woo it's awesome!
thank you for making something for me to farm other than pp
thank you for making something for me to farm other than pp
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This is really cool, but I do have a couple triple of irks with the stamina/tenacity stats:
* It doesn't seem to be rated as high as agility. It's kind of arbitrary, but basically the numbers are lower than equivalent agility scores. An FC on Kuchizuke Diamond DT nets you 1064 agility points, but Rlsc's score on Fascination MAXX (EZDT, 300 bpm longstreams) only gets 846 for stamina. As far as I know, there's no acc or EZ weighting, so theoretically this would even be the same with a DT-only FC-- maybe give a couple more since he missed right at the end.
* Fast small bursts seem to be overrated. Luv-Lab-Poison 22ate! on the Lethal difficulty with DT, for example, gets you 790 stamina points, which I believe is one of the highest scores currently achieved on there. However, there are only a few 5 note bursts at 340bpm. Very fast, but they require little effort to get past. Another example of this is Breakthrough Atmosphere; 763 for an FC.
* There's also no weighting for OD and accuracy. Not sure how this would be approached though since an 89% score could be slightly overstreamed/wrong offset, or understreamed to the point of near-failure. (totally not trying to save my own low-acc ass) You'd have to tread carefully there. However, maybe EZ and fixed OD should be worth a little less.
Keep it up though, it's fun having two things to farm now (which sometimes link into each other!!! Xddddddd)
* It doesn't seem to be rated as high as agility. It's kind of arbitrary, but basically the numbers are lower than equivalent agility scores. An FC on Kuchizuke Diamond DT nets you 1064 agility points, but Rlsc's score on Fascination MAXX (EZDT, 300 bpm longstreams) only gets 846 for stamina. As far as I know, there's no acc or EZ weighting, so theoretically this would even be the same with a DT-only FC-- maybe give a couple more since he missed right at the end.
* Fast small bursts seem to be overrated. Luv-Lab-Poison 22ate! on the Lethal difficulty with DT, for example, gets you 790 stamina points, which I believe is one of the highest scores currently achieved on there. However, there are only a few 5 note bursts at 340bpm. Very fast, but they require little effort to get past. Another example of this is Breakthrough Atmosphere; 763 for an FC.
* There's also no weighting for OD and accuracy. Not sure how this would be approached though since an 89% score could be slightly overstreamed/wrong offset, or understreamed to the point of near-failure. (totally not trying to save my own low-acc ass) You'd have to tread carefully there. However, maybe EZ and fixed OD should be worth a little less.
Keep it up though, it's fun having two things to farm now (which sometimes link into each other!!! Xddddddd)
dude just compare rlsc's scores with mine, SUCH BULLSHIT.Microsoft Vista wrote:
This is really cool, but I do have a couple of irks with the stamina/tenacity stats:
* It doesn't seem to be rated as high as agility. It's kind of arbitrary, but basically the numbers are lower than equivalent agility scores. An FC on Kuchizuke Diamond DT nets you 1064 agility points, but Rlsc's score on Fascination MAXX (EZDT, 300 bpm longstreams) only gets 846 for stamina. As far as I know, there's no acc or EZ weighting, so theoretically this would even be the same with a DT-only FC-- maybe give a couple more since he missed right at the end.
* Fast small bursts seem to be overrated. Luv-Lab-Poison 22ate! on the Lethal difficulty, for example, with DT gets you 790 stamina points, which I believe is one of the highest scores currently achieved on there. However, there are only a few 5 note bursts at 340bpm. Very fast, but they require little effort to get past. Another example of this is Breakthrough Atmosphere; 763 for an FC.
