17:35 *firedigger is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/758382 Archie - Your Life (Original Mix) [Dreaming]]
17:37 Kathex: o
17:37 Kathex: u want m5m
17:37 Kathex: m4m
17:37 Kathex: ?
17:37 firedigger: m5m, yeah
17:37 Kathex: map?
17:38 firedigger: wanna irc?
17:38 firedigger:
p/512454217:38 Kathex: ok
17:39 firedigger: why do I see your skin in the map with "always use dafault skin"?
17:39 Kathex: hmm lemme check
17:40 Kathex: cause i ve already deleted skin of this map
17:40 firedigger: gonna REDL
17:40 firedigger: I've been looking into the map since earlier than you started to ask to BN check
17:41 Kathex: yeh its old
17:41 Kathex: update it
17:42 firedigger: k
17:42 Kathex: i removed a line from collors of sliders
17:42 firedigger: so, I've seen some really good modders in the thread
17:42 firedigger: all the easy issues have probably been fixed
17:42 firedigger: let's work purely on the rhythm&spacing
17:42 Kathex: wait
17:42 Kathex: dont worked
17:42 firedigger: m?
17:43 firedigger: it worked, when I REDled
17:43 Kathex: update the map
17:44 firedigger: it was already good previously, but it's 100% default now
17:44 Kathex: yep
17:44 firedigger: 00:18:545 (4) - I think that should be flipped horizontally
17:44 Kathex: i dont want skins for this
17:45 firedigger: seems like a minor thing, but your placements draws image of (3) (4) being parallel, when they are actually consequential sounds
17:47 firedigger: 00:20:186 (2,4) - I think these notes should be at least as far the as the slider length
17:47 firedigger: 00:22:530 (1) - this one just doesn't really fit
17:48 firedigger: 00:25:108 (2) - this looks ugly, why not make it parallel to (5) slider before?
17:49 firedigger: 00:27:686 (1,2,3,4) - weird pattern choice. the end of the sliders (red ticks) has the strong sound here
17:49 firedigger: oh, I was just talking about 00:27:803 (2) -
17:50 firedigger: 00:27:803 (2,3) - make that note->slider instead of slider->note to fix the thing
17:51 firedigger: 00:39:873 (3) - this slider kills a couple of inside beats, I am not really fan of those
17:52 firedigger: 00:52:061 (1,2) - this sound doesn't belong to the next pattern, I don't see why it's mapped in the same way
17:53 firedigger: 00:54:873 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - I recommend adding patterns with blue ticks as well to vary up the section
17:54 firedigger: 00:57:217 (4) - if you use sliders in the stream to emphasize strong beats, insert one here too
17:54 firedigger: 00:59:561 (1) - as the prev sliders are close, this spaced looks a bit weird, please make it closer to (6)
17:56 firedigger: 01:04:951 (4,5) - that just looks not cool. It's totally OK, but such sharp patterns are all over the place in your map and it looks kinda meh because of them
17:56 firedigger: 01:05:655 (6) - I don't like the beat on the slider end, I'd like to see it end before then double or smth
18:00 firedigger: 02:15:264 (1) - strong beat on slider end, not cool here
18:01 firedigger: 02:18:780 (1,2) - I don't see why you like those so much
18:01 firedigger: 02:19:131 (3) - emphasize new strong sounds with spacing
18:01 Kathex: i use strong beats on slider end intentionaly
18:02 firedigger: well, if you are sure you know what you are doing go ahead, but I just had this weird feeling "that was contra to my rhythm following", I pause to see what's the matter and I see exactly what I've seen
18:02 firedigger: I generally dislike that, but that's kinda personal
18:03 firedigger: 02:30:030 (1) - what? the sound is on blue tick!
18:04 firedigger: ah, you are probably ignoring them, but what's the purpose of diving them then?
18:04 Kathex: delete and you will hear the stream sound
18:04 Kathex: k
18:05 firedigger: yes, I hear
18:05 firedigger: but you have divided them into separate sliders
18:05 firedigger: why not divide according to the "pew-pew" sound?
18:06 Kathex: or i follow the stream
18:06 Kathex: or i follow the pad
18:06 Kathex: in this case im following the stream
18:06 firedigger: the stream is monotnoues, no?
18:06 firedigger: it's just plain 1/8 all across the moment
18:06 Kathex: yes
18:06 Kathex: but i want calm down
18:06 firedigger: why? It's the build-up
18:06 firedigger: you have kiai after
18:07 Kathex: i have a spinner before
18:07 firedigger: after
18:07 firedigger: you have build-up into stream into spinner into kiai
18:08 Kathex: exactly
18:08 firedigger: stream is just 1/8
18:08 firedigger: with reverse sliders
18:08 Kathex: yes
18:08 Kathex: to make it easy
18:08 firedigger: why not separate stream into reverse sliders according to the pew-pew?
18:08 Kathex: i had a strong part before of the stream
18:09 firedigger: 02:56:280 (1) - and monstrata was right about spacing. Such new strong beat at this should be spaced out for the good feelsMan
18:10 firedigger: like here as well 03:00:030 (3,1) -
18:10 Kathex: but spacing dont is all for this
18:10 Kathex: look the flow too
18:10 Kathex: make it harder
18:10 firedigger: are we still taling about sliders?
18:11 Kathex: spacing
18:11 Kathex: k
18:13 firedigger:
http://firedigger.s-ul.eu/xnfKzDiC18:13 firedigger: that's how I see the before spinner part
18:13 firedigger: pay attention to when sliders start
18:14 firedigger: 03:10:811 (1) - strong sound on slider, noooo
18:14 firedigger: 03:30:381 (4,5) - I think that's a bad idea
18:15 firedigger: 03:31:201 (3,4,5) - (4) on (5) looks ugly, why not uniform?
18:17 Kathex: because when i stack 4 and 5 its make the flow hard to emphasis the strong sound
18:19 firedigger: mmm
18:19 firedigger: that's pretty uncommon
18:19 Kathex: yes
18:19 firedigger: 03:31:670 (6) - why not make flow (5) into (6)
18:21 Kathex: flow emphasis and dont be so common
18:21 Kathex: =D
18:22 firedigger: well, in case you call it "flow emphasis", you are overdoing it
18:22 firedigger: 04:12:217 (4,5,6,7) - why spacing here is gradually higher than in the next slider section?
18:23 Kathex: u probably dont get thats a marathon with 7mins and i dont want a monotonous rhythm and usual mapset things c:
18:23 firedigger: well, I am certain you won't be able to escape it, as the music is 7 min same sound
18:23 firedigger: 04:25:694 (1) - and that must be "strong sliderend" emphasis technique
18:24 Kathex: thats why i want make different patterns
18:24 Kathex: not same
18:24 firedigger: variety is cool
18:24 firedigger: But there's a reason why certain patterns are prefered over others
18:24 firedigger: you are risking to make some weird stuff
18:25 Kathex: its fun to play
18:26 firedigger: well, that's subjective
18:26 firedigger: I can't judge too much cause I am low-skilled
18:27 firedigger: But none of a couple of people who i asked to try it said it was fun
18:27 firedigger: big sliders are cool though
18:27 firedigger: all the rest in the song needs the same work as the thing I've mentioned, I have nothing more really to say
18:28 firedigger: You have some weird rhythm pattern choices sometimes in my opinion