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Not so fast Kyshirowetteriterino 
Popped the bubble for an unused ".osb" file, call me back for a rebubble!
Popped the bubble for an unused ".osb" file, call me back for a rebubble!
Krfawy wrote:
Not so fast Kyshirowetteriterino
Popped the bubble for an unused ".osb" file, call me back for a rebubble!
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Are you a Beatmap Nominator or a QAT member? Anyways, now the problem is gone so here comes my BUBBLE #1 ! DON'T WASTE IT KYSHIRO!!!111!ONEA Mystery wrote:
Krfawy wrote:
Not so fast Kyshirowetteriterino
Popped the bubble for an unused ".osb" file, call me back for a rebubble!Unused .osb files are not unrankable or anything though
EDIT: My bubble is #2 because handsome ninja'd me : /
Topic Starter
you mean #2 you got ninja'd by handsome person huEKrfawy wrote:
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Are you a Beatmap Nominator or a QAT member? Anyways, now the problem is gone so here comes my BUBBLE #1 ! DON'T WASTE IT KYSHIRO!!!111!ONE
THIS IS THE LAST MAP IM RANKING DUE TO RETARDED RANKING SYSTEM THANK YOU VERY MUCH
No but I can readKrfawy wrote:
Are you a Beatmap Nominator or a QAT member? Anyways, now the problem is gone so here comes my BUBBLE #1 ! DON'T WASTE IT KYSHIRO!!!111!ONEA Mystery wrote:
Unused .osb files are not unrankable or anything though
EDIT: My bubble is #2 because handsome ninja'd me : /
GO KYSHIRO WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR
DON'T LET YOUR DREAMS BE DREAMS
This is good to go!
Boom!
Boom!
Topic Starter
PIPE IS LOVE PIPE IS LIFESecretpipe wrote:
This is good to go!
Boom!
yee
fast af
Congratulations Kyshiro!
Aw.. You made this within 4 days and got it modded then ranked ! o..m..g
Nice
Nice
Topic Starter
well to make it sound a bit better, it was finished when i uploaded itNekomi wrote:
Aw.. You made this within 4 days and got it modded then ranked ! o..m..g
Nice
Oh well. Then you're fast at getting mods then. Not like me ...
I have huge questions about the source of the mp3. This is basically your own mp3 which you created by compiling two different songs from Gautier Serre? One is Corpo-Mente, and then there's a second one which is Igorrr - Pavor Nocturnus [2015]. Source in soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/igorrr/pavor-nocturnus-2015
There was no other place where this song was released. Therefore, this is NOT "Igorrr - Pavor Nocturnus", so the beatmap title was incorrect. You just made your own custom mp3 using two songs from different artists for the sake of it being longer than 5 minutes?
This should be disqualified at least to change the song title. It's wrong.
Also your nice speedrank in 4 days results in unpolished map and wrong rhythm in some places.
Examples:
02:11:147 - there is no sound in the music
02:22:785 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - all the blue ticks here have no sound in the music, this is unneeded and overmapped
02:35:544 (3,4,5) - here you should add notes on the blue ticks and remove this note 02:36:147 (7) - since the rhythm of this part just doesn't follow the music
02:50:458 (5) - This note should be removed as well
These are just minor mistakes in my opinion. The biggest and really important is with your 1/8 and 1/16 sliders.
02:42:785 (2) - This slider should have only 3 notes (1 repeat arrow). The reasons are simple: there's not enough time to unpress and press the button again. It's 1/8 and it's really not that easy to hit. Most of players will get a lot of 100s on this slider and a part of them will even break the combo. This pattern will be a lot better with the last repeat removed.
02:46:233 (5) - This slider should end on 02:46:406 - because 1/4 rhythm starts here, but NOT here 02:46:492 -
02:54:509 (5) - This slider should start on 02:54:596 - (similar as above, just wrong rhythm)
02:57:613 (3) - According to the pattern you set earlier with using 1/8 and 1/16 (1/16 at sounds like this 02:51:751 (1,2) - and 1/8 at sounds like this 02:48:992 (3) - ) you should use here two 1/16 sliders instead of one 1/8. Not even saying that you missed same sounds at 02:57:958 (1,2) - and 02:59:337 (3,4,5) -
02:59:682 (5,1) - Missed 1/8 sound between these two sliders.
03:11:406 (1,2) - Here you can't decide whether to follow the vocals or the drums, that's why this part is played really awfully. You should choose between the two and follow the music better.
03:15:544 (1,2,3) - You were following 1/8 and 1/16 pretty strictly at the beginning but you totally forgot about them later. Here you miss a lot of rhythm again. Be consistent, either do not map 1/8 and 1/16, or map every pattern in the song like that. Don't map just half of it and forget about the other.
03:17:699 - Missed a sound here.
03:20:630 - Yeah here as well.
04:07:354 - But this note should be removed, it's 1/2.
04:07:958 (8,9,1,2) - These are 1/8 (1/16?)
04:12:096 (3,4,5) - This is 1/8
04:13:302 (6,7,1) - This is 1/8
04:42:268 (7,8,1) - This is 1/8
04:37:268 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - This is totally not just simple 1/4
That's not every single mistake you did, these are just the things I could notice on my first sight. This map has a lot of rhythm problems and should be MODDED before it gets ranked. This song has a VERY hard to map rhythm, A LOT OF important little patterns, so it's not a 1/2 TV size you should speedrank. THIS NEEDS MODDING. Unless you want to make a shitmap. If you aim at shitmapping, go ahead and speedrank stuff like this. Would be much appreciated.
So, to sum up:
This must be disqualified and modded to death.
