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Omg, you're so yellow D:Saturos-fangirl wrote:
Map has been updated
Classic Remmy Mod
This means that I will be going by the older, stricter standards of mapping. Any comments I make may not be rankability issues, but rather tips and suggestions to making your map to be of better quality. You may not agree with all of them, but that's okay! Give or take a few of them and try it, you might be surprised~
Easy:
This is actually a very solid Easy difficulty. The only suggestions I would really make would be to raise the circle size a bit, and fix the distance between notes so it's not so cluttered after the resize. (when watching the auto play, it looked like a medium in size.) EDIT: actually the clutter isnt that bad with 1.0x distance snap.
Normal:
aaaaaaaaaaaahhh small notes, no thank you!
The circle size you had in Easy works best here. Other than that this is very fun
SG's Normal:
Very nice build up to the chorus! No problems here.]
Taiko Normal:
Never done a taiko mod, but here goes.
Bit slow, but great for a beginner to taiko!
CDFA is Hard:
Great on hitsounds. The large jumps during the chorus seem unnecessary though, but they are missing near the end? I recommend keeping one or the other.
Abomination:
Oh boy. I really hope this isnt like Joker, you remember my reaction to that.
Okay this isn't as bad as I thought. First thing that popped out to me was the lack of hitsounds (outside of the low pop) during the beginning. Some soft whistles or claps would go nicely in there with the rhythm you have.
02:04:954 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - I see what you were trying to do there, but by 8,9,10 it started to get ugly.
Try keeping with the "steps" and avoid going vertical, as it became hard to follow
03:39:072 (1,2,3) - While this looks nice in the editor, in play mode the stack looks off balance. I recommend moving this stack just below the previous notes.
While this isnt my favorite map of yours (HOTT comes to mind), its very nicely done, and I can mostly follow insane, aside from the notes i made above.
EDIT: whoops missed a difficulty, please hold.
EDIT2: yea, Taiko Oni looks fine to me
This means that I will be going by the older, stricter standards of mapping. Any comments I make may not be rankability issues, but rather tips and suggestions to making your map to be of better quality. You may not agree with all of them, but that's okay! Give or take a few of them and try it, you might be surprised~
Easy:
This is actually a very solid Easy difficulty. The only suggestions I would really make would be to raise the circle size a bit, and fix the distance between notes so it's not so cluttered after the resize. (when watching the auto play, it looked like a medium in size.) EDIT: actually the clutter isnt that bad with 1.0x distance snap.
Normal:
aaaaaaaaaaaahhh small notes, no thank you!
The circle size you had in Easy works best here. Other than that this is very funSG's Normal:
Very nice build up to the chorus! No problems here.]
Taiko Normal:
Never done a taiko mod, but here goes.
Bit slow, but great for a beginner to taiko!
CDFA is Hard:
Great on hitsounds. The large jumps during the chorus seem unnecessary though, but they are missing near the end? I recommend keeping one or the other.
Abomination:
Oh boy. I really hope this isnt like Joker, you remember my reaction to that.
Okay this isn't as bad as I thought. First thing that popped out to me was the lack of hitsounds (outside of the low pop) during the beginning. Some soft whistles or claps would go nicely in there with the rhythm you have.
02:04:954 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - I see what you were trying to do there, but by 8,9,10 it started to get ugly.
Try keeping with the "steps" and avoid going vertical, as it became hard to follow03:39:072 (1,2,3) - While this looks nice in the editor, in play mode the stack looks off balance
. I recommend moving this stack just below the previous notes. While this isnt my favorite map of yours (HOTT comes to mind), its very nicely done, and I can mostly follow insane, aside from the notes i made above.
EDIT: whoops missed a difficulty, please hold.
EDIT2: yea, Taiko Oni looks fine to me
General
Your diff has a different preview time (4ms ahead).
CDFA's Hard
Have fun with fixing! /o/
EDIT: consider adding an extra kiai time in the very end (check SG's Normal). Also I'm sure I skipped some details, such as cool shapes and incorrect NC placement.
- Watch the tags! They must be the same all over the diffs.
