Ogura Yui - Honey Come!! · forum

Seijiro

osu! Alumni

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Seijiro 2015-08-20T20:25:37+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on domenica 10 luglio 2016 at 02:34:20

Artist: Ogura Yui
Title: Honey Come!!
Source: 城下町のダンデライオン
Tags: Castle Town Joukamachi no Dandelion
BPM: 184
Filesize: 5423kb
Play Time: 04:02
Difficulties Available:

Easy!! (1,32 stars, 265 notes)
Hard!! (3,49 stars, 702 notes)
Insane!! (4,66 stars, 950 notes)
Normal!! (2,03 stars, 500 notes)
Pick Me!! (5,58 stars, 1068 notes)

Download: Ogura Yui - Honey Come!!
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Mapset:

Easy!! 100%
Normal!! 100%
Hard!! 100%
Insane!! 100%
Pick Me!! 100%

Hitsounds ready (I hope) Here

Bonus diffs:

Sotarks' Extra Here
Ashemu's Insane Here
Forbidden!! Here

Last edited by Seijiro 2020-12-13T17:05:41+00:00, edited 87 times in total.

Arphimigon

1,650 posts

Joined December 2014

Arphimigon 2015-08-24T23:13:19+00:00

Totally not gonna make an extra and reserving a placeholder for it

Seijiro

osu! Alumni

3,438 posts

Joined April 2013

Topic Starter

Seijiro 2015-08-25T01:27:24+00:00

Arphimigon wrote:
Totally not gonna make an extra and reserving a placeholder for it

Totally :^)

A s h e m u

376 posts

Joined February 2013

A s h e m u 2015-08-29T01:17:49+00:00

Hi ~ :3

GD complete ~

SPOILER

osu file format v14

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Title:Honey*Come!!
TitleUnicode:Honey♥Come!!
Artist:Ogura Yui
ArtistUnicode:小倉唯
Creator:MrSergio
Version:Ashemu's Isnane
Source:城下町のダンデライオン
Tags:Castle Town Joukamachi no Dandelion
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Seijiro

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Seijiro 2015-08-29T06:34:59+00:00

Thanks :3~

Updated

Edit: I'll update tags with the next upload, sorry xD
Edit2: After checking the diff accurately I decided that it hasn't enough quality as it is now, sorry :/

Last edited by Seijiro 2015-08-31T17:02:41+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Kyuuten

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Kyuuten 2015-08-31T12:04:52+00:00

Sergio pls
SERGIO PLS
S E R G I O P L S :^)

ops farò una gd ops che palle ops uccidete kama ops

200 MESSAGGI

Seijiro

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Seijiro 2015-09-01T05:33:59+00:00

Oh damn it, I misclicked on my phone :<
I'll ask a BN to remove the kudosu

meii18

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Joined October 2013

meii18 2015-09-01T12:56:10+00:00

Buna! Cum ai cerut

Artist: 小倉唯 http://www.ogurayui.jp/profile/
Romanised Artist: Ogura Yui
Title: Honey♥Come!! http://www.tbs.co.jp/anime/dande/disc/cd1.html
Romanised Title: Honey*Come!!
Source: 城下町のダンデライオン http://www.tbs.co.jp/anime/dande/
Titlul alternativ al acestui anime este Castle Town Dandelion.Asta inseamna ca ai uitat sa pui Dandelion.As sugera sa-l pui la tags langa Castle Town

Fara kudosu.Bafta!

Seijiro

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Seijiro 2015-09-01T17:50:51+00:00

ByBy13 wrote:
Buna! Cum ai cerut

Artist: 小倉唯 http://www.ogurayui.jp/profile/
Romanised Artist: Ogura Yui
Title: Honey♥Come!! http://www.tbs.co.jp/anime/dande/disc/cd1.html
Romanised Title: Honey*Come!!
Source: 城下町のダンデライオン http://www.tbs.co.jp/anime/dande/
Titlul alternativ al acestui anime este Castle Town Dandelion.Asta inseamna ca ai uitat sa pui Dandelion.As sugera sa-l pui la tags langa Castle Town

Fara kudosu.Bafta!

Mutumesc pentru check :3
Ah, ce ai spus in ultima parte nu prea este corect

Uite:

Adica nu ai vasut ca era deja pus xD <3

meii18

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meii18 2015-09-01T19:29:11+00:00

MrSergio wrote:
Mutumesc pentru check :3
Ah, ce ai spus in ultima parte nu prea este corect
Uite:

Adica nu ai vasut ca era deja pus xD <3

Acel cuvant "dandelion" era de la titlul acela care este in japoneza.Eu ma refeream la titlul care este in engleza daca nu ma insel

Seijiro

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Seijiro 2015-09-16T19:39:49+00:00

Waiting for Forbidden's diff xD (if he completes it)

Doormat

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Doormat 2015-09-21T04:52:44+00:00

Hello, from my M4M Queue. Do you mind if I wait until you finish all your difficulties, or would you rather me just mod what you have right now? I'd feel a little guilty for just modding one difficulty..

Seijiro

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Seijiro 2015-09-21T21:04:32+00:00

Doormat wrote:
Hello, from my M4M Queue. Do you mind if I wait until you finish all your difficulties, or would you rather me just mod what you have right now? I'd feel a little guilty for just modding one difficulty..

You'll be waiting for a while then, since I'm both a slow mapper and busy irl atm lol.
I'll let you know when it's ready :3

Yohanes

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Yohanes 2015-10-17T16:02:27+00:00

Last time I saw this map, it only has 2 diff...

Now it has at least 5 insane diff, wth xD

Sotarks

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Sotarks 2015-10-20T09:26:40+00:00

Honey Come will dominate the world~ !

guineaQ

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guineaQ 2015-10-21T07:32:11+00:00

I am really tempted to map this song as well

quad mode ofc

Seijiro

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Seijiro 2015-10-21T08:00:22+00:00

guineaQ wrote:
I am really tempted to map this song as well

quad mode ofc

Have fun :^)

Lumael

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Lumael 2015-11-01T21:02:44+00:00

Hey, m4m from your queue

Pick Me!!

