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Gakuen Seikatsu Bu - Friend Shitai [Taiko]

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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2015年7月18日 at 22:08:20

Artist: Gakuen Seikatsu Bu
Title: Friend Shitai
Source: がっこうぐらし!
Tags: Taiko SCHOOL-LIVE! Gakkou Gurashi! Anime Opening TV Size Furendo fu.re.n.do.shi.ta.i
BPM: 148
Filesize: 3632kb
Play Time: 01:27
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (2.04 stars, 182 notes)
  2. Kantan (1.39 stars, 118 notes)
  3. Muzukashii (2.71 stars, 302 notes)
  4. Oni (3.21 stars, 398 notes)
Download: Gakuen Seikatsu Bu - Friend Shitai
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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#34. #31 taiko mapset ~

学園生活部 - ふ・れ・ん・ど・し・た・
大好き はい!

Kantan 3☆
Futsuu 5☆
Muzukashii 6☆
Oni 7☆

Note
Don't trust the song and the cg style. This anime is darker than you think
climbb65588
DIE好き!☆
OnosakiHito
SPOILER
13:59 aabc271: Ah yes, did you have a quick look of my map yesterday?
13:59 aabc271: Just before I go concentrate on the drawing again, let me ask xD
13:59 OnosakiHito: I forgot. I had so much to do suddenly after that again
13:59 OnosakiHito: and hten I started to map my map
13:59 OnosakiHito: lol
13:59 OnosakiHito: Pm me name of song
13:59 OnosakiHito: I will play
13:59 aabc271: lol
13:59 *aabc271 is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/742015 Gakuen Seikatsu Bu - fu . re . n . do . shi . ta . i]
13:59 aabc271: All 4 diffs done
14:01 aabc271: Why not oni first lol
14:01 OnosakiHito: I dunno
14:04 aabc271: How's it :D
14:05 OnosakiHito: This time I'm not exactly sure if speed ups are needed to be honest.
14:05 OnosakiHito: Especially those single finishers K.
14:05 OnosakiHito: The idea behind this SV change is clear. MIght even fit.
14:05 aabc271: I'm pretty sure they fit
14:05 OnosakiHito: But if you ask me, it doesn't look good.
14:05 OnosakiHito: Because you have three different SVs, which the last one is slower.
14:06 OnosakiHito: And that makes it look a bit inconsistent.
14:06 OnosakiHito: You know. I always valuate patterns by hte value, how it plays, looks and sounds.
14:06 aabc271: Three? I think I have more than that
14:07 OnosakiHito: If one value in my opinion doens't fit, I reconsider these patterns.
14:07 OnosakiHito: Yeah you have. But I mean from
14:07 OnosakiHito: 00:08:067 - first SV
14:07 OnosakiHito: 00:08:472 - second for K
14:07 OnosakiHito: 00:08:878 - third, the slower one, for kiai.
14:07 OnosakiHito: JUst speaking about the timeframe where this one K is present.
14:08 aabc271: Yeah, x1 -> 1.3 -> 1.1
14:08 aabc271: But I don't find this unfitting?
14:09 OnosakiHito: Just personal opinion. I don't say it is wrong.
14:09 OnosakiHito: But if you ask me, it's not a mus.
14:09 OnosakiHito: must*
14:09 aabc271: That hai! in background really worths some emphasis imo
14:09 OnosakiHito: As I said, it may sound and play right. :p
14:09 OnosakiHito: But in my opinion it doesn't look so appealing.
14:09 OnosakiHito: Which doesn't mean it is wrong.
14:10 aabc271: Well, at least that's not usually used in ranked maps too, I know
14:11 aabc271: I also considered first seen difficulty, fitting with song, and so on
14:12 aabc271: And the current setup is what I concluded as fine, at least in my eyes
14:12 aabc271: eg you may not notice that it's x1, 1.3, 1.1 -> 1.1, 1.43, 1.15
14:15 OnosakiHito: 01:12:121 (2,1,2,3,1,2) - Only pattern in Kantan which worried me a bit.
14:15 OnosakiHito: maybe (3) could be removed or be kat?
14:16 OnosakiHito: Because the second don 01:13:540 (2) - seems to be dangerous to me.
14:16 OnosakiHito: Was a bit confusing to me while I was playing.
14:16 OnosakiHito: Due to snapping.
14:17 aabc271: If I have to simplify I'll just remove 01:14:553 (3,1) -
14:17 OnosakiHito: But nothing big. Just wanted to mention it.
14:17 aabc271: First three notes' snapping are consistent with other parts
14:17 OnosakiHito: Hm. I think it would be too much. Suddenly such a big break.
14:18 OnosakiHito: Spread hmmmmmmm
14:18 aabc271: Almost no 1/2 -> short 1/2 -> longer 1/2, almost no 1/4 -> easy oni
14:18 aabc271: I think this is fine?
14:20 OnosakiHito: Can be refined between Muzu and Futsuu a bit. I show you why.
14:20 OnosakiHito: 00:34:824 - Please compare this section in all diffs.
14:21 OnosakiHito: Kantan ≈ Futsuu
14:21 aabc271: I can easily add notes at futsuu if you need
14:21 OnosakiHito: Yes, please.
14:21 OnosakiHito: THat would be great.
14:22 aabc271: Done
14:22 aabc271: Won't add too much to keep futsuu itself balanced
14:22 OnosakiHito: In general, you can have a certain places some 1/2. Just to have a smoother transition to Muzu if you want.
14:23 OnosakiHito: I mean, the spread overall looks fine. Just from Muzu to Futsuu there are some parts which are quite different.
14:23 OnosakiHito: While from Futsuu to Kantan it is nearly the same or at least similar. lol
14:23 OnosakiHito: Once that is fixed...
14:23 OnosakiHito: I think I can bubble
14:23 OnosakiHito: lol
14:23 aabc271: But keep in mind there's still significant combo increase from kantan to futsuu
14:24 aabc271: That's why I'd refrain adding many 1/2s at futsuu
14:24 OnosakiHito: Well, considering the DS fomr K to F and F to M, F to M have a high increase.
14:24 OnosakiHito: Which is due to 1/2 in Muzu of course.
14:25 aabc271: +52%, +70%
14:25 aabc271: Yeah, but it's too hard to be completely perfect
14:25 aabc271: Also difficulty doesn't depend on pure combo only
14:25 OnosakiHito: You know that I don't refere to difficulty by DS. :P
14:26 OnosakiHito: DS is just a little hint. Nothing more.
