gratz /runs

came here to check snapping cuz i was bored, then i found out theres highly possible dq reasons in this map


yea all these aRE HIGHLY POSSIBLE DQ REASONS OK (except for the KICKS on sliderends, those are fin e... i gues. The snares on sliderends arent tho esp when there was no kick on teh sliderhead of the slider)

i posted evrytime it happens for ur convenience or w/e srry if u diidnt lik dat


great design + map lik always tho

Thanks for the check VINXIS! As I'm about to go to bed here is a quick reply

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Hm... how do I move it to pending lol

Inyuschan wrote:

Hm... how do I move it to pending lol

you can't, ask a GMT or QAT to move it after bubble or if you going to qualify just do it.

Asphyxia wrote:

nössöjä
käyttäisin vähän vähemmän spacingia tässäkin
hypyissä

xdddddddddddddd

what is this language

toybot wrote:

Asphyxia wrote:

nössöjä
käyttäisin vähän vähemmän spacingia tässäkin
hypyissä

xdddddddddddddd

what is this language

Finnish, but certain characters are probably not supported on some devices

Approved.

Congratz!!!

Baraatje123 wrote:

Finnish, but certain characters are probably not supported on some devices

lol i knew that, i was just noting this beautiful unicode

äss

rebubbles had to take place here since vinxis modded it though

Aka's right but well , it doesn't matter I think now..

Gratz~

I think it doesn't matter, since the bubble was popped by mapper after my mod and the other one... ><

Hitsounds are inaudible.

Kyubey wrote:

Hitsounds are inaudible.

This. And what's up with all these overmapped streams?
Not to mention skipping rather important beats and placing sliders on silent beats making them end on loud beats.

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Unfortunately, the Quality Assurance Team has decided to disqualify this beatmap. The following is a list of reasons and examples for the disqualification. We do not outline every issue in detail, so make sure to take the idea behind each reason and apply it to the entire beatmap as issues might be found in more than the spots mentioned below. If you have any questions, please reply to this post and we will do our best to clarify any misunderstandings.


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Quality Assurance Team wrote:

Excursion

Inaudible hitsounds
The hitsound volume you use are really hard to hear in almost parts of the song.
Examples: 00:41:056 (5,6,7) - 00:45:084 (3,4,5,6) - 01:23:056 (4,5,6,7,8) - 01:31:541 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 01:52:884 (2,3,4,5

Made the whole map 15% louder (not including the first 30seconds) and some parts 20% louder, mostly the wubwub sections.

nice map

Time to bring this back
Everything seems fine, everything is audible to me so it is

Rebubbled

#2

ProfessionalBox wrote:

13:47 ProfessionalBox: I swear to god if someone dares to tell me that the intro is inaudible
13:47 ProfessionalBox: I will personally slap them

I wanna slap too :3/* <--FIST OF JUSTICE

that intro is inaudible xd

Fantastic map, and a great song. Hope this gets through .

cant heer begin part lel i funni man > ,<

Squigly wrote:

cant heer begin part lel i funni man > ,<

same tbh

Since hitsounds issue was fixed I don't have anything more to complain about.

Recongratz!

Cool stuff, but there's some things that need to be covered

Offset seems to be something like 247. It's too late right now, it can be easily heard in the hitsounding.

01:03:856 (7,1,2) - This new combo-ing seems to have gotten a little mixed up. I think you should go through the set and make sure all the combos are where they should be.
04:28:541 - New combo grouping is best done on white ticks. For this kind of stream section, I recommend this kind of grouping for maximum readability. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3607545

05:36:598 (1) - Really short repeats like this are known to cause a very frustrating game bug! If the player doesn't click on the slider before the first repeat completes, it's an instant combo-break. So an object that you could normally hit a little earlier and a little later to complete, you must hit earlier than normal.
In this case, it's 22ms, which is really strict timing. The value you can expect to not mess many people up is over 40 ms. 1/8 is 43ms, so it'd be a good idea to use 1/8 for any 1/12 or 1/16 repeat cases.


So for the fast slider portions, they could use some restructuring at parts.
02:05:056 - The secret to a successful neuronecia kinda thing is to make sure the strongest beats in the song are almost never skipped. Slider starts and circles are important for most or all of the strong beats.

For example, 02:05:056 - to 02:18:256 - only misses three potentially strong beats. They are at 02:07:284 - and 02:15:513 - and 02:18:256 - .
The three that are missed are the second strongest beats (the strongest beats are never skipped and are always clicks!).
So, overall, this section feels pretty good, but could be better.

