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Frostings
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on June 9, 2016 at 9:02:12 PM

Artist: LeaF
Title: Calamity Fortune
Source: BMS
Tags: 東方Project 少女が見た日本の原風景 The Primal Scene of Japan the Girl Saw Touhou sanae kochiya 東風谷 早苗 東方風神録 ~ Mountain of Faith ZUN Remix Optie
BPM: 200
Filesize: 3586kb
Play Time: 02:14
Difficulties Available:
  1. Cataclysm (5.74 stars, 784 notes)
  2. Easy (1.51 stars, 90 notes)
  3. Hard (3.35 stars, 298 notes)
  4. Insane (4.51 stars, 444 notes)
  5. Normal (2.07 stars, 167 notes)
Download: LeaF - Calamity Fortune
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Kibbleru
watagod
Topic Starter
Frostings
when will I ever finish
pkk
wake me up
BicycleRider
Hope this gets ranked, really fun to play!
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Frostings
holy it's done
Topic Starter
Frostings
IT'S DONE !@@!!!!!!!!!
pkk
!
Cheesecake
Hi, from modding queue

[Insane]

00:03:987 (2) - Ctrl+G
00:07:587 (4,5) - Make this blanket by doing this
00:40:887 (1,1) - Ew this overlap
00:57:687 (1,2,1,1,2,1) - Well this is new, I don't think buzz sliders are too hard for 4.5* :roll:


[Cataclysm]

00:10:587 (5,6) - This is really misleading imo, I'd reccomend a good ol' Ctrl+G
00:13:887 (3) - Make this a bit closer to 00:13:287 (1) - so that 00:13:287 (1,2,3) - this whole part is equidistant
00:36:237 (2) - Ctrl+G?
00:51:687 (1) - I'm not sure if these should really be 1/8, all the gaps make it sound really weird as well (this applies for this whole section up to 01:15:387 (8) - )
01:28:587 (8,9,1) - Flow from (9) to (1) doesn't look good, try and see if you can make this part flow clockwise rather than anti-clockwise or however you want to do it so that it flows into 01:28:887 (1) - properly
01:37:887 (9) - NC

Good luck
Topic Starter
Frostings

Cheesecake wrote:

Hi, from modding queue

[Insane]

00:03:987 (2) - Ctrl+G I do fancy all my sliders pointing upwards :(
00:07:587 (4,5) - Make this blanket by doing this I'll make it more ambiguous whether it's supposed to be a blanket or not ;)
00:40:887 (1,1) - Ew this overlap Unnoticeable ;d
00:57:687 (1,2,1,1,2,1) - Well this is new, I don't think buzz sliders are too hard for 4.5* :roll: I like long sliders :oops:


[Cataclysm]

00:10:587 (5,6) - This is really misleading imo, I'd reccomend a good ol' Ctrl+G I like the little anti-jump there
00:13:887 (3) - Make this a bit closer to 00:13:287 (1) - so that 00:13:287 (1,2,3) - this whole part is equidistant I'll make it more ambiguous whether they're supposed to be equidistant or not :)
00:36:237 (2) - Ctrl+G? I do fancy all my sliders pointing downwards :(
00:51:687 (1) - I'm not sure if these should really be 1/8, all the gaps make it sound really weird as well (this applies for this whole section up to 01:15:387 (8) - ) I think it plays fine
01:28:587 (8,9,1) - Flow from (9) to (1) doesn't look good, try and see if you can make this part flow clockwise rather than anti-clockwise or however you want to do it so that it flows into 01:28:887 (1) - properly Oks :)
01:37:887 (9) - NC Oks

Good luck
Spiraler
from my queue

Hard
00:07:212 (3,1) - don't stack like this, move these down to make them more visible
00:09:087 (2) - stack the head of this on the tail of 00:07:887 (3)
01:19:287 (1) - move this up more, it blocks too much of the next slider
01:42:087 (1,2) - when I was a hard player I didn't like stacking like this. Can't say I'm a fan now
01:43:287 (1,2) - ^
01:46:887 (1,2) - ^
01:48:087 (1,2) - ^
01:52:887 (1,2) - ^
01:54:087 (1,2) - ^

Normal
00:03:687 (2) - not sure if this is intentional, but the sliderslide here is drum (which seems to be intentionally avoided elsewhere)
01:50:487 (1) - ^
02:00:087 (1) - ^

01:21:687 (1) - beautiful slider (not part of my mod, just wanted to say that)

Couldn't find anything in Insane or Cataclysm which is why I didn't mod them :)
Topic Starter
Frostings

