2016-02-16 01:19 Bence: i was considering changing the ar tho
2016-02-16 01:19 -Doge-: yeah you should
2016-02-16 01:19 Bence: good to heat that from u too
2016-02-16 01:20 -Doge-: and make
2016-02-16 01:20 -Doge-: those
2016-02-16 01:20 -Doge-: sliders
2016-02-16 01:20 -Doge-: omfg
2016-02-16 01:20 -Doge-: xD
2016-02-16 01:20 -Doge-: longer!!!
2016-02-16 01:20 Bence: but there are long sliders too
2016-02-16 01:21 -Doge-: yeah
2016-02-16 01:22 -Doge-: but the song needs either longer, or slower sliders at those long tones
2016-02-16 01:23 -Doge-: 00:14:411 (16) -
2016-02-16 01:23 -Doge-: concider a little break in the stream
2016-02-16 01:24 -Doge-: 00:21:086 (1) -
2016-02-16 01:24 -Doge-: this is overlapped too much already
2016-02-16 01:24 -Doge-: 00:21:536 (4) -
2016-02-16 01:24 -Doge-: make these longer or at least slower
2016-02-16 01:24 -Doge-: 00:22:736 (2) -  same here
2016-02-16 01:25 -Doge-: i suggest make them slower
2016-02-16 01:25 -Doge-: that way you can tweek the part where there are single taps in between the sliders too
2016-02-16 01:25 -Doge-: so that you can be more creative.
2016-02-16 01:26 -Doge-: 00:38:786 (3) -  new combo here, and I really really REALLY like this part, it really feels like a buildup
2016-02-16 01:26 Bence: nazi mod
2016-02-16 01:26 -Doge-: 00:53:336 (4) - move this note up a little bit
2016-02-16 01:26 -Doge-: brah im trying to help./
2016-02-16 01:26 Bence: btw
2016-02-16 01:26 -Doge-: 00:53:936 (1) - triple overlap
2016-02-16 01:26 Bence: i appreciate it
2016-02-16 01:26 Bence: but
2016-02-16 01:27 -Doge-: am I too pushy?
2016-02-16 01:27 Bence: 00:38:186 (1) - 
2016-02-16 01:27 Bence: nono
2016-02-16 01:27 Bence: im looking at the parts
2016-02-16 01:27 Bence: but for example that part is the new combo
2016-02-16 01:27 -Doge-: oh yeah okay
2016-02-16 01:27 Bence: now the 3rd
2016-02-16 01:27 -Doge-: yeah, its a little small detail
2016-02-16 01:27 Bence: but im listening to every point and checking them in editor
2016-02-16 01:27 -Doge-: but like
2016-02-16 01:27 Bence: so go on
2016-02-16 01:27 -Doge-: alright
2016-02-16 01:27 -Doge-: okay
2016-02-16 01:27 -Doge-: but you dont agree with the new combo or?
2016-02-16 01:27 Bence: no
2016-02-16 01:28 -Doge-: because it doesnt have to start a new combo at 3
2016-02-16 01:28 Bence: its 8-8
2016-02-16 01:28 -Doge-: alright alright
2016-02-16 01:28 Bence: like
2016-02-16 01:28 Bence: theres a pre-part and makes it 9
2016-02-16 01:28 -Doge-: 00:56:711 (4) -
2016-02-16 01:28 -Doge-: i like this.
2016-02-16 01:28 -Doge-: the ministreams in between
2016-02-16 01:29 -Doge-: its good they are triples
2016-02-16 01:29 Bence: i listened to the whole song in 25% while mapping it was so fast
2016-02-16 01:29 Bence: so its not overmapped at all
2016-02-16 01:29 -Doge-: doubles wouldnt fit
2016-02-16 01:29 -Doge-: its not overmapped at all
2016-02-16 01:29 -Doge-: its great
2016-02-16 01:29 Bence: i didnt even know what it would sound like until i finished parts
2016-02-16 01:29 -Doge-: 01:01:436 (4) -  overlap a little too much
2016-02-16 01:30 -Doge-: 01:03:836 (4) -
2016-02-16 01:30 -Doge-: i like these triples tho
2016-02-16 01:30 -Doge-: but make them a little more visual.
