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http://puu.sh/k63LC/27724f7d6d.osu , i believe offset is slightly off, like -5ms maybe.
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-Nao Tomori- wrote:

http://puu.sh/k63LC/27724f7d6d.osu , i believe offset is slightly off, like -5ms maybe.
I'm soo sorry ..
your pattern really need to improve so much
soo i guess to map all of song , really sooryy about this :(

I keep your mapset on thread..

really sorry :(

I'm gonna ask BN about the timing , thanks!
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23:45 [ Arika ]: Hi Pho..
23:45 [ Arika ]: can you help me?
23:46 [ Arika ]: i'm still learning how to mapping .. I just read criteria ranking but not help much
23:48 Pho: hi o/ oh, you did a mod on my houkago set right
23:49 [ Arika ]: umm yeah.. i love kano's song :)
23:49 [ Arika ]: i'm sorry not help hehe
23:49 Pho: kano is moe <3 no problem, it was your first mod anyway
23:49 Pho: you sure can ask, but im not a good teacher at all just saying
23:50 [ Arika ]: I start mapping Kano song ..
23:50 [ Arika ]: :)
23:51 [ Arika ]: umm.. my placement kinda weird , can you help me about placement?
23:53 Pho: hmm, map link?
23:54 [ Arika ]: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/353426
23:54 [ Arika ]: umm..
23:55 [ Arika ]: not modding but , I just want to ask .. my map have an unranked placement or something like that
23:57 Pho: the insane?
23:57 [ Arika ]: um?
23:57 Pho: i mean if you're talking about the insane diff in your set
23:59 [ Arika ]: umm... i don't know what you mean ><
00:00 [ Arika ]: sorry my english is bad..
00:03 *Pho is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/778679 Kano - Stella-rium [Insane]]
00:03 Pho: if you mean this map
00:03 [ Arika ]: yeah..
00:04 Pho: can you tell me where exactly you think that unrankable placement is?
00:05 [ Arika ]: 03:46:813 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,1,2,3) -
00:05 [ Arika ]: 02:11:051 (3,4,5,6,7,1) -
00:05 Pho: 02:20:034 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1) - these must be 1/3 snapped
00:06 [ Arika ]: ahh i get it.. 1/3 snap :)
00:06 Pho: 02:11:051 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - not sure what should be unrankable about these, regular jumps
00:07 [ Arika ]: really?
00:07 [ Arika ]: i think the placement is bad..
00:08 Pho: it's not optimal, but not the worst either
00:08 [ Arika ]: here too 03:40:034 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
00:08 Pho: this doesn't give you unrank lol
00:09 Pho: ^same
00:09 [ Arika ]: really? ahh i think my map have unrankable placement or something like that ...
00:10 Pho: there's a high tolerance level on jump patterns. If you don't overdo it it's fine most of the time
00:10 Pho: 03:46:813 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,1) - even this is rankable yea.... but it's not good
00:11 [ Arika ]: here maybe 00:19:017 (5,6,7,1) -
00:11 Pho: still fine
00:11 [ Arika ]: ahh.. i get it.. so i must start re-map that part ..
00:11 [ Arika ]: really? that's weird spacing ..
00:11 [ Arika ]: ><
00:12 Pho: it is lol. lowering the distance would be good there
00:12 Pho: i just say that such things are 'rankable', not 'good quality'
00:13 [ Arika ]: umm this one? 01:23:424 (2,3,4,5,6,7) -
00:13 [ Arika ]: really i think that's bad placement ..
00:14 Pho: yea. there's literally no pressure on these. just linear flow
00:15 Pho: another thing which i see is a main issue in your maps: you know about passive sliders right?
00:16 [ Arika ]: passive slider??
00:16 [ Arika ]: ahh i get it ..
00:16 [ Arika ]: what is passive slider?
00:18 Pho: 01:20:373 (1,2,3) - pretty much what you did here. Sliders starting on weaker beats than where they end at
00:19 Pho: http://puu.sh/k814X/50cfdfb511.jpg
00:19 Pho: is a fitting solution
00:19 [ Arika ]: ohh okay.. soo i must move to white tick again?
00:20 [ Arika ]: okay. . I get it .. will re-map that part then..
00:20 Pho: primarily yes. thing is: using offbeat sliders cause rhythmic instability because you're not following the main beat anymore
00:21 Pho: it's fine if you can explain their purpose (like following a certain background instrument)
00:21 [ Arika ]: like following beat/vocal right?
00:21 Pho: 01:23:085 (1) - 01:30:373 (2) - some other examples
00:21 Pho: yes
00:22 Pho: also as insane diff try to avoid going over too many beats with sliders. example: 01:55:627 (1,2,3) -
00:23 [ Arika ]: ahh i know .. there's i following the guitar sound's ..
00:23 [ Arika ]: it's same like extra btw
00:23 [ Arika ]: i make them all like that ..
00:23 [ Arika ]: white-white . then red-red . then back to white-white again
00:23 Pho: yea that's not good xd
00:24 [ Arika ]: idk why i make like that xD
00:24 [ Arika ]: ohh okay i change there .. maybe using white-white tick will better hehe
00:24 Pho: it's good for easier diff to lower the pressure, but avoid it on the high-end diffs (insane, extra)
00:25 [ Arika ]: ohh ohh.. i following vocal there.. so i make them same xD
00:25 Pho: tell your extra GDer 02:20:034 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - this is wrong too btw
00:26 [ Arika ]: yeah 1/4 ..
00:26 [ Arika ]: GD? i map them all..
00:26 [ Arika ]: Extra is my diff, i make them all. . i just start looking GD for easy difficult hehe
00:27 Pho: oh then i misread it
00:27 [ Arika ]: i change something better then..
00:27 [ Arika ]: 1/3 right?
00:27 Pho: so yea, fix up that snapping + passive slider issues in your map, these are the main issues
00:28 Pho: is this your first map?
00:28 [ Arika ]: about placement?
00:28 [ Arika ]: umm.. yeah.. maybe xD
00:28 Pho: placement needs imporvement too yes
00:28 [ Arika ]: ohh okayy~
00:29 [ Arika ]: i start mapping 7 month ago , but i don't serious to mapping xD
00:29 Pho: pretty sure it's not your first one lol. flow is actually really nice
00:30 [ Arika ]: really? ohh thanks god..
00:30 [ Arika ]: i following pattern Natteke .. :)
00:30 [ Arika ]: and star jump from monstrata.. idk he's new mapper or what? but the star really nice hehe
00:31 Pho: good decision xd natteke makes really cool stuff yep
00:31 [ Arika ]: yeahh i like his/her storyboard too :)
00:32 Pho: monstrata is more of a structure mapper who does a lot with triangles, stars, hexagons and such. not really itneresting, but it's consistent
00:32 Pho: natteke doesn't make sb, i think you mean damnae
00:32 [ Arika ]: damnae?
00:32 [ Arika ]: really? natteke doesn't make sb?
00:33 Pho: nope. damnae is the SB expert
00:33 [ Arika ]: anyway.. thanks for helping me about anything :)
00:33 [ Arika ]: it's help me a lot then ranking criteria :D


