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Hitomi Sato - Shisen! Karate Ou [Osu|Taiko]
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Topic Starter
o congrats!
gratz 
EvilElvis wrote:
o congrats!
old school style spread eh lepi? 
:^) taco dem...
Heya! There are still a few issues with this mapset that I'd like to see fixed before moving forward.
It's a cool map, but it probably needs a few more sets of eyes before it's ready to go. Best of luck!
[Easy]
00:30:031 (1) - This should be extended to the next white tick to match all the other difficulties.
[Normal]
Please disable widescreen storyboard support to be consistent with the other diffs!
[Hard]
You should probably change the uninherited point's volume to be 35%. I'm not completely sure this is necessary, but I've seen maps disqualified over similar things, so best to fix this up while we're here.
[Elvis' Insane]
Cool difficulty settings bro.
The new combo placements are a bit weird and inconsistent in places - 00:16:372 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) comes to mind - so I'd recommend re-evaluating them.
00:07:441 (2,3,4,1) - I had trouble reading this because of the stacked note timing changing between (2,3) and (4,1). I checked some leaderboard replays just to make sure and other people tend to get 100 and 50 here a lot too, so I think it's worth at least spreading out the two overlapping sliders somewhat.
00:24:567 (1,2,1,2,1) - This pattern is total nonsense, I'm sorry. It plays horrendously, and not only that, the movements required to complete it flow terribly into the next set of notes at the other side of the screen. Please remap it.
[Extra]
Wow this map is kinda nuts!! Pretty cool, but cruel as well (especially those diamonds, ouch)
00:06:915 (8,9,1) - This flows and plays horribly due to the sudden, sharp angle change and heavy jump.
00:16:162 (4,5,1,2) - Same as above.
00:27:300 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Is the halved SV really necessary here? It's not terrible, but it seems strange and out of place.
[Irre's Extra]
Irre plz, are you high. This map is kinda hard to mod because it's so ridiculous for cs7
Same deal with the stacked timing point volume as in Hard.
00:19:735 (2) - Should probably add an NC here for consistency.
00:25:198 (1,1) - The jump between these flows absolutely terribly due to the extra repeat on that first slider. (Also the bit right after that is kinda lame as well, but I suppose that could be part of the challenge.)
00:30:031 (1) - This should be extended to the next white tick to match all the other difficulties.
[Normal]
Please disable widescreen storyboard support to be consistent with the other diffs!
[Hard]
You should probably change the uninherited point's volume to be 35%. I'm not completely sure this is necessary, but I've seen maps disqualified over similar things, so best to fix this up while we're here.
[Elvis' Insane]
Cool difficulty settings bro.
The new combo placements are a bit weird and inconsistent in places - 00:16:372 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) comes to mind - so I'd recommend re-evaluating them.
00:07:441 (2,3,4,1) - I had trouble reading this because of the stacked note timing changing between (2,3) and (4,1). I checked some leaderboard replays just to make sure and other people tend to get 100 and 50 here a lot too, so I think it's worth at least spreading out the two overlapping sliders somewhat.
00:24:567 (1,2,1,2,1) - This pattern is total nonsense, I'm sorry. It plays horrendously, and not only that, the movements required to complete it flow terribly into the next set of notes at the other side of the screen. Please remap it.
[Extra]
Wow this map is kinda nuts!! Pretty cool, but cruel as well (especially those diamonds, ouch)
00:06:915 (8,9,1) - This flows and plays horribly due to the sudden, sharp angle change and heavy jump.
00:16:162 (4,5,1,2) - Same as above.
00:27:300 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Is the halved SV really necessary here? It's not terrible, but it seems strange and out of place.
[Irre's Extra]
Irre plz, are you high. This map is kinda hard to mod because it's so ridiculous for cs7
Same deal with the stacked timing point volume as in Hard.
00:19:735 (2) - Should probably add an NC here for consistency.
00:25:198 (1,1) - The jump between these flows absolutely terribly due to the extra repeat on that first slider. (Also the bit right after that is kinda lame as well, but I suppose that could be part of the challenge.)
