1. Marathon (5.19 stars, 2117 notes)

Josde wrote:

Oh, boy.
short shitmod, no kd
[Tags]
Add "Fujijo Seitokai Shikkou-bu", "Tsunamaru" and "Primastella". They're the artists.
You should probably also add "love lab" since that's where best friends is from, and "ルーセントハート" since that's, as far as I know, the source for Koigokoro.

[General]
OD8 seems a bit overkill for the difficulty the map has atm, maybe lower it a bit to 7.5?

You should set a preview point. Here are my recommendations:
01:27:671 (1) - Start of the chorus of Koigokoro
03:46:127 (1) - Start of the chorus of Daidai Genome
07:21:658 - Start of the chorus of Best FriendS, or 07:20:002 - if you wanna leave a bit of the buildup.

30201102 wrote:

The first timing section is a bit early. I would increase the offset to 265.

StarrStyx wrote:

I wonder why Koigokoro is placed first - I mean, daidai's bpm is lower and maybe it's better to organise songs in order of bpm?

[Taiga] wrote:

Hi cheezstick,

Beatmap feels great, wish it gets ranked and i will to help with making it looks "like a bawz".
First mod (and probably not last one), after playing this nomod and hidden, here are some suggestions.

Metadata

I would add into tags: orange genome, 恋愛ラブラボ Done

Marathon

01:27:050 (6) - rotating slider to start closer from (5) and ends into (1) makes easier flow Done
04:31:571 (2) - in my opinion unnecessary circle Listen to track, that circle represents the high hat and suits imo.

05:54:127 (1,2,3,4) - confusing
05:55:016 (1,2,3,4) - ^
05:55:905 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^ I agree, I have trouble sightreading this, and have seen people screw up this spot in testplays. Section remapped.
05:57:238 (1,2) - imo too high spacing betwin each other Same DS multi as rest of jumps
06:01:238 (5,1,1,1) - making slightly bigger spacing betwin sliders makes it easier to hit, kinda unexpected pattern (explained ingame) I think this is fine and easily readable, and have seen others hit this with ease, and it also looks fine imo. Will keep it for now.
06:03:016 (1,2,1,2) - connecting from last slider made for me better follow up (explained ingame)^
09:15:939 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - in my opinion debatable stream, as user of 100% hitsounds and 50% music volume it was catchy to find rhythm for it and it confused me a bit, on standard skin it was easier tho Stream is definitely there and follows the drum line 100% no overmapping, will keep.

That's for now, will give it way more plays when i get time.
Cheers!

maxandcheese wrote:

Marathon
00:51:693 (1) - Rotate slider -50 (selection center); make slider look better Done (Well, I made it face another way, didn't rotate it, looks better anyway)

00:58:550 (1) - Make slider look better Done
03:13:238 (2) - ^ Done
03:14:127 (1,1,1,2,3,4,5) - Make a continuous combo
03:19:905 (1) - Remove new combo Didn't make any combo changes across whole map, it suits like this. Will wait for more experienced modder / mapper's opinion
03:19:905 (1) - Make new combo
03:29:238 (1) - Remove new combo
04:10:794 (4) - Make new combo
05:22:127 (1) - Make slider look better Done
05:35:683 (4,5,1) - Make it it's own combo
05:36:127 (2,3,4) - ^
05:43:016 (1,2,1) - ^
05:43:683 (2,3,1) - ^
05:44:127 (2,3,1) - ^
07:04:527 (1) - Make slider look better Done
07:06:920 (3) - ^
07:34:896 (1) - ^
07:39:313 (1) - ^ (Make the red point more centered) Just moved it to center and made it non-linear point (That's what I did with the previous sliders you mentioned as well)
08:39:681 (5) - Make new combo
08:46:307 (1,2,3,4,5) - imo space the stream a bit more It suits like this more. I might make it curve a bit more, but spacing will stay at 0.5.
09:56:245 (4) - I think it would look better as two stacked doubles As a slider it definitely plays and reads better, will keep it like this.
10:08:945 (1,2) - Remove this bit Done

maxandcheese wrote:

Kiai Time Suggestions
00:44:836 (1) - 01:12:265 (1)
01:27:693 (1) - 01:55:122 (1)
02:22:550 (1) - 02:36:265 (1)
05:22:127 (1) - 05:50:794 (4)
07:23:116 (3) - 07:49:619 (1)
08:47:043 (1) - 09:13:546 (1)
10:16:859 (1) - 10:43:362 (1)

maxandcheese wrote:

My first mod. Don't know if I'm doing this right... but this map is just so good not to mod.