We discussed a few things:
  1. Snapping issue in a stream
  2. Slider placement


Good luck with this, good fundamental basis for a map.
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Hi! Pho , Thanks for modding my map! ;)

Pho wrote:

We discussed a few things:
  1. Snapping issue in a stream
  2. Slider placement


Good luck with this, good fundamental basis for a map.
Move to Pending.. Ready for mods
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00:16:305 (4,5,1) - unstack 5,1 and DS instead for better flow
00:24:441 (8,9,1) - ^
00:29:864 (4) - id prefer a normal 1/2 slider instead with a bigger jump to 00:30:203 (1) -
00:50:881 (4) - maybe NC here
00:58:339 (6) - same as 00:29:864 (4)
01:04:780 (5,6) - could change to slider to keep same intensity as 01:05:119 (7) -
01:06:135 (4,5) - increasing spacing to match 01:05:797 (2,3) -
01:13:932 (3) - flow from 01:13:593 (1,2) - is kinda rough. maybe reposition or fix shape
01:45:627 (4,5) - i think this rhythm is wrong. the drums don't seem to match the beat perfectly, but I think its more accurate to move 01:45:712 (5) - to 01:45:797 and shorten by one repeat
01:53:254 (2) - unstack and blanket 01:53:424 (3) instead? better emphasis on 01:53:424 (3) imo
01:59:017 (7,8) - maybe remove 8 to follow song better
02:00:881 (6,1,2) - change this rhythm to two 1/2 sliders to follow vocals?
02:32:237 - i'd continue to follow vocals here
02:34:610 (5,1,2,3) - rhythm is confusing since it follows vocals and then switches to drums
02:41:220 (8,9,10) - DS instead of stack
02:50:881 (5,6) - unstack. if anything, 5 and 1 should be stacked since its the same guitar sound
03:40:034 (1,2,3,4) - spacing could be bigger to match intesity
03:40:712 (5,6) - unstack from 03:40:034 (1) - so it's more clear you're following drums instead of vocals here
03:47:491 (9,10,11,12,13) - why space streams all of a sudden :(
03:56:983 (3,4) - maybe slightly offset from from 03:56:305 (1,2) so it's easier to read
00:13:085 (2,3) - maybe ctr+g for better flow
01:45:119 (1,2,3) - same rhythm issue as insane. maybe try this?
03:56:135 - add a note here?
In general, try to use the same break sections in between difficulties. You have a break starting from 01:24:780 - in your hard diff that you mapped in normal.
00:13:932 (1) - 5/4 sliders are strange. break up into 1/1 slider and a note
00:16:305 (3) - i'd remove repeat and add a note at 00:16:644 - to emphasize downbeat
00:44:271 (2) - add a circle here and move slider to 00:44:271 (2) to follow vocals better
01:41:729 (3,1) - flow is a little awkward here
01:45:288 (2,3,4) - same rhythm recommendation as hard
02:34:949 (1,2,3) - its confusing to follow drums here. i'd just use the same rhythm that you have for your hard diff
03:51:390 (2) - curve slider less so it flows into 03:51:898 (3) -
03:55:458 (2) - break into 1/1 slider and note
00:01:569 (7) - plays better if you replace with a circle imo
00:03:094 (1,2,3) - 1 needs more emphasis. maybe reposition notes like this:
00:06:474 (5,6,7,8) - move 00:06:559 (6) - to 00:06:729 and restack. in general, its better to start triplets on red ticks
00:09:864 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - same thing
00:15:288 (1,2,3,4) - ^
00:20:712 (3,4) - ctrl+h for better flow
00:23:932 (4,5,6,7) - could follow vocals better. maybe something like this?
00:26:051 (3,1) - ds instead of stack?
00:39:695 (1,2,3) - i would just use the same rhythm as 00:38:339 (1,2,3) to follow vocals
00:50:542 (1,2,3) - blanket doesn't look very nice with stack. you could switch the location of the two triplets to add more intensity
01:24:441 (1) - snap slider length
01:35:458 (2) - unstack from 1 and 3 so you don't lose song intensity
01:45:627 (5,6,7) - incorrect rhythm. its 1/3 rhythm starting at 01:45:458 (4) -
01:46:135 (1) - I really don't like 5/4 sliders, replace with 1/1 slider and note or add a repeat to the slider to be consistent
01:51:390 (7,8,1) - it would be nice if these didn't touch the HP drain bar
01:58:678 (5,6) - replace with circles imo, its more fun to play
02:34:102 (6,7,8,9) - 7 is a stronger beat and needs more emphasis. try this?
02:38:000 (2) - maybe NC here
02:38:000 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - jump spacings are strange to play and don't follow song. 02:38:678 (6,7) - is too large and 02:39:186 (2,3,4,5,6) - is too small.
02:45:797 - the 0.8x DS feels a little weak in this section wherever you use it. maybe bump it up a little?
03:03:424 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - good place to use a continuous stream instead
03:05:966 (3,4,5) - I feel like the spacing should be much higher here to match song intensity (like jumps across the entire screen)
03:08:678 (3,4,5) - ^


Hope that helps! Nice mapset and I look forward to seeing this ranked. :)
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Hi! MokouSmoke , Thanks for modding my map! ;)

MokouSmoke wrote:

00:16:305 (4,5,1) - unstack 5,1 and DS instead for better flow
00:24:441 (8,9,1) - ^ Fix both
00:29:864 (4) - id prefer a normal 1/2 slider instead with a bigger jump to 00:30:203 (1) - Keep this one
00:50:881 (4) - maybe NC here NC
00:58:339 (6) - same as 00:29:864 (4) - Keep
01:04:780 (5,6) - could change to slider to keep same intensity as 01:05:119 (7) - Change to slider~ thanks
01:06:135 (4,5) - increasing spacing to match 01:05:797 (2,3) - okey
01:13:932 (3) - flow from 01:13:593 (1,2) - is kinda rough. maybe reposition or fix shape re-map some part
01:45:627 (4,5) - i think this rhythm is wrong. the drums don't seem to match the beat perfectly, but I think its more accurate to move 01:45:712 (5) - to 01:45:797 and shorten by one repeat Fix there with my own
01:53:254 (2) - unstack and blanket 01:53:424 (3) instead? better emphasis on 01:53:424 (3) imo Same ^
01:59:017 (7,8) - maybe remove 8 to follow song better okey
02:00:881 (6,1,2) - change this rhythm to two 1/2 sliders to follow vocals? umm.. keep this one
02:32:237 - i'd continue to follow vocals here
02:34:610 (5,1,2,3) - rhythm is confusing since it follows vocals and then switches to drums no .. I following beat there
02:41:220 (8,9,10) - DS instead of stack keep there
02:50:881 (5,6) - unstack. if anything, 5 and 1 should be stacked since its the same guitar sound [color=#00FF00I don't get it what you mean , but I change something there[/color]
03:40:034 (1,2,3,4) - spacing could be bigger to match intesity Fix before
03:40:712 (5,6) - unstack from 03:40:034 (1) - so it's more clear you're following drums instead of vocals here okey
03:47:491 (9,10,11,12,13) - why space streams all of a sudden :(Re-map stream part before
03:56:983 (3,4) - maybe slightly offset from from 03:56:305 (1,2) so it's easier to read Fix
00:13:085 (2,3) - maybe ctr+g for better flow change a bit
01:45:119 (1,2,3) - same rhythm issue as insane. maybe try this? same like insane ..
03:56:135 - add a note here? okey
In general, try to use the same break sections in between difficulties. You have a break starting from 01:24:780 - in your hard diff that you mapped in normal. It's okey I think..
00:13:932 (1) - 5/4 sliders are strange. break up into 1/1 slider and a note Fix
00:16:305 (3) - i'd remove repeat and add a note at 00:16:644 - to emphasize downbeat Fix
00:44:271 (2) - add a circle here and move slider to 00:44:271 (2) to follow vocals better Re-map some part there..
01:41:729 (3,1) - flow is a little awkward here Re-map some part there too..
01:45:288 (2,3,4) - same rhythm recommendation as hard Change a bit
02:34:949 (1,2,3) - its confusing to follow drums here. i'd just use the same rhythm that you have for your hard diff Really? no problem with that..
03:51:390 (2) - curve slider less so it flows into 03:51:898 (3) -
03:55:458 (2) - break into 1/1 slider and note Keep them .. Nothing wrong on that
00:01:569 (7) - plays better if you replace with a circle imo yeah better..
00:03:094 (1,2,3) - 1 needs more emphasis. No. Keep that maybe reposition notes like this:
00:06:474 (5,6,7,8) - move 00:06:559 (6) - to 00:06:729 and restack. in general, its better to start triplets on red ticks
00:09:864 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - same thing
00:15:288 (1,2,3,4) - ^ Fix them all
00:20:712 (3,4) - ctrl+h for better flow No fix ..
00:23:932 (4,5,6,7) - could follow vocals better. maybe something like this? Fix a bit..
00:26:051 (3,1) - ds instead of stack? Keep
00:39:695 (1,2,3) - i would just use the same rhythm as 00:38:339 (1,2,3) to follow vocals Fix
00:50:542 (1,2,3) - blanket doesn't look very nice with stack. you could switch the location of the two triplets to add more intensity Keep
01:24:441 (1) - snap slider length
01:35:458 (2) - unstack from 1 and 3 so you don't lose song intensity no fix.
01:45:627 (5,6,7) - incorrect rhythm. its 1/3 rhythm starting at 01:45:458 (4) - Fix
01:46:135 (1) - I really don't like 5/4 sliders, replace with 1/1 slider and note or add a repeat to the slider to be consistent Keep
01:51:390 (7,8,1) - it would be nice if these didn't touch the HP drain bar Fix a bit
01:58:678 (5,6) - replace with circles imo, its more fun to play okey
02:34:102 (6,7,8,9) - 7 is a stronger beat and needs more emphasis.Fix with my own try this?
02:38:000 (2) - maybe NC here NC~
02:38:000 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - jump spacings are strange to play and don't follow song. 02:38:678 (6,7) - is too large and 02:39:186 (2,3,4,5,6) - is too small. Fix a bit 02:38:678 (6,7) - .. Keep 02:39:186 (2,3,4,5,6) -
02:45:797 - the 0.8x DS feels a little weak in this section wherever you use it. maybe bump it up a little? re-map this part
03:03:424 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - good place to use a continuous stream instead Stream~
03:05:966 (3,4,5) - I feel like the spacing should be much higher here to match song intensity (like jumps across the entire screen)
03:08:678 (3,4,5) - ^Keep both!