Keep it up though, it's fun having two things to farm now (which sometimes link into each other!!! Xddddddd)
You forgot to mention that it doesn't take OD into account!
ok i edited it to appease the momXII wrote:
dude just compare rlsc's scores with mine, SUCH BULLSHIT.Microsoft Vista wrote:
This is really cool, but I do have a couple of irks with the stamina/tenacity stats:
* It doesn't seem to be rated as high as agility. It's kind of arbitrary, but basically the numbers are lower than equivalent agility scores. An FC on Kuchizuke Diamond DT nets you 1064 agility points, but Rlsc's score on Fascination MAXX (EZDT, 300 bpm longstreams) only gets 846 for stamina. As far as I know, there's no acc or EZ weighting, so theoretically this would even be the same with a DT-only FC-- maybe give a couple more since he missed right at the end.
* Fast small bursts seem to be overrated. Luv-Lab-Poison 22ate! on the Lethal difficulty, for example, with DT gets you 790 stamina points, which I believe is one of the highest scores currently achieved on there. However, there are only a few 5 note bursts at 340bpm. Very fast, but they require little effort to get past. Another example of this is Breakthrough Atmosphere; 763 for an FC.
Keep it up though, it's fun having two things to farm now (which sometimes link into each other!!! Xddddddd)
You forgot to mention that it doesn't take OD into account!
Good little gnomeMicrosoft Vista wrote:
ok i edited it to appease the mom
Also could you add a profile link on our osu skills profile so we can easily check players out without having to copy their names? Just a small thing to make stuff easier.
Keeping on the never-ending trend of suggesting shit, it'd be cool being able to list players by titles, sorted by their primary stat or alphabetically or whatever
Oh that's a good one and while we're at it can you kert tell us what the actual difference between Stamina and Tenacity is?Microsoft Vista wrote:
Keeping on the never-ending trend of suggesting shit, it'd be cool being able to list players by titles, sorted by their primary stat or alphabetically or whatever
From what I can tell it seems that Stamina is based on speed of tapping and for how long for everything in the song while Tenacity seems to be ONLY streaming acc and speed.XII wrote:
Oh that's a good one and while we're at it can you kert tell us what the actual difference between Stamina and Tenacity is?Microsoft Vista wrote:
Keeping on the never-ending trend of suggesting shit, it'd be cool being able to list players by titles, sorted by their primary stat or alphabetically or whatever
Also, I am apparently I am Adventurous and Agility (Raw Aim) and Tenacity (Streaming) are my strong suits based on the higher numbers.
Edit: Also can confirm I think I already like this more then score v2 kek.
LOL true, this might be why stamina section doesn't take acc into account at all.Laura_Bodewig wrote:
From what I can tell it seems that Stamina is based on speed of tapping and for how long for everything in the song while Tenacity seems to be ONLY streaming acc and speed.
Also, I am apparently I am Adventurous and Agility (Raw Aim) and Tenacity (Streaming) are my strong suits based on the higher numbers.
Edit: Also can confirm I think I already like this more then score v2 kek.
I'm almost #1 country in 3 categories while my pp is #6
Funny thing how here im ranked around 10k for everything and yet by peppy im 40k 
Not every player is in their database of course, the numbers are only really accurate (compared to global ranking) for top 1000 or so of each stat.HK_ wrote:
Funny thing how here im ranked around 10k for everything and yet by peppy im 40k
Thats lame...but i still like it way more than peppy system
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I will take a look at this. Something tells me that it's the 1st one that is overrated. Btw, tell me if the 2nd one looks fine in comparison with your other higher Memory scores.silmarilen wrote:
Why is this map rated so highly with memory? i get more fomr a dthrfl on that than a hddtfl on this one While the first map was a sightread and the 2nd one took me over 100 tries.
Do you mean links to official osu! profiles? If yes - it's planned. If you mean links to osu!Skills profile - your username on the profile page contains the link.XII wrote:
Also could you add a profile link on our osu skills profile so we can easily check players out without having to copy their names? Just a small thing to make stuff easier.
Maybe.Microsoft Vista wrote:
Keeping on the never-ending trend of suggesting shit, it'd be cool being able to list players by titles, sorted by their primary stat or alphabetically or whatever
Wrong.Laura_Bodewig wrote:
From what I can tell it seems that Stamina is based on speed of tapping and for how long for everything in the song while Tenacity seems to be ONLY streaming acc and speed.
