forum

The Mafia Tree - Game Over

posted
Total Posts
1,971
show more
Amianki
Sec

Unvote: Haneii
Amianki
Actually, that's not enough to confirm him town since every PR was limited.

I'm still like 90% convinced it's Haneii.
Haneii

Amianki wrote:

I'm still like 90% convinced it's Haneii.
Yet you unvote me lol.

Also, that reasoning for voting me in the first place...

Btw, why did you protect Slaini N4?



When it comes to last night, I didn't hear anything, and I agree that the MB kill makes little sense. Gonna re-read the game (After I get more sleep. 5 am posting on a Saturday. What is wrong with me?).
Amianki
siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh
Amianki
Well, this day is basically a crapshoot then. The bolded name almost certainly means they can't hear or be heard.
Amianki
The worst part is that I can see scum both doing this to themselves and town, so that doesn't even mean anything.
Haneii

Amianki wrote:

Well, this day is basically a crapshoot then. The bolded name almost certainly means they can't hear or be heard.
You're only now coming to that conclusion?



Amianki wrote:

The worst part is that I can see scum both doing this to themselves and town, so that doesn't even mean anything.
The worst part? How does that make a difference for you? 90% sure I'm scum, remember?



@RB: why did you vote NS?
Raging Bull
I have extremely limited connection so sorry for slow posts.


I thought I said that poe all were confirmed town except me and NS. I also couldnt see how slaini push made sense ever since d4(?) . Why would scum made sound next to NS who was town read next day after jess lynch? I didnt find his push townlike, especially that he will be alone if slaini is lynched too.

Honestly the worst thing is the fact why im still alive and not MB. Im probably null at best.
While MB can probably read more town or scum than me.

@CB what are your comments about the nightkill?
Raging Bull
@haneii. Why do you think CB can be scum? (Based on other posts, not this day.)
Haneii

Raging Bull wrote:

@haneii. Why do you think CB can be scum? (Based on other posts, not this day.)
I never really did. He's always been just below my radar at null/null scum. However, never placed him as town (hasn't done anything townie), but I decided to consider him town after the Ace lynch (It doesn't make much sense to have Jess with a townie above and below her to perform a night kill, when he could have done it without being heard.)





Probably a really stupid question but:


Do actions/targeting still go through if the person doing the action dies that night?
Topic Starter
Sakura

Haneii wrote:

Do actions/targeting still go through if the person doing the action dies that night?
This is dependant on NAR, however if the player was roleblocked then the action wont go through regardless.
Haneii

Sakura wrote:

Haneii wrote:

Do actions/targeting still go through if the person doing the action dies that night?
This is dependant on NAR, however if the player was roleblocked then the action wont go through regardless.
I think I got it, but just to double check.

Someone (A) got role blocked, but the roleblocker (B) themselves die that same night. Does the initial person (A) still give off a sound/or give off any indication that they were targeted?
Topic Starter
Sakura
I'll clarify it then.
A person that takes action and is roleblocked still counts as having taken an action.
A person that is roleblocked doesn't visit anyone.
Roleblock takes presedence over kill, so even if the roleblocker dies, their roleblock still goes through.
Haneii
Yay! Got it thanks.

Unfortunately, I was headed no where with this (Sorry for wasting your time, Sakura! At least I learned something!). Thought there was a possibility that Amianki could have done the kill instead of Jess (in the case that Jess was role blocked and that's what triggered the sound). I mistakenly thought Pieguy was just a role blocker, not a global compulsive day specific RB. Derp.

I don't really have a reason for thinking Amianki is town. However the fact that (if he were scum) the Jess lynch could have been prevented + the lack of bussing, prevent me from viewing amianki as scum atm.
Haneii
So neither of you plan to post all day? :sadface:
Raging Bull
Not intentionally, bit i said i have limited connection. (All up in mountain.)

Has there been any connection between ace and CB? Im not sure, except for CB voting ace. Did they talk much?

If you guys have that bolded name power, would you guys target town, scum, or self(regardless of alignment)
Raging Bull
Lol self wont make sense as town. Nvm. Would you target yourself as scum?
Haneii

Raging Bull wrote:

Lol self wont make sense as town. Nvm. Would you target yourself as scum?
If I were scum I'd use it for the same purpose for either choice (bold naming someone else or myself) - to scum paint the people surrounding the bolded name.

As town, and if I had a choice, I'd avoid using it completely, considering we lose out on gathering new information (Same to scum, but I feel like the sounds are more valuable to town for scum hunting).

Why do you ask, RB?
Haneii
Amianki, why did you unvote me?

If you think there's a chance RB's scum, tell us how.

If you wanted to keep the game going a bit longer, why aren't you posting?
Amianki
I actually realized the moment after I voted that my logic for RB being conftown was wrong since it's impossible sounds haven't been tampered with and I've been meaning to try to piece together sound claims from the past days. I just haven't gotten around to it yet.

