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KOAN Sound & Asa - Tetsuo's Redemption (Billain Remix)

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Charles445
Writing a mod would be too big / a huge mess...
So I'm tackling parts individually.
This post is literally a newcombo mod from 01:29:263 - to 02:58:282 -

New Combo Planning
Okay so new comboing in this song is going to be a lot more tricky than normal.
Usually white ticks and sometimes reds are the way to go, but this song has instruments on the blue ticks that just completely overpower the beats and take control of the mental metronome, if you get what I mean.
I'll give an example.

Starting at the first breakdown bit, new comboing starts off normally at 01:29:328 - .
Now theoretically the next NC would be at 01:30:724 - , but that's clearly not going to work as there really isn't anything going on at that point. Also, there's kinda a slider going over it...
So, that slider at 01:30:549 (1) - takes the priority, as that WUUUUU sound is basically what the player is paying attention to.
01:31:421 (3,1,2) - For here, this isn't going to work out as the blue tick isn't demanding any attention / power, it's best on the 3 slider before so it's (1,2,3)

01:32:119 - So here a tough decision has to be made regarding new combos.
Are the new combos going to follow the kicks in the music, or follow the woump woump woump noises.
The way it's currently built is following the woump noises, but inconsistently (01:32:817 (1) - and 01:34:212 (2) - are similar woump).
So here's the possible layouts.
Strictly following the kicks -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3978629 pretty good actually. Nothing compromised, ends up being on the white ticks as well. 01:34:474 (2) - Is technically a kick but a new combo on it would be needless.
Following the woump -> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3978663 Excluding the beginning, all the new combos are on the blue ticks. This pairs things up pretty well visually and is intuitive to play, albeit less intuitive than the previous example. 01:32:293 (2,1) - Serves as the bridge between the two NC styles. Note how the VERY NEXT PART, 01:37:875 (1,1) - , does that EXACT bridge. 01:34:474 (4,1) - The 4 slider is left without a new combo as a bridge back to normal.

So both work... for that part. As the song gets to bits like 01:48:863 - it becomes clear that it'll take too many exceptions to get working right.

So you're better off just going with the kicks, which will end up doing the woumps justice anyway.
The Actual NC Mod
NC fix changes.
01:31:421 (3) - Add NC
01:31:683 (1) - Remove NC
01:32:119 (5) - Add NC
01:32:293 (1) - Remove NC
01:33:253 (1) - Remove NC
01:33:514 (4) - Add NC
01:33:950 (1) - Remove NC
01:34:212 (4) - Add NC
01:34:386 (1) - Remove NC
01:34:910 (4) - Add NC
01:37:700 (4) - Add NC
01:37:875 (1) - Remove NC
01:38:136 (1) - Remove NC
01:38:398 (4) - Add NC
01:38:834 (1) - Remove NC
01:39:096 (4) - Add NC
01:39:532 (1) - Remove NC
01:39:793 (4) - Add NC
01:39:968 (1) - Remove NC
01:40:404 (1) - Remove NC
01:40:491 (5) - Add NC
01:41:189 (3) - Add NC
01:41:363 (1) - Remove NC
01:43:282 (3) - Add NC
01:43:456 (1) - Remove NC
01:45:026 (1) - Remove NC
01:45:375 (5) - Add NC
01:45:636 (1) - Remove NC
01:45:985 (1) - Remove NC
01:46:072 (4) - Add NC
01:49:822 (1) - Remove NC
01:49:910 (3) - Add NC
From this point on NC seems to be used for speed changes until 02:36:305 - .
The beat placement from 1:49 till then isn't great but this is focusing on NC right now.
02:37:003 (3) - Add NC
02:37:526 (1,1) - So this is a bit tricky. Ideally it's a (1,2) here but... the spacing is a bit small compared to this previous moment at 01:30:549 (1,2) - where it was clearly 1/2. I'd say remove the NC from 02:38:049 - and call it a day.
02:38:398 (3) - Add NC
02:38:660 (1) - Remove NC
02:39:096 (5) - Add NC
02:39:270 (1) - Remove NC
02:40:055 (1) - Remove NC
02:40:840 (1) - Remove NC
02:41:450 (1) - Remove NC
02:42:584 (3) - Add NC
02:44:677 (4) - Add NC
02:44:852 (1) - Remove NC
02:45:375 (4) - Add NC
02:45:636 (1) - Remove NC
02:46:770 (4) - Add NC
02:46:945 (1) - Remove NC
02:47:381 (1) - Remove NC
02:47:468 (5) - Add NC
Skipping 02:47:490 - to 02:50:171 - due to probably suggesting a beat placement overhaul later.
02:50:258 (3) - Add NC
02:50:433 (1) - Remove NC
02:50:956 (4) - Add NC
02:51:131 (1) - Remove NC
02:51:654 (5) - Add NC
02:52:003 (1) - Remove NC
02:52:352 (5) - Add NC
02:52:613 (1) - Remove NC

And that's it for now.
Truzon
That Allah Akbar though....
byfar
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byfar
god tier shit, gj boys


