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The effective way to get used to Extra diff?

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Keihyan
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Joined March 2014
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Keihyan
Hello

Ive been playing extra diff with no mod for 1 month and I cant feel improvement.
I think Im practicing on wrong way that is try similar song again and again.

Is there any effective way to improve skill to get used to Extra diiff ?(especially AIM)
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dung eater
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dung eater
aim? just play maps with higher stars, concentrate on aim. if you miss a lot or don't know why/how you miss, you might want to play easier maps

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Rilene
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Joined April 2014
Rilene
Play extra diffs with HT to get used with wide/slow jumps.
Keihyan
132 posts
Joined March 2014
Topic Starter
Keihyan

Sirade wrote:

Play extra diffs with HT to get used with wide/slow jumps.
Is practicing slow jump a helpful?
CXu
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CXu
The most effective way to get used to extra diffs is to play extra diffs, and not posting on the forums.
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I Give Up
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Joined January 2014
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Keihyan wrote:

Sirade wrote:

Is practicing slow jump a helpful?
I don't recommend ever playing half time unless u want get good at ar7 reading. Practis slow jump helps with technique and practise fast jump to improve stamina must do both for mouse.
Infevo
463 posts
Joined October 2014
Infevo

KukiMonster wrote:

I don't recommend ever playing half time unless u want get good at ar7 reading. Practis slow jump helps with technique and practise fast jump to improve stamina must do both for mouse.
AR9 + HT + HR = AR9

And yes, this is what musicians do to get used to certain things they want to play in original speed. They practice the same chord progressions/arpeggioes/etc. slow first.
Redon
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Joined November 2013
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Yuudachi-kun
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Joined August 2014
Yuudachi-kun
How about you gradually work your way up in difficulty of what you can fc?
Endaris
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Joined June 2010
Endaris

Redon wrote:

Infevo wrote:

chord progressions/arpeggioes/etc.
You press two buttons
Pianoplayers beat rhythms with their two hands to get familiar with the rhythm so they have an easier time doing the same with their fingers later.
I can tell you from experience that just beating rhythms can already be decently hard.
Clappy
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Joined May 2013
Clappy

Infevo wrote:

AR9 + HT + HR = AR9

AR9 + HT + HR = AR8.5
-Makishima S-
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Joined August 2013
-Makishima S-
AR9 + HT + HR = AR8.5
Wut? Lie.


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Redon
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I Give Up
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Infevo wrote:

And yes, this is what musicians do to get used to certain things they want to play in original speed. They practice the same chord progressions/arpeggioes/etc. slow first.
osu! players don't need to be musicians. Playing slow is different skill to playing fast. HTHR will help with memorising pattern, but when you play song without it is now faster bpm. Really if you need to play HTHR just to learn pattern then you shouldn't even be attempting that hard map.

Instead, this:

Khelly wrote:

How about you gradually work your way up in difficulty of what you can fc?
Endaris
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Endaris
I never said pressing two buttons can't be hard. But I'm under the impression that pianists, for example, learn to play patterns slowly first in order to acquire the dexterity, muscle memory and finger independence they need to play it faster. To press two buttons in osu, you basically need speed, stamina, accuracy and a "sense of rhythm". I can't imagine how playing a slowed down version of a "pattern" would help you with any of that.
It depends on the pattern. If we're talking about mere jumps it is no problem of course but if you play a pattern like this the speed at which you play it makes a very big difference.
chainpullz
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Joined June 2013
chainpullz
Find some maps that have a uniform difficulty throughout but at a much higher star level so you can drill your consistency for the bullshit difficulty spikes that occur in pretty much every ranked 5*+ map these days. Playing more extra won't help you as much since you can probably take a nap for half the map, miss once or twice on the spike, and not get much out of it.

That or you could just spam a given extra until you get lucky and make it through the difficulty spike and rinse repeat for more pp. I'd like to say it's not the best route in the long run if you are looking to improve though. The idea being that you can always come back once you are comfortable with the difficulty level of the spikes and churn out a bunch of fcs in a short period of time and already have a head start on even harder maps.
Rilene
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Joined April 2014
Rilene

Keihyan wrote:

Sirade wrote:

Play extra diffs with HT to get used with wide/slow jumps.
Is practicing slow jump a helpful?
Technically, yes, to get used to a wide jumps, but of course, play it slowly first until you got used to wide jumps.
Infevo
463 posts
Joined October 2014
Infevo

Clappy wrote:

Infevo wrote:

AR9 + HT + HR = AR9

AR9 + HT + HR = AR8.5
stfu

AR Table



Redon wrote:

Infevo wrote:

chord progressions/arpeggioes/etc.
You press two buttons

Maybe my example for the ignorant, rather unable to think for themselves, people was a little off. Instead, let's just take percussionists for example. Maybe this gets closer to osu! so people don't have to use their brains too much to get my point... You still need tons of coordination. And we are not simply talking about hitting buttons at the right time but doing so in syncronization with your aim.
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