Now the next section runs into bigger problems. I'll call the strongest beat #1, and second strongest beat #2.

02:27:856 - #2 is partially missed here due to it being a sliderend. It feels weird to be clicking on the weaker beat, and ending on the stronger beat.
02:28:713 - #1 missed due to sliderend. #1 should always be sliderstarts or circles!
02:31:970 - #2 sliderend
02:33:084 - #2 missed
02:39:684 - #1 missed, this is a major issue. These are the most important beats in the music.
02:39:941 - #2 sliderend
02:44:056 - #2 missed
02:45:170 - #1 missed, major
02:45:427 - #2 sliderend
05:13:798 - #2 missed
05:24:770 - #2 missed

The reason these are so important is, the player wants to be clicking on the strong beats. If they pass over strong beats on a slider, it can disorient them.
If all the examples I pointed out are changed into sliderstarts or circles, you'll notice an immediate difference in how the map feels.


So that's my thoughts on this. I think with a couple re-works in the fast slider parts, some fixed repeats, and a little more work on the new combos, you'll end up with something really kick-ass.

muh snares

Wow it survived.

Nice
Gratz!

muh snares

No reply = keep!

Charles445 wrote:

Cool stuff, but there's some things that need to be covered Ok lets hear what you have to say!

Offset seems to be something like 247. It's too late right now, it can be easily heard in the hitsounding. good point

01:03:856 (7,1,2) - This new combo-ing seems to have gotten a little mixed up. I think you should go through the set and make sure all the combos are where they should be. ok here I used the NC this way to make 01:03:941 (1,2,3,4) - appear as a curve, quite ridiculous way to approach comboing but hey aesthetics!
04:28:541 - New combo grouping is best done on white ticks. For this kind of stream section, I recommend this kind of grouping for maximum readability. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3607545 I can't open the picture anymore as the link has expired FeelsBadMan

05:36:598 (1) - Really short repeats like this are known to cause a very frustrating game bug! If the player doesn't click on the slider before the first repeat completes, it's an instant combo-break. So an object that you could normally hit a little earlier and a little later to complete, you must hit earlier than normal.
In this case, it's 22ms, which is really strict timing. The value you can expect to not mess many people up is over 40 ms. 1/8 is 43ms, so it'd be a good idea to use 1/8 for any 1/12 or 1/16 repeat cases. I was 2 years ahead of the rest with these. Truly innovative.


So for the fast slider portions, they could use some restructuring at parts.
02:05:056 - The secret to a successful neuronecia kinda thing is to make sure the strongest beats in the song are almost never skipped. Slider starts and circles are important for most or all of the strong beats.

For example, 02:05:056 - to 02:18:256 - only misses three potentially strong beats. They are at 02:07:284 - and 02:15:513 - and 02:18:256 - .
The three that are missed are the second strongest beats (the strongest beats are never skipped and are always clicks!).
So, overall, this section feels pretty good, but could be better. Overall I was just following the wub sounds to their fullest, even if that meant skipping over "strong beats". Thats the way I still approach wub sliders :p

Now the next section runs into bigger problems. I'll call the strongest beat #1, and second strongest beat #2.

02:27:856 - #2 is partially missed here due to it being a sliderend. It feels weird to be clicking on the weaker beat, and ending on the stronger beat. agree
02:28:713 - #1 missed due to sliderend. #1 should always be sliderstarts or circles! agree
02:31:970 - #2 sliderend yeah this is awkward
02:33:084 - #2 missed Following the wub sound here
02:39:684 - #1 missed, this is a major issue. These are the most important beats in the music. This isn't nearly as bad as the ones you mentioned earlier but I can see where you're coming from
02:39:941 - #2 sliderend kickslider is imo the best way to map this so the current way is good
02:44:056 - #2 missed Following wub
02:45:170 - #1 missed, major agree
02:45:427 - #2 sliderend kickslider best here
05:13:798 - #2 missed I'd like to argue that you can follow this one with either mapping the kick or the way I did here to pick up the wub sound better
05:24:770 - #2 missed ^

The reason these are so important is, the player wants to be clicking on the strong beats. If they pass over strong beats on a slider, it can disorient them.
If all the examples I pointed out are changed into sliderstarts or circles, you'll notice an immediate difference in how the map feels. Agreed on many of these but not all. There were a few really bad ones that could be improved so I'll keep that in mind!


So that's my thoughts on this. I think with a couple re-works in the fast slider parts, some fixed repeats, and a little more work on the new combos, you'll end up with something really kick-ass.

Thanks for your mod Charles!

ps. Sorry for late reply, I had some stuff to do