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Luel Roseline
Topic Starter
grumd

S A V E R Y wrote:

fergas said the same thing one comment higher cmon
Chiswell
muzukashii is like oni
Luel Roseline

Blonde Hair wrote:

muzukashii is like oni
There's no longer include any Muzukashii diff...
Topic Starter
grumd

Okoratu wrote:

I'll just round up to 7

and uh while playing it i found stuff like
02:47:055 (1,2) - and other readability spikes like 00:58:944 (2,3) - 01:38:553 (1,2,3,4) - 02:57:493 (6,7,8,9,10) - kind of unnecessary because i thought this is hardcore enough already without the need to semi-hide certain things

also why is 02:41:041 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - not a continuous stream it features a constant 1/4 drum doesn't it?

lol thanks for the rsi
The readability spikes are intentional, just to make it more fun. Instead of only reflex play, streams and jumps, you will need to turn on your brain sometimes. To remember a few patterns and learn to read better. Reading is also a part of the game, so when I'm making a top-hard map I want it to be hard in all aspects. The aforementioned patterns aren't unreadable, they are just a bit more hard to read than usual, it's alright.
02:41:041 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - about this, I can strongly distinguish the sounds between the triple and 5-ple, they're totally different, so I wanted to separate them.
Thanks btw, it turned out I came to your mod too late hah :D
Makyu
So, only two diffs? for approval? if the set is complete I can try mod it

also, Insane needs combos lol
Topic Starter
grumd

Makyu wrote:

So, only two diffs? for approval? if the set is complete I can try mod it

also, Insane needs combos lol
Yis, two diffs for approval! Please mod if you can :D
Topic Starter
grumd
sorry for changing the diff names all the time lol
now i guess ya'll will have like 20 diffs in the mapset
but this is essential. now diff names fit the song title so well
also, ncs added in insane, everything done and ready for modding
Topic Starter
grumd
my suggestions for the taiko oni:
1. remove spinners, they have no purpose and they don't fit the song.
2. change sliders to something else, they don't fit the rhythm at all. you still click at 1/4 i believe? not 1/6 in any way and also sounds shitty
3. possibly map the part after 02:06:202 - , it still has a distinguishable beat
and for fatal oni:
1. possibly map the part after 02:06:202 - properly, it still has a distinguishable beat
Hypello

grumd wrote:

my suggestions for the taiko oni:
1. remove spinners, they have no purpose and they don't fit the song.
2. change sliders to something else, they don't fit the rhythm at all. you still click at 1/4 i believe? not 1/6 in any way and also sounds shitty
3. possibly map the part after 02:06:202 - , it still has a distinguishable beat
and for fatal oni:
1. possibly map the part after 02:06:202 - properly, it still has a distinguishable beat
I kinda liked the sliders in the song, this causes people to be able to have variation in scores, even if they have the same full combo and accuracy. I can understand that it doesn't perfectly fit the song, but the thing is that 1/4 notes on a 1/6 rhythm might sound worse. A slider, in my opinion, compensates for the fact that 1/4 doesn't match 1/6, since mistakes are allowed in the slider (without combo break). If I would put 1/4 notes there, they could break combo when they try to follow the rhythm, and encounter a 1/6 rhythm. If you rly don't like sliders, I can adjust them though, since sliders indeed make you click at 1/4. I could put 1/3 notes there??
Spinners could be removed, but the play time would decrease, I suppose.
Topic Starter
grumd
adding spinners for the sake of play time is kinda strange. the play time will still be >5 mins so it's all good.

you don't have to use 1/4 streams at the place of 1/6. you can just remove the slider and try to place a 1/1 there, maybe 1/2, try different things
Xenans
Heyo useless mod incoming (any suggestions that have the word pretty is a useless aesthetics mod)

insane

01:17:539 (1) - Might want to put a circle right after this and move 01:17:815 (2) because it is a strong beat and might feel weird to skip over it

01:23:553 Add a circle here, and move the triple just before this time to make a burst

01:38:898 May want to add a circle here

02:22:792 Bunch of bookmarks

03:09:520 (4,5) - Would turn these into kicksliders to match the beat without really increasing strain

04:28:875 Bunch of bookmarks

05:14:774 (4,5,6,7,1) - Pretty pentagram please

05:25:419 (2) - The jump to this note might be a little to hard

extra

00:03:714 (3) - Note is in a weird spot?]

00:11:179 (1,2,3,4,5) - Make pretty pentagram shape?

00:23:898 (3,5,6) - Not linear

00:27:769 (1,2) - I don't hear anything in the song to suggest a reason for having kicksliders here

01:00:258 (5) - move left make pretty triangle

01:26:110 (9) - Move a bit to make shape look nicer. bit to left+up

02:05:788 (1) - This note is in a bad spot in relation to the timeline spacing. It should be closer to the next slider and further away from the previous triple since there is not need for emphasis on 02:05:926 (2)

02:22:792 - Bunch of unnecessary bookmarks?

