Database problems, will be fixed soon

Soooo, when do you reopen

Seems like site is down, hopefully fixed soon?

some of my recent scores have been submitted automatically, but i'm wondering if manual submission is still down...? i haven't been able to submit my scores on b/139603 and b/2546844

I successfully managed to add the second map


Try filling in beatmap id in map id

So the updating on my profile is very inconsistent with my scores, yesterday I got a choke on this https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/1160488#osu/2635266 which submitted but then when I FCd today with a lot better acc it didn't detect and submit the score when I tried updating, so I'm stuck with the choke.
Same on this one https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/593496#osu/1255605 but vice versa I got an FC first, it never submitted then I got a bad score on it today and it did submit that one.

amandarito wrote:

abraker wrote:

anyone else having issues with scores not being updated?

yes, even when manually submit

Yeah that happens to me as well

is there any way i can know how much this score would give in precision? i can't submit it due to scorev1

You still haven't adjusted the scores to the rankings, despite it being as simple as dividing every score by the average value.

Here to both ask for news and possible assistance but also give a suggestion. I still have problems manually submitting scores and it also has troubles detecting my scores even in recent plays. Yesterday I got a precision fc on cs7.15 which it didn’t register on the site but it registered B ranks and other plays I got in multi lobby that literally gave me no points in any stat. Any news on the problem or is it unknown?

Also a suggestion, someone might have already mentioned this but it would be cool to see a ranking leaderboard where you can sort after titles (aka combinations of skills). It’s cool and all to see the person with the highest precision but I want to see the ones with a lot of points while both having maybe lots of precision and high AR (sniper) and see who’s the best player there. This would exist for all titles though and it would be simple to calculate the highest players just take the average between the stats for that specific title. It might be hard to implement though, I wouldn’t know.

goink wrote:

is there any way i can know how much this score would give in precision? i can't submit it due to scorev1

You can run the map through the skill calculator found here https://github.com/Kert/osuSkillsGUI/releases/tag/1.0

kingautist wrote:

You still haven't adjusted the scores to the rankings, despite it being as simple as dividing every score by the average value.

What do you mean by "adjusted the scores to the rankings"?

Sebbebro wrote:

I still have problems manually submitting scores and it also has troubles detecting my scores even in recent plays. Yesterday I got a precision fc on cs7.15 which it didn’t register on the site but it registered B ranks and other plays I got in multi lobby that literally gave me no points in any stat. Any news on the problem or is it unknown?

Is the missing score your best score? If it's not it won't register.

Sebbebro wrote:

Also a suggestion, someone might have already mentioned this but it would be cool to see a ranking leaderboard where you can sort after titles (aka combinations of skills).

there is a shit ton of things to add but years go by without them being added

abraker wrote:

goink wrote:

is there any way i can know how much this score would give in precision? i can't submit it due to scorev1

You can run the map through the skill calculator found here https://github.com/Kert/osuSkillsGUI/releases/tag/1.0

I don't know if the issue is noted already, but when HR is applied to a map the CS will always cap out at 7, when in-game it caps out at 10. When calculating nomod on maps with cs>7, it seems to work fine - but adding HR will set the CS on those maps to 7, even if the base CS is higher than 7 (in the case of this screenshot, the base map is cs7.5 and was ranked last week).

The vast majority of worthwhile scores to attempt to gain precision from are cs7.8+, so this is very impractical for that stat in particular

edit: sidenote for what i said before - i ended up fixing the accuracy and submitting that score, so nevermind on that front

@Sebbebro not sure what it was, but after restarting it seems to work correctly now. I am talking about two precision results you weren't able to submit

Kert wrote:

@Sebbebro not sure what it was, but after restarting it seems to work correctly now. I am talking about two precision results you weren't able to submit

It's true, they're on my profile now, tysm! Also since yesterday I've been able to manually submit other plays. Which I couldn't before so it's looking better now I think.

[quote="abraker"]Is the missing score your best score? If it's not it won't register.
I always consider that since I've noticed it happening before. I never try to submit a score unless it's my highest on the map. But the problem has been fixed now so thx to both of you

goink wrote:

I don't know if the issue is noted already, but when HR is applied to a map the CS will always cap out at 7, when in-game it caps out at 10. When calculating nomod on maps with cs>7, it seems to work fine - but adding HR will set the CS on those maps to 7, even if the base CS is higher than 7 (in the case of this screenshot, the base map is cs7.5 and was ranked last week).

