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Zexous
last updated on my birthday eyyy
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Squigly

Zexous wrote:

last updated on my birthday eyyy
have another birthday so i can update with gds pls ;
Yauxo

Squigly wrote:

Zexous wrote:

last updated on my birthday eyyy
have another birthday so i can update with gds pls ;
dis.

Even I was able to deliver before 2016 ;w;
Gero
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Gero's Easy
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koliron
this is alive? ayy
Topic Starter
Squigly

koliron wrote:

this is alive? ayy
perhaps i would like it if people finished
Zexous

Squigly wrote:

koliron wrote:

this is alive? ayy
perhaps i would like it if people finished
it's not happening, jimmy
Doyak
omg please set sv multiplier to 0.9 from the start to 00:20:939 - (before this line) on my diff lol
Topic Starter
Squigly

Doyak wrote:

omg please set sv multiplier to 0.9 from the start to 00:20:939 - (before this line) on my diff lol
alright we got a self mod progress boys progress!!!
RVMathew
Hi there. You asked for a mod request in the modhelp section. I will do this mod in 2 parts; one will be for the 4 first difficulties in this set, and around 2 weeks from now I can do another mod. (I am going to be quite busy next week).

Note that whatever I say is my own opinion so you do not have to follow everything I say.

General
1) There are some issues found by AI mod. Please fix them.

2) 01:01:360 This part is very energetic, yet you do not reflect that by omitting kiai time

Gero's Easy
1) 00:39:176 (the whole empty area) It feels quite weird when this part is quite energetic and you decide not to map it. Perhaps try this rhythm pattern (Ignore the placement of the notes on the playfield. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4577088
- Also applies to 01:01:953 (this area as well). If you do add notes remember to add kiai here.

Other than that, a very polished easy.

UWS's Normal
1) 00:04:834 (3) - Here I think you can shorten the slider by 1/2 and replace that empty space with a note. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4577206
The reason why I do that is because by shortening the slider, you do not ignore a strong beat; with your current setup, people may release the slider too early upon hearing the strong beat. You may counter that, by saying that it may be more difficult.

2) 00:58:518 (6,1,2) - Why stack them underneath each other, unless it was for making it neat?

3) 01:16:676 (1) - I like the idea of increasing the volume of the spinner, but to have a much smoother increase in volume you should add more timing points.

Otherwise, nice to play.

Doyak's Hard
1) A lot of unsnapped notes are present, but according to the previous post the SV multiplier was wrong. I am modding this map without that change applied.

2) 00:14:623 (1,2,3) - You can add some hitsounds to spice these notes up.

3) 00:34:202 (2) and 00:34:676 (4). Please explain to me why you think that using a 1/4 slider will be much better in terms of playing the map compared to using notes?

4) 00:42:413 Why ignore a note here when there is a distinct sound?

5) 01:16:597 (1) - Notice how the music gets louder as it builds up to another breakdown (correct me if I got that wrong)? I was thinking of adding timing points to manipulate the spinner volume to reflect the notion of buildup

Good stuff.

Zexous's Insane
1) 00:25:992 (1) - Is it possible for you to do a loop slider with a hole in the middle?

2) 00:28:992 Why are you ignoring a distinct beat here?

3) 00:47:465 You can add a note/slider so it goes neatly into the next note.

4) 00:58:518 (1,1) - These 2 sliders do not have the same curvature.

5) 01:04:518 (5,6,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2) - You can do so much more by adding some hitwhistles and stuff. Right now when playing it this section feels bland.

6) 01:10:202 (1) - Please explain why you chose this slider?

7) 01:21:650 (1,1) - Notice how the music gets louder as it builds up to another breakdown (correct me if I got that wrong)? I was thinking of adding timing points to manipulate the spinner volume to reflect the notion of buildup

8) 01:46:518 You miss a note here because?

Ok difficulty. Did not like this one out of the 4 I have modded today.

