Proph Nobster wrote:

Timing is incorrect. (I told you about the timing bro)

Only one red timing point is needed.

BPM remains 103.15
Offset is 55

Crimmi wrote:

P.Nobster's Eayysy

Nothing bad here except the lack of hitsounds, so i'll make it quick: Added hitsounds. (soft-whistle every 2nd/4th white tick before kiai, after uses soft-clap)

1. 00:36:700 (x) - Maybe add a note here, to finish it up right. Done.

Crimmi wrote:

By the request of <strong>Mazziv</strong>, I shall mod your map for you~

General (Metadata/Timing)

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1. Well then, after 10 seconds on youtube I already found the artist for you, so it's "/v/ the Musical 2" or "/v/ the Musical II" but I am not so sure.
2. And the correct title is just "AYY LMAO", it's track 6 on the album "Viva La Vidya" given that you're only using the 30 second version xD.
3. But you can add "Macarena" to the tags because that's what the original song that artist is using and "Los Del Rio" since they are the original artist of the Macarena.
4. Try a timing setting of 103.10 BPM but you can reject it if you so wish. Just besure to fix all Inherited points (green lines) afterwards.
5. Add Proph Nobster and Mazziv to the tags since they contributed a diff in your map.
6. I know this is going to be nitpicky, but your BG is 1365 x 768 as to the required 1366 x 768. But I am sure someone will let it slide or you can get that issue checked out.
7. Maybe place 00:18:668 as your preview point?

P.Nobster's Eayysy

Nothing bad here except the lack of hitsounds, so i'll make it quick:

1. 00:36:700 (x) - Maybe add a note here, to finish it up right.

Normayylmao

There is a change in spacing in this diff, double check it to make sure. Examples I will point out are here & here. And the lack of hitsounds is apparent here as well.

1. 00:09:652 (2) - I would copy and paste this slider and fix it up like this.
2. 00:14:596 (6) - Maybe move this around so that the slider repeat is pointing upwards like this.
3. 00:25:067 (6) - Suggestion.
4. 00:26:375 (1,2) - The ending after this is a bit too sudden, even for a normal.
5. 00:34:955 (1,2) - ^

Hayyard

While there are some hitsounds in this diff, they really don't fit that much like the claps, I suggest experimenting with hitsounds a bit more, like the whistles and finishes as well.

1. 00:02:817 (1) - Stack this under (3).
2. 00:05:871 (1) - This could blanket (5) neatly.
3. 00:08:053 (1,2) - Suggestion.
4. 00:10:234 (4,5) - This a bit too hard for a normal player to execute, even on a hard, I suggest you fix the gap so that the reaction time between these two is acceptable.
5. 00:14:015 (4,1,2) - Fix the spacing between these sliders, they are uneven.
6. 00:16:632 (1,2,3,4) - Suggestion.
7. 00:19:104 (2,3) - Suggestion. (Try to follow this to avoid any more spacing related mods from me or others.)
8. 00:20:995 (1,2,3) - Spacing.
9. 00:28:411 (1,1,1,1) - Remove the NC's since the verse isn't finished yet.
   00:34:373 (8) - Maybe blanket (6) with this slider.

Light ayy

1. 00:07:035 (2) - Suggestion.
2. 00:11:106 (4) - Maybe blanket (3) with this slider.
3. 00:31:610 (1,2) - These two are kind of overlapping each other and should be spaced out a bit.
4. 00:34:955 (2,3) - Suggestion.

Mz's ayyy

Lack of hitsounds in this diff, but like we talked in IRC, I am sure that you're fixing it as I type this mod.

1. 00:07:616 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Suggestion.

Ayy Lmao

• Clear.

Verdict:

• There are some issues with spacing and patterns, and as I said, hitsounding. Not bad just keep in mind to keep your spacing constant in the easier difficulties.

Crimmi out~!

Exa wrote:

Modding done:

[P. Nobster's Eayysy]

- Change diff name to "P. Nobster's Easy" for the sake of rankability.
00:00:055 (1,2) - Blanket.
00:09:361 (1,2) - Imperfect blanket.
00:25:648 (1) - Looks bad but w/e.

[Normayylmao]


- Change the name to "Normal ayylmao" for the sake of rankability.
- This section will be edited with actual modding notes once the difficulty has been remapped with steady DS.

[Hayyrd]

- Change the name to "Hard ayy" for the sake of rankability.
00:02:817 (1,1,1,1) - Fix combos.
00:04:126 (1,1) - Add a bit more spacing for better readability.
00:04:999 (2,3,4,5) - Can't be read at all by Hard-Level players.
00:08:052 (1,2,4) - They touch in a way they should not. (It's almost sexual)
00:10:670 (5,6) - Too much touching is going on, fix it. I will stop pointing out weird touchings now because they are easy to be seen.
00:12:270 (1,2) - Use same slider.
00:14:306 (1,2) - Same.
00:14:887 (3,1) - Add spacing for better readability.
00:20:558 (7) - Ctrl+G Ayy.
00:27:975 (1,1,1,1,1) - Fix combos.
00:28:847 (1,1) - Use the same slider.
00:30:301 (1,2,3) - Make a symmetrical pattern here. Make each slider overlap the other the same.
00:28:847 (1,1) - Nasty overlap.
00:35:827 (3,4,5,6,1) - Will be read as a stream by Hard-Level players. Use another pattern.
00:36:409 (1) - Ctrl+G ayy?

[Light Ayy]

- Change name to "Light Insane Ayy" for the sake of rankability.
00:07:034 (2,5,6) - Bad overlaps.
00:08:052 (1,2) - use same slider.
00:08:052 (1,2,3,4) - The flow here a a bit confusing. You move from snappy flow to linear too fast.
00:10:961 (3,4) - Try making a fake blanket.
00:30:592 (2,4) - Nasty overlap.
00:36:118 (5,6,1) - Weird distance snap. There is more tension between 6 and 1 but you lower the DS.