- 00:10:501 (3) - how is this easy? You shouldn't do such things in the very beginning, better replace it with something. I suggest starting a short repeating slider at 00:10:241:
- 00:47:783 (3) - soft clap sounds strange, I'd still use S:C1
- 00:48:826 (2,3,4,1) - I really dislike the way these things look together, so here's my suggestion: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/423277 (mind also the timeline)
- 00:52:215 (2) - I'd start slider here (either the long slider or a short one with a repeat)
- 00:53:258 (3,4,5) - I feel there's something wrong, maybe because I change my direction after every slider!
- 00:55:865 (1) - <3
- 01:00:558 (2) - the same as with 00:52:215 (2)
- 01:04:208 (6) - HAHAHAHA. But seriously, it looks a bit ugly because its bottom half looks bigger than the top one (even though the whole slider is symmetrical and alright). I also hope people will pay attention to sliderticks
- 01:07:076 (1,3) - ewww, these claps sound really bad. Better remove them and add to 01:07:597 (2,4) instead
- 01:23:501 (3) - move it up and left while keeping spacing to prevent it from being overlapped by (2)
- 01:26:630 (2,3) - http://puu.sh/12cOS?
- 01:38:362 (1,2,3) - needs more curveness! http://puu.sh/12cPs
- 01:42:012 (6) - move it a little down to get some distance between the ends of (6) and (5)
- 01:49:312 (2,3,4,1) - okay, so I see a copypasted part of kiai and tell the same thing as for 00:48:826 (2,3,4,1)
- 02:04:954 - add a note?
- 02:05:215 (1,2) - looks poor. Change it? Also, remove finish from the beginning of (2)
- 02:32:590 (2) - oh god, these waypoints. Unfortunately, it's unsymmetrical so you better waste some time and try to fix
- 02:45:104 (1) - keep it if you want, but I also don't like its shape
- 02:49:015 (4,5) - but I remember they were farther apart!
- 02:50:579 (1) - one grid left (lol), and it'll be right in center
- 03:01:008 (3) - remove clap from the beginning, it sounds off along with the vocals. Try putting a soft whistle instead
- 03:05:179 (1) - it's hard to catch after the spinner, mostly because it's on the red tick. I don't have any ideas on how to change it, to be honest
- 03:10:133 (1) - add finish
- 03:39:593 (1) - I would end it at 03:43:504 to get rid of two extra seconds of spin
- 00:26:144 (2) - your custom clap sounds a bit strange here
- 00:34:487 (2) - eh? Placing the slider right under an existing one? I mean, it deceives a player, even though it has a different colour, so consider moving it somewhere else
- 00:48:305 (2,3) - remove clap from a note and add it to the slider's beginning, it sounds much better
- 00:50:130 (7) - no, you don't need a soft clap here. If you want, you can change claps on 00:48:565 (3,5) to the soft ones
- 01:01:080 (6,7) - please no, the previous stack contained 1/2 notes and this one contains 1/1s, so it can be a bit hard to follow
- 01:06:555 (2) - better remove clap from its end and add it to the repeat
- 01:08:119 (4) - remove clap and add it to 01:07:597 (3,5) (also, remove finishes from them)
- 01:44:619 (4) - move its end with 4 on it one grid right to make a better beat blanket
- 01:46:704 (1) - hell, it's 1.8x far from the previous slider! Consider moving closer, there's no need for a jump
- 01:50:615 (7) - remove finish, add clap, this is how you follow the music
- 02:01:565 (7,8) - the same as for 01:01:080 (6,7) (maybe I'm overreacting, but this is the only stack with 1/1 notes around)
- 02:15:904 - I'd add a note
- 02:29:722 (2) - stack it
- 02:30:504 (4) - move central waypoints one grid left and make it a better beat blanket (not perfect, though)
- 02:32:590 (1) - <3
- 02:44:322 (3,4,5,1) - what a funny thing
- 03:14:043 (4,5) - enough straight lines, make some curve: http://puu.sh/12d5V
- 03:39:593 (1) - I would end it at 03:43:504 to get rid of two extra seconds of spin
Your diff has a different preview time (4ms ahead).
- 00:34:748 (3) - add whistle to the beginning
- 00:38:137 (2) - I'd add an extra waypoint near the end to make a very tiny curve: http://puu.sh/12d90 (yep, there is a difference)
- 01:27:672 (4) - mind adding a NC?
- 01:50:094 (8,10) - add something (clap, for example) to these notes, like you did before to follow guitar?