02:25:834 (8) - Move down a bit so it makes a pretty hexagon

02:25:972 (9) - Move further away so spacing is more easily read

02:37:723 (5) - I don't think enough emphasis is placed on the spacing for this note, the spacing is the same as 02:38:138 (10) but there is no emphasized beat on the second one.

03:26:387 (6,7,8) - I would rotate these by -45 degrees to have a similar flow to 03:25:972 (2,3,4)

03:27:493 (5) - Kickslider would encompass the beat on the following blue tick nicely although good luck working it into your pattern

03:28:322 (3,4) - Spacing is inconsistent? If you reduced spacing because of the sound on 03:28:322 (3) you don't reduce in other parts of the section that have the same sound.

04:43:530 (2) - Move to fit into the blanket made by the burst 04:42:977 (9,10,11,12,1)

05:16:018 (10) - Ctrl+G and move up a bit to fit previous patterns

05:25:419 (2) - Ctrl+G

05:51:963 (2) - Ctrl+G

I had to mod that on 50% speed the whole time because it was so hard to read :/
Topic Starter
grumd

Xenans wrote:

I had to mod that on 50% speed the whole time because it was so hard to read :/
I was mappng it at 200% because it's too slow, you know 8-)
Thanks, will look at it later today <3
hootco
this is... sexy
2001
Here is a star. I love goreshit and your maps as well. Keep mapping more breakcore!
Topic Starter
grumd

TitansHD wrote:

Here is a star. I love goreshit and your maps as well. Keep mapping more breakcore!
Thanks, I will
Topic Starter
grumd

Xenans wrote:

Heyo useless mod incoming (any suggestions that have the word pretty is a useless aesthetics mod)

insane

01:23:553 Add a circle here, and move the triple just before this time to make a burst
what? anyway added a circle
01:38:898 May want to add a circle here
that's basically the same exact music piece buttttt i barely can hear that blue tick (both here and in the previous part). here it's even hard to change the pattern in a good way AAND i'm lazy so yeah not fixing this one
02:22:792 Bunch of bookmarks
those are to show where the breaks start/end kek
03:09:520 (4,5) - Would turn these into kicksliders to match the beat without really increasing strain
cmon i'm trying not to make this diff the same as extra in terms of difficulty
05:14:774 (4,5,6,7,1) - Pretty pentagram please
it's perfect ok
05:25:419 (2) - The jump to this note might be a little to hard
yeah ikr

extra

00:03:714 (3) - Note is in a weird spot?]
????
00:11:179 (1,2,3,4,5) - Make pretty pentagram shape?
nah i dont wanna
00:23:898 (3,5,6) - Not linear
this pattern omfg, did i do this? or some retarded kid instead of me? wow its so shitty lmao. it fixed the linear thing, but the pattern is shit overall so who cares
00:27:769 (1,2) - I don't hear anything in the song to suggest a reason for having kicksliders here
fixed (only first kickslider didnt have a sound)
01:00:258 (5) - move left make pretty triangle
fixed??? idk
01:26:110 (9) - Move a bit to make shape look nicer. bit to left+up
yes
02:05:788 (1) - This note is in a bad spot in relation to the timeline spacing. It should be closer to the next slider and further away from the previous triple since there is not need for emphasis on 02:05:926 (2)
this pattern is perfect, if you want an explanation, come and ask me ingame later
02:22:792 - Bunch of unnecessary bookmarks?
why hate my bookmarks? do they like ruin anything or what lol
02:25:834 (8) - Move down a bit so it makes a pretty hexagon
no
02:25:972 (9) - Move further away so spacing is more easily read
well, the spacing between those kicksliders and this circle, and between this circle and the next one should be indeed a bit different to emphasize the 1/4
02:37:723 (5) - I don't think enough emphasis is placed on the spacing for this note, the spacing is the same as 02:38:138 (10) but there is no emphasized beat on the second one.
what about the pitch going up here on the second one?
03:26:387 (6,7,8) - I would rotate these by -45 degrees to have a similar flow to 03:25:972 (2,3,4)
it's already made to fir that flow... mirrored those previous sliders
03:27:493 (5) - Kickslider would encompass the beat on the following blue tick nicely although good luck working it into your pattern
i totally dont wanna add it because the next kicksliders are placed on a very hard and distinguishable beat, it just will not fit
03:28:322 (3,4) - Spacing is inconsistent? If you reduced spacing because of the sound on 03:28:322 (3) you don't reduce in other parts of the section that have the same sound.
well i changed it a bit
04:43:530 (2) - Move to fit into the blanket made by the burst 04:42:977 (9,10,11,12,1)
04:43:253 (1,2,3) - can you see the triangle?
05:16:018 (10) - Ctrl+G and move up a bit to fit previous patterns
no
05:25:419 (2) - Ctrl+G
ok
05:51:963 (2) - Ctrl+G
no