[Mz's ayyy]

- Name is fine. I guess..
00:00:927 - Don't skip. (I see you skip the same beat many time ahead too, so you might skip it).
00:04:126 (7,1) - Bad overlap.
00:09:361- Don't skip that though.
00:09:943 (2,1) - You can keep it clean. Do it.
00:16:051 - and 00:11:979 - Don't do dem SV stunts.
00:14:306 (1,2) - There are instances where you do this before and after this time. Use the same slider! It looks bad not being symmetrical.
00:24:776 (4,5) - Don't stop the flow ~ Dun tun tuuun.
00:25:648 (7) - Ask a BN about this.
00:27:684 - Don't skip.
00:28:266 (3,1) - Moar DS.
00:28:266 (3,1) - Stack. And fix the pattern afterwards.
00:32:628 (1) - Lonely combo?
00:36:118 (3) - Ctrl+G.

[Ayy Lmao]

- Diff name and song names are the same. Fix ples.
00:00:055 (1,2,3) - Keep steady DS.
00:00:636 (3) - Or actually do something to bring out beats like that.
- AASDF It has the same antithetical issues as the other ones. Asymmetrical sliders, bad overlaps. And I can also not give feedback on the flow since it's not actually playable for me.

[General]

- Remove kiai times. This map is better off without them.
- Mind symmetry when you should.
- Hitsounds maybe?

That's all. Poke me when you are done with Normal. That is indeed a nice meme.

Exa wrote:

Modding done:

[P. Nobster's Eayysy]

- Change diff name to "P. Nobster's Easy" for the sake of rankability.
- Change the name to "Normal ayylmao" for the sake of rankability.
- Change the name to "Hard ayy" for the sake of rankability.
No. The difficulty names still communicate the level of difficulty, therefore they're rankable. I did some reading on this, but please correct me if this is wrong. And as a side note, since OP believed the names were too cheesy (I'd agree), they were changed anyways.

00:00:055 (1,2) - Blanket. Sliders of this length are difficult to see as blankets, but I've played around with their positions and it worked out.

00:09:361 (1,2) - Imperfect blanket. Fixed.

00:25:648 (1) - Looks bad but w/e. I moved a white point to make it resemble an elbow more. Still, "looks bad" communicates almost nothing about what you want me to do.

MadHypnofrog wrote:

random very nazi mod, all of the NC things are pretty much my opinion that can be wrong, also there's a ton of recommendations to make sliders parallel that can be wrong as well

P. Nobster's Easy:
preview point is different from other diffs, same with tags
looks fine. i'd personally make the combos shorter but it's ok

Normal:
00:09:361 (1,2,3) - blanket?
00:11:978 (6) - NC instead of 00:12:270 (1)
00:12:851 (2) - this one's shape feels a little bit too weird for me compared to the previous one
00:14:305 (5) - NC
00:17:505 (3) - this is nazi but i'd rather make a blanket there or move it to the right a bit and change its shape so it'll be more symmetrical to 00:16:923 (2)
00:22:740 (6) - make it parallel to 00:23:612 (2)?
00:30:011 (2) - NC instead of 00:29:720 (1)

Hard:
00:02:236 (4) - this is not needed I guess
00:02:381 (5) - NC instead of 00:02:817 (1)
00:05:725 (4,1) - imperfect blanket
00:09:943 (3,4) - ^ (in case it was supposed to be a blanket LOL)
00:11:688 (7) - NC instead of 00:12:270 (1) -
00:12:270 (1,2) - (nazi) i'd make these parallel
00:14:306 (1,2) - ^
00:15:469 (1,2) - ^
00:16:632 (1,2,3,4) - ^, those can really be better (especially the 1st)
00:17:796 (1,2,3) - this looks fine though but can be fixed a bit, also i'd increase the spacing between 2 and 3 so it'll be similar to 1 and 2
00:21:867 (1,2,3) - ^
00:23:176 (5) - same as 00:02:236 (4)
00:28:411 (1) - remove NC?
00:29:720 (1) - ^
00:32:628 (4) - NC instead of 00:32:919 (1)
00:34:228 (7,8) - imperfect blanket?
00:34:955 (1,2) - (nazi again) make these parallel
00:35:828 (3,4) - ^

Light Insane:
00:02:381 (5) - NC instead of 00:02:817 (1)
00:07:470 (3) - i'd move this to (384, 300), looks better imo
00:14:014 (4) - NC?
00:14:305 (1,2) - (nazi strikes again) make these parallel
00:15:469 (1,2) - ^
00:16:632 (1,2,3,4) - random spacing between these looks weird for me
00:23:176 (5) - same thing as in Hard, i'd remove this

Mz's Insane:
00:16:341 - put a note there?
00:16:632 (1) - move this to (184, 152) to fix the spacing between those 3 sliders
00:21:867 (1) - ^, i'd move this to (76, 184)
00:23:758 (1) - i'd remove that NC, that lonely slider..
00:25:648 (8) - NC?
00:28:848 (1) - why is this NC here? either remove this or put it on 00:19:541 (7) i guess
00:29:720 (5) - not really important, looks fine but i'd put the sliderend a bit lower
00:31:464 (5,6) - (you know what) make these parallel

Insane:
00:03:545 (1,2,3) - i'd make the order the same as in the previous triangle
00:12:269 (1) - remove NC?
00:14:014 (4) - NC? same as for the Light Insane
00:21:722 (6) - (optional) i'd put a NC there instead of 00:21:867 (1)
00:22:158 (2) - (really optional) move to (292, 72)
00:26:520 (3,4,5,6) - these look bad, use that polygon thingie to get a good square
00:29:138 (7) - (optional again) put a NC there instead of 00:29:429 (1)

general:
fix some overmapping and symmetries/etc and it will be 11/10
as for now i r8 8/8, gr8 m8

Sadistic Potato wrote:

[Mz's Ayy]
00:16:341 - feels empty Shorter mod I can reply easier :3, That was fixed
00:23:758 (1) - if you want to NC, NC it to 00:24:194 (2) - instead dun
00:25:648 - NC should be here, like 00:34:955 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - dun

[Ayy Insane]
00:10:670 (1,2,3) - this flow isn't very nice, move (2) down Everything here also done
starting from 00:14:306 (1,2,3) - you introduced the flow, continuing to 00:15:469 (1,2,3) - nice, but 00:16:632 (1,2,3) - contradicts your flow, I'd suggest putting the (3) like this

