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iYiyo

1,107 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

iYiyo 2017-04-18T11:55:21+00:00

Thanks Monstrata! And sorry for the inconvenients.

Mafumafu

Beatmap Nominator

3,361 posts

Joined August 2013

Mafumafu 2017-04-21T02:48:06+00:00

From my M4M queue: my map for M4M: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/582957

[General]
Keep wide-screen setting consistent.
[Easy]
Some imbalance of rhythm could be found, which deserves to be addressed.
00:53:062 (1,2) - These two sliders are not matching up with the rhythms of the song tbh. Some strong beats are skipped, like 00:53:803. Additionally their shapes are not satisfying too.
01:01:951 (1,2) - Same here, it feels pretty imbalanced compared to later sections where 1/1 are pretty easy to be figured out.
01:07:877 (1,2,1) - Same here
01:13:803 (1,2,1) - ^ and 01:19:729 (1,2) -
01:24:173 (4) - It's not a good idea to place such a strong beat on the end of a slider.

[Normal]
00:05:655 (4) - Maybe you need to change the rhythm to https://puu.sh/vr7IY/c4943298d1.png Because the vocal at 00:06:396 could not be placed on a slider-end.
01:24:544 (4) - For me this shape is not appropriate in Normal.

[Kanto's Insane]
00:07:136 (1,1,1) - Spacing should be kept consistent.

[Bijuu]
00:09:729 (3,4) - I think jump should not be placed here for 00:09:914 (4) - is quite weak.

call me back

Hazu-

3,881 posts

Joined July 2014

Hazu- 2017-04-21T03:52:52+00:00

xd

iYiyo

1,107 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

iYiyo 2017-04-21T14:49:55+00:00

Regraz wrote:
From my M4M queue: my map for M4M: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/582957

[General]
Keep wide-screen setting consistent. fixed
[Easy]
Some imbalance of rhythm could be found, which deserves to be addressed.
00:53:062 (1,2) - These two sliders are not matching up with the rhythms of the song tbh. Some strong beats are skipped, like 00:53:803. Additionally their shapes are not satisfying too. Gonna keep the sliders on kiai since I feel they're more consistent. Changed these though
01:01:951 (1,2) - Same here, it feels pretty imbalanced compared to later sections where 1/1 are pretty easy to be figured out.
01:07:877 (1,2,1) - Same here
01:13:803 (1,2,1) - ^ and 01:19:729 (1,2) -
01:24:173 (4) - It's not a good idea to place such a strong beat on the end of a slider. Why not? D: I think it fits pretty good to end it with a sliderend.

About the long sliders on the kiai, I don't really have much to say. It was one of my first Easys and therefore I'd like to keep these shapes more than anything. Also I realized that having long sliders on Easy diffs are also a way of adding difficulty since new players will have to hold for more time and that's hard for them (Thats why I think it fits good for a kiai. It sacrifices a few beats, but add a bit more difficulty and offers more things rather than just 1/1 and 1/2). Also the kiai have a lot of these sliders which is consistent throughout the map, so it shouldn't be a surprise for newbies. I did changed the ones that are not on the kiai though~

[Normal]
00:05:655 (4) - Maybe you need to change the rhythm to https://puu.sh/vr7IY/c4943298d1.png Because the vocal at 00:06:396 could not be placed on a slider-end. fixed
01:24:544 (4) - For me this shape is not appropriate in Normal. changed so that now follow better the drums with the red anchors

[Bijuu]
00:09:729 (3,4) - I think jump should not be placed here for 00:09:914 (4) - is quite weak. It's not as strong as 00:09:359 (1,3,1) - but it gives a good drum effect I'd like to keep

call me back

Thanks Regraz!!

Last edited by iYiyo 2017-04-23T22:35:48+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

KantoKun

1,114 posts

Joined December 2011

KantoKun 2017-04-22T04:28:19+00:00

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Mafumafu

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Mafumafu 2017-04-26T14:57:24+00:00

Hello!
I think I've leave this map to others for the time being, since core issues that I mentioned have not been addressed yet.
Good luck!

Irohas

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Joined May 2014

Irohas 2017-04-26T15:55:00+00:00

rip

Hazu-

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Joined July 2014

Hazu- 2017-04-26T23:36:34+00:00

looool xd

Mafumafu

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Mafumafu 2017-04-27T02:41:28+00:00

As requested. I will list the issues needs to be settled before pushing this map forward later here.