Hope that helps! Nice mapset and I look forward to seeing this ranked. :) Big Thanks for checking my map :D
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Newbie modding ;__;

[Extra]
as discussed in IRC
15:07 clp012345: would you like a forum mod or a irc mod? 0.0
15:08 [ Arika ]: i prefer mod on irc cause i have trouble with my browser hehe~
15:08 clp012345: aw are you ready for mods right now? ;__;
15:08 [ Arika ]: yeah :)
15:09 clp012345: well sorry if i'd be not so kind .__.
15:09 clp012345: 00:03:772 (4,5,6,7) - this shape is not quite working i think
15:09 [ Arika ]: what diff ? :)
15:09 clp012345: extra first :D
15:10 clp012345: the angle of 456 looks too large and the transition of 6 to 7 looks not that good to me
15:11 clp012345: http://puu.sh/k9yf6/6824ffecc0.jpg
15:11 clp012345: maybe you'd want something like this, just suggestion
15:11 [ Arika ]: ohh okay :)
15:12 [ Arika ]: i think 00:03:772 (4,5,6) -
15:12 [ Arika ]: no trouble on that..
15:12 [ Arika ]: i following 00:01:060 (4,5,6) -
15:12 clp012345: yea maybe it's because of the 6-7
15:13 [ Arika ]: yeah xD
15:13 clp012345: when i played it i feel wierd ;__;
15:13 clp012345: 00:15:797 (5,6,7) -
15:13 clp012345: it's actually irregular
15:13 clp012345: you'd want to turn grid off
15:13 clp012345: it's not so obvious in none but become srsly in hr
15:13 [ Arika ]: well.. move 00:04:281 (7) - to 240|300 better :)
15:14 [ Arika ]: ohh okay..
15:15 clp012345: 00:43:763 (1,2,3,4,5) -
15:15 clp012345: i think distance between notes here are too short
15:15 clp012345: generally in extra players expect this only when the song is really slow
15:15 clp012345: and as the song is growing up i'd prefer a larger ds
15:16 [ Arika ]: 00:15:797 (5,6,7) - change to stream instead
15:16 clp012345: nah i mean that the 5-6 and 6-7 is actually not a straight line lolz
15:16 clp012345: but as you like :D
15:17 [ Arika ]: ahh xD
15:17 [ Arika ]: well.. better i change to stream :p
15:18 [ Arika ]: okay fix
15:18 clp012345: ;D
15:19 clp012345: well looking on 43:763?
15:20 [ Arika ]: 00:44:271 (2,3,4) - re-map this part..
15:21 clp012345: well just my personal opinion ;__;
15:21 [ Arika ]: but yea.. that's small distance
15:21 clp012345: 00:57:661 (2,3,4) - 00:58:678 (1,2,3) - some other instances of what i think ds is too small
15:21 [ Arika ]: i change that part
15:22 clp012345: 00:49:186 (1,1,2,3) - actually it's quite difficult to read due to the streams partially overlapped by the slider
15:22 clp012345: maybe 313|217?
15:22 clp012345: or 309|217
15:28 [ Arika ]: okey fix 00:57:661 (2,3,4) - and 00:58:678 (1,2,3) -
15:31 clp012345: 0.0
15:31 [ Arika ]: 00:49:186 (1,1,2,3) - re-map some part
15:31 clp012345: ok :D
15:32 clp012345: 01:12:237 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the stream looks wierd, mainly because of the 4-5-6 transition
15:32 clp012345: you may want to raise the 6-note a little bit
15:33 [ Arika ]: okeyy~
15:33 [ Arika ]: fix
15:35 clp012345: 02:12:576 (3,4,5) -
15:35 clp012345: i think this should be two 1/2 instead
15:36 clp012345: the 4 in the middle looks wrong to me ;(
15:38 [ Arika ]: okayy re-map :)
