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Jinjin
/me grabs popcorn
Evening
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00:00:050 - didn't really like the intro due to it being an accuracy test with such high OD :
| The main issue here is that it doesn't have a really rhythm, which makes every hit dependent on the visual cue
| 00:00:050 (50|4) - would prefer to not have LNs like these, instead, notes so that it eases the problem above
| 00:00:739 (739|3,1084|2,1429|4,1774|6) - Connected LNs like these are better if the music allows
| 00:04:532 (4532|4,4877|6,5222|4,5567|5,5912|1) - The first comment goes for these too|
| and these 00:06:256 (6256|2,8325|1,8325|0,10050|2,11084|2,13843|0,14187|3,14532|6,14877|4,15222|1,15567|3,15912|5,16256|4) -
| LNs ending on the 1/2 rhythm is rather hard to time

00:00:050 - Felt like the slowjam is really way too slow, but that's just me, I prefer something around 0.75

00:10:222 (10222|4,10394|6) - I think this will be a problem due to the slowjam and it being a 1/2 :
| Suggesting 00:10:222 (10222|4) - to be a 1/2 long LN
| 00:10:394 (10394|6) - Change this to an LN if you want to map to the effect

00:30:050 (30050|2,30739|0,30912|3) - Pretty sure this is hard to time to, regardless of the thumb used :
| 00:30:050 (30050|2) - Shorten by 1/2 and 00:30:912 (30912|3) - move to the right by 1

00:34:532 (34532|0) - Suggest to move to 5 for simplicity

00:38:325 (38325|6) - Suggest to shorten by 1/1

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01:39:877 (99877|4,99963|5,99963|3,100050|6,100136|4,100222|5,100222|3,100222|6) - Way to focused on the right hand :
| Suggestion :

01:42:636 - Would be better if you bracketted on ( 3{24} or 5{46} ), the chord after the bracket was hard to hit too :
| Suggestion :

01:43:843 (103843|2,104015|1,104101|0,104187|1) - Will probably never be a fan of these patterns, they are awkward as hell to hit :
| Suggestion :

01:45:222 (105222|5) - Will probably be better to hit on column 4

01:50:912 (110912|2,110912|4,110998|3,111084|4) - not a fan of {35}4 brackets also :
| Suggestion : 01:50:739 (110739|5,110912|4,110998|3,111084|4) - 7 654

01:53:498 (113498|1,113670|2,113756|3,113843|2) - Same but mirrored

01:57:636 (117636|6,117636|5) - Probably easier to read if you put the LN on 7

01:58:153 (118153|5,118325|6) - Swap Columns for easier playing

02:01:429 - I heavily prefer my version without the kick snare notes, I think the section here is fine without them :
| The idea of this section is that the players do not have to jack at all at any point but notes like this 02:03:843 (123843|5,124015|5,124187|3,124360|3) - destroy the idea
| These notes are horribly awkward to play especially if they are embedded within LNs 02:07:981 (127981|2,127981|3,127981|1,128153|2) -
| In conclusion, just remove the notes

02:11:084 (131084|0,131256|6,131429|0,131601|3,131774|1,131946|0) - I heavily prefer if you just focused on the drums itself here, adding in LNs everywhere kinda dilutes the effect the alternating hand pattern is trying to emphasize

02:12:463 - Same as my previous comment, removing the single notes would be better

02:47:636 - I used the LN on the first column since I am focusing all the trills on the right hand, but if you are planning to do it for both i would suggest it to be on the center

03:16:256 - Yea, this is horrible to play, remove the single notes

03:25:567 (205567|4,205739|3,205912|2,206084|4,206256|2,206429|3) - Same idea, it dilutes the alternating hand effect

03:28:584 (208584|5,208670|3) - Suggest to move to 5 and 6 respectively

03:31:170 (211170|0,211170|6,211256|3,211256|1,211256|5,211343|6,211343|0) - didn't really like trills on the ring and middle with a note in the center, it kinda throws me off a bit
| Suggestion:

03:34:187 (214187|5,214187|4,214187|6,214274|3,214360|6,214360|4) - This is really awkward to trill, suggest to move 03:36:429 (216429|4) - to the right by 1

