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Serval

Gonzvlo wrote:

General:
  1. Delete "Sunday", "Bloody" and "U2" from tags. (Isn't "rock" too generic? Oh well w/e) Done
  2. Preview time is not the same for all the diffs.(Easy)
Done

Easy:
  1. 00:32:027 (1) - Remove New Combo to keep consistency.Done
  2. 02:08:779 (5) - ^ Done
  3. 02:43:012 (4,5) - Wtf? Fix spacing. Done
  4. 03:33:184 (2) - "Finish" doesn't fit here imo, change it for "Whistle".Done
  5. 03:38:344 - Why did you use 2x for the end of a spinner, delete this timing section. Done
  6. 03:41:292 - Delete this timing section (read above)^
Done

Normal:
  1. 00:11:979 (3,4) - Fix Spacing (This is [Normal], Random jumps should not be used here) Done
  2. 03:28:781 (4,5) - Umm What?, Fix spacing please. Done
  3. 04:26:154 (1) - Start this here: 04:26:301.
Nope, the sunday began on blue tick (if you listen carefully)

Hard:
  1. Oh well :| What?
  2. 04:29:987 - Add a circle here.
Nope. I want this stack be something different than the other stack. Yes, there is a drum snare on this tick, no i won't map it. It doesn't fit well with the end of song.

I think this map can be improved a lot with some more modding
Sushi
Rechecked, and looks good.

Not applying bubble yet, need more opinions.
laport
star 8-)
Musty
omg , forgotten to star
i will mod tommorow or not
hedgeberg
great map
I'll give it a star
and I love U2 with a fiery passion
I'm goin to the 360 tour for the second time on june 22nd
hedgeberg
noticed that the slider at 0:39:1 on hard difficulty feels sorta off time.
Colin Hou
[Hard]:
  1. 03:14:560 (7) - unsnaped end, consider to change it to circles, spinner is not a good idea though but yup, still worth a try
  2. 03:28:485 (5) - ^
[Normal]:
  1. 01:15:990 (3,4,5) - spacing
  2. 01:45:176 (6,7,8) - ^
  3. 02:11:134 (3,4,5) - ^
  4. 03:16:356 (3,4,5) - ^
  5. 03:21:085 (3,4,5) - ^
[Easy]:
  1. slider tick rate 2
  2. 01:13:926 (1,2,3) - spacing
star~
Topic Starter
Serval

Colin Hou wrote:

[Hard]:
  1. 03:14:560 (7) - unsnaped end, consider to change it to circles, spinner is not a good idea though but yup, still worth a try
  2. 03:28:485 (5) - ^
[Normal]:
  1. 01:15:990 (3,4,5) - spacing
  2. 01:45:176 (6,7,8) - ^
  3. 02:11:134 (3,4,5) - ^
  4. 03:16:356 (3,4,5) - ^
  5. 03:21:085 (3,4,5) - ^
[Easy]:
  1. slider tick rate 2
  2. 01:13:926 (1,2,3) - spacing
star~
Thank you! I'll fix that tomorrow!
Topic Starter
Serval
Fix'd
Beuchi
Hello~

Remember these are just suggestions you can always ignore~

~General~
- I'm not sure at all at the timing, you'll probably need to get someone to re-check it to bubble it >.<
- Preview time should be the same in all diffs, it's different in Normal (it should be 70388).

~Easy~
00:49:124 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe arrange these a bit better? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/62139
01:19:824 (1) - End this spinner at 01:23:962? It sounds weird where it is right now.
01:48:128 (1,2,3,4,5) - I really think you should finish the pattern at 01:51:692
02:16:433 (1) - I'd move this somewhere else. Being in an Easy, newbies will have problems to reach the note with a short time of recovery =x
03:29:057 (1,2) - Extend these sliders to the next white tick.
04:26:891 (1) - Please, don't use jumps in the easier diffs! >.<