It's a cool map, but it probably needs a few more sets of eyes before it's ready to go. Best of luck!
I'd also like if a taiko QAT could clarify if lepi's wide spread is acceptable for today's standards (Not very often does Oni have long streams while Muzu still has simple triplets).
oh god baraatje why did you get this to rank already LOL
Topic Starter
Okay!MillhioreF wrote:
Heya! There are still a few issues with this mapset that I'd like to see fixed before moving forward.[Easy]
00:30:031 (1) - This should be extended to the next white tick to match all the other difficulties. How did this even change O.o
[Normal]
Please disable widescreen storyboard support to be consistent with the other diffs! As there is no storyboard, there is no need for it to bee consistent. I'll change it though
[Hard]
You should probably change the uninherited point's volume to be 35%. I'm not completely sure this is necessary, but I've seen maps disqualified over similar things, so best to fix this up while we're here.
[Elvis' Insane]
Cool difficulty settings bro.
The new combo placements are a bit weird and inconsistent in places - 00:16:372 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) comes to mind - so I'd recommend re-evaluating them.
00:07:441 (2,3,4,1) - I had trouble reading this because of the stacked note timing changing between (2,3) and (4,1). I checked some leaderboard replays just to make sure and other people tend to get 100 and 50 here a lot too, so I think it's worth at least spreading out the two overlapping sliders somewhat.
00:24:567 (1,2,1,2,1) - This pattern is total nonsense, I'm sorry. It plays horrendously, and not only that, the movements required to complete it flow terribly into the next set of notes at the other side of the screen. Please remap it.
[Extra]
Wow this map is kinda nuts!! Pretty cool, but cruel as well (especially those diamonds, ouch)
00:06:915 (8,9,1) - This flows and plays horribly due to the sudden, sharp angle change and heavy jump.
00:16:162 (4,5,1,2) - Same as above.
00:27:300 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Is the halved SV really necessary here? It's not terrible, but it seems strange and out of place. Yes, I agree with that it's strange, but it also fot the slow down of the map, and gives much more emphasis to the final part of the map before it ends
[Irre's Extra]
Irre plz, are you high. This map is kinda hard to mod because it's so ridiculous for cs7
Same deal with the stacked timing point volume as in Hard.
00:19:735 (2) - Should probably add an NC here for consistency.
00:25:198 (1,1) - The jump between these flows absolutely terribly due to the extra repeat on that first slider. (Also the bit right after that is kinda lame as well, but I suppose that could be part of the challenge.)
It's a cool map, but it probably needs a few more sets of eyes before it's ready to go. Best of luck!
I'll get some more mods, then I'll call back the BN
Thanks for checking!
No reply means fixed (not sure if the flow on Extra is still broken though, I thought what I made it into now fits better, can you maybe check that quickly?)
Still a bit iffy about the flow for those patterns in Extra, but it does fit the music and general theme of the map a lot more now (and it's not really like you obey flow the whole time either anyway) so I approve 
I agree with Ozzy. While I admire lepidopodus like no one else, I'm very unsure about the spread as, like Ozzy stated, the Oni has too complicated patterns while Muzu only sticks to simple triplets.
edit: I'll have no trouble doing a quick IRC mod with lepi to insert proper breaks in Oni and give it a Taiko icon afterwards
edit: I'll have no trouble doing a quick IRC mod with lepi to insert proper breaks in Oni and give it a Taiko icon afterwards
Topic Starter
I got confirmation it's fine
As there are only 2 diffs, there is not really a spread
I'll give full PM later (or PM Ozzy)
As there are only 2 diffs, there is not really a spread
I'll give full PM later (or PM Ozzy)
Oh okay, then I can make a completely retarded Oni in a hybrid mapset because it is not really a spread?
Not talking about lepi's diffs obviously. This is just exaggerating so you see my point. There MUST be a reasonable gap between the 2 diffs (and even more considering Oni is the cutting diff on a spread, ANY spread, no matter the number of difficulties).