1. Wrong title. This is not Igorrr - Pavor Nocturnus. https://osu.ppy.sh/s/57525 This is Pavor Nocturnus.
The song you mapped here is a custom mix made of Corpo-Mente - Arsalein and Igorrr - Pavor Nocturnus [2015].
This must be called something else. Some kind of compilation, remix, mix, anything but not just Pavor Nocturnus.
2. Major rhythm inconsistencies and basic mistakes. This map didn't even receive any fucking decent modding. Like, are you fucking serious?
Please get some modding, make a good map out of this and then rerank. Thank you.
I'll go find some QATs to approve my point.
There was no other place where this song was released. Therefore, this is NOT "Igorrr - Pavor Nocturnus", so the beatmap title was incorrect. You just made your own custom mp3 using two songs from different artists for the sake of it being longer than 5 minutes?
This should be disqualified at least to change the song title. It's wrong.
Also your nice speedrank in 4 days results in unpolished map and wrong rhythm in some places.
Examples:
02:11:147 - there is no sound in the music
02:22:785 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - all the blue ticks here have no sound in the music, this is unneeded and overmapped
02:35:544 (3,4,5) - here you should add notes on the blue ticks and remove this note 02:36:147 (7) - since the rhythm of this part just doesn't follow the music
02:50:458 (5) - This note should be removed as well
These are just minor mistakes in my opinion. The biggest and really important is with your 1/8 and 1/16 sliders.
02:42:785 (2) - This slider should have only 3 notes (1 repeat arrow). The reasons are simple: there's not enough time to unpress and press the button again. It's 1/8 and it's really not that easy to hit. Most of players will get a lot of 100s on this slider and a part of them will even break the combo. This pattern will be a lot better with the last repeat removed.
02:46:233 (5) - This slider should end on 02:46:406 - because 1/4 rhythm starts here, but NOT here 02:46:492 -
02:54:509 (5) - This slider should start on 02:54:596 - (similar as above, just wrong rhythm)
02:57:613 (3) - According to the pattern you set earlier with using 1/8 and 1/16 (1/16 at sounds like this 02:51:751 (1,2) - and 1/8 at sounds like this 02:48:992 (3) - ) you should use here two 1/16 sliders instead of one 1/8. Not even saying that you missed same sounds at 02:57:958 (1,2) - and 02:59:337 (3,4,5) -
02:59:682 (5,1) - Missed 1/8 sound between these two sliders.
03:11:406 (1,2) - Here you can't decide whether to follow the vocals or the drums, that's why this part is played really awfully. You should choose between the two and follow the music better.
03:15:544 (1,2,3) - You were following 1/8 and 1/16 pretty strictly at the beginning but you totally forgot about them later. Here you miss a lot of rhythm again. Be consistent, either do not map 1/8 and 1/16, or map every pattern in the song like that. Don't map just half of it and forget about the other.
03:17:699 - Missed a sound here.
03:20:630 - Yeah here as well.
04:07:354 - But this note should be removed, it's 1/2.
04:07:958 (8,9,1,2) - These are 1/8 (1/16?)
04:12:096 (3,4,5) - This is 1/8
04:13:302 (6,7,1) - This is 1/8
04:42:268 (7,8,1) - This is 1/8
04:37:268 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - This is totally not just simple 1/4
That's not every single mistake you did, these are just the things I could notice on my first sight. This map has a lot of rhythm problems and should be MODDED before it gets ranked. This song has a VERY hard to map rhythm, A LOT OF important little patterns, so it's not a 1/2 TV size you should speedrank. THIS NEEDS MODDING. Unless you want to make a shitmap. If you aim at shitmapping, go ahead and speedrank stuff like this. Would be much appreciated.
So, to sum up:
This must be disqualified and modded to death.
1. Wrong title. This is not Igorrr - Pavor Nocturnus. https://osu.ppy.sh/s/57525 This is Pavor Nocturnus.
The song you mapped here is a custom mix made of Corpo-Mente - Arsalein and Igorrr - Pavor Nocturnus [2015].
This must be called something else. Some kind of compilation, remix, mix, anything but not just Pavor Nocturnus.
2. Major rhythm inconsistencies and basic mistakes. This map didn't even receive any fucking decent modding. Like, are you fucking serious?
Please get some modding, make a good map out of this and then rerank. Thank you.
I'll go find some QATs to approve my point.
One thing I want to say: If you use 1/4 instead of 1/8 you are not doing anything wrong (technically), so those points are invalid to an extentgrumd wrote:
I have huge questions about the source of the mp3. This is basically your own mp3 which you created by compiling two different songs from Gautier Serre? One is Corpo-Mente, and then there's a second one which is Igorrr - Pavor Nocturnus [2015]. Source in soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/igorrr/pavor-nocturnus-2015
There was no other place where this song was released. Therefore, this is NOT "Igorrr - Pavor Nocturnus", so the beatmap title was incorrect. You just made your own custom mp3 using two songs from different artists for the sake of it being longer than 5 minutes?
This should be disqualified at least to change the song title. It's wrong.
Also your nice speedrank in 4 days results in unpolished map and wrong rhythm in some places.
Examples:
02:11:147 - there is no sound in the music
02:22:785 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - all the blue ticks here have no sound in the music, this is unneeded and overmapped
02:35:544 (3,4,5) - here you should add notes on the blue ticks and remove this note 02:36:147 (7) - since the rhythm of this part just doesn't follow the music
02:50:458 (5) - This note should be removed as well
These are just minor mistakes in my opinion. The biggest and really important is with your 1/8 and 1/16 sliders.
02:42:785 (2) - This slider should have only 3 notes (1 repeat arrow). The reasons are simple: there's not enough time to unpress and press the button again. It's 1/8 and it's really not that easy to hit. Most of players will get a lot of 100s on this slider and a part of them will even break the combo. This pattern will be a lot better with the last repeat removed.