Spiral527 wrote:

from my queue

Hard
00:07:212 (3,1) - don't stack like this, move these down to make them more visible spacing them more kinda goes against my intentions for this pattern
00:09:087 (2) - stack the head of this on the tail of 00:07:887 (3) Why? :)
01:19:287 (1) - move this up more, it blocks too much of the next slider Intentional
01:42:087 (1,2) - when I was a hard player I didn't like stacking like this. Can't say I'm a fan now I don't see a problem with it, and if I remain consistent it should be fine
01:43:287 (1,2) - ^
01:46:887 (1,2) - ^
01:48:087 (1,2) - ^
01:52:887 (1,2) - ^
01:54:087 (1,2) - ^

Normal
00:03:687 (2) - not sure if this is intentional, but the sliderslide here is drum (which seems to be intentionally avoided elsewhere) Yes they're intentional :)
01:50:487 (1) - ^
02:00:087 (1) - ^

01:21:687 (1) - beautiful slider (not part of my mod, just wanted to say that)

Couldn't find anything in Insane or Cataclysm which is why I didn't mod them :)
Thanks for modding !
NucleaRaven
Hi from my queue o/

[Cataclysm]

  1. 00:25:137 (1) - Wouldnt it make more sense to end the slider on the white tick? (theres an actual sound there)
  2. 00:51:687 (1,2,3,1,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - For this section i think you should lower the volume to around 45% as oppose to 60%
  3. 02:04:737 - Add a note here? (its fine either way)
  4. 02:10:587 (4) - I think if you made this slider 1/8 instead of 1/4 itd have a nice build up to the finish. (also compliments the build up cymbal)
Amazing map :D gl with rank
Topic Starter
Frostings

NucleaRaven wrote:

Hi from my queue o/

[Cataclysm]

  1. 00:25:137 (1) - Wouldnt it make more sense to end the slider on the white tick? (theres an actual sound there) Mapping the wubwub :oops:
  2. 00:51:687 (1,2,3,1,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - For this section i think you should lower the volume to around 45% as oppose to 60% Hmm makes sense. I've changed hitsound volumes around the map as well now that you've mentioned it
  3. 02:04:737 - Add a note here? (its fine either way) Hmmm I'd like to slow down this part as much as possible, and adding a note makes it too fast
  4. 02:10:587 (4) - I think if you made this slider 1/8 instead of 1/4 itd have a nice build up to the finish. (also compliments the build up cymbal) Nah I think the 1/4 is enough and I get a nice pattern out of it :)
Amazing map :D gl with rank Tyty
Potato-chii
Hi, from my queue~

[Normal]
AR is too fast. Normal diffs should have AR 5 or below. Also, you can’t have jumps in normal diffs, so use the distance snap. It is also best to make slider ends point towards the next slider’s head or hit circle most of the time so that you won’t confuse beginners.
00:18:687 (4) – If you want a blanket here, maybe fix it. And I’d recommend you to take the slider end away from 00:18:387 (3) because newbies often mistake it as the slider head.
02:11:037 (1) – Why end spinner there? Why not here 02:14:487 ?
I can’t really say anything more to this diff because not using distance snap kind of messed up everything.

[Hard]
01:08:487 (1) – Maybe not this shape again?

That's all. Good luck and sorry if this didn't help.
Topic Starter
Frostings
The AR is fine. I avoid lower AR because it tends to make the map too dense for beginners. They shouldn't see more than 2-3 objects at a time
I also want to stop the DS meta in lower diffs because there is almost no reason to enforce it. No player is gonna freak out because a circle appeared a few grids further than usual, especially when the rhythm is sparse. It's not like it's their first time using a mouse to click things. The only thing enforcing DS does is making sure every easy diff ever looks identical, and I don't want that.

DS should be a tool, not a burden

Potato-chii wrote:

00:18:687 (4) – If you want a blanket here, maybe fix it. And I’d recommend you to take the slider end away from 00:18:387 (3) because newbies often mistake it as the slider head.
I don't want a blanket there, and I don't see how someone can mistake the tail as the start.

Potato-chii wrote:

02:11:037 (1) – Why end spinner there? Why not here 02:14:487 ?
Actually it should end 02:14:449 - . That's precisely when the sound ends, and I'll fix that :oops:

Potato-chii wrote:

01:08:487 (1) – Maybe not this shape again?
I'll think about another shape :?

thanks for modding !
- HellBird -
Hello from my modding queue!

