Timorisu wrote:
B1rd wrote:
The poll does not indicate that people want no <1 minute beatmaps, it simply indicated that it's not their favourite length.
This this this. So much this. I would've voted 2-3 minutes on the poll, does that mean I would want songs under 2 minutes to be unrankable? Certainly not! Using a poll which determined a user's favourite length to set a rule of minimum drain time is a faulty practice.
That's pretty much it - there's no reason to inhibit these 10% of your playerbase whose
favourite map length is sub-1 minute from participating on the rankings and pp system just because it's among the least highest percentages;
let's put this into context - currently, or now formerly (?), we have/had the chance to rank 30s+ maps, which, while making up for only a small part of the amount of maps submitted, are appreciated by a part of the playerbase. Not the majority of it, but a certain fraction of it nonetheless.
I don't see why we would take action to actively prevent this from happening in the future, specifically seeing how these sub-60s maps were not spamranked to begin with, at least for all I can recall during the past 4.5 years. All this is doing is deprive this fraction, although small, of your playerbase of their favourite length and type of map, for no reason other than "you are less than 10% of what our poll tested, so you shouldn't get a leaderboard".
While I that this is most likely not the way the staff and QAT thought about this matter, this is simply the only effect it has: it limits mapping diversity.
Yes, sub-60s maps aren't necessarily a big piece to behold, but what does that matter? Are they dragging down the overall ranking standards by any chance? I surely don't think so, seeing how it's actually much easier to gain mods for them, even by more experienced people that have since moved on from playing osu! fulltime, which allows for them to gather a relatively high density of mods for the limited amount of objects they offer, hence even having
higher chance of working out properly, so where is the issue?
If this is actually meant to improve the overall ranking quality, then frankly there are other ways to do so (i.e. spread informed modding to combat the endless amounts of "add NC"/"this feels weird idk?" free SP "mods" that have been flying around forever) - if this is meant to make the ranked and qualified sections exclusive for what will cater to at least 90% of the playerbase, then I can't say I agree with this.
Ranking is supposed to speak for a baseline of
quality, rather than mass-compatibility; this is not a game that works off of selling song packs, there is no incentive to police anything on the basis that it won't be played/downloaded a whole ton.
Let the players decide what they want to play, and as long as it makes sense as part of the category of a
rhythm game, and is properly executed, then what does the rest matter? It's not like these songs were bundled with the game anyway, so all of the "labeling them as
official osu! beatmaps" is not even actually happening, is it? Because if you really were concerned about putting a "stamp of approval" on such "unfitting"/"undeserving" maps, then we should seriously revisit the approval process and modding in general, rather than putting up arbitrary rules like this one.
Plus, anything above 6 minutes should be unrankable aswell then, since it's less than 10% of the vote each. *cough*Conclusively said, all this new rule does is to
actively inhibit a part of
your playerbase from seeing maps they enjoy ranked and competing on them, for no reason other than "well theres more people that dont love these maps as much??" - it's not productive in any way, really. Let's try to work on actual mapping quality, rather than the amount of seconds that it lasts. That'd be a nice change of pace.