01:18:166 (1) - it's really weird this spacing and ncinconsistency with 01:15:557 (7) - , the rhythm is basically the same but you did nc differently on both of them, also the spacing between 01:15:394 (6) - and 01:15:557 (7) - is of 1x more or less, while between 01:18:003 (6) - and 01:18:166 (1) - is of 3x more or less, you should make them with simillar spacing as they're the same
00:03:003 (1) - if you look to 00:05:612 (1) - their spacing is inconsistent, same rhythm with considerably different spacing, this is not an unrankeable problem or an issue for a possible dq, but it's weird while playing, you can easily notice that the spacing is different
00:45:394 (4) - nc missing? Second kiai has nc so add here?
00:48:329 (4) - why such small ds here? this sound is similar to 00:45:720 (5) - which has been used higher spacing + the flow is a bit weird her, i'd place somewhere like x 55 y 192 to create a stack with 00:48:818 (6) - making the spacing less awkward to play
01:35:286 (2) - 01:37:894 (2) - by your nc pattern i think you should add nc here for the same reason you added here 01:36:590 (1) - or even remove the nc of 01:36:590 (1) - to make it more consistent
02:00:883 (1) - i didn't understand why this nc, there's literally nothing here to explain the usage of another combo color, but on 02:01:046 (2) - which was added to the prev. combo color, what about adding the nc here instead?
02:36:427 (1,2) - ncing again does different from 02:33:818 (7,1) - like mentioned above (atleast the spacing was better this time) i'm starting to think that this is done in purposite while i still don't get this inconsistency
02:37:568 (4) - add nc since you added here 01:19:307 (1) - ?
02:49:960 (1,2) - it may be just me, but this spacing looks like 1/4 but it's 1/2 in fact, i recommend you increasing this to prevent from problems in the future
02:51:264 (1,2) - 02:55:177 (1,2) - 02:56:481 (2,3) - ^
03:13:112 - an extended slider until 03:14:090 - would fit a lot better than nothing
03:24:525 (4) - nc missing?
03:25:666 (5) - definetly missing nc, look similar patterns on other kiais

Hard!!

02:15:883 (3,1,2) - I highly recommend you to unstack this, it looks like a triplet while playing and it may confuse players since the ar is low.
03:13:112 - same suggestion of the extra diff, btw do it for every diff if you like the suggestion
03:28:927 (3,4) - i didn't get the usage of this rhythm, this is the only occasion that you used this rhythm, if you look simillars parte, they are all like that 03:25:666 (1,2,3) - which imo is better because it shows the player that you're going for the vocals, and the current one is a mess between vocals and drums :/
03:54:362 (4) - why don't you use the same rhythm of the beginning? like this 00:04:796 (1) -

Normal!!

I like this diff, but it's way too dense imo mostly in the kiai, you could remove some unecessary that aren't following the vocals that is what you're mainly focusing.
02:49:960 - why on this section you're just following drums and them you suddenly start to get both drums and vocals at 02:55:666 - ? I think a consistency between them would improve the gameplay
Btw what happened to CS here e.e, it's way too high, i assume that you saved the insane as a new diff and you forgot to change CS. I also think that the AR could be lower, like 5 but it's not a big problem, this is almost an advanced so you may ignore this.

That's it from me, Good Luck!

Bonsai

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Bonsai 2015-11-02T16:33:03+00:00

for m4m ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
[Pick Me!!]

00:10:177 (1,2,3) - I feel like this should be spaced more, the absolute spacing is the same although the time interval is doubled, not really causing reading issues but those beats just don't feel emphasized as much as they should be imo
00:10:829 (3,1) - not really a big fan of that stack as (1) doesn't 'belong' to (3) in any way - Have you thought about making this a slider though? would fit really well imo
00:18:003 (1,2) - feels a bit off since you don't expect two circles there after 00:16:699 (4) was only one - making this a slider would really fit as well here and differentiate these different patterns more
00:20:286 (6) - not really anything happening on the tail of this slider, feels 'empty'
00:32:351 (1) - It's not very clear what you focus on starting from here - you leave out 00:33:166 where both vocals and the low backgorund-thingy is and 00:33:655 (1,3) and 00:35:449 (1,2,3,4,5,1) definitely feel like you're mapping vocals here since the background-thingy has the exact same beat, but then suddenly 00:36:753 is left out which feels very weird to me as you expect to play along the vocals. I'd just make 00:36:264 (1) a slider until there (wow so many points about sliders lol)
00:37:731 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3) - The first (1) get's really much emphasis here although that beat is always on slidertails afterwards which feels weird, and the first combo is very zig-zag but the following combos are just smooth circular flow which doesn't make much sense as it's the same musical pattern over and over again but plays completely different
00:40:177 (1,2,3,4) - I didn't say it previously but generally you barely space your sliders at all compared to most of the circle-patterns, you gotta take slider leniency into consideration, they don't feel emphasized at all like this - Previous stuff like this: 00:03:655 (1,2) where the spacing is the same as 00:03:003 (1,2) and 00:03:329 (3,4) but plays way easier because of slider leniency and smooth circular flow insead of zigzag. 00:11:481 (1,2) also seems pretty 'boring' compared to the following circles. 00:13:438 (4,5) is nicely spaced, why not do it everywhere like this? o: 00:20:612 (1,2) is also very low. Generally, this doesn't seem like an 5,43*-map at all, more like 4,9* or something like that : \
00:42:133 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - This is pretty clustered, the second (3,4) are barely visible, maybe change the direction of the second combo a bit, or curve it a bit too
00:42:786 (1,2,1,2,3) - Huuuuge jump between the first two circles and then random, inconsistent baby-spacing between the rest, feels reeaally weird, not emphasized at all
00:45:068 (2,3,4) - (3,4) should be the bigger jump here, not (2,3) since (4) is definitely the most important beat here, it's what the previous notes build up to. I'd also suggest putting the NC on (4) and probably also removing it from 00:44:905 (1)
00:45:720 (5,6) - why such small spacing o: (6) is more important than the following (7,8), you gotta give the right emphasis
00:47:188 (3) - don't see the point of repeating this slider as 00:47:514 is where vocals start again and should belong to the next few notes, not like this. This also makes it impossible to NC with the lyrics which you seem to have wanted there, I'd suggest keeping the NCs consistently on the downbeats - 00:48:003 (3) - anyways
00:48:003 (3,4) - really low spacing again, I haven't looked at the whole diff yet but this is definitely not an Extra at all so far D:
00:50:530 (9) - this seems / is overmapped, there isn't such a beat there as in 00:50:204 (6)
00:51:916 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - there is literally nothing happening in the music that would suggest such huge jumps, why do you emphasize these unimportant notes so much more than the improtant ones?
00:53:873 (1,2,3,4) and 00:54:525 (1,2,3,4) - those are respectively four equally important beats, the (3)s aren't less important than the (2)s in any way, I'd strongly suggest evenly spaced patterns like squares or something
00:55:340 (1,2,3) - These should also be spaced evenly, there's nothing more important on (3) than on (2), after all (2) is the upbeat so that should be accentuated if anything
01:00:721 (5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - whyy soo loow spaaciing aaah
01:03:655 (1,2,3) - Dunno what pattern you are going for here exactly but (1,2) plays way different than (2,3) lol, you have to make a 180°-turn from (1) to (2) but (2) flows directly into (3) - did you want something like this maybe