- 03:30:990 (1) - this kiai seems to be a gooooood idea!
CDFA's Hard
- 00:57:951 (5,6,7,8,9) - I dislike this shape and suggest this one
- 01:00:558 (3) - bend it to the left and you'll get some kind of "Krisom's cross"
- 01:05:903 (4,5) - http://puu.sh/12dfp?
- 01:33:669 (5) - I recommend you to move it down and right (keep the spacing) to have a nice slider pattern with the same distance between all the elements of it (except for 3 and 5, lol). Don't mind the jump you get after (01:34:190 (1)), it may be even better to play
- 01:45:662 (6,7) - and again, I prefer to have them curvy because they are surrounded by the curvy sliders: http://puu.sh/12dgB
- 01:58:437 (5,6,7,8,9) - what I said before
- 02:05:215 (2) - man, it looks ugly and disbalanced; its top half is bigger than the bottom one
- 02:10:690 (2,3) - well, you know what I'd like to add here (it starts from cur and ends with ve)
- 02:20:076 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - please, keep the same distance between the sliders in this pattern, and also align it by the center
- 02:52:665 (5,6,7,8,9) - oh god, this stream again (ok, not mentioning anymore)
- 02:58:922 (1) - remove finish from the beginning (and from the end too, if possible)
- 03:18:475 (1) - add finish to beginning?
- 03:31:250 (1) -
damn, this thing is 8 seconds long!it's too late to ask you map through it
- 00:36:833 (3,4,5,6) - (personal opinion) it flows like a river of bricks, I'd never add it to my maps
- 00:33:965 (2,4,6,1) - please please please please don't use sliders without any sign of curve that often, it looks really boring
- 00:52:476 (5,6,7,8) - ^^^^ (also, don't you have anything more interesting than pasting this cross over and over~)
- 00:50:390 (1) - I would make it a better semi-circle (tiny visual fix)
- 01:08:640 (4) - add clap here
- 01:09:162 (1) - remove clap and add soft whistle instead
- 01:34:190 (1) - add finish to the beginning?
- 01:44:619 (10) - god, but this is totally unsymmetrical! I'd really like to see it fixed
- 01:52:962 (3,4) - make them curvy, just because of 01:50:876 (1,2): http://puu.sh/12dqC
- 01:55:569 (1,2,3,4,5) - mind changing the spacing here back to 1.0?
- 01:59:219 (1) - I really don't like how it overlaps itself near the end. Try this way? (just move most of the waypoints farther from the center, don't forget to copy the result and paste it right after)
- 02:10:690 (4) - new combo?
- 02:28:419 (1) - add finish to the beginning?
- 02:46:929 (1,1,5,1) - add finish?
- 03:01:790 (4) - well, you really need to add NC here, when kiai time ends
- 03:14:043 (5,6,7) - isn't it way too spaced out? Consider compressing this pattern and the next similar one
- 03:29:817 - add a note to follow the music
- 03:33:075 (2) - add NC here and remove it from 03:32:815 (1)
Have fun with fixing! /o/
EDIT: consider adding an extra kiai time in the very end (check SG's Normal). Also I'm sure I skipped some details, such as cool shapes and incorrect NC placement.
Whoops how did i not see that. SFG, this comment i recommend checking outTicClick wrote:
00:53:258 (3,4,5) - I feel there's something wrong, maybe because I change my direction after every slider!
01:04:208 (6) - HAHAHAHA. But seriously, it looks a bit ugly because its bottom half looks bigger than the top one (even though the whole slider is symmetrical and alright). I also hope people will pay attention to sliderticksYea, after a second look, its slightly weird but it works. I think it'll be fine, it appears one way.
RemmyX25 wrote:
SG's Normal:
Very nice build up to the chorus! No problems here.] Thank you.
Sigh. Make sure all the stuff is consistent after updating.TicClick wrote:
SG's Normal
Your diff has a different preview time (4ms ahead). Fixed.Well, this diff is slider-based, so there's nothing much I can complain about.
- 00:34:748 (3) - add whistle to the beginning Changed the hitsounding in this pattern, I guess it's okay now.
- 00:38:137 (2) - I'd add an extra waypoint near the end to make a very tiny curve: http://puu.sh/12d90 (yep, there is a difference) Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm fine with how it is now.
- 01:27:672 (4) - mind adding a NC? Seems legit.
