sky_delta - Kreuz · forum

Atsuro

1,290 posts

Joined January 2013

Atsuro 2016-06-06T19:04:11+00:00

Qualified

pishifat

osu! Paragon

3,802 posts

Joined August 2013

pishifat 2016-08-24T03:46:58+00:00

irre
00:43:318 (4,5) - spacing
00:52:581 (1,2,3) - also spacing
01:00:941 (1,2,1) - was the broken stacking on the bn test part of the test or was it irreversible not knowing how to map
02:01:432 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - song is groupings of 3 yet ur rhythm is groupings of what

another
00:33:892 (2) - 00:34:302 (3,4) - what is neatness
00:50:614 (1,2,3) - stack breaks spacing
01:00:777 (6,7,1) - could you make spacing less samey between different snaps https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5921926 being up there works ok for big 1/1
00:55:859 (1) - comboing for the next 5 seconds where is the logic
01:19:466 (1,2) - spacingmore pls after loads of 1/4sliderleneiecnyjump this one looks like it could be continuing that (while bigger spacing would make it not (so do that))
01:31:269 (4,1) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5921671 petition against unjustified baby spacing

brodude
could u not use insane level spacing techniques on a hard
like 1/2 spacing shouldn't double in distance since that makes interpreting rhythm through spacing confusion. spacing variation within a certain range is fine tho
00:42:417 (4,1,2) - as an example 1,2 is twice as big as 4,1 (which on hards usually means 1/1 clicking), but here you're telling players spacing isn't indicative of when 2 click
00:54:548 (1,2) - then when u use 1/1 that's distance snapped it's ??????? omg i dont know when to click circles
there's only a few places you use mlg spacing actually so adjusting won't ruin everything

normal
00:13:073 (5) - u cant like kroytz tried and failed
01:45:367 (1,2) - directstacksundersliders plsno scrubs cant read space it out and nobody struggles
01:49:301 (3,4) - i know you didnt take the bn test but multi repeat 1/2 on normal is a nope babies cant react in time for the second repeat

beginner
00:30:286 (2,4) - 00:52:909 (4,2) - get some more b e g i n n e r friendly placements do modders need to tell you why
01:00:450 (2) - 1 1/2 gap in the entire map uh just circle and use a 3/2 gap it'll be easier to interpret at this point

things on e/n/h are what the pop is for
if you dont end up changing those, ask mako for a rebubbl... oh.

Shiranai

2,186 posts

Joined August 2012

Shiranai 2016-08-24T03:53:00+00:00

I will rebubble dw!

Side

1,127 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Side 2016-08-24T15:35:45+00:00

Applied all changes except in the another the one around 1:00. Did something different instead of your suggestion.

Also applied the changes for broseph's diff (plz don't kill me brewsef ;-;)

Waiting on irre for now.

Mako Sakata wrote:
I will rebubble dw!

#BringBackMako2016

Thanks poshi :v

Irreversible

osu! Alumni

4,315 posts

Joined December 2011

Irreversible 2016-08-24T19:26:46+00:00

osu file format v14

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fixed all

pishifat

osu! Paragon

3,802 posts

Joined August 2013

pishifat 2016-08-25T01:31:54+00:00

thx

BrosephStalin

126 posts

Joined June 2013

BrosephStalin 2016-09-08T01:40:07+00:00

Side wrote:
Also applied the changes for broseph's diff (plz don't kill me brewsef ;-;)

wow rude.

no jk it's all good, I haven't done the touching of the circles in a while.

Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2016-10-13T22:59:57+00:00

adding whistle on the ending spinner like atsuro did sounds pretty nice

cs6.5li
suprisingly playable for 6* with these settings
I feel like ar 9.2 or 9.3 is enough, the patterns aren't very complex, moderate bpm and with this cs screen feels empty already anyways

00:30:122 (4,1) - such a pain to snap with this angle and big spacing change and then the slider goes back into the direction from before and all that.
how about stacking tail on 00:29:630 (1) - instead? http://i.imgur.com/xe06Qg8.jpg
01:12:089 (1) - really seems like it should be slower/not so extremely different from 01:06:187 (1) - pitch of the piano they seem to follow is just a bit higher here so having them so different seems weird. or is there some other reasoning?
01:41:433 (1,5,6,7) - http://i.imgur.com/M3axKxe.jpg

another
00:05:532 (2,3,4,1) - can you make autostacking not kill your pattern?
00:33:892 (2,3,4) - more autostack fun
00:44:712 (1) - seems to miss hitsound additions?
00:55:532 (3) - you nc spam all these other things, so why not here?
01:45:367 (1) - so many ways to rotate this so it looks nicer.