Final thoughts
A good set, but I have not checked your one out yet. I probably want you to specate me when I sightread that, so it may give you a lot more help in terms of improving your map (if it comes down to that). I was anal with some things, but they may make a huge difference.

Try playing this with the 'Planet Shaper Skin' by Garin, it looks cool; perhaps you can use this as the preferred skin for this map.

Good luck with the set. I will come back in 2 weeks to mod the others. If you guys need to clarify something with me, don't hesitate to contact me by any means.

Edit: Please fix this: 'i suk at mapng'. Please spell 'mapping' correctly.
RVMathew
Just going to mod your diff for the 2nd part of my mod. No kudosu for this as you gave it to me earlier.

Note that whatever I say is my own opinon so you do not have to follow everything I say.


1) There are some issues found by AI mod. Please fix them.

2) 01:01:360 This part is very energetic, yet you do not reflect that by omitting kiai time

3) 00:00:729 (1,2) - Between these notes there are some beats which you can map, although I am sure you ignored it as they were not as prominent as the main beats. Considering that this is a really hard map, I feel that this part may be undermapped. If you do decide to add notes, then use a lower volume, as they are not as prominent as the main beats. Otherwise don't. Some areas after this are affected, though fixing them is done at your discretion.

4) 00:10:360 (4) - There should be a note here as there is a vocal bit here.

5) 00:10:518 (5) - I think you can spice this slider by adding a sliderbody whistle here. For sliderbody whistles, try this, or get something close to this: http://puu.sh/nmIyU/8d344fe7be.wav

6) 00:33:571 (1) - Again add a sliderbody whistle because I think it adds some flavour.

7) 00:38:781 Not mapping this area of empty space? Why?

8) 01:01:676 (5,1,7,9,5) - Try adding whistle additions here. It brings out the stream a lot more. For the slider only the head needs a whistle on it. Applies to the next stream set as well.

9) 01:06:097 (8) - It sounds a lot better as a 1/8 repeating slider. Extend it to the next note.

10) 01:19:202 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - It works fine, but why do you think that this arrangement is better than using triplets?

11) 01:21:886 (1) Why not start the spinner earlier?

12) 01:36:729 Make everything from here 1.4x. Same rhythm, but a higher speed contributes to a more intense part.

13) 01:41:781 (5,1,2) - Because the strong beat ends at the end of sliders 1 and 2, it feels weird. I know that you added hitfinishes to make them more prominent, however I don't think that is enough until you add a hitfinish on 5 as well.

Other than that, a lot of complex rhythms. You saw me try it first time and that did not end well. However, the map is intense, and in today's style I think you will exceed expectations of a really really intense map.
Zexous

RVMathew wrote:

Zexous's Insane
1) 00:25:992 (1) - Is it possible for you to do a loop slider with a hole in the middle? Nope

2) 00:28:992 Why are you ignoring a distinct beat here? There is no distinct beat there

3) 00:47:465 You can add a note/slider so it goes neatly into the next note. Why the hell would I map a note that's not there?

4) 00:58:518 (1,1) - These 2 sliders do not have the same curvature. Fixed

5) 01:04:518 (5,6,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2) - You can do so much more by adding some hitwhistles and stuff. Right now when playing it this section feels bland. Added some whistles

6) 01:10:202 (1) - Please explain why you chose this slider? .......because that's what the music is?

7) 01:21:650 (1,1) - Notice how the music gets louder as it builds up to another breakdown (correct me if I got that wrong)? I was thinking of adding timing points to manipulate the spinner volume to reflect the notion of buildup Difference is entirely negligible

8) 01:46:518 You miss a note here because? .......because there's not a sound there?

Ok difficulty. Did not like this one out of the 4 I have modded today. I won't be losing any sleep over it
http://puu.sh/npaNX/ed56416821.osu
UnitedWeSin

RVMathew wrote:

UWS's Normal
1) 00:04:834 (3) - Here I think you can shorten the slider by 1/2 and replace that empty space with a note. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4577206
The reason why I do that is because by shortening the slider, you do not ignore a strong beat; with your current setup, people may release the slider too early upon hearing the strong beat. You may counter that, by saying that it may be more difficult.
It's better to play as is imo. Adding the note is too much in the soft section.