I had to mod that on 50% speed the whole time because it was so hard to read :/
thankies ma frend some things were helpful
will update a bit later
also i fixed bookmarks just as you asked!!!!
Sonnyc
[extra]
  1. 00:58:737 (1,2,3) - Players will deal with this properly enough, but I doubt this level of pattern appearing this spot.
  2. 03:30:672 (4,5) - Are you sure with this rhythm? It doesn't fit well with the music for me.
Yuii-
Add the other Taiko GDer's nickname to tags!!
Topic Starter
grumd

Sonnyc wrote:

[extra]
  1. 00:58:737 (1,2,3) - Players will deal with this properly enough, but I doubt this level of pattern appearing this spot.
    can't see anything wrong with it, i like it
  2. 03:30:672 (4,5) - Are you sure with this rhythm? It doesn't fit well with the music for me.
    03:43:944 (5,6) - 03:48:368 (5,6) - this rhythm is used a lot of times, and not even only in this dark part. everywhere. imo it's totally alright
thanks sonnyc
Topic Starter
grumd

Yuii- wrote:

Add the other Taiko GDer's nickname to tags!!
wtf i thought i added it already... anyway thanks, fixed
Makyu
I took my time to mod this, and didn't find anything good at all, I hope this can help you.

[General]
  1. Inconsistency in Tags
    {aeonnzr's oni} : breakcore comfywolf loctav semantics benzo chronicles
    {aEoNNzR's Taiko Oni} : breakcore ComfyWolf Loctav Semantics Benzo Chronicles
    {extra} : breakcore comfywolf aeonnzr loctav semantics benzo chronicles
    {fatal oni} : breakcore comfywolf loctav semantics benzo chronicles
    {insane} : breakcore comfywolf aeonnzr loctav semantics benzo chronicles
    {Remember} : breakcore ComfyWolf Loctav Semantics Benzo Chronicles
  2. Timing is inconsistent


[extra]

General

  1. Why don't you call this Extra instead of extra?
  2. lol do you even bookmark bro?[/b]

Playability

  1. I was waiting a note here 00:08:138 - there is an audible beat there, why did you choose not to add a circle there?
  2. what do you think about moving this note 00:56:249 (5) - clores to previous (4) slider tail? instead of his head, this way the movement feels more natural with the next circle
  3. I thing you should move 00:57:631 (1,2) - circle (2) closer to slider (1), I know this is one of the "red" parts of the song, but this isn't kiai time, and I think this can be a bit confusing, not much for pro players
  4. isnt this triplet 00:59:152 (4,5,6) - out of context? I think this triplet can be somewhere else, stacked is really confusing to play imo, also, the spacing with (6) is complete unpredictable, this is a big turn off >.<
  5. What do you think about moving this note 01:30:811 (1) - here? with a better blanket of course, I think this way flows better

Presentation

  1. imo moving this triplet 00:09:797 (5,6,7) - here: x:408 y:204 looks better
  2. Why dont you made this following notes 00:55:419 (1,3) - 00:56:387 (6,4) - 01:42:147 (3,1) - a blanket? playabiliti doesn't change at all and looks better
  3. tbh I dont like the way this two notes look 01:59:843 (3,4) - , what do you thing about this?, this can change a bit the way you want that part to flow, but I think its better and playable
  4. Making this slider 02:34:405 (9) - with this rotate settigs, I thinks looks better
  5. I don't like this, but I dont have any sugestions. 03:32:055 (5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - I think it looks a bit ugly.
  6. make this slider 03:45:189 (7) - curvy? it looks better because of the previous stream concavity
  7. You can improve the way this 04:43:253 (1,2,3) - three sliders looks, example, if you do this, perhaps you want to change the position of this two notes 04:44:014 (4,5) -
  8. What do you think about changing this 05:08:553 (8) - to make it look like a blanket? like you did with previous patterns before
  9. I don't like the way this last four notes looks 05:09:590 (12,13,14,1) - , what do you think about this? you can make it look way better, with more time

Nazi

  1. stack this notes better? 02:59:567 (3,3) -

Combos

  1. I would change some of the combos, but I will not mention it since you are using colors to emphazise the sb and changing any combo will be a pain in the ass

Sounds

  1. Everything seems fine

Overall

  1. Pretty well made, there all of this are mere sugestions, the only thing I really see necesary to change is the one I mentioned here: 00:59:152 (4,5,6) other than that, I really enjoyed this map.