If you add HR, you are telling it to change CS and OD. HR is calculated the same as nomod just with increased CS and OD. So if you don't want it changing values on you, set it to nomod and change them manually

abraker wrote:

What do you mean by "adjusted the scores to the rankings"?

I said what I mean, divide every score by the average score of the given skill.

Im having problems with score submission. I set scores on this map beatmapsets/620982#osu/1322221 and this map beatmapsets/652412#osu/1383389 with HTHR (which I guess may or may not be supposed to submit, I have other hthr scores that arent my top on the map but idk) and after trying to manually submit the first one and just doing the second one again neither of them went through.

kingautist wrote:

abraker wrote:

What do you mean by "adjusted the scores to the rankings"?

I said what I mean, divide every score by the average score of the given skill.

You mean to make skills not have high number they do now?

Zerkala_ wrote:

Im having problems with score submission. I set scores on this map beatmapsets/620982#osu/1322221 and this map beatmapsets/652412#osu/1383389 with HTHR (which I guess may or may not be supposed to submit, I have other hthr scores that arent my top on the map but idk) and after trying to manually submit the first one and just doing the second one again neither of them went through.

Are they high scores, top 500, or in your top pp?

abraker wrote:

Are they high scores, top 500, or in your top pp?

the first one isnt so that would be that I guess but this one beatmapsets/620982#osu/1322221 is #44 on the map and isnt showing up

It doesn't work for me.

abraker wrote:

You mean to make skills not have high number they do now?

No. For example, my agility is 209 (rank 300453) and my memory is 16 (rank 20456). My memory should be higher than my agility because my memory is at a higher rank than my agility, same for all the other skills.

I understand that might not appeal to everyone, but I'd love to have an option to remove scores older than a few months. Sometimes I stop playing for a long while and when I come back those old scores no longer reflect my ability.

Hi. I have a question.
What is the difference between
the ambitious and the versatile
describtion?

One is higher skill than the other. Ambitious > versatile

abraker wrote:

One is higher skill than the other. Ambitious > versatile

Alright thx

Manual submission borked? Not working for me.

This feels like something that should've been asked a hundred times before, so I'm sorry if it is, but it isn't in the FAQ and I can't find it in any earlier forum replies (though I can't be assed to look through all 1500):

Has there ever been any plans to add an overall number of the sum of all a player's skills, both on player profiles and on a ranking page?

I feel like it'd really be cool to see a page that shows player ranking in a table showing each individual skill and then sorting by a "total" column.


Also, I really think you should add like a 0.75x multiplier to all the Agility scores. Agility is basically everyone's highest score value regardless of if they are a jump or stream player whereas all the other skills seem to make sense in which ones are higher relative to one another in profiles


Edit: Also, I feel like you should do something to separate flow aim and speed streams. Currently, very high BPM stream players dominate both Stamina and Tenacity with basically exactly the same result, with the best flow aim players being nowhere to be seen. idke, for example, is not even top 200 for tenacity, despite being one of the players most would probably think of when asked who the best stream players are.

I feel like removing one of Stamina and Tenacity to replace with a skill for flow aim would make more sense - currently it feels like the same skill is being accounted for twice with flow aim being a skill not accounted for at all.

Purplegaze wrote:

Has there ever been any plans to add an overall number of the sum of all a player's skills, both on player profiles and on a ranking page?

Nope, added to the list.

How exactly does training work. I see there are presets and you can make certain skills blue and have a 2nd bar to adjust. is this target score? What happens if you don't have any skill selected?

nmi5 wrote:

How exactly does training work. I see there are presets and you can make certain skills blue and have a 2nd bar to adjust. is this target score? What happens if you don't have any skill selected?

Have you tried using it?

abraker wrote:

nmi5 wrote:

How exactly does training work. I see there are presets and you can make certain skills blue and have a 2nd bar to adjust. is this target score? What happens if you don't have any skill selected?

Have you tried using it?

Yes i have. I just want to know how to set it to train streams or acc in particular rather than see some jumpo maps it think i could improve aim with
How do you set certain skills basically.

Presets are enabling just the related skills and disabling others. The +% buttons seem to behave as defaults settings /shrug

Honestly I recommend enabling each skill and using slider to tune it manually. For streams and acc tune Stamina, Tenacity, and Accuracy to your skill level range. You should tune other skills to be a bit lower so those three skill you do care about dominate more.