15:38 clp012345: btw not mentioning other small ds problems but there are quite a few of them ;__; you may need a self-review tho :D
15:38 [ Arika ]: move stream to 02:12:491 - 02:12:576 -
15:38 [ Arika ]: sound's better
15:39 clp012345: 02:03:085 (3,4,5,6) - this part looks quite random to me
15:39 clp012345: i think it's because of the 1-2-3-4
15:40 [ Arika ]: a sec
15:41 [ Arika ]: okeyy i change the placement ~
15:41 clp012345: 02:18:678 (1) -
15:41 [ Arika ]: :)
15:42 clp012345: generally you'd want to place a note at exactly where the spinner begin
15:42 clp012345: then start the spinner 1/4 beats later
15:42 [ Arika ]: should i change to not?
15:42 [ Arika ]: okeeyy~
15:42 [ Arika ]: add not there
15:42 clp012345: http://puu.sh/k9zzd/ab93616d6f.jpg
15:42 clp012345: you can check, it's my personal opinion
15:42 [ Arika ]: yep fix there
15:43 clp012345: 02:20:486 (5,6,7,8,9) -
15:43 clp012345: this is wrapped in rectangular shape and is, honestly, quite ugly .__.
15:44 clp012345: there are many ways to fix it
15:44 clp012345: for example, http://puu.sh/k9zCH/4705aa4009.jpg you can use triangle transistion instead
15:48 [ Arika ]: i change the stream instead~
15:48 [ Arika ]: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3670768
15:49 clp012345: yea that looks nice too
15:49 clp012345: :D
15:49 clp012345: 02:35:458 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
15:49 [ Arika ]: :3
15:49 clp012345: this is very irregular in terms of ds
15:51 [ Arika ]: change a bit
15:51 [ Arika ]: change DS~
15:54 clp012345: aw sorry was afk
15:55 clp012345: 03:26:474 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
15:55 clp012345: maybe you'd want to change the shape of this 8 beats a bit
15:55 clp012345: it looks too generic
15:57 [ Arika ]: ummm..??
15:57 clp012345: emm
15:57 clp012345: maybe just put it aside for now :D
15:58 [ Arika ]: okeeyy~
15:58 clp012345: it's ok, just maybe a bit outsync for final kiai pattern
15:58 clp012345: 03:46:813 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) -
15:58 clp012345: maybe you'd want some other stream patterns
15:58 clp012345: 03:47:152 (5,6,7) -
15:58 clp012345: for example this angle is quite acute
16:00 [ Arika ]: i can't make nice stream lol
16:00 [ Arika ]: :(
16:00 clp012345: ;__; me neither
16:00 clp012345: 03:57:661 (1,2,3,4) - i'd suggest a cross instead, emphasising both four notes
16:00 clp012345: http://puu.sh/k9AiE/964f68a0c5.jpg
16:00 clp012345: like this
16:04 [ Arika ]: how about this stream https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3670812
16:04 clp012345: looks better :D
16:06 [ Arika ]: okayy fix :)
16:06 clp012345: 03:58:932 (1,1) -
16:07 clp012345: i think the time between the spinner and the stream is too short for most players to react
16:07 clp012345: i'd prefer a reverse slider instead
16:08 [ Arika ]: better i add nc on that
16:09 clp012345: i think that's it for extra :D
16:09 [ Arika ]: really thanks for help :)
16:10 [ Arika ]: i'm gonna map another song :)
16:10 [ Arika ]: hehe
16:10 clp012345: should we continue for insane or should i put it in forum instead
16:10 clp012345: lol i'll put the rest in forum then :D