[insane]

General

  1. Why don't you call this Insane instead of insane?
  2. You sure have a lot of fun with bookmarks

Playability

  1. What about adding a note here? 01:06:410 - in the head of 01:06:479 (1) - it makes feel that section less empty, same here: 01:07:516 -

Presentation

  1. what do you think about changing this 00:32:746 (5,6) - for something like this?
  2. I think moving this two notes 00:55:834 (3,4) - to make them blankets its a good idea, and it doesn't change the playability at all
  3. I think you can improve this pattern 01:30:811 (1,2,3,4) - for something like this, looks way better
  4. I was expecting this 01:37:861 (4,5) - to be blanket when played the map for the first time
  5. What do you think about this? here: 01:53:207 (3,4) - what I did was, using a copy from slider (4) I used Ctrl+H and J then rotate it -45° and blanked it with 01:53:069 (2) -
  6. What do you thing about this? here:05:16:848 (3,4) - , perhaps if you like this you will have to modify the next pattern a bit to make the spacing better and readable

Nazi

  1. Stack this notes better? 03:46:156 (2,3) - 03:50:857 (4,4) - 06:12:562 (4,2) -
  2. You can improve this blanket 06:13:668 (4,2) -

Combos

  1. I will say the same here as extra, some combos can be improven but yeah...

Sounds

  1. Everything seems fine

Overall

  1. This is really hardcore for an Insane player at some points, I got some problems but nothing to worry, I really liked, only minor changes about Presentation, nothing really important, good job.
Rapthorn
🔪💀🔪💀🔪💀🔪💀🔪💀 gore shit go౦re sHit🔪thats ✔ some gore🔪🔪shit right🔪🔪there🔪🔪🔪 right✔there ✔✔if i do ƽsaү so my self 💉 i say so 💉 thats what im talking about right there right there (chorus: ʳᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ) mMMMMᎷМ💉🔪🔪 🔪НO0ОଠOOOOOОଠଠOoooᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒoo🔪🔪🔪 💉 🔪 💀💀 💀 🔪Gore shit
Luel Roseline
(Wake up, nominators.)
/me runs.
Loctav
aaaa, you changed capitalization, aaaa
Topic Starter
grumd

Loctav wrote:

aaaa, you changed capitalization, aaaa
complaints are not acceptable :p
Raiden
soon tm

although i don't plan on modding 2 diffs >_>

Topic Starter
grumd

Raiden wrote:

although i don't plan on modding 2 diffs >_>
so just bubble them \:D/
Luel Roseline
2015-12-19 AM 11:40 (GMT +9:00) Status
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Raiden
derping like hell

[>fatal oni<]
general: remove soft hitsounds pls thanks normal default tyty

missed some spots where you could add notes such as 00:03:230 - and 00:05:442 - etc. i don't think quints increase the density that much in fact you already have them at 00:09:520 - which is quite early if you ask me, why not in all spots? :3
00:14:774 (119) - kat? kinda snare like 120t
00:15:465 (124,125,126,127) - i'd definetely say (kkkd) as the blender goes nuts (high tone) at first but then at 00:15:603 - there is a drum hit
00:24:935 (213) - don? dkkdk feels odd for this low tone section
00:27:355 (239) - ^
00:33:161 (297,298,299,300) - same as 00:15:465 -
01:37:240 (66) - kinda has no sound to it, maybe delete? so you isolate the (kkkk)
01:59:428 (285,286,287,288) - no clear 1/6 here
02:37:032 (128,129,130,131) - Same as the 1/6 (kkkd)
03:21:134 (18,19,20,21,22) - wouldn't this be better as ddddk? i think dkdkd kinda breaks the flow
03:54:244 - you can add a note here
05:13:461 (83,91) - how about making these 2 dons to make the pattern more interesting?

check out if i missed something in repeated sections

ok and on a serious note: things like 01:35:235 (46) - 01:39:659 (92) - throw me off a lot if i am honest, i see no point on putting finisher at the end of patterns unless it's a very representative sound and in this case it is not, it sounds exactly like the rest >_>
bleep bloop i should stop modding maps at 4:30 am lmao

anyway, that was about it
nyathil
sign me the FUCK up 👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀 gore shit goRe sHit👌 thats ✔ some gore👌👌shit right👌👌th 👌 ere👌👌👌 right✔there ✔✔if i do ƽaү so my self 💯 i say so 💯 thats what im talking about right there right there (chorus: ʳᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ) mMMMMᎷМ💯 👌👌 👌НO0Оଠ0OOᵒOОଠଠOoooᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒ👌 👌👌 👌 💯 👌 👀 👀 👀 👌👌gore shit im rddy for thheeee rreturn of grummd
Akiyama Mizuki
as promised

aeonnzr's oni
00:29:290 (84,89) - i personally don't understand why here are finishers, this part doesn't have much emphasis
00:31:018 - mind adding a note here? fits much better
00:33:990 (1) - same as 2 lines above
00:55:419 (1) - here, really needs finisher
02:06:272 (62) - u wot
03:10:903 (38) - delete this. there's emphasis in the song on 03:10:765 (37) - and this note makes emphasis none. it doesn't follow the song very well. add notes at 03:11:041 - and 03:11:110 - . it seems to follow drum much better
03:19:198 (1) - finisher here
04:29:981 (1) - ^
06:16:156 (146) - kind of hard-to-hit pattern
please reconsider entire usage of finishers. it seems pretty random. there are finishers when there's no emphasis in the song and there are normal notes when there's emphasis in the song.