02:46:233 (5) - This slider should end on 02:46:406 - because 1/4 rhythm starts here, but NOT here 02:46:492 -
02:54:509 (5) - This slider should start on 02:54:596 - (similar as above, just wrong rhythm)
02:57:613 (3) - According to the pattern you set earlier with using 1/8 and 1/16 (1/16 at sounds like this 02:51:751 (1,2) - and 1/8 at sounds like this 02:48:992 (3) - ) you should use here two 1/16 sliders instead of one 1/8. Not even saying that you missed same sounds at 02:57:958 (1,2) - and 02:59:337 (3,4,5) -
02:59:682 (5,1) - Missed 1/8 sound between these two sliders.
03:11:406 (1,2) - Here you can't decide whether to follow the vocals or the drums, that's why this part is played really awfully. You should choose between the two and follow the music better.
03:15:544 (1,2,3) - You were following 1/8 and 1/16 pretty strictly at the beginning but you totally forgot about them later. Here you miss a lot of rhythm again. Be consistent, either do not map 1/8 and 1/16, or map every pattern in the song like that. Don't map just half of it and forget about the other.
03:17:699 - Missed a sound here.
03:20:630 - Yeah here as well.
04:07:354 - But this note should be removed, it's 1/2.
04:07:958 (8,9,1,2) - These are 1/8 (1/16?)
04:12:096 (3,4,5) - This is 1/8
04:13:302 (6,7,1) - This is 1/8
04:42:268 (7,8,1) - This is 1/8
04:37:268 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - This is totally not just simple 1/4
That's not every single mistake you did, these are just the things I could notice on my first sight. This map has a lot of rhythm problems and should be MODDED before it gets ranked. This song has a VERY hard to map rhythm, A LOT OF important little patterns, so it's not a 1/2 TV size you should speedrank. THIS NEEDS MODDING. Unless you want to make a shitmap. If you aim at shitmapping, go ahead and speedrank stuff like this. Would be much appreciated.
So, to sum up:
This must be disqualified and modded to death.
1. Wrong title. This is not Igorrr - Pavor Nocturnus. https://osu.ppy.sh/s/57525 This is Pavor Nocturnus.
The song you mapped here is a custom mix made of Corpo-Mente - Arsalein and Igorrr - Pavor Nocturnus [2015].
This must be called something else. Some kind of compilation, remix, mix, anything but not just Pavor Nocturnus.
2. Major rhythm inconsistencies and basic mistakes. This map didn't even receive any fucking decent modding. Like, are you fucking serious?
Please get some modding, make a good map out of this and then rerank. Thank you.
I'll go find some QATs to approve my point.
Topic Starter
Okay so, the last time I checked it was totally fine to add songs together and keep the artist name the same (Monstrata's Miiro for example, and I asked 2 QATs about this)
As for the 1/8 rhythms, if it REALLY gets a DQ cause of this it's just utter bullshit, the song is far too distorted to hear whether it's 1/8 at most parts, even at 25%.
And please, to the notes that are ''''''''''overmapped''''''''''''' WHICH map doesn't have that nowadays, the whole map PLAYS INTUITIVELY and every one I asked(A LOT) said it was a really fun to play map, and those were not just some random unknowns who'se opinion, according to you, might be invalid.
From what i feel and see, this is an attempt to unrank the map cause the person is mad about the speedrank. Don't take this as offense, just the way I see it.
If there's going to be a QAT DQing this, please do talk to me IN GAME first before DQing, that's all I'm asking. Thank you
As for the 1/8 rhythms, if it REALLY gets a DQ cause of this it's just utter bullshit, the song is far too distorted to hear whether it's 1/8 at most parts, even at 25%.
and 04:37:268 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - THIS. is simply 1/4. listen at 25% and you can actually hear drums at 1/4. more of a mixture with 1/4 and 1/8 in which case it's fine to map to both(same thing with guitar rhythms.)Baraatje123 wrote:
Meta data, look to Bad Apple (Yoyoyuppe), or the new MIIRO
It should be fine as long as the other song's name is in tags
And please, to the notes that are ''''''''''overmapped''''''''''''' WHICH map doesn't have that nowadays, the whole map PLAYS INTUITIVELY and every one I asked(A LOT) said it was a really fun to play map, and those were not just some random unknowns who'se opinion, according to you, might be invalid.
From what i feel and see, this is an attempt to unrank the map cause the person is mad about the speedrank. Don't take this as offense, just the way I see it.
If there's going to be a QAT DQing this, please do talk to me IN GAME first before DQing, that's all I'm asking. Thank you
Meta data, look to Bad Apple (Yoyoyuppe), or the new MIIRO
It should be fine as long as the other song's name is in tags
It should be fine as long as the other song's name is in tags
I agree with grumd here to an extent, if we're going to change the title here are some ideas...
For the artist you can use something like Igorrr & Corpo-Mente, or something like that sort. (I guess Igorrr and Laure Le Prunenec works too...)
As for the song you can just either A: make a combination of the two titles, or B: put both titles in.
As for the map...
I actually really like it Don't think I hate it cause I actually think it's fun as hell (especially that deathstream at the hell good christ)
I just would suggest slightly darker combo colours; I like the contrast but I think it can maybe benefit from a darker colour? (especially because of the gloomy nature of pavor nocturnus)
Great map, I think you just got the short stick this time from the community.
For the artist you can use something like Igorrr & Corpo-Mente, or something like that sort. (I guess Igorrr and Laure Le Prunenec works too...)
As for the song you can just either A: make a combination of the two titles, or B: put both titles in.
As for the map...