03:38:325 (218325|6) - Don't really like the idea of layering all the sounds together no matter the situation, there should be some point where you shouldn't layer kicks/snares for playability :
| Suggestion 1: Remove all kicks and snares specifically for the section with the LN on the 4th column
| Suggestion 2: Change all kicks and snares to LNs where ever there is an LN beside it, this is to simplify and help reading because this currently looks like a reading challenge instead of something people will enjoy playing casually
| I heavily prefer Suggestion 1 though, it prevents mashing all 3 keys excluding the thumbs on each hand
| Besides, on the next section, you didn't layer those sounds, so it sort of makes sense
| In conclusion please just remove those extra notes

04:52:463 - This feels really anticlimatic, I assume you are trying to understand what Agka is saying, i also can't really understand what Agka is proposing so:
| Suggestion : The stream kinda breaks the flow here, so (1/8):

04:53:843 - cont.
| Suggestion : Using 1/12s then 1/16s because the streams here are faster than those snaps, should be ok (specifically used 1/12 as they snap to 1 whole beat nicely):

04:55:222 - I have absolutely no idea why would you do this, they are not readable

05:20:394 - Please don't

05:41:300 - what in the absolute fuck is this, the SVs do not fit at all:
| The pattern 05:41:795 (341795|0,341817|1,341838|2,341946|2,341968|1,341989|0,342075|0,342097|1,342118|2) - is kinda suggesting mashing 123 together, because doing it legitly would be a horrible idea
| Same for 05:41:716 (341716|6,341745|5,341774|4,341881|4,341903|5,341925|6,342011|6,342032|5,342054|4,342118|6) -
| Suggestion (that's what I did for my diff ):
Topic Starter
puxtu

Evening wrote:

00:00:050 - didn't really like the intro due to it being an accuracy test with such high OD :
| The main issue here is that it doesn't have a really rhythm, which makes every hit dependent on the visual cue
I agree!
Kamikaze
Will puxtu ever stop being a shitlord
Placeholder for mod reply, I'm aware of some of this already after we talked about it ingame

EDIT:

Evening wrote:

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00:00:050 - didn't really like the intro due to it being an accuracy test with such high OD :
| The main issue here is that it doesn't have a really rhythm, which makes every hit dependent on the visual cue
| 00:00:050 (50|4) - would prefer to not have LNs like these, instead, notes so that it eases the problem above I did layer this sound as single notes near the end and idk why I did what I did here, so will change all
| 00:00:739 (739|3,1084|2,1429|4,1774|6) - Connected LNs like these are better if the music allows
| 00:04:532 (4532|4,4877|6,5222|4,5567|5,5912|1) - The first comment goes for these too|
| and these 00:06:256 (6256|2,8325|1,8325|0,10050|2,11084|2,13843|0,14187|3,14532|6,14877|4,15222|1,15567|3,15912|5,16256|4) - changed
| LNs ending on the 1/2 rhythm is rather hard to time

00:00:050 - Felt like the slowjam is really way too slow, but that's just me, I prefer something around 0.75 same tbh, it was kinda rushed. changed

00:10:222 (10222|4,10394|6) - I think this will be a problem due to the slowjam and it being a 1/2 :
| Suggesting 00:10:222 (10222|4) - to be a 1/2 long LN made it into a normal note instead
| 00:10:394 (10394|6) - Change this to an LN if you want to map to the effect done

00:30:050 (30050|2,30739|0,30912|3) - Pretty sure this is hard to time to, regardless of the thumb used :
| 00:30:050 (30050|2) - Shorten by 1/2 and 00:30:912 (30912|3) - move to the right by 1 The LN longer by 1/2 was intentional because sound stays for that 1/2 longer, but somewhere insinde I knew that this would need changes. Done all

00:34:532 (34532|0) - Suggest to move to 5 for simplicity done

00:38:325 (38325|6) - Suggest to shorten by 1/1 playability > anal correctness, done

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01:39:877 (99877|4,99963|5,99963|3,100050|6,100136|4,100222|5,100222|3,100222|6) - Way to focused on the right hand : spreaded a bit diffrently
| Suggestion :

01:42:636 - Would be better if you bracketted on ( 3{24} or 5{46} ), the chord after the bracket was hard to hit too : done
| Suggestion :

01:43:843 (103843|2,104015|1,104101|0,104187|1) - Will probably never be a fan of these patterns, they are awkward as hell to hit : fixed
| Suggestion :