1. 03:26:349 (3,1) - Jump angle too small to suit flow?
2. 03:31:016 (3) - ^
3. 03:35:460 (1,2,3,4) - Too much spacing on this stream?
4. 03:53:016 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Maybe it would look better overall if second triple was facing the opposite of the first and third.
5. 04:31:460 (1,2,3) - Stack this triple for easier reading imo.
6. 04:55:016 (2,3,4,5,1) - Too much stream spacing again?
7. 04:56:794 (1,2,3,4,1) - ^
8. 06:01:238 (5,1,1,1) - I know you said hitsound pending, but just incase, mute slider ends obviously

ZenithPhantasm wrote:

[Marathon]

1. 03:26:349 (3,1) - Jump angle too small to suit flow?
2. 03:31:016 (3) - ^
3. 03:35:460 (1,2,3,4) - Too much spacing on this stream?
4. 03:53:016 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Maybe it would look better overall if second triple was facing the opposite of the first and third.
5. 04:31:460 (1,2,3) - Stack this triple for easier reading imo.
6. 04:55:016 (2,3,4,5,1) - Too much stream spacing again?
7. 04:56:794 (1,2,3,4,1) - ^
8. 06:01:238 (5,1,1,1) - I know you said hitsound pending, but just incase, mute slider ends obviously

1. 00:23:193 (2,3,4,5,6) - Consider increasing the angle on these jumps, snapping in a straight line can be a nuiscance.
2. 00:42:265 (3) - Majority of this section uses curved sliders. IMO, this slider should continue this trend to maintain consistency.
3. 00:58:122 (2) - Move this note up to help flow better, lots of sharp-ish turns in this section and this smooth turn plays weird.
4. 01:10:336 (6) - Move this note to the left, very close to note 4 and looks oddly spaced, merely aesthetic.
5. 01:10:979 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Increase of spacing caught me off guard, consider lowering the jump spacing on this combo or increasing the spacing on the previous combo to flow better.
6. 02:30:265 (4,5) - Angle of snaps is quite small on these notes, consider making these more snappy to improve gameplay.

1. 03:11:460 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - This back and forth pattern doesnt play very well, triangles would be a better fit for this section but I'll leave that to your disgression.
2. 05:41:683 - ^
3. 04:31:460 (1,2,3) - This short burst doesn't fit with the rest of the map, consider removing note 2 and moving note 1 to a space that suits.
4. 06:06:683 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Very awkward pattern to play, the repetetive movements are hard to replicate so many times in a row.

1. 07:43:730 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Very big increase in difficulty, especially coming off Daidai Genome. It's fine on the later 2 Kiai
2. sections but consider lowering the difficulty of this section and building up to the later 2 sections.
3. 07:56:797 (2) - Change to a single note or spinner, the slider end plays no part in the song and seems weird.
4. 09:10:601 (4,5,6,7,8) - Difficulty is fine, but these notes are slightly awkward to play, after playing about with it something along the lines of...
   
   4: x264 y136
   5: x344 y328
   6: x128 y280
   7: x424 y192
   8: x304 y32
   
   
   ...plays a lot better.

Wookiezi wrote:

[Koigokoro]

1. 00:23:193 (2,3,4,5,6) - Consider increasing the angle on these jumps, snapping in a straight line can be a nuiscance. I think these are fine. Haven't had or seen anyone have trouble in testplays, and they don't look aesthetically unappealing.
2. 00:42:265 (3) - Majority of this section uses curved sliders. IMO, this slider should continue this trend to maintain consistency. Done
3. 00:58:122 (2) - Move this note up to help flow better, lots of sharp-ish turns in this section and this smooth turn plays weird. Done
4. 01:10:336 (6) - Move this note to the left, very close to note 4 and looks oddly spaced, merely aesthetic. I agree looking back at this, revised whole pattern in general, horizontally lined 3 and 4 up, and made 5 and 6 more aesthetic.
5. 01:10:979 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Increase of spacing caught me off guard, consider lowering the jump spacing on this combo or increasing the spacing on the previous combo to flow better. Reduced spacing between 2,3,4 and made into more traditional triangle. Made NC at 5 to suit triangle.
6. 02:30:265 (4,5) - Angle of snaps is quite small on these notes, consider making these more snappy to improve gameplay. Done