I actually really like it
Don't think I hate it cause I actually think it's fun as hell (especially that deathstream at the hell good christ)I just would suggest slightly darker combo colours; I like the contrast but I think it can maybe benefit from a darker colour? (especially because of the gloomy nature of pavor nocturnus)
Great map, I think you just got the short stick this time from the community.
Topic Starter
If there's going to be a QAT DQing this, please do talk to me IN GAME first before DQing, that's all I'm asking. Thank you
If you want to use 1/4 instead of 1/8, do it consistently.A Mystery wrote:
One thing I want to say: If you use 1/4 instead of 1/8 you are not doing anything wrong (technically), so those points are invalid to an extent
Then change the title to "Igorrr - Pavor Nocturnus [2015]". Remastered 2015 version has a different official name.Baraatje123 wrote:
Meta data, look to Bad Apple (Yoyoyuppe), or the new MIIRO
It should be fine as long as the other song's name is in tags
https://soundcloud.com/igorrr/pavor-nocturnus-2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCakBQPKY_M
These are different
Topic Starter
honestly, adding [2015] to the title sounds dumb as fuck, but i guess that's a valid point if that actually does need to be changed. I still do not agree with the rest however
It doesn't have to be consistent imo, for some places it works out better to just use 1/4 streams instead of using 1/8 sliders all the timegrumd wrote:
If you want to use 1/4 instead of 1/8, do it consistently.A Mystery wrote:
One thing I want to say: If you use 1/4 instead of 1/8 you are not doing anything wrong (technically), so those points are invalid to an extent
Topic Starter
A Mystery wrote:
One thing I want to say: If you use 1/4 instead of 1/8 you are not doing anything wrong (technically), so those points are invalid to an extent
A Mystery wrote:
One thing I want to say: If you use 1/4 instead of 1/8 you are not doing anything wrong (technically), so those points are invalid to an extent
A Mystery wrote:
One thing I want to say: If you use 1/4 instead of 1/8 you are not doing anything wrong (technically), so those points are invalid to an extent
ALSO like I said it's FAR too distorted to make out which rhythm it is at most points. I DID pay attention to rhythm a LOT, hell there's even a 3/16 slider in it.A Mystery wrote:
One thing I want to say: If you use 1/4 instead of 1/8 you are not doing anything wrong (technically), so those points are invalid to an extent
Man, I was about to ask if I could do a Taiko Difficulty for this. darn
Also, keep this thread civilized. Before anyone thinks about to start a shitfest I am going to warn you before.
Also, keep this thread civilized. Before anyone thinks about to start a shitfest I am going to warn you before.
Stefan wrote:
Also, keep this thread civilized.
Secretpipe wrote:
Take it easy
Exactly, it is a re-recording. A remaster is basically re-doing the original mastering of the track without altering the original composition.grumd wrote:
Then change the title to "Igorrr - Pavor Nocturnus [2015]". Remastered 2015 version has a different official name.Baraatje123 wrote:
Meta data, look to Bad Apple (Yoyoyuppe), or the new MIIRO
It should be fine as long as the other song's name is in tags
https://soundcloud.com/igorrr/pavor-nocturnus-2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCakBQPKY_M
These are different
Pavor Nocturnus [2015] is altered in its original composition with different vocals, mixdown, effects and instruments.
So, it's not a remastering.
Not very fond of speedranks, but I didn't find anything out of place (even tho I don't map nor mod standard and thus this post is plain useless)
Would have loved a taiko diff for this one.
Would have loved a taiko diff for this one.
grumd
grumd wrote:
I have huge questions about the source of the mp3. This is basically your own mp3 which you created by compiling two different songs from Gautier Serre? One is Corpo-Mente, and then there's a second one which is Igorrr - Pavor Nocturnus [2015]. Source in soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/igorrr/pavor-nocturnus-2015
There was no other place where this song was released. Therefore, this is NOT "Igorrr - Pavor Nocturnus", so the beatmap title was incorrect. You just made your own custom mp3 using two songs from different artists for the sake of it being longer than 5 minutes?
This should be disqualified at least to change the song title. It's wrong. ✐ this actually is a valid point but the amount of stress you put on the word wrong already gives off that you will most likely continue in this tone
Also your nice speedrank in 4 days results in unpolished map and wrong rhythm in some places. ➥ .
Examples:
02:11:147 - there is no sound in the music ➥ but... uhhm.. there.... is?
02:22:785 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - all the blue ticks here have no sound in the music, this is unneeded and overmapped ➥ while it is not the most obvious rhythm choice... there are sounds??
02:35:544 (3,4,5) - here you should add notes on the blue ticks and remove this note 02:36:147 (7) - since the rhythm of this part just doesn't follow the music ➥ elaborate on this point... the thing quite obviously follows the guitar, it's essentially the same as 02:33:130 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - which does... the same so i don't get your point
02:50:458 (5) - This note should be removed as well ➥ uhm. why? there's a sound, a quite obvious one
These are just minor mistakes in my opinion. The biggest and really important is with your 1/8 and 1/16 sliders.