atsuro
visuals are triggering but whatever
01:19:794 (2,4,5,6) - http://i.imgur.com/0tDUHgE.jpg though, at least this could be fixed by manually moving the stack
01:37:990 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - can you do something about this being all counterclockwise movement
until 01:44:875 - ?

broseph
00:06:515 (2,3,4,5) - pattern that doesnt contain stack under sliderend and hides half of 4 would be nice http://i.imgur.com/7Fuvtgh.jpg
00:53:237 (1) - what's with the random spacing drop on an emphasized sound?
00:56:351 (2) - ^ / 00:58:974 (2) - not stacking would be great
01:44:875 (5,6,1) - can you at least make this symmetric with itself? looks really off http://i.imgur.com/VpglQPl.jpg
01:47:989 (1) - whole thing would probably play nicer if you just ctrlg'd this
01:59:793 (1,2,3) - can you make this actually follow the song? something similar to normal but with 1/4 repeats on 02:00:448 - or something would be great
having 02:00:285 - clickable but 02:00:448 - not is lol

nm
01:18:155 (4) - eww
01:28:646 - should probably have some hitsound

b
00:07:991 (3) - what is this even mapped to. clicking on barely audible things will just cofuse "beginners". either just have a a gap here or mabye add repeat on 2
feel like you could put at least one 2/1 gap in the second kiai, somewhere around the middle. right now you're just holding down buttons with 1/1 gaps inbetween the whole time

okay let me know when everything is updated

Atsuro

1,290 posts

Joined January 2013

Atsuro 2016-10-14T00:10:38+00:00

Lasse wrote:
adding whistle on the ending spinner like atsuro did sounds pretty nice

atsuro
visuals are triggering but whatever w/e
01:19:794 (2,4,5,6) - http://i.imgur.com/0tDUHgE.jpg though, at least this could be fixed by manually moving the stack y
01:37:990 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - can you do something about this being all counterclockwise movement
until 01:44:875 - ? y

Ty

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Side

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Side 2016-10-14T02:06:42+00:00

Lasse wrote:
adding whistle on the ending spinner like atsuro did sounds pretty nice it does!

another
00:05:532 (2,3,4,1) - can you make autostacking not kill your pattern? Tbh doesn't look as bad and messes up the star afterward otherwise.
00:33:892 (2,3,4) - more autostack fun I offstacked this one though cuz yeh
00:44:712 (1) - seems to miss hitsound additions? Eh not really the whistles were used to compliment the piano ish sound which doesn't happen here so I just keep drum sample for that kick sound.
00:55:532 (3) - you nc spam all these other things, so why not here? Sure
01:45:367 (1) - so many ways to rotate this so it looks nicer. Rotated 01:45:367 (1) - 01:45:858 (3) - 01:46:350 (1) - slightly

nm
01:18:155 (4) - eww p
01:28:646 - should probably have some hitsound whistled

b
00:07:991 (3) - what is this even mapped to. clicking on barely audible things will just cofuse "beginners". either just have a a gap here or mabye add repeat on 2 Remapped intro using repeats instead lul
feel like you could put at least one 2/1 gap in the second kiai, somewhere around the middle. right now you're just holding down buttons with 1/1 gaps inbetween the whole time Not sure I understood that cuz there's a pretty good mix of 2/1 and 1/1 with notes a couple repeats etc. I changed 01:34:548 (2,3) - to a 1/1 and note just cuz it made a bit more sense to me that way looking back. Hope that's ok

okay let me know when everything is updated

Will update once the rest are ready

Thanks!!