fatal oni
00:05:649 (28) - put k here, there's k when there's identical sound like 00:05:096 (23,27,32,36) -
00:13:115 (97,98,99,100,101,102,103) - i guess kkkkkkd fits better for the music
00:23:345 (199) - same as the first line
00:30:811 (271,272,273,274,275,276,277) - same as the second line
02:48:644 (73) - k fits better
05:51:548 (89,90,91,92,93,94,95) - -----------------^
06:09:244 (102,103,104,105,106,107,108) - ^
nothing much
Renumi
cool map so here have a star~
Loctav

Raiden wrote:

derping like hell

[>fatal oni<]
general: remove soft hitsounds pls thanks normal default tyty oops ok

missed some spots where you could add notes such as 00:03:230 - and 00:05:442 - etc. i don't think quints increase the density that much in fact you already have them at 00:09:520 - which is quite early if you ask me, why not in all spots? :3 I rather keep it tame at the beginning, especially when we have multiple music layers overlapping. The quintruplets are only on places where the drum is very significantly outstanding. Your suggestion would add them on places where the drum is not as dominating
00:14:774 (119) - kat? kinda snare like 120t breaks transistion to upcoming patterns
00:15:465 (124,125,126,127) - i'd definetely say (kkkd) as the blender goes nuts (high tone) at first but then at 00:15:603 - there is a drum hit contradicts with the actual kdkdk upcoming, while putting dkdkd is not working out either, considering that the drums are snaredrumsnaredrumsnaredrum and not drumsnardrumsnaredrumsnare
00:24:935 (213) - don? dkkdk feels odd for this low tone section ok
00:27:355 (239) - ^ wrong timestamp, but okay ;D
00:33:161 (297,298,299,300) - same as 00:15:465 - see above
01:37:240 (66) - kinda has no sound to it, maybe delete? so you isolate the (kkkk) nice find.
01:59:428 (285,286,287,288) - no clear 1/6 here very clear to me, the drums are going 1/8 actually in the background. try to remove the notes and listen again.
02:37:032 (128,129,130,131) - Same as the 1/6 (kkkd)
03:21:134 (18,19,20,21,22) - wouldn't this be better as ddddk? i think dkdkd kinda breaks the flow the strain from turning to ddd k to ddddk and then right away ddk is very high. I prefer the variety here.
03:54:244 - you can add a note here give people a break! they are about to hit a 1/6!
05:13:461 (83,91) - how about making these 2 dons to make the pattern more interesting? it is an interesting endurance pattern, I would say.

check out if i missed something in repeated sections

ok and on a serious note: things like 01:35:235 (46) - 01:39:659 (92) - throw me off a lot if i am honest, i see no point on putting finisher at the end of patterns unless it's a very representative sound and in this case it is not, it sounds exactly like the rest >_> yeah, that's some remnant of an introduction to the finisher heavy part. this happens actually consistently on 02:41:594 -, so I forgot to remove it from the other sections, as it seems.

bbj0920 wrote:

fatal oni
00:05:649 (28) - put k here, there's k when there's identical sound like 00:05:096 (23,27,32,36) - a kat would break the flow, because going kkk where the third kat is a downbeat and the next pattern starts with ddk, it will totally throw you off. The only reason why 00:05:096 - is a kat is to conclude the d d d d d pattern and lead over to a new one.
00:13:115 (97,98,99,100,101,102,103) - i guess kkkkkkd fits better for the music the pitch goes upwards... ? why would I put kkkkkkd instead? and the transisiton from dddddk to a sped-up ddddddddk is way more smooth
00:23:345 (199) - same as the first line still disagreeing
00:30:811 (271,272,273,274,275,276,277) - same as the second line still disagreeing
02:48:644 (73) - k fits better why so?
05:51:548 (89,90,91,92,93,94,95) - -----------------^ ----------^
06:09:244 (102,103,104,105,106,107,108) - ^ ^
Thanks for your mods!

@grumd http://puu.sh/m4Qmp/f27d7411c9.osu
Topic Starter
grumd
"Makyu"
I took my time to mod this, and didn't find anything good at all, I hope this can help you.

[General]
  1. Inconsistency in Tags
    {aeonnzr's oni} : breakcore comfywolf loctav semantics benzo chronicles
    {aEoNNzR's Taiko Oni} : breakcore ComfyWolf Loctav Semantics Benzo Chronicles
    {extra} : breakcore comfywolf aeonnzr loctav semantics benzo chronicles
    {fatal oni} : breakcore comfywolf loctav semantics benzo chronicles
    {insane} : breakcore comfywolf aeonnzr loctav semantics benzo chronicles
    {Remember} : breakcore ComfyWolf Loctav Semantics Benzo Chronicles
  2. Timing is inconsistent
^ this should be fixed now


[extra]

General

  1. Why don't you call this Extra instead of extra?
    it fits the song title
  2. lol do you even bookmark bro?[/b]
    kek