Mafumafu

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Mafumafu 2017-05-10T15:16:53+00:00

NO KUDOSU

[Bijuu]
00:09:729 (3,4) - I think jump should not be placed here for 00:09:914 (4) - is quite weak, drum effect is not a valid reason for keeping that.

[Normal]
00:37:877 (3) - This super strong cymbal was placed on slider-end, which is not a good idea. Strong beats should be applied to circles and slider-heads.
00:49:359 (2,1) - Blanket.
My thoughts of the long sliders in Kiai remain the same.

[Kanto's Insane]
00:07:136 (1,1,1) - Spacing should be kept consistent. I guess they need to be the same to show people they are 1/4.

iYiyo

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iYiyo 2017-05-12T01:41:52+00:00

Regraz wrote:
NO KUDOSU

[Bijuu]
00:09:729 (3,4) - I think jump should not be placed here for 00:09:914 (4) - is quite weak, drum effect is not a valid reason for keeping that. moved (4)

also changed 00:02:692 (1,2,3) - this into circles so it follows better the vocals, I forgot to change on previous update xd

[Normal] I think you mean Easy? xD
00:37:877 (3) - This super strong cymbal was placed on slider-end, which is not a good idea. Strong beats should be applied to circles and slider-heads. fixed
00:49:359 (2,1) - Blanket. don't really want to blanket it, would overlap with 00:52:692 (4) -
My thoughts of the long sliders in Kiai remain the same.

[Kanto's Insane]
00:07:136 (1,1,1) - Spacing should be kept consistent. I guess they need to be the same to show people they are 1/4. Fixed for him. It also keep a bit more DS for 00:08:248 (1) - since he wanted to give more emphasis (volume increase)

About the sliders on the Easy Kiai... I really don't see why you think they're an issue D: I mean, they're consistent through the kiai now, have good shapes (imo), and follow the music in a "Easy" way. And not because it's the Kiai section, it should be "harder" in terms of clicking circles after 1/2sliders after circles. Actually, according to what Lasse said on his mod, sliders tend to be much harder for new players because they need to hold, and I kinda agreed with him, that's why I deleted lot of sliders on non-kiai, and kept these slider on kiai.

Also, I changed what you mentioned about 00:53:062 (1,2,3) - the 2 sliders on previous mod, because it didn't fit the current pattern/rhythm I choose for this section, and I agreed with that.

So yeah, I think the long sliders give more variety for an Easy diff and not necessary are "easier" for the kiai section.. Therefore I really would like to keep them.

Thanks Regraz for the recheck! updated~

600th post o:

iYiyo

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iYiyo 2017-05-13T15:29:20+00:00

@To GDers: So Regraz said that my explanation on Easy sliders make sense, but he isn't interested on pushing this map forward, which is fine, and I don't really want to bother Monstrata again for another dumb bubble repair... Uhh idk what to do now tbh xd

Edit: So I realized that I really can improve my top diff + I'm not really satisfied with the current mapping since I think I can do much better. So I'm taking Regraz' and Lasse's mods to improve the diff as much as I can before going for rank again.

Hazu-

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Joined July 2014

Hazu- 2017-05-17T01:29:44+00:00

jelou

Bijuu2

Desactiva el Widescreen Support
00:07:136 (1,2,3) - En general este combo me gusta mucho mas en la anterior Bijuu, ya que el spacing que había entre los sliders me parecía mucho mas representativo en cuanto a los sonidos (son sonidos muy fuertes y que destacan mucho mas en comparación al resto, por lo que creo que el spacing debería ser mayor en vez de mantenerlo constante).
00:17:599 - Timing section inútil (supongo que olvidaste bajarle el volumen o alguna wea xd)
00:23:525 - ^
00:24:544 (1) - Mmmm... no estoy muy seguro sobre este NC, no le encuentro mucho sentido (obviamente está el aumento del volumen de la guitarra, pero pienso que el NC quedaría mucho mejor en 00:24:729 (2) - para enfatizar el sonido del platillo).
00:36:025 (1,2,3,4) - Otra parte mas donde no estoy conforme con el spacing, no entiendo porque repentinamente baja siendo que prácticamente siguen todos los combos el mismo sonido (so, en 00:47:877 (1,2,3,4) - es exactamente lo mismo pero este spacing es mucho mas representativo).
00:48:988 (2) - Missing finish?
01:00:470 - Cambiaría esta timing section a Soft Default, como que el Whistle del Custom 1 no va con el sonido del combo. xd
01:07:136 (1,2,3,4) - Otro combo con spacing super raro, aquí la guitarra se escucha mucho mas que en las otras partes pero el spacing es mucho menor.
01:11:952 (7,3) - Naziiiii xd
01:24:729 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - Me gustaría que es spacing sea mas grande, es el fin de la canción y los sonidos se escuchan mucho mas.