[Insane]
00:47:322 (3,4,5,1) - ds a bit too small
00:54:441 (4,5,1) - I think the 5 is overmapped ;__; should be like this?
01:12:491 (4,5,6) - stream problem, like this turning is not good i think ;_;
01:43:424 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - i prefer 4 sliders here because of the previous 1-2-3-4 singletaps (ds change too sudden)
02:03:763 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - maybe can be more regular :D
02:20:034 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - i think such 1/3 streams are too difficult in Insane diff
03:22:407 (1,2,3,4) - the flow is quite bad here ;__;
03:23:593 (8,1) - maybe placing a note right at where spinner begin and place spinner 1/4 shorter?
03:47:152 (5,6,7,8) - i prefer a reverse slider here

[Hard]
01:45:627 (2,3,1) - would it be too difficult for hard? i mean it's quite difficult to read
cannot find other suggestions :D

[Normal & Easy]
sorry not good at modding low difficulties (Ough)

Good luck!
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Hi! clp012345 , Thanks for modding my map! ;)

clp012345 wrote:

Newbie modding ;__;

[Extra]
as discussed in IRC
15:07 clp012345: would you like a forum mod or a irc mod? 0.0
15:08 [ Arika ]: i prefer mod on irc cause i have trouble with my browser hehe~
15:08 clp012345: aw are you ready for mods right now? ;__;
15:08 [ Arika ]: yeah :)
15:09 clp012345: well sorry if i'd be not so kind .__.
15:09 clp012345: 00:03:772 (4,5,6,7) - this shape is not quite working i think
15:09 [ Arika ]: what diff ? :)
15:09 clp012345: extra first :D
15:10 clp012345: the angle of 456 looks too large and the transition of 6 to 7 looks not that good to me
15:11 clp012345: http://puu.sh/k9yf6/6824ffecc0.jpg
15:11 clp012345: maybe you'd want something like this, just suggestion
15:11 [ Arika ]: ohh okay :)
15:12 [ Arika ]: i think 00:03:772 (4,5,6) -
15:12 [ Arika ]: no trouble on that..
15:12 [ Arika ]: i following 00:01:060 (4,5,6) -
15:12 clp012345: yea maybe it's because of the 6-7
15:13 [ Arika ]: yeah xD
15:13 clp012345: when i played it i feel wierd ;__;
15:13 clp012345: 00:15:797 (5,6,7) -
15:13 clp012345: it's actually irregular
15:13 clp012345: you'd want to turn grid off
15:13 clp012345: it's not so obvious in none but become srsly in hr
15:13 [ Arika ]: well.. move 00:04:281 (7) - to 240|300 better :)
15:14 [ Arika ]: ohh okay..
15:15 clp012345: 00:43:763 (1,2,3,4,5) -
15:15 clp012345: i think distance between notes here are too short
15:15 clp012345: generally in extra players expect this only when the song is really slow
15:15 clp012345: and as the song is growing up i'd prefer a larger ds
15:16 [ Arika ]: 00:15:797 (5,6,7) - change to stream instead
15:16 clp012345: nah i mean that the 5-6 and 6-7 is actually not a straight line lolz
15:16 clp012345: but as you like :D
15:17 [ Arika ]: ahh xD
15:17 [ Arika ]: well.. better i change to stream :p
15:18 [ Arika ]: okay fix
15:18 clp012345: ;D
15:19 clp012345: well looking on 43:763?
15:20 [ Arika ]: 00:44:271 (2,3,4) - re-map this part..
15:21 clp012345: well just my personal opinion ;__;
15:21 [ Arika ]: but yea.. that's small distance
15:21 clp012345: 00:57:661 (2,3,4) - 00:58:678 (1,2,3) - some other instances of what i think ds is too small
15:21 [ Arika ]: i change that part
15:22 clp012345: 00:49:186 (1,1,2,3) - actually it's quite difficult to read due to the streams partially overlapped by the slider
15:22 clp012345: maybe 313|217?
15:22 clp012345: or 309|217
15:28 [ Arika ]: okey fix 00:57:661 (2,3,4) - and 00:58:678 (1,2,3) -
15:31 clp012345: 0.0
15:31 [ Arika ]: 00:49:186 (1,1,2,3) - re-map some part