14:26 aabc271: Yes, that's why I said about "short 1/2 -> long 1/2" thing :3
14:28 OnosakiHito: HP drain rate can be higher
14:29 OnosakiHito: maybe something like
14:29 OnosakiHito: Kantan 8
14:29 OnosakiHito: Futsuu 7
14:29 OnosakiHito: Muzu 6
14:29 OnosakiHito: Oni 5
14:29 OnosakiHito: Maybe you wanna test what the best would be (or calculate).
14:30 aabc271: I don't really like that idea that lower diffs need higher hp, since we need to consider new players' ability
14:30 OnosakiHito: Did the same here: p/4250013
14:30 OnosakiHito: The thing is aabc:
14:30 aabc271: That's what I think more important than the absolute number of misses needed to fail
14:30 OnosakiHito: People only have to pass like 30% of the mapp
14:31 aabc271: Wait, I wanna explode
14:31 aabc271: wc
14:31 aabc271: lol
14:31 OnosakiHito: ok XD
14:31 aabc271: brb sorry
14:38 OnosakiHito: Do you have an source for me?
14:38 OnosakiHito: Because of songl title
14:41 aabc271: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNjHxhljAck
14:41 aabc271: http://puu.sh/j2uk6/e6aadeef28.jpg
14:42 aabc271: http://gakkougurashi.com/staffcast/index.html Proof #2
14:42 aabc271: http://puu.sh/j2unC/7f04ee8b09.jpg
14:44 OnosakiHito: ok
14:45 OnosakiHito: Let me check the diffs one more time. And check also the SV in Oni again.
14:45 aabc271: =w=...
14:45 OnosakiHito: And I think we are ready to go or so.

aabc asked me to play, and map turned out to be pretty good in my opinion, so I gave it some suggestions. Spread from Futsuu to Muzu might appear a bit high, but I think it should be fine overall. So once it reaches 12* I think it is ready to go.
Topic Starter
aabc271

OnosakiHito wrote:

SPOILER
13:59 aabc271: Ah yes, did you have a quick look of my map yesterday?
13:59 aabc271: Just before I go concentrate on the drawing again, let me ask xD
13:59 OnosakiHito: I forgot. I had so much to do suddenly after that again
13:59 OnosakiHito: and hten I started to map my map
13:59 OnosakiHito: lol
13:59 OnosakiHito: Pm me name of song
13:59 OnosakiHito: I will play
13:59 aabc271: lol
13:59 *aabc271 is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/742015 Gakuen Seikatsu Bu - fu . re . n . do . shi . ta . i]
13:59 aabc271: All 4 diffs done
14:01 aabc271: Why not oni first lol
14:01 OnosakiHito: I dunno
14:04 aabc271: How's it :D
14:05 OnosakiHito: This time I'm not exactly sure if speed ups are needed to be honest.
14:05 OnosakiHito: Especially those single finishers K.
14:05 OnosakiHito: The idea behind this SV change is clear. MIght even fit.
14:05 aabc271: I'm pretty sure they fit
14:05 OnosakiHito: But if you ask me, it doesn't look good.
14:05 OnosakiHito: Because you have three different SVs, which the last one is slower.
14:06 OnosakiHito: And that makes it look a bit inconsistent.
14:06 OnosakiHito: You know. I always valuate patterns by hte value, how it plays, looks and sounds.
14:06 aabc271: Three? I think I have more than that
14:07 OnosakiHito: If one value in my opinion doens't fit, I reconsider these patterns.
14:07 OnosakiHito: Yeah you have. But I mean from
14:07 OnosakiHito: 00:08:067 - first SV
14:07 OnosakiHito: 00:08:472 - second for K
14:07 OnosakiHito: 00:08:878 - third, the slower one, for kiai.
14:07 OnosakiHito: JUst speaking about the timeframe where this one K is present.
14:08 aabc271: Yeah, x1 -> 1.3 -> 1.1
14:08 aabc271: But I don't find this unfitting?
14:09 OnosakiHito: Just personal opinion. I don't say it is wrong.
14:09 OnosakiHito: But if you ask me, it's not a mus.
14:09 OnosakiHito: must*
14:09 aabc271: That hai! in background really worths some emphasis imo
14:09 OnosakiHito: As I said, it may sound and play right. :p
14:09 OnosakiHito: But in my opinion it doesn't look so appealing.
14:09 OnosakiHito: Which doesn't mean it is wrong.
14:10 aabc271: Well, at least that's not usually used in ranked maps too, I know
14:11 aabc271: I also considered first seen difficulty, fitting with song, and so on
14:12 aabc271: And the current setup is what I concluded as fine, at least in my eyes
14:12 aabc271: eg you may not notice that it's x1, 1.3, 1.1 -> 1.1, 1.43, 1.15
14:15 OnosakiHito: 01:12:121 (2,1,2,3,1,2) - Only pattern in Kantan which worried me a bit.
14:15 OnosakiHito: maybe (3) could be removed or be kat?
14:16 OnosakiHito: Because the second don 01:13:540 (2) - seems to be dangerous to me.
14:16 OnosakiHito: Was a bit confusing to me while I was playing.
14:16 OnosakiHito: Due to snapping.
14:17 aabc271: If I have to simplify I'll just remove 01:14:553 (3,1) -
14:17 OnosakiHito: But nothing big. Just wanted to mention it.
14:17 aabc271: First three notes' snapping are consistent with other parts
14:17 OnosakiHito: Hm. I think it would be too much. Suddenly such a big break.
14:18 OnosakiHito: Spread hmmmmmmm
14:18 aabc271: Almost no 1/2 -> short 1/2 -> longer 1/2, almost no 1/4 -> easy oni
14:18 aabc271: I think this is fine?
14:20 OnosakiHito: Can be refined between Muzu and Futsuu a bit. I show you why.
14:20 OnosakiHito: 00:34:824 - Please compare this section in all diffs.
14:21 OnosakiHito: Kantan ≈ Futsuu
14:21 aabc271: I can easily add notes at futsuu if you need
14:21 OnosakiHito: Yes, please.
14:21 OnosakiHito: THat would be great.
14:22 aabc271: Done
14:22 aabc271: Won't add too much to keep futsuu itself balanced
14:22 OnosakiHito: In general, you can have a certain places some 1/2. Just to have a smoother transition to Muzu if you want.