I'm very sorry I only modded the insane diff because I was just really busy and had no time for the Calamity diff. Tests are annoying :/

Insane
Insane
• 00:16:137 (4) - Not sure if the clap on this is intentional but if it is, then it just doesn't sound good at all. I suggest you just put the clap on 00:15:987 instead.
• 00:22:737 (1) - There should be 3 notes instead of this 1/1 slider because there is a sound at 00:22:887. Or you could make a 1/2 reverse slider, whatever you find better.
• 00:23:787 - You might not agree on me with this one, but there should be a note right here. Although since its a low drum hit, you should make the note a drum and reduce the volume for it. I did it and it sounds perfect. Up to you though.
• 00:24:387 (2) - Same with point 2. (Although this one might be fine because of the high whistle sound in the song)
• 00:25:137 (1) - ^ (This one isn't though)
• 00:30:237 - There should be a note here. Not following the piano like sounds, but the drums in the background.
• 00:31:287 (1) - Same with point 2.
• 00:33:687 (1,2) - This overlap is fine but it could be better imo.
• 00:47:487 (1,1) - This overlap could also be better. I messed around a bit, and I found that if you select all 3 notes at 00:47:487 (1,2,3), and then move them to x:84, y:240, the overlap becomes way better. (Visually ofc)
• 00:58:887 (2) - I think that if you NC this, it would be much more fun to play this part in tag-coop. (Yeah I know the slider is short compared to the one next to this one. But still, more fun in tag-coop ^^)
• 01:03:687 (2) - ^
• 01:11:337 (1) - There is no need for the NC here.
• 01:27:387 (1) - The random 2.00 SV change here is really awkward to play. I could understand the one at 01:26:787 (1) since it's only 1.5. But a 2.00 SV change just ruins the flow your map had imo.
• 01:28:362 (6,7) - This overlap is also fine but it also could have been better.
• From 01:33:687 up until 01:36:912, I think it would sound better if you put drum hitsounds on each slider start and slider end.
• 01:39:687 (1) - This note should really be a slider like the sliders at 01:39:987 (1,1,1). It should also be mixed up with them. Fits the flow better.

The rest of this diff is perfectly fine.

Really nice map. And again i'm sorry that I couldn't mod 2 diffs. Good luck on rank.
Topic Starter
Frostings

Scebtile wrote:

Hello from my modding queue!

I'm very sorry I only modded the insane diff because I was just really busy and had no time for the Calamity diff. Tests are annoying :/

Insane
• 00:16:137 (4) - Not sure if the clap on this is intentional but if it is, then it just doesn't sound good at all. I suggest you just put the clap on 00:15:987 instead. Oh yeah nice catch
• 00:22:737 (1) - There should be 3 notes instead of this 1/1 slider because there is a sound at 00:22:887. Or you could make a 1/2 reverse slider, whatever you find better. Nah, I can emphasize drums better by omitting the quieter and unnoticeable sounds
• 00:23:787 - You might not agree on me with this one, but there should be a note right here. Although since its a low drum hit, you should make the note a drum and reduce the volume for it. I did it and it sounds perfect. Up to you though. I actually mapped it by NOT mapping it :)
• 00:24:387 (2) - Same with point 2. (Although this one might be fine because of the high whistle sound in the song)
• 00:25:137 (1) - ^ (This one isn't though)
• 00:30:237 - There should be a note here. Not following the piano like sounds, but the drums in the background. Trying a mapping technique mapping the downbeat as a circle and omitting the eighth following. It works well here
• 00:31:287 (1) - Same with point 2.
• 00:33:687 (1,2) - This overlap is fine but it could be better imo.
• 00:47:487 (1,1) - This overlap could also be better. I messed around a bit, and I found that if you select all 3 notes at 00:47:487 (1,2,3), and then move them to x:84, y:240, the overlap becomes way better. (Visually ofc)
• 00:58:887 (2) - I think that if you NC this, it would be much more fun to play this part in tag-coop. (Yeah I know the slider is short compared to the one next to this one. But still, more fun in tag-coop ^^) Implying anyone plays co-op :)
• 01:03:687 (2) - ^
• 01:11:337 (1) - There is no need for the NC here. Ok
• 01:27:387 (1) - The random 2.00 SV change here is really awkward to play. I could understand the one at 01:26:787 (1) since it's only 1.5. But a 2.00 SV change just ruins the flow your map had imo. I like how it plays, and the extreme curve slows down the feel significantly
• 01:28:362 (6,7) - This overlap is also fine but it also could have been better.
• From 01:33:687 up until 01:36:912, I think it would sound better if you put drum hitsounds on each slider start and slider end. I experimented with some hitsounds and they all sounded bad :(
• 01:39:687 (1) - This note should really be a slider like the sliders at 01:39:987 (1,1,1). It should also be mixed up with them. Fits the flow better. o

The rest of this diff is perfectly fine.

Really nice map. And again i'm sorry that I couldn't mod 2 diffs. Good luck on rank.
Tyty
Shurelia
Another LeaF.



~ From Lovely Modding Quest! ~


[General]
- add "東方Project" to the tags. Because this song is inspired from the touhou's music.
- add "少女が見た日本の原風景" to the tags. Because it's the original song of this music.
- add "The Primal Scene of Japan the Girl Watched" to the tags. Because it's the english title of the original music.
- (opt) add "Kochiya Sanae" because it's her stage theme's songs.
- (opt) add "Mountain of Faith" because it's the the game's name that the original song comes from.