15:31 clp012345: ok :D
15:32 clp012345: 01:12:237 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the stream looks wierd, mainly because of the 4-5-6 transition
15:32 clp012345: you may want to raise the 6-note a little bit
15:33 [ Arika ]: okeyy~
15:33 [ Arika ]: fix
15:35 clp012345: 02:12:576 (3,4,5) -
15:35 clp012345: i think this should be two 1/2 instead
15:36 clp012345: the 4 in the middle looks wrong to me ;(
15:38 [ Arika ]: okayy re-map :)
15:38 clp012345: btw not mentioning other small ds problems but there are quite a few of them ;__; you may need a self-review tho :D
15:38 [ Arika ]: move stream to 02:12:491 - 02:12:576 -
15:38 [ Arika ]: sound's better
15:39 clp012345: 02:03:085 (3,4,5,6) - this part looks quite random to me
15:39 clp012345: i think it's because of the 1-2-3-4
15:40 [ Arika ]: a sec
15:41 [ Arika ]: okeyy i change the placement ~
15:41 clp012345: 02:18:678 (1) -
15:41 [ Arika ]: :)
15:42 clp012345: generally you'd want to place a note at exactly where the spinner begin
15:42 clp012345: then start the spinner 1/4 beats later
15:42 [ Arika ]: should i change to not?
15:42 [ Arika ]: okeeyy~
15:42 [ Arika ]: add not there
15:42 clp012345: http://puu.sh/k9zzd/ab93616d6f.jpg
15:42 clp012345: you can check, it's my personal opinion
15:42 [ Arika ]: yep fix there
15:43 clp012345: 02:20:486 (5,6,7,8,9) -
15:43 clp012345: this is wrapped in rectangular shape and is, honestly, quite ugly .__.
15:44 clp012345: there are many ways to fix it
15:44 clp012345: for example, http://puu.sh/k9zCH/4705aa4009.jpg you can use triangle transistion instead
15:48 [ Arika ]: i change the stream instead~
15:48 [ Arika ]: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3670768
15:49 clp012345: yea that looks nice too
15:49 clp012345: :D
15:49 clp012345: 02:35:458 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
15:49 [ Arika ]: :3
15:49 clp012345: this is very irregular in terms of ds
15:51 [ Arika ]: change a bit
15:51 [ Arika ]: change DS~
15:54 clp012345: aw sorry was afk
15:55 clp012345: 03:26:474 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
15:55 clp012345: maybe you'd want to change the shape of this 8 beats a bit
15:55 clp012345: it looks too generic
15:57 [ Arika ]: ummm..??
15:57 clp012345: emm
15:57 clp012345: maybe just put it aside for now :D
15:58 [ Arika ]: okeeyy~
15:58 clp012345: it's ok, just maybe a bit outsync for final kiai pattern
15:58 clp012345: 03:46:813 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) -
15:58 clp012345: maybe you'd want some other stream patterns
15:58 clp012345: 03:47:152 (5,6,7) -
15:58 clp012345: for example this angle is quite acute
16:00 [ Arika ]: i can't make nice stream lol
16:00 [ Arika ]: :(
16:00 clp012345: ;__; me neither
16:00 clp012345: 03:57:661 (1,2,3,4) - i'd suggest a cross instead, emphasising both four notes
16:00 clp012345: http://puu.sh/k9AiE/964f68a0c5.jpg
16:00 clp012345: like this
16:04 [ Arika ]: how about this stream https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3670812
16:04 clp012345: looks better :D
16:06 [ Arika ]: okayy fix :)
16:06 clp012345: 03:58:932 (1,1) -
16:07 clp012345: i think the time between the spinner and the stream is too short for most players to react
16:07 clp012345: i'd prefer a reverse slider instead
16:08 [ Arika ]: better i add nc on that
16:09 clp012345: i think that's it for extra :D
16:09 [ Arika ]: really thanks for help :)
16:10 [ Arika ]: i'm gonna map another song :)
16:10 [ Arika ]: hehe
16:10 clp012345: should we continue for insane or should i put it in forum instead
16:10 clp012345: lol i'll put the rest in forum then :D



