1. EZ - 4Key (1.46 stars, 305 notes)
2. HD - 4Key (2.58 stars, 573 notes)
3. MX - 4Key (2.92 stars, 713 notes)
4. NM - 4Key (1.75 stars, 424 notes)

Taiwan_CDZ wrote:

m4m

mod

EZ

1. 00:00:210 (210|3) - first note end at 00:00:210 (210|3) - ?
2. 00:03:066 (3066|2) - for balance ,empty in 4 and pattern with 00:01:995 (1995|0,2352|2,2709|1) - ,move to 4fix
3. 00:04:851 (4851|2) - end at 00:05:118 so i suggest remove thissure
4. 00:05:922 (5922|3,6279|3) - suggest follow the pianook
5. for example 00:04:851 http://i.imgur.com/Zl79vwX.jpg?1
   or you like to follow drums like this http://i.imgur.com/JsX4kyM.jpg?1
   so 00:04:851~00:27:350 remap it pleasek
6. 00:28:065 (28065|2,28779|1,29493|0,30208|1) - remove and remap by single notefix
   00:32:350 (32350|3,33065|2,33779|1) - ^^
   00:35:208 (35208|3,35922|2) - ^^
7. 00:40:565 miss notefix
8. 00:42:350 (42350|3) - turn to 1/2 snap or single noteok
9. 00:42:886 (42886|1,43065|2) - ctrl+J done
10. 00:44:136 (44136|1) - vocal end in 00:44:493fix
11. 00:44:761 (44761|2) - turn to LN if you're following vocalfix
12. 00:45:207
    if you are following drums ,00:45:565 (45565|3) - removedone
    if it's piano ,then 00:45:744 add
13. 00:48:065~00:52:350 remap ,can't understand what you are followingdone
14. 00:53:600 (53600|2,53957|2) - move one to 4 , too empty theredone
15. 00:54:493 (54493|0) - what this mean? removethere is a tom hit there
16. 00:56:636~00:59:493 remap, please follow the musicdone
17. 01:03:421 (63421|3) -
    if follow vocal ,end in 01:04:313
    follow cymbal, end in 01:04:492done
18. 01:14:135 (74135|2,74492|1,74849|0) - remapdone
19. 01:21:456 (81456|0,81634|1,81813|2) - change ,empty in 4ok
20. 01:22:706 (82706|3,83062|2,83241|1,83598|0,83776|2,84134|3) - remap, 01:23:598 (83598|0) - this is piano not drum so change the patternkeeping
21. 01:25:026 (85026|2,85384|0,85562|1) - follow drums this part so remove thesesure

NM

1. 00:00:210 (210|1,924|2) - for balance, ctrl+Hdone
2. 00:01:817 (1817|1) - move to 1done
3. 00:03:958 (3958|2,4137|2,4316|1,4494|1) - no jack sound, changedone
4. 00:09:135 addok
5. 00:13:777 (13777|0) - end in 00:13:955 or 00:14:312done
6. 00:14:669 (14669|3) - end in 00:14:848 or 00:15:384^
7. 00:16:815 (16815|1,16815|2) - don't follow cymbal here ,end in 00:16:994done
8. 00:18:423 and 00:18:958 add or don't follow drum in this note >00:17:619 (17619|3) - fixed
9. 00:27:350 (27350|3,27440|0,27529|3,27618|0,27708|3,27797|0,27886|3,27975|0,28065|3) - remap ,this skill is not for normalok
10. 00:36:279~00:45:207 remap if you want to rank will do
11. 00:48:065 miss notefix
12. 00:48:601 (48601|1,48780|2) - remove and add in 00:48:690ok
13. 00:54:315 add if you're follow pianofollowing drums
14. 00:58:243 (58243|2,58422|1) - ctrl+H for balance fixed
    then 00:58:779 (58779|2) - move to 2done
15. 01:01:100~01:02:350 remapnothing to follow but drum and vocals and drums go into 1/8's so im not gonna follow them in the normal diff.
16. 01:02:528 and 01:03:064 miss notefix
17. 01:25:741 (85741|2,86009|1,86276|0) - follow piano please, you break the rhyme here and has a bad enddingkeeping unless more complain i like the ending as is

recheck HD and MX there are more mistake than EZ and NM

you can call me for recheck when you finish remapping
good luck

One Miss wrote:

00:00:210 (210|3) - first note end at 00:00:210 (210|3) - ?
the first piano sound endding
01:01:100~01:02:350 remapnothing to follow but drum and vocals and drums go into 1/8's so im not gonna follow them in the normal diff.
01:00:565 (60565|2) - end in 01:00:922 then http://i.imgur.com/VErnaMI.jpg?1

Taiwan_CDZ wrote:

One Miss wrote:

00:00:210 (210|3) - first note end at 00:00:210 (210|3) - ?
the first piano sound endding
01:01:100~01:02:350 remapnothing to follow but drum and vocals and drums go into 1/8's so im not gonna follow them in the normal diff.
01:00:565 (60565|2) - end in 01:00:922 then http://i.imgur.com/VErnaMI.jpg?1

free to ask if you're more question

jukkaduei wrote:

JUKKADUEI


did not change

changed

i will think about it

From NM request

Column |0|1|2|3|

Easy

Great diff
00:53:600 (53600|3) - Move to column 2 fixed
00:58:243 (58243|3) - Move to column 1 im going to leave this here because the guitar makes the same sound twice so i feel a jack is appropriate. it doesnt play bad either imo.
01:01:993 (61993|1) - Move to column 0fixed.

Normal

Great diff
00:04:316 (4316|0,4494|1,4673|0,4851|1) - Rearrange. It's repetitivefixed
00:05:922 (5922|0) - Move to column 3 fixed
00:42:172 (42172|3) - Move to column 2fixed good catch.
00:42:350 (42350|3) - Move to column 0fixed

Hard

Great diff
00:17:619 (17619|3,17887|2) - Remove thisusing this for emphasis on the drums and dont think that it plays bad. going to keep this
00:45:565 (45565|2) - Move to column 1after tesplaying i dont think im going to make this change, i feel like it plays better as is.
00:51:993 (51993|3,52172|2,52350|3,52529|2) - Rearrange. Its repetitivefixed

Expert

Great diff
00:11:813 (11813|1,11813|0,11992|2,11992|0,12170|0,12170|3) - Rearrange iti think it plays fine as is, and the patters also builds up to the hand change emphasising the piano pitch change at the hold. keeping,
01:20:742 (80742|3,80920|3) - Rearrange it fixed
01:21:634 (81634|1) - Remove this note and move 01:21:634 (81634|2) - to column 3fixed

This is a great map and I hope this map will get ranked soon

Protastic101 wrote:

Ayyy, m4m fine? I'd request in your queue first, but I don't know if you accept m4m placeholders (which would probably be a good idea to add that) T.T
How do you even time something like this O.O¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Finished.

changed
no change
maby

Column 1|2|3|4

General

- Ignore this if you did it like this intentionally, but Mania diffs are named like Easy -> EZ, Normal -> NM, Hard -> HD, Insane -> MX, Expert/Extra -> SC. Either way, Expert needs to be renamed to Insane to match the general naming spread of diffs. sure
- Increase HP of Expert to ~7.5? 7 is just too forgiving, especially because of the small bursts in this song.sure
- Increase HP of Hard to ~7 for same reason as above. Also, for the note to LN ratio, OD is probably too low. Raise it to ~7.3sure
- Same thing about OD above for Normal, raise it to 7. HP can also be raised to ~7 too, as that's pretty much the accepted minimum in Mania (with few exceptions to mainly LN songs).s u r e
- And for Easy, OD ~6.8 would work, and HP 7 is fine too.s u r e
- Disable Widescreen support and letterboxing on all diffs.