00:34:373 (2) - what about this? NaH

If you decide to not ignore the symmetry mod Since you and the last mod suggested I might aswell do it, it won't hurt that much
00:26:084 (2) - not straight
00:26:520 (3,4,5,6) - not even square
00:35:391 (2) - not straight
00:35:827 (3,4,5,6) - not even square

-Lemons wrote:

here have a mod by the way you're gonna have a lot of work to do because the 'soundcloud' songs get a lot of shit so be prepared for that

also in general fix your combos, it's really easy to fix them just literally have a new combo start on every downbeat (or if there's like a timing of notes change, like going from 1/2 to 1/3 or something then NC helps read it but that doesn't happen in this map just a tip kkthnx)

p nobsters easy

ur good dawg

normayyylmao

00:01:218 (3) - ugly slider please make pretty (blanket it with 00:02:090 (4) - or something)
00:03:981 (3) - blanket
00:07:325 (3) - literally just take 00:08:198 (5) - and Ctrl- GHJ it and put it in the place where this is right now cuz that looks nice
00:08:779 (6) - why straight give it a wiggle
00:11:397 (5,2) - make them same slider or at the very least make 00:12:270 (2,3) - the same slider
00:21:576 (3) - make like mr derulo and give it a wiggle wiggle wiggle
00:22:158 (4,5,6) - tighten this up it looks bad (something like this idk https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3400082&#41;
00:31:174 (3) - wiggel wiggle wigleg
00:32:047 (5) - running out of wiggles to tell you make these striahgt sliders have curves so it's not so bland
00:32:919 (2) - Jason derulo
00:36:700 (4) - This one is gud as a straight tho by the way just watned to tell you

hard

00:04:708 (1) - give some distance between the previous slider and this one because otherwise peeps are probably gonna sliderbreak here
00:05:725 (4,1) - why are these so close together? good blanket but the spacing is silly
00:08:634 (3,4) - move to x:88 y:164
00:15:469 (1,2) - make em the same
00:16:632 (1,2,3,4) - space out more too cramped
00:17:795 (1,2,3) - same here also cancel out the combo, it doesn't need to be a new one
00:24:339 (5,6,7) - move this somwhere else, the way it's overlapping with 3 from the previous part of the combo is icky looking
00:24:630 (7,8) - idk bout this random curves here, they stick out a lot, also make them the same pls
00:25:212 (9) - put at x:264 y:16
00:26:084 (2) - put at x:296 y:308
00:28:411 (2,3,4) - make all the same
00:34:955 (1,2) - ^
00:36:991 (2) - make this a jump tbh

light insayyylmaone

00:01:363 (1) - put at x:184 y:328
00:01:654 (2) - x:356 y:284
00:08:052 (1,2) - this needs to be changed to something else, like make the 1 not overlap the 5 from the previous combo or like, move it to somewhere else or move the 00:07:761 (5,6) - to somewhere else because it looks crowded and ugly atm. also make them the same slider
00:14:014 (1,2,3) - make them the same
00:14:887 (4) - move to x:456 y:236 or like straihgt up change this slider because the curve looks ugly where it is but if you move it down there it looks a little bit better
00:16:051 (3) - same thing with the curve being unappealing
00:16:632 (1,2,3,4) - all the same
00:18:086 (6) - make this the same angle as the previous bunch of sliders I think that would look nice but up to you on this one
00:19:104 (2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3400122 it's at x:184 y:100 by the way
00:20:558 (5) - x:272 y:192
00:20:994 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - all the same slider, NC unneeded
00:24:339 (4,5,6,7) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3400130 I think this plays better, 00:24:339 (4) - starts at x:212 y:328 then it's just single tap spacing that's up to you really
00:25:212 (9) - blanket
00:26:521 (3,4,5,6) - I don't like how 5 touches a pretty much random spot on 00:26:084 (2) - have it like stack on the slider end, also this box is barely even a box pls fix
00:29:283 (4,5,6) - overlap ugly on the triple single tap thingy and also the spacing is pretty whatever here i'd change that up
00:30:156 (7) - x:112 y:224
00:30:883 (3) - x:188 y:180
00:31:610 (1) - x:292 y:284
00:31:901 (2,3) - x:224 Y:324
00:35:827 (3,4,5,6) - pls squares have 90 degree angles wat r u doin

mz's ayy

I don't wanna mod this because tbh you should probably just remap it, it's got a ton of spacing inconsistancy issues and just like generally ugly sliders and just some pretty I guess bleh flow would be the word, it's nawt bad but it could be a lot better. you can come bug me on IRC or forum PM if you want me to elborate what I'm getting at

