sky_delta - Kreuz · forum

Side

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Side 2015-11-01T20:05:44+00:00

suricate1 wrote:
Hello M4M
Beginner= Flawless woo!
Normal = Pefect, but
01:59:629 - u forgot a important hit here
actually it has like a pause like the other parts 01:53:235 (1,2,3) - 01:55:858 (1,2,3) - it's a pattern I wanted to use to keep this part from being so dense
Broseph's Advanced =Looks SS except for
01:20:777 (1,2,3) - so much overlaps (On behalf of broseph's absence) I think this is okay it doesn't play badly or affect readability plus I wouldn't see a way to change this if I wanted without having to change a lot of other stuff so I think it's fine this way.

Another =
i feel the flow speed in gameplay so low for a another diff:/
00:13:237 (8) - i dont feel the need of this slider, maybe u can use only circles at this stream and progressive up spacement Sounds like a good idea but I wanted to emphasize the little twinkly instrument thing that plays 3 notes and still compliment the synth building up also so I did it this way as a result. Also plays well imo.
01:17:827 (1) - its overmap, dont have sounds to this slider and u forgot the sound in 01:17:745 - This part emphasizes the louder breakcore-y type rhythm. And regarding that slider it's 1/8 if you listen to that part it's even more noticeable in 75% or 50%. Didn't map that sound because I wasn't focusing on the twinkly instrument thing here it's pretty much all about the drums.
01:21:597 (5) - overmap nope this is meant to be 1/8.
the rest looks fine
Good Luck

Removed your box for formatting.

Thanks for the mod!

George

George 2015-11-02T03:17:09+00:00

---Beginner---
00:03:400 (1,3) - For the easiest diff in the set I'd recommend only letting the slider repeat once
00:36:187 (3) - ^
00:36:187 (3,1,2) - I would try to clean this form up so it doesn't seem so ugly and doesn't confuse people

---Normal---
00:26:351 (6,2) - I would try to remove this overlap
01:44:384 (6) - I would try to lower this slider so it doesn't go under the health bar

---Advanced---
01:54:219 (3,1) - Don't change DS here
01:56:842 (3,1) - ^

---Hyper---
00:06:679 (3) - This slider seems to curved

---Another---
01:29:630 (1,2) - Remove overlap

idk what to say man beside this has a lot of potential imo

Shut Down

17 posts

Joined June 2015

Shut Down 2015-11-03T12:42:15+00:00

add tag: inukoro

no kds

Side

1,127 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Side 2015-11-05T19:26:00+00:00

George wrote:
---Beginner---
00:03:400 (1,3) - For the easiest diff in the set I'd recommend only letting the slider repeat once
00:36:187 (3) - ^ Eh. I dont' think it's that hard especially considering it's the first two notes. I also feel it follows the instrument thing a bit better this way.
00:36:187 (3,1,2) - I would try to clean this form up so it doesn't seem so ugly and doesn't confuse people Wasnt ugly but I did mean to remove the extra repeat here and missed this one on (3) so fixed I guess

---Normal---
00:26:351 (6,2) - I would try to remove this overlap Minor but I did want to fix the flow from 6 to 1 so kinda fixed but not really.
01:44:384 (6) - I would try to lower this slider so it doesn't go under the health bar lowered slightly.

---Advanced--- (In broseph's absence)
01:54:219 (3,1) - Don't change DS here
01:56:842 (3,1) - ^ Both look fine to me imo.

---Hyper---
00:06:679 (3) - This slider seems to curved

---Another---
01:29:630 (1,2) - Remove overlap I love this slider ;_; I would have to remove the long slider alltogether and I dont' think it's worth it for a small overlap. Added a note on 01:30:777 - though

idk what to say man beside this has a lot of potential imo

@Shut Down added tag since I have the video. Take the kds yo :v

Shiirn mods

Suricate

suricate1 wrote:
Shiirn's Extra

Check AiMod erros, unsnapped objects
00:05:532 (4) - make it in straight with followline moving to x336 y184, but it still a bad flow, then i sugest u to rotate this
00:14:220 (2) - so close of previus, move maybe x20 y20
00:14:220 (2) - flow assassinate, after a stream u could make it a perfect flow to ppls dont hate because miss at a bad flow
00:44:712 (1) - again a bad flow, the corretly would be to the right not to left
01:22:089 (1) - rip bad jumpers, but its fun
01:43:072 (5) - its look bad, rotate +100º degrees from center

01:45:694 (3) - make in straight moving x56 y88
01:46:678 (3) - move x456 y88 ^

Tarrasky

Tarrasky wrote:
[Shiirn's Extra]
[*]00:52:827 (3,4) - t is much more hard than your difficulty proposes in stars i think (5.56), I recommend you ask testplays and suggestions from players who play for this range of difficulty [/list]

"More stuff done I guess" - Shiirn 2015

Diffs updated. Thanks for the mods!

Rohit6

425 posts

Joined August 2013

Rohit6 2015-11-17T16:21:53+00:00

because someone asked me to :v)

Shiirn's Extra
1. 00:02:089 (1,4) - overlap end of 4 with start of 1
2. 00:09:630 (5,6,7) - really nitpicky thing but 5 is not pointing towards the 6 , flip it so it points towards 6
3. 00:11:761 (6) - curved too much blegh
4. 00:28:155 (5) - this ends on a stronger beat
5. 00:29:466 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - if you want to make this a bit more extra-y put the slider here 00:29:302 (3,1)
6. 00:32:089 (8) - Make it 2 circles
7. 00:32:417 (1,2,3) - repeat the same pattern you did earlier for better consistency
8. 00:44:384 (3,4) - try increasing sv to match the increasing intensity
9. 00:54:548 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - up the spacing here
10. 00:57:335 (2,4) - why does this not stack aaaa
11. 01:26:351 (7) - this shape doesnt look that nice , try a sliderwave
12. 01:27:171 (1) - add finish
13. 02:01:432 (2,3) - nice not stack :^)
14. 02:03:399 (1) - make it 2 circles because the end feels lackluster

Side

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Topic Starter

Side 2015-11-17T22:01:29+00:00

Rohit6 wrote:
because someone asked me to :v)

Waiting for dat 2 kds bonus huh :v

I'll mod your map soon (tm)

Side

1,127 posts

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Topic Starter

Side 2015-11-22T19:36:46+00:00

K Irre's diff added. For real no more diffs now xD

Shut Down

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Shut Down 2015-11-29T03:59:24+00:00