14:23 OnosakiHito: I mean, the spread overall looks fine. Just from Muzu to Futsuu there are some parts which are quite different.
14:23 OnosakiHito: While from Futsuu to Kantan it is nearly the same or at least similar. lol
14:23 OnosakiHito: Once that is fixed...
14:23 OnosakiHito: I think I can bubble
14:23 OnosakiHito: lol
14:23 aabc271: But keep in mind there's still significant combo increase from kantan to futsuu
14:24 aabc271: That's why I'd refrain adding many 1/2s at futsuu
14:24 OnosakiHito: Well, considering the DS fomr K to F and F to M, F to M have a high increase.
14:24 OnosakiHito: Which is due to 1/2 in Muzu of course.
14:25 aabc271: +52%, +70%
14:25 aabc271: Yeah, but it's too hard to be completely perfect
14:25 aabc271: Also difficulty doesn't depend on pure combo only
14:25 OnosakiHito: You know that I don't refere to difficulty by DS. :P
14:26 OnosakiHito: DS is just a little hint. Nothing more.
14:26 aabc271: Yes, that's why I said about "short 1/2 -> long 1/2" thing :3
14:28 OnosakiHito: HP drain rate can be higher
14:29 OnosakiHito: maybe something like
14:29 OnosakiHito: Kantan 8
14:29 OnosakiHito: Futsuu 7
14:29 OnosakiHito: Muzu 6
14:29 OnosakiHito: Oni 5
14:29 OnosakiHito: Maybe you wanna test what the best would be (or calculate).
14:30 aabc271: I don't really like that idea that lower diffs need higher hp, since we need to consider new players' ability
14:30 OnosakiHito: Did the same here: p/4250013
14:30 OnosakiHito: The thing is aabc:
14:30 aabc271: That's what I think more important than the absolute number of misses needed to fail
14:30 OnosakiHito: People only have to pass like 30% of the mapp
14:31 aabc271: Wait, I wanna explode
14:31 aabc271: wc
14:31 aabc271: lol
14:31 OnosakiHito: ok XD
14:31 aabc271: brb sorry
14:38 OnosakiHito: Do you have an source for me?
14:38 OnosakiHito: Because of songl title
14:41 aabc271: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNjHxhljAck
14:41 aabc271: http://puu.sh/j2uk6/e6aadeef28.jpg
14:42 aabc271: http://gakkougurashi.com/staffcast/index.html Proof #2
14:42 aabc271: http://puu.sh/j2unC/7f04ee8b09.jpg
14:44 OnosakiHito: ok
14:45 OnosakiHito: Let me check the diffs one more time. And check also the SV in Oni again.
14:45 aabc271: =w=...
14:45 OnosakiHito: And I think we are ready to go or so.

aabc asked me to play, and map turned out to be pretty good in my opinion, so I gave it some suggestions. Spread from Futsuu to Muzu might appear a bit high, but I think it should be fine overall. So once it reaches 12* I think it is ready to go.
As mentioned in the chatlog, I made futsuu slightly denser, double-checked metadata and discussed oni's speedup notes
Will try to get more sp asap, thx for checking :)
Nardoxyribonucleic
IRC mod with aabc, July 17, 2015
20:16 Nardoxyribonucleic: I may help you if you aim for rank w
20:16 *aabc271 is away: Dinner :3
20:16 *Nardoxyribonucleic is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/742015 Gakuen Seikatsu Bu - fu . re . n . do . shi . ta . i]
20:17 Nardoxyribonucleic: quite rare to see that you finished a set
20:17 aabc271: \:D/
20:17 aabc271: Yeah, I'm trying that, but well... =w=
20:17 aabc271: Let's see
20:19 aabc271: You know this anime?
20:19 Nardoxyribonucleic: yeah, I'm watching it
20:19 aabc271: "看完之后有些网友表示要跑去重看《請問您今天要來點兔子嗎?》來治愈一下"
20:20 aabc271: "很多在这之前没有看过原作、只是带着“看萌妹子、百合、萌萌小loli手撕丧尸”的心态追番的网友顿时惨叫一片"
20:20 Nardoxyribonucleic: ww
20:22 Nardoxyribonucleic: I'm immune because I watched something more horrible than this like Brynhildr in the Darkness
20:22 aabc271: So yeah, explosive anime
20:22 aabc271: Fok me
20:22 *aabc271 wants moemoe happy no brain anime but foked
20:23 Nardoxyribonucleic: www
20:55 aabc271: Oh, your star
20:55 aabc271: :D
20:55 aabc271: Thx <3
20:55 Nardoxyribonucleic: :D
21:06 Nardoxyribonucleic: I'm going to mod it. Is the set updated to the newest version?
21:08 aabc271: Yeah, feel free to mod
21:08 aabc271: Thx <333
21:08 aabc271: But as ono said, you guys can't even star/bubble
21:08 aabc271: Because sp not yet 12
21:08 aabc271: lol
21:08 Nardoxyribonucleic: yep so we should reach +12 before bubbling
21:09 Nardoxyribonucleic: aabc is trying to speedrank his map in 3 to 4 days xD
21:10 aabc271: lol I dunno
21:10 aabc271: But I didn't expect things to turn out so well and fast
21:10 Nardoxyribonucleic: because Ono ww
21:10 aabc271: I give to ono -> ono hahahahaha I will mod hahahahahahaha
21:10 aabc271: lol
21:12 Nardoxyribonucleic: btw I'm not sure whether there should be spaces between fu . re . n . do . shi . ta . i
21:12 aabc271: ふ・れ・ん・ど・し・た・い <- Japanese name
21:12 aabc271: That ・ is full size font
21:12 aabc271: But for english one, yeah I'm not sure
21:13 Nardoxyribonucleic: so maybe just fu.re.n.do.shi.ta.i ? idk too
21:16 aabc271: Good question
21:17 aabc271: I asked ono
21:17 aabc271: And he'll help me ask kshr
21:17 aabc271: lol
21:17 Nardoxyribonucleic: ok
21:17 aabc271: What about capital letters? Not needed right?
21:17 Nardoxyribonucleic: would be good to find some metadata experts
21:18 Nardoxyribonucleic: I think so, since the words are rather fragmented
21:19 Nardoxyribonucleic: no capital letters would be okay imo
21:19 Nardoxyribonucleic: let's see what kshr says
21:19 aabc271: =w=b
21:22 Nardoxyribonucleic: Are you free now? I think irc mod would save more time.