the rest of the diffs we discussed on IRC weeee

log here

03:46 -Lemons: ayy I'm doing a mod thingy for your map do you mind if I bug you about stuff because I don't feel like writing a mod for some of the really simple to fix stuff
03:46 pLolz: sure ayy
03:46 -Lemons: ayy
03:47 -Lemons: anyway
03:47 -Lemons: so combos
03:47 pLolz: pls mod extra as hard as you can ayy
03:47 -Lemons: I know someone complained about them so Imma just explain it
03:47 -Lemons: Literally just like
03:47 -Lemons: clear every combo on the map
03:47 -Lemons: and then just make it have a new combo on every downbeat
03:47 -Lemons: and shabam good combos
03:47 pLolz: which one is the down beat , I know it sounds stupid as fuck
03:47 pLolz: I forgot
03:47 -Lemons: naw no biggy nigga
03:48 -Lemons: it's the big ass white bar
03:48 -Lemons: on the time line
03:48 pLolz: oh
03:48 -Lemons: it's basically where the beats reset
03:48 pLolz: k
03:48 pLolz: it'll be ez pz den
03:48 -Lemons: But yeah literally do that for every map
03:48 pLolz: ayy
03:48 pLolz: 3hard5me Kappa
03:48 -Lemons: Another thing because as I move along in difficulties I'm noticing this more
03:48 -Lemons: oh my god please your sliders
03:48 -Lemons: they're ugly
03:48 pLolz: hue :>
03:49 -Lemons: I'm on ayy insane by the way
03:49 -Lemons: 00:01:800 (3,1) - 
03:49 -Lemons: like these
03:49 -Lemons: you should just copy 3 and paste it and make it be where 1 is
03:49 -Lemons: and then ctrl g it
03:49 -Lemons: looks gud
03:49 -Lemons: plays the same
03:50 -Lemons: or really, 1 you can just make a completely bonkers design for all it matters cuz it's a new combo
03:50 -Lemons: it's just super similar to the previous slider, so it looks kinda bleh yano?
03:51 -Lemons: so it's like, if it's that similar might as well make it a literal clone
03:51 pLolz: well yeah
03:52 -Lemons: you also have this thing you do
03:52 -Lemons: I mentioned it a bunch in my mod
03:52 -Lemons: 00:10:234 (4,2) - 
03:52 -Lemons: this here
03:52 -Lemons: where like
03:52 -Lemons: 2 is just kind of chillin half way on 4
03:52 -Lemons: you should just put 2 above 4 and not even worry about the overlap
03:53 -Lemons: sumthin like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3400183
03:53 pLolz: I'll also move 1 a bit up
03:53 -Lemons: yeah dawg do whatever it's just like
03:53 -Lemons: as I move along on the difficulties it's kinda like
03:53 -Lemons: you seem to forget how to asthetics more and more lol
03:53 -Lemons: and those are pretty much the least important thing on a map
03:54 -Lemons: but it's still pretty easy to fix it up
03:54 -Lemons: like this one here 00:11:688 (1) - 
03:54 pLolz: I'll fix them :d ayy
03:54 -Lemons: do somethin like this osu.ppy.sh/ss/3400187
03:54 -Lemons: nice screenshot peppy
03:55 -Lemons: now he's limiting my screenshot uploading
03:55 pLolz: nice
03:55 -Lemons: wow
03:55 -Lemons: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3400187
03:55 -Lemons: there
03:55 -Lemons: once again, I probably wouldn't put it there because yano then 2 is kinda just like casually overlapping 1
03:55 -Lemons: but you get what I'm sayin probs
03:55 -Lemons: 00:12:706 (6,1) -  another instance of weird overlap
03:56 -Lemons: oh and then you also do this a lot
03:56 -Lemons: I can tell that you pretty much didn't copy any sliders
03:56 -Lemons: 00:15:469 (1,2) - 
03:56 -Lemons: just copy 1 and paste it in 2's place, then just adjust it with Ctrl-g-h-j and whatnot
03:57 -Lemons: makes it prettier because symmetry is cool looking or something
03:57 pLolz: the weirder the merrier
03:57 pLolz: that's my motto
03:57 pLolz: :>
03:57 -Lemons: I mean I totes get that especially with this fuggin song
03:57 -Lemons: but like, trust me you're gonna get a lot of shit when it comes to ranking this map
03:57 -Lemons: because it's a 'soundcloud' song
03:57 -Lemons: and people like to rip them apart
03:58 pLolz: if you are talking about yes we cant
03:58 pLolz: the explaination is simple
03:58 -Lemons: Yes we can't and others like it
03:58 pLolz: the diffs were edgy
03:58 pLolz: CS2 CS7
03:58 -Lemons: cs2 is based
03:58 pLolz: extra's
03:58 pLolz: are edgy
03:58 -Lemons: but no I know what you're saying but srsly people like to rip on soundcloud songs
03:58 -Lemons: dunno why
03:59 -Lemons: trust me I hated both mapsets of that song
03:59 pLolz: I fc'd asphyxia's extra first try with 84% acc
03:59 -Lemons: lel
04:00 pLolz: then I tried to repair acc and failed the song
04:00 pLolz: gg
04:00 -Lemons: by the way the reason I pointed out so many of the symmetry issues is there were times where you did it fine like here 00:16:632 (1,2,3) - 
04:00 -Lemons: also I'm not gonna post like a mod thingy for the last 3 diffs since we're just discussing here
04:00 -Lemons: modded up to MZ's Ayy, and then Iw as like you know he's probably just online
04:01 -Lemons: I'll like
04:01 -Lemons: rip apart alien invasion if you want
04:01 pLolz: you can do as much modding as you'd like
04:01 pLolz: just keep the diff over 5.25
04:01 -Lemons: I know I figured so but I'm gettin tired
04:01 -Lemons: I was probably gonna see if you wanted a GD or something
04:02 -Lemons: just because this song is going to be stuck in my head for like 2 days at least
04:02 -Lemons: from the sheer dumbness of /v/
04:02 pLolz: You can do it I'm not extra level so I might be a bit extreme on mapping them
04:02 -Lemons: What diff would you want?
04:02 -Lemons: I tend to make like
04:02 -Lemons: 4-5 stars the best
04:02 -Lemons: I can rock an extra if needed
04:02 pLolz: extra pls
04:02 -Lemons: do you even want me to look at your extra lol
04:02 pLolz: should I add you in the mods box
04:03 -Lemons: yeah I'm posting a mod on the thread
04:03 -Lemons: I'm just talking with you here as well
04:03 -Lemons: and this will be in the mod post as well
04:03 pLolz: oh k
04:03 -Lemons: ye
04:03 pLolz: I really want this to get ranked
04:03 -Lemons: I know you do
04:03 -Lemons: also the difficulty
04:03 -Lemons: should be named
04:03 -Lemons: Ayylien invasion
04:04 -Lemons: the last difficulty on your map can be named whatever the fuck you want
04:04 pLolz: I thought it was too cheesy
04:04 pLolz: I know
04:04 -Lemons: dude this map is cheesy
04:04 -Lemons: roll with it
04:04 pLolz: the original names were as follows
04:04 -Lemons: I remember reading them
04:04 pLolz: P. Nobster's Eayysy
04:04 pLolz: Normayylmao
04:04 pLolz: Hayyrd
04:04 pLolz: Light Ayy
04:04 pLolz: Ayy Lmao
04:04 pLolz: thoose were the original
04:04 pLolz: and Hz's ayyy
04:05 -Lemons: I'll cut off my log here tho and post my mod on the thread so you can do my suggestion stuffs