Add gd

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128,208,97498,6,0,P|120:164|116:128,1,75
200,164,97826,2,0,P|216:204|216:244,1,75
280,108,98154,2,0,L|444:112,2,150
216,192,99138,1,0,0:0:0:0:
136,252,99466,6,0,P|96:256|64:244,1,75
216,192,99793,2,0,P|256:180|296:184,1,75
128,184,100121,2,0,B|68:188|68:188|32:160|56:88,2,150
184,256,100941,1,0,0:0:0:0:
236,176,101105,2,0,L|224:96,1,75
184,256,101433,6,0,P|240:256|272:240,1,75
112,196,101761,2,0,P|68:188|36:196,1,75
172,136,102089,2,0,B|188:100|192:52|192:52|224:48|248:20,2,150
252,184,102908,1,0,0:0:0:0:
172,136,103072,6,0,P|136:144|84:136,1,75
252,184,103400,2,0,L|432:188,2,150
184,264,104220,1,0,0:0:0:0:
144,164,104384,6,0,P|128:120|128:72,1,75
184,264,104711,2,0,P|208:228|220:184,1,75
308,240,105039,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,92,105203,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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136,132,107006,1,0,0:0:0:0:
136,132,107662,2,0,P|136:160|124:200,1,56.2500021457673
60,120,107989,2,0,P|68:84|156:60,1,134.999995880127
136,132,108645,2,0,P|184:152|256:116,1,134.999995880127
352,92,109301,2,0,B|408:96|408:96|432:128|408:188,1,134.999995880127
328,232,109793,1,0,0:0:0:0:
232,288,109957,5,0,0:0:0:0:
200,284,110039,1,0,0:0:0:0:
168,280,110121,1,0,0:0:0:0:
136,276,110203,1,0,0:0:0:0:
104,272,110285,1,0,0:0:0:0:
72,264,110367,2,0,L|40:256,1,33.7499989700318
68,352,110530,2,0,L|112:348,1,33.7499989700318
224,320,111268,1,0,0:0:0:0:
264,184,113235,6,0,L|336:188,2,56.2500021457673,0|2|0,0:0|2:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,128,113727,2,0,P|132:112|44:128,2,112.500004291535
228,208,114547,2,0,P|244:240|244:280,1,56.2500021457673
288,104,114875,2,0,P|276:72|280:36,1,56.2500021457673
372,176,115203,2,0,L|448:184,2,56.2500021457673
168,172,115858,6,0,L|96:176,1,56.2500021457673
228,108,116186,2,0,L|304:112,1,56.2500021457673
264,208,116514,2,0,B|272:240|272:240|248:336,1,112.500004291535
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292,132,117498,5,0,0:0:0:0:
428,124,117662,1,0,0:0:0:0:
292,132,117826,5,0,0:0:0:0:
428,124,117989,1,0,0:0:0:0:
364,200,118153,6,0,P|376:232|376:272,1,56.2500021457673
296,260,118481,5,0,0:0:0:0:
168,272,118645,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,260,118809,2,0,P|304:224|304:188,1,56.2500021457673
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176,104,119793,2,0,L|244:112,2,56.2500021457673
56,164,120285,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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388,228,121104,1,4,2:0:0:0:

Nerova Riuz GX

1,413 posts

Joined April 2012

Nerova Riuz GX 2015-11-29T16:31:32+00:00

Side wrote:
K Irre's diff added. For real no more diffs now xD

irre's cs7 wut
~~don't do drugs pls~~

Shut Down wrote:
Add gd

uhh please
he said no more diffs lol

ErunamoJAZZ

osu! Alumni

2,693 posts

Joined August 2012

ErunamoJAZZ 2015-11-30T00:03:47+00:00

o/

[Beginner]

00:03:400 (1,3) - Creo que es mala idea estos sliders de 3, quisiera sugerir esto, que se siente más natural imo:
00:09:630 (2) - Un stack como este puede ser bastante contraproducente en un nivel facil, si te das cuenta, el circulo de aproximación del circulo se hace visible demasiado pronto ( http://puu.sh/lDgGg/6b08c75d9a.jpg ), lo cual hace que los jugadores nuevos se equivoquen ya que su habilidad de lectura es casi nula. No hagas el stack pls.
00:11:269 (4,5,6) - Personalmente, este tipo de patrones yo procuro evitarlos, un jugador que apenas empieza, facilmente se puede confundir y darle clic al (6) antes que al (5).
00:15:368 (2,3) - Esto puede llegar a ser dificil de leer, pienso que es mejor cambiar estos dos por un Slider, así el issue de polaridad se soluciona.
00:28:318 (3,4,1) - algo similar a lo de antes sucede acá, Se pueden llegar a confundir y darle al (1) en vez que el (4).
00:45:040 (4) - Pienso que podrías quitar esta y más bien alargar el slider, queda bien con el sonido que se oye, y con eso cambias un poco el ritmo para que no se sienta tan repetitivo.
00:55:859 (1,2) - lol, esto es demasiado troll si le dejas la flecha de repetición tan cerca del slider que sigue, eso definitivamente los va a confundir xD
Podrías rotarlo para que se haga un blanket: http://puu.sh/lDhEl/8851aae648.jpg (aunque quizás luego de eso, vayas a querer cambiar un poco lo que sigue después)
01:05:696 (3,4) - Yo haría estos dos un slider.
01:18:155 (3,1) - Algo similar a lo de antes, se pueden confundir y terminar dandole a (1) en vez del (4).
01:22:417 (1) - mm... no debería acabar en 01:27:335 - ?
01:31:597 (4) - mm.. yo lo rotaría para que quedara algo así: http://puu.sh/lDi1w/0dabe6093e.jpg
01:41:433 (1,3) - Podrías hacerlos simétricos.
01:45:367 (1,2,3,4) - No me gusta mucho la posición donde están los circulos, de verdad pienso que puede llegar a ser muy confuso. Me gustaría sugerir más bien algo así:
01:54:547 (1) - Yo eliminaría este slider, ritmicamente no aporta mucho.
01:55:858 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Tal y como está ahora, las posibilidades de que del (3) se clickee luego sobre el (5) y no el (4), son altas. Procura evitar eso.
01:58:481 (1,2) - Algo similar a lo de antes.

Del primer kiai, no me gustó mucho que solo usaras sliders, queda bastante aburrido así. Podrías poner de tanto en tanto un par de circulos en vez de un slider, para que no se haga taaaan monotono :3

[Normal]

00:13:073 (5) - Cambiale el sentido a la flecha, es mejor: http://puu.sh/lDj0j/28446e369e.jpg
01:00:941 (5,1) - lol, esto queda bastante dificil de leer. te sugeriría algo como esto:
01:03:073 - Deberías colocar un circulo acá, tal y como está ahora se siente poco intuitivo al jugarlo.
01:04:548 (2) - Para evitar la confusión por el cambio de polaridad, yo lo haría como un repeat slider.
01:23:237 - Agrega un circulo?, se siente raro sin un circulo acá
01:26:679 - Polarity issue!, pon un circulo acá pls u.u
01:49:301 (2,3,4,5,6) - imo, queda demasiado denso. Yo mas bien haría algo así (que de cierto modo da un sentir de espectación al circle):
01:54:547 (4) - Se siente bastante raro, creo que algo así queda más intuitivo:
01:57:170 (4) - Lo mismo acá.
01:59:465 (4) - ... No sé...pienso que queda demasiado denso tantos sliders, pero dejar ese espacio entre circulo y slider pienso que es cotraproducente también... orz
puedes hacer un slider mejor, pero trata de organizarlos para que no queden tan apeñuscados.

[Broseph's Advanced]

00:38:810 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Seriously?? these sliders felt really bad to play man u.u, also... mm.. idk, rhythm doen not feel intuitive either. I want to suggest this:

Interesting diff, im not sure about the normal-whistle, but ok xD

[Atsuro's Hyper]
feels fine.

[Another]

00:31:597 (5,6) - que tal un Ctrl+G acá?... creo que quedaría cool.
00:32:745 (1,2,3) - Creo que esto queda un poco engañoso al jugarlo.
00:34:056 (1,2,3,4) - Esto de verdad se siente overmapeado :/
00:53:564 (2,3) - mm... estos patrones de Circle+Slider stackeados... al menos yo no los logro jugar muy bien que digamos... pero no sé, para ese tipo de cosas debes de pedir bastantes testplays, ya que no todos los jugadores son iguales. Yo preferiría no stackearlos.

[Shiirn's Extra]

Hi Shiirn o/
idk, this map looks like a joke map D:
Inconsistent spacing dont have many sense for me in a lot of sections, I dont can play it now (broken tablet), but it will need more testplays before a rank... or... rank without this diff u.u
Flow will really improve, seriously xD

[Irre's Extra]

00:30:122 (4,1) - ugg this break the flow ;w;
00:39:794 (3,1) - ._.
00:55:040 (7) - mm... I wanna suggest this:
Suggestion
1) add a green line for 0.75x.

2) change circle for a slider.

*) Eample:
01:01:925 (1) - Another suggestion >:3
a
1) add repeat to this slider.

2) change the SV to 1.75 or some like.