I think I'll stop with that diff now, it's basically the same stuff over and over again, mainly very unreasonable spacing, a lot of parts that are just way too easy for this diff, and generally the map seems very unpolished as there aren't many recognizeable patterns, things overlap weirdly our touch slightly like 01:12:133 (4,2) which is really lewd, and many parts witch sliders involved play really weird like 01:11:318 (1,2,3,4) where (1,2) is an extremely uncomfortable thing to play because of the sharp turns but then (3,4) and also 01:12:622 (1,2) paly really smooth (but look really bad imo bc the extended sliderpaths don't line up with the circles, it just looks like you placed them very rushed and didn't polish them at all. Yet another weird, randomly low spacing at 01:15:068 (3,4,5,6,7) which flows into each other directly so it almost plays like a Normal; again at 01:15:883 (1,2) low spacing, not taking slider leniency into consideration, yaddayaddayadda I'll just stop here, lower diffs probably have the same problems, don't want to look at them, sry for being kinda harsh, I'm a bit tired and got stuff to do and expected more tbh : \ I hope you understand my points and can apply them to the rest of your maps though, good luck!
oh yeah I forgot, the NC's are pretty inconsistent throughout the whole diff if I remember correctly

[Sotark's Insane]

00:03:655 (1,2,3) - why is (2,3) so spaced when everything else in this intro is spaced so evenly?
00:10:177 (1,2,3) - those are really important beats that should be properly emphasized, not yet another boring stack like 00:06:264 (1,1,1,1,1) Also suggesting to make 00:10:829 (3,4) a slider
00:06:264 (1,1,1,1,1) - The last one of these is something completely different, the beginning of a new combo, and should not be grouped with the previous ones
00:12:460 (5) - Plays very weird bc the important beat is at the tail of this slider, but the slidertail doesn't give any emphasis at all - suggesting to make this a circle and then a 1/1-slider since there's the long, holding vocal
00:14:090 (1) - why is this a slider though? Those are two separate, distinct beats
00:14:742 (3) should get more emphasis than the rest as the beat here is way more important than the rest
00:15:068 (5) - again not a good object choice, gives exactly wrong emphasis
00:16:699 (1,2) - there's nothing on the head of (2) O.o just make this one 1/1-slider. same with 00:19:307 (1,2)
00:17:514 (5) - same emphasis-thing again. also at 00:20:123 (5) and 00:24:036 (5) - I'll just stop pointing those out
00:18:655 (4) - leaving out the beat at 00:18:818 which has always been mapped previously, feels off
00:18:655 (4,1) - why such low spacing O.o
00:20:612 (1,2) - why did you lower the SV here? There's like double the stuff happening as previously, if anything you should raise the SV
00:25:177 (3,4) - there's important beats on these two notes that weren't at 00:25:014 (2) for example, stacking them is the opposite of what you want to do, you want to give (3) and (4) more emphasis than (2) by making them higher spaced, and like sharper angles and all that stuff that gives emphasis
00:27:460 (3,6,3,6) - these sliders aren't fitting as there are more distinct claps on the tails of the (3)s whereas there are none on the tails of the (6)s, so mapping them exactly the same is not good.

I'm just gonna quickly generally explain the general issues as they're the same in all of the map: Your emphasis seems very randomly, for example 00:42:786 (1,2) are two really important beats that are different from the rest, but you don't emphasize them all by lining them up perfectly in the direction you're coming from with the previous stream, then you space (2,3) almost the same as (1,2) although they have double the time interval in-between - All of these beats 00:42:786 (1,2,3,4,5) are equally as important, so they should have the same emphasis, normally by spacing them the same relatively (=the same multiplicator in the top right corner) - stacking (3,4) but spacing out (2,3) and (4,5) doesn't make any sense at all as they're exactly the same. You don't keep focusing on certain things consistently: Sliders give emphasis on the head but none on the tail, so 00:46:373 (5,1) feel like ignoring the vocals since they are on the tails and emphasizing the basic beat, but then 00:47:188 (3) is exactly the other way around, exactly the same with 00:48:981 (5,1,3) -. You map different things exactly the same, like 00:51:916 (1,2,3,4) and 00:53:220 (1,2) where vocals start on the second combo but it's mapped in sliders, just as the previous combo, and not even spaced any higher or sharper angled or other things that give emphasis; but you also sometimes map the same things completely different like 01:14:090 (1,2,3) and 01:16:699 (1) -, and leaving out 01:20:775 when you mapped that beat everywhere else previously, and the following combos of this interlude are again completely differently mapped than in the beginning although it's exactly the same. You stack things without real reason and take away all the intensity by giving important beats zero emphasis by stacking them, like 01:15:557 (2,3) -
Yeah that's the main points. Sry for sounding so harsh, I'm kinda tired and got a lot of stuff to do and expected more tbh : \ I hope you understand my points and can apply them to the rest of your map though, good luck!

Lumael

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Lumael 2015-11-02T17:16:09+00:00

@Bonsai: take in mind that mapping is really subjetive and if something doesn't look good/make sense for you doesn't mean it's wrong

Lasse

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Lasse 2015-11-02T18:38:12+00:00

small m4m

Sotarks' Insane
od7 on a 5*+ map? the way easier nonGD insane is OD7, maybe use 8 or at least 7.5, would ift better with the difficulty of the song and spread in general
00:10:014 (8,1) - whis is this jump the smallest, even though 1 is a much more emphasized beat than the pattern before?
00:11:481 (1) - idk about that nc, I guess it's a strong downbeat, maybe you should remove it from 00:11:318 (1) - instead
00:11:481 (1,2) - wonky slider to ricle movement here, move 2 right or sth
00:14:090 (1) - remove that red anchor in the middle, it looks bad
00:14:905 (4,5) - that angle + 5's direction don't work that well together. try rotating 5 by 90° or sth clockwise
00:15:068 (5) - extend to 1/1 to better go with the vocals?
00:15:557 (1,2,3,4) - fix this with the create pattern tool, it looks off
00:19:307 (1,2,3,4,5) - this is some really weird flow

00:21:916 (1) - so you made this sound a stream at 00:21:427 (1) - but a slider here? make it a 1/4 repeating slider at least, suddenly ignoring it and switching to vocals feels really bad and kinda random. you are not mapping a light insane or sth, you can put sth better here
00:31:862 (5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - here for example it's fine, cause the sound the stream is mapped to actually ends where the slider starts
00:32:840 (2) - pls make this a normal slider, it really doesnt fit here musically and aesthetically
also you are completely ignoring that every audible sound in the background, how about http://i.imgur.com/20ZTcHE.jpg
00:35:449 (2,3,4) - same for that sound