Something like this:

Purplegaze wrote:

Also, I really think you should add like a 0.75x multiplier to all the Agility scores. Agility is basically everyone's highest score value regardless of if they are a jump or stream player

I proposed that scores be divided by their average value to correct this, but abraker was too dumb to understand.

kingautist wrote:

Purplegaze wrote:

Also, I really think you should add like a 0.75x multiplier to all the Agility scores. Agility is basically everyone's highest score value regardless of if they are a jump or stream player

I proposed that scores be divided by their average value to correct this, but abraker was too dumb to understand.

Dividing by the average wouldn't solve all problems, since also the distribution between different skills is different.

A better solution is having the displayed skill values be a function of the percentile of each value among all players for each individual skill.

kingautist wrote:

Purplegaze wrote:

Also, I really think you should add like a 0.75x multiplier to all the Agility scores. Agility is basically everyone's highest score value regardless of if they are a jump or stream player

I proposed that scores be divided by their average value to correct this, but abraker was too dumb to understand.

Slapping 0.75x or any constant value even for one skill is a bandaid solution that will work for maybe a year. The skill curve for agility shoots up like a damn cliff as you approach top 1000, and gets exponentially steeper as the years go by.



I've been looking to making the skills linear for a few weeks now, but it's not as easy as I thought. Full Tablet, maybe you can give a hand?

abraker wrote:

Slapping 0.75x or any constant value even for one skill is a bandaid solution that will work for maybe a year. The skill curve for agility shoots up like a damn cliff as you approach top 1000, and gets exponentially steeper as the years go by.

I've been looking to making the skills linear for a few weeks now, but it's not as easy as I thought. Full Tablet, maybe you can give a hand?

If any skill goes up in the same nonlinear way that agility does, then it is sensible to adjust those skills to agility with a multiplier.

abraker wrote:

Slapping 0.75x or any constant value even for one skill is a bandaid solution that will work for maybe a year. The skill curve for agility shoots up like a damn cliff as you approach top 1000, and gets exponentially steeper as the years go by.



I've been looking to making the skills linear for a few weeks now, but it's not as easy as I thought. Full Tablet, maybe you can give a hand?

One way is looking at the Rank of each raw value instead of the raw value itself, and redefine the scale based on that. You could, for example, define that the top player has an overall value of 1000, a player in the median has an overall value of 500, and the worst player has an overall value of 0. (Basically, the overall value is just the percentile of the raw stat value of the player multiplied by 10). The problem with this approach is that it makes the values static over time.

One solution to the problem with the previous approach is storing the distribution of raw_values/scaled_values at some point of time, and then applying that same scaling to scores in the future. For example, if someone has a raw value of 600 in the 90th percentile (900 scaled value) at the start of the year 2021, and 2 years later someone has a raw value of 600 which is in the 80th percentile, they would still have a scaled value of 900.

When the values have to be interpolated (for raw values in the range of the population at the time when the scale was set), this is easy. But for extrapolating (for example, assigning a value to someone who has 2000 raw speed when the best player at the start of 2021 had only 1900), we have to have a model of the growth in the extremes of the distribution.

Now, the previous solution might become increasingly unwieldy as the algorithm changes, since new changes should try to keep the distribution of raw scores constant.

Now, with the previous solution, there is still the matter of balancing the individual skill values for each score (and that matters, because of the way the overall value of the skill is calculated). It might be better rescale the skill values of each play instead of the overall skill values. In that case, a way could be using the top 10 plays for each skill from each player, ranking all the plays, and then scaling the same way I suggested with the overall skill values.

Full Tablet wrote:

One way is looking at the Rank of each raw value instead of the raw value itself, and redefine the scale based on that.

Having the correct skill value be dependent on rank value is certainly NOT what we want as that would bind the correction to a specific snapshot in time. It will become as bad as it is now relatively soon after the corrections are made, so it would require to keep making indefinite corrections.

Full Tablet wrote:

One solution to the problem with the previous approach is storing the distribution of raw_values/scaled_values at some point of time, and then applying that same scaling to scores in the future.

This is probably what I have settled on doing as well, but you are probably complicating this with the percentile stuff. This idea sounds the same as modeling the curve via linear spline, and then running that spline through a transformation that changes the modeled function f -> g:



And then correct that linear:



This is what I am planning to do, but it's slightly tedious work. This should be more stable, and only start to falter if the shape of the curve changes. The help I need is with this tedious work, however.

Site is broken again? I improved one of my scores but it didn't update on the site, I manually submitted the map id and it still didn't update

Map is beatmapsets/46084#osu/143798