remap

iYiyo

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iYiyo 2017-05-17T04:05:09+00:00

Hazu- wrote:
jelou holi
Bijuu2
Desactiva el Widescreen Support
00:07:136 (1,2,3) - En general este combo me gusta mucho mas en la anterior Bijuu, ya que el spacing que había entre los sliders me parecía mucho mas representativo en cuanto a los sonidos (son sonidos muy fuertes y que destacan mucho mas en comparación al resto, por lo que creo que el spacing debería ser mayor en vez de mantenerlo constante).
00:17:599 - Timing section inútil (supongo que olvidaste bajarle el volumen o alguna wea xd)
00:23:525 - ^
00:24:544 (1) - Mmmm... no estoy muy seguro sobre este NC, no le encuentro mucho sentido (obviamente está el aumento del volumen de la guitarra, pero pienso que el NC quedaría mucho mejor en 00:24:729 (2) - para enfatizar el sonido del platillo).
00:36:025 (1,2,3,4) - Otra parte mas donde no estoy conforme con el spacing, no entiendo porque repentinamente baja siendo que prácticamente siguen todos los combos el mismo sonido (so, en 00:47:877 (1,2,3,4) - es exactamente lo mismo pero este spacing es mucho mas representativo).
00:48:988 (2) - Missing finish? No creo que vaya un finish ahí. Clap está bien imo
01:00:470 - Cambiaría esta timing section a Soft Default, como que el Whistle del Custom 1 no va con el sonido del combo. xd
01:07:136 (1,2,3,4) - Otro combo con spacing super raro, aquí la guitarra se escucha mucho mas que en las otras partes pero el spacing es mucho menor.
01:11:952 (7,3) - Naziiiii xd
01:24:729 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - Me gustaría que es spacing sea mas grande, es el fin de la canción y los sonidos se escuchan mucho mas.
remap oke :c

Básicamente apliqué todo menos lo del finish xd Vale por el mod <3

Natsu

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Natsu 2017-06-04T13:43:14+00:00

Básicamente tengo la misma opinión que regratz con la easy, esos sliders no siguen la canción e ignoran muchas notas importantes.

En tu top diff, los ritmos estan bastante raros por ejemplo:

00:01:211 (1,2,3,4,5) - no se si estas siguiendo las vocales o los instrumentos, 4 deslizadores serian mejor.

00:08:618 (1,2,3,4) - el espaciado es muy inconsistente con la música, debería de tener menos espacio, con esto totalmente matas los siguientes saltos.

00:14:359 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - igual que estas siguiendo?, la melodía va bien hasta 6, 7 no pertenece a la melodía, 6 y 7 deberían ser un deslizador en 1/2

00:15:840 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - igual

00:17:877 (3,4,5,6) - igual el ritmo es incoherente, o bien los mapeas todos como deslizadores o como círculos, porque objetivamente la melodía es la misma

00:19:359 (2,3,4,5) - igual si seguís la canción correctamente, entonces todos deberían ser círculos.

00:20:285 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - y aquí igual se repite lo de 00:14:359 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - , etc

00:35:099 (6) - porque tiene el mismo espacio que los anteriores? no tiene mucho sentido si tenes en cuenta el sonido que tiene.

00:37:507 (1,2,3,4) - esto no debería estar dividido así, 2 3 4 son muy diferentes de 1, lo mejor que podrías hacer es 00:37:321 (4,1) - convertir esto en un deslizador para tener una mejor transición de instrumentos y poner el NC en 2

00:41:396 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - igual que estas siguiendo? mezclar ritmos no es bueno, 6 no sigue las vocales, en todo caso mapealo como cola de deslizador

00:43:248 (4,5,6,7) - igual que estas siguiendo? si fuera vos hiciera 00:43:248 (4,5) - un deslizador de repetición para hacer una buena transición de instrumentos.