- 01:50:094 (8,10) - add something (clap, for example) to these notes, like you did before to follow guitar? Okay.
- 03:30:990 (1) - this kiai seems to be a gooooood idea! It definitely is.
Topic Starter
You and your curves TicClick, you and your curves...if I wanted my map to be curvy I would have made it a ladymap 
Hey, I was trying to drag you outta 2009!
After an irc mod of inconsistent tags/source/preview point and after fixing some hidden sliders, consider this bubbled.
For the next modder: catmull shapes are okay and the band's name is correct even if it isnt capitalized (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-ha for details).
For the next modder: catmull shapes are okay and the band's name is correct even if it isnt capitalized (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-ha for details).
I still owe you one, SFG. So here we go
Well, overall I am aware that this is an oldstyle map and that this is already 2 years old. I'll try to keep this in my mind.
[Easy]
01:43:315 (1,2) - I dislike it's shape very much. Try this: http://puu.sh/13WIA
00:54:301 (5,6) - this should be spaced like 01:02:644 (4,5) -
02:57:358 (4,5) - this should be spaced like 02:49:015 (4,5) -
03:05:701 (3,4) - ^
03:24:472 (3) - add NC or remove NC on 03:21:083 (1) -
[Normal]
01:35:494 (4) - I consider this as difficult to read. Try to unstack it.
02:37:804 (3,4,5) - snap (4) and (5) diagonally with Ctrl/Shift-snap 1.0x. It looks a bit uneven to me (nazi)
[SG's Normal]
00:42:048 (8) - move NC here, since the musical unit begins here.
03:35:161 (1) - so beautiful <3
[CDFA is Hard]
uh, this diff name XD such a double-meaning (lol)
00:57:951 (5,6,7,8,9) - uhoh, increased spacing x__x I would reduce the spacing instead to 0.8x This plays pretty weird and inappropiately hard else
01:58:437 (5,6,7,8,9) - ^
02:52:665 (5,6,7,8,9) - ^ (lol)
03:09:351 (3,4,5,6,7) - ^
[Abomination]
God, this spacing, this jumps. Well, okay. x__x At least it's not as generic, lol. I can't befriend myself with this kind of difficulty. Well, let's keep neutral.
For my opinion, this spacing is too harsh for this kind of song and doesnt fit. But well, this could be just me.
00:33:705 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this is too confusing for me. If you could rearrange them (like swapping their order to push) it would increase the flow and readability a LOT.
03:38:811 (9,1,2,3) - srsly, this is a too harsh antijump now. The whole diff is like "loljumpjumpjump" and suddenly, THIS. Increase spacing.
[Taiko Normal]
Where is the Muzukashii? Well, okay. I don't mind it. COnsider calling it "Futsuu" and remove the "Taiko" out of the diff name. Instead, add "taiko" to the tags.
00:25:362 (1) - remove finish. There is no finish sound.
00:37:876 (2) - ^
00:46:219 (1) - ^
01:12:551 (3) - remove note. This sounds weird and you totally don't do the punctuation the music does here.
01:21:676 (1) - remove finish.
01:30:019 (1) - ^
01:46:704 (5) - small don, please. Keep consistency.
[Taiko Oni]
OD6, LD5!
Rest seems fine. But please overthink the useage of your finishers on the kiai time. I personally dislike it.
Consider renaming it to name it "Taiko Hard" or "Muzukashii" (I prefer latter), since it's not hard enough to be Oni and because since we have the icons, there is no need to name something "Taiko blabla" anymore.
Call me back when done.
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EDIT: lolol trollinsane, go hate me! Keep in mind, that this is an oldstyle beatmap.
(I will sowhat of regret this.)
2 years after submission:
Blarg~
Well, overall I am aware that this is an oldstyle map and that this is already 2 years old. I'll try to keep this in my mind.
[Easy]
01:43:315 (1,2) - I dislike it's shape very much. Try this: http://puu.sh/13WIA
00:54:301 (5,6) - this should be spaced like 01:02:644 (4,5) -
02:57:358 (4,5) - this should be spaced like 02:49:015 (4,5) -
03:05:701 (3,4) - ^
03:24:472 (3) - add NC or remove NC on 03:21:083 (1) -
[Normal]
01:35:494 (4) - I consider this as difficult to read. Try to unstack it.