00:47:188 (3) - suddenly putting focus on the red tick for no apparent reason plays really bad, 00:47:351 this is such a strong drum beat too
00:49:633 (2,3) - ^
00:48:329 such a strong drum beat, don'tmake this a sliderend pls
00:50:612 (1,2,3,4) - again, I get that you want to follow the vocals, but it's really weird to play
00:55:829 (4) - ^
00:57:460 (2) - i'll stop mentioning those now, I think you get what I mean

00:53:465 note here would go well with the music

00:59:090 (3,5) - are the most emphasized notes of this pattern, so the jumps to them should be the biggest, or make 00:58:927 (2,3,4,5,6) - actually perfect star with ctrl-shift-d

01:02:351 (1,2,3,4) - this actually goes well with the music, but you should really fix the blanketing and make it perfect, it's not that hard and looks muc hbetter

01:03:655 (1,4) - unnecessary overlap and flow could be better

01:04:960 (1,2,3,4) - 2-3 jump should not be smaller than 3-4, just listen to the music

01:10:177 (1,2,3,4) - good fitting pattern but needs some polishing

01:11:644 (2,3,4,5) - sudden switch to red ticks plays really bad and feels off

01:14:905 (6,7,8) - this angle makes that jump way harder to play than it actually is considering the spacing

01:24:525 (1,1,1,1) - use at least somehow equal spacing herem having two of them nearly stacked and the others @roughly 1x feel very random

01:28:438 (1,2,3) - jump to 3 should be the biggest, not the one to 2, considering the intensity

01:29:579 (2,3,4) - placement of this feels really random

01:40:177 - like 00:21:427 (1) -

01:42:133 (4) - so unfitting shape and again ignoring strong beats for like the 50th time in order follow the vocals (which can still be done without having really strong beats on sliderends), also the flow to 01:42:623 (5) - is really bad

01:43:927 (1) - normal curved slider or at least symmetric shape

01:44:905 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - this spacing change, especially by putting it at 01:45:231 (9) - is in no way supported by the music

01:48:003 (1) - those shapes :/ if you make a slider like that at least make it in a way to blanket sth to make it look a bit less random, or just use more normal shapes
01:49:960 (4,7) - extend those notes by making them kicksliders, doesnt really change how it's played but supports the synth sounds
01:51:101 (2) - this is clearly 3x1/4, no reason undermap that here

01:51:753 (5,1) - placement looks so random, move blanket or completely rearrange
01:53:057 (5,1) - ^

01:51:916 (1,2,3,4,5) - that whole red tick thing again

01:53:710 (2,3,4) - missed a 1/4 somewhere here

01:55:177 (3,4,5,6,1) - equal spacing pls

01:55:829 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - how about rotating each one a bit, it's kinda boring like that, but feel free to keep it as it plays fine

02:02:677 (1,1,2,3,4) - bad flow and nothing really calls for that jump spacing here
02:03:655 (4,5,6,7) - dont like the flow here
02:04:960 (1,2,3) - wawwwaw change to red tick thing again, won't keep mentioning it or this mod would be endless
02:08:873 (3) - shape doesnt work well here again

02:10:177 (1,2,3,4) - blankets need some polishing

02:13:601 (1,2,3,4) - pattern and spacing doesn't really fit here
02:14:090 (4) - please redraw that slider, it' disgusting, you could also blanket 02:14:579 (5) - while at it

02:18:003 (1,2,3) - red tick thing and the sliders nearly overlap, looks bad

02:20:612 (1,2,3,4) - not completely same shape, looks really unpolished

02:27:623 (2,3,4,5) - random overlap + that slider shape, looks really bad

03:08:220 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1) - this looks really bad, make it some normal shape pls

03:07:568 (1,2,3,4) - fix this star

03:13:112 put a note here like on the other high diffs, feels really ignored otherwise
03:20:612 (1) - needs some work

03:42:786 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - pattern could need some form of structure, it looks like two badly made stars thrown together

04:01:699 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - bad shape
04:02:351 (5) - should be a slider

edit: just read bonsai's post and that pretty much summs up my concers with this diff

good luck with this

Seijiro

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Seijiro 2015-11-02T19:07:02+00:00

Lumael wrote:
Hey, m4m from your queue

Pick Me!!

01:18:166 (1) - it's really weird this spacing and ncinconsistency with 01:15:557 (7) - , the rhythm is basically the same but you did nc differently on both of them, also the spacing between 01:15:394 (6) - and 01:15:557 (7) - is of 1x more or less, while between 01:18:003 (6) - and 01:18:166 (1) - is of 3x more or less, you should make them with simillar spacing as they're the same
I changed the NC, from 01:15:883 - to 01:15:557 - . As for the spacing matter, it is not the same: the first one is just a mere triplet, while the second one is used as a kick slider to give more speed to the pattern, that's why there is such a change in spacing even if the "apparent" pattern is the same
00:03:003 (1) - if you look to 00:05:612 (1) - their spacing is inconsistent, same rhythm with considerably different spacing, this is not an unrankeable problem or an issue for a possible dq, but it's weird while playing, you can easily notice that the spacing is different
Wow, what a sharp eye, I never noticed that even if I played it so many times lol. Fixed
00:45:394 (4) - nc missing? Second kiai has nc so add here?
I was going to check NCs today since I had some free time lol xD
00:48:329 (4) - why such small ds here? this sound is similar to 00:45:720 (5) - which has been used higher spacing + the flow is a bit weird her, i'd place somewhere like x 55 y 192 to create a stack with 00:48:818 (6) - making the spacing less awkward to play
Increased. Actually, I moved it to the exact spot you pointed out without reading lol
01:35:286 (2) - 01:37:894 (2) - by your nc pattern i think you should add nc here for the same reason you added here 01:36:590 (1) - or even remove the nc of 01:36:590 (1) - to make it more consistent
lol, yes. I suck at NC-ing ahahahaha (or probably I just need to check tings before pushing them to others xD)
02:00:883 (1) - i didn't understand why this nc, there's literally nothing here to explain the usage of another combo color, but on 02:01:046 (2) - which was added to the prev. combo color, what about adding the nc here instead?
Believe me or not, I did that on the Insane o.o
02:36:427 (1,2) - ncing again does different from 02:33:818 (7,1) - like mentioned above (atleast the spacing was better this time) i'm starting to think that this is done in purposite while i still don't get this inconsistency
Fixed as before
02:37:568 (4) - add nc since you added here 01:19:307 (1) - ?
Yep
02:49:960 (1,2) - it may be just me, but this spacing looks like 1/4 but it's 1/2 in fact, i recommend you increasing this to prevent from problems in the future
No, you're totally right here: even while playing I felt something was off but I thought I was just dumb xD Increased spacing between those 2 notes
02:51:264 (1,2) - 02:55:177 (1,2) - 02:56:481 (2,3) - ^
These are fine tho. Imo they are perfectly readable since I decrease a bit the SV
03:13:112 - an extended slider until 03:14:090 - would fit a lot better than nothing
Wuv wuv slider added
03:24:525 (4) - nc missing?
Yep
03:25:666 (5) - definetly missing nc, look similar patterns on other kiais
And yep once again
Hard!!