02:42:785 (2) - This slider should have only 3 notes (1 repeat arrow). The reasons are simple: there's not enough time to unpress and press the button again. It's 1/8 and it's really not that easy to hit. Most of players will get a lot of 100s on this slider and a part of them will even break the combo. This pattern will be a lot better with the last repeat removed. ➥ contrary to your point, which to some extend makes sense i had literally no problem playing this, the way it's spaced is pretty much straightforward
02:46:233 (5) - This slider should end on 02:46:406 - because 1/4 rhythm starts here, but NOT here 02:46:492 - ➥ i think this is done intentionally, because either adding a circle on the blue tick or leaving it empty would feel really weird when playing it, so instead he extended a slider. though extending repeats is questionable i kind of agree on your point that it could have been a tiny bit closer to what the song is
02:54:509 (5) - This slider should start on 02:54:596 - (similar as above, just wrong rhythm) ➥
02:57:613 (3) - According to the pattern you set earlier with using 1/8 and 1/16 (1/16 at sounds like this 02:51:751 (1,2) - and 1/8 at sounds like this 02:48:992 (3) - ) you should use here two 1/16 sliders instead of one 1/8. Not even saying that you missed same sounds at 02:57:958 (1,2) - ➥ actually spamming 1/2 sliders over the vocals is kind of understandable and straightforward? and 02:59:337 (3,4,5) - ➥ uhh i think this particular slider follows the same idea as 02:48:992 (3) - so i think it's been done on purpose to provide some variety in a chaotic song like this this kind of makes sense to me
02:59:682 (5,1) - Missed 1/8 sound between these two sliders. ➥ you didn't point them out just above right? uhh anyways i think the same argument with spamming 1/2 sliders over vocals can be applied to that
03:11:406 (1,2) - Here you can't decide whether to follow the vocals or the drums, that's why this part is played really awfully. You should choose between the two and follow the music better. ➥ uh the part from 03:05:199 - to 03:13:475 - is one of the most obvious buildups i have seen in a while. he used 1/1 sliders at first and increased SV on them until he ended up with sliders so long that splitting them into two makes sense according to the buildup. the way this all towers in a stream and a kiai flash makes this whole thing really obvious and i don't know if saying it's wrong is right
03:15:544 (1,2,3) - You were following 1/8 and 1/16 pretty strictly at the beginning but you totally forgot about them later. Here you miss a lot of rhythm again. Be consistent, either do not map 1/8 and 1/16, or map every pattern in the song like that. Don't map just half of it and forget about the other. ➥ uhm if you look at the part itself then it's obviously supposed to ignore more sounds because following everything would lead to even as dense rhythms here as in the kiai section, which might be the reason for not doing it here
03:17:699 - Missed a sound here. ➥ so?
03:20:630 - Yeah here as well. ➥ so?
04:07:354 - But this note should be removed, it's 1/2. ➥ are we both listening to the same song? this one is clearly not 1/2 and putting the weaker sound on the sliderend actually fits
04:07:958 (8,9,1,2) - These are 1/8 (1/16?) ➥ now you're hearing sounds that i don't hear, it's like a screeching sound, so mapping either way over them should be ok... which kyshiro does in order to be able to use more patterns for the same sound?
04:12:096 (3,4,5) - This is 1/8 ➥ so he's not allowed to follow the very strong 1/4 drums instead because that's what this would most likely feel like?
04:13:302 (6,7,1) - This is 1/8 ➥ yes, but 04:13:130 (4,5,6) - as well as 04:13:475 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - are constant 1/4 sounds which are quite loud, ignoring one of the circles for another 1/8 slider would pretty much play worse because you would have to stop for a more or less continuous string of sounds in order to hold down a key for the 1/8 slider
04:42:268 (7,8,1) - This is 1/8 ➥ literally the same logic applies to this one
04:37:268 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - This is totally not just simple 1/4 ➥ going with the logic of previous patterns it kind of makes sense to map this as simple 1/4 because a huge chunk of the streams in the kiai are simplifying the 1/8 to 1/4 circles
That's not every single mistake you did, these are just the things I could notice on my first sight. This map has a lot of rhythm problems and should be MODDED before it gets ranked. This song has a VERY hard to map rhythm, A LOT OF important little patterns, so it's not a 1/2 TV size you should speedrank. THIS NEEDS MODDING. Unless you want to make a shitmap. If you aim at shitmapping, go ahead and speedrank stuff like this. Would be much appreciated. ➥ so instead of modding it while considering the mappers intention and ideas behind it you go out of your way to say things are wrong because you think they are wrong?
So, to sum up:
This must be disqualified and modded to death.
1. Wrong title. This is not Igorrr - Pavor Nocturnus. https://osu.ppy.sh/s/57525 This is Pavor Nocturnus.
The song you mapped here is a custom mix made of Corpo-Mente - Arsalein and Igorrr - Pavor Nocturnus [2015].
This must be called something else. Some kind of compilation, remix, mix, anything but not just Pavor Nocturnus.
2. Major rhythm inconsistencies and basic mistakes. This map didn't even receive any fucking decent modding. Like, are you fucking serious? ➥ could you watch your language? It's not like it ended in the official ranked section after 4 days but in the qualified section
Please get some modding, make a good map out of this and then rerank. Thank you.
I'll go find some QATs to approve my point.
please explain your points better because as it stands now this is just a massive rant instead of a mod. The way you word things is sometimes insultive and sometimes lacks coherent reasoning behind it which makes it a lot less obvious as to why you actually disagree with the things presented by the mapper. Seeing how this difficulty looks I assume everything put in here is there for a reason, and the more I think about what possible reasons Kyshiro could use to prefer e.g. 1/4 circles over 1/8 sliders the more it actually makes sense to me.
If you don't like them doing that, please explain your viewpoint better because right now your only argument for most of the things you present as issues here are "i don't like this", if you can actually logically present why you don't like it and why it should be changed people might suddenly become a lot more cooperative and understanding.
I am by no means trying to defend this difficulty at all costs or anything like that I'm merely trying to tell you that the way you worded your post makes you appear rude and you in some instances - which i highlighted above - your reasoning does not seem to be based on logic but more on "I dislike this because this is not how I mapped the old version of it"
With that much said, I actually liked playing this and congratulations on the qualification, if it stays or not is not by me or grumd to decide but by a team who will either use a bot to post the issues they found in it, or will let it obtain the ranked status
Discussing this further based on how everyone of us feels about the map will not get us anywhere because right now the mapper cannot even change/implement any suggestions into it due to it being qualified.