I've been not here today because my brain refuses to function today. It probably won't be much better tomorrow, but should be fine on Monday.
Amianki
The name bolding is 100% a scum action or it would've been claimed or been obvious from flips by now.
Haneii

Amianki wrote:

I've been not here today because my brain refuses to function today. It probably won't be much better tomorrow, but should be fine on Monday.
I can't accept/allow that. I have limited access during the work week, so I'd prefer we use this weekend to the fullest.

Amianki, I want you to role claim right now! In addition, I want you to tell us the two people you've targeted and on what nights (you've posted this one already but I want everything explicitly mentioned in a single post now, please).
Amianki
2-shot doctor.

Protected NS on the night nobody died (3?) and SLaiNi the night after.
Haneii
Thanks.

Another question (something already asked of you earlier but we didn't really get an answer): What did slaini do Day 5 to make you vote for him?
Raging Bull
Sorry. Give me like 2 3 hours. Leaving mountain now
Haneii
*sigh*
Raging Bull
Sorry. It took a lot longer than I thought. You arent the only one who is busy. You might as well as mod to prod me few hours ago if you really need to talk to me.


I wanted to ask to hear about peoples thoughts as see what might be likely.

@haneii i prefer you keep it one choice. As for me if scum, i would prefer to target self. If i target other people, chances are that we have to kill them eventually. If i target self or another scum, we can make full use of noise block.

I suppose it is true why town wont have that power. Idk why i ask that.

I still like to see what CB thinks.
Amianki

Amianki wrote:

Sorry, I can only see two possibilities right now:

1. Notscience was targeted for a kill and survived.
2. Scum no-kill gambited. This actually incriminates sLaiNi, if anyone, because he was the one who was trying so hard to get a massclaim of sounds.

Vote: sLaiNi

I really think we're overthinking this game by a massive amount.
What's ambiguous about this?
Haneii

Amianki wrote:

Amianki wrote:

Sorry, I can only see two possibilities right now:

1. Notscience was targeted for a kill and survived.
2. Scum no-kill gambited. This actually incriminates sLaiNi, if anyone, because he was the one who was trying so hard to get a massclaim of sounds.

Vote: sLaiNi

I really think we're overthinking this game by a massive amount.
What's ambiguous about this?
Nothing at all. But those are things you knew Day 4, yet you still chose to protect him that night. Which means you must have still thought he was town/most likely to be NK.

I'll ask again. What did Slaini do Day 5 that made you vote for him?
Amianki

Amianki wrote:

We were in a situation where NS and sLaiNi both heard each other two nights in a row and claimed actions didn't account for the discrepancy. Occam's razor says that sLaiNi is the scum in that scenario because of who was protected from kills at the time as well as his play after the kill was blocked.

This conclusion could only have been reached after night 4 since Ace Timing's scum flip kind of cleared up the air by itself and sLaiNi looked like the strongest contender for the nightkill at the time.
Raging Bull
Its probably because they both heard noises again and that slaini wasnt targetted for NK.

Haneii, do you know any reason why you were blocked?


CB what would you do if given noise block?
Raging Bull
Seeing as DL is approaching in 3 days, i will state that I will be voting for haneii tomorrow and avoid rushing. I cannot see (yet) CB being scum. States protected NS(?) and slaini. NS and Slaini both flipped town. No one also counter claimed doc. I cant see scum doc in that. Nothing in haneii particularly points him out as scum, but i feel like he became a little more passive lately and i dont see him as town as before.
Amianki
If I had an antitown role as town, I'd only use it to prove I had it. As scum, I'd probably use it either on myself or to someone next to me.
Amianki
Second sentence was to the specific role, if there was confusion.
Haneii

Amianki wrote:

I actually realized the moment after I voted that my logic for RB being conftown was wrong since it's impossible sounds haven't been tampered with and I've been meaning to try to piece together sound claims from the past days. I just haven't gotten around to it yet.

I've been not here today because my brain refuses to function today. It probably won't be much better tomorrow, but should be fine on Monday.

Got time yet?
Amianki
Kinda.

I have a faint memory of RB claiming another power. Did he ever put all that info in one post?
Raging Bull
Not that im aware of. I only hinted using a power, but haneii guess is correct. I toleblocked slaini and drezi.

If you were scum, why would you not use it on someone not near? I feel like you are more capable of defending or talking your way out of a sound claim and affect more people with noise block.
Haneii

Raging Bull wrote:

Not that im aware of. I only hinted using a power, but haneii guess is correct. I toleblocked slaini and drezi.
When have I guessed it? Also, you've never mentioned performing an action on slaini before now. What night did you role block slaini?
Raging Bull

Haneii wrote:

I agree. Do you really think they got 1 goon and 2 DVs? while we get dvs, a cop, a role blocker, a bus driver, and possible doc?

Pg 117. Am I wrong? Well its few days ago so ill give you that. I blocked slaini N1 after his hammer.
Raging Bull
I dont think I ever had a need to say i targetted slaini come to think of it. I blocked him, but a kill went through. The bus noise also didnt help anyone with sound making.
show more
Please sign in to reply.

New reply