[Normal]
  1. 00:01:887 (2,1) - a sudden jump on normal is diff is too hard for those who able still able to play normal diff only. Decrease the distance please. This also applies to the other section of the map such as : 00:04:887 (1,2) - ,00:07:287 (1,2,3) - and so on.
  2. 00:33:987 - Feels too empty, you should add an object at here.
  3. 00:39:687 (2) - NC at here.
  4. 00:40:887 (2) - NC here too.
  5. 00:43:287 (2) - and here.. and so on. (Should try add NC at the big white lines.)
  6. 01:42:087 (1) - add Kiai please. oh, and also remove the whistle from the entire slider.
  7. 01:43:287 (2) - and so on..

    Need more mods.

[Hard]
  1. 00:07:587 (2,3,4) - Not going to be a fun thing on the Hard diff. Should try change the pattern.
  2. 00:11:787 (5,1,2) - This one is too hard to be read for players since you were using quite a low AR on this diff. Make it more readable.
  3. 00:40:887 (1,2,3,4) - Should be at insane or extra not on hard diff imo.
  4. 00:42:237 - Feels empty, add an object at here.
  5. 01:19:287 (1,2) - probably going to confuse players.

    This too.

[Insane]
  1. 00:06:687 (5) - Sudden change on SV means need NC so player could know about it.
  2. 00:15:087 (3) - Why not make it same like the others similar patterns? I mean, the repeated sliders one.
  3. 00:17:487 (3) - ^
  4. 00:39:687 (1,1) - nah, i don't think the (1) circle are needed. It'll make you click 2 times.


That's all for me, Hope this help. And good luck!
Topic Starter
Frostings
Hello :oops:

I added tags, and fixed the NC issues and kiai issues on Normal. I'm placing a NC every two bars because the density is so sparse. In the Normal diff, I only use DS where I feel it's necessary and ignore it otherwise if I'd rather create a specific structure instead. I have the opinion that small distance disparities in 1/1 rhythm have little effect on the difficulty of a map, if it's within reason and readable.

Shurelia wrote:

00:40:887 (1,2,3,4) - Should be at insane or extra not on hard diff imo.
I changed them into sliders, so it should be much easier to play now. :)

Other suggestions like adding a circle I didn't use because it either goes against my intent in the section, or it's too expensive to try to incorporate into the pattern structure, only for little gain :(

Thanks for the mod ! :)
ceLy
NM as requested
[Normal]
  1. sudden distance change may be bad in normal imo(like in 00:18:387 (3,4) - ), i suggest to keep ds in an average about 1.1x or something( even at downbeats, still inapproriate in normal imo
  2. 00:32:487 better to be clickable at downbeat
  3. 01:15:387 (1,2) - only stack in this diff, or maybe no stack(1/4 slide and a single note)?
[Hard]
  1. 00:05:487 (3,4) - jump seems no reason
  2. 00:07:887 (3) - ctl+g
  3. distance seems too large to me, maybe higher sv to suit it or just make them tider

    not mention all the distance thing above
[Insane]
  1. looks fine to me
Nice map :)

GL~

oh my 100 post
Topic Starter
Frostings

cHelli wrote:

NM as requested
[Normal]
  1. sudden distance change may be bad in normal imo(like in 00:18:387 (3,4) - ), i suggest to keep ds in an average about 1.1x or something( even at downbeats, still inapproriate in normal imo Because so many people are mentioning it, I went over the entire diff to see if there were things I could change that didn't need to belong. I ended up changing a couple distance issues (the ones that were a little too far and could easily be moved closer without breaking the intended structure)
  2. 00:32:487 better to be clickable at downbeat It might play better if I consider only this bar by itself, but if I used this mindset for every single bar in the song, it'll get boring pretty quick
  3. 01:15:387 (1,2) - only stack in this diff, or maybe no stack(1/4 slide and a single note)? I've actually thought about this a lot when I was mapping this part, and what I have now is the result of maximizing "ease-of-play : feel" ratio
[Hard]
  1. 00:05:487 (3,4) - jump seems no reason There is a reason :(
  2. 00:07:887 (3) - ctl+g Ok :)
  3. distance seems too large to me, maybe higher sv to suit it or just make them tider The rhythm is pretty sparse and the distancing is pretty fine from my PoV. Realistically, I think the hardest part in the whole diff is 00:10:887 (1,2,3) - which doesn't even break the holy "distance snap". And it reminds me I should probably make this easier because it is actually too hard ... :roll:

    not mention all the distance thing above
[Insane]
  1. looks fine to me
Nice map :)

GL~
Tyty
Shohei Ohtani
WHAT A CALAMITY!!!
bahahahhahha!!!!!!

