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- Zekia -
Nice update, but you need to show the meaning of every title in the site :p
also what means Adventurous?
Midnaait
Any news for the rest of the gamemodes?
Poncho
Please make title infographic soon. Thank you
abraker

Midnaait wrote:

Any news for the rest of the gamemodes?
Let's get the reading skill done first, k?
KrazyKaito
So is there a summary for titles? Like what does Berserk mean for this?
Gigo

KrazyKaito wrote:

So is there a summary for titles? Like what does Berserk mean for this?
Come on, man... Berserk specifically was mentioned in the previous page.
thgilretfa

emanfman wrote:

I'm very disappointed with the accuracy calculation... it lists me as berserk but my global acc is above 99%. Please reconsider some stuff in that formula!
it calculate od of songs that you play, not overall accuracy that you have
you can farm accuracy at od0 map and have 100% overall accuracy, but it doesn't mean, that you good at acc
Defacer
So far the titles I have found are:
ambitious
spirited
sage
perceptive
adventurous
sharpshooter
versatile
berserk
swift
volatile
pirate
frantic
sturdy
fearless
adamant
volcanic
furious
and special title i think - developer

Total of 18, so according to Kert, 9 are still unknown to me, has anyone found something?
Gigo
Hmm... maybe some titles can't be seen yet, because nobody has them? I don't know, I'm just speculating. I'll keep searching though. So far, I can't find anything different than the list above me.
Topic Starter
Kert
Wow that's some good research out there
Keep in mind that a portion (5) of "unknown titles" are related to Reading skill
And some of your titles may transform into another ones if you read well
Yuudachi-kun
Neat, I got versatile. I do have a question about the scores. Take what I have in the tapping stamina category. http://osuskills.tk/user/Khelly/skill/stamina

Why is Halozy - Little Summer Party (Takos) [Lunatic] +DT (93.6%) so low on this list? This is a very hard map to actually tap at certain points - I still fail it even though I have an fc. The top 5 in this category are all stream maps. Uroboros is hard to tap, I'll give it that. But Sayonara superstar, faith for transient people, stop, and especially kimi no hitomi are complete jokes in regards to tapping. At least comparing them to Little Summer Party.

If you go to the tenacity page, Summer Party is actually much higher in placement which doesn't seem to fit in with the "stream stamina". It especially pales in comparison to maps like Voice and second darkside.

Am I missing something? Do I have these definitions wrong?
Defacer
Here is what I came up with. The "x" symbol represents unknown titles that exist for sure. Where "x" stands i think it's very unlikely to see a player with that title, because stamina and tenacity are very similar, it's almost impossible to find someone who has a lot of stamina but no tenacity & vice versa. The total number of titles + possible titles in this list is 25, so I am missing 2. The ones which are in italic and have a "?" are a bit questionable, probably not what they represent(correct me plz). Can't think of anything else =/

STAMINA/TENACITY/AGILITY/ACCURACY

swift - agility
perceptive - accuracy
x - tenacity
x - stamina
sturdy - accuracy + stamina
volcanic - stamina+tenacity
spirited - agility+accuracy
adventurous - tenacity + agility
furious - agility + stamina ?
adamant - tenacity + accuracy ?
berserk - agility+stamina+tenacity
volatile - agility + tenacity + accuracy
fearless - accuracy+stamina+tenacity
frantic - agility+stamina+acc ?
versatile - balanced ?
ambitious - balanced but weaker ?

MEMORY/PRECISION/READING

sage - memory
sharpshooter - precision
pirate - memory + precision
+5 unknown, yet to be seen after reading skill implementation

SPECIAL

developer
Gigo
Damn, you sure have given this a lot of thought! Very detailed list.

Something bugs me though. There are people, who are "Versatile Pirate". If I go by your table, that must mean that they are balanced players, who excel in memory and precision. However, their table shows that precision is actually their least developed skill. Here is an example: http://osuskills.tk/user/BluOxy

Now, I don't have a problem with your definition of "versatile", but I think "pirate" must mean something else.
Yuudachi-kun
I think versatile is based on just having a certain number of stats near in value because my precision, accuracy, and memory aren't nearly up there to be considered equal.
Gigo
I don't think Memory is taken into account for "Versatile". I've seen people with 0 Memory who have that title.
abraker

Defacer wrote:

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Wow you took this seriously and we appreciate your effort! Out of all of these, most are spot on. You are also missing several, so good luck hunting for the rest!
Defacer

abraker wrote:

Defacer wrote:

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Wow you took this seriously and we appreciate your effort! Out of all of these, there is something wrong. You are also missing several, so good luck hunting for the rest!
The wrong one just has to be frantic! I couldn't find the one guy who had it and I just slapped it on a random combination that was left unused. Also I am wondering if there are existing players with the missing titles, they have to be extremely rare. For information, of all the players that I checked, only 1 had the title frantic.