*) Example
01:08:646 (2) - ;w; http://puu.sh/lDudk/77c6316765.jpg
01:09:794 - not a note here?
01:11:433 - missing note.
01:26:023 (1) - maybe? http://puu.sh/lDutd/94217932dd.jpg
01:45:367 (1) - missing finish?
CS6 is love <3

Side

1,127 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Side 2015-11-30T04:05:39+00:00

ErunamoJAZZ wrote:
o/

[Beginner]
00:03:400 (1,3) - Creo que es mala idea estos sliders de 3, quisiera sugerir esto, que se siente más natural imo:
00:09:630 (2) - Un stack como este puede ser bastante contraproducente en un nivel facil, si te das cuenta, el circulo de aproximación del circulo se hace visible demasiado pronto ( http://puu.sh/lDgGg/6b08c75d9a.jpg ), lo cual hace que los jugadores nuevos se equivoquen ya que su habilidad de lectura es casi nula. No hagas el stack pls.
00:11:269 (4,5,6) - Personalmente, este tipo de patrones yo procuro evitarlos, un jugador que apenas empieza, facilmente se puede confundir y darle clic al (6) antes que al (5).
00:15:368 (2,3) - Esto puede llegar a ser dificil de leer, pienso que es mejor cambiar estos dos por un Slider, así el issue de polaridad se soluciona.
00:28:318 (3,4,1) - algo similar a lo de antes sucede acá, Se pueden llegar a confundir y darle al (1) en vez que el (4).
00:45:040 (4) - Pienso que podrías quitar esta y más bien alargar el slider, queda bien con el sonido que se oye, y con eso cambias un poco el ritmo para que no se sienta tan repetitivo.
00:55:859 (1,2) - lol, esto es demasiado troll si le dejas la flecha de repetición tan cerca del slider que sigue, eso definitivamente los va a confundir xD
Podrías rotarlo para que se haga un blanket: http://puu.sh/lDhEl/8851aae648.jpg (aunque quizás luego de eso, vayas a querer cambiar un poco lo que sigue después)
01:05:696 (3,4) - Yo haría estos dos un slider.
01:18:155 (3,1) - Algo similar a lo de antes, se pueden confundir y terminar dandole a (1) en vez del (4).
01:22:417 (1) - mm... no debería acabar en 01:27:335 - ?
01:31:597 (4) - mm.. yo lo rotaría para que quedara algo así: http://puu.sh/lDi1w/0dabe6093e.jpg
01:41:433 (1,3) - Podrías hacerlos simétricos.
01:45:367 (1,2,3,4) - No me gusta mucho la posición donde están los circulos, de verdad pienso que puede llegar a ser muy confuso. Me gustaría sugerir más bien algo así:
01:54:547 (1) - Yo eliminaría este slider, ritmicamente no aporta mucho.
01:55:858 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Tal y como está ahora, las posibilidades de que del (3) se clickee luego sobre el (5) y no el (4), son altas. Procura evitar eso.
01:58:481 (1,2) - Algo similar a lo de antes.
Del primer kiai, no me gustó mucho que solo usaras sliders, queda bastante aburrido así. Podrías poner de tanto en tanto un par de circulos en vez de un slider, para que no se haga taaaan monotono :3

Jeje era un easy viejo. Decidí medio remapearlo. Todos los comentarios fueron tomados en cuenta y han sido arreglados o llevaron a cambio algo similar.

[Normal]
00:13:073 (5) - Cambiale el sentido a la flecha, es mejor: http://puu.sh/lDj0j/28446e369e.jpg cambiado
01:00:941 (5,1) - lol, esto queda bastante dificil de leer. te sugeriría algo como esto:
Hice algo diferente :v
01:03:073 - Deberías colocar un circulo acá, tal y como está ahora se siente poco intuitivo al jugarlo. Hice otra cosa :v
01:04:548 (2) - Para evitar la confusión por el cambio de polaridad, yo lo haría como un repeat slider. Cambiado
01:23:237 - Agrega un circulo?, se siente raro sin un circulo acá ok :v
01:26:679 - Polarity issue!, pon un circulo acá pls u.u hice algo mas
01:49:301 (2,3,4,5,6) - imo, queda demasiado denso. Yo mas bien haría algo así (que de cierto modo da un sentir de espectación al circle):
01:54:547 (4) - Se siente bastante raro, creo que algo así queda más intuitivo:
01:57:170 (4) - Lo mismo acá.
01:59:465 (4) - ... No sé...pienso que queda demasiado denso tantos sliders, pero dejar ese espacio entre circulo y slider pienso que es cotraproducente también... orz
puedes hacer un slider mejor, pero trata de organizarlos para que no queden tan apeñuscados. cambiaron mucho los ultimos 10 segundos del mapa :v

[Another]
00:31:597 (5,6) - que tal un Ctrl+G acá?... creo que quedaría cool. xD tal vez pero tendría que cambiar muchos patrones tambien otros mas adelante para que sea consistente asi que por el momento lo dejo uncool :v
00:32:745 (1,2,3) - Creo que esto queda un poco engañoso al jugarlo. Bueno podría serlo pero me gusta la idea de tener esta parte como un "read section" que lo peor sería reintentar una vez nada mas y ya sabes que hacer :v
00:34:056 (1,2,3,4) - Esto de verdad se siente overmapeado :/ al contrario se siente undremapeado. Pero me gusta el ritmo que tiene :/
00:53:564 (2,3) - mm... estos patrones de Circle+Slider stackeados... al menos yo no los logro jugar muy bien que digamos... pero no sé, para ese tipo de cosas debes de pedir bastantes testplays, ya que no todos los jugadores son iguales. Yo prefiero no stackearlos. Creo que se vería mas feo si no estuviera stackeado y la verdad he tenido varios testplays y no he visto que aqui rompan combo por lo menos la mayoría no.

Thanks for the mod!

Zexous

713 posts

Joined July 2012

Zexous 2015-11-30T06:44:36+00:00

I wish I had known this set existed earlier so I could've asked to add my diff to the set
You should've told me Side :L

CircleChu

190 posts

Joined May 2012

CircleChu 2015-12-06T04:02:51+00:00

Sorry for delay, I am lazy ass I know. :c

Another

00:50:696 (2) - Fix that flow here
02:03:727 - I feel like you can end that last spinner here.

Shiirn`s Extra

00:33:564 (6) - Maybe add NC here?

00:57:335 (2,3,4) - This part here looks a bit wierd to me, but that`s not a big deal.
01:38:482 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - That masive can be changed to single stream, in my opinion.
02:00:448 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This one too?

Irre`s Extra

CS 6.5? Just wow! Also OD is a bit too high, but i guess you know better, what is fine or not

I can`t really find anything else. Mapset looks really very quality done. Good luck with ranking

Side

1,127 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Side 2015-12-12T03:52:30+00:00

Don't feel any of the suggestions provided to Broseph's diff really require any changes.

Regarding shiirn's diffs, his reply was, "Nothing appears to really need to be done, I prefer them this way. Thanks for your input." Also a few other things I'd regret posting here xP

So just waiting for atsuro and irre :/

Atsuro

1,290 posts

Joined January 2013

Atsuro 2015-12-12T04:53:51+00:00

@Kathex No change, all those small things are ok as i intended

@George I don't see how that's too curved, it flows and looks good

@Tarrasky Didn't change new combo since that's where the pattern and flow change. Also intensity.
The second NC i didn't add since the slider doesn't change velocity, the other one has NC for that. (I'd remove it if it wasn't for the SV change :v)
The last suggestion, i don't see the bad flow here really, and your suggestion just makes it more complicated. Also making a larger stream would increase SD and i really don't want to do that :p

Thanks all

Shiranai

2,186 posts

Joined August 2012

Shiranai 2015-12-12T07:42:49+00:00

Hello
Some small sugestion,

[Beginner]

01:01:105 (1) - Better start on red tick here 01:00:941 - so it'll more reasonable to be clicked?
01:03:728 (1) - Following the melody, imo the rhythm better like this http://puu.sh/lSsZ0/204f484f25.jpg ?
01:47:662 (3,1) - Maybe rearrange and blanket with previous (2) will make it nicer?