01:45:222 (105222|5) - Will probably be better to hit on column 4 fixed

01:50:912 (110912|2,110912|4,110998|3,111084|4) - not a fan of {35}4 brackets also :
| Suggestion : 01:50:739 (110739|5,110912|4,110998|3,111084|4) - 7 654

01:53:498 (113498|1,113670|2,113756|3,113843|2) - Same but mirrored done

01:57:636 (117636|6,117636|5) - Probably easier to read if you put the LN on 7 done

01:58:153 (118153|5,118325|6) - Swap Columns for easier playing done

02:01:429 - I heavily prefer my version without the kick snare notes, I think the section here is fine without them :
| The idea of this section is that the players do not have to jack at all at any point but notes like this 02:03:843 (123843|5,124015|5,124187|3,124360|3) - destroy the idea
| These notes are horribly awkward to play especially if they are embedded within LNs 02:07:981 (127981|2,127981|3,127981|1,128153|2) -
| In conclusion, just remove the notes tbh I've done it just because two pepole that I respect opinon of suggested it, but I realized later how big of a mistake I made. fixed now

02:11:084 (131084|0,131256|6,131429|0,131601|3,131774|1,131946|0) - I heavily prefer if you just focused on the drums itself here, adding in LNs everywhere kinda dilutes the effect the alternating hand pattern is trying to emphasize fixed

02:12:463 - Same as my previous comment, removing the single notes would be better same as before

02:47:636 - I used the LN on the first column since I am focusing all the trills on the right hand, but if you are planning to do it for both i would suggest it to be on the center I noticed that the left hand trills were a little awkward to hit so I was planning to do something about it anyway

03:16:256 - Yea, this is horrible to play, remove the single notes welp

03:25:567 (205567|4,205739|3,205912|2,206084|4,206256|2,206429|3) - Same idea, it dilutes the alternating hand effect done

03:28:584 (208584|5,208670|3) - Suggest to move to 5 and 6 respectively oki

03:31:170 (211170|0,211170|6,211256|3,211256|1,211256|5,211343|6,211343|0) - didn't really like trills on the ring and middle with a note in the center, it kinda throws me off a bit applied (I'm running out of words to use)
| Suggestion:

03:34:187 (214187|5,214187|4,214187|6,214274|3,214360|6,214360|4) - This is really awkward to trill, suggest to move 03:36:429 (216429|4) - to the right by 1 you made a wrong copypasta but I guess I moved some shit around

03:38:325 (218325|6) - Don't really like the idea of layering all the sounds together no matter the situation, there should be some point where you shouldn't layer kicks/snares for playability :
| Suggestion 1: Remove all kicks and snares specifically for the section with the LN on the 4th column
| Suggestion 2: Change all kicks and snares to LNs where ever there is an LN beside it, this is to simplify and help reading because this currently looks like a reading challenge instead of something people will enjoy playing casually
| I heavily prefer Suggestion 1 though, it prevents mashing all 3 keys excluding the thumbs on each hand
| Besides, on the next section, you didn't layer those sounds, so it sort of makes sense
| In conclusion please just remove those extra notes there goes another suggestion

04:52:463 - This feels really anticlimatic, I assume you are trying to understand what Agka is saying, i also can't really understand what Agka is proposing so:
| Suggestion : The stream kinda breaks the flow here, so (1/8): applied both

04:53:843 - cont.
| Suggestion : Using 1/12s then 1/16s because the streams here are faster than those snaps, should be ok (specifically used 1/12 as they snap to 1 whole beat nicely):

04:55:222 - I have absolutely no idea why would you do this, they are not readable Oh well, I didn't really give much thought to it, nor I was arsed enough to check it in autoplay (sorry), I changed 3,0x to 1,5x, should be easily doable now

05:20:394 - Please don't okay mom ' w'