Irreversible

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Irreversible 2016-10-14T21:52:37+00:00

Lasse wrote:
adding whistle on the ending spinner like atsuro did sounds pretty nice

cs6.5li
suprisingly playable for 6* with these settings
I feel like ar 9.2 or 9.3 is enough, the patterns aren't very complex, moderate bpm and with this cs screen feels empty already anyways yeaaa

00:30:122 (4,1) - such a pain to snap with this angle and big spacing change and then the slider goes back into the direction from before and all that.
how about stacking tail on 00:29:630 (1) - instead? http://i.imgur.com/xe06Qg8.jpg fixed
01:12:089 (1) - really seems like it should be slower/not so extremely different from 01:06:187 (1) - pitch of the piano they seem to follow is just a bit higher here so having them so different seems weird. or is there some other reasoning? there isn't but to be honest i don't know, it feels more fitting like this xD
01:41:433 (1,5,6,7) - http://i.imgur.com/M3axKxe.jpg fixed? maybe?

http://puu.sh/rJ7hX/7bef4d2f8e.txt

Side

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Side 2016-10-15T05:20:27+00:00

All diffs updated. The changes in brosephs were pretty small and made sense so I applied all except for the stacks at around 0:56 and 0:58 cuz they seemed fine overall.

Lasse

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Lasse 2016-10-15T20:43:44+00:00

Mako Sakata wrote:
I will rebubble dw!

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2016-10-15T20:47:50+00:00

Hey hi

rip me Side will slap me

Side

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Side 2016-10-15T20:49:43+00:00

Wew

Nozhomi wrote:
Hey hi

rip me Side will slap me

There's always showdown :^)

Shiranai

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Shiranai 2016-10-16T18:05:44+00:00

It's happening, congrats!
Thanks Lasse for taking care this for me :p

ReFaller

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ReFaller 2016-10-22T19:24:02+00:00

It's my first time when I'm doing something which may cause DQ.

[Broseph's Advanced]
I don't know in what order guest mappers brought diffs here, but your patterns are saying that you planned to make a Hyper. (I assume you finished this diff before Atsuro)
Due to spacing which you used, map has very bad readability. It will be resolved when you will apply +0,5 AR (believe me, 7,5 AR works better for your patterns).

Time to few worst patterns:

00:15:696 (2,3,4) - It is very confusing to play. There is no special sounds to make hard rhythm. Remove 00:16:023 (3,4) and add reverse on 00:15:696 (2). You not need to adjust spacing, it will be fine with 1/1 beat pause.
00:34:220 (6,7) - This one for 100% should be a slider, due to difficulties with playing.
00:38:810 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Pattern has usage for Insane/Another and higher, very bad readability and very bad flow especially second combo is copypasted.

01:03:564 (1,2,3,1) - This one is optional, but also recommended. You could return SV to 1,00 and map balanced beat between Normal and Hyper diffs.

Not to fix below
@Side 00:29:630 (1,2,3,4) - Normal diff - i like this pattern, I thought about myself when played it.

Irreversible

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Irreversible 2016-10-22T20:18:01+00:00

DQ, the points above are valid.

Additionally:

sry side im too lazy to rewrite XD

Side

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Side 2016-10-22T20:35:01+00:00

ReFaller wrote:
It's my first time when I'm doing something which may cause DQ. No problem

[Broseph's Advanced]
I don't know in what order guest mappers brought diffs here, but your patterns are saying that you planned to make a Hyper. (I assume you finished this diff before Atsuro)
Due to spacing which you used, map has very bad readability. It will be resolved when you will apply +0,5 AR (believe me, 7,5 AR works better for your patterns). I agree tbh 7.5 would help with readability due to density

Time to few worst patterns:
00:15:696 (2,3,4) - It is very confusing to play. There is no special sounds to make hard rhythm. Remove 00:16:023 (3,4) and add reverse on 00:15:696 (2). You not need to adjust spacing, it will be fine with 1/1 beat pause. Now irre also pointed this out but tbh the rhythm actually goes with the music. It can be heard more clearly at 75% or 50% 00:15:941 - and 00:16:023 - both have this kind of clap kick rhythm so I think this pattern actually helps well with distinguishing this weird blue tick rhythm.
00:34:220 (6,7) - This one for 100% should be a slider, due to difficulties with playing. True agreed and changed.
00:38:810 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Pattern has usage for Insane/Another and higher, very bad readability and very bad flow especially second combo is copypasted. I actually really love this pattern! Gonna steal it for some other map someday xd

01:03:564 (1,2,3,1) - This one is optional, but also recommended. You could return SV to 1,00 and map balanced beat between Normal and Hyper diffs.
Maybe I didn't understand this one but I think I'll leave it as is just in case I did.

