Going to apply these later this weekend, thanks guys!
UnderminE wrote:
Hello, I love Marina and The Diamonds.
Lanturn wrote:
02:23:765 (3) - 3/4 slider like the music says instead of this repeat 1/4? Don't you hear the buildup similiar to 01:37:265 (3,4) - ? o.o
Bonsai wrote:
I found almost nothing major, so basically everything is just suggestions ^^
[Average]
- 00:53:765 (3) and 01:01:765 (3) - Since the vocals, which are the reasons you mapped these sliders I guess, are on the tails it doesn't feel like you're mapping the vocals but just that background rhythm which is left out most of the time. I'd either let the previous slider reverse or extend it to 2/1 to enable the vocal to be clickable. Same in the other Kiais Well that's to keep it simple as the 2/4 rhythm is more intuitive for ewer players to play.
- 02:30:515 (2,3) and 02:38:515 (2,3) - There's too much background beat left out imo, maybe add some 1/2-sliders, especially since there's also a vocal change of pitch at 02:31:765 / 02:39:765 I wanted to keep it rather simple though :/
[Tough][Twin Robotic]
- 00:16:515 (2) and 00:24:515 (2) - The vocals at the tails of these two are at least as important as their heads, so I'd change the objects there a bit. They feel especially left out since the following notes are (almost) exactly in the extended line of the sliderpaths I didn't want to start right with a circle stack as the first objects as it would a) be much harder to hit and b) feel a bit empty. The second one is there for consistency.
- 01:06:265 to 01:38:265 - It feels really awkward to hitsound the drum-finishes and normal-hitnormals when you leave them out so often, especially parts like 01:07:015 (3) where only the first of that pair of finishes is mapped, and on top of that you sometimes put the whistles on the beats where finishes would be. Just my opinion, but I would either don't put those hitsounds there at all or map most of them (although then there would be almost no contrast to the next section I guess), this just feels very random Well they are still in the music and to me it would feel totally empty without them but I also don't want to cluster the whole timeline for such a difficulty thus there was the struggle to either map them or not and I decided for doing so.
- 02:31:015 (6,1) - I feel like there's too much of the background-rhythm left out, maybe just add a circle in-between Same as in Average
- 02:39:015 (6,7,1) - since there's a vocal change of putch left out at 02:39:765 and 02:40:015 (7) really deserves to be held too I'd suggest something like this I consider changing this if more people mention it.
- 00:24:515 (2,3,4) - imo the sliderends are too much, just putting three circles there fits better, gives the same feeling as 00:22:265 (1,2,3) - the piano is being left out a lot anyways, so it doesn't matter here The slidertails are following the piano and the slight hold of their vocals :/
- 00:26:015 (1) - maybe let this slider end at 00:26:515 and place another circle afterwards, or at least do some slider-shape with a red control point at 00:26:515 ?
- 00:28:765 (2) - the 'V' of 'love' is pretty audible at the red tic but I guess you don't wanna destroy that pattern / change the first two sliders to 1/2? : \ It's actually lovED
- 02:24:265 (1) - The beat of that slidertail has previously always been left out, so I'd do it here too for consistency, feels better anyways imo Uhm the section is getting more intense though and a 1/1 gap would feel really empty like REALLY empty imo. Might consider it though.
MkGuh wrote:
General
- You might want turn on epilepsy warning maybe?? Uhm, does the SB even have flashes? o.o
MondoKuma wrote:
00:31:765 (2) - Add a finish Hitsound? Why? It's just a piano sound o:
00:31:765 (2) - Move this further away from the slider? (not too far) It's an antijump to emphasize the gap between these two notes!
01:41:765 (4) - Same as above ;3 (Sorry if I get repetitive) It's for the emphasis
01:49:765 (4) - Again I feel it should be the same as above ^
Average:
00:31:765 (2) - Add a finish hit sound? Same as Robotic
Auxent wrote:
Average:
- 01:12:265 (1,3) - I'm not actually fan of the stacks at the easiest difficulties. It's just a minor thing that bugs me a little. You can try for ex. a pattern like this: 01:18:265 (1,2) - or 01:22:265 (1,2) - . I think this should actually be simpler to hit than spacing in this case and it's something between Normal and Easy so it shouldn't be too big of a problem
- 01:27:015 (3,1) - How about redesigning a slider like this? Changed it slightly to be parallel with the following
- 01:31:015 (4,1) - What about removing this overlap by moving the 01:32:015 (1) - ? It doesn't look nice imo. What's wrong with it? o:
Tough:
- 01:27:015 (3,4) - Same thing as in "Average" (Slider) Kept it here to keep the emphasis of the sound.