Playability

  1. I was waiting a note here 00:08:138 - there is an audible beat there, why did you choose not to add a circle there?
    it's not as loud as the beats around it
  2. what do you think about moving this note 00:56:249 (5) - clores to previous (4) slider tail? instead of his head, this way the movement feels more natural with the next circle
    no
  3. I thing you should move 00:57:631 (1,2) - circle (2) closer to slider (1), I know this is one of the "red" parts of the song, but this isn't kiai time, and I think this can be a bit confusing, not much for pro players
    this is totally okay and intentional
  4. isnt this triplet 00:59:152 (4,5,6) - out of context? I think this triplet can be somewhere else, stacked is really confusing to play imo, also, the spacing with (6) is complete unpredictable, this is a big turn off >.<
    this pattern is completely usual, a lot of maps have it, it's easily playable
  5. What do you think about moving this note 01:30:811 (1) - here? with a better blanket of course, I think this way flows better
    i dont like blankets and my pattern is alright

Presentation

  1. imo moving this triplet 00:09:797 (5,6,7) - here: x:408 y:204 looks better
    ye
  2. Why dont you made this following notes 00:55:419 (1,3) - 00:56:387 (6,4) - 01:42:147 (3,1) - a blanket? playabiliti doesn't change at all and looks better
    because i dont want a blanket here
  3. tbh I dont like the way this two notes look 01:59:843 (3,4) - , what do you thing about this?, this can change a bit the way you want that part to flow, but I think its better and playable
    this was totally intentional, this is my usual pattern that i'm often using, i like it
  4. Making this slider 02:34:405 (9) - with this rotate settigs, I thinks looks better
    hm nope
  5. I don't like this, but I dont have any sugestions. 03:32:055 (5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - I think it looks a bit ugly.
    this pattern makes total sense and looks good to me
  6. make this slider 03:45:189 (7) - curvy? it looks better because of the previous stream concavity
    yes, good one, changed it and the whole pattern afterwards
  7. You can improve the way this 04:43:253 (1,2,3) - three sliders looks, example, if you do this, perhaps you want to change the position of this two notes 04:44:014 (4,5) -
    lmao in my map they form a perfect triangle, your screenshotted pattern is just odd
  8. What do you think about changing this 05:08:553 (8) - to make it look like a blanket? like you did with previous patterns before
    would look bad here
  9. I don't like the way this last four notes looks 05:09:590 (12,13,14,1) - , what do you think about this? you can make it look way better, with more time
    i don't like it, i wanted to make this part straight to fit the next stream

Nazi

  1. stack this notes better? 02:59:567 (3,3) -
    it makes no sense, there's a whole second between them, nobody will ever notice this

Combos

  1. I would change some of the combos, but I will not mention it since you are using colors to emphazise the sb and changing any combo will be a pain in the ass
    if your suggestions are worth it, i would change it anyway

Sounds

  1. Everything seems fine

Overall

  1. Pretty well made, there all of this are mere sugestions, the only thing I really see necesary to change is the one I mentioned here: 00:59:152 (4,5,6) other than that, I really enjoyed this map.
    to explain it a bit further, triple with a 1/4 at the end has become a usual pattern used a lot of times everywhere. here it even makes sense to the music because of how first notes (00:59:428 (6,7) - ) sound different and should be separated from the last notes (00:59:567 (8) - ). when playing, you just click the triplet as usual (zxz), then singletap the 1/4 sliders. it's fairly easy and fits the music, that's why i'm not changing it.



[insane]

General

  1. Why don't you call this Insane instead of insane?
  2. You sure have a lot of fun with bookmarks
    i love bookmarks yes

Playability

  1. What about adding a note here? 01:06:410 - in the head of 01:06:479 (1) - it makes feel that section less empty, same here: 01:07:516 -
    well, you're kinda right, but i wanted to make this diff easier than the extra in terms of rhythm too, so i skipped a few notes here and there. it would be really hard to fix this pattern, so i'm just leaving it here as is since it still plays just fine

Presentation

  1. what do you think about changing this 00:32:746 (5,6) - for something like this?
    nah
  2. I think moving this two notes 00:55:834 (3,4) - to make them blankets its a good idea, and it doesn't change the playability at all
    it does change the playability, it ruins the spacing around this slider 00:56:249 (4) - . the pattern here is totally intentional and has a reason behind it, so i'm not changing it for a blanket (you can notice how here 00:55:834 (3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - every single jump is placed on a hard bass note. that's why all this shit is placed like that, that's why no blanket)
  3. I think you can improve this pattern 01:30:811 (1,2,3,4) - for something like this, looks way better
    you're totally right. i didn't want to make big jumps here, but well, i think it will be okay
  4. I was expecting this 01:37:861 (4,5) - to be blanket when played the map for the first time
    i'm not a fan of blankets because they most of the time ruin the spacing that i want to add
  5. What do you think about this? here: 01:53:207 (3,4) - what I did was, using a copy from slider (4) I used Ctrl+H and J then rotate it -45° and blanked it with 01:53:069 (2) -
    i changed this one, but no blanket, sorry. and i don't think you'll like my fix
  6. What do you thing about this? here:05:16:848 (3,4) - , perhaps if you like this you will have to modify the next pattern a bit to make the spacing better and readable
    totally not