[Daidai Genome]

1. 03:11:460 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - This back and forth pattern doesnt play very well, triangles would be a better fit for this section but I'll leave that to your disgression.
2. 05:41:683 - ^ Both play fine imo and in testplays I've seen, I think the 1,2 1,2 musically suits the notes of the piano more than triangles, will leave like this for now.
3. 04:31:460 (1,2,3) - This short burst doesn't fit with the rest of the map, consider removing note 2 and moving note 1 to a space that suits. Done, also revised NC points to be more suitable.
4. 06:06:683 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Very awkward pattern to play, the repetetive movements are hard to replicate so many times in a row. Section changed.

[Best friendS]

1. 07:43:730 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Very big increase in difficulty, especially coming off Daidai Genome. It's fine on the later 2 Kiai
2. sections but consider lowering the difficulty of this section and building up to the later 2 sections. I think it's fine, will wait for another opinion.
3. 07:56:797 (2) - Change to a single note or spinner, the slider end plays no part in the song and seems weird. Yeah I also thought this, thought muting slider end would fix, but I guess not. Changed to a single note and made slider more aesthetic to make up for lack of other slider.
4. 09:10:601 (4,5,6,7,8) - Difficulty is fine, but these notes are slightly awkward to play, after playing about with it something along the lines of...
   
   4: x264 y136
   5: x344 y328
   6: x128 y280
   7: x424 y192
   8: x304 y32
   
   
   ...plays a lot better.

Slightly improved position of 4,5,6 and 7, but didn't follow your coordinates.

Synpoo wrote:

[Koigokoro]

00:24:693 (1) - remove nc
01:27:050 (6) - this feels better as two circles instead of a slider, similar to 00:44:193 (6,7)
01:48:265 (1) - whistle
01:57:907 (6) - NC
consider a spinner from 02:51:693 to 02:53:622
All applied^

[pp Genome]
03:14:127 (1,1) - remove nc on these Done
04:07:460 (3,1) - slider plays nicer It's fine how it is, would ruin all the patterns setting each other up in that section and Lust's map has circles in this section as well so it's probably better like this
04:31:460 (3,4) - start the slider on 3 Done
05:12:571 and 05:12:794 feels empty, consider two notes here similar to the last measure This section of the map emphasizes the piano, not the drums (Hence the hitsounds), I think it's better like this. However, I changed 8 into 2 circles as opposed to a slider.
05:14:349 (2) - move left a bit so it isn't touching the slider, doesn't look too pretty
05:23:016 (3,5) - ^ but to the right Both applied.

[Best FriendS]
06:50:724 (1) - lel im not fond of how this looks but w/e Made it a more standard looking slider
07:16:491 (1) - remove clap Was about to say No Dap had the clap here, but I changed this section in hitsounding to follow the drum line more compared to his map, so I decided to apply this.
07:38:577 (3,5) - this was kinda hard to read but its probably just cuz i suck Ye u just suk xd lmao, even that noob rafis says it's easy to read: http://puu.sh/jfWfz/bf7f89c460.jpg
Nah I changed it, did look kinda odd looking back at it.
07:39:865 (3,1) - consider blanketing this buuut probably not The fuck kind of indecisive modding is this lmao. It's like half blanketed, not hard to read or aesthetically displeasing so I'll leave this as it is.
08:11:705 (1) - perhaps something like this would look better That does indeed look better, did my best to emulate it.
08:44:650 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6) - this plays very awkwardly, consider remapping it similarly to the buildup to the previous chorus I don't think so, but did it anyway to improve it.
08:50:724 (3,1) - slider should start in 3's place Done, did some pretty sik blanket magic here to remap it if i say so myself
08:52:012 (3,4) - a slider from red to red matches the vocals and plays nicely Don't wanna start the 1/1 sliders til the one after this.
09:41:521 (1) - slightly nazi but this ccould be moved upward to prevent the sliders from overlapping Done
10:00:294 (6,1) - a bigger jump here, feels awkward right now Done
10:34:343 (1) - remove nc Done
10:36:368 (7,1) - a jump seems necessary here Done, remapped the weird half backwards star whatever pattern that was before it as well, Idk what I was thinking when I made that.

thanks for the future pp