Tenacity doesn't care about accuracy. Tenacity only rates the longest / fastest streams in the maps.
Stamina is based on how much you have to tap / how fast and gives more points if you have to do it often / for longer periods of time.
You can go and enter all users above your osu! pp rank in our site to fill the database if you want : )HK_ wrote:
Thats lame...but i still like it way more than peppy system
I have no idea how but id gladly help.Kert wrote:
You can go and enter all users above your osu! pp rank in our site to fill the database if you want : )
2nd one feels like it's in the right place imo.Kert wrote:
I will take a look at this. Something tells me that it's the 1st one that is overrated. Btw, tell me if the 2nd one looks fine in comparison with your other higher Memory scores.silmarilen wrote:
Why is this map rated so highly with memory? i get more fomr a dthrfl on that than a hddtfl on this one While the first map was a sightread and the 2nd one took me over 100 tries.
Wow, I didn't know tenacity didn't escalate with accuracy, does stamina do? Actually... all the information is surprising to me xDKert wrote:
Tenacity doesn't care about accuracy. Tenacity only rates the longest / fastest streams in the maps.
Stamina is based on how much you have to tap / how fast and gives more points if you have to do it often / for longer periods of time.
I think tenacity should escalate just very slightly, just so players (FC) with 100% acc can have that 1 point of score over 99%, and 2 points over 97%, and 3 points over 94%, and so on... so they can realize they were actually better or worse than someone else on that beatmap.
Idk how much accuracy escalates on stamina, or if it doesn't escalates at all, but imo stamina needs to be escalated more than "very slightly" (but not that much though). When I'm playing full streams maps, like tower of heaven, my accuracy keeps dropping at the end, even if I fc it.
It's just a suggestion, as I have no idea which kind of impact this would have on osuskills...
My speed score that is worth like 740 stamina is the same amount as someone with 5% lower acc AND someone with EZ DT same acc.snyviper wrote:
Wow, I didn't know tenacity didn't escalate with accuracy, does stamina do? Actually... all the information is surprising to me xDKert wrote:
Tenacity doesn't care about accuracy. Tenacity only rates the longest / fastest streams in the maps.
Stamina is based on how much you have to tap / how fast and gives more points if you have to do it often / for longer periods of time.
I think tenacity should escalate just very slightly, just so players (FC) with 100% acc can have that 1 point of score over 99%, and 2 points over 97%, and 3 points over 94%, and so on... so they can realize they were actually better or worse than someone else on that beatmap.
Idk how much accuracy escalates on stamina, or if it doesn't escalates at all, but imo stamina needs to be escalated more than "very slightly" (but not that much though). When I'm playing full streams maps, like tower of heaven, my accuracy keeps dropping at the end, even if I fc it.
It's just a suggestion, as I have no idea which kind of impact this would have on osuskills...
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It's the other way around - accuracy escalates with tenacity a bit.snyviper wrote:
Wow, I didn't know tenacity didn't escalate with accuracy, does stamina do? Actually... all the information is surprising to me xD
I love you.Kert wrote:
Meanwhile, a new update appears.
Country rankings added!
You can also see country / global ranks in player profiles.
Also everything is clickable so you can easily navigate from profiles to country / global rankings to specific pages where you are placed.
Keep in mind that if a player was never checked on the site before it can take up to 10 minutes for him to appear in the rankings.
Which are the differences between Ambitious and Versatile? theorically both of these means that your 4 stats stamina/tenacity/agility/accuracy are ballanced, but I don't find any logical difference between Vesatile or Ambitous.
Another thing is that I don't understand at all the dicfferences between stamina and tenacity. Due it's very common that players that have one of these really high will have the another high as well. Out of this, I don't understand how could be possible to see a Frantic tittle. I've seen some few Adamant players, but I have not yet seen any Frantic player.
