Feint - We Won't Be Alone (feat. Laura Brehm) · forum

Cheesecake

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Cheesecake 2016-12-23T23:31:20+00:00

ViolentBoo wrote:
-Easy-
02:05:168 (4) - This slider doesn't look nice. Maybe make a new one? I like this slider, but I changed the direction of the curve on the first part which I think makes it look better
02:21:282 (4) - Make the red anchor point on this slider meet with a white tick. looks cool. The red tick is fine too!
02:26:425 (4) - Try to avoid overlapping on easy. Think I've replied about these before, basically theres enough time to read it and blahblahblah

Good Luck!
Please check out and or maybe mod :3 : t/508432 might do!

Thanks!

Aleksander92

36 posts

Joined September 2015

Aleksander92 2016-12-28T21:51:36+00:00

Hi!

First of all, want to say that I already like this mapset much more than the ranked one. As for me, ranked version has a lot of standart technical elements that don't express the song in any way, and your difficulties are so much better in it

[DavidEd's Insane]

00:54:882 (1) // 02:22:654 (1) - Move spinners starts to 02:21:282 (1) // 02:21:282 (1) - recpectively, currently they're too short to feel them, so when you pass them they are feeling unnecessary
00:26:082 (1,2,3,4,5) // 01:53:854 (1,2,3,4,5) - Two strangest moments among all difficulty, sliders are not playing to the flow properly. I would suggest to change it simply to https://puu.sh/t3PV4/32ba32d2b0.png
00:31:568 (1,2,3,4,5) // 01:59:339 (1,2,3,4,5) - Feeling a bit less strange, but still suggest to replace it

[Kyshiro's Extra]

00:52:139 (1) - old combo, 00:53:511 (3) - new combo, 00:55:225 (1) - old combo?
01:31:911 (1,2) - what are these sliders for, simple circles on their starts look much more naturally
01:45:282 (8,9) - ^
02:10:311 (1,2,3,4) - either insert circle at 02:10:997 - (you can make a triple with 02:11:168 (3,4) - ) or make circle from 02:10:654 (2) - slider
02:14:425 (1) - old combo?
02:29:511 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - why combo colours are changing through 5 here?

Other difficulties look good for me. I'm not the big fan of last diff but technically it seems ok.

Good luck further

Last edited by Aleksander92 2016-12-28T23:43:43+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Dilectus

1,727 posts

Joined April 2014

Dilectus 2016-12-28T22:24:39+00:00

Aleksander92 wrote:
00:54:882 (1) // 02:22:654 (1) - Move spinners starts to 02:21:282 (1) // 02:21:282 (1) - recpectively, currently they're too short to feel them, so when you pass them they are feeling unnecessary
00:26:082 (1,2,3,4,5) // 01:53:854 (1,2,3,4,5) - Two strangest moments among all difficulty, sliders are not playing to the flow properly. I would suggest to change it simply to https://puu.sh/t3PV4/32ba32d2b0.png
00:31:568 (1,2,3,4,5) // 01:59:339 (1,2,3,4,5) - Feeling a bit less strange, but still suggest to replace it only changed one of them. i feel they do flow good

Also buffed od for ~~that massive pp increase~~ consistency

Thanks Aleksander!

FIXES

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Exote

416 posts

Joined April 2013

Exote 2016-12-29T11:50:16+00:00

ok let's reply to mods been a month lol

@HootOwlStar

00:55:568 (5,6,1) - problem is that even though they are all 1/2 sliders, but the slider velocity multiplier varies the distance snap, causing the distance inconsistency and increasing the difficulty to read. same goes to 02:23:339 (5,6,1,2) - . you could start the (x0.70 - x0.80) sv multiplier at 00:55:568 (5) - and 02:23:339 (5) - to produce difficulty progression btw - I just spaced all 1/2s in those pre-build up parts with same spacings as the ones from the build up, since different DS is allowed in hards this is technically appropriate
would love to see that the Z-shaped sliders such as 01:16:825 (1) - to be made into Z's with parts of regular length but it's definitely up to you anyway - nah it's meant to be like that, THAT IS A FORT INSPIRED SLIDER
02:02:768 (3,4,5) - it's really odd that these sliders didn't follow the vocals like you did before. the rhythm in 01:51:797 (3,4,5,6) - should be used instead to be precise - I'm aware I haven't used rhythm consistently, it's to bring variety
02:10:311 (1) - would be great if you moved it exactly to the centre of the grids anyway - eyy would look too generic for a hard diff
this diff is so much fun.