Nazi

  1. Stack this notes better? 03:46:156 (2,3) - unstacked for readability 03:50:857 (4,4) - fixed 06:12:562 (4,2) - unstacked for readability
  2. You can improve this blanket 06:13:668 (4,2) - idk i moved the slider starts by 1 pixels? this blanket is alright anyway

Combos

  1. I will say the same here as extra, some combos can be improven but yeah...

Sounds

  1. Everything seems fine

Overall

  1. This is really hardcore for an Insane player at some points, I got some problems but nothing to worry, I really liked, only minor changes about Presentation, nothing really important, good job.

Huh, that took me a lot of time to finish, I started fixing this mod two times already :p
Thanks for the mod, ma frend, it was an interesting view. I had to deny most of visual suggestions because I don't like to use too much blankets and most of them would ruin the spacing I wanted to make. But still you had some interesting points that helped me to improve the map. Thanks.
Topic Starter
grumd
"bbj0920"
aeonnzr's oni
00:29:290 (84,89) - i personally don't understand why here are finishers, this part doesn't have much emphasis
one of them is not a finisher, removed the other one, seems legit
00:31:018 - mind adding a note here? fits much better
it indeed fits better. added a kd after this triplet in all similar places in the song
00:33:990 (1) - same as 2 lines above
yep fixed
00:55:419 (1) - here, really needs finisher
added
02:06:272 (62) - u wot
lmao best
03:10:903 (38) - delete this. there's emphasis in the song on 03:10:765 (37) - and this note makes emphasis none. it doesn't follow the song very well. add notes at 03:11:041 - and 03:11:110 - . it seems to follow drum much better
yeah that's what i was thinking too
03:19:198 (1) - finisher here
04:29:981 (1) - ^
yeah that works
06:16:156 (146) - kind of hard-to-hit pattern
changed kkD to kkk, the song ending is so soft and quiet that i don't even feel it needs a finisher here
please reconsider entire usage of finishers. it seems pretty random. there are finishers when there's no emphasis in the song and there are normal notes when there's emphasis in the song.
i've changed a lot of finishers, they were truly random, i didn't notice this earlier
I applied some fixes for aEoNNzR, since he's on holidays and not online for 5 last days and he doesn't reply to my PMs. We have the latest version saved anyway, so if he wants to revert something later, it's easy to fix.

Thanks for the mod, bbj!
Yuzeyun
howdy! grumd asked me for a testplay on the fatal oni - I liked it, so I'm here to give some suggestions on it. (although probably leaning more on nitpicking haha)

[fatal oni]
00:05:788 (29,30,31,33,34,35) - The end of both triplets don't end with a don; while almost every other place where kick is the most dominant percussion does. I recommend ddd on both of them, as you seem to use dons on hihats.
00:08:553 (52) - A don will make that kick stand out as well.
00:20:304 (171) - Same applies here.
00:23:622 (202) - And here. Also, 00:23:898 (204,205,206) - is 3× don, although the "drumming"
00:21:894 - Missed note?
01:17:401 (44,45,46) - End with kkd rather than kdk ? This sequence ends with SSD (S = snare, D = drum).
01:37:447 (69) - Change to don here ? It sounds more like SSSK on the 1/6 (same notation, K being the kick of the break)
01:41:249 - Missed ?
01:55:143 (244) - Pretty sure it's a snare here. Change to kat?
01:59:428 (284,285,286,287) - This sounds more like it needs a 1/4 kkk rather than a 1/6 sequence. (I don't really think it's 1/8 either, I've listened several times to this particular part.)
02:23:484 (50) - Maybe change that to don? The kkkkd following it will have more impact.
02:27:355 (32,33,34,36,37,38) - Same as 00:05:788 (29,30,31,33,34,35) -
02:42:562 (8) - It's got a kick, so you might want to change as don. // Same goes at 03:00:258 (8) -
02:53:414 - Missed ?
03:00:949 (13) - Missed the snare?
03:04:820 (51) - ^
03:29:567 (105) - Don ? Almost every other "alone kick" around that section is a don.
03:46:710 (281) - ^


I will get around the other oni after having looked at it. Have some stars!
Loctav

_Gezo_ wrote:

howdy! grumd asked me for a testplay on the fatal oni - I liked it, so I'm here to give some suggestions on it. (although probably leaning more on nitpicking haha)