02:15:883 (3,1,2) - I highly recommend you to unstack this, it looks like a triplet while playing and it may confuse players since the ar is low.
I hated it too
03:13:112 - same suggestion of the extra diff, btw do it for every diff if you like the suggestion
Consistency
03:28:927 (3,4) - i didn't get the usage of this rhythm, this is the only occasion that you used this rhythm, if you look simillars parte, they are all like that 03:25:666 (1,2,3) - which imo is better because it shows the player that you're going for the vocals, and the current one is a mess between vocals and drums :/
My bad here probably but I think it still fits: 1 & 2 follow vocals as the rest, while the other part of the combo follows drums only.
I tried playing it and it felt fine, but I'll change it if someone else mentions it
03:54:362 (4) - why don't you use the same rhythm of the beginning? like this 00:04:796 (1) -
Changed the pattern, but I dunno... I don't think I want to use the same pattern as at the beginning since it doesn't fit (there is an extra object I can't ignore)
Normal!!

I like this diff, but it's way too dense imo mostly in the kiai, you could remove some unecessary that aren't following the vocals that is what you're mainly focusing.
The reason is mainly for the diff spread. The other diffs are dense too, so... (lame reasoning ftw lol)
02:49:960 - why on this section you're just following drums and them you suddenly start to get both drums and vocals at 02:55:666 - ? I think a consistency between them would improve the gameplay
Added a slider
Btw what happened to CS here e.e, it's way too high, i assume that you saved the insane as a new diff and you forgot to change CS. I also think that the AR could be lower, like 5 but it's not a big problem, this is almost an advanced so you may ignore this.
CS is intentional, while AR was set as a medium with the Hard and the Easy (which I need to finish asap). Basically, I used a set of settings to make the cursor movement the same everywhere (a bit complex to explain why :/)
That's it from me, Good Luck!

Thanks for your mod :3

Bonsai wrote:
for m4m ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
[Pick Me!!]
00:10:177 (1,2,3) - I feel like this should be spaced more, the absolute spacing is the same although the time interval is doubled, not really causing reading issues but those beats just don't feel emphasized as much as they should be imo
The difference between those spacings is the ting emphasizing the whole pattern tho. Try playing it and you'll notice the difference between my spacing and a bigger one
00:10:829 (3,1) - not really a big fan of that stack as (1) doesn't 'belong' to (3) in any way - Have you thought about making this a slider though? would fit really well imo
I can't click on the slider's tail and those 2 objects are stacked because I need a strong starting point and the stack is perfect in this case and seeing the previous pattern
00:18:003 (1,2) - feels a bit off since you don't expect two circles there after 00:16:699 (4) was only one - making this a slider would really fit as well here and differentiate these different patterns more
The piano is playing 2 notes and I map 2 notes. The reading is up to the player: we are on an Extra with AR9.3 to increase that "reading". As for now, it feels normal for me
00:20:286 (6) - not really anything happening on the tail of this slider, feels 'empty'
That's the meaning lol. I slider doesn't have a strong beat ever on its tail
00:32:351 (1) - It's not very clear what you focus on starting from here - you leave out 00:33:166 where both vocals and the low backgorund-thingy is and 00:33:655 (1,3) and 00:35:449 (1,2,3,4,5,1) definitely feel like you're mapping vocals here since the background-thingy has the exact same beat, but then suddenly 00:36:753 is left out which feels very weird to me as you expect to play along the vocals. I'd just make 00:36:264 (1) a slider until there (wow so many points about sliders lol)
00:30:394 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - follows instruments (drum most of the time. The last objects follow the bell). And yeah, I kinda switch from instruments to vocals, but that's because I want to map the best rhythm everywhere and it is usually the most prominent and natural to follow too for the player, so I don't see really a problem in this case
00:37:731 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3) - The first (1) get's really much emphasis here although that beat is always on slidertails afterwards which feels weird, and the first combo is very zig-zag but the following combos are just smooth circular flow which doesn't make much sense as it's the same musical pattern over and over again but plays completely different
That's because 00:37:731 (1) - is a stand in. That object serves just as a meaning for the rest of the pattern and gives more emphasis to 00:37:894 (2) - .
00:40:177 (1,2,3,4) - I didn't say it previously but generally you barely space your sliders at all compared to most of the circle-patterns, you gotta take slider leniency into consideration, they don't feel emphasized at all like this - Previous stuff like this: 00:03:655 (1,2) where the spacing is the same as 00:03:003 (1,2) and 00:03:329 (3,4) but plays way easier because of slider leniency and smooth circular flow insead of zigzag. 00:11:481 (1,2) also seems pretty 'boring' compared to the following circles. 00:13:438 (4,5) is nicely spaced, why not do it everywhere like this? o: 00:20:612 (1,2) is also very low. Generally, this doesn't seem like an 5,43*-map at all, more like 4,9* or something like that : \
Because I mostly use passive sliders here due to the constant following of vocals. If I put more emphasis on sliders out of the vocals it will feel off once I return ti them, therefore I avoid using them for emphasis. Also sliders have naturally more emphasis on their head
00:42:133 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - This is pretty clustered, the second (3,4) are barely visible, maybe change the direction of the second combo a bit, or curve it a bit too
All streams use straight lines on my map here and it like my signature, so no, I won't change it since it's perfectly playable too
00:42:786 (1,2,1,2,3) - Huuuuge jump between the first two circles and then random, inconsistent baby-spacing between the rest, feels reeaally weird, not emphasized at all
A replacing pattern could help me understand better what you mean tho. As it is now it perfectly follows what my concept of flow is.
00:45:068 (2,3,4) - (3,4) should be the bigger jump here, not (2,3) since (4) is definitely the most important beat here, it's what the previous notes build up to. I'd also suggest putting the NC on (4) and probably also removing it from 00:44:905 (1)
The jump is already placed between 3 & 4 tho ._. As for the combo-ing, I will revise it later as said in Lumael's mod
00:45:720 (5,6) - why such small spacing o: (6) is more important than the following (7,8), you gotta give the right emphasis
Sliders have natural emphasis on their head. I'm following vocals here lol I mean, on sliders
00:47:188 (3) - don't see the point of repeating this slider as 00:47:514 is where vocals start again and should belong to the next few notes, not like this. This also makes it impossible to NC with the lyrics which you seem to have wanted there, I'd suggest keeping the NCs consistently on the downbeats - 00:48:003 (3) - anyways
What belongs to the other combo is the space between 00:47:514 - and 00:47:677 - , but not the beat on 00:47:514 -
00:48:003 (3,4) - really low spacing again, I haven't looked at the whole diff yet but this is definitely not an Extra at all so far D:
This got changed with Lumael's mod already. It was indeed too small
00:50:530 (9) - this seems / is overmapped, there isn't such a beat there as in 00:50:204 (6)
Use 0% volume for sounds and you'll hear there is a drum there
00:51:916 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - there is literally nothing happening in the music that would suggest such huge jumps, why do you emphasize these unimportant notes so much more than the important ones?
Piano... As for the "quality" of the jumps, that's pretty subjective. That's what makes this map, MY map, because only I use such patterns and spacings and I also want to give importance to some notes more than others
00:53:873 (1,2,3,4) and 00:54:525 (1,2,3,4) - those are respectively four equally important beats, the (3)s aren't less important than the (2)s in any way, I'd strongly suggest evenly spaced patterns like squares or something
Why are you ignoring completely the cursor's movement? ;w; Like I said, try playing it and you'll see that it flows nicely. I reduce spacing there because I want to emphasize the next bigger spacings
00:55:340 (1,2,3) - These should also be spaced evenly, there's nothing more important on (3) than on (2), after all (2) is the upbeat so that should be accentuated if anything
Volume of the vocals. The objects (circles) are following the instruments while the spacing represents the vocals.
01:00:721 (5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - whyy soo loow spaaciing aaah
It looks like you and I have different points of view on the "spacing" matter lol. It's a matter of emphasis: low spacings give more emphasis to the bigger ones
01:03:655 (1,2,3) - Dunno what pattern you are going for here exactly but (1,2) plays way different than (2,3) lol, you have to make a 180°-turn from (1) to (2) but (2) flows directly into (3) - [url=http://puu.sh/l6Mhf/6fdc23439c.jpg]did you want something like this maybe
The screen doesn't load at all and I dunno why, but anyway, I changed the pattern since I didn't like it