Extra:
00:12:312 - Would be nice to have a note here since it's pretty prominent in the melody and this is the first instance of the main melodic theme
00:43:587 (2,3,4) - would be nice to have these spaced out more so it doesn't feel so jerky
01:20:787 (1,1) - NCs need not apply

Insane:
00:02:787 (1,1,1) - like you relaly don't need these NCs. Especially because the next pattern doesn't have them
00:57:687 - Ok so this is a HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE diff spread issue right here. the previous part has all of these 1/4 streams but you have sliders. This makes it INCREDIBLY unbalanced between your difficulties, which is a big no no and you'll run into a lot of issues over spread here. I'd suggest mapping this part out more.

Hard:
im really lazy I'm not going to point out all of your combo blunders but like if you have multiple (1)s in a row that's generally not a good idea unless there's an explicit purpose.
00:02:487 (1) - RC states (or should state, since staff is too lazy to update it and they'll yell at me if I do it) that Hard diffs must have 1 full beat of space between the end of a spinner and the next slider. So uh this is a boo boo
00:02:487 (1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,3,4,1) - this is literally the same pattern from the insane im going to kill myself omfg
01:21:762 (1,1) - You could seriously map way more than just this.
01:33:687 - ok be real with me did you just fucking copy-paste parts of this map from the insane

Normal:
ok so big general statement, your spread is like really screwed here. You have a bunch of 1/2s in the hard diff, yet these are all really long sliders. This feels more like an easy diff, and there needs to be some intermediary diff between this and hard. You can even tell by the star ratings being so far apart (1.93 - 3.36 stars apart is enough to be a really big concern for easier difficulties).

It's actually like a really nice map and I love what you did with the but has some glaring spread problems that make it not ready for ranking at all.
Topic Starter
Frostings

Reditum wrote:

WHAT A CALAMITY!!!
bahahahhahha!!!!!!

Extra:
00:12:312 - Would be nice to have a note here since it's pretty prominent in the melody and this is the first instance of the main melodic theme Actually If I wanted to follow the melody precisely it would have to start another 1/4 before what you said. But I don't want to do that, which is why it's the way it is currently.
00:43:587 (2,3,4) - would be nice to have these spaced out more so it doesn't feel so jerky The antijumps are intentional to follow the music feel
01:20:787 (1,1) - NCs need not apply I had a specific system for NC and it follows. That being said, I went through the whole diff to brush up on comboing again

Insane:
00:02:787 (1,1,1) - like you relaly don't need these NCs. Especially because the next pattern doesn't have them I disagree. The next pattern is different in a way that the overlap is easily read
00:57:687 - Ok so this is a HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGE diff spread issue right here. the previous part has all of these 1/4 streams but you have sliders. This makes it INCREDIBLY unbalanced between your difficulties, which is a big no no and you'll run into a lot of issues over spread here. I'd suggest mapping this part out more. I could map this using triples or 1/4 sliders but it's already overly done in the diff. There probably needs to be a difficulty gap between an Insane and an Expert diff, otherwise they would be the same map :roll:

Hard:
im really lazy I'm not going to point out all of your combo blunders but like if you have multiple (1)s in a row that's generally not a good idea unless there's an explicit purpose. There is an explicit purpose :)
00:02:487 (1) - RC states (or should state, since staff is too lazy to update it and they'll yell at me if I do it) that Hard diffs must have 1 full beat of space between the end of a spinner and the next slider. So uh this is a boo boo If someone brings it up, I'll look at it again :oops:
00:02:487 (1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,3,4,1) - this is literally the same pattern from the insane im going to kill myself omfg Um It's not the same pattern, but they are definitely similar. Weird, it's like the two diffs are the same song mapped by the same mapper in the same style...
01:21:762 (1,1) - You could seriously map way more than just this. Spinners are probably not the best fit here, but I like them as they set this section apart from the others, and spinners in Hard are usually difficult and exciting. The spinners set the player up perfectly for the next section in the song
01:33:687 - ok be real with me did you just fucking copy-paste parts of this map from the insane Nope, I don't look at my own maps for inspiration

Normal:
ok so big general statement, your spread is like really screwed here. You have a bunch of 1/2s in the hard diff, yet these are all really long sliders. This feels more like an easy diff, and there needs to be some intermediary diff between this and hard. You can even tell by the star ratings being so far apart (1.93 - 3.36 stars apart is enough to be a really big concern for easier difficulties). Before I started mapping Normal, I had two things in mind: 1. I wanted only 4 diffs in this set. 2. I wanted the easiest diff to have relatively fast AR and SV with uncommon DS. Because of RC's <2.00 star rule, I decided to map relatively easy rhythm to compensate for my decisions for the diff's properties. I don't see your point about star rating as those values are arbitrary, but I can see the problem with the rhythm discrepancies.... I feel Normal is on the very difficult side of an Easy diff, and Hard is on the easy side of a Hard diff, and I don't really think the spread suffers from a lack of a traditional "Normal" diff