@ViolentBoo

01:04:482 (1) - Make this half as long and duplicate it. (Hold, release, hold, release. Instead of just one hold and release) - gonna get too messy and probably not as easy, leaving it
02:32:254 (1) - ^ - ^
02:55:225 (2) - Copy paste the previous slider and replace it. - I like my current pattern

so I partially? applied some stuff ye thanks bois http://puu.sh/t4A9K/9b7fb3fd5d.osu

nextplay

976 posts

Joined December 2015

nextplay 2017-02-10T11:33:15+00:00

:3

Cheesecake

729 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Cheesecake 2017-03-12T23:25:45+00:00

when

defiance

503 posts

Joined July 2015

defiance 2017-03-14T05:18:33+00:00

cheesecake

-Mo-

Nomination Assessment Team

953 posts

Joined December 2012

-Mo- 2017-07-04T00:04:52+00:00

Yeah I remember this.

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MEK

66 posts

Joined September 2013

MEK 2017-07-04T00:44:36+00:00

I personally think this map isn't ready for rank. Don't you think 5.84 stars is a little ridiculous, Hikaru Rose? Also the map host (Cheesecake) only has the third highest amount of drain time in the map, which honestly is disgraceful that such a highly respected Easy guest difficulty maker would do that on his own mapset. I would suggest you to move the mapset to Hikaru or Kyshiro, people with ranked maps and experience mapping stuff that isnt below 2 star rating.

No Kudosu thank you.

RyoKazuka

Elite Mapper

669 posts

Joined April 2015

RyoKazuka 2017-07-05T11:11:25+00:00

im starting to take account about what Charles445 said about hp drain
hp matters for me rn

-Mo-

Nomination Assessment Team

953 posts

Joined December 2012

-Mo- 2017-07-06T12:47:52+00:00

General

Cheesecake wrote:
- Combo colours aren't consistent for all diffs, intentional? I don't map with custom colours so I never actually notice haha I'll do one set for all diffs at some point

Colours are still very inconsistent.

- Remove Ozzy's and banananian's names from tags if you killed the taiko diffs.

Easy
- 00:26:425 (5) - Pretty picky thing but I would rotate this clockwise by a few degrees so there's more of a curved flow through 4-5.
- 00:30:882 (3,4) - 4 doesn't really follow the path after slider 3, which is inconsistent with the rest of this combo where each slider points into the next object smoothly.
- 00:58:997 (1) - Maybe lower this so that the elevation change from 3-4 and 4-1 is more equal.
- 02:43:568 (4) - Would rotate this counter clockwise a few degrees so it points into the next slider better.
- Looking at this diff again I feel like a NC every 4 measures is too long (it's ~5 seconds per combo) and makes it so beginner players are less likely to get Gekis at the end of combos. One every ~two measures should suffice.

Ryo's Normal
- 01:01:739 (1,2,3) - 02:29:511 (1,2,3) - I don't feel this is a good idea for a normal difficulty. You're already using a lot of 1/2 rthythms which can be straining on a beginner player, and using something so dense could throw such a player off. Also mind that Easy uses no 1/2 rhythms, so using too many here will affect the spread negatively.
- I feel overall the mapset spread would benefit if parts of this difficulty weren't so dense by nerfing parts like 01:12:025 (5,6,1,2,3,4) - 01:31:911 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) .

DavidEd's Insane
- 01:42:197 (4,5,6) - 03:09:968 (3,4,5) - This triple seems out of place since you didn't place one here in any other part of this section.
- 01:44:597 (1) - Too many NCs.
- 02:06:711 (3,4,5) - Minor thing but you could try rotate stuff around so that 3-4-5 make a straight line.
- 02:09:625 (3) - More of a preference thing, but maybe consider having the slider curve the other way so there's still up/down movement for each beat.

Kyshiro's Extra
- 00:41:168 (1) - The music doesn't really suggest using 3/4 in my opinion since I can't hear anything significant on the blue tick.
- 01:45:282 (8,9) - I think swapping these around would be better since you'll keep the circular flow going through the rest of the combo.

Yeah call me back.