Twin Robotic:
- It would be great to see the names of mappers in this difficulty since it's a collab. Well it's how Desp and I name our difficulties and most people should know that already.
Bonsai wrote:
I found almost nothing major, so basically everything is just suggestions ^^
[Twin Robotic]
- 00:35:015 (2) and 00:43:015 (2) - leaving out the 'claps' on these two white tics seems pretty random since you didn't do that anywhere else it's done for variation.. overall i don't want too much density in this calm part so i intentionally leave out some ticks
- 01:09:265 (3,4) and 01:11:266 (4,5) - On the tail of the second slider is a vocal whereas there is none on the tail of the first slider, but since they're both mapped the same it loses its relevance - I'd replace one of them with one/two circles that's really picky. not sure about this, but two sliders work just fine for me especially since i am using circles for more distinct vocals (the main focus is on sliders in this map due to it being a Hard diff)
- 02:28:265 (1,2,3,4,5) - Since there are no lyrics here to emphasize, I would emphasize the two finishes more, feels kinda boring otherwise. Actually there are a lot of places where it's like that in the Kiai, it doesn't really feel like you're really playing that rhythm, but it's hitsounded so it should be important, right I am following the echo of the vocal here. I think it works very well as it is what makes this kiai different from the others.
UnderminE wrote:
Hello, I love Marina and The Diamonds.
And uh, I have only one suggestion for Hard difficulty. How about something like this for this part 02:38:515 - (and the previous vocal part as wel)
Nahhh, while that would work, I really prefer following the vocals in my maps :3
The rest was either not in my parts or hitsounding, which I'll leave to Mao. Thank you for the mods, I feel bad about not changing anything, however I got my reasoning for these patterns. I tried out the suggestions but they simply didn't work for me or I prefer my current version.MondoKuma wrote:
I love this song too much and it pains me to see it not ranked so i'm modding it just to get it a little bit closer
TR:I'm not a fan of hit sound modding but i'll try to do that as well
(Im bad at hits sound modding so if you don't feel the sound don't work you're probably right)
00:36:765 (2,3,4) - A little bigger jump? Like the ones at 00:52:765 (2,3) - No, I don't want circles with high spacing here because the section is so calm
01:06:265 (1,2,3) - Same here to make a pattern uhh... that thing is a pattern
01:23:765 (4) - This slider should end at 01:23:144 - It is extended for a reason - in order to stress the vocals here. If you listen closely to the music, this is exactly what the vocals represent
01:25:765 (5) - This should end at 01:25:806 - (1 tick shorter) ^
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Baraatje123 wrote:
Hi
[General]
Why did you use soooo many sliderwhistles? They kill my ears Vocal holds.
[Storyboard]
Consider adding the collab names in the SB for TR difficulty
Consider making the heart appearing a hitsoundtrigger. So it only appears when the object is pressed. That way, when you miss on the end, you also don't get the heart
Edit: Ermm, what is the point in white.jpg if you use it for the color in the BG. Why does it display five nights at freddy's?
The SB stuff is up to Bakari but Desp and I never do SB names if we both collab.
[Average]
01:18:291 (1,2) - Not completely symmetrical ✓
01:30:291 (1,2,3) - As the piano is just 1/1, the polarity here feels really weird. try the same rhythm as you did in 01:12:291 (4,5) - I'm following vocals here ._.
[Tough]
00:54:041 - Add a circle to follow the "A" in the vocals I was considering this but I decided against it as I didn#t want to increase the density any further.
00:58:041 (4,6) - Consider blanketing those (properly) ✓
01:02:291 (4,5,6) - Doesn't look nice. Try this Why doesn't this look nice? Looks alright to me.
01:06:541 (2,3) - Not aligned properly ✓
02:33:291 (3,4) - The tail of (4) is closer to (3) then the head of (4) is. I hope you remember Magma Dan ✓
[Twin Robotic]
00:25:541 (4,1) - Not aligned properly ✓
00:28:791 (2) - Why not Ctrl HJG and move to around 388:40? Seems to flow better I didn't want a wavy flow but a more "hilly" one here as she repeats it rather abruptly.