lag

Easy

00:03:423 (3423|1) - Why not make this a 1/1 LN since the piano key is sustained?fixed
00:17:619 (17619|3) - Today I'm being such a spread nazi, my apologies (I went modded backwards, so you'll see what I mean in a sec). Anyways, in Easy, I highly suggest against using jacks that aren't divisible by 2; what I mean is the space between 00:17:351 (17351|3,17619|3) is 3/4 of a beat, which isn't a snapping divisible by two, and will catch easy players off guard due to the inconsistent spacing. Think of it like STD. You use always use Distance Snap in easy so that players can relate time = distance. The same can be said about Mania in that jacks = easy spacing divisible by two (like 1/1 or 1/2 jacks). Anyways, so move to a different column is my suggestion.i just deleted the note $wag
01:18:956 (78956|3) - Turn into a 1/1 LN for the sustained piano.fixed

Normal

00:17:530 (17530|1) - I get you're mapping the piano here, but the piano is much quieter than the drums, so I'd recommend moving this note up to 00:17:589 and 00:17:708 (17708|2) to 00:17:827 and remove 00:17:887 (17887|3) to represent the drums rather than the piano. These are 1/6 snaps btw, but double check me. the 1/6 is why i didn't want include it in the NM diff.
00:33:065 (33065|1,33422|0,33779|0,34136|2) - Why not jack these with 00:32:350 (32350|2,32707|1) since they're all the same pitch and bass? If you want, you can just jack the LNs and leave the notes alone, which I think would be the better solution. 1 am here, so my modding ability is pretty much dead.fixed
00:36:636 (36636|1,36725|2,36815|3,36904|2) - If you're going to put a 1/4 roll in a normal difficulty, I think it would be easier as a {1234} roll because the mini one handed trill made by 00:36:725 (36725|2,36815|3,36904|2) is probably too much for normal. agreed
00:59:136 (59136|2,59225|1,59315|2,59404|1) - I wouldn't introduce a 1/4 trill at the normal level. Players are still getting used to reading the notes and hand balance, plus trills are really only used in HD+ difficulties, with exception if the bpm is very slow.i think its fine when not isolated to one hand.

Hard

Ok, so you mainly follow piano, nice. You should look into some keysounding, because I think it'd be pretty cool XD
00:27:350 - This {14}{23} chord trill is something you really only see in MX diffs or higher. It doesn't really belong in a HD since players are just beginning to get comfortable with streams and bursts. If you do need to keep this though, I would highly recommend changing this to a {12}{34} chord trill as that's the easiest to hit for beginners.keeping for now
00:53:600 (53600|0,53957|0) - These are only kicks, so reduce them to doubles? The triples are snares, which are louder and more accented.fixed
01:25:384 (85384|3,85384|2,85562|2,85562|3) - Since these are just, uhm, glass clink sounds? Anyways, that, reduce them to a single note jack since there's not as much accent on these.nah im keepin this