Not talking about lepi's diffs obviously. This is just exaggerating so you see my point. There MUST be a reasonable gap between the 2 diffs (and even more considering Oni is the cutting diff on a spread, ANY spread, no matter the number of difficulties).
I was summoned here. Next words will contain my opinion.
The current gap from Muzukashii and Oni is big. Although both difficulties have a good gap in the note density side; pattern complexity gap is the troublesome aspect, Oni uses complex 1/4 patterns, and even 1/4+1/6 clusters, while Muzukashii sticks to mostly monocolour blocks.
Both difficulties are really nice so I wouldn't like to suggest to make any changes, what I'd suggest is to rename the current Oni to Inner Oni, and map a new Oni, having the freedom to use a similar note density as current Oni, but with simpler (and preferably shorter) patterns. But if you want to tone down Oni instead, you are free to do so.
Also, given how HP works in osu!taiko, I'd suggest to raise HP to 7; with current HP, both difficulties it is somehow easy to pass.
And as a last comment, I'm really happy to see lepidopodus still mapping, your maps are really enjoyable.
The current gap from Muzukashii and Oni is big. Although both difficulties have a good gap in the note density side; pattern complexity gap is the troublesome aspect, Oni uses complex 1/4 patterns, and even 1/4+1/6 clusters, while Muzukashii sticks to mostly monocolour blocks.
Both difficulties are really nice so I wouldn't like to suggest to make any changes, what I'd suggest is to rename the current Oni to Inner Oni, and map a new Oni, having the freedom to use a similar note density as current Oni, but with simpler (and preferably shorter) patterns. But if you want to tone down Oni instead, you are free to do so.
Also, given how HP works in osu!taiko, I'd suggest to raise HP to 7; with current HP, both difficulties it is somehow easy to pass.
And as a last comment, I'm really happy to see lepidopodus still mapping, your maps are really enjoyable.
Topic Starter
Thanks Dake!
This is what lolcubes told me
This is what lolcubes told me
Two difficulties do not have a spread (even though in general rules we normaly should refer to lowest converted diffs for this purpose lol). Hence, from rule side, there is no need to make an additional difficulty as long as both, project leader and taiko mapper think, there is none needed.
stuff got changed sorry for being slow
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Title:Shisen! Karate Ou
TitleUnicode:視線！からておう
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Sorry for the delay, will get to it asap
Topic Starter
Updated Elvis diff (when my internet approves of it ofc)
Some fixes:
diff names were reverted to 'lepidon!' style.
slight change on the end of the diffs.
Oni added, previous Oni is now Inner Oni.
Inner Oni: http://puu.sh/l4mcQ/f8604693d5.osu
Oni: http://puu.sh/l4mhT/ac3aa0e902.osu
Muzukashii: http://puu.sh/l4mgG/fa003c6e8c.osu
Sorry for the long waiting.
diff names were reverted to 'lepidon!' style.
slight change on the end of the diffs.
Oni added, previous Oni is now Inner Oni.
Inner Oni: http://puu.sh/l4mcQ/f8604693d5.osu
Oni: http://puu.sh/l4mhT/ac3aa0e902.osu
Muzukashii: http://puu.sh/l4mgG/fa003c6e8c.osu
Sorry for the long waiting.
Topic Starter
Updated
Don't worry about the wait (Irre still needs to fix his diff <_<)
Don't worry about the wait (Irre still needs to fix his diff <_<)
As requested!
Call me back!
Legend
Default = Normal mods
Blue = Strongly recommended
Red = Unrankable issue
Pink = Will be discussed if not changed
Blue = Strongly recommended
Red = Unrankable issue
Pink = Will be discussed if not changed
General
- Irre's Extra has lower star rating than Elvis' Insane, consider changing name. I suggest Elvis' Insane > Elvis' Extra
Easy
- 00:10:488 (2,1) - Make this same DS as 00:19:735 (3,1) -
- 00:23:937 (1,2,1,2,1) - ^ These too, some tails touching, some not
- 00:27:300 (1) - Wouldn't suggest to force bend the first point (sharp slider head), SV is fast, might be little hard to follow
- 00:29:821 - Make this point 1.2x SV in timing panel, then use the same DS as the others (no touching slider tail)
Advanced
- 00:10:488 (1) - You can try mapping these patterns like this (ignoring DS), but anything is fine:Image
___
Referring to the previous Approach Circle:
Insane
- 00:23:096 (5) - Any way not to let this touch 00:22:676 (3) - ?