21:25 aabc271: Sure
21:25 Nardoxyribonucleic: As the map is generally polished =w=b
21:25 *Nardoxyribonucleic is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/742015 Gakuen Seikatsu Bu - fu . re . n . do . shi . ta . i [Kantan]]
21:25 aabc271: =w=b
21:25 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:20:026 (2) - consider adding finish here to emphasize the stressed sound?
21:26 aabc271: Seems ok but I think 00:18:607 (2,1,2) - are quite similarly stressed?
21:26 aabc271: Also if I add finish that does it collide with 00:21:040 (1) - ?
21:26 Nardoxyribonucleic: I think it is louder at 00:20:026 (2) -
21:27 Nardoxyribonucleic: would be okay since there are considerable spacing (5/2) in between
21:28 Nardoxyribonucleic: what do you think?
21:29 aabc271: It makes sense but then 00:20:026 (2,1,2) - I dunno which notes I'm emphasizing lol
21:30 Nardoxyribonucleic: ok, you may keep it as d then :3
21:30 aabc271: 01:13:540 - Similar things here, I think the later d k actually sounds heavier but I still have no finish there
21:32 Nardoxyribonucleic: okay.
21:33 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:27:324 (1) - move to 00:27:121 - ? I think using 1/1 would make a better spread with Futsuu
21:35 aabc271: ^ That's the only 1/2 in the diff. I'm fine to delete (1) but moving might mislead players?
21:35 aabc271: Because that kk is so obvious lol
21:35 Nardoxyribonucleic: it would be okay for beginners
21:35 Nardoxyribonucleic: 1/2 would be more stressful to them
21:36 aabc271: I think I'll just delete it then
21:36 Nardoxyribonucleic: Also, there is a clear beat at 00:27:121 -
21:36 aabc271: 1.51 -> 1.39 lol star rating
21:37 aabc271: Is it fine if I just keep it empty? Because other 1/1 x3 are following obvious music
21:37 Nardoxyribonucleic: yeah, I'm quite experienced in dealing with the star rating system w
21:37 aabc271: eg 00:23:472 (1,1,1)
21:39 Nardoxyribonucleic: hmm... maybe delete the whole 1/2 kk at 00:27:324 (1,2) - ?
21:39 Nardoxyribonucleic: a 4/1 break will be formed
21:40 Nardoxyribonucleic: after the dense 1st kiai, I think it is good to insert some rest moments
21:40 Nardoxyribonucleic: for Kantan
21:41 aabc271: Possible but I've already done at 00:49:418 -? Also kantan might be then too easy compared with futsuu?
21:42 aabc271: ^ Quieter section
21:42 Nardoxyribonucleic: But the pattern from 00:08:472 - to 00:49:418 - is a bit consecutive
21:42 Nardoxyribonucleic: about 40s x_x
21:43 Nardoxyribonucleic: so one break in between would be nice imo
21:43 Nardoxyribonucleic: a 4/1 break can also emphasize the big kat at 00:28:337 (2) - too
21:45 aabc271: I can delete notes like 00:22:661 (3) -, 00:25:905 (2) -, 00:29:148 (3) -
21:45 aabc271: But is that too much?
21:45 Nardoxyribonucleic: yes, that would be too much...
21:45 aabc271: I'd prefer keeping the hitsound following music, you know
21:46 aabc271: Is this kantan really harder than other ones?
21:47 Nardoxyribonucleic: not really except its continuity
21:47 aabc271: Or what about 00:35:634 (1) -, 00:42:121 (1) - ?
21:47 aabc271: Dunno, it might sound odd lol
21:48 Nardoxyribonucleic: there is vocal, so I think a break within the previous non-vocal section would sound more natural
21:48 Nardoxyribonucleic: also new stanza starts at 00:28:337 -
21:49 Nardoxyribonucleic: A break before that seems to be good
21:50 aabc271: I know your point but I don't really find a good spot to do that...
21:50 aabc271: Am I too persistent?
21:51 Nardoxyribonucleic: a bit ww
21:51 aabc271: No wonder I reject most mods usually
21:51 aabc271: lol
21:51 Nardoxyribonucleic: same for me
21:51 aabc271: But in the past I regreted changing certain mods
21:52 aabc271: When it gets ranked I realised I didn't really like
21:52 aabc271: It sounds arrogant to use the "I'm experienced" argument, but then at the same it hurts people when I reject too much
21:52 aabc271: x_x
21:54 Nardoxyribonucleic: idk, but the 40s session is in fact quite dense compared to most ranked Kantans
21:54 aabc271: Maybe, if you really want to cut it half, delete 00:27:526 (1) -?
21:54 aabc271: It sounds worse to me but I think that's already a better solution
21:55 aabc271: Because background "dkdd kk" is pretty much connected
21:55 Nardoxyribonucleic: quite strange if 00:27:324 (1) - stands alone...
21:55 aabc271: Yes, returns to my point again
21:56 aabc271: 00:24:283 (1,1) - 00:27:526 (1,2) -, 00:30:769 (1,1) -, 00:34:013 (2,1) -
21:56 aabc271: These are the gaps I can hear, but then they're actually same in length with other parts with notes
21:57 aabc271: So somehow they disappear
21:57 Nardoxyribonucleic: I could understand that
21:58 aabc271: Unlike 00:49:418 (6,7) - which I think I don't need explaining
21:59 aabc271: Unless I give up dkd, dkd, DKK, I don't think there're really nice places to add longer rests until ~0:49
22:00 aabc271: Deleting 00:36:851 (1,1) - or 00:37:256 (1) - might be possible but then the consecutive section remains 30s long
22:00 aabc271: ^ Also 00:42:932 -
22:01 Nardoxyribonucleic: ahh... It is not good to struggle for one single suggestion for that long. You can delete 00:27:324 (1) - first, then Ono will reassess it
22:01 Nardoxyribonucleic: but to me one 4/1 break would be nice in between the 40s session
22:03 Nardoxyribonucleic: Is it okay?
22:03 aabc271: For now I updated
22:04 Nardoxyribonucleic: Hope that you are not forced to do that ;w;
22:05 Nardoxyribonucleic: I know it is hard to decide
22:05 aabc271: My decision is simple. You know, I originally put 1/2 kk there
22:05 Nardoxyribonucleic: so at present, you removed the whole 1/2 kk, right?