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I think I'll stop with that diff now, it's basically the same stuff over and over again, mainly very unreasonable spacing, a lot of parts that are just way too easy for this diff, and generally the map seems very unpolished as there aren't many recognizeable patterns, things overlap weirdly our touch slightly like 01:12:133 (4,2) which is really lewd Why, and many parts witch sliders involved play really weird like 01:11:318 (1,2,3,4) where (1,2) is an extremely uncomfortable thing to play Did you play it? because of the sharp turns but then (3,4) and also 01:12:622 (1,2) paly really smooth (but look really bad imo bc the extended sliderpaths don't line up with the circles, it just looks like you placed them very rushed and didn't polish them at all I spent quite a few weeks on it. What makes you think I didn't do it on purpose maybe lol. Yet another weird, randomly low spacing at 01:15:068 (3,4,5,6,7) which flows into each other directly so it almost plays like a Normal; again at 01:15:883 (1,2) low spacing, not taking slider leniency into consideration, yaddayaddayadda I'll just stop here, lower diffs probably have the same problems, don't want to look at them, sry for being kinda harsh, I'm a bit tired and got stuff to do and expected more tbh : \ I did expect more too, dw I hope you understand my points and can apply them to the rest of your maps though, good luck!
oh yeah I forgot, the NC's are pretty inconsistent throughout the whole diff if I remember correctly I was going to do so xP

Hm... I guess thanks for the mod, but I should also point out this:

Lumael wrote:
@Bonsai: take in mind that mapping is really subjetive and if something doesn't look good/make sense for you doesn't mean it's wrong

Checking NCs here and there and finishing up the Easy + some volume adjustments I forgot to do earlier lol

Sotarks

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Sotarks 2015-11-02T21:31:58+00:00

Bonsai wrote:
[Sotark's Insane]
00:03:655 (1,2,3) - why is (2,3) so spaced when everything else in this intro is spaced so evenly? //I changed the patern actually.
00:10:177 (1,2,3) - those are really important beats that should be properly emphasized, not yet another boring stack like 00:06:264 (1,1,1,1,1) Also suggesting to make 00:10:829 (3,4) a slider //Okay for the slider
00:06:264 (1,1,1,1,1) - The last one of these is something completely different, the beginning of a new combo, and should not be grouped with the previous ones //Okay, changed the patern.
00:12:460 (5) - Plays very weird bc the important beat is at the tail of this slider, but the slidertail doesn't give any emphasis at all - suggesting to make this a circle and then a 1/1-slider since there's the long, holding vocal //Fixed/color]
00:14:090 (1) - why is this a slider though? Those are two separate, distinct beats
00:14:742 (3) should get more emphasis than the rest as the beat here is way more important than the rest
00:15:068 (5) - again not a good object choice, gives exactly wrong emphasis
00:16:699 (1,2) - there's nothing on the head of (2) O.o just make this one 1/1-slider. same with 00:19:307 (1,2) //Fixed
00:17:514 (5) - same emphasis-thing again. also at 00:20:123 (5) and 00:24:036 (5) - I'll just stop pointing those out
00:18:655 (4) - leaving out the beat at 00:18:818 which has always been mapped previously, feels off
00:18:655 (4,1) - why such low spacing O.o
00:20:612 (1,2) - why did you lower the SV here? There's like double the stuff happening as previously, if anything you should raise the SV //To follow the weird sound as the begining.
00:25:177 (3,4) - there's important beats on these two notes that weren't at 00:25:014 (2) for example, stacking them is the opposite of what you want to do, you want to give (3) and (4) more emphasis than (2) by making them higher spaced, and like sharper angles and all that stuff that gives emphasis
00:27:460 (3,6,3,6) - these sliders aren't fitting as there are more distinct claps on the tails of the (3)s whereas there are none on the tails of the (6)s, so mapping them exactly the same is not good.