Josde wrote:

I'm shit at mapping but whatever
[General]
Tags:
Ayy lmao is there twice, remove one of them
Add "/v/ sings" and "los del rio"
Source: /v/ The Musical 2: Viva La Vidya Ty for the metadata
(Original source: http://vthemusical.bandcamp.com/album/v-the-musical-2-viva-la-vidya)
[Ayylien Invasion]
00:03:545 (1,2,3,1,2) - Shouldn't the NC be in the slider, for consistency's sake? sure
00:28:411 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - What are 4 and 5 mapped to? to some small sounds, if you listen closely you can hear their screams

[Ayy Insane]
>not ayynsane

00:26:521 (3,4,5,6) - You should probably scale this down a bit, it feels unnatural due to how huge it is compared to other patterns ayy lmao is fast
00:35:828 (3,4,5,6) - ^

[Mz's Ayy]
OD8 seems overkill for this. I approve
00:25:648 (1) - The change in slider velocities feels to sudden. Try to make the previous sliders slower too, or simply make that slider bigger and faster Mz's ayy is slower then most ayy's don't judge him.
00:34:955 (1) - ^

[P. Nobster's Easy]
00:25:648 (1) - The "ayy lmao" slider should last 1/2th more, but I'm not sure on how to map the next beat. That's exactly the problem , you can't map the next part properly on easy diffs, let's leave it like that
00:34:955 (1) - ^

-Lemons wrote:

here have a mod by the way you're gonna have a lot of work to do because the 'soundcloud' songs get a lot of shit so be prepared for that

also in general fix your combos, it's really easy to fix them just literally have a new combo start on every downbeat (or if there's like a timing of notes change, like going from 1/2 to 1/3 or something then NC helps read it but that doesn't happen in this map just a tip kkthnx)

p nobsters easy

ur good dawg

normayyylmao

00:01:218 (3) - ugly slider please make pretty (blanket it with 00:02:090 (4) - or something)
00:03:981 (3) - blanket
00:07:325 (3) - literally just take 00:08:198 (5) - and Ctrl- GHJ it and put it in the place where this is right now cuz that looks nice
00:08:779 (6) - why straight give it a wiggle
00:11:397 (5,2) - make them same slider or at the very least make 00:12:270 (2,3) - the same slider
00:21:576 (3) - make like mr derulo and give it a wiggle wiggle wiggle
00:22:158 (4,5,6) - tighten this up it looks bad (something like this idk https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3400082&#41;
00:31:174 (3) - wiggel wiggle wigleg
00:32:047 (5) - running out of wiggles to tell you make these striahgt sliders have curves so it's not so bland
00:32:919 (2) - Jason derulo
00:36:700 (4) - This one is gud as a straight tho by the way just watned to tell you

hard

00:04:708 (1) - give some distance between the previous slider and this one because otherwise peeps are probably gonna sliderbreak here
00:05:725 (4,1) - why are these so close together? good blanket but the spacing is silly
00:08:634 (3,4) - move to x:88 y:164
00:15:469 (1,2) - make em the same
00:16:632 (1,2,3,4) - space out more too cramped
00:17:795 (1,2,3) - same here also cancel out the combo, it doesn't need to be a new one
00:24:339 (5,6,7) - move this somwhere else, the way it's overlapping with 3 from the previous part of the combo is icky looking
00:24:630 (7,8) - idk bout this random curves here, they stick out a lot, also make them the same pls
00:25:212 (9) - put at x:264 y:16
00:26:084 (2) - put at x:296 y:308
00:28:411 (2,3,4) - make all the same
00:34:955 (1,2) - ^
00:36:991 (2) - make this a jump tbh

light insayyylmaone

00:01:363 (1) - put at x:184 y:328
00:01:654 (2) - x:356 y:284
00:08:052 (1,2) - this needs to be changed to something else, like make the 1 not overlap the 5 from the previous combo or like, move it to somewhere else or move the 00:07:761 (5,6) - to somewhere else because it looks crowded and ugly atm. also make them the same slider
00:14:014 (1,2,3) - make them the same
00:14:887 (4) - move to x:456 y:236 or like straihgt up change this slider because the curve looks ugly where it is but if you move it down there it looks a little bit better
00:16:051 (3) - same thing with the curve being unappealing
00:16:632 (1,2,3,4) - all the same
00:18:086 (6) - make this the same angle as the previous bunch of sliders I think that would look nice but up to you on this one
00:19:104 (2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3400122 it's at x:184 y:100 by the way
00:20:558 (5) - x:272 y:192
00:20:994 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - all the same slider, NC unneeded
00:24:339 (4,5,6,7) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3400130 I think this plays better, 00:24:339 (4) - starts at x:212 y:328 then it's just single tap spacing that's up to you really
00:25:212 (9) - blanket
00:26:521 (3,4,5,6) - I don't like how 5 touches a pretty much random spot on 00:26:084 (2) - have it like stack on the slider end, also this box is barely even a box pls fix
00:29:283 (4,5,6) - overlap ugly on the triple single tap thingy and also the spacing is pretty whatever here i'd change that up
00:30:156 (7) - x:112 y:224
00:30:883 (3) - x:188 y:180
00:31:610 (1) - x:292 y:284
00:31:901 (2,3) - x:224 Y:324
00:35:827 (3,4,5,6) - pls squares have 90 degree angles wat r u doin

mz's ayy

I don't wanna mod this because tbh you should probably just remap it, it's got a ton of spacing inconsistancy issues and just like generally ugly sliders and just some pretty I guess bleh flow would be the word, it's nawt bad but it could be a lot better. you can come bug me on IRC or forum PM if you want me to elborate what I'm getting at