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12:18 Aiceo: byfar
12:18 Aiceo: sweetie
12:18 *Aiceo is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/779964 KOAN Sound & Asa - Tetsuo's Redemption (Billain Remix) [Redemption]]
12:18 Aiceo: i need 1 more mod
12:18 Aiceo: pls save me from the nothing i've become
12:18 byfar: WH
12:19 Aiceo: need
12:19 Aiceo: 1 more mod
12:19 Aiceo: can u
12:19 Aiceo: pls
12:19 Aiceo: ASPHYXIA WONT BUBB OTHERWISE
12:19 Aiceo: AND I CANT GET MORE MODS
12:19 byfar: my dick is 20 thousand inches long
12:19 byfar: i can irc
12:19 byfar: i dont wanna thread xd
12:19 Aiceo: mines 22
12:19 byfar: the whitue one
12:19 byfar: fucking kills me
12:19 byfar: like
12:19 Aiceo: can u
12:19 Aiceo: irc
12:19 Aiceo: and
12:19 Aiceo: ill apply
12:19 byfar: i can irc
12:20 Aiceo: ok just
12:20 Aiceo: send me everything
12:20 Aiceo: i need to go afk for like 30 mins
12:20 Aiceo: ill apply everything aftererer
12:33 Aiceo: ya asph gonna bubb today if u irc
12:33 Aiceo: anyways
12:33 Aiceo: afk
12:33 byfar: k
13:19 Aiceo: where's my
13:19 Aiceo: irc
13:19 Aiceo: ??
13:19 byfar: wait xd
13:27 byfar: 00:31:072 (2,3) - this gets quiet a little bit
13:27 byfar: u decreased spacing relative to the song sound before
13:27 byfar: so u should do the same here
13:28 byfar: 00:36:654 (2,3) - same
13:28 byfar: 00:54:096 (7,8,1) - pattern looks aids imo lol
13:29 byfar: 00:54:793 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - should do equal spacing hereimo
13:29 byfar: like as in distance between objects
13:29 byfar: so it looks consistent and steady
13:30 byfar: 00:57:933 (4,5,6,8,9,1) - looks like a gay orgy here
13:30 byfar: should increase the distance
13:30 byfar: between those objects
13:30 byfar: roughly the same distance as 00:56:538 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) -
13:31 byfar: between those quints and triplets
13:31 byfar: 00:48:165 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) -
13:31 byfar: same gay orgyh
13:32 byfar: 01:22:352 (1,2,3) - polarity issue
13:32 byfar: 01:21:218 (2,3) - ^
13:35 byfar: for @ rlc 02:38:049 (1) - FIX PLEASE
13:35 byfar: LOOKS UGLY
13:36 byfar: 03:45:549 (7,8) -
13:36 byfar: make it the fuckin same please
13:37 byfar: ones more tilted than the other
13:37 byfar: 03:47:468 (1) - THIS SLIDERS AIDS
13:40 byfar: 05:20:607 (1) - this slider could be better, i dont know about u tho
Topic Starter
Aiceo
go die byfar ty
Topic Starter
Aiceo
@Charles i did apply all the nc changes thanks
Asphyxia
ヾ(´▽`;)ゝGood luck!
Mint
Still looks good to me!
Bubble #2!
Nathan
ok
Bearizm

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00:50:084 (8,9,1) - manual stack intentional?

01:03:776 (6) - what's the emphasis behind this?

01:03:863 (7) - NC

01:36:305 (1) - change to a circle-1/2 slider?

02:05:607 (1,1) - highlight this 2 and move them to x484y104 for a smoother flow, along with the triangle pattern after it, i guess.

02:42:235 (2) - NC

02:42:758 (4) - NC (or 02:42:846 (5) - )

02:53:398 (2) - NC (there's a lot of SV changes that aren't NC'd imma just leave em off the mod from now)

02:57:410 (2) - ctrl+g for better emphasis (and gameplay) because this sounds louder than 02:57:584 (1) -

04:15:375 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - i literally cannot see anything here due to the overdone overlaps

wtf literally best mod EU

gratz btw!
Kalibe
gratz !
Hula
these hitsounds are everything.
Guy
Hello!

We have found some potential issues that we feel are important enough to address before continuing:

Redemption

Unsnapped slider
  1. 00:55:142 (6) - This slider end is unsnapped (1/12). Please snap to 1/4 00:55:229 - .

If you disagree with these suggestions, please reply to this thread justifying why so we can discuss alternatives.

Otherwise, please reply to this thread when these issues are resolved.

Thanks for working with us towards higher quality beatmaps, we hope to see your beatmap ranked soon!
Topic Starter
Aiceo
Totally my bad, updated.
Mint
#1!
Asphyxia
#2
Nathan
#3
Akiyama Mizuki
who's tetsuo
Charles445

bbj0920 wrote:

who's tetsuo
Sampled from this probably
grumd

Bonzi wrote:

- 01:19:474 (9,1) - 01:20:869 (10,1) - I feel like these two are really missing something. It felt way too weird playing them, i kind of assumed they were triplets because of all the stuff that comes before those (like 01:15:200 (11,12,1) - for example).

Aiceo wrote:

thanks dad i fixed mostly everything except some doubles who i think play just fine because i cant play xd
Why.
01:19:386 - This place really actually lacks a note, the music sound is exactly the same as the 01:19:474 - where you DID place a note. And more than that, you skipped the harder red tick here. There should definitely be a note at 01:19:386 -
> they play just fine because i cant play
Best reason I've heard in my life.

Other than that and a few other minor things, this is the best map I have ever seen. Just that stuff makes me a bit sad.
Topic Starter
Aiceo
i tried
Charrett
Can someone make a hard mode for this song please
cyprianz5
nice song but i hate the map tbh
i dont anymore i like it :)
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