Cheesecake

729 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Cheesecake 2017-07-06T13:38:29+00:00

-Mo- wrote:
General
Cheesecake wrote:
- Combo colours aren't consistent for all diffs, intentional? I don't map with custom colours so I never actually notice haha I'll do one set for all diffs at some point
Colours are still very inconsistent. Whoops

- Remove Ozzy's and banananian's names from tags if you killed the taiko diffs. Done

Easy
- 00:26:425 (5) - Pretty picky thing but I would rotate this clockwise by a few degrees so there's more of a curved flow through 4-5. Done
- 00:30:882 (3,4) - 4 doesn't really follow the path after slider 3, which is inconsistent with the rest of this combo where each slider points into the next object smoothly. Given a bit more curve to (3)
- 00:58:997 (1) - Maybe lower this so that the elevation change from 3-4 and 4-1 is more equal. Did a bit of restructuring
- 02:43:568 (4) - Would rotate this counter clockwise a few degrees so it points into the next slider better. I originally had it like that to blanket 02:40:825 (2) - but they're far enough apart that it doesn't matter really lol
- Looking at this diff again I feel like a NC every 4 measures is too long (it's ~5 seconds per combo) and makes it so beginner players are less likely to get Gekis at the end of combos. One every ~two measures should suffice. Done mostly, except for a few cases that would lead to overly short combos like 00:53:511 (4) - , and after each kiai

Yeah call me back.

Thanks!

Dilectus

1,727 posts

Joined April 2014

Dilectus 2017-07-06T18:28:33+00:00

Changed all

Thank you Mo

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Exote

416 posts

Joined April 2013

Exote 2017-07-07T10:05:09+00:00

oh?? is this happening

Melvino7468

4 posts

Joined February 2017

Melvino7468 2017-07-08T22:11:02+00:00

Lmao its about time been playing ur deleted version for a while

Melvino7468

4 posts

Joined February 2017

Melvino7468 2017-07-08T22:14:51+00:00

But I still loved the older versions especially Manysi's Extra and Forts Version

Exote

416 posts

Joined April 2013

Exote 2017-07-08T23:23:14+00:00

yea I liked fort one as well, too bad he wanted it removed

Exote

416 posts

Joined April 2013

Exote 2017-07-10T04:57:38+00:00

forgot to reply for ryo

@-Mo-

- 01:01:739 (1,2,3) - 02:29:511 (1,2,3) - I don't feel this is a good idea for a normal difficulty. You're already using a lot of 1/2 rthythms which can be straining on a beginner player, and using something so dense could throw such a player off. Also mind that Easy uses no 1/2 rhythms, so using too many here will affect the spread negatively. - added a single circle on the beginning of the repeats and extended the spinner
- I feel overall the mapset spread would benefit if parts of this difficulty weren't so dense by nerfing parts like 01:12:025 (5,6,1,2,3,4) - 01:31:911 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) . - nerfed

Overall not a fan of both those points, since there's always gonna be a noticable spread gap, be it between easy-normal or normal-hard, which imo should allow longer chains, so the players would know whatto expect in hard difficulties like here, non-stop 1/2. But anyway I shortened the mentioned and similar chains and nerfed the build ups

http://puu.sh/wFUHB/27ae13f90e.osu

Kyshiro

Elite Mapper

1,642 posts

Joined January 2011

Kyshiro 2017-07-11T10:43:20+00:00

https://kshro.s-ul.eu/4Y4h7SvW.txt

Fixed everything

-Mo-

Nomination Assessment Team

953 posts

Joined December 2012

-Mo- 2017-07-15T13:37:16+00:00

dw I hate nerfing stuff too

Easy
- 01:15:454 (1) - Is this supposed to have a whistle given 01:09:968 (1) - 01:20:939 (1) - don't?
- 02:04:139 (3) - This is a tiny thing but I guess it would look neater if you rotated this about 4 degrees (3-4 spacing won't be at exactly 1.10 but that doesn't really matter too much).

i

https://puu.sh/wK9DN.jpg

- 02:54:539 (1) - 01:26:425 (1) - Inconsistent hitsounding on the spinners.

Exote's Hard
- 03:18:539 (4) - This is using the normal sampleset clap instead of the soft like the rest of the map.

DavidEd's Insane
- 02:58:997 (3,4,5) - One more of these triples if you want to change it.
- 03:09:968 (3,1) - Don't suppose this overlap could be avoided?

Kyshiro's Extra
- 01:43:739 (7,8) - Kind of feels like this spacing needs to be larger.

Hikaru's Rose Extra
- 01:06:882 (1,1) - 01:29:168 (1,1) - The same combo colours are used consecutively here. You should probably fix these.
- 01:46:482 (5) - This is snapped to x0.9 spacing instead of x1.0.