It's actually like a really nice map and I love what you did with the but has some glaring spread problems that make it not ready for ranking at all.
Thanks for modding !
SnowNiNo_
From my queue

1pc test play
[Insane]
im just giving suggestion to make your map better to play, cause i cant find some big problem owo
00:09:687 (1,2) - make DS bigger since is not 1/2
00:34:887 (1,2) - ^
00:55:887 (4,5) - ^
00:10:587 (6) - NC off and 00:10:887 (1) - NC
00:35:787 (6) - ^
00:12:087 (1) - change to as same as 00:12:087 (1) - or 00:12:087 (1) -
00:42:087 (1) - dont need to NC here ..
00:47:487 (1,1) - avoid overlap
00:57:687 - i really think there is a better mapping at this part, instead of just sliders
01:09:687 - i got lots of 50s and 100s here, maybe is the note 01:10:587 (4) - that confused me, cause there is no note at 01:08:187 - and 01:09:387 - , so maybe you can consider to delete 01:10:587 (4) - in order to not confused player
01:24:837 - add a note
01:34:287 (3) - make the note as same as 01:33:987 (2) - , fit the music more
01:35:487 (3) - ^

1pc test play
[Cataclysm]
00:11:187 (3) - change-speed slider suggest to NC since it confused player with no NC, for example 01:26:787 (1,1,1) - and 01:40:587 (3,1,1,1) -
00:23:787 (4) - ^
00:36:387 (3) - ^
00:12:237 - add a note, you mapped every section after but why no mapped here
00:58:212 - if you follow the music here, no reason to separate streams, same as 01:00:012 - 01:00:612 - 01:02:412 - 01:03:012 - 01:03:312 - 01:04:512 - 01:05:412 - 01:05:562 -
02:00:762 (7,8,9) - awkward flow


GL~ :)
Topic Starter
Frostings
I didn't go through with any distance changes because I want the anti-jumps there
Some of the NC suggestions I didn't change because either I'm following the downbeat, or putting NC to signify SV change doesn't actually give warning that well because it's right in the middle of the pattern. Putting the NC will also ruin the intended combo pattern

Some of the notes suggested to add, I didn't because I want to vary the rhythm a little bit
The sliders in Insane I might break them up into more objects later... Currently I think they're alright at best, and maybe it's better to make the map more dense

Thanks for the mod ! :)
Ujimatsu Chiya
From Modding Queues

[General]
  1. looooooool funny BG , but is it safe? o.o

[Extra]
  1. 00:12:087 - How about add KiAi here? owo
  2. 00:11:187 (3) - little confused x_x add NC pls
  3. 00:11:937 (7) - how about think change 1/4 slider? we can heard 00:12:012 - this sounds enough.
  4. 00:17:787 (1) - remove NC and add NC 00:18:087 (5) - instead.
  5. 01:21:687 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - how about this thythem? It can more fit with electric sounds and can more emphasize 01:22:587 (10) - clap sound

[Hard]
  1. 00:47:487 (1,2,3) - hm... make reverse slider to more easy to play? o3o\


[Normal]
  1. different object's distance and 1.93 stars... well.. I don't think so this diff is not good for lowest dff. you're mapping awsome. try to make easy. you can.
  2. 01:12:087 (1,2,3,4) - are you sure this rhythem really fit with song?? Idk what sounds you want to follow.

woooooo BN pls rank this!!!
Topic Starter
Frostings

eINess wrote:

From Modding Queues o/

[General]
  1. looooooool funny BG , but is it safe? o.o
what do you mean? It's a masterpiece :)

[Extra]
  1. 00:12:087 - How about add KiAi here? owo mm.. I don't like adding too much kiai in maps
  2. 00:11:187 (3) - little confused x_x add NC pls NC kinda ruins my intended pattern.. :(
  3. 00:11:937 (7) - how about think change 1/4 slider? we can heard 00:12:012 - this sounds enough. oks :)
  4. 00:17:787 (1) - remove NC and add NC 00:18:087 (5) - instead. Did something else
  5. 01:21:687 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - how about this thythem? It can more fit with electric sounds and can more emphasize 01:22:587 (10) - clap sound
    ooh I like this

[Hard]
  1. 00:47:487 (1,2,3) - hm... make reverse slider to more easy to play? o3o\ ok


[Normal]
  1. different object's distance and 1.93 stars... well.. I don't think so this diff is not good for lowest dff. you're mapping awsome. try to make easy. you can. Hmm.. I want the easiest diff to be simple but not too trivial. If it was a slow song, I would agree and make an easier diff, but I think a really easy 1-star diff wouldn't fit with the song. I could make one similar style as Normal but using a lot of 1/1 and 2/1 sliders, but the difficulty would be similar and, in my opinion, it would ruin the spread more than leaving it as it is
  2. 01:12:087 (1,2,3,4) - are you sure this rhythem really fit with song?? Idk what sounds you want to follow. I actually tried a lot of things here and this has probably the best rhythm:playable ratio
모딩 고맙습니다 :)
mulraf
Hey from my queue o/