00:35:791 (3) - Silence end? ✓ For all the others as well
02:51:291 (3,4) - A bit too curved. Reduve the curve (Tryo to make (4) blanket with (1), then copy it over) Slider's can't be too curved /w\
Call me
Thanks for the mods guys. Also changed the mp3 once again! /w\Stjpa wrote:
Gotta try ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Dein BG ist nicht 1366x768Average
• 00:28:291 (1,2,3) - Denke das hier wäre eine bessere Lösung, da man das Blanket von (1) und (3) nach wie vor behält und dazu noch den Flow von (2) -> (3) verbessert. Würde am Flow um ehrlich zu sein nicht viel ändern und das ganze ergibt ein halbes Sechseck.
• 00:32:291 (1,2) - Mich triggerts ja etwas, dass eine Silbe auf dem Slidertail von (1) liegt. Evtl könnte man das Pattern ✓in das hier ändern?
• 00:54:291 (4,5) - Könnte man auch ohne Probleme blanketen. Sieht einfach so viel besser aus. >_> Wieso sieht das besser aus? Das ist ein gleichschenkliges Dreieck aus Tail, Head und Circle o:
• 01:14:041 (6,1) - Bin ich blöd oder sind die nicht ganz gestackt? ✓
• 01:15:291 (2,3) - Fix blanket, ziemlich visible imo. ✓
• 01:35:041 (2,3,4) - Das ganze Pattern hier ist von den Transitions her sehr questionable imo. Wenigstens n Blanket wäre cool, auch wenns zu 99% deine Absicht war. Uhm, ist doch eigentlich recht simpel zu treffen o:
• 02:52:291 (1) - Vielleicht etwas rotaten und überhalb von (5) platzieren? Triangles sind super! Möglicherweise kannst du dann auch die Pattern danach etwas ändern, weil es so aussieht als hättest du da ziemlich Platzmangel gehabt. :^) Der gerade verlauf von 1 ist der gespiegelte Verlauf von dem repeat slider vorher, weshalb ne Art Spiegelsymmetrie entsteht.Tough
• 00:16:541 (2) - 1/2 Slider + Circle wäre meiner Meinung nach passender weil die Silbe auf deinem Slidertail dann besser emphasized wird. Das verbindet die Silben des "okay"
• 00:33:041 (2,4,5) - Eventuell ein besseres Triangle aus dem Slidertail und den 2 Circles? ✓
• 01:30:291 (1,2) - STRG + G covered die Vocals viel besser. Nice ✓
• 02:00:791 (5,6) - Blanket? Symmetrie.
• 02:35:791 (8,3) - Stack? Kann aber auch gut sein, dass mein Client manchmal Stacks nicht richtig anzeigen möchte. >_> Das sieht man ingame nichtmal ._.
• 02:38:291 (4,5) - Würde ich aus diesem Zweck eher etwas weiter unten platzieren, müsstest dann nur eventuell den Slider danach etwas rotaten / anpassen, damit der noch reinpasst. ✓
Zur letzten Diff finde ich nicht mal was, was man eventuell verbessern könnte. Rip me. Kann deine Maps wie gesagt nicht wirklich gut modden.
Yeah, Wafu. I thought that A shouldn't be capitalized but then Mao linked this.Mao wrote:
Sure? Her website lists it capitalized o:
http://marinaandthediamonds.com/thefamilyjewels.php
Oh w/e. You know, Spotify is retarded - don't get me wrong, it just prompts you to register and stuff before you can see song titles, unless you get a direct link like this. Otherwise when Googling, it would direct me to this. That makes it very uncomfortable and after checking 2 different (and official) pages, I thought there won't be difference.Yuii- wrote:
Yeah, Wafu. I thought that A shouldn't be capitalized but then Mao linked this.Mao wrote:
Sure? Her website lists it capitalized o:
http://marinaandthediamonds.com/thefamilyjewels.php
Just choose what fits to you, either "A" that is used on official Spotify, or "a" that is used on official shop and iTunes, depends on you.Mao wrote:
So what to do with the title? Anyways, I have applied everything but muting the slidertails as they are a) already down to 5% and b) they emphasize the -ed of "loved". Waiting for Desp to apply something in his part now.