Lasse wrote:
small m4m

Sotarks' Insane
od7 on a 5*+ map? the way easier nonGD insane is OD7, maybe use 8 or at least 7.5, would ift better with the difficulty of the song and spread in general
00:10:014 (8,1) - whis is this jump the smallest, even though 1 is a much more emphasized beat than the pattern before?
00:11:481 (1) - idk about that nc, I guess it's a strong downbeat, maybe you should remove it from 00:11:318 (1) - instead
00:11:481 (1,2) - wonky slider to ricle movement here, move 2 right or sth
00:14:090 (1) - remove that red anchor in the middle, it looks bad
00:14:905 (4,5) - that angle + 5's direction don't work that well together. try rotating 5 by 90° or sth clockwise
00:15:068 (5) - extend to 1/1 to better go with the vocals?
00:15:557 (1,2,3,4) - fix this with the create pattern tool, it looks off
00:19:307 (1,2,3,4,5) - this is some really weird flow

00:21:916 (1) - so you made this sound a stream at 00:21:427 (1) - but a slider here? make it a 1/4 repeating slider at least, suddenly ignoring it and switching to vocals feels really bad and kinda random. you are not mapping a light insane or sth, you can put sth better here
00:31:862 (5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - here for example it's fine, cause the sound the stream is mapped to actually ends where the slider starts
00:32:840 (2) - pls make this a normal slider, it really doesnt fit here musically and aesthetically
also you are completely ignoring that every audible sound in the background, how about http://i.imgur.com/20ZTcHE.jpg
00:35:449 (2,3,4) - same for that sound

00:47:188 (3) - suddenly putting focus on the red tick for no apparent reason plays really bad, 00:47:351 this is such a strong drum beat too
00:49:633 (2,3) - ^
00:48:329 such a strong drum beat, don'tmake this a sliderend pls
00:50:612 (1,2,3,4) - again, I get that you want to follow the vocals, but it's really weird to play
00:55:829 (4) - ^
00:57:460 (2) - i'll stop mentioning those now, I think you get what I mean

00:53:465 note here would go well with the music

00:59:090 (3,5) - are the most emphasized notes of this pattern, so the jumps to them should be the biggest, or make 00:58:927 (2,3,4,5,6) - actually perfect star with ctrl-shift-d

01:02:351 (1,2,3,4) - this actually goes well with the music, but you should really fix the blanketing and make it perfect, it's not that hard and looks muc hbetter

01:03:655 (1,4) - unnecessary overlap and flow could be better

01:04:960 (1,2,3,4) - 2-3 jump should not be smaller than 3-4, just listen to the music

01:10:177 (1,2,3,4) - good fitting pattern but needs some polishing

01:11:644 (2,3,4,5) - sudden switch to red ticks plays really bad and feels off

01:14:905 (6,7,8) - this angle makes that jump way harder to play than it actually is considering the spacing

01:24:525 (1,1,1,1) - use at least somehow equal spacing herem having two of them nearly stacked and the others @roughly 1x feel very random

01:28:438 (1,2,3) - jump to 3 should be the biggest, not the one to 2, considering the intensity

01:29:579 (2,3,4) - placement of this feels really random

01:40:177 - like 00:21:427 (1) -

01:42:133 (4) - so unfitting shape and again ignoring strong beats for like the 50th time in order follow the vocals (which can still be done without having really strong beats on sliderends), also the flow to 01:42:623 (5) - is really bad

01:43:927 (1) - normal curved slider or at least symmetric shape

01:44:905 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - this spacing change, especially by putting it at 01:45:231 (9) - is in no way supported by the music

01:48:003 (1) - those shapes :/ if you make a slider like that at least make it in a way to blanket sth to make it look a bit less random, or just use more normal shapes
01:49:960 (4,7) - extend those notes by making them kicksliders, doesnt really change how it's played but supports the synth sounds
01:51:101 (2) - this is clearly 3x1/4, no reason undermap that here

01:51:753 (5,1) - placement looks so random, move blanket or completely rearrange
01:53:057 (5,1) - ^

01:51:916 (1,2,3,4,5) - that whole red tick thing again

01:53:710 (2,3,4) - missed a 1/4 somewhere here

01:55:177 (3,4,5,6,1) - equal spacing pls

01:55:829 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - how about rotating each one a bit, it's kinda boring like that, but feel free to keep it as it plays fine

02:02:677 (1,1,2,3,4) - bad flow and nothing really calls for that jump spacing here
02:03:655 (4,5,6,7) - dont like the flow here
02:04:960 (1,2,3) - wawwwaw change to red tick thing again, won't keep mentioning it or this mod would be endless
02:08:873 (3) - shape doesnt work well here again

02:10:177 (1,2,3,4) - blankets need some polishing

02:13:601 (1,2,3,4) - pattern and spacing doesn't really fit here
02:14:090 (4) - please redraw that slider, it' disgusting, you could also blanket 02:14:579 (5) - while at it

02:18:003 (1,2,3) - red tick thing and the sliders nearly overlap, looks bad

02:20:612 (1,2,3,4) - not completely same shape, looks really unpolished

02:27:623 (2,3,4,5) - random overlap + that slider shape, looks really bad

03:08:220 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1) - this looks really bad, make it some normal shape pls

03:07:568 (1,2,3,4) - fix this star

03:13:112 put a note here like on the other high diffs, feels really ignored otherwise
03:20:612 (1) - needs some work

03:42:786 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - pattern could need some form of structure, it looks like two badly made stars thrown together

04:01:699 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - bad shape
04:02:351 (5) - should be a slider

edit: just read bonsai's post and that pretty much summs up my concers with this diff
good luck with this

Thanks for the mod, (I didn't put fixed everywhere 'cause I changed lot's of stuff etc..)

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Sc4v4ng3r

1,232 posts

Joined August 2014

Sc4v4ng3r 2015-11-04T09:27:08+00:00

Hey there~ M4M from your queue~

Unrankable issues
My opinion which I highly recommend changing it
Small suggestions/Nazi

[General]

All difficulties except Extra has widescreen support on, better uncheck that.
Why are there so less custom hitsounds :/ Lack of snares(hit-claps) and finishes which can't really be heard, and the relatively low hit-normal can really give players a hard time, as they won't get much audio feedbacks. I hope you are adding more custom hitsounds, instead of the default ones right now :3

[Normal!!]

The short combos makes the difficulty look like eINess' lol
00:03:655 (4,1) - The NC here, as well as 01:21:916 (4,1) - and 03:55:829 (4,1) - this, is bit weird, considering you placed NCs on downbeats, instead of (1) where the beat is comparatively weaker than (4).
00:36:916 (2,1) - Well again, the NC pattering here is kinda weird, which goes same for other similar notes. The first thing is that the NC doesn't land on a downbeat, which you have been following until now. Second thing is, while NC does notify the 2/1 to 1/1 rhythm change, it still might confuse some newer players, as changing their rhythm from 2/1 to 1/1 is a little bit confusing.
00:59:090 (4,1,2) - Honestly I don't like how the overlaps work here. I mean, when they were clearly avoidable, deciding to keep the overlap kinda makes the difficulty look unpolished :/ You can try this pattern to minimize the overlaps.
01:43:438 (3,1) - Personally I'm not a fan of the 'sharp' angle curve here. As the red anchor on (3) isn't that noticeable by newer players, they will be having a hard time to suddenly sharply curve their movement at (1). I would prefer you to make the red anchor on (3) more noticeable, to allow newer players to prepare for a sharp curve.
02:54:525 (3) - This slider is pretty inconsistent compared to the others in the same combo; I am aware that this slider is following the instrument in the background, but at least you should have added a repeat onto this slider, or add a circle at 02:54:851 - to keep the consistency while following that instrument as well, to not confuse newer players.
03:57:460 (2,3,4,1) - These notes, as well as all other 3-plets that goes in a straight line, does not induce much fun on them as it is way too linear. You could have add some zig-zag motion between each circles, like you did in (4) to (1).
The issues are not that serious, but definitely worth to amend them before pushing this on.