Expert

00:01:281 (1281|0,1281|1) - Shouldn't this just be a single note since it's only one piano key, as opposed to 00:01:638 (1638|1,1638|3) which has a piano chord on it?u rite
00:01:817 (1817|0) - This should be a double since there's a piano chord on it.fixed
00:05:029 (5029|1) - I'd suggest making this note a double since it's the same snare as the previous note, but without the crash on it.nope
00:05:208 (5208|2,5208|3) - For this, I'd probably suggest reducing this to a single. While the crash is loud, it doesn't have the same weight a kick or snare does, if that makes sense. I mean like, snares and kicks have bases, in that when they're hit, they feel full and whatnot, but crashes are baseless, in that a crash alone doesn't really have anything to stand on.fixed
00:05:386 (5386|1) - I think I know why you have this here, for the piano, but the piano is rather drowned out by the drum's entrance into this part of the song. Also, for consistency, since you mapped the drums in the first part of the measure, it's a good idea to keep mapping it until the end of the drum's line. This means adding a double at 00:05:565 and reducing 00:05:743 (5743|2,5743|3) to a single.no thanks i think it doesnt break flow, and the only note i specifically followed the drums is the 3 note chord and that was because it shared a note with the piano.
00:06:101 to 00:08:421 - I think the layering is a little confusing here. You use doubles to represent piano, snares, and kicks. In mania, consistency is basically mapping the same sound the same way. For example, if you map a kick using a single note, all your kicks should be represented with a single note (with few exceptions), and since snares tend to be more heavily accented, they're represented with doubles/triples depending on how dense the layering is. My suggestion here is to map all the piano as single notes since they aren't as heavily accented as the drums, notes like 00:07:707 i get what you mean, but the inconsistancy of this song with the constant change in time signature and seemingly uncordinated overlap of instraments leads me to beleive that in the hardest diff this is acceptable. i will leave for now unless complained about later.(7707|3,7707|1,7885|2,7885|0) and make snares double/triple or whatever.
00:16:098 (16098|1) - Make this a double since all other piano notes are doubles like 00:15:562 (15562|2,15562|1,15741|3,15741|0,15919|2,15919|0) fixed
00:16:994 (16994|0,17083|1) - Remove these, these are both ghost notes.lol im retarded
00:18:244 (18244|0,18244|3,18244|1) - Move this to 00:18:423 where the snare is? Right here's only a hat or something.fixed thx
00:32:172 - Add a single note here for the drum?yup
00:34:315 - ^^yup
00:36:636 - This burst should actually end at 00:37:350 since that's where the piano goes onto some weird rhythm. It's also more intuitive to play since some players divide what they read into beats, and leaving this incomplete would feel kind of, confusing I guess?following the xylophone here but your right it plays weird fixed
00:40:922 to 00:41:279 - Add a 1/4 burst for the piano?drowned out kinda by vocals and i dont think it would play well. leaving.
01:01:636 to 01:02:350 - The notes here are actually in 1/3 snap. Therefore, 01:01:725 (61725|1) to 01:01:755 and 01:01:904 (61904|2) to 01:01:874 and 01:02:083 (62083|2) to 01:02:112 and finally, 01:02:261 (62261|0) to 01:02:231how did i miss that lmao thx
01:06:904 - Add a note here for the hihat?nah its too quiet.
01:25:384 (85384|1,85384|2,85384|3,85562|3,85562|1,85562|2) - Reduce to doubles since they're not as heavily accented?i guess =w=
01:25:919 and 01:26:098 - I'd recommend adding a single note here for the piano to get a kind of hooked note feel.its cool but idk how it plays with the sv change. i will think about it

It's a marathon, but barely over 5 minutes, is that all right?

Ochasan wrote:

M4M as you can see :p

before reading the mod, i want you to give the reason for my opinion

agree < =#40BF00
disagree < =#FF0000
will be considered < =#0000FF

MOD

AiMod
for all diff, A preview point for this map is not set. Consider setting one from the Timing menu.lmao im retarded

Countdown is not allowed in mania mode.good to know

NM
00:59:136 please make this stairs, it because new players may not be able to hit that part. i beg you to rearrange, maybe make that stairs
all checked, clearly. not sure on 1/4 snap note :/2nd complaint about this :^ ( fixed.

HD
00:48:423 Kiai time is toggled on for less than 15 seconds.oops
01:25:830 Two timing points exist at the same time!oops again
i hate this .-. 00:45:922 to 00:48:065 why do you make 2 timing kiai? i think it is not allowed even if there is no errortwas a mistake chill
00:05:029 bass in here (song and piano)sure
00:50:030 and 00:50:208 same, bass here (same reason)sure
all clear

MX
00:05:565 add a note? trust me, high end player can get bored with it although one note only. and also to complicate the diffsure

for me, MX diff lack something that makes it difficult, because I want you to make it more difficult MX ( 3 stars and advance player can pass ) like making jack maby i will try to make it harder but im just mapping to properly represent the song not overmap and make patterns only for difficulty.

sorry for shot mod, i am confused with what do I find here sorry

Cipse wrote:

Here's a mod. One difficulty, though

0 1 2 3

NM

00:07:528 (7528|0,7707|1,7885|0,8064|1) - {0,1,0,1} is difficult to play because the notes are all in one hand. Also, the pitches are not the same for all the notes so don't make a trill. Change the pattern to {a,b,c,d} or {a,b,c,a}, as the pitches at 00:07:528 - and 00:08:064 - are the same fixed but pitches are not the same.