the rest of the diffs we discussed on IRC weeee

log here

03:46 -Lemons: ayy I'm doing a mod thingy for your map do you mind if I bug you about stuff because I don't feel like writing a mod for some of the really simple to fix stuff
03:46 pLolz: sure ayy
03:46 -Lemons: ayy
03:47 -Lemons: anyway
03:47 -Lemons: so combos
03:47 pLolz: pls mod extra as hard as you can ayy
03:47 -Lemons: I know someone complained about them so Imma just explain it
03:47 -Lemons: Literally just like
03:47 -Lemons: clear every combo on the map
03:47 -Lemons: and then just make it have a new combo on every downbeat
03:47 -Lemons: and shabam good combos
03:47 pLolz: which one is the down beat , I know it sounds stupid as fuck
03:47 pLolz: I forgot
03:47 -Lemons: naw no biggy nigga
03:48 -Lemons: it's the big ass white bar
03:48 -Lemons: on the time line
03:48 pLolz: oh
03:48 -Lemons: it's basically where the beats reset
03:48 pLolz: k
03:48 pLolz: it'll be ez pz den
03:48 -Lemons: But yeah literally do that for every map
03:48 pLolz: ayy
03:48 pLolz: 3hard5me Kappa
03:48 -Lemons: Another thing because as I move along in difficulties I'm noticing this more
03:48 -Lemons: oh my god please your sliders
03:48 -Lemons: they're ugly
03:48 pLolz: hue :>
03:49 -Lemons: I'm on ayy insane by the way
03:49 -Lemons: 00:01:800 (3,1) - 
03:49 -Lemons: like these
03:49 -Lemons: you should just copy 3 and paste it and make it be where 1 is
03:49 -Lemons: and then ctrl g it
03:49 -Lemons: looks gud
03:49 -Lemons: plays the same
03:50 -Lemons: or really, 1 you can just make a completely bonkers design for all it matters cuz it's a new combo
03:50 -Lemons: it's just super similar to the previous slider, so it looks kinda bleh yano?
03:51 -Lemons: so it's like, if it's that similar might as well make it a literal clone
03:51 pLolz: well yeah
03:52 -Lemons: you also have this thing you do
03:52 -Lemons: I mentioned it a bunch in my mod
03:52 -Lemons: 00:10:234 (4,2) - 
03:52 -Lemons: this here
03:52 -Lemons: where like
03:52 -Lemons: 2 is just kind of chillin half way on 4
03:52 -Lemons: you should just put 2 above 4 and not even worry about the overlap
03:53 -Lemons: sumthin like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3400183
03:53 pLolz: I'll also move 1 a bit up
03:53 -Lemons: yeah dawg do whatever it's just like
03:53 -Lemons: as I move along on the difficulties it's kinda like
03:53 -Lemons: you seem to forget how to asthetics more and more lol
03:53 -Lemons: and those are pretty much the least important thing on a map
03:54 -Lemons: but it's still pretty easy to fix it up
03:54 -Lemons: like this one here 00:11:688 (1) - 
03:54 pLolz: I'll fix them :d ayy
03:54 -Lemons: do somethin like this osu.ppy.sh/ss/3400187
03:54 -Lemons: nice screenshot peppy
03:55 -Lemons: now he's limiting my screenshot uploading
03:55 pLolz: nice
03:55 -Lemons: wow
03:55 -Lemons: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3400187
03:55 -Lemons: there
03:55 -Lemons: once again, I probably wouldn't put it there because yano then 2 is kinda just like casually overlapping 1
03:55 -Lemons: but you get what I'm sayin probs
03:55 -Lemons: 00:12:706 (6,1) -  another instance of weird overlap
03:56 -Lemons: oh and then you also do this a lot
03:56 -Lemons: I can tell that you pretty much didn't copy any sliders
03:56 -Lemons: 00:15:469 (1,2) - 
03:56 -Lemons: just copy 1 and paste it in 2's place, then just adjust it with Ctrl-g-h-j and whatnot
03:57 -Lemons: makes it prettier because symmetry is cool looking or something
03:57 pLolz: the weirder the merrier
03:57 pLolz: that's my motto
03:57 pLolz: :>
03:57 -Lemons: I mean I totes get that especially with this fuggin song
03:57 -Lemons: but like, trust me you're gonna get a lot of shit when it comes to ranking this map
03:57 -Lemons: because it's a 'soundcloud' song
03:57 -Lemons: and people like to rip them apart
03:58 pLolz: if you are talking about yes we cant
03:58 pLolz: the explaination is simple
03:58 -Lemons: Yes we can't and others like it
03:58 pLolz: the diffs were edgy
03:58 pLolz: CS2 CS7
03:58 -Lemons: cs2 is based
03:58 pLolz: extra's
03:58 pLolz: are edgy
03:58 -Lemons: but no I know what you're saying but srsly people like to rip on soundcloud songs
03:58 -Lemons: dunno why
03:59 -Lemons: trust me I hated both mapsets of that song
03:59 pLolz: I fc'd asphyxia's extra first try with 84% acc
03:59 -Lemons: lel
04:00 pLolz: then I tried to repair acc and failed the song
04:00 pLolz: gg
04:00 -Lemons: by the way the reason I pointed out so many of the symmetry issues is there were times where you did it fine like here 00:16:632 (1,2,3) - 
04:00 -Lemons: also I'm not gonna post like a mod thingy for the last 3 diffs since we're just discussing here
04:00 -Lemons: modded up to MZ's Ayy, and then Iw as like you know he's probably just online
04:01 -Lemons: I'll like
04:01 -Lemons: rip apart alien invasion if you want
04:01 pLolz: you can do as much modding as you'd like
04:01 pLolz: just keep the diff over 5.25
04:01 -Lemons: I know I figured so but I'm gettin tired
04:01 -Lemons: I was probably gonna see if you wanted a GD or something
04:02 -Lemons: just because this song is going to be stuck in my head for like 2 days at least
04:02 -Lemons: from the sheer dumbness of /v/
04:02 pLolz: You can do it I'm not extra level so I might be a bit extreme on mapping them
04:02 -Lemons: What diff would you want?
04:02 -Lemons: I tend to make like
04:02 -Lemons: 4-5 stars the best
04:02 -Lemons: I can rock an extra if needed
04:02 pLolz: extra pls
04:02 -Lemons: do you even want me to look at your extra lol
04:02 pLolz: should I add you in the mods box
04:03 -Lemons: yeah I'm posting a mod on the thread
04:03 -Lemons: I'm just talking with you here as well
04:03 -Lemons: and this will be in the mod post as well
04:03 pLolz: oh k
04:03 -Lemons: ye
04:03 pLolz: I really want this to get ranked
04:03 -Lemons: I know you do
04:03 -Lemons: also the difficulty
04:03 -Lemons: should be named
04:03 -Lemons: Ayylien invasion
04:04 -Lemons: the last difficulty on your map can be named whatever the fuck you want
04:04 pLolz: I thought it was too cheesy
04:04 pLolz: I know
04:04 -Lemons: dude this map is cheesy
04:04 -Lemons: roll with it
04:04 pLolz: the original names were as follows
04:04 -Lemons: I remember reading them
04:04 pLolz: P. Nobster's Eayysy
04:04 pLolz: Normayylmao
04:04 pLolz: Hayyrd
04:04 pLolz: Light Ayy
04:04 pLolz: Ayy Lmao
04:04 pLolz: thoose were the original
04:04 pLolz: and Hz's ayyy
04:05 -Lemons: I'll cut off my log here tho and post my mod on the thread so you can do my suggestion stuffs