2016-02-16 01:30 -Doge-: maybe place them down a little or so
2016-02-16 01:30 Bence: but its so fun to hide it
2016-02-16 01:30 Bence: artificial difficulty
2016-02-16 01:31 -Doge-: yeah but like
2016-02-16 01:31 -Doge-: do you want more or less people playing your map?:P
2016-02-16 01:32 -Doge-: 01:29:936 (3) - longer or slower
2016-02-16 01:32 -Doge-: 01:31:136 (2) - same
2016-02-16 01:32 Bence: 01:06:986 (4) - 
2016-02-16 01:32 Bence: i just fixed this
2016-02-16 01:32 Bence: progress
2016-02-16 01:32 -Doge-: 01:32:936 (3) -  i like these triangles
2016-02-16 01:32 Bence: and btw
2016-02-16 01:32 Bence: it wont ever get ranked
2016-02-16 01:33 -Doge-: 01:34:736 (4) - longer
2016-02-16 01:33 Bence: so i dont really care that much about who plays it or not
2016-02-16 01:33 -Doge-: actualyl
2016-02-16 01:33 -Doge-: it will tbh....
2016-02-16 01:33 -Doge-: it really will!
2016-02-16 01:33 -Doge-: trust me
2016-02-16 01:33 -Doge-: this is like, final touches
2016-02-16 01:33 -Doge-: xD
2016-02-16 01:33 Bence: theres no way im going to make an easy normal hard and insane difficulty
2016-02-16 01:33 Bence: so no
2016-02-16 01:34 -Doge-: if you want me to do them
2016-02-16 01:34 -Doge-: i will
2016-02-16 01:34 -Doge-: because I really want to see this get ranked
2016-02-16 01:35 -Doge-: i bet, that if we talk to the right people it will get ranked in no-time
2016-02-16 01:35 -Doge-: 01:35:936 (2) - longer
2016-02-16 01:35 -Doge-: 01:39:536 (4) - .
2016-02-16 01:35 -Doge-: 01:40:736 (2) -
2016-02-16 01:35 Bence: i cant make them longer
2016-02-16 01:35 Bence: they are never ending
2016-02-16 01:35 -Doge-: 01:44:336 (4) -
2016-02-16 01:35 Bence: until the next beat
2016-02-16 01:35 Bence: i mean next note
2016-02-16 01:36 -Doge-: soft ending
2016-02-16 01:36 -Doge-: and make it stop just before
2016-02-16 01:36 Bence: WE HAVE A NEW MAP TO WORK ON
2016-02-16 01:36 -Doge-: 02:06:536 (4) - overlap
2016-02-16 01:37 -Doge-: just, trust me on this ok?
2016-02-16 01:37 Bence: but im not doing it atm
2016-02-16 01:37 -Doge-: oh well then ok
2016-02-16 01:37 Bence: im tired and dont want to edit it like this
2016-02-16 01:37 Bence: because it would be shit
2016-02-16 01:37 Bence: i have the chatlog tho so dont worry
2016-02-16 01:37 -Doge-: alright
2016-02-16 01:38 -Doge-: 02:17:786 (6) -
2016-02-16 01:38 Bence: oh thats a hard part
2016-02-16 01:38 Bence: almost failed there
2016-02-16 01:38 -Doge-: the notes here are too overlapping, try to spread them out a little, i like the patterns, but make it visual
2016-02-16 01:38 -Doge-: i like the triangles there
2016-02-16 01:38 -Doge-: but its so hard to see, when the triangles overlap the back and forth jumps
2016-02-16 01:39 Bence: yeah it was hard to read even on ar10
2016-02-16 01:39 -Doge-: yeah
2016-02-16 01:39 -Doge-: i like the streams
2016-02-16 01:40 -Doge-: but I thing you should watch out with them curving this much, like, they go one way and then immidiatly the other way
2016-02-16 01:40 -Doge-: the music enables it to be possible
2016-02-16 01:40 Bence: intended
2016-02-16 01:40 -Doge-: but it doesnt honor the stars, those streams are like 6.8* streams
2016-02-16 01:40 -Doge-: eventho the map is 6.2
2016-02-16 01:40 Bence: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4542616
2016-02-16 01:40 -Doge-: but I like the effect tho
2016-02-16 01:41 Bence: fug
2016-02-16 01:41 -Doge-: at the 8
2016-02-16 01:41 -Doge-: yeah
2016-02-16 01:41 Bence: i literally took an example from 6.8
2016-02-16 01:41 Bence: 6.78 but still