22:05 aabc271: I'd prefer a compromise of deleting one k but well
22:06 aabc271: Never mind, let's move on
22:06 Nardoxyribonucleic: alright
22:07 aabc271: Kantan 4☆ -> 3☆
22:07 aabc271: -2 combo already so powerful
22:07 Nardoxyribonucleic: yep, because the 1/2 beat is gone...
22:11 Nardoxyribonucleic: Kantan seems to be nice now~
22:11 *Nardoxyribonucleic is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/742011 Gakuen Seikatsu Bu - fu . re . n . do . shi . ta . i [Futsuu]]
22:12 aabc271: Wait, ono is proposing different things
22:14 Nardoxyribonucleic: ok
22:16 aabc271: I'm not trying to argue hard on one single note, but I just noticed 00:20:026 (2,1) - 00:14:351 (1,2) - are actually > 1/1 breaks
22:16 aabc271: Ono suggested deleting some other odd notes instead lol
22:18 Nardoxyribonucleic: ...for example?
22:18 Nardoxyribonucleic: while I think the notes are fine, Ono has a different view
22:18 aabc271: 00:40:499 (1) - this
22:18 aabc271: Deleting this, ono suggested
22:20 Nardoxyribonucleic: hmm it's possible too
22:21 aabc271: I'll just bath for now, brb soon
22:21 aabc271: Leave any mod suggestions here
22:23 Nardoxyribonucleic: So... What is your decision about deletion now?
22:23 *aabc271 is away: Bath :3
22:38 aabc271: Broken Mon a0624701
22:38 aabc271: Oops
22:39 aabc271: I thought the pc was locked
22:39 Nardoxyribonucleic: :O
22:39 aabc271: lol that's my pc unlock password
22:39 aabc271: I thought I locked but didn't
22:41 Nardoxyribonucleic: change pw please (though I cannot break your pc anyway :3
22:42 aabc271: lol I found I typed the numbers wrongly
22:42 aabc271: No worries
22:42 aabc271: Should be some digits left/right
22:43 aabc271: Nardo pro hacker controls my pc
22:43 aabc271: o.O
22:43 Nardoxyribonucleic: lol ww
22:43 Nardoxyribonucleic: 22:23 ^
22:44 aabc271: I think deleting 00:40:499 - is possible, but once again I don't think 40s having 1/1 rests only is really a problem
22:44 aabc271: It's not just whether 1/1 or not but also bpm affects
22:45 aabc271: If it's like 248 of course I agree with you
22:45 aabc271: But I believe 148 is easy enough for most new players
22:46 Nardoxyribonucleic: Yep. Ono dq maps regardless of song bpm x_x Anyway, I should not be so persistent too... Hope that you don't feel unhappy
22:46 aabc271: No why'd I feel unhappy lol
22:46 Nardoxyribonucleic: if I recall correctly according to my BN experience
22:46 aabc271: It's just... my ideas not accepted but since people have reasons, I won't get mad
22:47 Nardoxyribonucleic: 148bpm is not fast to me too.
22:47 Nardoxyribonucleic: the deletion suggestion I pointed out is just a "precaution" to prevent DQ
22:48 Nardoxyribonucleic: so feel free to reject if you don't like
22:48 aabc271: Yeah, but since ono didn't even realise this until I tell him
22:48 Nardoxyribonucleic: quality-wise the Kantan should be okay :3
22:48 aabc271: I wonder if my map would really get dq because of that
22:49 Nardoxyribonucleic: who knows... Remember the DQ reasons I showed you few days ago?
22:49 aabc271: Yes, too amazing x_x
22:50 Nardoxyribonucleic: so nothing is changed atm for Kantan, am I right?
22:50 aabc271: Um... yeah, I'm sorry
22:50 Nardoxyribonucleic: It's fine. Let's move to Futsuu then
22:50 aabc271: Ah no, at least I have no 1/2 kk now
22:50 aabc271: lol
22:51 Nardoxyribonucleic: I see. You applied the deletion of 00:27:324 - ?
22:52 aabc271: Yes
22:52 Nardoxyribonucleic: okay
22:52 Nardoxyribonucleic: that's what I intended too w
22:53 Nardoxyribonucleic: any question till this moment?
22:53 aabc271: Fine, let's go to next diff? :3
22:53 *Nardoxyribonucleic is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/742011 Gakuen Seikatsu Bu - fu . re . n . do . shi . ta . i [Futsuu]]
22:54 Nardoxyribonucleic: nice vocal mapping starts to flow :3
22:55 aabc271: Yeah, my style is hard to show when it's too easy
22:55 aabc271: lol
22:55 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:07:459 (2,3,1) - :3
22:55 Nardoxyribonucleic: owob
22:55 aabc271: owob
23:01 Nardoxyribonucleic: From 00:34:824 - to 00:47:797 - , you may want to use some 1/2 notes since Muzukashii used many of them
23:02 Nardoxyribonucleic: one good spot is 00:40:702 -
23:02 aabc271: Yeah I'm aware of that but had no idea how to add
23:02 Nardoxyribonucleic: add k?
23:02 aabc271: Good
23:02 aabc271: Added
23:03 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:46:580 - add d?
23:04 aabc271: Fine, added
23:07 Nardoxyribonucleic: spread concern also appears from 00:54:283 - to 00:57:526 -
23:08 aabc271: What concern?
23:08 Nardoxyribonucleic: Muzu is full of 1/2 in the session. Maybe try to add a bit more notes as well?
23:10 aabc271: Um
23:10 aabc271: I can make futsuu harder but then kantan is too easy
23:10 aabc271: Or I can make muzu easier but then muzu-oni spread?
23:11 Nardoxyribonucleic: a compromise is to add two notes only, at 00:54:891 - and 00:56:107 - in Futsuu
23:11 Nardoxyribonucleic: don't know it flows good or not x_x
23:12 aabc271: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3401493 Futsuu
23:12 aabc271: D k d D k d K?
23:13 aabc271: What do you think?
23:13 Nardoxyribonucleic: nice enough.
23:13 aabc271: Good, then fixed as shown in screenshot
23:13 Nardoxyribonucleic: ok
23:14 Nardoxyribonucleic: then Kantan uses the previous pattern of Futsuu?