We could just all get along and help the mapper altogether if it turns out this needs further help, right
Disqualification Notice
This has been disqualified upon request by the mapper or nominating nominator within 12 hours after qualification. Please ensure to make your adjustments and then you are free to requalify it.
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Topic Starter
The reason I wanted it to be DQ'd was the title, [2015] needs to be added to it, im open for suggestions and will look into previous suggestions
I thought if you made the mp3 you're free to title it how you want lol
welp deetz i think you can take the correct metadata for either of the songs used in it, and that's why this is in wip now?
23:45 Okoratu: 04:23:475 (5,6,7,8,1) - like why is this using lower spacing as most of the stuff surrounding it
23:46 Okoratu: you do it in 04:34:854 (5,6,7,8,1) - as well
23:46 Okoratu: so i assume there is a reason
23:47 Kyshiro: the 2nd one is kind of a buildup to the intense jumps
23:47 Kyshiro: the first one, idunno, i map by feeling, and i felt the song was going down in strength a bit on that part
23:47 Kyshiro: and recovered right after
23:47 Okoratu: it loses an instrument there
23:47 Okoratu: i just figured it out
23:48 Okoratu: the instrument that plays on every 1/2 in 04:22:785 (1,2,3,4) -
23:48 Okoratu: suddenly stops for that stream and picks back up in the downbeat
23:48 Okoratu: does that sense xD
23:49 Okoratu: am i the only one having a massive struggle with accuracy and the first part
23:49 Kyshiro: yeah
23:50 Kyshiro: that's normal cause it's 100bpm and 1/6 on some parts loll
23:50 Kyshiro: its too slow
23:50 Okoratu: did you throw both songs together
23:50 Kyshiro: well yes? wasnt that clear yet lol
23:51 Okoratu: not thaat clear because i would have chosen 2 songs with similar speeds
23:51 Okoratu: so that the ar for the first one doesn't feel real high
23:51 Kyshiro: well i looked for a similar sounding/feeling song more than a similar bpm
23:51 Kyshiro: that'd make more sense
23:52 Kyshiro: most people couldnt even tell by the way this went over into eachother 01:34:154 -
23:53 Okoratu: well i found it strange that they suddenly exchange the vocalist from female to male xD
23:53 Kyshiro: why
23:53 Kyshiro: there's female vocals in pavor nocturnus as well
23:53 Kyshiro: 03:06:934 -
23:53 Kyshiro: which are if im not mistaken, the same person
23:54 Kyshiro: cause corpo-mente is a side project from igorrr
23:54 Kyshiro: or at least a seperate band with the same people in it
23:54 Okoratu: yes but suddenly the whole thing changes pacing and vocalist
23:54 Okoratu: so i was like lols when playing
23:54 Kyshiro: well idk i dont think people notice that
23:54 Kyshiro: the pace, sure
23:54 Kyshiro: but the vocals idk
23:55 Kyshiro: and honestly 100 bpm 1/6 isnt so much different from 174bpm??? i think
23:55 Okoratu: 01:57:958 (1) - couldn't this one be better off with crtl g which would make it really similar to 01:55:716 (4,1,2) - but just more spaced dunno
23:57 Okoratu: 02:10:371 (1) - most other downbeats like this have jumps before them and this one sticks out by not having that i think
23:58 Kyshiro: i kinda
23:58 Kyshiro: chose pattern over logic there ithink
23:58 Okoratu: 03:04:165 (1) - does this have 1 repeat too much?
23:58 Kyshiro: LOL
23:59 Kyshiro: uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
23:59 Okoratu: i think it actually does have one more repeat than it should have
23:59 Kyshiro: technically not cause the sound extends even past the note
23:59 Kyshiro: but it does have one more than it should i think yes fuck
00:00 Okoratu: considering how you do stuff like that for playability i think this one is actually not intended xDD
00:00 Kyshiro: i did purposely make it shorter
00:00 Kyshiro: but shit it's 1/16 and probably only made it 1 reverse shorter instead of 2
00:02 Okoratu: i can see how 04:10:371 (1) - might have been longer before
00:02 Kyshiro: that one actually HAS to end there though
00:02 Kyshiro: or
00:02 Kyshiro: what no
00:02 Kyshiro: IDK
00:03 Kyshiro: well the vocals end there
00:03 Kyshiro: is that a valid arguemtn
00:03 Okoratu: like i just said i can understand why you shortened stuff
00:03 Okoratu: because it would literally play like ass if you didnt
00:04 Okoratu: 04:31:578 (7,8,9,10,1) - i think the combination of jump and then direction-breaking low stream spacing provokes chokes unnecessarily
00:04 Okoratu: at least it made me choke twice until i just memorised it
00:04 Okoratu: just saying lols
00:05 Kyshiro: uh
00:05 Okoratu: u can just say that i suck and disregard it xD
00:05 Kyshiro: no i wont
00:05 Kyshiro: i take everything into consideration obviously
00:06 Kyshiro: i get your point but its not even that much of a jump really
00:06 Okoratu: it's not that much of a jump but when considering movements and cursor speed changes
00:06 Okoratu: this one is tricky
00:07 Kyshiro: well it does start the next part with a lowspaced tripple so