[fatal oni]
00:05:788 (29,30,31,33,34,35) - The end of both triplets don't end with a don; while almost every other place where kick is the most dominant percussion does. I recommend ddd on both of them, as you seem to use dons on hihats. ok
00:08:553 (52) - A don will make that kick stand out as well. ok
00:20:304 (171) - Same applies here. ok
00:23:622 (202) - And here. Also, 00:23:898 (204,205,206) - is 3× don, although the "drumming" these are already dons? I am not sure what you suggested here, tbh
00:21:894 - Missed note? I wanted to not row up triplets to keep the beginning section calm.
01:17:401 (44,45,46) - End with kkd rather than kdk ? This sequence ends with SSD (S = snare, D = drum). ok
01:37:447 (69) - Change to don here ? It sounds more like SSSK on the 1/6 (same notation, K being the kick of the break) I think the transistion to the upcoming ddd is better with a kkkk here.
01:41:249 - Missed ? I dont want to place more than triplets right after some 1/4->1/6 stream
01:55:143 (244) - Pretty sure it's a snare here. Change to kat? it may be, but the stanza starts over here, so I leading over to the new pattern with this particular don
01:59:428 (284,285,286,287) - This sounds more like it needs a 1/4 kkk rather than a 1/6 sequence. (I don't really think it's 1/8 either, I've listened several times to this particular part.) mmmh.. okay, this seems alright.
02:23:484 (50) - Maybe change that to don? The kkkkd following it will have more impact. ok
02:27:355 (32,33,34,36,37,38) - Same as 00:05:788 (29,30,31,33,34,35) - ok
02:42:562 (8) - It's got a kick, so you might want to change as don. // Same goes at 03:00:258 (8) - putting 4 dons in a row is a rather unflowing condition. The alteration might be minor in the music, but I think it represents the music movement better.
02:53:414 - Missed ? yeah
03:00:949 (13) - Missed the snare? ok
03:04:820 (51) - ^ I want to stick to only big Dons in this section, to not make it even more confusing than it already is.
03:29:567 (105) - Don ? Almost every other "alone kick" around that section is a don. ok
03:46:710 (281) - ^ to stress the downbeat on 03:46:848 (282) - better, I would keep that as a kat.


I will get around the other oni after having looked at it. Have some stars!
thank you!

@grumd http://puu.sh/marG4/2039258a0a.osu
Topic Starter
grumd
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tasuke912
Hello there.

[ aeonnzr's oni]
  1. hitsound normal please thanks.
  2. disable widescreen support / custom colours
  3. 00:08:760 - how about putting 1/4 triplet here?
  4. 01:13:046 (133) - I'd recommend deleting this note (other methods: removing finisher, moving to 2/4 tick left, etc.) Actually such patterns are allowed, but it's too hard for hitting in high bpm song.
  5. 01:48:368 (15,16,17) - ^
  6. 02:23:622 (1,1,1,1,1) - kkkkd, since both 1/2th and 3/4th sound are the same pitch?
  7. 02:41:525 (51,1) - same as above.
  8. 02:39:382 (34) -, 02:40:488 (41) -, Consider removing finishers, since there are no strong sound here, and these affect the patterns consistency.
  9. 03:16:986 (93) - breakbeats stop at (92), so remove it? just suggestion.
  10. 04:47:608 (139,140) -, 05:23:000 (42,43) -, same
  11. 05:10:903 (110,111,112,113,114,115) - kkdkkdd for better consistency with 05:19:474 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) -?
  12. 05:40:626 (16,17) - k-D. consider moving the position of the finishers, since cymbal sounds at (17).
[ fatal oni]
  1. disable widescreen support / custom colours
  2. 00:05:649 (28) - k, since nearly same pitch sound as (27,36,40). It also fit to patterns flow well in my opinion.
  3. 00:23:345 (199) - ^
  4. in first kiai, ddkdk are too many, it may affect to patterns bias. I'd like to suggest some other patterns in order to improve the balance.
    1. 01:13:530 (3,4,5,6,7) - dkddk, it would also fit to sound and flow well, and be good for better consistency with 00:55:834 (5,6,7) - imo. (d-d-k->dkddk-)
    2. 01:19:889 (71,72,73,74,75) - kkd-k- / kkddk / etc.
    3. 01:20:995 (83,84,85,86,87) - ddddk? it would be patterned well with next kkkkd pattern imo. (also 01:21:410 (88,89,90) - change to dkd? just suggestion)
  5. 02:06:202 (1) - Such patterns are rankable, but too hard for hitting in high bpm song;; so I'd recommend removing finisher pr deleting prev note for playing more naturally.
  6. 02:06:617 (2) - - ~ 02:23:207 (48) -, why not follow the breakbeats sound in this part? I think can do while keeping easily patterns. just suggestion
  7. 02:46:018 (45) -, 02:50:442 (93) -, etc. see above.
  8. 03:58:875 -, 04:16:571 - add kat to follow the sound and avoid be monotone? (also 04:15:602 (58,59) -, kk-kk-?)
  9. 04:07:723 -, 04:20:995 - ^
That's all. Great diffs!
You may call me back when you are done. :3
Good luck. :)
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