00:08:064 (8064|1,8064|2) - change this to a single. There's a drum there but I find it out of place, considering that you didn't map it at 00:05:565 - and especially at 00:06:993 -keeping. i didnt map the snare on those points because one is in the middle of a slider and the other is at the end of one and i felt it would be too difficult for the NM

00:13:777 (13777|0) - move the end of the slider to 00:14:134 -. Yes, you might be following the vocals with that LN but I'd just stick to the piano - since it is what you were mapping in this section. Also, the LN would be tricky to play - people are not expecting the end of a slider to end there and the LN/SN are in the same handfixed
00:14:669 (14669|3) - ^^

Dropping the piano part between 00:16:277 - and 00:17:172 - feels weird to me. I'd put it back in, even if you have to delete 00:16:277 (16277|0,16280|3,16815|1,16815|2) - keeping because the piano here gets drowned out by the drum and the drums there would be too hard i feel.

00:25:922 - add a note (piano)sure

00:26:993 (26993|1,27350|1) - these shouldn't be in the same row. I'd move the LN to {0}sure

Between 00:28:065 - I'd definitely continue following the piano part. The vocals are less interesting and you've already followed the piano up until this point. I'll give the points when they appearok

00:28:065 (28065|3,28422|2,28779|3,29136|2) - these shouldn't be in the same columns, their pitches aren't the samefixed

00:30:922 - add a note (piano). This means that the LN needs to be changed as wellfixed but ln is fine

00:31:279 (31279|2,31636|2) - remove the jack, the pitches aren't the samefixed

00:32:350 (32350|2,32707|1,33065|1,33422|2) - again, these shouldn't be in the same column. They can have the same pattern, like {3,2,1,0} or {3,2,0,1}fixed

If you decided to follow the vocals previously, 00:34:136 (34136|0) - is a ghostswitched to piano

00:34:850 - add note (piano). This should be an LN as there are multiple sounds
00:35:208 - add note (piano)there is no piano note here

00:36:993 - add a note (piano)not following piano here man

00:37:618 (37618|2) - belongs at 00:37:707 - because the piano sounds there^
00:38:332 (38332|2) - belongs at 00:38:422 -, same reason^

00:38:600 (38600|3) - this is a ghost^
00:39:047 (39047|3) - ^^

00:38:957 - add a note (piano)^
00:39:136 - ^^

00:39:761 (39761|0) - another ghost^

00:39:672 - add a note (piano)^
00:39:850 - ^^

00:40:475 (40475|2) - ghost note^

00:40:565 - add a double; piano and crashz im folloing the xylaphone in this entire section..

00:40:743 - ghost^

Keep 00:40:922 (40922|0,41100|1) - consistent with 00:36:636 (36636|0,36725|1,36815|2,36904|3) -, as have the same piano partdrums follow an easier beat here and also build up to the next section.

00:48:690 (48690|2) - ghostthere is a kick here from drum.

Add notes to 00:48:601 - and 00:48:780 - for the piano. Also, the effect of the LN and the jack are kinda of ruined if the previous rhythm don't come back at the start of the next bar

Continue mapping the piano between 00:52:529 - and 00:54:315 - feels weird, like before. The piano part hasn't stopped playing notes so dropping the it and mapping the drums/kicks feels really offi dont agree, drums and the vocals are louder than the piano in most of this song. and if i mapped piano the entire time it would be hardly audible. even at 25% its hard to hear sometimes...

00:54:850 (54850|0,55207|0) - remove the jack, there's no point in having it therefull measure of break this doesnt even count as a jack imo.