[Hard!!]

00:14:742 (3,2) - The overlap here is way too excessive; and adding on to that they aren't the same shape even If you were trying to make a 'distinction' between them by using a different kind of a slider, the difference isn't really noticeable during gameplay; it may be way too confusing right now. At least try to make distinction between them, that may help. I don't know, I don't like to use overlaps :/
00:45:883 (2) - Ok I don't really get why do you stop the motion for the players so much, especially in the kiai. Chorus is supposed to be the most excited part of the song, yet stopping the players' motion will not fit nicely with the song, as the kiai should be bit more harder than other parts for it being the most excited part. Due to this, (for example)00:48:492 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this pattern utilizes such a small space of the playfield, when you could have included more dynamic range of movements. Maybe it is just a difference in mapping styles, but I don't see a clear reason for this.
The thing that I've noticed in kiai times, is that the NCs are quite inconsistent. While I can understand 00:46:536 (1) - this slider as it 'blocks' the downbeat, 00:47:514 (1) - this note and some other similar notes does make the combos look inconsistent. Some NCs just follows the vocals, while all other parts of the map followed the synth, which looks pretty unstructured if you ask me.
01:20:449 (1) - Okay especially this note. Stopping motion here seems really unfitting, as it is a downbeat, it has a strong beat on it, and there is a strong instruments here that goes against the stopping of motion.
02:50:775 (3) - The stack on this note makes it be way too close to the head of 02:49:960 (1) - this slider, which breaks off the pattern you were trying to make using 02:49:960 (1,2,3) - these notes. Try to move this along with 02:51:264 (1) - this lower at least, to keep the pattern more cleaner.
02:58:438 (1,2,3) - This trap pattern, doesn't go along with the trap made earlier at 00:06:264 (1,2,3,4) - and some other similar traps earlier, as the distance between them are not consistent; players might think that this trap has a bigger rhythmic gap than 00:06:264 (1,2,3,4) - these did, but actually they are the same.
Honestly I believe the difficulty could use a little bit more of polishing, right now it looks a bit... awkward.

That is all from me. Sorry if some points didn't really make sense, still sick and recovering :/
GL!

Feb

1,027 posts

Joined June 2014

Feb 2015-11-05T00:12:18+00:00

m4m

[General]

catchy song.
nr.3 is hawt

i might fill sth here or not.
Some parts might apply to later parts in the map or on other difficulties.
tbh your insane is pretty gud.
sotarks bg in jpg to safe filesize download

[Pick me!!]
So I think the hardest part in this diff is that it's mapped as a Insane with higher jumps and that was prolly everyones concerns.

00:32:921 (3) - I KNOW it's because of that thingy sound, but srsly no one expects a triplet in a very very very very very slow part. I mean you usually place them to emphasize a certain pattern. Here you can do two things delte the note or give it spacing. (not much ofc).
00:42:133 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - looks supergood plays superbad. No not because it's overlapping it's because it's huge spacing, but before that the spacing is very low compared to other spots. You should space the jumps before the stream more to make the stream more comfortable to play.
00:50:123 (5,6,7) - space this away. This insane spacing.
01:11:318 (1,2,3,4) - things like this for example you put here reverse and I know why you are doing this. BUT Reverses are used to not emphasize sth in the song. It's the Climax of the kiai.. so yeah figure it out. I won't be the only one saying this prolly >:
So I said it's mapped as an Insane but with higher jumps why? 01:01:046 (1,2,3,4) - I know why are you doing this and It plays alright but it's to easy for an extra in a kiai (I'm not telling you to place jumps here), but it definitly can take some buffs.
01:10:340 (6) - nc
01:11:318 (1) - delete nc.
01:15:557 (1) - why is this not a slider? It's a holding sound not a pause.
01:13:927 (5) - things like this break the flow very hard
01:36:264 (1,2) - you do doublestacks here and not after makes it awkward to play decide for one pattern. I can tell you why this is the case.
You did a double stack the music is the same (ok!), circle 3 and 4 are seperated, but the music doesn't change at all (huh?)
01:40:503 (2,4) - stack on head flows better.
01:44:579 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - this kind of stuff doesn't play well triplet triplet on a stack. >:
But you could potentially do a stack in a 5-note burst. right after (the music supports this).
02:17:188 (1) - i hope this is not a blanket.
02:31:046 (2) - your reverses kill again the climax >:
02:49:796 (6) - superhard to tell this is 1/2 beats long.
02:49:960 (1) - uh? map it?
03:00:231 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - this is also a reason ppl complain about this diff. This is mapped like a insane. It's not challenging at all + you ignore the sounds in the background entirely.
03:07:731 (2,3) - ctrl+g .. yyy it's a square i know but it plays horrible.
03:29:090 (4) - x200y160 - what is this flow pls (at least in that direction)
03:36:101 (5,6,7) - flow killing objects.
03:27:133 (4) - Honestly I would just NC this everytime she finished saying the honey come thing to make clear there is a new pattern now.

[the gd insane]
holyshit that bg is ugly >: no offense
so the main problem is exact the opposite of the later diff. it plays super good, but the main problem is that its very unclean. The uncleaniness isn't noticeable while playing, but while watching it is. I list some stuff downbelow. Also you stack sometimes and sometimes you don't which is well not good.

00:10:829 (3,1) - that overlap should be there ewww.
00:19:307 (1) - would u stack this pls
00:13:438 (4,1) - so overalapping is your thing okayyyyy
00:14:742 (3) - move this away from the slider a bit.
00:21:916 (1) - nc for sv change.
00:22:568 (3) - don't overlap this pls
00:26:318 (3,4) - wat is that how about giving it a little bit more spacing so it doesn't look that bad >:
00:47:025 (2) - aawww cmon these overlaps suck.
00:47:840 (7) - here you stack again ... pls decide for one thing.
00:59:090 (3) - is this uhh a blanket?
01:14:905 (6,7) - I think that jumps is a bit large not only in the sense of these two, just bcs you're leading up after that. A insane player most likely wants to go back after this huge jump.
01:43:112 (2) - single notes are better.

you get the general idea by now... I hope. The diff is super playable and fine on its own, but the random overlaps and genereal uncleaniness make it hard to look at. It's just very untidy. Fix that and your diff is pretty stable.

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