00:46:210 (4,5,6,7) - igual

01:00:470 (1,2,3,4) - el sonido es igual, porque 4 es un salto?

01:04:173 (4,5,6,7) - igual que instrumento seguís? la mayoría pensarían que las vocales, pero esa nota sin vocales arruina todo

La verdad en el estado que esta el mapa, yo no lo calificaría, pero vos sos el mapper y deberías de conservar lo que te guste

iYiyo

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iYiyo 2017-06-04T18:18:56+00:00

Natsu wrote:
Básicamente tengo la misma opinión que regratz con la easy, esos sliders no siguen la canción e ignoran muchas notas importantes. Voy a hacer algo con estos sliders entonces lol

En tu top diff, los ritmos estan bastante raros por ejemplo:

00:01:211 (1,2,3,4,5) - no se si estas siguiendo las vocales o los instrumentos, 4 deslizadores serian mejor.

00:08:618 (1,2,3,4) - el espaciado es muy inconsistente con la música, debería de tener menos espacio, con esto totalmente matas los siguientes saltos.

00:14:359 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - igual que estas siguiendo?, la melodía va bien hasta 6, 7 no pertenece a la melodía, 6 y 7 deberían ser un deslizador en 1/2

00:15:840 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - igual

00:17:877 (3,4,5,6) - igual el ritmo es incoherente, o bien los mapeas todos como deslizadores o como círculos, porque objetivamente la melodía es la misma Agree, hice de 00:18:618 (6) - 2 circulos. Aunque dejé 00:17:877 (3) - como slider ya que encuentro que sigue correctamente la guitarra.

00:19:359 (2,3,4,5) - igual si seguís la canción correctamente, entonces todos deberían ser círculos.

00:20:285 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - y aquí igual se repite lo de 00:14:359 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - , etc

00:35:099 (6) - porque tiene el mismo espacio que los anteriores? no tiene mucho sentido si tenes en cuenta el sonido que tiene.

00:37:507 (1,2,3,4) - esto no debería estar dividido así, 2 3 4 son muy diferentes de 1, lo mejor que podrías hacer es 00:37:321 (4,1) - convertir esto en un deslizador para tener una mejor transición de instrumentos y poner el NC en 2 ye, eso si no los hice un slider ya que encuentro que la cola de este debería ser cliqueable, así como está con un círculo. Cambié el NC de lugar si, además de mover un poco las notas para que represente mejor el NC

00:41:396 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - igual que estas siguiendo? mezclar ritmos no es bueno, 6 no sigue las vocales, en todo caso mapealo como cola de deslizador

00:43:248 (4,5,6,7) - igual que estas siguiendo? si fuera vos hiciera 00:43:248 (4,5) - un deslizador de repetición para hacer una buena transición de instrumentos.

00:46:210 (4,5,6,7) - igual 00:46:581 (5,6,7) - Como estos son la parte previa a los jumps, encuentro que sería mejor dejarlo distinto a antes

01:00:470 (1,2,3,4) - el sonido es igual, porque 4 es un salto?

01:04:173 (4,5,6,7) - igual que instrumento seguís? la mayoría pensarían que las vocales, pero esa nota sin vocales arruina todo blame kagetsu

La verdad en el estado que esta el mapa, yo no lo calificaría, pero vos sos el mapper y deberías de conservar lo que te guste

Todo lo que no comenté está arreglado de una manera u otra. También arreglé la Easy, no quiero tener más problemas con eso, y la verdad así como está, está bastante controversial xd

Muchas gracias Natsu!

Gero

4,438 posts

Joined March 2012

Gero 2017-06-24T10:02:38+00:00

Bueno como prometí aquí estoy.

General

Nada que mencionar aquí, excepto a preguntar sobre la metadata. ¿Tienes alguna prueba de ella, o fue revisada por alguien?

Easy

00:08:618 (2) - Probablemente tu intención sobre el ritmo es ignorar completamente la vocal en esta parte, pero me parece un poco extraño el hecho de que en el slider anterior siguieras de alguna manera la vocal. Por lo tanto ¿Que opinas sobre cambiar este slider a algo como 00:07:136 (1) - hiciste acá,
añadiendo un circulo en 00:10:099 - para enfatizar el sonido fuerte en la instrumental; Ademas de que estoy ayuda a que sea clickeable y no se ignore un beat importante.
00:14:359 (1) - 00:14:359 (1) - De alguna manera el timing se vuelve inestable en esta parte de la canción por lo tanto genera que el final de este slider se sienta fuera de ritmo. Así que creo que la mejor opción es considerar re-hacer esta parte un poco, creo que algo como esto funcionaria mucho mejor.
01:07:877 - ¿Finish?