~Normal~
00:48:233 (3,4,5) - I don't really think a Normal is a good place to start using 1/4 streams, maybe replace this with a repeating slider?
01:14:516 (x) - Add a note here? The end of the slider falls in a weird place >:
01:19:233 (1) - Extend the spinner to 01:23:962?
01:32:483 (2,3,4) - Fix spacing here!
02:06:129 (8,9,10) - Same as I said before, maybe replace by a repeating slider?
03:01:882 (1,2,3) - Maybe you should move this away from the other formation so it's perfectly visible. I don't see any reason to leave it like that anyways >:
03:47:337 (2,3,4) - Same as I said before, maybe replace by a repeating slider?
03:48:221 (5) - Fix spacing here!
04:01:194 (1,2,3) - Hmm maybe you should merge those 2 notes and just make a slider for that whole part =x

~Hard~
01:28:660 (2) - Fix spacing here? It's pretty newr the previous slider and it may be confusing >:
02:35:052 (7,8) - I'm not too keen on these two. I guess you can make the jump a bit lighter...
03:38:491 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This is the perfect place to make people rage at you for putting sudden jumps only at the end of the map :P

Not bad! It has this oldstyle look that brings memories, although maybe it's too linear. I don't think I can rebubble this because of the timing, it may be right but I'm not sure x_x I suck at timing.

Good luck >3</ *star*
Topic Starter
Serval

Beuchi-chan wrote:

Hello~

Remember these are just suggestions you can always ignore~

~General~
- I'm not sure at all at the timing, you'll probably need to get someone to re-check it to bubble it >.<Well, I can't do anything by myself for timing, Doomsday and Inozuma have timed it cause i was unable to do it, so... will try to find someone to check that
- Preview time should be the same in all diffs, it's different in Normal (it should be 70388). Done !

~Easy~
00:49:124 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe arrange these a bit better? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/62139 Yup
01:19:824 (1) - End this spinner at 01:23:962? It sounds weird where it is right now. Well, it was on voice, but I guess it's better if it finish on drum
01:48:128 (1,2,3,4,5) - I really think you should finish the pattern at 01:51:692 Yeah, sound less "empty"
02:16:433 (1) - I'd move this somewhere else. Being in an Easy, newbies will have problems to reach the note with a short time of recovery =x Okay
03:29:057 (1,2) - Extend these sliders to the next white tick. Done, I was probably drunk :p
04:26:891 (1) - Please, don't use jumps in the easier diffs! >.< ^

~Normal~
00:48:233 (3,4,5) - I don't really think a Normal is a good place to start using 1/4 streams, maybe replace this with a repeating slider? Hm, yeah, considering that's a normal, yeah
01:14:516 (x) - Add a note here? The end of the slider falls in a weird place >: Sounds less weird :p
01:19:233 (1) - Extend the spinner to 01:23:962? Yup
01:32:483 (2,3,4) - Fix spacing here! Done
02:06:129 (8,9,10) - Same as I said before, maybe replace by a repeating slider? ^
03:01:882 (1,2,3) - Maybe you should move this away from the other formation so it's perfectly visible. I don't see any reason to leave it like that anyways >: ugly patterns is ugly !:p fix'd
03:47:337 (2,3,4) - Same as I said before, maybe replace by a repeating slider? Yup
03:48:221 (5) - Fix spacing here! Done
04:01:194 (1,2,3) - Hmm maybe you should merge those 2 notes and just make a slider for that whole part =x I've made a 1/4 slider, cause he music really fits this kind of timeline

~Hard~
01:28:660 (2) - Fix spacing here? It's pretty newr the previous slider and it may be confusing >: Done
02:35:052 (7,8) - I'm not too keen on these two. I guess you can make the jump a bit lighter... I've removed the jump since there not really something in the music justifying a jump
03:38:491 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This is the perfect place to make people rage at you for putting sudden jumps only at the end of the map :P Yeah, maybe :p but well, jump here are obvious since there not a lot of music :p

Not bad! It has this oldstyle look that brings memories, although maybe it's too linear. I don't think I can rebubble this because of the timing, it may be right but I'm not sure x_x I suck at timing.Will try to find someone good for a timing check