[Normal]

00:08:646 (2,3) - Spacing error I guess
00:27:007 (1,2) - Maybe try rotating both 10 degree and move to x:428 y:228 to improve the flow a bit? something like http://puu.sh/lStsP/e01bbc9a5d.jpg
00:32:253 (1,2,3) - Spacing error again

[Advanced]

00:18:482 (3,4) - Tbh I don't really know what are try to follow there, kinda random. Maybe the rhythm better to be like this http://puu.sh/lStE9/482d989940.jpg following the drum sound
01:04:876 (2,3) - Imo the slider (2) is end on nothing, maybe try to extend the slider to here 01:05:859 - and delete circle (3) will sound better?
01:20:777 (1,2,3) - Weird to play especially the movement from (2) to (3), maybe a bit rearrange them like http://puu.sh/lStX2/8c69cafaa3.jpg will improve the overall flow
01:38:482 (4,5,6) - I'm not sure that intentional, pretty confusing imo
01:46:185 (4) - Imo better not stacked, maybe move to x:256 y:268 will improve the readability and flow there http://puu.sh/lSu5t/8aff2b55bc.jpg ?

[Hyper]

00:45:286 (11,1) - Isn't the spacing should be 0.7 too? so the whole stream more consistent
01:29:630 - On that one, the volume on green and red line should be at least same to prevent any error
00:54:876 (2) - Imo that kinda overdone, because I think by following the melody, that slider repeat should be stop on red tick here 00:55:040 - http://puu.sh/lSuw4/e314cb897f.jpg ?

[Another]

00:34:548 (5) - Imo maybe slowing down that slider will match better with the music, maybe using 0.7/0.6 sv?
00:47:335 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - Imo the stream path not really clear to be seen because of overlap with 00:46:925 (5,1) - kinda bad with the readability
00:52:581 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - Kinda same as above
00:55:122 (4,1) - Imo that kinda overdone, literally the stream landed on nothing. Maybe the rhythm better like http://puu.sh/lSv5m/ac80b29665.jpg ?

[Shiirn's]

00:03:564 (2) - Imo better to be nc to indicate sv change and intrument transition
00:57:417 (3,4) - Idk they flow odd, why not flip them like http://puu.sh/lSvnL/6be0a06680.jpg ?

[Irre's]

01:26:023 (1) - Imo that very slow slider landed on nothing, maybe it's better rise the sv a bit more and make it end on strong beat red tick here 01:26:843 - ?
Several sliders is not snapped properly, check aimod

[]
Good luck

Side

1,127 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Side 2015-12-12T19:12:56+00:00

Mako Sakata

Mako Sakata wrote:
Hello
Some small sugestion,

[Beginner]
01:01:105 (1) - Better start on red tick here 01:00:941 - so it'll more reasonable to be clicked? I thought 1/2 would be pretty hard to read for an easy but I can do that. If anything I'd change it back if I see it's an issue.
01:03:728 (1) - Following the melody, imo the rhythm better like this http://puu.sh/lSsZ0/204f484f25.jpg ? Kinda similar to the above it'd be 3/2 which is pretty hard to read. Also for that I'd also have to change 01:02:417 (2) - to start in the red tick before to follow the melody. I still don't mind changing it but idk how well this might read. I decided to somewhat rework this section to follow the melody a bit better and applied your suggestion as well. I'll change it back to standard if it looks like it will be too hard for this difficulty.
01:47:662 (3,1) - Maybe rearrange and blanket with previous (2) will make it nicer? Made it look nicer
[Normal]
00:08:646 (2,3) - Spacing error I guess Changed (3) to slider.
00:27:007 (1,2) - Maybe try rotating both 10 degree and move to x:428 y:228 to improve the flow a bit? something like http://puu.sh/lStsP/e01bbc9a5d.jpg Rotated by 15 and reshaped a bit. Also moved a few other notes around afterward to keep spacing consistent.
00:32:253 (1,2,3) - Spacing error again Fixed
[Advanced]

I'll wait and ask broseph if I see him this week before I take over. He's still been in absence but I've seen him on a few times I'll ask if he wants to check it before I do as instructed.

[Another]
00:34:548 (5) - Imo maybe slowing down that slider will match better with the music, maybe using 0.7/0.6 sv? Interesting idea. I'll try .75x for now though I don't really want it to be that slow.
00:47:335 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - Imo the stream path not really clear to be seen because of overlap with 00:46:925 (5,1) - kinda bad with the readability Moved the stream.
00:52:581 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - Kinda same as above Cleaned up this stream section. Made it a bit more consistent in regards to stream spacing (added some ds increases/decreases to compliment the song) and also cleaned up the readability concerns (I hope)
00:55:122 (4,1) - Imo that kinda overdone, literally the stream landed on nothing. Maybe the rhythm better like http://puu.sh/lSv5m/ac80b29665.jpg ?
Followed that rhythm and changed spacing. Also added NC on 4 for readability.

[Shiirn's]

Sent him the mod. Will wait for him to reply.

Good luck

Thanks for the mod!

BrosephStalin

126 posts

Joined June 2013

BrosephStalin 2015-12-13T04:14:57+00:00

Pretty much applied mod + improved readability and spacing in some areas.

The meme team

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[Editor]
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BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 16
TimelineZoom: 2.4

[Metadata]
Title:Kreuz
TitleUnicode:Kreuz
Artist:sky_delta
ArtistUnicode:sky_delta
Creator:Side
Version:Broseph's Advanced
Source:BMS
Tags:Project XideChain IDM Frenz inukoro 2014 G2R20104 Atsuro BrosephStalin Shiirn Irreversible
BeatmapID:784093
BeatmapSetID:347551

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:6
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.1
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
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//Break Periods
2,66386,75532
2,82288,85109
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Side

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Topic Starter

Side 2015-12-13T16:19:35+00:00

Regarding shiirn's check quoting from IRC chat (in quotations = shiirn not in quotations = me)

[Shiirn's]

00:03:564 (2) - Imo better to be nc to indicate sv change and intrument transition - "I don't think that NC is necessary but that's up to you" Eh, added NC cuz why not :v
00:57:417 (3,4) - Idk they flow odd, why not flip them like http://puu.sh/lSvnL/6be0a06680.jpg ? "I don't see what's wrong with the flow it's a 3/4 slider that goes back to the start. Makes sense to me." Also looked okay as it was since the suggested change would cause an awkward snap to 4 since it's a 3/4 slider and would be pointing away from it and look more like 1/2 imo.

Will update the diffs when BSS stops being a jerk x_x

Atsuro

1,290 posts

Joined January 2013

Atsuro 2015-12-16T11:19:05+00:00

@Mako Sakata: Changed everything except the repeat slider, i really don't see the problem and the song supports it.

http://puu.sh/lXzbZ/be862ba649.txt

mraihani

208 posts

Joined November 2014

mraihani 2015-12-21T06:33:23+00:00

[general]
move preview time to 01:29:138
[Broseph's Advanced]
this gd does not have the video file.
video: vid.avi
offset: - 705
[Shiirn's Extra]
01:12:089 (6) remove finish.

no kds

Nerova Riuz GX

1,413 posts

Joined April 2012

Nerova Riuz GX 2015-12-21T13:46:58+00:00

let's put some personal opinions in here.

Irre's diff doesn't deserve that ar because of the note density on timeline, that circle size, and obvious NC spam.

maybe that NC spam is just for surviving from the map cuz HP7, but those follow points won't show up.
it makes the map really hard to read.
idk how did that ar 9.4 come, but that's too fast for this diff, especially there are many 1/1 gaps.
approach rate doesn't have to belong to the star rating.

ok, i just finished with this thing
gl

Irreversible

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Irreversible 2015-12-21T23:02:28+00:00

will post soon

Side

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Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Side 2015-12-22T01:51:08+00:00

I prefer the preview point where it is currently.

Added the video on broseph's diff.

Also regarding the finish on shiirn's diff it goes perfectly with the music there.