I would add a note to 00:57:083 - and 00:57:350 - then remove 00:56:993 (56993|3) - and 00:57:172 (57172|2) -. 00:57:083 - and 00:57:350 - have piano sounds, so adding notes there is expected. 00:56:993 (56993|3) - has a drum sound but will feel weird to play with the different rhythm of the piano here and I don't know what 00:57:172 (57172|2) - is mapping

00:59:850 (59850|1,60386|1) - move these to different columns, as they have no reason to be in the samethe reason is the number of rows away it is from the next note. it doesnt have as high of a pitch change so a smaller jump would be more fitting here

01:00:565 (60565|2) - if you're mapping the vocals, it ends earlier than how you've mapped itfixed

01:02:350 (62350|0,62707|0,63064|0) - move these to different columns againfixed

01:03:421 (63421|1,63421|2) - the crash isn't a sustained sound, I'd change a LN into an SNfixed

01:07:172 - add a note (piano). Also change 01:06:993 (66993|3) - into a SNnah i think the hold follows the piano better, and i dont want to add the note for difficulty spread purposes

01:15:920 (75920|2,76099|3,76277|2,76456|3,76813|2) - {2,3,2,3,2}? The pitches aren't the same so don't keep this awkward patternfixed

01:17:884 (77884|0,78242|0) - different pitches, different columnsfixed
01:21:456 (81456|0,81813|0) - ^

01:21:991 - add a note (piano)

01:22:349 (82349|3) - this is a drum, not a piano. Change to an SN
01:22:527 - add a note (piano)
01:24:312 - ^

01:25:384 (85384|3,85562|3) - I guess the weird sound effect could be mapped in the same column but the piano pitches are different. If you want to keep them in the same column, make the notes before and after, in this case 01:25:205 (85205|1) - and 01:25:741 (85741|2) -, both go in a different hand otherwise it's not effective - switching hands makes it feel better, if you ask me. Also make sure that 01:25:205 (85205|1,85741|2) - don't go in the same column

01:26:009 - don't drop the piano right before it finishes. Add a note here. Keep this note in the opposite hand to 01:26:009 (86009|1) - if you're keeping it, to show that they are not mapping the same instruments
01:26:098 - ^

Raveille wrote:

K let's get this done!

|1|2|3|4|

EZ

00:28:779 - drum beat for contrast so double
00:30:208 - likewise
00:31:636 - likewise
00:33:065 - likewise
00:34:315 - would like a double here
00:35:208 - this part is very bland and empty. click me for suggestion!
00:45:923 - chorus + kiai = double here
00:58:065 (58065|3,58243|3) - if this is EZ, better not have such a stack here
01:15:206 (75206|2) - can be a hold to emphasize ending of portion
this difficulty is a little messy as sometimes you map to the piano and then the drums. look through and see which instrument you really want to map and stick with it.

accepted all

NM

00:22:173 (22173|1,22530|1,22886|1,23243|1,23600|1,23958|1,24315|1) - eh...switch these notes around
00:52:707 (52707|0,52707|1,53065|2,53065|1,53422|2,53422|3,53600|0,53600|1,53957|1,53957|0,54136|3,54136|2) - this part is going to question me why add doubles here and not the same for the others? will close one eye on this one.
again, if you wanna map this, either add all instruments at once or stick with one, not switch between instruments.

accepted all, however i dont agree that im not allowed to switch instruments as long as it flows well. and i think it does. also the piano gets drowned out by the vocals and drums a lot of times and i feel it is better to map what is most emphasized in that section. the song has a lot of jazzy roots where the instruments "fight" for the spotlight, and i feel like that is reflected in the mapset.

HD

00:24:940 (24940|0,25118|0) - ghost notes to me, slowed to 25% and can't hear a thing there
00:31:636 - missing note to complete double
00:33:065 - again here

fixed.

MX

00:55:207 (55207|3,55565|1,55922|3,56279|2) - you are seriously mapping to vocals????? why suddenly here out of the whole song?because the drum and piano follow the same beat except they just arent holds. if you have a suggestion for what i should do otherwise feel free to show me and i will consider it, but i dont see any reason to change this atm.
01:21:099 - why a triple here? doesn't sound any louder than the other doubles

I really don't know if this is a good song to map because everywhere sounds off, but ok, take risks and chances. Good luck thx for mod!