Apart some tittles are too strange to see, on a system like ppv2 which favours mainly Spirited, Swift and Berserk players because really high acc over high aim requirements is what gives most pp on here (berserks ocasionally have good acc on low OD maps, so for osu!skills that's low acc but for ppv2 isn't that low). So this means that is how I don't see possible seing a player with Fearless banner (which requires low agility compared to the other 3 stats).
As a sugestion, I would recommend to raise stamina value on long combo maps that aren't too easy meanwhile leaving tenacity for maps with heavy streams around the song (example, pernicious develiet).
Another thing is that I don't understand at all the dicfferences between stamina and tenacity. Due it's very common that players that have one of these really high will have the another high as well. Out of this, I don't understand how could be possible to see a Frantic tittle. I've seen some few Adamant players, but I have not yet seen any Frantic player.
Apart some tittles are too strange to see, on a system like ppv2 which favours mainly Spirited, Swift and Berserk players because really high acc over high aim requirements is what gives most pp on here (berserks ocasionally have good acc on low OD maps, so for osu!skills that's low acc but for ppv2 isn't that low). So this means that is how I don't see possible seing a player with Fearless banner (which requires low agility compared to the other 3 stats).
As a sugestion, I would recommend to raise stamina value on long combo maps that aren't too easy meanwhile leaving tenacity for maps with heavy streams around the song (example, pernicious develiet).
Topic Starter
It didn't reach your top PP so it will update when global scoreboard top update happens - in about 2 days.
Ahh, I see. Thanks for the quick answer 
Topic Starter
No problem. We may soon have everything updated in real-time with more scores than just top100 scores (if everything goes well)
ohoho
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Idea
Adding a hover for description on titles, so you don't have to go to the FAQ to find out their meaning.
Or just link every description to the FAQ
Adding a hover for description on titles, so you don't have to go to the FAQ to find out their meaning.
Or just link every description to the FAQ
Not sure if this had been mentioned, but I noticed that precision doesn't scale well with BPM. I know this is a bit subjective, but I think this is why newer HR maps weight so little compared to old high CS stuff, or why my speed of link HTHR score is so high up there.
Edit: in comparison, a HR fc on that speed of link diff only gives 28 points more:
Edit: in comparison, a HR fc on that speed of link diff only gives 28 points more:
Would be nice to see how it would work with any global rank that anyone has, would make least common tittles more common.
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That's all pretty subjective but it'll be tweaked at some point._verto_ wrote:
Not sure if this had been mentioned, but I noticed that precision doesn't scale well with BPM. I know this is a bit subjective, but I think this is why newer HR maps weight so little compared to old high CS stuff, or why my speed of link HTHR score is so high up there.
Edit: in comparison, a HR fc on that speed of link diff only gives 28 points more:
Please, rephase. I don't understand what you mean.ReynBolt wrote:
Would be nice to see how it would work with any global rank that anyone has, would make least common tittles more common.
That's cool, just keep in mind that the same map with 3/4 its speed worths only 5% less precision points right now.Kert wrote:
That's all pretty subjective but it'll be tweaked at some point.
hi just wanna ask because i am really keen into this but are you maybe planning on making a mobile app version?
Why? Just go on the website using your mobile deviceRyanGBW wrote:
hi just wanna ask because i am really keen into this but are you maybe planning on making a mobile app version?
just curious thats all. :3abraker wrote:
Why? Just go on the website using your mobile deviceRyanGBW wrote:
hi just wanna ask because i am really keen into this but are you maybe planning on making a mobile app version?
No, a mobile version is not planned and might never be planned.
Topic Starter
Mobile version of the website is planned. Not the app though.
If this happens, I'm going to start seriously farming HRHDDTFL for Memory points.Kert wrote:
No problem. We may soon have everything updated in real-time with more scores than just top100 scores (if everything goes well)
ohoho
Topic Starter
How long are the streams?
Afaik airman has a part with multiple long consecutive streams without breaks
I don't remember other maps
Afaik airman has a part with multiple long consecutive streams without breaks
I don't remember other maps