Ongaku

607 posts

Joined January 2014

Ongaku 2016-01-23T05:20:45+00:00

lemme speed map another extra for you. Promise it'll be within an hour :^))))

kappa

Irreversible

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Irreversible 2016-02-20T23:40:33+00:00

http://puu.sh/nfpCG/492d917c31.osu thanks!

Side

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Topic Starter

Side 2016-02-26T07:19:10+00:00

Will update soon(tm) when I get my open slot back. Meanwhile I cleaned up a few things in another and redid the shitsounds (still bad but now less so )

Shiranai

2,186 posts

Joined August 2012

Shiranai 2016-04-03T07:00:09+00:00

Hello recheck as asked
Sugestion,

Normal

00:04:384 (2,1) - and 00:54:220 (3,4,5) - Spacing not consistent, would be great if readjust a bit
00:54:876 (5,6) - How about try this rhythm instead http://puu.sh/o4chW/38ffd1d503.jpg ? Due to music I think it can provide a better stopping momentum on 00:54:876 (5,6) -
02:00:285 (2) - Imo better delete that to reduce the 1/2 rhythm density on 01:58:481 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) -

Broseph

How about use ar 7/7.5 ? it's like the ar diffrence with normal is rather to high imo
00:18:482 (3,4,1) - How about use regular ds instead? I'm not sure why you compresed the spacing on that one, yet start from this part 00:13:892 - you mostly stick to ds
01:21:761 (5) - Imo better reduce the reverse and try to put circle here 01:22:089 - so at least that downbeat is clickable
01:44:056 (3,4) - Stacked it better
01:50:612 - Imo better clickable, so maybe you can try this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4853337 ?

Atsuro

00:54:876 (2) - So far they are a bit overmapped, you can try to reduce the reverse and make it end on here instead 00:55:040 - to match the electronic sound better
01:29:630 - Make the volume on red and green line same http://puu.sh/o4ebc/29e437e9a5.png
01:45:367 - Try to use more consistent sample on those line, either S or S:C4 http://puu.sh/o4efs/ff85924465.png

Another

00:52:909 (1,2,3,4,1) - Can't you make the stream shape smoother? a circular maybe https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4853372 ?
00:54:876 (1,2,3) - Imo rather than compress the spacing I think try to spaced it more would be great https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4853383 you can try to use 1.2 or 1.3 ds there?

Shiirn

01:05:859 (7,8,9,1) - Umm thats rather to harsh imo for a part that not so intense, further more the next part on 01:06:187 - is even calmer. So a bit tone down that part might be good idea
02:01:104 - Try to raise the volume there, for a spinner the gradually fade out volume on that one might be good, but in this case they are clickable object so better to raise more the volume for a better feed back. Especially these 02:03:399 (1,2) - they are kinda inaudible

Irre

01:29:630 - Make the volume on red and green line same http://puu.sh/o4eI6/26a651adbb.png
01:45:367 - Same as above http://puu.sh/o4eKG/6cb7191176.png

Atsuro

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Atsuro 2016-04-03T18:53:15+00:00

Mako Sakata wrote:
00:54:876 (2) - So far they are a bit overmapped, you can try to reduce the reverse and make it end on here instead 00:55:040 - to match the electronic sound better Made it end on blue tick, that's where the last sound is
01:29:630 - Make the volume on red and green line same http://puu.sh/o4ebc/29e437e9a5.png ye
01:45:367 - Try to use more consistent sample on those line, either S or S:C4 http://puu.sh/o4efs/ff85924465.png ye

Ty

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Side

1,127 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Side 2016-04-03T22:54:39+00:00

Mako Sakata wrote:
Normal
00:04:384 (2,1) - and 00:54:220 (3,4,5) - Spacing not consistent, would be great if readjust a bit Adjusted spacing for the second. It's harder to do it for the first because of the symmetry between 00:03:400 (1,2) - and 00:06:023 (1,2) - Also it's a considerably long pause the extra .1x spacing wouldn't be noticed in gameplay.
00:54:876 (5,6) - How about try this rhythm instead http://puu.sh/o4chW/38ffd1d503.jpg ? Due to music I think it can provide a better stopping momentum on 00:54:876 (5,6) - Nice idea. Changed
02:00:285 (2) - Imo better delete that to reduce the 1/2 rhythm density on 01:58:481 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - Changed

Another
00:52:909 (1,2,3,4,1) - Can't you make the stream shape smoother? a circular maybe https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4853372 ? Did something similar
00:54:876 (1,2,3) - Imo rather than compress the spacing I think try to spaced it more would be great https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4853383 you can try to use 1.2 or 1.3 ds there? I can see why you suggest this but personally I prefer this compressing because this kiai is kind of mapped in a way that the distance spacing increases and decreases based on the pitch like if the four notes are rising in pitch it increases in ds and if it goes down it decreases etc. So in this case (1,2,3) is decreasing in pitch compared to 00:54:548 (1,2,3,4,1) -

Thanks again mako!

Also applied irre's green line changes

BrosephStalin

126 posts

Joined June 2013

BrosephStalin 2016-04-05T20:28:26+00:00

Mako Sakata wrote:
Hello recheck as asked

Broseph
How about use ar 7/7.5 ? it's like the ar diffrence with normal is rather to high imo
00:18:482 (3,4,1) - How about use regular ds instead? I'm not sure why you compresed the spacing on that one, yet start from this part 00:13:892 - you mostly stick to ds
01:21:761 (5) - Imo better reduce the reverse and try to put circle here 01:22:089 - so at least that downbeat is clickable
01:44:056 (3,4) - Stacked it better
01:50:612 - Imo better clickable, so maybe you can try this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4853337 ?

Applied everything! Looking back at this diff is like looking back in time, there are so many things I would've done differently (but I'm too lazy to remap so let's just stick with this).

updateroni

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Side

1,127 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Side 2016-04-05T21:02:37+00:00

Diffs updated

...

Removed Shiirn's Diff upon his request

Really hate to have to do this but I truly appreciate having the opportunity to host the rare and coveted "Shiirn GD" and I will do my best to keep pushing this forward!

Link to his diff here (also linked in creator comments)

C00L

1,078 posts

Joined September 2014

C00L 2016-04-15T09:02:48+00:00

heeeey

from le queueeu

[General]
the last diff with hr is a killer lol

[Timing]
i would use ~782

[Ai-Mod]
Seems fine, there is an error in the ai mod im guessing since its saying that you need a normal/easy diff but you do have one lol

[Irre's Extra]

the CS holy shit
00:07:991 (1,2,3) - maybe except of triple stacking these you could do something like this imo it kinda plays better since it builds up to that sort of sound you emphasise 4 with and also if you want you could move 4 further away as well to emphasise it even more, but a triple stack just doesnt look good in my eyes yeno :/
01:11:433 - there is a sound here that you emphasised with this 01:11:105 (3) - but you miss it out on the next red tick, why is that?
01:53:235 (1,2,3,4) - you could keep this pattern the same rather than using the squares 01:53:891 (5,6,7,8) - since you keep the pattern consistnet here 01:55:858 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - and here 01:58:481 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - so idk up to you man, imo it would just look a bit better if all of the patterns were similar

[Another]

01:16:843 (1) - see to be honest the diff is realy good i like it, but i would suggest using drum hitsounds it sounds a bit better imo
01:36:515 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - sounds on all of these are different and they have the same spacing/emphasis why is that?
kek

[Atsuro's Hyper]

00:45:286 (11,1) - i would try and keep the DS the same across the whole stream no matter if sliders come into play, like it looks a bit wrong in my eyes when a slider is a bit off in DS at the end of the stream it looks misplaced
00:53:155 (7,1) - same here idk if this is intentional so i will just stop mentioning it, maybe its your style
01:00:941 (1,2) - if you wanted you could give this a nice cheeky overlap if you wanted to, i know that 6 got in the way so you could do something like this ( i decreased the AR to 3)
01:24:548 (1) - you could NC this to give the vocal emphasis on the 2 sound on the slider, so that it gives it a combo number 2, i tried experimenting with the 3rd slider but i cant get it to give the combo number 3 :/ you could shorten slider 2 and put another note there for the 3rd sldier
01:58:973 (3,1) - a bit of a overlap
kek

well ill stop there cause below that im garbage

Good luck!