23:14 Nardoxyribonucleic: add k at 00:55:094 - and add d at 00:56:310 -
23:14 aabc271: kk
23:15 Nardoxyribonucleic: the spread would be more even now :3
23:15 aabc271: =w=
23:17 Nardoxyribonucleic: tracing a bit back to 00:16:580 (2) - while k is used there, d is used at 01:10:094 (1) - . Is it intentional?
23:18 Nardoxyribonucleic: personally I would prefer both d =w=
23:19 aabc271: Oh, let me see
23:19 aabc271: Should be d
23:19 aabc271: Fixed
23:19 Nardoxyribonucleic: ok w
23:22 Nardoxyribonucleic: Futsuu is fine now. Breaks are properly inserted according to the music, and nice vocal mapping =w=b
23:23 aabc271: =w=b
23:23 *Nardoxyribonucleic is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/741992 Gakuen Seikatsu Bu - fu . re . n . do . shi . ta . i [Muzukashii]]
23:26 Nardoxyribonucleic: maybe k at 00:10:094 (2) - like 00:09:283 (1) - ? The vocal pitch seems to be the same.
23:28 aabc271: Changed all to kddk ddkd
23:28 aabc271: Totally 6 times I think
23:28 Nardoxyribonucleic: okay
23:28 aabc271: Ah no, 10 times
23:28 aabc271: lol
23:29 aabc271: No wonder why this song so brainwashing
23:29 aabc271: I see the anime -> "Yes I need to map this"
23:29 aabc271: lol
23:29 Nardoxyribonucleic: repeating the same rhythm would be catchy ww
23:30 aabc271: Feature of happy no brain anime
23:30 aabc271: But again this foks me
23:31 Nardoxyribonucleic: 2 in 1st kiai, 4 from 00:21:851 - to 00:34:824 - , and 4 in 2nd kiai?
23:31 aabc271: Yes
23:31 aabc271: So 10
23:31 aabc271: Brainwash song
23:41 aabc271: Um, you're still here right? lol
23:41 Nardoxyribonucleic: yes
23:43 Nardoxyribonucleic: no problem for Muzu now lol
23:43 Nardoxyribonucleic: so consistent
23:43 aabc271: :D
23:44 *Nardoxyribonucleic is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/738739 Gakuen Seikatsu Bu - fu . re . n . do . shi . ta . i [Oni]]
23:44 aabc271: Finally oni
23:44 aabc271: :D
23:45 aabc271: 00:28:337 - Maybe I should add finish? (Consistency with muzu?)
23:45 Nardoxyribonucleic: my modding speed is rather slow, sorry for any inconvenience ;w;
23:45 aabc271: Take your time =w=
23:45 aabc271: I'm usually slower
23:45 aabc271: irc mod always takes me hours
23:45 Nardoxyribonucleic: yeah, please add it
23:47 aabc271: Done
23:51 Nardoxyribonucleic: at this level, the kat at 00:09:283 - can be kept imo
23:51 Nardoxyribonucleic: which fits the clapping sound well
23:51 aabc271: Yes, different from 1/2 only
23:51 aabc271: k ddk k sounds better than k ddd k
00:03 Nardoxyribonucleic: I think that's all :3
00:03 aabc271: \:D/
00:03 Nardoxyribonucleic: nice and consistent Oni as usual
00:03 aabc271: =w=b
00:04 aabc271: I'll update
00:04 Nardoxyribonucleic: ok, I'll recheck all the things afterwards
00:04 aabc271: Done
00:05 Nardoxyribonucleic: what about song title now? any suggestion from kshr?
00:05 aabc271: Oh, ono is offline
00:05 aabc271: Baka him
00:05 aabc271: D:
00:06 Nardoxyribonucleic: no problem, I'll leave that issue to him
00:06 aabc271: So we don't have to care that for now?
00:06 Nardoxyribonucleic: maybe I add a sidenote on my post regarding it?
00:07 Nardoxyribonucleic: so Ono will take care of it
00:08 aabc271: If you like :3
00:17 Nardoxyribonucleic: The set looks fine now
00:17 Nardoxyribonucleic: I'll post the irc mod~
00:17 aabc271: k thx <3

The set seems to be fine now.
@Ono: About the romanized song title, I think "fu.re.n.do.shi.ta.i" would be better. Please ask some metadata experts like KSHR to confirm with this >.<

EDIT: Bubbled~
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Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

IRC mod with aabc, July 17, 2015
20:16 Nardoxyribonucleic: I may help you if you aim for rank w
20:16 *aabc271 is away: Dinner :3
20:16 *Nardoxyribonucleic is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/742015 Gakuen Seikatsu Bu - fu . re . n . do . shi . ta . i]
20:17 Nardoxyribonucleic: quite rare to see that you finished a set
20:17 aabc271: \:D/
20:17 aabc271: Yeah, I'm trying that, but well... =w=
20:17 aabc271: Let's see
20:19 aabc271: You know this anime?
20:19 Nardoxyribonucleic: yeah, I'm watching it
20:19 aabc271: "看完之后有些网友表示要跑去重看《請問您今天要來點兔子嗎?》來治愈一下"
20:20 aabc271: "很多在这之前没有看过原作、只是带着“看萌妹子、百合、萌萌小loli手撕丧尸”的心态追番的网友顿时惨叫一片"
20:20 Nardoxyribonucleic: ww
20:22 Nardoxyribonucleic: I'm immune because I watched something more horrible than this like Brynhildr in the Darkness
20:22 aabc271: So yeah, explosive anime
20:22 aabc271: Fok me
20:22 *aabc271 wants moemoe happy no brain anime but foked
20:23 Nardoxyribonucleic: www
20:55 aabc271: Oh, your star
20:55 aabc271: :D
20:55 aabc271: Thx <3
20:55 Nardoxyribonucleic: :D
21:06 Nardoxyribonucleic: I'm going to mod it. Is the set updated to the newest version?