00:07 Okoratu: 04:42:440 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - doesn't pitch of this actually increase and streamspace decrease or
00:09 Okoratu: 05:14:509 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - also why does this work so well like everytime i tried something like this it ended up playing like ass for me but this plays so nice are you a magican
00:09 Okoratu: lool
00:10 Kyshiro: pitch increase and so does stream spacing
00:10 Kyshiro: at least that made most sense
00:10 Kyshiro: and lol idek
00:11 Okoratu: ye but why does it lower to 0.6
00:11 Okoratu: wouldn't increasing from base space also be cool
00:12 Kyshiro: oh i started it low
00:12 Kyshiro: because i didnt want to end up with 1.0 to 1.5 lol
00:12 Kyshiro: notes would be seperated
00:12 Kyshiro: and i also keep HR into mind a small bit
00:12 Kyshiro: just a tiny bit
00:12 Okoratu: oh ok makes sense
00:13 Okoratu: though i did think that going from streamspacing you had before would make most sense with nomod, you just couldn't do as drastical changes as you do there right now
00:13 Kyshiro: well i didnt want notes to be seperated in the first place
00:13 Kyshiro: because i hate that myself
00:13 Okoratu: the only thing that annoyed me about the diff actually
00:13 Kyshiro: and it'd be the only part where i did it in the whole map so meh
00:14 Okoratu: was 01:49:251 (6,7,8) - because this turn is sharper than like most other things
00:14 Kyshiro: actually the only thing that annoyed me was this 04:45:544 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
00:14 Okoratu: and myu reading fucked it up
00:14 Kyshiro: cause it looks like ass
00:14 Kyshiro: but couldnt change cause i'd need 2 new bubbles LOL
00:14 Kyshiro: uh
00:14 Kyshiro: it's really sharp yea
00:14 Kyshiro: just not enough for osu to autostack it
00:14 Okoratu: i don't think it needs to be thaat sharp considering the rest of the map and how sudden it is
00:15 Okoratu: so did you req a dq for metaderpa
00:15 Kyshiro: yeah
00:15 Okoratu: i just noticed lol
00:15 Kyshiro: DQ was inevitable
00:15 Okoratu: so you can actually change the stuff you think looks like ass
00:15 Okoratu: x)
00:15 Kyshiro: that too
00:15 Kyshiro: lol
00:16 Okoratu: and if anything i said was usefull at all
00:16 Kyshiro: yeah i'm gonna look back into the chat and fix stuff now
00:16 Okoratu: do whatever you want to
00:16 Kyshiro: so
00:16 Kyshiro: post log and i'll kd lol
00:16 Okoratu: k lol
23:46 Okoratu: you do it in 04:34:854 (5,6,7,8,1) - as well
23:46 Okoratu: so i assume there is a reason
23:47 Kyshiro: the 2nd one is kind of a buildup to the intense jumps
23:47 Kyshiro: the first one, idunno, i map by feeling, and i felt the song was going down in strength a bit on that part
23:47 Kyshiro: and recovered right after
23:47 Okoratu: it loses an instrument there
23:47 Okoratu: i just figured it out
23:48 Okoratu: the instrument that plays on every 1/2 in 04:22:785 (1,2,3,4) -
23:48 Okoratu: suddenly stops for that stream and picks back up in the downbeat
23:48 Okoratu: does that sense xD
23:49 Okoratu: am i the only one having a massive struggle with accuracy and the first part
23:49 Kyshiro: yeah
23:50 Kyshiro: that's normal cause it's 100bpm and 1/6 on some parts loll
23:50 Kyshiro: its too slow
23:50 Okoratu: did you throw both songs together
23:50 Kyshiro: well yes? wasnt that clear yet lol
23:51 Okoratu: not thaat clear because i would have chosen 2 songs with similar speeds
23:51 Okoratu: so that the ar for the first one doesn't feel real high
23:51 Kyshiro: well i looked for a similar sounding/feeling song more than a similar bpm
23:51 Kyshiro: that'd make more sense
23:52 Kyshiro: most people couldnt even tell by the way this went over into eachother 01:34:154 -
23:53 Okoratu: well i found it strange that they suddenly exchange the vocalist from female to male xD
23:53 Kyshiro: why
23:53 Kyshiro: there's female vocals in pavor nocturnus as well
23:53 Kyshiro: 03:06:934 -
23:53 Kyshiro: which are if im not mistaken, the same person
23:54 Kyshiro: cause corpo-mente is a side project from igorrr
23:54 Kyshiro: or at least a seperate band with the same people in it
23:54 Okoratu: yes but suddenly the whole thing changes pacing and vocalist
23:54 Okoratu: so i was like lols when playing
23:54 Kyshiro: well idk i dont think people notice that
23:54 Kyshiro: the pace, sure
23:54 Kyshiro: but the vocals idk
23:55 Kyshiro: and honestly 100 bpm 1/6 isnt so much different from 174bpm??? i think
23:55 Okoratu: 01:57:958 (1) - couldn't this one be better off with crtl g which would make it really similar to 01:55:716 (4,1,2) - but just more spaced dunno
23:57 Okoratu: 02:10:371 (1) - most other downbeats like this have jumps before them and this one sticks out by not having that i think
23:58 Kyshiro: i kinda
23:58 Kyshiro: chose pattern over logic there ithink
23:58 Okoratu: 03:04:165 (1) - does this have 1 repeat too much?