02:37:804 (3,4,5) - snap (4) and (5) diagonally with Ctrl/Shift-snap 1.0x. It looks a bit uneven to me (nazi)
[SG's Normal]
00:42:048 (8) - move NC here, since the musical unit begins here.
03:35:161 (1) - so beautiful <3
[CDFA is Hard]
uh, this diff name XD such a double-meaning (lol)
00:57:951 (5,6,7,8,9) - uhoh, increased spacing x__x I would reduce the spacing instead to 0.8x This plays pretty weird and inappropiately hard else
01:58:437 (5,6,7,8,9) - ^
02:52:665 (5,6,7,8,9) - ^ (lol)
03:09:351 (3,4,5,6,7) - ^
[Abomination]
God, this spacing, this jumps. Well, okay. x__x At least it's not as generic, lol. I can't befriend myself with this kind of difficulty. Well, let's keep neutral.
For my opinion, this spacing is too harsh for this kind of song and doesnt fit. But well, this could be just me.
00:33:705 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this is too confusing for me. If you could rearrange them (like swapping their order to push) it would increase the flow and readability a LOT.
03:38:811 (9,1,2,3) - srsly, this is a too harsh antijump now. The whole diff is like "loljumpjumpjump" and suddenly, THIS. Increase spacing.
[Taiko Normal]
Where is the Muzukashii? Well, okay. I don't mind it. COnsider calling it "Futsuu" and remove the "Taiko" out of the diff name. Instead, add "taiko" to the tags.
00:25:362 (1) - remove finish. There is no finish sound.
00:37:876 (2) - ^
00:46:219 (1) - ^
01:12:551 (3) - remove note. This sounds weird and you totally don't do the punctuation the music does here.
01:21:676 (1) - remove finish.
01:30:019 (1) - ^
01:46:704 (5) - small don, please. Keep consistency.
[Taiko Oni]
OD6, LD5!
Rest seems fine. But please overthink the useage of your finishers on the kiai time. I personally dislike it.
Consider renaming it to name it "Taiko Hard" or "Muzukashii" (I prefer latter), since it's not hard enough to be Oni and because since we have the icons, there is no need to name something "Taiko blabla" anymore.
Call me back when done.
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EDIT: lolol trollinsane, go hate me! Keep in mind, that this is an oldstyle beatmap.
(I will sowhat of regret this.)
2 years after submission:
Blarg~
congrats~
Oh wow.
CONGRATULATION SFG ♥♥
CONGRATULATION SFG ♥♥
yay congrats <3
Wow, that insane map. Congrats!
vizzy wrote:
Congrats~
yay! congrats
a-ha HACHI BA
Topic Starter
Why do I get the feeling that no one actually bothered reading what I said as to why I made the Abomination difficulty. I guess I can summarize it very easily.
I do not believe that this map needed a standard difficulty of higher level than Normal. There is nothing wrong with having a mapset that doesn't have a hard or insane map, and it was intended to be for beginner players. After being told for the fourth time that a BAT did not want to bubble/rank my map because it didn't have an insane, I attempted to make an insane that was technically rankable (I refuse to map purely unrankable things) but would be SO BAD that the BAT modding would say "ok I will rank it if you just remove this difficulty called Abomination."
Much to my dismay, no one made that statement and the mapset was ranked with Abomination still in there. It is, however, an example of me intentionally abusing artificial difficulty within the guidelines for ranking out of frustration at the closed-mindedness of the people modding my map, and I would appreciate if people would keep that in mind while judging it...
I do not believe that this map needed a standard difficulty of higher level than Normal. There is nothing wrong with having a mapset that doesn't have a hard or insane map, and it was intended to be for beginner players. After being told for the fourth time that a BAT did not want to bubble/rank my map because it didn't have an insane, I attempted to make an insane that was technically rankable (I refuse to map purely unrankable things) but would be SO BAD that the BAT modding would say "ok I will rank it if you just remove this difficulty called Abomination."
Much to my dismay, no one made that statement and the mapset was ranked with Abomination still in there. It is, however, an example of me intentionally abusing artificial difficulty within the guidelines for ranking out of frustration at the closed-mindedness of the people modding my map, and I would appreciate if people would keep that in mind while judging it...
what about all your other terrible maps, were they deliberately poorly made as well?