2) 00:58:518 (6,1,2) - Why stack them underneath each other, unless it was for making it neat?
Just for pattern variation here. I think it's alright.

3) 01:16:676 (1) - I like the idea of increasing the volume of the spinner, but to have a much smoother increase in volume you should add more timing points.
Good call.

Otherwise, nice to play.
Thanks for the mod!

I changed the bit at 00:48:729 cuz it sucked.
http://puu.sh/nu4wz/8f9e13e9ae.zip
Yauxo
when
Hunter Howl

Wivaiien wrote:

when
when HD has mapped & BNS has noticed this
CelegaS

raianshimuzu wrote:

Wivaiien wrote:

when
when HD has mapped & BNS has noticed this
- Magic Bomb - is a BN and he mapped "MBomb's EX" so they know this map. But actually it need more mods so if you found some issue post them here.
Maybe I'll mod this mapset.
Topic Starter
Squigly
mapset just isnt complete so i havent gone around asking for mods yet is all
diraimur
fuk u
Zexous
when
Doyak

Zexous wrote:

when
Topic Starter
Squigly
who knows its a mystery!!
Gero
RVMathew
Gero's Easy
1) 00:39:176 (the whole empty area) It feels quite weird when this part is quite energetic and you decide not to map it. Perhaps try this rhythm pattern (Ignore the placement of the notes on the playfield. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4577088
- Also applies to 01:01:953 (this area as well). If you do add notes remember to add kiai here. I've added breaks in both parts.

Other than that, a very polished easy.

Gero's Easy
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It's quite sad to see this set in graveyard.
Akali
General: as mentioned aimod goes crazy yadayada

Difficulty gap kinda big, not sure if it's cool with qat


Gero's Easy

I don't like the fact that there is only ONE circle/note in the whole kiai. I know it's a newbie

diff but some rhythmical stuff would be nice. You could easily shorten some sliders and fit some

circles : 01:29:150 (3,4,3) - 01:34:202 (3) - 01:41:150 - 01:41:781 (1) -

Sin's Normal

No kiai on this diff rip

Zexous' insane

00:37:992 (1,2) - kinda weird placement, you can just press and hold (1) but have to follow (2)

when they rep same sounds, 180 (2) and make rotating pattern maybe.

00:38:465 (3) - fits better if this is return 1/4 slider


Yauxo's Another

Random BMS diffname bothers me slightly, you have two extras call this one "insane" as well
Technically ok and diff is really nice, these are mostly suggestions

00:20:465 (3) - remove the repeat, add 1/2 slider on 00:20:623 (4) - remove note, works better

with drums

00:23:150 (5,6,7,8,1) - ctrl+Left arrow this, might look cooler http://puu.sh/q3TG6.jpg + there

is a wub so change in stream would be cool

00:32:939 (1,2,3,4) - ^ to the right

00:47:387 (8) -circle is always fine and it's consistent with previous quad but slider fits

sound better, 00:47:387 (8) - is different from 00:42:334 (8) -

00:48:729 (1) - don't like ignoring synth for the sake of wub slider, some nice medium sized

jump pattern would be cool
00:58:834 (1) - ^

01:00:097 (1) - would like to see 1/2 slider + circle


Bonzi's Extra

RIP Kiai

00:43:360 (1) - OCD, slightly to the right too much


Irrelvis' Extra

00:55:992 (1,1,1,1) - One rabbi would say this is cool with nc spam, other rabbi would say this

is unnecessary

01:02:623 (1,1,1,1) - here both rabbi agree it's pointless

01:07:676 (1,1,1,1) -

01:18:413 (1,1,1) -

01:25:518 (1) -

01:36:413 (6,7,8) - spacing increase would be nice

01:45:571 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - group in 1-2 at least


SQUIGLY BOYS

00:02:307 (3,4) - slight curve on these would be nice

00:02:939 (5) - NC?