Hopefully that should be it after this.

Hikaru Rose

236 posts

Joined August 2014

Hikaru Rose 2017-07-15T14:09:55+00:00

-Mo- wrote:
dw I hate nerfing stuff too

Hikaru's Rose Extra
- 01:06:882 (1,1) - 01:29:168 (1,1) - The same combo colours are used consecutively here. You should probably fix these. - I think Cheesecake removed 2 combo colours resulting in this, fixed though (Never thought something like this was possible lol)
- 01:46:482 (5) - This is snapped to x0.9 spacing instead of x1.0. - Changed!

Hopefully that should be it after this.

Exote

416 posts

Joined April 2013

Exote 2017-07-15T14:29:06+00:00

fixed thanks http://puu.sh/wKf94/b13f677be6.osu

Cheesecake

729 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Cheesecake 2017-07-16T11:38:46+00:00

-Mo- wrote:
dw I hate nerfing stuff too

Easy
- 01:15:454 (1) - Is this supposed to have a whistle given 01:09:968 (1) - 01:20:939 (1) - don't? Removed
- 02:04:139 (3) - This is a tiny thing but I guess it would look neater if you rotated this about 4 degrees (3-4 spacing won't be at exactly 1.10 but that doesn't really matter too much). I suppose with the long time gap to the next slider the 0.05 isnt gonna throw anyone off
i
https://puu.sh/wK9DN.jpg
- 02:54:539 (1) - 01:26:425 (1) - Inconsistent hitsounding on the spinners. Changed both to soft finishes

Kyshiro's Extra
- 01:43:739 (7,8) - Kind of feels like this spacing needs to be larger.

Hopefully that should be it after this.

Thanks again

Last edited by Cheesecake 2017-07-16T11:54:18+00:00, edited 3 times in total.

Dilectus

1,727 posts

Joined April 2014

Dilectus 2017-07-16T11:51:42+00:00

fixed those

tyvm

changes

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-Mo-

Nomination Assessment Team

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Joined December 2012

-Mo- 2017-07-18T18:23:02+00:00

Fixed some other small stuff in the higher diffs.

Bubbled, good lu

Cheesecake

729 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Cheesecake 2017-07-18T18:27:55+00:00

♡

-Mo-

Nomination Assessment Team

953 posts

Joined December 2012

-Mo- 2017-07-19T01:13:02+00:00

Someone pointed out to me that Hikaru Rose's new name should be added to the tags.

Popping because it's a metadata issue. I'll rebubble once it's fixed.

-Mo-

Nomination Assessment Team

953 posts

Joined December 2012

-Mo- 2017-07-19T12:09:28+00:00

im blind

Cheesecake

729 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Cheesecake 2017-07-19T12:10:20+00:00

same

Natsu

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Joined September 2012

Natsu 2017-07-23T12:01:08+00:00

Hikaru's Rose Extra

00:28:825 (1,2) - can you unstack this? It's like the only stack in the whole section and similar rhythms aren't stacked, it looks super inconsistent.
00:38:082 (4,6) - the overlap doesn't looks nice, it hurts the visuals tbh.
00:42:539 (1,2,3) - same, tbh they don't looks intentional, but like a mistake, I think you can placed them better.
00:47:339 (4,5,6,7,1) - make a perfect star? it looks bad visually o.o, I understand 1 having more spacing than 00:47:339 (4,5,6,7) - , but atleast make 00:47:339 (4,5,6,7) - equal spacing.
01:01:739 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - cool
01:07:825 (3) - the overmap sounds really bad here, specially because the music gets heavy at 1/2s~
01:11:339 (1,3,4,5) - is this supposed to be a blanket?
01:17:682 (6) - I'd move this a bit to the right, since the movement from 6 to 7 is kinda uncomfortable, try: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8663180
01:18:197 (1,4) - can you avoid the overlap, I don't think it's on purpose
01:50:597 (4,5,6) - The spacing is inconsistent with 01:39:625 (4,5,6) - and considering the rest of the map I think the spacing used at 01:39:625 (4,5,6) - fits better the map, here too 02:56:425 (2,3,4) -
02:07:225 (4,5) - the spacing is too big, compared to other similar ones at this calm section, I think this section 01:51:111 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - really need to be more consistent with the spacing, is a super calm part and the spacing being inconsistent make it feels chaotic instead of calm, I don't think it takes much effort to fix this
03:06:711 (2,3,4,5) - this isn't intuitive to play, your spacing doesn't fit the spacing at the timeline