Good luck >3</ *star*
James2250
-If you want to get all those timing sections checked you are going to have to ask a better timer :P
-You don't really need Rock in tags as it will be set as the genre when its ranked
-You might want to add 'War" to the tags as its the album this comes from

Easy:
-Would be nicer if some more patterns were aligned to look organized
-Go through and try to keep your hitsound patterns consistent
00:24:951 (1,3) - separate these so they don't overlap
00:24:951 (1,2,3) - continue clap pattern here too?
00:56:226 (1) - add a clap to the start
01:03:312 (9) - add a clap to the end of this?
01:07:440 (5) - ^
01:12:747 (5) - add a clap to the start? (and continue clap pattern after this)
03:24:337 (1,2) - could be stacked nicer
03:33:774 (1) - end at 03:38:491?
04:26:891 (1) - kind of an odd shape~

Normal:
00:17:875 (2) - I would add the finish to the start of this, not on 1
01:10:978 (3) - add a note here to continue the flow
01:15:695 (3) - ^ - same for ones later
01:28:660 (1,3) - clean some stuff like this up more?
01:48:722 (2,4) - try and avoid some overlaps like this
02:31:808 (1,2) - ^

Hard:
00:27:015 (1) - remove new combo?
01:42:817 (4,5) - spacing
02:41:538 (1,2,3) - redo some of these patterns so the repeats don't get hidden
04:04:732 (8,1) - avoid overlap?

There isn't much technically wrong with the maps but alot of the patterns could more organized much more to make it look better while playing
Topic Starter
Serval

James2250 wrote:

-If you want to get all those timing sections checked you are going to have to ask a better timer :P I've asked to Lybydose, and i'm waiting for now
-You don't really need Rock in tags as it will be set as the genre when its ranked Done
-You might want to add 'War" to the tags as its the album this comes from Done

Easy:
-Would be nicer if some more patterns were aligned to look organized Done, for me
-Go through and try to keep your hitsound patterns consistent Done
00:24:951 (1,3) - separate these so they don't overlap Done
00:24:951 (1,2,3) - continue clap pattern here too?Done
00:56:226 (1) - add a clap to the startDone
01:03:312 (9) - add a clap to the end of this?Done
01:07:440 (5) - ^Done
01:12:747 (5) - add a clap to the start? (and continue clap pattern after this) Done
03:24:337 (1,2) - could be stacked nicerDone
03:33:774 (1) - end at 03:38:491?Done
04:26:891 (1) - kind of an odd shape~i've tried, but not sure if it's still looks odd or not

Normal:
00:17:875 (2) - I would add the finish to the start of this, not on 1Done
01:10:978 (3) - add a note here to continue the flow Done
01:15:695 (3) - ^ - same for ones later Done
01:28:660 (1,3) - clean some stuff like this up more? Done
01:48:722 (2,4) - try and avoid some overlaps like thisDone
02:31:808 (1,2) - ^Done

Hard:
00:27:015 (1) - remove new combo?Done
01:42:817 (4,5) - spacing Done
02:41:538 (1,2,3) - redo some of these patterns so the repeats don't get hidden No,I'll let this like that, since the music is the same and i've ask to someone who never play it, to test it, and this timeline is obvious
04:04:732 (8,1) - avoid overlap?Done

There isn't much technically wrong with the maps but alot of the patterns could more organized much more to make it look better while playingI've reworked a lot the pattern on the map, so it should be less linear, (Beuchi mod) and better organized/look better
Zekira
Oh my god

I tried re-timing this and guess how many red lines I already have 50 seconds into the song



EDIT: probably not perfect, but here's what I got so far. Don't forget to fix sliders, snappings, etc.:

Download: U2 - Sunday Bloody Sunday (Serval) [Zek's Red Lines].osu
Kurai
IRC mod

Savelog
16:40 <KuraiPettan> : 00:32:907 (4,5) - Désactive le grid snap pour stacker (5) avec la din de (3)
16:40 <KuraiPettan> : 00:38:767 (3,4) - Pas bien snappées
16:40 <Serval> : k
16:41 <Serval> : omg
16:41 <KuraiPettan> : 00:51:196 - Ajoute une note ?
16:42 <KuraiPettan> : 00:53:556 (7) - New combo ?
16:42 <Serval> : k
16:42 <KuraiPettan> : 01:04:202 (7) - Clap à la fin ?
16:43 <KuraiPettan> : 01:08:929 (8) - Retire quelque finish, capu à l'écoute
16:43 <Serval> : k
16:43 <KuraiPettan> : 01:17:777 (9) - New combo (ou sur (8))
16:44 <Serval> : sur neuf, le pattern change, donc autant le mettre la
16:45 <KuraiPettan> : 01:38:107 - Ajoute une note ?
16:45 <KuraiPettan> : 01:40:767 - Ici aussi ?
16:45 <KuraiPettan> : 01:53:772 (8) - Clap sur le reverse ?
16:46 <KuraiPettan> : 01:54:650 (9) - Stack correctement avec le reverse de (8)
16:47 <Serval> : k
16:48 <KuraiPettan> : 03:33:174 (8) - New combo
16:48 <KuraiPettan> : 03:41:441 (1) - Finis le 1/4 plus tard
16:49 <KuraiPettan> : 04:03:553 (2,3,4) - Met un meilleur spacing dans ce riplet
16:49 <KuraiPettan> : *triplet
16:49 <Serval> : meilleur => 0.7 ?
16:50 <KuraiPettan> : Nan, (4) est ^pas bien espacé en fait
16:50 <KuraiPettan> : 04:29:868 (1,2,3,4) - Mal snappé
16:50 <Serval> : okay o/
16:51 <Serval> : thx
16:52 <KuraiPettan> : Normal :
16:52 <KuraiPettan> : 00:55:619 (4) - New combo
16:54 <KuraiPettan> : 01:50:816 - Ajoute une note ?
16:54 <KuraiPettan> : 01:49:929 - Enfaite je me suis trompé, ici
16:54 <KuraiPettan> : 01:50:225 (4) - New combo
16:56 <KuraiPettan> : 02:43:906 (4) - New combo
16:56 <KuraiPettan> : 02:45:089 (6) - New combo
16:57 <Serval> : k
16:57 <KuraiPettan> : 04:30:457 (1) - Pas bien snappé
16:58 <KuraiPettan> : AR +1
16:58 <Serval> : k
17:00 <KuraiPettan> : Easy :
17:00 <KuraiPettan> : 04:26:927 (3,4,5) - Pas bien snappées
jericho2442
Easy
you have some unsnapped notes, resnap
00:20:250 (9,1) - move the new combo onto the (9) to follow your pattern
01:00:946 (7) - new combo
01:38:107 (4) - new combo
01:39:880 (1) - remove new combo
01:43:427 (6) - new combo

02:28:882 (5) - ok due to the timing this slider is not gonna work, a timing section in the middle of this is stopping the slider end from being ontime, as it is the slider end is totally out of time, only one thing you can do about this :/ thats remove the slider and map a pattern what will not be sent out of time by the timing section
03:31:409 (3) - would really go better if you made this longer to end on the next white tick

Normal
lower HP drain abit since this IS just a Normal? xD

01:53:180 (1) - remove new combo, its rather pointless since it breaks your pattern
01:56:423 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - maybe split this combo up abit, feels way too long when playing
03:04:251 (4) - new combo to follow your pattern

Hard

00:15:223 (9,1) - put the new combo on the (9) to follow your pattern
01:03:906 (6,7) - spacing, these are waaay too close, (7) needs to be more away from (6) atm it plays like broken spacing :/
01:07:753 (7,8) - same
(suggestion) 01:24:560 (5) - new combo here to follow your pattern?
02:53:931 (4) - new combo to help show the jump and to follow your pattern

----------------------
....odd combo style but not bad maps, best of luck o/
Doomsday
It's about time I took a look at this:

  1. Timing itself seems okay mostly, even though the very end is a bit off. Here's the sections I got for it. Only use if you think it works better, which I think it does :). Add these in:
    BPM: 101.00, Offset: 258,618
    BPM: 102.50, Offset: 263,370
    I managed to SS this before though, even though this part was definately off
Nice hitsounding going on there ~

[EASY]

Seemed to work alright to me. Sticks to 1/1 white ticks a lot of the way through though which gets pretty repetitive. Even though it is an easy, you can still experiment with fancy patterns here to make things more interesting, different slider shapes and note patterns. As it stands, it looks alright.