00:07:360 (3,4) - same sv as 00:02:307 maybe + slight curve again

00:14:623 (1,2) - snaps

00:16:755 (8,1) - stream should change direction on (1) not (8)

00:17:071 (4,5) - same, should turn on 5, but unlike before there is no musical justification

for a sharp direction change here.

00:17:702 (12) - random 1,60 ds instead of 1,5, also later 2,0 seems too extreme for this, try

1,7-1,8

In general I don't like the directions of 1/4 sliders in the drop, a lot of them are placed

facing outwards of the flow line and it's rather meh when overused, I can't play this so can't

judge how it matters, get some good players and see if they hit slider-end 100s here on regular

basis, if they do try to move them around or ctrl+G some of them so they are more with line of

cursor's directions.

00:23:623 (2,3) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5623456 this placement maybe?

00:44:150 (2) - just use circles in situations like this not kickslider, diff is hard anyway go

with more clicking throughout it

00:45:571 (7) - same, make a nice stream with DS changes

00:50:307 (4,5) - stack sucks, pitch difference is pretty big, jump here

01:03:886 (7,1,2) - more curve http://puu.sh/q3WXL.jpg

01:04:281 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - accents messed up imo, http://puu.sh/q3XbE.jpg

try this

01:07:992 (1) - wrong turn again

01:16:992 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6) - less spacing and completely straight not curved, fits drum

sounds better

01:21:176 (4) - 277:60?

01:30:965 (4) - remap stream, more natural flow and less spacing, start in the area of 473:203

01:26:623 (1) - revise kiai for the rhythm (comparing with other extras maybe?) having wiggly 1/2 sliders combined with wiggly 1/2 sliders with circles between them doesn't really do the justice for the song

01:36:413 (7,8,9,10) - more natural flow? spacing makes it hard enough

01:41:465 (1,2,3,4,5) - something like this better, if you want it to go down - again the turn is on the wrong tick

01:41:939 (1,2,3) - rhythmically cheap for a 7* diff, doubles or some other slider patterns

01:44:939 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Arles? I dunno if the song is intense enough to explain those, nerf imo

no need for responses
Yauxo
when

Akali wrote:

Yauxo's Another

Random BMS diffname bothers me slightly, you have two extras call this one "insane" as well Squigly's call. Another is usually a somewhat more difficult Insane, so that's why the name is there. (easy, normal, intermediate, hard, advanced, hyper, light insane, insane, another, extra, ultra)
Technically ok and diff is really nice, these are mostly suggestions

00:20:465 (3) - remove the repeat, add 1/2 slider on 00:20:623 (4) - remove note, works better
with drums I really like the feel of the 'throwback' from the repeatable Slider towards 4, so probably just a personal pref thing. No change here.

00:23:150 (5,6,7,8,1) - ctrl+Left arrow this, might look cooler http://puu.sh/q3TG6.jpg + there
is a wub so change in stream would be cool Sure, why not. Changed

00:32:939 (1,2,3,4) - ^ to the right yup, changed

00:47:387 (8) -circle is always fine and it's consistent with previous quad but slider fits
sound better, 00:47:387 (8) - is different from 00:42:334 (8) - Feels kind of weird but it does fit, so why not. Changed

00:48:729 (1) - don't like ignoring synth for the sake of wub slider, some nice medium sized
jump pattern would be cool The entire map is based on the drums, I dont think a synth thing would do too well. Same for the following.

00:58:834 (1) - ^

01:00:097 (1) - would like to see 1/2 slider + circle
Thanks for modding

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Bonzi
fixed what akali mentioned and added some kiai xd
https://puu.sh/qjCH3/3aa0edcbe1.osu
Vivyanne
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