pLolz wrote:

I'll check into them a bit later. I'm not feeling really well today...

pinataman wrote:

[General]

The kiai's aren't all at the same time (theres a little more kiai in easy). Make this consistent throughout the mapset
Kiai shortened in Easy.

[Easy]

00:09:361 (1) – I wish you went clockwise instead of counterclockwise since now the combo feels a little too similar to 00:04:708 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
I see where you're coming from, but with the diff's strict distance spacing I'd have to make highly substantial changes to the patterning.

00:34:955 (1) – this slightly overlaps the the time pie, move this down
I don't use the time pie, but I believe the slider is low enough now.

pLolz wrote:

I'll use it ;^) , with a bit of modfications to make it more playable.

Lasse wrote:

Ayy Alien Invasion

Rename to Ayynvasion maybe?
00:20:558 (6,1) - kinda weird flow, move this pattern a bit upwards 00:20:994 (1,2,3,4,5) Ty for that
00:25:648 (1) - pretty harsh immediate sv change Ayy lmao
00:31:610 (1,2,3,4,5) - feels a little weird, consider rotating 00:31:610 (1,2,3,4) - a bit to the right I also changed the places of 1 and 2
00:34:955 (1) - pretty harsh immediate sv change again ayy lmao

hp drain feels way too low for 5.5 stars, consider at lest hp6, ar could be a little lower (around 9.5) since there aren't really pattern that would require this high ar

Ayy Insane

Ar would feel better at around 9.3 or 9.2 sure
00:01:509 (2) - doesn't flow too well, maybe make it more like this ayy
00:21:722 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 2 and following would feel better placed a little more to the right ayy
00:25:212 (9,1) - again that extreme sv change, maybe make 00:25:212 (9) - 1.3 and then 1.5 for 00:25:648 (1,2) - ayy lmao , leave ayy lmao alone it should be fast :>
00:34:373 (2,1,2) - like above

Mz's Ayyy

OD~7.5 maybe?

_rat wrote:

pLolz wrote:

I'll use it ;^) , with a bit of modfications to make it more playable.

Haha alright, do you want me to also do the score numbers?

IdanZel wrote:

Please note the following:
1. Everything here is a recommendation. Feel free to ignore whatever you feel is unnecessary.
2. Stuff marked in blue are very minor things that I only put here because of my OCD, and that probably won't make a drastic change.
3. Stuff marked in red are crucial.

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Ayylien Invasion

00:00:927 (4) - Try to make this slider straight, then shape it up a bit, like here:

00:04:126 (1) - Remove NC
00:04:708 (2) - NC
00:11:688 (5) - NC
00:12:124 (1) - Remove NC
00:12:996 (1) - This slider is way to close to 00:12:851 (6) - in comparison to the pattern before. Try increasing the spacing between these two.
00:14:596 (3) - Rotate this 7 degrees clockwise in place (to match the previous slider's rotation).
00:15:760 (2) - Rotate this 7 degrees anti-clockwise in place (to match the previous slider's rotation).
00:21:722 (1) - Since the notes before this are placed back and forth, it makes this note confusing to hit the way it's placed. Moving it below 00:21:576 (5) - and ___ 00:21:867 (2) - while keeping the DS would make more sense.
00:21:722 (1) - Remove NC
00:22:158 (1) - NC
00:24:485 (5) - NC
00:27:975 (3) - NC
00:28:411 (1) - Remove NC
00:33:937 (7,1) - Try increasing the spacing between these two.
00:36:264 (6,1) - ^

Ayy Insane

00:00:636 (3) - Ctrl+G
00:02:381 (4) - NC
00:07:616 (4,5,6) - Ctrl+G
00:21:722 (1,2) - Try increasing the spacing between these two.
00:26:521 (3,4,5,6) - and 00:35:828 (3,4,5,6) - Even for an insane diff, these jumps don't fit well. Try decreasing the spacing between these.

Mz's ayyy

You'll need to change the diffname to a more appropriate one (e.g Mz's Insane ayyy).
Change Ar to 9.1 (?)
00:02:672 (2) - NC
00:04:708 (1,2,3) - The distance between these doesn't match their timing at all. You'll probably need to heavily increase the spacing.
00:07:035 (1,2) - ^
00:06:453 (6,1) - Add a note between these two (Perhaps to stack on 00:07:035 (1) - ).
00:14:015 (8) - NC
00:14:306 (1) - Remove NC
00:18:668 (3) - NC
00:21:722 (4,1) - The jump between these two notes is way too big. You'll probably need to heavily decrease the spacing.
00:23:322 (6) - NC

In general - the increase in SV at 00:16:051 doesn't make any sense. You should probably change the SV to a lower one, then trim the sliders (and perhaps the jumps as well).