21:08 aabc271: Yeah, feel free to mod
21:08 aabc271: Thx <333
21:08 aabc271: But as ono said, you guys can't even star/bubble
21:08 aabc271: Because sp not yet 12
21:08 aabc271: lol
21:08 Nardoxyribonucleic: yep so we should reach +12 before bubbling
21:09 Nardoxyribonucleic: aabc is trying to speedrank his map in 3 to 4 days xD
21:10 aabc271: lol I dunno
21:10 aabc271: But I didn't expect things to turn out so well and fast
21:10 Nardoxyribonucleic: because Ono ww
21:10 aabc271: I give to ono -> ono hahahahaha I will mod hahahahahahaha
21:10 aabc271: lol
21:12 Nardoxyribonucleic: btw I'm not sure whether there should be spaces between fu . re . n . do . shi . ta . i
21:12 aabc271: ふ・れ・ん・ど・し・た・い <- Japanese name
21:12 aabc271: That ・ is full size font
21:12 aabc271: But for english one, yeah I'm not sure
21:13 Nardoxyribonucleic: so maybe just fu.re.n.do.shi.ta.i ? idk too
21:16 aabc271: Good question
21:17 aabc271: I asked ono
21:17 aabc271: And he'll help me ask kshr
21:17 aabc271: lol
21:17 Nardoxyribonucleic: ok
21:17 aabc271: What about capital letters? Not needed right?
21:17 Nardoxyribonucleic: would be good to find some metadata experts
21:18 Nardoxyribonucleic: I think so, since the words are rather fragmented
21:19 Nardoxyribonucleic: no capital letters would be okay imo
21:19 Nardoxyribonucleic: let's see what kshr says
21:19 aabc271: =w=b
21:22 Nardoxyribonucleic: Are you free now? I think irc mod would save more time.
21:25 aabc271: Sure
21:25 Nardoxyribonucleic: As the map is generally polished =w=b
21:25 *Nardoxyribonucleic is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/742015 Gakuen Seikatsu Bu - fu . re . n . do . shi . ta . i [Kantan]]
21:25 aabc271: =w=b
21:25 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:20:026 (2) - consider adding finish here to emphasize the stressed sound?
21:26 aabc271: Seems ok but I think 00:18:607 (2,1,2) - are quite similarly stressed?
21:26 aabc271: Also if I add finish that does it collide with 00:21:040 (1) - ?
21:26 Nardoxyribonucleic: I think it is louder at 00:20:026 (2) -
21:27 Nardoxyribonucleic: would be okay since there are considerable spacing (5/2) in between
21:28 Nardoxyribonucleic: what do you think?
21:29 aabc271: It makes sense but then 00:20:026 (2,1,2) - I dunno which notes I'm emphasizing lol
21:30 Nardoxyribonucleic: ok, you may keep it as d then :3
21:30 aabc271: 01:13:540 - Similar things here, I think the later d k actually sounds heavier but I still have no finish there
21:32 Nardoxyribonucleic: okay.
21:33 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:27:324 (1) - move to 00:27:121 - ? I think using 1/1 would make a better spread with Futsuu
21:35 aabc271: ^ That's the only 1/2 in the diff. I'm fine to delete (1) but moving might mislead players?
21:35 aabc271: Because that kk is so obvious lol
21:35 Nardoxyribonucleic: it would be okay for beginners
21:35 Nardoxyribonucleic: 1/2 would be more stressful to them
21:36 aabc271: I think I'll just delete it then
21:36 Nardoxyribonucleic: Also, there is a clear beat at 00:27:121 -
21:36 aabc271: 1.51 -> 1.39 lol star rating
21:37 aabc271: Is it fine if I just keep it empty? Because other 1/1 x3 are following obvious music
21:37 Nardoxyribonucleic: yeah, I'm quite experienced in dealing with the star rating system w
21:37 aabc271: eg 00:23:472 (1,1,1)
21:39 Nardoxyribonucleic: hmm... maybe delete the whole 1/2 kk at 00:27:324 (1,2) - ?
21:39 Nardoxyribonucleic: a 4/1 break will be formed
21:40 Nardoxyribonucleic: after the dense 1st kiai, I think it is good to insert some rest moments
21:40 Nardoxyribonucleic: for Kantan
21:41 aabc271: Possible but I've already done at 00:49:418 -? Also kantan might be then too easy compared with futsuu?
21:42 aabc271: ^ Quieter section
21:42 Nardoxyribonucleic: But the pattern from 00:08:472 - to 00:49:418 - is a bit consecutive
21:42 Nardoxyribonucleic: about 40s x_x
21:43 Nardoxyribonucleic: so one break in between would be nice imo
21:43 Nardoxyribonucleic: a 4/1 break can also emphasize the big kat at 00:28:337 (2) - too
21:45 aabc271: I can delete notes like 00:22:661 (3) -, 00:25:905 (2) -, 00:29:148 (3) -
21:45 aabc271: But is that too much?
21:45 Nardoxyribonucleic: yes, that would be too much...
21:45 aabc271: I'd prefer keeping the hitsound following music, you know
21:46 aabc271: Is this kantan really harder than other ones?
21:47 Nardoxyribonucleic: not really except its continuity
21:47 aabc271: Or what about 00:35:634 (1) -, 00:42:121 (1) - ?
21:47 aabc271: Dunno, it might sound odd lol
21:48 Nardoxyribonucleic: there is vocal, so I think a break within the previous non-vocal section would sound more natural
21:48 Nardoxyribonucleic: also new stanza starts at 00:28:337 -
21:49 Nardoxyribonucleic: A break before that seems to be good
21:50 aabc271: I know your point but I don't really find a good spot to do that...
21:50 aabc271: Am I too persistent?
21:51 Nardoxyribonucleic: a bit ww
21:51 aabc271: No wonder I reject most mods usually
21:51 aabc271: lol
21:51 Nardoxyribonucleic: same for me
21:51 aabc271: But in the past I regreted changing certain mods
21:52 aabc271: When it gets ranked I realised I didn't really like
21:52 aabc271: It sounds arrogant to use the "I'm experienced" argument, but then at the same it hurts people when I reject too much
21:52 aabc271: x_x
21:54 Nardoxyribonucleic: idk, but the 40s session is in fact quite dense compared to most ranked Kantans
21:54 aabc271: Maybe, if you really want to cut it half, delete 00:27:526 (1) -?
21:54 aabc271: It sounds worse to me but I think that's already a better solution
21:55 aabc271: Because background "dkdd kk" is pretty much connected
21:55 Nardoxyribonucleic: quite strange if 00:27:324 (1) - stands alone...