05:41:300 - what in the absolute fuck is this, the SVs do not fit at all: removed SV because fuck all, applied first half, and rest done like this: http://puu.sh/kFw95/6ca759892a.png to match the sounds better
| The pattern 05:41:795 (341795|0,341817|1,341838|2,341946|2,341968|1,341989|0,342075|0,342097|1,342118|2) - is kinda suggesting mashing 123 together, because doing it legitly would be a horrible idea
| Same for 05:41:716 (341716|6,341745|5,341774|4,341881|4,341903|5,341925|6,342011|6,342032|5,342054|4,342118|6) -
| Suggestion (that's what I did for my diff ):
mfw I vandalise a diff and mapper who made it mods it to fix the side effects of vandalism
Thanks a lot Zenny ' w' Update
Topic Starter
puxtu
15:00 puxtu: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3803155 lmao
15:01 [-Seiryuu-]: what did you add
15:01 puxtu: 1/12 and 1/16 burst
15:02 puxtu: i'm just following kami's snap
15:02 puxtu: if i dont, then the set is unrankable because snapping conflicts
15:02 puxtu: evening halp
15:03 [-Seiryuu-]: pux please
15:03 puxtu: its kami
15:03 puxtu: not me
15:03 [-Seiryuu-]: delete the outro
15:04 puxtu: but 5.77 is not pp rain anymore
15:04 puxtu: it's pp meteorite :^)
15:04 [-Seiryuu-]: 1/16 pux
15:04 [-Seiryuu-]: actually it's hittable ok nvm
15:05 puxtu: 4321 4321 burst
15:05 puxtu: its easy to read i guess
15:05 puxtu: idk ill just update it first
15:07 puxtu: updated
15:07 *[-Seiryuu-] is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/756516 Infected Mushroom - The Pretender [The 4K Maniac]] <osu!mania> |4K|
15:07 [-Seiryuu-]: welp
15:07 *puxtu is watching [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/756516 Infected Mushroom - The Pretender [The 4K Maniac]] <osu!mania> |4K|
15:08 puxtu: lets see
15:08 AncuL: :o
15:12 *AncuL is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/748095 orangentle / Yu_Asahina - HAELEQUINZ -the clown of 24stairs-]
15:13 puxtu: i'm the voice inside your head~
15:14 [-Seiryuu-]: yeah it's playable
15:14 [-Seiryuu-]: i just need to transit from jumptrills to vibro faster
15:14 puxtu: orly
15:15 [-Seiryuu-]: and ye i missed on a lot of easy parts too
15:15 puxtu: incoming pp meteorite
15:17 [-Seiryuu-]: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3803181
15:17 [-Seiryuu-]: yep it's playable
15:17 puxtu: w8 ill ask some koreans for testplay
15:17 puxtu: jinjin hl
15:18 MasterSonic10: that version of haelequin is very nice
15:18 *puxtu is watching [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/756515 Infected Mushroom - The Pretender [7K Pandemic obj.lZenxl vs Kamikaze]] <osu!mania> +Hidden |7K|
-[C R A Z Y]-
pp, pp everywhere! :v
Mindwaves
Please try going for approved.
This map is truly awesome.
Protastic101
hmmm
2017-04-30 21:20 puxtu: do you think this burst is accecptable? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7968676
2017-04-30 21:21 Protastic101: mushroom!
2017-04-30 21:21 puxtu: !
2017-04-30 21:21 Protastic101: Also, is the burst 1/16?
2017-04-30 21:21 puxtu: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/756516 Infected Mushroom - The Pretender [The 4K Maniac]]
2017-04-30 21:21 puxtu: 1/12
2017-04-30 21:22 Protastic101: time stamp?
2017-04-30 21:22 Protastic101: I mean, it basically creates 1/4 jacks in every single column, but then that means you could just jumptrill the thing
2017-04-30 21:23 puxtu: 2nd pink area
2017-04-30 21:23 Protastic101: oh yeah, I see it lol
2017-04-30 21:23 puxtu: lol
2017-04-30 21:24 Protastic101: Yeah, I'd say it's fine
2017-04-30 21:24 Protastic101: I jumptrilled it and didn't lose much acc