Kyshiro's Extra

01:45:282 (8,9,1) - the mapset flows really nice, but this pattern ruins the flow, it's super uncomfortable to play, I think you can do a better placement, like in 01:44:254 (1,2,3) -

DavidEd's Insane

01:42:711 (6,7,1) - why the spacing is so different to other triplets, for example 01:39:625 (4,5,6) - is stronger than 01:42:711 (6,7,1) - but has less spacing? maybe use the same spacing like in 01:50:597 (4,5,6) - for 01:39:625 (4,5,6) -
01:04:482 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - vs 02:32:254 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - NCs are inconsistent

Exote's Hard

01:51:111 (1) - add whistle on the slider head? it sounds really empty when clicking it :l
02:13:054 (1) - there is a little cymbal in the music add finish with low volume?, being honest 02:13:054 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) - maybe u should add some whistles at some objects it sounds super empty atm.
02:24:025 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - mmm this diff really needs more HS.. just copy them from the hardest diff? since there are several missed HS
OD 6 fits better the spread and your AR

Ryo's Normal

02:10:311 (1,2,3,4,1) - 00:42:539 (1,2,3,4,1) - You are missing HS at those objects
02:24:025 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,1) - ^
can you also recheck your HS? there are many hs missed :l

Easy

00:43:568 (1) - it's better to use a finish instead of whistles for cymbals, like you did at 01:26:425 (1) -
02:11:339 (1) - ^

Hikaru Rose

236 posts

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Hikaru Rose 2017-07-23T14:27:55+00:00

Natsu wrote:
Hikaru's Rose Extra

00:28:825 (1,2) - can you unstack this? It's like the only stack in the whole section and similar rhythms aren't stacked, it looks super inconsistent. - yep my bad
00:38:082 (4,6) - the overlap doesn't looks nice, it hurts the visuals tbh. - Changed!
00:42:539 (1,2,3) - same, tbh they don't looks intentional, but like a mistake, I think you can placed them better. - Changed!
00:47:339 (4,5,6,7,1) - make a perfect star? it looks bad visually o.o, I understand 1 having more spacing than 00:47:339 (4,5,6,7) - , but atleast make 00:47:339 (4,5,6,7) - equal spacing. - Changed!
01:01:739 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - cool - Thanks~
01:07:825 (3) - the overmap sounds really bad here, specially because the music gets heavy at 1/2s~ I'm pretty sure there's hats here which my triple resembles! I know the 1/2 gets really heavy but I think this way fits the hats as well~
01:11:339 (1,3,4,5) - is this supposed to be a blanket? - I don't think so but I made it a blanket now
01:17:682 (6) - I'd move this a bit to the right, since the movement from 6 to 7 is kinda uncomfortable, try: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8663180
01:18:197 (1,4) - can you avoid the overlap, I don't think it's on purpose
01:50:597 (4,5,6) - The spacing is inconsistent with 01:39:625 (4,5,6) - and considering the rest of the map I think the spacing used at 01:39:625 (4,5,6) - fits better the map, here too 02:56:425 (2,3,4) -
02:07:225 (4,5) - the spacing is too big, compared to other similar ones at this calm section, I think this section 01:51:111 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - really need to be more consistent with the spacing, is a super calm part and the spacing being inconsistent make it feels chaotic instead of calm, I don't think it takes much effort to fix this - I changed them around, is this okay? o:
03:06:711 (2,3,4,5) - this isn't intuitive to play, your spacing doesn't fit the spacing at the timeline - 03:06:539 (1,2,3,4,5) - Should've played like a star but changed the kick slider order around I guess

Cheesecake u messed up the colour hexing again !!! ;;

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Exote

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Joined April 2013

Exote 2017-07-23T15:02:14+00:00

@Natsu

hard

01:51:111 (1) - add whistle on the slider head? it sounds really empty when clicking it :l - added normal finish
02:13:054 (1) - there is a little cymbal in the music add finish with low volume?, being honest - added soft finish
02:13:054 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) - maybe u should add some whistles at some objects it sounds super empty atm. - added simple whistles
02:24:025 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - mmm this diff really needs more HS.. just copy them from the hardest diff? since there are several missed HS - no? the kiais are already full of HS, it was originally HS-ed with custom hitsounds, and I haven't touched almost anything after the deletion of the custom stuff, but it still works. Guess I don't like putting shit where it's not necessary.
OD 6 fits better the spread and your AR - don't know how OD is even compatible with AR, but I changed od6 cuz true, and hp lowered to 5 from 5,5.