General:
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- well. that's an interesting uh.... bg... you got there. to say the least. erm yeah. don't know about that.
- there's a lot of different slider verlocities in the various difficulties. this is NOT a rule JUST a guideline - give it a thought. at least for some velocities that are very, very close:
"A maximum of three slider velocities should be used (including 1x). For example, you could have a single map using 0.6x, 0.8x, and 1x; or 0.75x, 1x, and 1.5x; etc. If more than three slider velocities are used, then they should make sense and be intuitive. If slider velocity changes are able to be merged (e.g. close values like 0.8x and 0.7x) while still flowing/working correctly, then they should be. "
- 02:11:037 (1) - This spinner isn't ending right on the tick in every difficulty.

Normal:
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- 01:09:687 (1) - Starting at this note you already change the NC pattern to every 2 downbeats again, however, the change in the songs is a bit later. i'd recommend nc'ing every downbeat like before that and starting with every second one at 01:16:887 (1) again

Hard:
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- 00:16:812 (4) - i'd recommend removing this note since it's a bit hard and doesn't flow as good (and i don't hear that sound there anyways).
- 00:25:962 (5) - ^
- 00:44:487 (1) - delete the hitcircle, move the spinner 1 tick closer and extend it one tick :?
- 01:10:887 (4) - NC here instead of the next tick
- 02:09:687 (3) - NC

Insane:
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- 00:37:287 (1) 00:39:687 (1) 00:42:087 (1) - i don't know. i just can't bring myself to like this circle right before the spinner. in my opinion it'd be better if the spinner just started one tick earlier. but i guess for the insane difficulty this is fine and is rather your taste. just think about it. this happens more often throughout the difficulty and i personally never like it and i think the song would also be matched if you used the other solution :x
- 01:00:087 (1) - nice pattern but there is no change in the song and that spinner is very slow and easy for insane. i'd think about changing it to 2 different spinners with mini-streams or mini fast repeat-slider-whatever's like in the following similar sections as well


I'll skip catacylsm since it's a bit to hard for me (even though i can nearly make it through the first half :P)
and sorry for the vague mod. it's a very original/creative way you did this beatmap (which i like). but since i'm kinda new at mapping/modding i don't have that much experience with those creative patterns. e.g. the nc's look really, really spooky :P but i guess i still get the idea most of the time. but sometimes i'm just confused lol.
Topic Starter
Frostings

mulraf wrote:

Hey from my queue o/

General:
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- well. that's an interesting uh.... bg... you got there. to say the least. erm yeah. don't know about that. Yeah took me a while to get it perfect
- there's a lot of different slider verlocities in the various difficulties. this is NOT a rule JUST a guideline - give it a thought. at least for some velocities that are very, very close:
"A maximum of three slider velocities should be used (including 1x). For example, you could have a single map using 0.6x, 0.8x, and 1x; or 0.75x, 1x, and 1.5x; etc. If more than three slider velocities are used, then they should make sense and be intuitive. If slider velocity changes are able to be merged (e.g. close values like 0.8x and 0.7x) while still flowing/working correctly, then they should be. " I would argue the difference in .1x SV change is pretty noticeable in high bpm. ...I actually don't know how I choose my SV values, it's pretty random (or sometimes extremely specific if I want to create certain slider)
- 02:11:037 (1) - This spinner isn't ending right on the tick in every difficulty. I've done it intentionally. (I think?) the music stops right there

Normal:
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- 01:09:687 (1) - Starting at this note you already change the NC pattern to every 2 downbeats again, however, the change in the songs is a bit later. i'd recommend nc'ing every downbeat like before that and starting with every second one at 01:16:887 (1) again Hmm.. I think I chose to NC every downbeat just to highlight the long sliders individually rather than coupling them together. After they end, no need to maintain the combo pattern

Hard:
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- 00:16:812 (4) - i'd recommend removing this note since it's a bit hard and doesn't flow as good (and i don't hear that sound there anyways). Think it plays fine. Also I hear a sound there :(
- 00:25:962 (5) - ^ What do you have against triples !! >:( :oops:
- 00:44:487 (1) - delete the hitcircle, move the spinner 1 tick closer and extend it one tick :? Probably play better, but also boring :)
- 01:10:887 (4) - NC here instead of the next tick No need I think (I actually found a weird timing point because of this suggestion though, so pretty cool)
- 02:09:687 (3) - NC o true