[Insane]
00:47:322 (3,4,5,1) - ds a bit too small re-map that part
00:54:441 (4,5,1) - I think the 5 is overmapped ;__; should be like this? okey fix
01:12:491 (4,5,6) - stream problem, like this turning is not good i think ;_; agaiinn... fix ;_;
01:43:424 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - i prefer 4 sliders here because of the previous 1-2-3-4 singletaps (ds change too sudden) it's okey , I keep this
02:03:763 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - maybe can be more regular :Dchange a bit
02:20:034 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - i think such 1/3 streams are too difficult in Insane diff okey fix
03:22:407 (1,2,3,4) - the flow is quite bad here ;__; keep for now ;)
03:23:593 (8,1) - maybe placing a note right at where spinner begin and place spinner 1/4 shorter? okey add not
03:47:152 (5,6,7,8) - i prefer a reverse slider here more better~

[Hard]
01:45:627 (2,3,1) - would it be too difficult for hard? i mean it's quite difficult to read it's okey right now~
cannot find other suggestions :Dgood~ :D

[Normal & Easy]
sorry not good at modding low difficulties (Ough)

Good luck!
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Sorry it took some times ;w;
but here is it ;)

F Ant's Easy : http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ms9hTYjJ

Oh, and since the bg changed, I suggest to change the combo colours too.
I suggest this colours combination :
[Colours]
Combo1 : 255,255,204
Combo2 : 255,128,255
Combo3 : 191,191,255
Combo4 : 196,0,217
Don't Kudo this post ;)
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Hi! Blizs'

Really nice mapset!
Thanks for finish the map.
Change New Combo Color to all Difficult , Thanks!
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m4m.

Easy.
00:04:450 (3) - http://puu.sh/kDwby/cb5f143f7d.jpg
00:42:407 (3) - I think this blacket is.....

Normal
00:00:891 - Empty...
00:03:603 - ^
00:39:356 (3) - make straight

Hard
00:03:603 (3) - this is not rhythem
00:04:620 (2) - make blacket like this http://puu.sh/kDwsF/cd84d88141.jpg

Sorry. i can't mod insane and extra
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Hi! Neoskylove , Thanks for modding my map!

Neoskylove wrote:

m4m.

Easy.
00:04:450 (3) - http://puu.sh/kDwby/cb5f143f7d.jpg
00:42:407 (3) - I think this blacket is.....

Normal
00:00:891 - Empty...
00:03:603 - ^
00:39:356 (3) - make straight No fix , sorry :(

Hard
00:03:603 (3) - this is not rhythem
00:04:620 (2) - make blacket like this http://puu.sh/kDwsF/cd84d88141.jpg Fix all

Sorry. i can't mod insane and extra
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Fix all!!!

Thanks for mod :)

Update :
F Ant's Easy : http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ms9hTYjJ
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Update..
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diff : Fant's easy
problem : 03:07:491 (1) - space nya terlalu jauh :D kalo bisa jaraknya dikecilin

03:56:305 (1) - kalo menurutku ini juga sama space nya kalo bisa dideketin sama circle berikutnya

Thx <3
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