2016-02-16 01:42 -Doge-: 03:26:636 (4) - triples overlapping
2016-02-16 01:42 -Doge-: :PPP
2016-02-16 01:43 -Doge-: 03:55:136 (3) - longer
2016-02-16 01:43 -Doge-: 03:56:336 (2) -  same
2016-02-16 01:43 -Doge-: 03:59:936 (4) -  same
2016-02-16 01:43 -Doge-: 04:01:136 (2) -
2016-02-16 01:43 Bence: u pointed that out a few times lol
2016-02-16 01:43 -Doge-: 04:04:736 (4) -
2016-02-16 01:43 -Doge-: just so its easier to check
2016-02-16 01:43 -Doge-: 04:05:936 (2) -
2016-02-16 01:44 -Doge-: 04:09:536 (4) -
2016-02-16 01:44 Bence: i was about to go to sleep at 1 am
2016-02-16 01:44 -Doge-: 04:12:086 (1) -  i think there could be singles after this, even if its a slow (relaxing) part
2016-02-16 01:44 Bence: because i wake up at 6
2016-02-16 01:44 -Doge-: oh fuck titballs
2016-02-16 01:44 -Doge-: this late huh
2016-02-16 01:44 Bence: thats why i said i would time the map
2016-02-16 01:44 Bence: and go
2016-02-16 01:45 -Doge-: 04:15:386 (1) -
2016-02-16 01:45 -Doge-: almost done
2016-02-16 01:45 -Doge-: 04:16:886 (2) - timing this
2016-02-16 01:45 -Doge-: 04:17:786 (3) -
2016-02-16 01:45 -Doge-: 04:20:336 (2) -
2016-02-16 01:45 -Doge-: nice
2016-02-16 01:45 -Doge-: the map dude
2016-02-16 01:45 -Doge-: its awesome
2016-02-16 01:45 Bence: thanks

11:14 *Bence is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/903180 F-777 - Airborne Robots]
11:14 Bence: its fast
11:17 -Kanzaki: Ds neverbroken ?
11:17 -Kanzaki: :D
11:17 Bence: huh
11:17 Bence: nice
11:19 Bence: yeah i might refine those jumps without ds
11:19 -Kanzaki: its
11:19 -Kanzaki: how can i say
11:19 -Kanzaki: old stylish
11:19 Bence: boring?
11:19 -Kanzaki: eh not boring
11:20 -Kanzaki: but quality
11:20 -Kanzaki: you never break DS
11:20 -Kanzaki: to emphasize
11:20 -Kanzaki: something
11:20 -Kanzaki: like every object is same
11:20 -Kanzaki: just streaight forward
11:20 -Kanzaki: there aare no jumps
11:21 -Kanzaki: lemme show you some example
11:21 Bence: i figured its already pretty fast
11:21 Bence: so thought patterns would be sufficient
11:21 Bence: but i agree with what you said
11:21 -Kanzaki: ş mean
11:21 -Kanzaki: i
11:21 -Kanzaki: if you know what i mean
11:21 -Kanzaki: okay
11:22 Bence: its kinda my first map so im still afraid to break ds, guess ill do it
11:22 Bence: thanks for the help :p
11:22 -Kanzaki: but
11:22 -Kanzaki: first
11:22 -Kanzaki: learn how to break DS
11:22 -Kanzaki: you dont randomly break it
11:22 -Kanzaki: you have to give reasons to them
11:23 -Kanzaki: you break the DS when you follow something else on music
11:23 -Kanzaki: or
11:23 -Kanzaki: if the beat is stronger than usual
11:23 Bence: hmm
11:23 -Kanzaki: and you nc
11:23 Bence: could you say an example in my map?
11:23 -Kanzaki: yea sure
11:24 -Kanzaki: 00:02:186 (7) - 
11:24 -Kanzaki: its something different right
11:24 -Kanzaki: you made it with slider
11:24 -Kanzaki: because of it?
11:24 Bence: oh i see
11:24 -Kanzaki: you can also
11:24 -Kanzaki: place it somewhere else than usual
11:25 -Kanzaki: 00:19:736 (3) - 
11:25 -Kanzaki: this beat could be emphsized
11:25 -Kanzaki: 00:20:336 (6,8) - 
11:25 -Kanzaki: this and this also
11:25 -Kanzaki: but not huge spaces
11:25 -Kanzaki: they are stornger but not so much stronger 
11:26 -Kanzaki: 00:40:586 (9,1) - 
11:26 -Kanzaki: break DS 
11:27 -Kanzaki: 00:56:711 (4,5,6,7) - 00:54:236 (4,5,6) - the spacing you used
11:27 -Kanzaki: are same
11:27 -Kanzaki: but i believe the first one i said is something more exciting
11:27 -Kanzaki: so they should be different
11:27 -Kanzaki: did you get the main idea?