Insane:
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- 00:37:287 (1) 00:39:687 (1) 00:42:087 (1) - i don't know. i just can't bring myself to like this circle right before the spinner. in my opinion it'd be better if the spinner just started one tick earlier. but i guess for the insane difficulty this is fine and is rather your taste. just think about it. this happens more often throughout the difficulty and i personally never like it and i think the song would also be matched if you used the other solution :x Nah you're delusional :) (or maybe I am)
- 01:00:087 (1) - nice pattern but there is no change in the song and that spinner is very slow and easy for insane. i'd think about changing it to 2 different spinners with mini-streams or mini fast repeat-slider-whatever's like in the following similar sections as well Noo my slider :( Hmm.. Previously here I had it all filled with long sliders. I agree the transition is really awkward.. I might undermap the part right before it instead to make it flow better


I'll skip catacylsm since it's a bit to hard for me (even though i can nearly make it through the first half :P)
and sorry for the vague mod. it's a very original/creative way you did this beatmap (which i like). but since i'm kinda new at mapping/modding i don't have that much experience with those creative patterns. e.g. the nc's look really, really spooky :P but i guess i still get the idea most of the time. but sometimes i'm just confused lol. sp00ky NCs
Thanks for the mod ! :)
Shyotamaze
Hi, from uuh.. idk I'm lost

General
  1. Nothing to say
Normal
  1. Check AIMod, you need to be careful with the DS in that difficulty since you don't have an Easy
    EDIT: shit wrong diff name lmao
Hard
  1. 00:14:187 (4,1) - No blanket?
  2. 01:47:787 (4,1) - ^
Insane
  1. 00:07:587 (4,5) - No blanket?
  2. 00:08:787 (2,3) - ^
  3. 01:00:087 (1) - I love this slider dude
  4. 01:16:887 (1) - No shape? :( (it still looks nice but a shape would be better imo)
  5. 02:08:487 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1) - That ending may be a bit too similar to the Hard
Hm yea quality mod amirite guys :^), if you don't rank it with that background I'll cry
Good luck!
Topic Starter
Frostings

Shyotamaze wrote:

Hi, from uuh.. idk I'm lost

General
  1. Nothing to say
Hard
  1. Check AIMod, you need to be careful with the DS in that difficulty since you don't have an Easy I use DS as a guideline, not a rule
Hard
  1. 00:14:187 (4,1) - No blanket? Style preference
  2. 01:47:787 (4,1) - ^
Insane
  1. 00:07:587 (4,5) - No blanket?
  2. 00:08:787 (2,3) - ^
  3. 01:00:087 (1) - I love this slider dude Thanks ;)
  4. 01:16:887 (1) - No shape? :( (it still looks nice but a shape would be better imo) I really like the slow straight slider, works pretty well with the music and the patterns that follow
  5. 02:08:487 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1) - That ending may be a bit too similar to the Hard Yeah... It's the same for the three higher diffs. I use it because it's probably the best pattern to use there and to give the mapset a sense of unity I guess
Hm yea quality mod amirite guys :^), if you don't rank it with that background I'll cry :^)
Good luck!
Thanks for checking it out ;)
Kibbleru
01:39:687 - :D

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01:39:687 - 1.6 sv
rest r 2.0 xd
Topic Starter
Frostings

Kibbleru wrote:

watagod
Kibbleru
dis guy trying to be edgy with his low diffs again xd
those normal diff jumps
Topic Starter
Frostings
fight the DS meta!
Moa
From my queue
Sorry for late
BG is so good
It's sooooo nice Map!
[Normal]
I Think You'll Use Distance Snap In Normal Diff
Jumps are hard
01:21:687 (1) - I think this slider is waste rhythm
[hard]
00:14:187 (4,1) - Blanket?
00:11:787 (5,1) - spacing is so distant?
00:36:987 (3,1) - ^
00:33:987 (2,3) - ^
01:04:887 (1) - Move it down It's meet with HP bar
good map
[Insane]
Nothing to say
[Extra]
sorry i can't mod over Extra Diff


Sorry for Baka Mods
It's so nice and funny map!
Topic Starter
Frostings
I fixed a little bit of distance ;)
Thanks :)
Mechanizen
Yep o/

Some details"

Hard
00:03:687 (1,2,1) The spacing there can be smarter:



These 2 sliders and the circle have the same spacing on timeline so why don't they have thet same spacing on the map?
This can be better like that:



00:16:737 (3,4,1) Maybe make a single combo with this stipple (1,2,3)
Cataclysm
Little things"

00:51:687 (1) NC ?

00:52:887 (1) ^

01:22:137 (5,6,7,8,9) All stacks in that part are 3 note stacks. And there we got a 5 note stack, this might be confusing, just saying.

Nice map!
Gl for rank :D
Topic Starter
Frostings
o fixed all except the NC's (don't know what you mean by that :()
Thanks for modding! :)
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