- 00:26:459 (1,2) - Separate these too coz this part's DS is more spaced, like 00:24:778 (4,5,6) - 00:28:981 (1,2,3,4,5) -
Irre's Extra
- 00:28:666 (7) - Ctrl+G this to indicate different timing between 00:28:140 (5,6) - ? (different shape, unalike DS would do too imo)
- 00:28:981 (1,2) - gg blanket :p
Looking for a good diff name
- Maybe can relate to the song title / pokemon? 0.0"
Or just put Extra :3
lepidon's Inner Oni
- I found Unsnapped circle from unofficial AIBAT tho, maybe take a look? (afaik timing is vital in taiko mode)
00:06:601 (37) - 00:06:706 (38) - 00:06:811 (39) - 00:06:916 (40) -
Call me back!
Topic Starter
Easy - Fixed all but the slidershape, I personally like it
Advanced - It's fine, so it keeps DS (especcially for the next object)
Insane - Fixed all
Diff name - Named it: "Distortion of Time and Space" (Distortion --> Giratina's world, Time -> Dialga, Space --> Palkia, best diff name ever
)
Inner - Fixed the snaps, though they were 1ms, they are not notified by AiMod and not unrankable
Thank you!
Waiting for Irre now
Advanced - It's fine, so it keeps DS (especcially for the next object)
Insane - Fixed all
Diff name - Named it: "Distortion of Time and Space" (Distortion --> Giratina's world, Time -> Dialga, Space --> Palkia, best diff name ever
)Inner - Fixed the snaps, though they were 1ms, they are not notified by AiMod and not unrankable
Thank you!
Waiting for Irre now
osu file format v14
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AudioFilename: Encounter! (Many things).mp3
AudioLeadIn: 2000
PreviewTime: 400
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0
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DistanceSpacing: 1
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Title:Shisen! Karate Ou
TitleUnicode:視線！からておう
Artist:Hitomi Sato
ArtistUnicode:佐藤仁美
Creator:Baraatje123
Version:Irre's Extra
Source:ポケットモンスター ダイヤモンド・パール
Tags:lepidopodus Irreversible EvilElvis Poketto Monsutā Daiyamondo & Pāru Pocket Monsters Nintendo Pokémon Pokemon Diamond Pearl Platinum Version Psychic Martial Arts Police Officer Black Belt
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64,192,25723,2,0,B|72:224|104:228|104:228|56:268|92:344,1,152.250005807877,0|4,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
180,324,26039,2,0,B|172:292|140:288|140:288|188:248|152:172,1,152.250005807877,0|4,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
332,320,26459,5,4,1:0:0:0:
332,320,26564,2,0,B|340:292|372:288|372:288|324:248|348:202,1,152.250005807877,0|4,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
447,195,26880,2,0,B|440:224|408:228|408:228|456:268|431:313,1,152.250005807877,0|4,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,64,27300,6,0,L|312:64,1,76.1250029039384,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
212,124,27615,1,0,0:0:0:0:
212,124,27720,2,0,L|124:124,1,76.1250029039384,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,192,28035,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,192,28140,2,0,L|348:192,1,38.0625014519692,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,268,28350,2,0,L|124:268,1,38.0625014519692,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
386,328,28666,6,0,L|348:328,1,38.0625014519692,0|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,136,28981,6,0,P|155:56|219:134,1,228.375008711815,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,136,29401,1,0,0:0:0:0:
464,56,29611,1,4,0:0:0:0:
256,244,29821,5,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,29926,12,0,33183,0:0:0:0:
All fixed, thanks!
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Time to call Krfawy/Rakuen again \:D/
Time to call Krfawy/Rakuen again \:D/
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