Hard Ayy

The problems here occurred mostly due to the spacing, in relation to the timing.
00:01:800 (3,1) - Increase the spacing between these two.
00:04:126 (5,1) - ^
00:06:453 (3,4) - Decrease the spacing between these two.
00:06:598 (4,1) - ^
00:14:015 (4) - NC
00:14:306 (1) - Remove NC
00:19:104 (2,3) - Increase the spacing between these two.
00:23:176 (1) - Remove NC
00:23:321 (2) - NC
00:23:176 (1,2) - Decrease the spacing between these two.

This got longer than I expected it to
Hopefully this won't be too painful to read.

Good luck!

pinataman wrote:

pLolz wrote:

I'll check into them a bit later. I'm not feeling really well today...

Good. Let me give you a mod to make you feel better.

Hello, I'm here since you asked on reddit. There's a lot of other things I could say, but writing it down is a little hard. Please catch me in game when you have any questions on how to apply some of these suggestions or if I said something in a way that was confusing. There are a lot of issues i didn't mention, but hopefully this shares the ideas on how to improve that you can take that and apply to more than just the ones mentioned.

[General] Did most of theese

Add 4chan to tags?

Disable the countdown and increase the audio lead in to 1500 on all difficulties

Disable widescreen support since you don't have a storyboard. While you're at it, you can disable letterbox during breaks since there are no breaks.

The kiai's aren't all at the same time (theres a little more kiai in easy). Make this consistent throughout the mapset

Your background is 1365x768, which doesn't meet the ranking criteria. Making it 1366x768 fixes this. Nazi.

[Easy]

00:09:361 (1) – I wish you went clockwise instead of counterclockwise since now the combo feels a little too similar to 00:04:708 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -

00:34:955 (1) – this slightly overlaps the the time pie, move this down

[Normal] Fixed spacing

00:00:055 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1) – Make the distance spacing between these be consistent by making it 1.0x

00:01:218 (3,4) – slider leniency makes this feel weird

00:09:361 (1,2,3) – blanket better

00:15:469 (1) – Delete NC

00:19:249 (2,3) – inconsistent spacing most likely due to auto stack. make this 1.0x

00:20:413 (5,1) – No jumps in normals. Make this 1.0x spacing by flowing this in a different way

00:20:995 (1,2) - inconsistent spacing most likely due to auto stack. make this 1.0x

00:22:449 (5,2) – I'd prefer these not to overlap

00:25:648 (1) – make this end here 00:26:230 - , which will force you to move 2 and 3 which fixes the awkward overlap at 00:25:648 (1,3) -
00:34:955 (1) – same issue^

00:31:174 (4,5) - inconsistent spacing most likely due to auto stack. make this 1.0x

00:33:792 (4,5,1) – make all the spacing 1.0x

[Hard] Did 90% of the suggestions

I don't like having two combos during a single measure, so I'm in favor of deleting NC's like at 00:01:363 (1) – and 00:05:871 (1) -

00:00:055 (1,2) – This is an awkward flow to start with, so make it more like http://puu.sh/j2FMr/41c0159948.jpg

00:10:670 (5) – This reverse slider starts on a weak note which doesn't really go with much of the main rhythm. Slider ends are also weak since you don't click them, so 00:10:816 - feels odd. I liked the rhythm more at 00:14:306 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - . Really think about where the strong notes are in the rhythm and make sure you emphasize those.

00:16:632 (1,2,3,4) – make these parallel by copying and pasting (1) three times. http://puu.sh/j2FXq/3e146fde89.jpg

00:26:520 (3,4,5,6) – Increasing the rhythm feels a little too energetic. Either make the rhythm like 00:34:955 (1,2,3,4) - or make 00:25:648 (1,2) – just one slider and make it slow instead of fast. This provides time to set up the ¼ rhythm.

00:28:847 (3,5) – This looks better: http://puu.sh/j2FXq/3e146fde89.jpg

[Light Insane]

I'm too lazy

[Mz's Insane]

I'm too lazy

[Insane] Other mods called for 9.3 , I prefer it that way ( i hate ar8 )

Reduce AR to 8.8. This will be disqualified if you leave it at 9.5

This makes a lot of overlap issues come up, so you'll have to fix these. To explain some stuff about overlap, read the following, since this applies in a lot of your difficulties:

Overlap:

When two objects overlap, careful consideration must be taken or else the overlap has a high chance of looking poor and presents a design issue in your map. Make sure to understand how far objects need to be in time in order for the object to properly fade away so you don't overlap old notes. Going to View → Hit animations will show you what the map looks like when playing the game, so this will help you see what actually overlaps and what does not. Generally, you want to avoid subtle overlaps like this:

http://puu.sh/j2GTc/779b13a7f3.jpg

http://puu.sh/j2HOe/90b6d4b291.jpg

One way to fix an overlap is to stack objects directly on top of each other. For instance, the following pattern has been improved by a stack:

http://puu.sh/j2Hte/88ee091ceb.jpg


http://puu.sh/j2Hw5/70a77355e8.jpg

00:06:889 (1) – move this to 119, 41 (click the top right panel to enter coordinates). Notice how the distance between 00:06:453 (3,4,1) – are all the same, so they form a triangle. Doing things like this (making spacing similar between far away notes) improves the design of the map. I also think this flows better by making a more back and forth flow. If you do this you'll have to fix what comes after it.

00:14:014 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) – You use very few circles here. This results in the energy of this section feel kind of low compared to what you had before, which isn't great for the pacing of the map. (you had an interesting flow though) I wanted that flow

[Extra]

AR can down more to 9.5

Some of the patterns in extra are a direct copy of the insane. Please make this difficulty more unique. What are you talking about ?

00:05:725 (6,1) – the flow into this slider is a little awkward. Try something like http://puu.sh/j2OcJ/49427a75e9.jpg

00:08:779 (10) – make this into two ¼ sliders
00:11:106 (4) - ^

Good luck, and keep working at it!

Shizuku- wrote:

The spread between Normal ayy lmao and Hard ayy is quite big imo. If you are too lazy to do so, I might make mine to fix the spread.

Online wrote:

you should lower the AR on the hardest diff, doesn't feel playable :/
quote me if you want a proper mod on it ^^

Ayylien Invasion

Lemon's Ayyxtra