Normal

01:17:322 (2,3) - El ritmo no esta mal, al contrario me gusta que sigas la vocal un poco mas para que el jugador sienta un poco de variación en cuestión de ritmos. Pero por alguna razón el circulo siguiente en 1/2 no se siente demasiado intuitivo y de alguna manera forzado. ¿Que opinas sobre esto en su lugar? siento que este ritmo es mas amigable para los jugadores no experimentados.

Hazu's Hard

00:36:581 (1,2) - ¿Hay alguna razón en particular por la cual este sea el unico patron que usa un apilado manual?

Collab Insane

00:11:025 - I think ignoring this beat is a bit strange, since you seem to be following the drums sounds in this specific part, so it wouldn't hurt at all to add a note here with a clap to flow in a better way this 00:10: 655 (2,3,1) - in general.
00:25:099 (1,2,1) - Please don't do that, it's basically the same spacing between 1/2, and 1/4 which is a really wrong issue, because it could be confusing, due that before this 00:25:655 (1) - appears you have a 00:25:099 (1) - 1/2 note right here. I'd like to move this object closer to the tail of the previous slider or maybe stack it under that one.
00:40:285 (4,5) - 00:43:248 (4,5) - Same as above (01:01:025 (3,4) - Just as you did it here).

Kanto's Insane

My only complain about this difficulty is regarding the rhythm you've used in some parts were the 1/4 slider + circle doesn't feels natural or justified to use that kind of technique.
00:17:322 (1,2) - For example, as we can hear the guiter sound is constant so using a slider to emphatize this sound it's really cool, but the problem is that there's nothing 00:17:599 - here, so sudenly you have to click the next circle which has a normal sound. It feels a bit strange if you ask me; So, how about to extend this one 1/2 more to have a 1/1 from red to red. You should try it cause it's really way better in my opinion.
00:23:248 (1,2) - 00:24:729 (1,2) - Same as above.
00:25:840 (2,1) - This is awful in a so many ways, consider to short it for a regular 1/2 slider to have a better feeling while playing this part. Or Silence the tail of the slider and move them closer to each other, up to you.
01:07:877 (1,2) - 1/2.
01:18:248 (1,2) - In this one, you could easily silence the tail.

Bijuu

00:03:988 (7,1) - En lo personal cuando estaba jugando el mapa en esta parte se detiene el flujo debido al stack y considerando que tu estilo de mapping va con 1/2 de manera fluida, yo consideraría mover este circulo a otro sitio.
00:04:173 (1,2,3) - ¿Por cual razón haz decidido usar un spacing tan inconsistente entre estos 3 objetos? La canción no cambia, no hay nada que enfatizar para hacer algo como esto en lo absoluto.
00:29:359 (1,2,3) - Aunque el espaciamiento este correcto, el flujo recto entre esto y el flujo circulas que haz hecho anteriormente se siente de alguna manera forzado, por lo tanto me gustaría mover un poco 00:28:988 (5) - este circulo, (Yo sugeriria a X:320 Y:240).
00:32:692 (2,3,4) - Orz no se ve muy bien hablando estéticamente, ademas de que el espaciamiento tampoco lo ayuda en absoluto; Debido a que como lo he mencionado ya, tu usas una cantidad bastante elevada de 1/2 entonces acortar la distancia, y volverla a incrementar en cuestión de 2 segundos no se siente del todo bien.
00:54:914 (3,4,5,6) - ¿Porque no seguir el mismo tipo de patrón, así como hiciste con 00:54:544 (1,2,3,4) - estos? Ya se que cambia la vocal y se vuelve un poco mas fuerte pero estéticamente se ve no del todo bien y podría mejorarse considerablemente en mi opinión.
01:03:433 (1,2,3) - Lo mismo sobre el espaciamiento, creo que no cuesta nada ser consistente y al mismo tiempo brindar la variedad en cuestion de jumps.
Algo así estaría perfecto.
01:24:729 (4,5,6) - Encuentro innecesario el apilado manual, si no me equivoco este ha sido el único sitio en el cual lo haz usado; Por lo tanto no seria malo quitarlo y dejarlo que sea automático.