2017-04-30 21:24 Protastic101: 04:53:153 (293153|2,293196|3,293239|1,293282|0,293325|2,293368|3,293412|1,293455|0,293498|2,293541|3,293584|1,293627|0,293670|2,293713|3,293756|1,293800|0) - this antiroll though makes me want to kms
2017-04-30 21:24 Protastic101: 04:52:463 - I'd actually try to vary the 1/8 a bit more so it's not nearly as monotonous to play
2017-04-30 21:25 puxtu: owo!
2017-04-30 21:25 puxtu: xd
2017-04-30 21:25 puxtu: :3
2017-04-30 21:26 puxtu: I agree!
2017-04-30 21:26 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7968710 could do something that utilizes more cross like patterns, but idk, then it becomes a bit harder to hit, so it's up to you
2017-04-30 21:26 Protastic101: I'm personally fine with the current one, it just feels a little repetitive
2017-04-30 21:27 puxtu: are you sure this pattern is easy to read?
2017-04-30 21:28 Protastic101: No, that's the point. It's in general a little harder but more challenging in that case since you can't easily group all the notes together
2017-04-30 21:29 puxtu: xd
2017-04-30 21:29 Protastic101: 05:42:054 (342054|2,342118|2) - ok, wtf is this tho
2017-04-30 21:30 puxtu: a retarded jack
2017-04-30 21:30 Protastic101: lmao
2017-04-30 21:30 puxtu: xd
2017-04-30 21:31 Protastic101: Honestly, cause of how fast the snaps are, I would remove the double and just use a single
2017-04-30 21:31 puxtu: i agree
2017-04-30 21:32 Protastic101: 00:52:463 - to 00:52:808 - You could try putting a 1/8 burst here if you wanted since the vocals are heavily distorted
2017-04-30 21:34 puxtu: cool idea
2017-04-30 21:34 Protastic101: 01:07:636 (67636|2,67808|2,67981|2,68153|2,68325|2,68498|2) - this stack is :/ What you could do is move 01:08:325 (68325|2) - to 4 so that the stack is broken in the center and doesn't strain the index finger as much
2017-04-30 21:35 Protastic101: but then that probably ruins the intention of stacking the [13] notes
2017-04-30 21:35 Protastic101: hmm
2017-04-30 21:35 puxtu: xd lol my bad
2017-04-30 21:35 puxtu: that wasnt intended\
2017-04-30 21:35 Protastic101: why not change the jump to only be one handed, like this instead? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7968766
2017-04-30 21:35 Protastic101: oh
2017-04-30 21:36 puxtu: okidoki
2017-04-30 21:39 Protastic101: 01:39:015 - The SV sequence here doesn't average to 1x which makes it kind of difficult to read. What I would do is a value something like this: 01:39:015 - 1.3x, 01:39:101 - 1.1x, 01:39:187 - 0.9x, 01:39:274 - 0.7x
2017-04-30 21:40 puxtu: that sv wasnt my idea too xd
2017-04-30 21:40 puxtu: i'll change it
2017-04-30 21:40 Protastic101: o rip
2017-04-30 21:41 Protastic101: 02:30:050 - to 02:30:394 - A nice stutter effect with the SVs here would be 10/10
2017-04-30 21:42 puxtu: idk how to stutter effect sv im not evening xd
2017-04-30 21:42 Protastic101: 02:35:567 - to 02:35:912 - similar to the above. Maybe a stronger effect like 0.6x to 1.4x on a 1/8 snap would work
2017-04-30 21:42 Protastic101: 02:30:050 - 02:30:136 - 02:30:222 - 02:30:308 - 0.6x
2017-04-30 21:43 Protastic101: 02:30:093 - 02:30:179 - 02:30:265 - 02:30:351 - 1.4x
2017-04-30 21:43 Protastic101: 02:30:394 - 1x
2017-04-30 21:43 Protastic101: Like that
2017-04-30 21:43 Protastic101: it's just adding both values to get 2
2017-04-30 21:45 Protastic101: 02:34:187 - For here, you could also do a gradual speed up, like 02:34:187 - 0.4x, 02:34:274 - 0.8x, 02:34:360 - 1.2x, 02:34:446 - 1.6x, 02:34:532 - 1x
2017-04-30 21:46 Protastic101: 02:45:308 (165308|3,165481|3) - These notes on the outside are :thinking:
2017-04-30 21:46 puxtu: i see
2017-04-30 21:46 puxtu: lol
2017-04-30 21:46 Protastic101: Imo, they're a bit harder to hit, so what I would do is move the short LN 02:45:222 (165222|0) - to 4, and make the trill one handed, like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7968824
2017-04-30 21:46 puxtu: yea
2017-04-30 21:46 puxtu: rip
2017-04-30 21:48 Protastic101: 03:13:498 (193498|3,193670|0) - 03:14:187 (194187|2,194360|0) - 03:14:877 (194877|1,195050|3) - For these, I think it'd be cool to stack them since their pitch is the same
2017-04-30 21:48 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7968828 so you could do something like that
2017-04-30 21:48 Protastic101: with 3 note stacks or however
2017-04-30 21:50 puxtu: ok i got it
2017-04-30 21:50 Protastic101: 03:20:050 - In this measure are 1/1 long LNs, but since there are triples, you can't really use 1/1 for all 4 beats. Instead, I'd just do it on the odd downbeats like this to add a bit of note density https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7968839
2017-04-30 21:51 Protastic101: 03:36:084 (216084|3,216170|2,216256|3,216343|2,216429|3,216515|2) - that trill, mercy child, mercy T_T
2017-04-30 21:51 puxtu: haha yeah please have mercy on me xD
2017-04-30 21:51 puxtu: fixed
2017-04-30 21:53 Protastic101: streams are 10/10
2017-04-30 21:54 puxtu: thankxd
2017-04-30 21:55 puxtu: it's really technical xd
2017-04-30 21:55 Protastic101: yeah
2017-04-30 21:55 Protastic101: 05:17:291 - SV here is hard to predict :/
2017-04-30 21:55 puxtu: dx
2017-04-30 21:56 Protastic101: 05:18:900 - would rather these SVs go from slowjam to fast so that it's a bit easier to see the notes, but ah well
2017-04-30 21:56 puxtu: alright i will remove that sv then
2017-04-30 21:56 Protastic101: what no, you don't have to
2017-04-30 21:56 Protastic101: hold on, Im sure I can average it to 1, give me a sec
2017-04-30 21:58 puxtu: XD
2017-04-30 21:59 Protastic101: oh my god, there's numbers involved lol
2017-04-30 21:59 Protastic101: 05:18:900 - You could try increasing this by 0.15x every time or idk, Im honestly too lazy to figure it out now lol
2017-04-30 21:59 Protastic101: just keep it as is, it's ok
2017-04-30 22:00 puxtu: alright then, removed
2017-04-30 22:00 puxtu: xD
2017-04-30 22:00 puxtu: XDXdxd
2017-04-30 22:00 Protastic101: 05:24:187 - You could do the same thing here I suggested back at 03:20:050 - with the two 1/1 LNs
2017-04-30 22:01 Protastic101: 05:46:601 (346601|0,346946|1,347291|2) - Might consider making these 1/2 LNs for that synth sound thingy in the harmoney
2017-04-30 22:01 Protastic101: harmony*
2017-04-30 22:01 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7968899 so like that
2017-04-30 22:01 puxtu: yeah i need to remap this outro
2017-04-30 22:02 Protastic101: 05:57:636 (357636|1,357981|3,358325|1) - same as above with 1/2 LNs if you wanted
2017-04-30 22:03 puxtu: sure
2017-04-30 22:03 Protastic101: anyways, that's like all I've got for the 4k diff
2017-04-30 22:04 puxtu: omg thanks a lot prot
2017-04-30 22:04 puxtu: i'll rank your map someday
2017-04-30 22:04 Protastic101: I'd say the 4k is ready for rank but idk about the 7k diff and I havent checked hitsounds yet
2017-04-30 22:05 Protastic101: want me to post the log?
2017-04-30 22:06 puxtu: yes please!
2017-04-30 22:06 puxtu: x)
Topic Starter
puxtu
damn I can't update the map cuz my submission cap is full (I should stop submitting shitmap) will try to do it later thx a lot prot
Kamikaze
whoa this is old
Topic Starter
puxtu
Old but gold