[NORMAL]

Maybe turn Approach Rate down by one notch? looks a little fast to me.

Map itself looks okay, even though I'd say some of those 1/2 streams feel out of place, in the song and for a normal difficulty (things like 00:55:619 (1,2,3,4,5,etc)). That said, I'd say this difficulty follows the rhythm the best out of the other difficulties, even though it could still have used some patterns in the vocals and such rather than constant 1/2 or 1/1 beats.

[HARD]

02:12:905 (1) - Move this back to 02:13:513? Coming in on that vocal just there would sound pretty nice
That's as far as specifics go

As for the map itself, It's got some nice patterns going (the streams at 02:36:808 were pretty nice), even though it does stick to lines of notes 1/2 from each other a lot, like the other difficulties. (things like 03:15:482 (1,2,3,4,5,etc), 00:55:619 (1,2,3,4,5,etc) etc), which even though they are short, really do build up and get repetitive.

Overall, the map is pretty solid (and a monster timing job. Oh man), even though it does get quite repetitive, especially in easier difficulties. Not much to suggest in specifics, since it's technically alright, and has some nice bits. It's just a little dull. Could be down to the song not being easy to map though, especially at 4:30 length. It's alright for what's there, but it's not the most exciting map out there

For that, you get my star
Topic Starter
Serval

Doomsday wrote:

It's about time I took a look at this:

  1. Timing itself seems okay mostly, even though the very end is a bit off. Here's the sections I got for it. Only use if you think it works better, which I think it does :). Add these in:
    BPM: 101.00, Offset: 258,618
    BPM: 102.50, Offset: 263,370
    I managed to SS this before though, even though this part was definately off
Fix'd!

Nice hitsounding going on there ~ Thx !

[EASY]

Seemed to work alright to me. Sticks to 1/1 white ticks a lot of the way through though which gets pretty repetitive. Even though it is an easy, you can still experiment with fancy patterns here to make things more interesting, different slider shapes and note patterns. As it stands, it looks alright.

[NORMAL]

Maybe turn Approach Rate down by one notch? looks a little fast to me.-1 AR

Map itself looks okay, even though I'd say some of those 1/2 streams feel out of place, in the song and for a normal difficulty (things like 00:55:619 (1,2,3,4,5,etc)). That said, I'd say this difficulty follows the rhythm the best out of the other difficulties, even though it could still have used some patterns in the vocals and such rather than constant 1/2 or 1/1 beats.

[HARD]

02:12:905 (1) - Move this back to 02:13:513? Coming in on that vocal just there would sound pretty nice Okay
That's as far as specifics go

As for the map itself, It's got some nice patterns going (the streams at 02:36:808 were pretty nice), even though it does stick to lines of notes 1/2 from each other a lot, like the other difficulties. (things like 03:15:482 (1,2,3,4,5,etc), 00:55:619 (1,2,3,4,5,etc) etc), which even though they are short, really do build up and get repetitive.

Overall, the map is pretty solid (and a monster timing job. Oh man), even though it does get quite repetitive, especially in easier difficulties. Not much to suggest in specifics, since it's technically alright, and has some nice bits. It's just a little dull. Could be down to the song not being easy to map though, especially at 4:30 length. It's alright for what's there, but it's not the most exciting map out there

For that, you get my star
Thanks, and yeah, both the song and the map are quite repetitive, but well, that's was my first map and really, I don't have the will to remap all this song, so i'll take modding and suggestions and apply it, and still improve the map, but I've spend so much hours on this that I can't even have a good judgement on it now...
Mutsui
Bah alors, pas ranked depuis le temps :3
PotsBreaker
U2 IS THE GREATEST BAND 8-) i wish this will be ranked
Sushi
Here's your bubble
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