Llámame cuando hayas hecho los cambios necesarios.

Hazu-

3,881 posts

Joined July 2014

Hazu- 2017-06-24T15:57:33+00:00

Fixed, thx~

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-Sh1n1-

3,402 posts

Joined September 2012

-Sh1n1- 2017-06-24T16:41:16+00:00

:O It's happening, go go bro~

iYiyo

1,107 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

iYiyo 2017-06-24T21:13:25+00:00

Gero wrote:
Bueno como prometí aquí estoy. o3o

General

Nada que mencionar aquí, excepto a preguntar sobre la metadata. ¿Tienes alguna prueba de ella, o fue revisada por alguien? yep, por kwan acá p/4425960
Easy

00:08:618 (2) - Probablemente tu intención sobre el ritmo es ignorar completamente la vocal en esta parte, pero me parece un poco extraño el hecho de que en el slider anterior siguieras de alguna manera la vocal. Por lo tanto ¿Que opinas sobre cambiar este slider a algo como 00:07:136 (1) - hiciste acá,
añadiendo un circulo en 00:10:099 - para enfatizar el sonido fuerte en la instrumental; Ademas de que estoy ayuda a que sea clickeable y no se ignore un beat importante. Tienes razón, eso si al hacer un slider como el anterior, también se está omitiendo 00:09:359 - este beat que también es super prominente. Por lo mismo hice una variación de eso a ver qué tal.
00:14:359 (1) - 00:14:359 (1) - De alguna manera el timing se vuelve inestable en esta parte de la canción por lo tanto genera que el final de este slider se sienta fuera de ritmo. Así que creo que la mejor opción es considerar re-hacer esta parte un poco, creo que algo como esto funcionaria mucho mejor. Arreglado~
01:07:877 - ¿Finish? Finish
Normal

01:17:322 (2,3) - El ritmo no esta mal, al contrario me gusta que sigas la vocal un poco mas para que el jugador sienta un poco de variación en cuestión de ritmos. Pero por alguna razón el circulo siguiente en 1/2 no se siente demasiado intuitivo y de alguna manera forzado. ¿Que opinas sobre esto en su lugar? siento que este ritmo es mas amigable para los jugadores no experimentados. Se ve bien, cambiado
Collab Insane

00:11:025 - I think ignoring this beat is a bit strange, since you seem to be following the drums sounds in this specific part, so it wouldn't hurt at all to add a note here with a clap to flow in a better way this 00:10: 655 (2,3,1) - in general.
00:25:099 (1,2,1) - Please don't do that, it's basically the same spacing between 1/2, and 1/4 which is a really wrong issue, because it could be confusing, due that before this 00:25:655 (1) - appears you have a 00:25:099 (1) - 1/2 note right here. I'd like to move this object closer to the tail of the previous slider or maybe stack it under that one.
00:40:285 (4,5) - 00:43:248 (4,5) - Same as above (01:01:025 (3,4) - Just as you did it here).
Fixed everything instead of mugi since they'are things he'd agree imo + he also saves some time :p

Bijuu

00:03:988 (7,1) - En lo personal cuando estaba jugando el mapa en esta parte se detiene el flujo debido al stack y considerando que tu estilo de mapping va con 1/2 de manera fluida, yo consideraría mover este circulo a otro sitio.
00:04:173 (1,2,3) - ¿Por cual razón haz decidido usar un spacing tan inconsistente entre estos 3 objetos? La canción no cambia, no hay nada que enfatizar para hacer algo como esto en lo absoluto.
00:29:359 (1,2,3) - Aunque el espaciamiento este correcto, el flujo recto entre esto y el flujo circulas que haz hecho anteriormente se siente de alguna manera forzado, por lo tanto me gustaría mover un poco 00:28:988 (5) - este circulo, (Yo sugeriria a X:320 Y:240).
00:32:692 (2,3,4) - Orz no se ve muy bien hablando estéticamente, ademas de que el espaciamiento tampoco lo ayuda en absoluto; Debido a que como lo he mencionado ya, tu usas una cantidad bastante elevada de 1/2 entonces acortar la distancia, y volverla a incrementar en cuestión de 2 segundos no se siente del todo bien.
00:54:914 (3,4,5,6) - ¿Porque no seguir el mismo tipo de patrón, así como hiciste con 00:54:544 (1,2,3,4) - estos? Ya se que cambia la vocal y se vuelve un poco mas fuerte pero estéticamente se ve no del todo bien y podría mejorarse considerablemente en mi opinión.
01:03:433 (1,2,3) - Lo mismo sobre el espaciamiento, creo que no cuesta nada ser consistente y al mismo tiempo brindar la variedad en cuestion de jumps.
Algo así estaría perfecto. la verdad no le encuentro taaaanta diferencia, aún así traté de dejarlo así como dijiste D:
01:24:729 (4,5,6) - Encuentro innecesario el apilado manual, si no me equivoco este ha sido el único sitio en el cual lo haz usado; Por lo tanto no seria malo quitarlo y dejarlo que sea automático.
Arreglé todo~