As for the the versatile pirate thing. First title is calculated based on stamina/tenacity/accuracy/agility, second title on the rest and they have no connection between and that's why you can have both. Of course there is a third title, but that's extremely exclusive haha.
Fateburn


Just noticed that Taiwan is called as a province of China here, this really is something we don't like tbh
Yuudachi-kun
Taiwan hasn't officially drclared Independence from china as they are really just a rebelling province of the prc.
Topic Starter
Kert
Let's not talk politics here.
I just got it from some site with the list of countries and their abbreviations
Wikipedia doesn't mention this wording anywhere so I'll change it to just Taiwan.
Index
Bug on memory skills..?
Lybydose : TERRA - Dance Dance Revolution NON STOP MEGAMIX (James) [Marathon] +FL (98.93%) 778
thregium : TERRA - Dance Dance Revolution NON STOP MEGAMIX (James) [Marathon] +HTFL (96.9%) 1012
Topic Starter
Kert
Do you have a FC? Because Lybydose doesn't
zhuxiaoyan
I think playstyles should account in someway, I don't have an idea yet, but you should incorporate playstyles.
azer467
can is ask in which rate the top 100 plays for a profile updates ?
Remyria

azer467 wrote:

can is ask in which rate the top 100 plays for a profile updates ?
top 100 per map update every week
Gigo


Uhmm, this doesn't look right. Both are FCs, so why is the easier version worth more points?!
Topic Starter
Kert
There's more parts (sheer amount of) in that Normal when combos are spaced apart?
HakuRyuu-
Hello, is it possible to have an ETA for when the title infographic will come out? Even though people already did some research and explained them to some extent, it would still be nice to have official info that's 100% real. Even if some of the titles aren't obtainable yet due to reading skills not being released, you could add the ones that are obtainable at the moment.
snyviper
XD let them work on the reading stuff. The inforgraphic will come out when everything's ready. I know it wouldn't take long to make it, but I think it's more interesting this way, people are researching, excited, and using their app. We all are winning for now. Just imagine how cool it will be when all the information about the titles, the true information, is officially released... It will be awesome to compare what we found out with what is real :)
snyviper
Btw, do you think it's possible to add spin skills? They're not much of a value in osu!, i know... but it's still very rewarding when you get to spin at 460+ rpm :D
abraker

snyviper wrote:

Btw, do you think it's possible to add spin skills? They're not much of a value in osu!, i know... but it's still very rewarding when you get to spin at 460+ rpm :D
I can say that there is no point in general, but I will rather say there is no point in doing it now. First, peppy plans to change how spinners work, second the /api/get_scores command doesn't return spin speed, so there is no way of knowing without replays. I'll leave it to kert or someone else to say why (or why not =.=) spinners skills is useless idea.
meatslab
You've said the top 100 scores are updated weekly, but the website says it was last updated 8 days ago, going on 9 now. http://puu.sh/mRzul/23e4112897.png

I figured the update would be automated, is it not or did something go wrong with it? Any idea when the next update will be?
Topic Starter
Kert
Something went wrong, it's updating right now.
meatslab
Awesome, I'm amazed at how quickly you replied! Spent the last few days playing a ton of old maps and some FL so I can't wait to see my Precision and Memory after the update, Thanks!
snyviper
Oh, I didn't know peppy planned to change how spinners work... Is it in the forums? Or... Where is it? xD I tried to find but I couldn't...
Yeah, I really think reading skill is much more important than everything else for now xD it was said it was very complicated, so... I wish you all good luck o/
I also think spin skill is not useless because it's fun xD but if it's not possible, can't do anything about that... But once I know what kind of changes are gonna happen to the spinners, I might have some ideas... But maybe not xD
Anyway, every suggestion is important for you, I think, so... I hope to be helping somehow xD
TheLukay
Berserk is already my favourite title. It's perfect for me XD
[Polybius]
I cant wait for a thing that says what the titles are for.


Love the site btw looks nice, works great, thanks for the hard work put in on it! Can't wait to see what you guys have in store for it in the future.
Yuudachi-kun

ShaftamusPrime wrote:

I cant wait for a thing that says what the titles are for.
I switched from versatile to berserk. :o
Deva
Adventurous

Not like i dont know why i got this one >_>
snyviper
Well... About the titles, I've been making some graphs lately from my skills. I made 3 graphs in pentagon style (which was suggested here), and I noticed something it seems nobody else here did.

The first graph is about the skills the way they are shown in the site, for each player, it's also displayed on the rankings. I named it "Classic Measurement".
http://prntscr.com/9yudjw

The second graph is about the top play from each skill. You can see the highest points by clicking on the skill link from the player. I named it "Top Measurement".
http://prntscr.com/9yufbf

The third graph is about the ranking each of your skills were. You can find it if you look on the right page of the global ranking pages (it's in descending order, so it's easy to find). I named it "Rank Measurement".
http://prntscr.com/9yuhru

I noticed a huge difference from the 1st/2nd ones to the 3rd one. And by doing this, I found out that I really excel in accuracy, in relation to other players, and not in agility/tenacity, as the 1st and 2nd graphs suggest. Kert himself said we should compare our skills to other players to know if it's good or not, so I think the titles shouldn't be about the Classic Measurement, but the Rank Measurement. People would get more appropriate titles this way, like... I received Adventurous, which means best in tenacity+agility, but I should have received perceptive, which means best in accuracy (according to Defacer). I've been using the "Rank measurement" most when someone asks me to make them a graph, because I think it's more precise on the players skills.

Oh, and there would also have a bigger diversity on the titles, since now there are very rare and common titles, because agility is like almost always one of the highest skills.

What do you guys think?
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