Last edited by C00L 2016-07-30T15:44:40+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Side

1,127 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Side 2016-04-15T17:24:29+00:00

C00L wrote:
heeeey

from le queueeu

[Timing]
i would use ~782 tbh feels about the same xd maybe its something in between but idk I'll stick to this for now see if I get more opinions on that and change it.

[Another]
01:16:843 (1) - see to be honest the diff is realy good i like it, but i would suggest using drum hitsounds it sounds a bit better imo thanks. Did something kinda similar to what broseph's hitsounds did here.
01:36:515 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - sounds on all of these are different and they have the same spacing/emphasis why is that? This is kind of a play on the map's video which is kind of about gears and what not so this section kinda goes back and forth near the center as a way to sort of symbolize that and then ofc this circular movement to represent the shape. idk it makes more sense in my head I guess lol
kek same
well ill stop there cause below that im garbage
Good luck!

Thanks for the mod!

Also made some self mod adjustments to the normal.

Rohit6

425 posts

Joined August 2013

Rohit6 2016-04-17T15:46:56+00:00

a

http://puu.sh/olHar/b115c5a7fd.txt

Nerova Riuz GX

1,413 posts

Joined April 2012

Nerova Riuz GX 2016-04-17T15:57:41+00:00

kk mod proof
but no kd bc that was already given

log

2016-04-13 00:31 Nerova Riuz GX: yumps
2016-04-13 00:31 Side: yumpz
2016-04-13 00:31 Nerova Riuz GX: go irc or death
2016-04-13 00:32 Side: gonna mod yumps?
2016-04-13 00:32 Side: or kreuz
2016-04-13 00:32 Nerova Riuz GX: kreuz
2016-04-13 00:34 Side: alright
2016-04-13 00:34 Nerova Riuz GX: welp
2016-04-13 00:34 Side: but in 30 mins if possible
2016-04-13 00:34 Nerova Riuz GX: what did mako said
2016-04-13 00:34 Nerova Riuz GX: all diff or specific diff
2016-04-13 00:35 Side: she didn't say specific diffs but I would guess the easier diffs are fine
2016-04-13 00:35 Side: at least good enough
2016-04-13 00:35 Nerova Riuz GX: actually i do have somethings about beginner
2016-04-13 00:36 Side: o okay
2016-04-13 00:36 Nerova Riuz GX: normal looks quite sidey so it should be fine
2016-04-13 00:36 Side: LOL its an older normal too
2016-04-13 00:36 Side: if I really had to I could remap those but meh
2016-04-13 00:37 Nerova Riuz GX: 01:00:450 (2,1) - im wondering if you want to change this 1/2 gap
2016-04-13 00:37 Side: to 1/1?
2016-04-13 00:38 Side: because thats how I had it but many mods suggested to move here to follow the music rhythm a bit better
2016-04-13 00:38 Nerova Riuz GX: welp
2016-04-13 00:38 Nerova Riuz GX: why don't you just extend (2) by 1/2 and make a reverse
2016-04-13 00:38 Nerova Riuz GX: so that can still make sense without any 1/2 gap
2016-04-13 00:40 Side: nowadays I would do something more like this http://puu.sh/ofI5n/7e2e7a79c2.jpg
2016-04-13 00:41 Side: but still a bit weird for an easy
2016-04-13 00:41 Nerova Riuz GX: that works too
2016-04-13 00:41 Side: so the best option really would be to do what I had before with 1/1
2016-04-13 00:41 Side: it might not follow the rhythm as well but its for the sake of playability
2016-04-13 00:42 Side: so it woul be easier to start 01:00:941 (1) - at 01:01:105 - I think
2016-04-13 00:42 Side: but idk its still weird
2016-04-13 00:43 Side: mostly I'm just hoping slider leniency would make this part easy to play regardless of what pattern is used
2016-04-13 00:45 Nerova Riuz GX: what if you make 00:57:827 (2) - reverse
2016-04-13 00:45 Nerova Riuz GX: and put sliders to deal with the rest piano sounds
2016-04-13 00:46 Nerova Riuz GX: one from 00:59:138 - to 00:59:630 -
2016-04-13 00:47 Side: idk then 00:55:859 (1) - would be out of place since it also ends on the white tick
2016-04-13 00:47 Nerova Riuz GX: w/e i might probably do this http://puu.sh/ofIsC/2d2ac44491.jpg
2016-04-13 00:47 Side: also nowadays I would just make these kinds of things a very long slider like from 00:58:482 - to 00:59:630 -
2016-04-13 00:48 Side: with a nice shape and stuff
2016-04-13 00:48 Side: more appropriate for the difficulty
2016-04-13 00:48 Side: hmm yeah maybe I'll just remap the easy
2016-04-13 00:49 Side: wouldn't take too long anyway
2016-04-13 00:49 Nerova Riuz GX: ahh cant find a great solution
2016-04-13 00:52 Side: weird song huh :v
2016-04-13 00:53 Nerova Riuz GX: alright go to another
2016-04-13 00:53 Nerova Riuz GX: cant figure out that slider problem
2016-04-13 00:54 Nerova Riuz GX: 01:19:138 (1,2,3,4) - are you sure a stream is better than a hold?
2016-04-13 00:54 Nerova Riuz GX: sounds like there are some more beats, not just pure 1/4
2016-04-13 00:55 Side: well the 1/4 would be more intuitive than the 1/8 or whatever that would be there
2016-04-13 00:56 Side: also coming off of two 1/4 jumps a 5s stream
2016-04-13 00:57 Side: would be easy*
2016-04-13 00:57 Nerova Riuz GX: 01:18:810 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - how about stream > 1/8 hold?
2016-04-13 00:59 Side: well I like the first two 1/4 jumps but I coul change the next part to 1/8 hold
2016-04-13 00:59 Side: I would change 01:19:138 (1,2) - to 1/8 and then leave the others as notes
2016-04-13 01:00 Nerova Riuz GX: kool
2016-04-13 01:00 Nerova Riuz GX: i like that
2016-04-13 01:01 Side: http://puu.sh/ofJj1/23ad68d2aa.jpg
2016-04-13 01:01 Nerova Riuz GX: make dat hold verticalllll
2016-04-13 01:03 Side: k
2016-04-13 01:04 Nerova Riuz GX: 01:28:974 (1) - i feel this NC is kinda useless because you don't have any actual change
2016-04-13 01:04 Side: true was just there cuz the time signature changes to 3/4
2016-04-13 01:05 Side: but yeh i can remove it
2016-04-13 01:06 Nerova Riuz GX: 00:23:728 (9) - NC for stacking? that's a huge change
2016-04-13 01:06 Side: o thought I had one already
2016-04-13 01:06 Side: weird
2016-04-13 01:07 Nerova Riuz GX: 00:34:056 (1,2,3,4) - personally I think you can make the doubles smaller so they will be easier to hit
2016-04-13 01:08 Nerova Riuz GX: cuz the doubles are kinda special at this place
2016-04-13 01:08 Side: so maybe stacked instead?
2016-04-13 01:09 Nerova Riuz GX: o yeah that works too
2016-04-13 01:10 Side: k
2016-04-13 01:10 Side: though I like the other way too :/
2016-04-13 01:11 Nerova Riuz GX: i'll do that if doubles are as common as the other stuff
2016-04-13 01:11 Side: yeh still changed
2016-04-13 01:12 Nerova Riuz GX: 00:54:876 (1,2,3) - [http://puu.sh/ofK27/8bb7cf205a.jpg make dem short and straight?]
2016-04-13 01:13 Side: ;-; but that next level blanketwith 1,2,3 http://puu.sh/ofK4W/3d0527fa7f.jpg
2016-04-13 01:14 Nerova Riuz GX: lmao
2016-04-13 01:14 Nerova Riuz GX: extreme blanket
2016-04-13 01:14 Nerova Riuz GX: k
2016-04-13 01:14 Side: also don't really like the straight line as much :v
2016-04-13 01:15 Nerova Riuz GX: 00:58:073 - nothinggggggggggg
2016-04-13 01:15 Nerova Riuz GX: do a kick slider or
2016-04-13 01:15 Nerova Riuz GX: triplet
2016-04-13 01:16 Side: k kick slider it is lol
2016-04-13 01:16 Nerova Riuz GX: o ok
2016-04-13 01:16 Side: SUPER BLANKET http://puu.sh/ofKh7/a6169b774b.jpg
2016-04-13 01:17 Nerova Riuz GX: lmao
2016-04-13 01:17 Nerova Riuz GX: alright there's something about jumps
2016-04-13 01:17 Nerova Riuz GX: 01:00:614 (5,6,7) -
2016-04-13 01:17 Nerova Riuz GX: though there's a slight change on spacing
2016-04-13 01:17 Nerova Riuz GX: I'll still suggest you to make a spike here
2016-04-13 01:18 Nerova Riuz GX: (7) is quite strong with a huge piano sound
2016-04-13 01:19 Side: how about [http://puu.sh/ofKpo/376bcde788.jpg this]
2016-04-13 01:19 Nerova Riuz GX: you're trying to make stacks xdddd
2016-04-13 01:19 Side: lazy lol
2016-04-13 01:21 Nerova Riuz GX: ya that works
2016-04-13 01:21 Side: or what if instead I stack 01:00:941 (7) - over 00:58:974 (2) -
2016-04-13 01:23 Nerova Riuz GX: umm
2016-04-13 01:23 Nerova Riuz GX: it's cleaner
2016-04-13 01:23 Nerova Riuz GX: ok
2016-04-13 01:23 Side: cool
2016-04-13 01:23 Nerova Riuz GX: and no overlap
2016-04-13 01:23 Nerova Riuz GX: kool
2016-04-13 01:24 Side: yeeeee
2016-04-13 01:25 Nerova Riuz GX: "old school side work"
2016-04-13 01:25 Nerova Riuz GX: ok i guess nothing more
2016-04-13 01:25 Side: all school is good school :^)
2016-04-13 01:25 Nerova Riuz GX: I can see most of them are intentionally placed
2016-04-13 01:25 Nerova Riuz GX: xd
2016-04-13 01:26 Side: lol yep
2016-04-13 01:26 Nerova Riuz GX: spam pentagon okok
2016-04-13 01:28 Side: that was the theme xd well more like star
2016-04-13 01:29 Side: gds are fine right?
2016-04-13 01:29 Nerova Riuz GX: almost nothing on atsuro
2016-04-13 01:30 Nerova Riuz GX: and i feel some gimmicks on irre's are strange but i believe somehow i can trust him
2016-04-13 01:30 Side: cs6.5 xd
2016-04-13 01:30 Nerova Riuz GX: and about broseph...
2016-04-13 01:31 Nerova Riuz GX: i can only say that the diff is pretty edgy on readability
2016-04-13 01:32 Side: yeh a bit harder to read but I don't think it would be too much issues or I hope not lol
2016-04-13 01:32 Nerova Riuz GX: 00:44:384 (1,1) - the only thing I want to point out on irre's diff
2016-04-13 01:34 Side: huh this part used to be a spinner
2016-04-13 01:34 Side: hmm well if you wanna mod his diff too he's online maybe ask if he wants to irc too
2016-04-13 01:34 Nerova Riuz GX: quite strange
2016-04-13 01:34 Nerova Riuz GX: kkk
2016-04-13 01:35 Side: then just savelog mine or both and post for dat sick kds
2016-04-13 01:35 Nerova Riuz GX: but
2016-04-13 01:35 Nerova Riuz GX: u cant give me kd
2016-04-13 01:35 Nerova Riuz GX: because you've already given that
2016-04-13 01:35 Nerova Riuz GX: on the same set
2016-04-13 01:35 Side: I on't think I kd'd your other post
2016-04-13 01:35 Side: or did I/
2016-04-13 01:35 Side: ?
2016-04-13 01:36 Nerova Riuz GX: yea u did
2016-04-13 01:36 Nerova Riuz GX: p/4752312
2016-04-13 01:36 Side: oh yeah I did
2016-04-13 01:36 Side: lol
2016-04-13 01:37 Side: but still post for proof and stuff u know
2016-04-13 01:37 Side: xd
2016-04-13 01:37 Nerova Riuz GX: ikik
2016-04-13 01:37 Side:

Side

1,127 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Side 2016-04-17T16:04:30+00:00

applied some changes from both. Thanks! :v

Atsuro

1,290 posts

Joined January 2013

Atsuro 2016-04-17T17:45:16+00:00

C00L wrote:
heeeey heeeeeeey
[Atsuro's Hyper]
00:45:286 (11,1) - i would try and keep the DS the same across the whole stream no matter if sliders come into play, like it looks a bit wrong in my eyes when a slider is a bit off in DS at the end of the stream it looks misplaced did something
00:53:155 (7,1) - same here idk if this is intentional so i will just stop mentioning it, maybe its your style Nah, i'm just lazy
01:00:941 (1,2) - if you wanted you could give this a nice cheeky overlap if you wanted to, i know that 6 got in the way so you could do something like this ( i decreased the AR to 3) I like how it looks currently
01:24:548 (1) - you could NC this to give the vocal emphasis on the 2 sound on the slider, so that it gives it a combo number 2, i tried experimenting with the 3rd slider but i cant get it to give the combo number 3 :/ you could shorten slider 2 and put another note there for the 3rd sldier Changed some weird nc there, what was i thinking
01:58:973 (3,1) - a bit of a overlap That's not visible during gameplay
kek kektus
well ill stop there cause below that im garbage
Good luck!

Thank!

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Side

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Side 2016-04-21T14:59:54+00:00