23:58 Kyshiro: LOL
23:59 Kyshiro: uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
23:59 Okoratu: i think it actually does have one more repeat than it should have
23:59 Kyshiro: technically not cause the sound extends even past the note
23:59 Kyshiro: but it does have one more than it should i think yes fuck
00:00 Okoratu: considering how you do stuff like that for playability i think this one is actually not intended xDD
00:00 Kyshiro: i did purposely make it shorter
00:00 Kyshiro: but shit it's 1/16 and probably only made it 1 reverse shorter instead of 2
00:02 Okoratu: i can see how 04:10:371 (1) - might have been longer before
00:02 Kyshiro: that one actually HAS to end there though
00:02 Kyshiro: or
00:02 Kyshiro: what no
00:02 Kyshiro: IDK
00:03 Kyshiro: well the vocals end there
00:03 Kyshiro: is that a valid arguemtn
00:03 Okoratu: like i just said i can understand why you shortened stuff
00:03 Okoratu: because it would literally play like ass if you didnt
00:04 Okoratu: 04:31:578 (7,8,9,10,1) - i think the combination of jump and then direction-breaking low stream spacing provokes chokes unnecessarily
00:04 Okoratu: at least it made me choke twice until i just memorised it
00:04 Okoratu: just saying lols
00:05 Kyshiro: uh
00:05 Okoratu: u can just say that i suck and disregard it xD
00:05 Kyshiro: no i wont
00:05 Kyshiro: i take everything into consideration obviously
00:06 Kyshiro: i get your point but its not even that much of a jump really
00:06 Okoratu: it's not that much of a jump but when considering movements and cursor speed changes
00:06 Okoratu: this one is tricky
00:07 Kyshiro: well it does start the next part with a lowspaced tripple so
00:07 Okoratu: 04:42:440 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - doesn't pitch of this actually increase and streamspace decrease or
00:09 Okoratu: 05:14:509 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - also why does this work so well like everytime i tried something like this it ended up playing like ass for me but this plays so nice are you a magican
00:09 Okoratu: lool
00:10 Kyshiro: pitch increase and so does stream spacing
00:10 Kyshiro: at least that made most sense
00:10 Kyshiro: and lol idek
00:11 Okoratu: ye but why does it lower to 0.6
00:11 Okoratu: wouldn't increasing from base space also be cool
00:12 Kyshiro: oh i started it low
00:12 Kyshiro: because i didnt want to end up with 1.0 to 1.5 lol
00:12 Kyshiro: notes would be seperated
00:12 Kyshiro: and i also keep HR into mind a small bit
00:12 Kyshiro: just a tiny bit
00:12 Okoratu: oh ok makes sense
00:13 Okoratu: though i did think that going from streamspacing you had before would make most sense with nomod, you just couldn't do as drastical changes as you do there right now
00:13 Kyshiro: well i didnt want notes to be seperated in the first place
00:13 Kyshiro: because i hate that myself
00:13 Okoratu: the only thing that annoyed me about the diff actually
00:13 Kyshiro: and it'd be the only part where i did it in the whole map so meh
00:14 Okoratu: was 01:49:251 (6,7,8) - because this turn is sharper than like most other things
00:14 Kyshiro: actually the only thing that annoyed me was this 04:45:544 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
00:14 Okoratu: and myu reading fucked it up
00:14 Kyshiro: cause it looks like ass
00:14 Kyshiro: but couldnt change cause i'd need 2 new bubbles LOL
00:14 Kyshiro: uh
00:14 Kyshiro: it's really sharp yea
00:14 Kyshiro: just not enough for osu to autostack it
00:14 Okoratu: i don't think it needs to be thaat sharp considering the rest of the map and how sudden it is
00:15 Okoratu: so did you req a dq for metaderpa
00:15 Kyshiro: yeah
00:15 Okoratu: i just noticed lol
00:15 Kyshiro: DQ was inevitable
00:15 Okoratu: so you can actually change the stuff you think looks like ass
00:15 Okoratu: x)
00:15 Kyshiro: that too
00:15 Kyshiro: lol
00:16 Okoratu: and if anything i said was usefull at all
00:16 Kyshiro: yeah i'm gonna look back into the chat and fix stuff now
00:16 Okoratu: do whatever you want to
00:16 Kyshiro: so
00:16 Kyshiro: post log and i'll kd lol
00:16 Okoratu: k lol
Topic Starter
the actual song is called Igorrr - Pavor Nocturnus [2015] on soundcloud, so it should be this way i guessdeetz wrote:
I thought if you made the mp3 you're free to title it how you want lol
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outstanding idea tbhgrumd wrote:
You just made your own custom mp3 using two songs from different artists for the sake of it being longer than 5 minutes?
Topic Starter
Okay so I made necessary changes from grumd's post and other people's IRC stuff as well. Rhythm wise I am confident that it's fine now. I take playability highly into consideration whether to place 1/8 or 1/16 sliders or not, I even went further than I normally would here because everyone knows 1/8 sliders play like shit most of the times.
If you got suggestions, go for it
If you got suggestions, go for it
Kyshiro, after reading Okoratu's post I thought I should apologize for being quite impolite and rude. Actually the main reason that made me kinda mad was the fact that you compiled two separate songs that don't even fit to each other. But well, you're free to map whatever you want. Actually there is a song from Igorrr which is meant to be the second part of Pavor Nocturnus, and it's Caros. You can listen how it sounds together here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jTDDOW_R68 This is just one interesting thing you might want to listen to.
But back to the main thing: your map. I indeed wasn't clear at all in my wordings when tried to point out the stuff I find wrong. I'm happy you've disqualified the map and that you're open for improvements. I'll check which changes you did and will post a more detailed mod with clearer explanations. At least I will try. I will try to be less harsh on 1/8s and 1/16s since they're indeed quite subjective, it's hard to tell which one should be mapped in a different way. But I'll try my best to help and search for BNs to requalify it.
But back to the main thing: your map. I indeed wasn't clear at all in my wordings when tried to point out the stuff I find wrong. I'm happy you've disqualified the map and that you're open for improvements. I'll check which changes you did and will post a more detailed mod with clearer explanations. At least I will try. I will try to be less harsh on 1/8s and 1/16s since they're indeed quite subjective, it's hard to tell which one should be mapped in a different way. But I'll try my best to help and search for BNs to requalify it.