - There shouldn't be any jump here, this is rather a calm part.
2. 01:15:071 (6,7) - Such a low spacing going on here, even when you are spacing streams out of their previous objects.

1. 00:23:964 (1,2,3) - Hm... still wondering why you did this.
2. 00:45:071 (2,3,4,5) - Alright, regarding this pattern. First of all why isn't (3) moving upwards already? You really should start increasing the spacing from there. And also (5) should be replaced by one circle on 00:45:714 - in order to make it clickable. There's literally nothing on 00:45:607 - so it's not worth replacing it for a slider.

Yuii- wrote:

So!
I want to discuss a couple of things before someone else re-bubbles.

[General]

Set overall lacks of quality and there are a lot of things that should be fixed before proceeding.
Don't abuse of the Kiai. Don't start a Kiai unnecessary as you did in 01:37:786 - , that's unorthodox and unwanted. Don't overuse them. I just add kiai everywhere i hear strong beat, change rhythm, etc. Tbh I think all fine.
You really should end the map at 02:53:214 - . I actually mapped it for now.

[Easy]

You are not forced to use blankets, but they leave the map on a more polished way and overall it will require less movement, which sometimes is okay, it makes your map looks better overall. You could use blankets on so many places but you decided to not do so. Try to, at least, the objects that could be blanketed, map them properly. Hey, Dont focus in blanket. It's not my style.

1. 00:06:500 - Why would you ignore such a prominent beat that is being mapped throughout the whole section? And why did you decide to only ignore this one? Remember that there are three more circles being mapped later on and all of them have the same type of beat, so this shouldn't be an exception. I decied to let it empty because I want to talk room to breath for newbies.
2. 00:13:786 (1,1) - 01:23:643 (5,1) - A stack on an Easy difficulty? I haven't seen any of them being mapped, to be honest. They can cause some readability issues in these kind of difficulties. You usually want to start using stacks on Normals onwards (but always taking care where you use them). On Easy difficulties, although, it's not appropriate. okay, I agree your discuss.
3. 00:25:357 (3,1) - Blanket could be improved a lot here, it'd make more sense since you are blanketing with the previous object. How to do better?
4. 00:54:928 (1,2) - Why are you suddenly separating 'em into two different objects? Do you remember this exact sound at the very beginning of the map, exactly on 00:13:786 (1) - ? You didn't split it up. I dont forget it all. This pattern is change the music rhythm. you can hear triple in this part.
5. 02:18:500 (4,1) - Slightly blanket this. fix.
6. 02:41:214 (4) - I don't particularly agree with the direction of this slider, I'm talking specifically about the curve. Why did you curve it on the opposite direction of the flow? And why it's so much curved? You know, players would expect a blanket whenever they see this kind of curve, especially after that linear movement on (1,2,3), so it doesn't flow that good.Okay add red trick, seems better than curve

[Normal]

First of all, this is a kind of "Advanced" difficulty, the gap compared to the Easy one is just too high. If you can make this difficulty a bit more harder, please, rename it "Advanced" and make a Normal later on. Otherwise, the spread will remain unbalanced. The whole difficulty lacks of quality, to be fairly honest. Some parts are just too dense, others lack of good flow and some rhythms feel a bit weird. There are also a bunch of NC mistakes, you want to redo the whole combo'ing. I will address every issue below.

1. 00:39:500 (1,2) - Hmmm... quite questionable, this doesn't flow very good. Fine.
2. 00:56:643 - Making this sound non-clickable feels just to weird. Such a prominent beat being ignored doesn't makes sense, moreover, remember this is the beginning of the first Kiai, so you really want to make it clickable, you want this to make a difference for over all the notes. You could maybe try something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3983921 would sound better, or maybe you want to make this part less dense (this would be a much more better idea, considering how dense this difficulty already is) and make http://puu.sh/lqyjH/ddd70b9f61.jpg that. Your pick here. Fixed
3. 01:23:643 (2,1) - 02:11:643 (2,1) - 1/1 stacked objects should be avoided on Advanced/Normals as players are too used to read them as 1/2 at these days. Fixed
4. 01:39:071 (3) - There are two completely different sounds on this object, what are you trying to follow exactly? change it in new update. try to see it
5. 01:43:786 (4,1,2) - These are just too weird on this context. Repeat sliders, okay, I'm alright with that. Problem comes when a couple of patterns before of these notes, in 01:24:928 (2,3,4) - appear another three objects being mapped the same way but they have a complete different sound, that's the thing, you should not map (at least on the same section and on low difficulties) different types of sounds but in the same way. Don't you also think, in any case, that 01:40:357 (4) - should be the same? Just saying. ^
6. 01:54:928 - From here to the Kiai you are mapping a Normal difficulty properly, maybe you are ignoring some very important sounds but this is the way you want the whole map to be done instead of the overdone rhythm you have on the rest of the map. For example, on 02:32:643 - the last Kiai, you have almost 15 seconds of constant mapping with only one little pause in the middle. You should increase the amount of breaks to compensate the spread. Fixed
7. On a side note, I don't strongly recommend you to make these 2-repeater sliders (like the one on 01:17:643 (2) - ), they play way too bad and are old-fashioned. There are many other ways to map them and to make a better and appropriate rhythm of them. Fixed

[Hard]

This difficulty is a mess, let me suggest you a remap. A ton of inconsistencies are present and nobody will let this pass through the qualified section. Rhythm-wise this difficulty is just fine, problem comes with a whole bunch of patterns, jumps, inconsistencies and streams.