Secretpepe

08:51 Secretpipe: you said somehtin like
08:51 Secretpipe: "I dont know if you ever started moddin' but im not focusin' it so yea"
08:51 Secretpipe: something like that
08:51 Side: oooh no lol
08:51 Secretpipe: on
08:51 *Secretpipe is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/785113 sky_delta - Kreuz]
08:51 Secretpipe: right?
08:52 Secretpipe: man i remember xD
08:52 Side: no what I said was I'm not focusing on the reol map
08:52 Side: so instead I asked if you could mod kreuz xd
08:52 Secretpipe: might be a confusion then
08:52 Side: cuz mako asked me to get a few more mods on my diffs so she can bubble lol
08:54 Secretpipe: Ah
08:54 Secretpipe: on your diffs?
08:54 Side: probably just the highest one tbh 
08:54 Side: oh and maybe irre's too
08:54 Secretpipe: wanna irc now?
08:55 Side: sure
08:58 Secretpipe: link me it again
08:58 Secretpipe: so i can redl
08:58 *Side is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/785113 sky_delta - Kreuz]
08:59 Secretpipe: redlin'
08:59 Secretpipe: what diffs?
08:59 Secretpipe: beginner first?
08:59 Side: just another if you want maybe normal
08:59 Side: beginner is fine imo
08:59 Secretpipe: feels weird to mod but let's go
08:59 Secretpipe: okay normal
08:59 *Secretpipe is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/769744 sky_delta - Kreuz [Normal]]
08:59 Side: oo one sec tho
09:00 Secretpipe: hm?
09:00 Side: someone gonna testplay a map real quick d
09:00 Side: xd
09:00 Secretpipe: sure xD
09:10 Side: ok back sorry lol
09:11 Secretpipe: wb!
09:11 Secretpipe: let's see
09:12 Secretpipe: 2.23 for a normal
09:12 Secretpipe: im not okay  with it but okay
09:12 Side: yeah I thought it should be higher to be more even with the spread 
09:12 Secretpipe: 00:09:630 (3) - I would not recommand these kind of stacks
09:13 Secretpipe: These stacks can confuse the player who can do a miss here
09:13 Secretpipe: This is quite confusin' for Easy/Normal diff
09:13 Side: yeah I usually don't stack but the sound is kinda similar and it was like 1/1 pause so I thought it would be fine
09:14 Secretpipe: It's not fine imo but well
09:14 Secretpipe: Do you think the Normal diff is rankable
09:14 Secretpipe: Well there's the easy
09:14 Secretpipe: but that's a bit hard for a normal
09:14 Secretpipe: Like stuff like
09:14 Secretpipe: 00:11:925 (2,3) -
09:14 Side: I think its rankable I made sure not to add 1/8 full screen jumps :v
09:15 Side: oh what do I do with (2,3)
09:16 Secretpipe: Well with these objects
09:16 Secretpipe: I feel like it's hard
09:16 Secretpipe: but well
09:16 Secretpipe: this is 1/2
09:16 Secretpipe: I mean rankable for the spread
09:17 Side: but hard for normal 
09:17 Side: maybe a little yeah
09:17 Side: I tried to make the easy like an easy normal and the normal kinda like advanced in how it plays but sr underweighted so
09:21 Secretpipe: So you can't remap I guess
09:21 Secretpipe: I guess i'm gonna find small details
09:21 Secretpipe: that u can fix
09:21 Secretpipe: it's too late ahah
09:21 Secretpipe: The transition between 00:14:876 (3,4) - isn't smooth at all
09:22 Secretpipe: Your shape is kinda unneat though 00:14:876 (3) -
09:22 Secretpipe: 00:17:499 (3,4,5) - Feels weird here
09:22 Secretpipe: cuz you're aimin' to 5 instead of 4
09:23 Side: lol
09:24 Side: sorry was on the phone checking now
09:24 Secretpipe: 01:02:909 (4,1) - The transition isn't smooth at all
09:25 Secretpipe: Lot of weird transition
09:25 Side: for 0:14 how about htis http://puu.sh/oqwZs/2779783753.jpg
09:25 Secretpipe: the rhythm is nice followed
09:25 Secretpipe: for an advanced xd
09:25 Side: basically shorten (3) to the white tick
09:25 Side: and add a note on the red tick after
09:25 Secretpipe: 01:47:989 (1,2) - weird transition
09:25 Secretpipe: Well your screen is okay
09:26 Secretpipe: even if i'd not use weird sliders for a normal diff
09:26 Secretpipe: 01:49:301 (3,4) - WARNIN
09:26 Secretpipe: you should NOT use sliders like that
09:26 Secretpipe: Confusin' for the player
09:26 Side: k changing the shape of that slider
09:26 Secretpipe: misses/sliderbreak guaranteed
09:26 Secretpipe: start ur spinner here 01:50:940 -
09:26 Secretpipe: that's it
09:27 Side: sec sorry way behind xd
09:28 Secretpipe: these are the only things that i can suggest you on normal diff
09:35 Side: alright done
09:35 Side: fixed all
09:35 Side: I hope lol
09:35 Secretpipe: you fixed some?
09:35 Secretpipe: a
09:35 Secretpipe: okay
09:35 Secretpipe: let's move on another diff?
09:35 Side: alright
09:36 Secretpipe: i mean another diff in general
09:36 Secretpipe: not the another x
09:36 Secretpipe: xD
09:36 Side: xd well pretty much just another left 
09:36 Side: imo the gds are fine
09:37 *Secretpipe is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/785113 sky_delta - Kreuz [Another]]
09:37 Secretpipe: special intro
09:37 Secretpipe: i woud follow the piano but followin' the doubles can be nice
09:38 Secretpipe: You could maybe emphasis that 00:06:023 (1) -
09:38 Secretpipe: like
09:38 Side: yeah both work 
09:38 Secretpipe: you can keep the stack
09:38 Secretpipe: or
09:38 Secretpipe: you can move it further
09:38 Secretpipe: just a sugg
09:38 Side: think I'll keep the stack 
09:39 Secretpipe: okay nice
09:39 Secretpipe: 00:15:859 (7,8) - Where the fuck is the triple?
09:39 Secretpipe: 00:22:909 (4) - Too hard here
09:39 Secretpipe: Feels weird
09:39 Secretpipe: Like you follow some regular distance
09:39 Secretpipe: and then
09:39 Secretpipe: 4.3 jump
09:40 Secretpipe: At least nerf it
09:40 Secretpipe: To be consistent with your intro!
09:40 Secretpipe: 00:33:073 (2,3) - Confusin' here
09:40 Secretpipe: I'd call that an anti jump
09:40 Side: added triple
09:40 Secretpipe: Like it follow the SAMe distance as the previous notes
09:40 Secretpipe: but it's different in the timeline
09:40 Secretpipe: big mistake
09:40 Secretpipe: You should put them further
09:40 Secretpipe: 100% miss otherwise
09:41 Side: the 1/4 jump tho doesn't feel so hard at all :(
09:41 Secretpipe: Well I just asked you to be consistent
09:41 Secretpipe: feel free to leave it xD
09:41 Secretpipe: 00:40:122 (1) - Tiny sliders shouldn't be curved , it's better when they're not curved
09:42 Secretpipe: 00:44:548 (4,1) - See ? 3.3 is nice here
09:42 Secretpipe: o nice streams
09:42 Side: reduced the curves but I kinda still wanna keep em a bit curved just not so much now
09:42 Secretpipe: 00:56:515 (2) - how the hell ca you read that xd Just go for a triple or make the note closer
09:42 Secretpipe: 00:58:155 (3) - woo 5.3
09:43 Secretpipe: This is quite borin' to stack it again
09:43 Secretpipe: 01:06:187 (1) -
09:43 Secretpipe: Move it anywhere
09:44 Secretpipe: 01:40:449 (1,2) - Feels weird that you curve those sliders
09:44 Secretpipe: but you don't curve
09:44 Secretpipe: 01:41:105 (3,4) - not consistent once again
09:45 Secretpipe: Other than that
09:45 Secretpipe: Fun diff
09:46 Side: for 01:06:187 (1) -  how about move to x:58 y:115
09:46 Secretpipe: 58
09:46 Secretpipe: oops
09:46 Secretpipe: I mean
09:46 Secretpipe: ye nice
09:46 Side: also it was stacked cuz I did it here 01:04:548 (6,1) - for the same sound but I can unstack I don't ind
09:46 Side: ok I'll put it there
09:47 Secretpipe: Well the stack isn't bad here
09:47 Secretpipe: just borin' yknow
09:47 Side: yeh true
09:48 Side: alright well made some changes couldn't really change the 1/4 jumps but they play similar to if they were single notes just the sliders are really short.  Maybe I can increase SV for those small kick sliders?
09:48 Side: or would that make it weird to read the others
09:48 Secretpipe: If you want yeh
09:49 Secretpipe: As long as it's not a
09:49 Secretpipe: MASSIVE change
09:49 Secretpipe: xD
09:49 Side: damn was gonna use 4.0x :^)
09:52 Side: also if you don't mind modding irre's diff too? mako asked if I could get one more for irre's
09:52 Secretpipe: he's not online
09:53 Side: yeah hes not ;/
09:53 Side: maybe just a normal thread mod for that one then and you can savelog post this meanwhile I'll kds
09:54 Secretpipe: i'll bug him for an irc
09:54 Secretpipe: feel free to drop that talk on the forum
09:54 Secretpipe: so i can get a starru
09:55 Side: yeah I'll kds but you have to post or I can't star xd
09:55 Secretpipe: u can post the log
09:55 Secretpipe: and i say
09:55 Secretpipe: hi post for kd
09:55 Secretpipe: and boom kd gaven
09:55 Secretpipe: lol
09:55 Secretpipe: given*
09:55 Side: lol ok

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Secretpipe 2016-04-21T15:01:14+00:00

gl for this!

post 4 kd \o/

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