Not to fix below
@Side 00:29:630 (1,2,3,4) - Normal diff - i like this pattern, I thought about myself when played it. Thanks!

Thanks for the suggestions. Applied the suggestions by Irre (minus the first as explained above) Sorry Broseph I keep tinkering with ur diff now ;-; It's small changes though, I really like most of these patterns and didn't wanna touch them ever

Updated. Will wait for requalify.

Bara-

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Bara- 2016-10-30T15:45:40+00:00

Hi

[Broseph]
00:15:696 (2) - Shorten by 1/4 and add a circle at 00:15:941. This way the rhythm won't feel awkward. Due to the fact that the rhythm is rather odd, the playability is also rather odd. By adding a circle instead of using a 3/4 slider, you can make it feel more natural
00:18:482 (3,4,1) - Please increase spacing to approx 2.50 so the sliders don't overlap anymore
00:50:941 (3,4,5) - Rip blankets
01:28:646 (1,2,3) - 2.50 DS please ^^
01:41:433 (1,2,3,4,5) - This honestly feels too hard for an Advanced, but it might be just me

[Atsuro]
00:23:728 (9) - NC, the sound is different compared to the previous notes of the same combo

[Irre]
01:06:187 (1,1) - Why the huge change in SV? The 2nd slider is 3x faster. Why not gradually make it faster? So give a 0.25SV to 01:08:810 (1) - , a 0.33SV to 01:10:122 (1) - , 0.42 to 01:11:597 (4) - and 0.5 for 01:12:089 (1) -. Or at least lower the SV from 0.5 to 0.33 so the huge SV change is much less
01:26:023 (1) - End it 1/2 earlier and add a circle at the current end to follow the paino better?
01:27:171 (1) - ^^, this is a 4x increase, but the sound is still soo calm and quiet. I'd much rather prefer this slider to be much slower
01:51:268 (1) - I think it'd be cool if you put a slow slider here for the fading

Call me to get it back on track!

BrosephStalin

126 posts

Joined June 2013

BrosephStalin 2016-10-30T18:03:54+00:00

Bara- wrote:
Hi

[Broseph]
00:15:696 (2) - Shorten by 1/4 and add a circle at 00:15:941. This way the rhythm won't feel awkward. Due to the fact that the rhythm is rather odd, the playability is also rather odd. By adding a circle instead of using a 3/4 slider, you can make it feel more natural Fixed
00:18:482 (3,4,1) - Please increase spacing to approx 2.50 so the sliders don't overlap anymore Whoops my bad
00:50:941 (3,4,5) - Rip blankets Rip I guess I dunno what you wanted me to do here tho.
01:28:646 (1,2,3) - 2.50 DS please ^^ Okkkkk
01:41:433 (1,2,3,4,5) - This honestly feels too hard for an Advanced, but it might be just me yeh. changed it into a coolio 15 degree pattern now with sliders!!!

thankz

if u asked me to map this diff now instead of whenever you asked me it'd be a lot different than it is now tbh

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Irreversible

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4,315 posts

Joined December 2011

Irreversible 2016-10-30T18:29:23+00:00

Bara- wrote:
[Irre]

01:06:187 (1,1) - Why the huge change in SV? The 2nd slider is 3x faster. Why not gradually make it faster? So give a 0.25SV to 01:08:810 (1) - , a 0.33SV to 01:10:122 (1) - , 0.42 to 01:11:597 (4) - and 0.5 for 01:12:089 (1) -. Or at least lower the SV from 0.5 to 0.33 so the huge SV change is much less I don't quite get the fuzz about these sliders! Yeah, the second slider is much faster but the piano is there, so that makes sense imo. Increasing the SV gradually doesn't make that much sense anyway, i mean, can you hear a progression?
01:26:023 (1) - End it 1/2 earlier and add a circle at the current end to follow the paino better? no, that really kills the subtle feeling
01:27:171 (1) - ^^, this is a 4x increase, but the sound is still soo calm and quiet. I'd much rather prefer this slider to be much slower You keep argueing about the multiplicator, where it really doesn't make too much sense imo XD this sound sounds like it should be a bit faster, which is totally what i went for here
01:51:268 (1) - I think it'd be cool if you put a slow slider here for the fading Cute idea.

Call me to get it back on track!

Sorry for denying all of your progression changes, but they felt kind of not fitting.. if you need more elaboration, call me!

Irr

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