*map is now updated and good to go
My Angel Koishi
hello ezpp
Lokovodo
this is a masterpiece and ez pp please rank
DDMythical


edit i have been told these are entirely ok

i do not think they are. as much as it under-represents the song I would heavily consider starting an inverse LN 1/4th section or something in place of the 522bpm rolls -- the 1/12ths (and by extent the 696bpm rolls -- the 1/16ths) just to avoid this nps spike.

i'm not citing pp or anything because star rating is an incredibly borked concept i just think there might be something you can do in place of it to avoid putting 696 rollllls in a 174 light handstream chart.
Topic Starter
puxtu
#blameKami2015
DDMythical
puxtu schmuxtu i love you
glenda
kudosu farming 101 (unsolicited discord mod w)
isy - Today at 9:20 PM
@puxtu played the pretender again
i have a few suggestions
05:48:325 (348325|3) - this could be more interesting than just an ln
make it a cool notestream pattern
Jup - Today at 9:21 PM
Make it into inverse
isy - Today at 9:22 PM
also i feel like the map would benefit from some sv stuff if youre not gonna make it fun and difficult
and i also feel like a storyboard would be good to really emphasize the breaks you take when its just vocals, cause as-is it feels kind of awkward since theres no strong sound it ends on
anyways thats my lil mod or whatever u wanna call it 'w'
oh also
patterns like this: https://pippi.is-pretty.sexy/b874fd.png

should be like this: https://pippi.is-pretty.sexy/f2fa71.png

because the 2nd one is actually timed to the hihats correctly
https://pippi.is-pretty.sexy/631df2.png also this needs to be

https://pippi.is-pretty.sexy/aceaa1.png this

because theres no hihat on the red tick
good luck with the map though, id really like to see it get ranked c:
Kamikaze

puxtu wrote:

#blameKami2015

yes blame me for making a dumb diff spike on a diff that I have nothing to do with br0
Topic Starter
puxtu
You're the one who changed the burst in 7K diff br0
Kamikaze
diffrence between 7k and 4k ????????
Topic Starter
puxtu
snaps conflict = unrankable
Kamikaze
i am going to destroy your ass if you keep using this type of shitty excuses for your dumb shit I swear to god
Topic Starter
puxtu
smh
Arzenvald
you can ungrave this if you want, and remap some parts perhaps idk i like the map with current design
but wow fam 7K PP fest in 2k18 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
no nomination post before? i'll check this map later
Kamikaze
puxtu is dead and I killed him
Topic Starter
puxtu
I'm immortal, bitch
Arzenvald
basically 172 > 348 > 522 > 696 bpm
i don't really argue about where it should be snapped and where's the correct snaps is, i just can't feel the gradually increasing density in the burst section in both diff when i testplay it, in short, it doesn't just feels right

4K :
04:53:843 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10686976 (1/8 roll)
04:54:187 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10686977 (1/8 stair)
04:54:532 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10686982 (1/12 roll)
04:54:877 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10686984 (1/12 stair)

05:41:429 - can use 1/12 roll, then 05:41:774 - 1/12 stairs


7K
04:53:843 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10686996
04:54:187 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10686997
04:54:532 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10686998
04:54:877 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10687001

04:56:429 (296429|2) - the sv transition here could use same transition as 04:55:222 (295222|5,295567|3,295912|3) - , it looks out of place
Topic Starter
puxtu

Arzenvald wrote:

05:41:429 - can use 1/12 roll, then 05:41:774 - 1/12 stairs
nah, i think current pattern is fine
--
did everything else
Evening
actually nevermind i don't really want to work on this anymore, you can ask kami or just completely take over from here
Kamikaze
if anything i will deal with it, not today tho
Arzenvald
one eternity later
Kamikaze
I hAvE a ToUrNaMeNt oKkKkKkkK???!?!!!?!?
Kamikaze

Arzenvald wrote:

basically 172 > 348 > 522 > 696 bpm
i don't really argue about where it should be snapped and where's the correct snaps is, i just can't feel the gradually increasing density in the burst section in both diff when i testplay it, in short, it doesn't just feels right it's not intended to be increasing in density, it's intended to get gradually faster, if I made it actually increase in density i would make it way overkill, fuck that



7K
04:53:843 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10686996
04:54:187 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10686997
04:54:532 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10686998
04:54:877 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10687001 the transitions in all of the screenshots are awkward and random, I did a more organized and rule based transition for the 1/12 part of the stream (doubles marked intentionally), also inverted the roll direction in 1/8s (thanks _uj btw):

only changed the direction of 1/16 because making it anything but a straight roll is overkill imo, it's fucking 696 bpm

04:56:429 (296429|2) - the sv transition here could use same transition as 04:55:222 (295222|5,295567|3,295912|3) - , it looks out of place no it doesn't it's an intermission in the song, an implicit break with 1/1 beats and then a transition to 1/4 and back to the regular rhythm, making it literally the same SV is out of place and unpredictable, this SV makes the 1/4 more predictable. No change.
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