11:27 -Kanzaki: 01:08:336 (7) - 
11:27 Bence: yeah
11:28 -Kanzaki: 01:09:536 (7) - 
11:28 -Kanzaki: totally need to be somewhere further
11:28 Bence: im just thinking about how to fix these
11:28 -Kanzaki: 01:11:411 (1) - 
11:28 -Kanzaki: yea
11:28 -Kanzaki: this one
11:28 -Kanzaki: super stronger
11:28 -Kanzaki: you can check
11:28 -Kanzaki: other maps
11:28 -Kanzaki: to see
11:28 -Kanzaki: check thier object placement reasons
11:29 -Kanzaki: if yo dont understand ask them they will tell the reasons why they did that placement different from others
11:29 Bence: i have like 50k pc and still can't map :v
11:29 -Kanzaki: its not about play count
11:29 -Kanzaki: mapping is totally something else
11:29 -Kanzaki: from playing
11:30 Bence: yeah but as someone who plays a lot of different maps should know what a map should look like
11:30 Bence: i might be wrong
11:30 -Kanzaki: meh
11:30 -Kanzaki: i was same
11:30 -Kanzaki: when i started mapping
11:30 -Kanzaki: i didnt break DS
11:30 -Kanzaki: because first times in this gae
11:30 -Kanzaki: people didnt map this way
11:31 -Kanzaki: when you check old maps your style actually same with them
11:31 -Kanzaki: i can show you my map if you want to understand with examples
11:31 Bence: sure
11:31 *-Kanzaki is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/785960 Celldweller - Pulsar [Insane]]
11:31 -Kanzaki: open it and ask 
11:32 -Kanzaki: me
11:32 -Kanzaki: why specific object is that way
11:32 -Kanzaki: at first calm part
11:32 -Kanzaki: i didnt break DS either
11:32 -Kanzaki: cause its calm
11:32 -Kanzaki: no need to
11:33 -Kanzaki: 00:08:707 (1) - 
11:33 -Kanzaki: but on these
11:33 Bence: ok why is this not in line 00:50:480 (6,1) -
11:33 -Kanzaki: 00:03:125 (1) - 
11:33 -Kanzaki: yea
11:33 -Kanzaki: its
11:33 -Kanzaki: as you can see i follow something else
11:33 -Kanzaki: with it
11:33 -Kanzaki: guitar
11:33 -Kanzaki: not the drum anymore
11:34 -Kanzaki: get it?
11:34 Bence: makes sense
11:34 Bence: good map btw
11:34 -Kanzaki: ty
11:34 -Kanzaki: its DQed
11:34 -Kanzaki: tho
11:35 Bence: especially those pauses on notes
11:35 Bence: i love them
11:35 -Kanzaki: yea eveybody loves puses
11:35 -Kanzaki: pauses :D
11:35 -Kanzaki: i call it stop n play
11:35 Bence: i kinda see now what you mean
11:35 Bence: ill have to learn a lot
11:35 -Kanzaki: okay
11:35 Bence: i can give you 2 kds if you want
11:36 -Kanzaki: okay so show me from my map
11:36 Bence: you really did help
11:36 -Kanzaki: okay iwill post in thread
11:36 -Kanzaki: lemme test you
11:36 -Kanzaki: show me one on my map
11:36 Bence: alright
11:36 -Kanzaki: and find the reason
11:36 -Kanzaki: by you self
11:37 Bence: 01:29:462 (7,1) -
11:37 -Kanzaki: yea
11:37 -Kanzaki: you think why
11:37 Bence: music "speeds" up
11:37 -Kanzaki: yea
11:37 -Kanzaki: and the drum strong
11:38 -Kanzaki: 01:47:079 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,1) - 
11:38 -Kanzaki: the best part you can understand here tho
11:38 -Kanzaki: lots of breaks
11:38 Bence: 00:36:439 (4,1) -  close off the combo and switching to new instrument
11:39 -Kanzaki: yep
11:39 -Kanzaki: also ncing is pretty same
11:39 -Kanzaki: you can nc when changing instrument
11:40 -Kanzaki: okay good tho you get the idea i believe
11:40 Bence: yup
11:40 -Kanzaki: and with more mods you will learn more stuff
11:40 -Kanzaki: i am not so skilled either