Llámame cuando hayas hecho los cambios necesarios.

Gracias Gero!! Excelente mod : ok_hand :

Updated all diffs except Kanto's. Waiting for his reponse~

KantoKun

1,114 posts

Joined December 2011

KantoKun 2017-06-28T17:21:33+00:00

sry for late ;-;
fix all issue , expect this 00:24:729 (1,2) - cause i want to emphasize the beat on 00:25:099 (2) -

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421,205,79359,2,0,P|375:199|325:189,1,85,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
231,75,79729,6,0,P|238:127|250:246,1,170,6|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
331,353,80285,2,0,P|335:301|343:263,1,85,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
410,121,80655,1,2,0:0:0:0:
426,322,80840,1,8,0:0:0:0:
251,215,81025,1,0,0:0:0:0:
490,58,81210,6,0,P|498:100|501:147,1,85,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
351,272,81581,1,8,0:0:0:0:
254,145,81766,2,0,P|327:105|409:120,1,170,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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242,62,82692,6,0,P|249:102|255:155,1,85,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
228,339,83062,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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242,62,83618,1,2,0:0:0:0:
319,181,83803,2,0,P|268:189|233:194,1,85,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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116,236,85099,1,8,0:3:0:0:
250,102,85285,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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iYiyo

1,107 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

iYiyo 2017-06-29T02:50:53+00:00

KantoKun wrote:
sry for late ;-;

Don't worry dude!

Alright, all diffs updated.

Gero

4,438 posts

Joined March 2012

Gero 2017-07-30T03:47:36+00:00

~ Bubbled ~

iYiyo

1,107 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

iYiyo 2017-07-30T04:24:45+00:00

Es esto de verdad!? O.o

Gracias Gero!! <3

Irohas

1,353 posts

Joined May 2014

Irohas 2017-07-30T10:51:06+00:00

o
finally

Pachiru

osu! Alumni

2,957 posts

Joined June 2013

Pachiru 2017-07-31T17:31:04+00:00

Congratz Yiyo !

meii18

3,577 posts

Joined October 2013

meii18 2017-08-03T11:51:49+00:00

still remember this one when i modded it congratz on bubble!

iYiyo

1,107 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

iYiyo 2017-08-06T07:19:26+00:00

omg since i'm not that active on osu lately, didn't see your replys D:

Thank you guys so much! This map means a lot for me.

Natsu

8,074 posts

Joined September 2012

Natsu 2017-08-13T16:53:33+00:00

ANiME

Gero

4,438 posts

Joined March 2012

Gero 2017-08-13T16:56:21+00:00

A🅱IME.

Atsuro

1,290 posts

Joined January 2013

Atsuro 2017-08-13T19:29:45+00:00

Anime

-Sh1n1-

3,402 posts

Joined September 2012

-Sh1n1- 2017-08-13T20:03:24+00:00

finally Gratz bro

Cris-

Beatmap Nominator

551 posts

Joined March 2015

Cris- 2017-08-13T20:13:32+00:00

Congrats Yiyo :3

iYiyo

1,107 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

iYiyo 2017-08-13T22:10:02+00:00

OMG Wasn't expecting this tbh. I feel like this is my very first ranked map... and it's qualified by Natsu... again D:

Thank you so much Natsu, Gero and everyone!!

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ErunamoJAZZ

osu! Alumni

2,693 posts

Joined August 2012

ErunamoJAZZ 2017-08-14T01:07:43+00:00

cool!

Congrats yiyo n.n

Irohas

1,353 posts

Joined May 2014

Irohas 2017-08-14T10:18:07+00:00