ryo

02:10:311 (1,2,3,4,1) - 00:42:539 (1,2,3,4,1) - You are missing HS at those objects
02:24:025 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,1) - ^
can you also recheck your HS? there are many hs missed :l

Since Ryo's hs were based off of mine, I just copied my hs to his diff, and changed a little other stuff to make it compatible with his diff.

ty

hard http://puu.sh/wR0zG/981d745790.osu
ryo http://puu.sh/wR0A8/efa6222e9b.osu

Cheesecake

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Cheesecake 2017-07-23T18:25:54+00:00

Natsu wrote:
Kyshiro's Extra

01:45:282 (8,9,1) - the mapset flows really nice, but this pattern ruins the flow, it's super uncomfortable to play, I think you can do a better placement, like in 01:44:254 (1,2,3) - Ctrl+g'd 01:45:454 (9) -
DavidEd's Insane

01:42:711 (6,7,1) - why the spacing is so different to other triplets, for example 01:39:625 (4,5,6) - is stronger than 01:42:711 (6,7,1) - but has less spacing? maybe use the same spacing like in 01:50:597 (4,5,6) - for 01:39:625 (4,5,6) - Done and also fixed 03:07:397 (4,5,6) -
01:04:482 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - vs 02:32:254 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - NCs are inconsistent Fixed

Easy

00:43:568 (1) - it's better to use a finish instead of whistles for cymbals, like you did at 01:26:425 (1) - Done
02:11:339 (1) - ^^

thaanq

Natsu

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Natsu 2017-07-24T16:47:22+00:00

Looks fine~

meta: https://soundcloud.com/monstercat/feint ... t-be-alone

Vivyanne

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Vivyanne 2017-07-24T16:53:08+00:00

SHIET She back from the Stone Age

Kujinn

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Kujinn 2017-07-25T01:46:42+00:00

Man, this was uploaded before I started mapping, Gratz

Shmiklak

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Shmiklak 2017-07-25T03:15:10+00:00

Grats. btw I wonder why Hikaru's Rose Extra? Your name is Hikaru Rose and using Hikaru Rose's would be better because using the way you used is smth meming, I remember times when deppyforce used Force of Deppy and he was slapped for this. Also I found only one your GD, you used Hikaru's X, then why don't use the same option here? In my opinion it doesn't make much sense, but if someone else thinks as I do then I think better to change it because it is just stupid. Can you provide us any valid reason why you used Hikaru's Rose?

oh btw keep in mind that I don't wish you DQ and I actually want to see this map in Ranked state so gl

meii18

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meii18 2017-07-25T09:22:32+00:00

agree. i know it's the highest diff but hikaru's rose extra does not even fit the song because it talks about that "we will be forever together" not about flowers and stuff and the diff name is kind of meme if i'm not wrong hikaru's extra or hikaru's <insert custom name> would work and it would be less memeish

Cheesecake

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Cheesecake 2017-07-25T10:26:12+00:00

A rose often has the connotation of love, you know how in a relationship one might give a rose to the other to be romantic? The song is about love, or more accurately about a lover leaving the character the lyrics describe, so one could imagine said character giving a rose to the person who left her to try and prove her love. Perhaps not the best example, but hopefully that brings my idea across.
So while Rose doesn't directly link with the song, the connotation of a rose and the theme of the song definitely do. It is also of course a play on Hikaru's name there's no denying that, but it's not just some blind memery and there was some thought and inspiration behind it.

meii18

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meii18 2017-07-25T10:49:24+00:00

Cheesecake wrote:
A rose often has the connotation of love, you know how in a relationship one might give a rose to the other to be romantic? The song is about love, or more accurately about a lover leaving the character the lyrics describe, so one could imagine said character giving a rose to the person who left her to try and prove her love. Perhaps not the best example, but hopefully that brings my idea across.
So while Rose doesn't directly link with the song, the connotation of a rose and the theme of the song definitely do. It is also of course a play on Hikaru's name there's no denying that, but it's not just some blind memery and there was some thought and inspiration behind it.

hmm i see then why don't you name only Hikaru's Rose? Hikaru's Rose Extra sounds pretty memeish imo

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