1. 00:20:000 (3,4) - Sounds too weird as 00:20:214 - is not clickable, there's a clear triplet and it's easy to detect. You should really try to replace it by http://puu.sh/lqBg6/885f661a1f.jpg . Try to hear to pretty much everything when you are making any rhythm for a Hard, since isn't that easy sometimes!
2. 00:23:214 (4,5,6,7) - Triplets are okay on Hards and making use of them is perfectly fine. But I have seen sooooo many DQs that included "use of stream on Hard isn't rankable". It might be for the BPM, though, but you really should avoid them. Don't use 4 (or more)-notes stream on Hards. okay fix
3. 00:56:000 (2,3,1) - The jump should be on (1) instead. Even though both notes are clearly emphasised, you should recognise which beat sounds stronger, and placing a jump from (2,3) isn't the best option here. This object (3) has start to emphasised for (1) I think they are isn't bad at all
4. 01:15:500 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Woah... I wasn't expecting this. I don't have too much to say about this, but at the time (5) appears (1) is still on the screen, being clicked, so misreading this is too easy. This is a complete unrankable pattern and doesn't fit a Hard-level difficulty at all. Fix
5. 01:16:571 (6,1) - 01:18:071 (3,1) - 01:23:643 (4,1) - On the same section, you have 3 different types of patterns. On a 1/2 pattern (the first one) you stack (1) over (6); on a 1/1 pattern (the second one) you stack (1) over (3); on a 1/1 pattern (the last one) you aren't stacking anything. This is completely inconsistent and shouldn't be done on any difficulty. What are you trying to do exactly? Do you want to create a stack on 1/2 or in 1/1? Maybe you don't want to stack anything. I want to create 1/2 stack then I add spacing to 1/1. Why you don't understand?
6. 01:45:500 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Once again, as a reminder, no streams on Hard, there are other things you can do to replace this stream, think about them. Meh, I tried to explan this, okay fix
7. 01:59:214 (3) - Slider with constant ds on its pattern; 02:00:500 (2,3,4) - (3,4) that have the same rhythm as the previous slider (splitted onto two objects) have a jump from (2,3); 02:02:214 (2,3,4) - same as before, but this time there's a stack between (2,3) instead of a jump. Ignore that pattern. I let for the first time to start that part with sliders
8. 02:19:786 (1,2) - Why would you place such a jump here? Try reducing this a bit! Please, also use 02:26:643 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - as reference. Same intensity of the beats/sound on the music but there are no jumps at all. At my sense. The beats are so loud. That why I place jumps
9. 02:20:857 (2,3) - Not only for the sake of consistency, but also for the emphasis audible on the background music, you should make a jump with this pattern. Fix with ^

[Insane]

Oh, boy this difficulty. You have a ton of

1. 01:08:857 (1,2,3) - There shouldn't be any jump here, this is rather a calm part. Sould like 00:58:357 (1,2,3) - I used the loud whistle to make jump part
2. 01:15:071 (6,7) - Such a low spacing going on here, even when you are spacing streams out of their previous objects.

I'm too tired, the other diffs took so long.

[HOMK]

As well as the Insane, describing this difficulty is very hard. The same kind of sound is being mapped with 20 different rhythms and there's nothing completely solid to say "this could stay". Jumps being too exaggerated, streams being overmapped, other maps don't sound good either as the same sound is mapped with a 1/1 slider and right after it, the same type of sound is represented with a stream.

1. 00:23:964 (1,2,3) - Hm... still wondering why you did this. you didn't here the beats? this part is follow the music rhythm
2. 00:45:071 (2,3,4,5) - Alright, regarding this pattern. First of all why isn't (3) moving upwards already? You really should start increasing the spacing from there. And also (5) should be replaced by one circle on 00:45:714 - in order to make it clickable. There's literally nothing on 00:45:607 - so it's not worth replacing it for a slider.First I make zig-zag streams. then okay, lot of people tell about this anti click stream. I just change it

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There's so much work to do for this mapset. I'd suggest you to take a look at pretty much every difficulty and consider remapping the whole set, actually. You should take care with inconsistencies more, this is very important. Rhythm-wise isn't bad at all, but some very important and loud beats (aka prominents) are being ignored in a very bad way. On the highest difficulties, take care where you place a jump, do it when you hear an accentuation change in the music, not randomly. There are some instances where you decided to place a jump when there's nothing on the music and a very important note has the same spacing as the previous one. Also, this map has a lot of calm parts... try to map them differently, calm parts are meant to be... calm, okay? There should be a moment of "resting". On the last difficulty, don't make jumps seem overdone and exaggerated, the music doesn't support it at all. Last but not least, do not place a stream when there's nothing on the music, that's overmapping and it's not okay; listen to the music carefully, then map.

Good luck with further processing!