21:55 aabc271: Yes, returns to my point again
21:56 aabc271: 00:24:283 (1,1) - 00:27:526 (1,2) -, 00:30:769 (1,1) -, 00:34:013 (2,1) -
21:56 aabc271: These are the gaps I can hear, but then they're actually same in length with other parts with notes
21:57 aabc271: So somehow they disappear
21:57 Nardoxyribonucleic: I could understand that
21:58 aabc271: Unlike 00:49:418 (6,7) - which I think I don't need explaining
21:59 aabc271: Unless I give up dkd, dkd, DKK, I don't think there're really nice places to add longer rests until ~0:49
22:00 aabc271: Deleting 00:36:851 (1,1) - or 00:37:256 (1) - might be possible but then the consecutive section remains 30s long
22:00 aabc271: ^ Also 00:42:932 -
22:01 Nardoxyribonucleic: ahh... It is not good to struggle for one single suggestion for that long. You can delete 00:27:324 (1) - first, then Ono will reassess it
22:01 Nardoxyribonucleic: but to me one 4/1 break would be nice in between the 40s session
22:03 Nardoxyribonucleic: Is it okay?
22:03 aabc271: For now I updated
22:04 Nardoxyribonucleic: Hope that you are not forced to do that ;w;
22:05 Nardoxyribonucleic: I know it is hard to decide
22:05 aabc271: My decision is simple. You know, I originally put 1/2 kk there
22:05 Nardoxyribonucleic: so at present, you removed the whole 1/2 kk, right?
22:05 aabc271: I'd prefer a compromise of deleting one k but well
22:06 aabc271: Never mind, let's move on
22:06 Nardoxyribonucleic: alright
22:07 aabc271: Kantan 4☆ -> 3☆
22:07 aabc271: -2 combo already so powerful
22:07 Nardoxyribonucleic: yep, because the 1/2 beat is gone...
22:11 Nardoxyribonucleic: Kantan seems to be nice now~
22:11 *Nardoxyribonucleic is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/742011 Gakuen Seikatsu Bu - fu . re . n . do . shi . ta . i [Futsuu]]
22:12 aabc271: Wait, ono is proposing different things
22:14 Nardoxyribonucleic: ok
22:16 aabc271: I'm not trying to argue hard on one single note, but I just noticed 00:20:026 (2,1) - 00:14:351 (1,2) - are actually > 1/1 breaks
22:16 aabc271: Ono suggested deleting some other odd notes instead lol
22:18 Nardoxyribonucleic: ...for example?
22:18 Nardoxyribonucleic: while I think the notes are fine, Ono has a different view
22:18 aabc271: 00:40:499 (1) - this
22:18 aabc271: Deleting this, ono suggested
22:20 Nardoxyribonucleic: hmm it's possible too
22:21 aabc271: I'll just bath for now, brb soon
22:21 aabc271: Leave any mod suggestions here
22:23 Nardoxyribonucleic: So... What is your decision about deletion now?
22:23 *aabc271 is away: Bath :3
22:38 aabc271: Broken Mon a0624701
22:38 aabc271: Oops
22:39 aabc271: I thought the pc was locked
22:39 Nardoxyribonucleic: :O
22:39 aabc271: lol that's my pc unlock password
22:39 aabc271: I thought I locked but didn't
22:41 Nardoxyribonucleic: change pw please (though I cannot break your pc anyway :3
22:42 aabc271: lol I found I typed the numbers wrongly
22:42 aabc271: No worries
22:42 aabc271: Should be some digits left/right
22:43 aabc271: Nardo pro hacker controls my pc
22:43 aabc271: o.O
22:43 Nardoxyribonucleic: lol ww
22:43 Nardoxyribonucleic: 22:23 ^
22:44 aabc271: I think deleting 00:40:499 - is possible, but once again I don't think 40s having 1/1 rests only is really a problem
22:44 aabc271: It's not just whether 1/1 or not but also bpm affects
22:45 aabc271: If it's like 248 of course I agree with you
22:45 aabc271: But I believe 148 is easy enough for most new players
22:46 Nardoxyribonucleic: Yep. Ono dq maps regardless of song bpm x_x Anyway, I should not be so persistent too... Hope that you don't feel unhappy
22:46 aabc271: No why'd I feel unhappy lol
22:46 Nardoxyribonucleic: if I recall correctly according to my BN experience
22:46 aabc271: It's just... my ideas not accepted but since people have reasons, I won't get mad
22:47 Nardoxyribonucleic: 148bpm is not fast to me too.
22:47 Nardoxyribonucleic: the deletion suggestion I pointed out is just a "precaution" to prevent DQ
22:48 Nardoxyribonucleic: so feel free to reject if you don't like
22:48 aabc271: Yeah, but since ono didn't even realise this until I tell him
22:48 Nardoxyribonucleic: quality-wise the Kantan should be okay :3
22:48 aabc271: I wonder if my map would really get dq because of that
22:49 Nardoxyribonucleic: who knows... Remember the DQ reasons I showed you few days ago?
22:49 aabc271: Yes, too amazing x_x
22:50 Nardoxyribonucleic: so nothing is changed atm for Kantan, am I right?
22:50 aabc271: Um... yeah, I'm sorry
22:50 Nardoxyribonucleic: It's fine. Let's move to Futsuu then
22:50 aabc271: Ah no, at least I have no 1/2 kk now
22:50 aabc271: lol
22:51 Nardoxyribonucleic: I see. You applied the deletion of 00:27:324 - ?
22:52 aabc271: Yes
22:52 Nardoxyribonucleic: okay
22:52 Nardoxyribonucleic: that's what I intended too w
22:53 Nardoxyribonucleic: any question till this moment?
22:53 aabc271: Fine, let's go to next diff? :3
22:53 *Nardoxyribonucleic is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/742011 Gakuen Seikatsu Bu - fu . re . n . do . shi . ta . i [Futsuu]]
22:54 Nardoxyribonucleic: nice vocal mapping starts to flow :3
22:55 aabc271: Yeah, my style is hard to show when it's too easy
22:55 aabc271: lol
22:55 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:07:459 (2,3,1) - :3
22:55 Nardoxyribonucleic: owob
22:55 aabc271: owob
23:01 Nardoxyribonucleic: From 00:34:824 - to 00:47:797 - , you may want to use some 1/2 notes since Muzukashii used many of them
23:02 Nardoxyribonucleic: one good spot is 00:40:702 -
23:02 aabc271: Yeah I'm aware of that but had no idea how to add
23:02 Nardoxyribonucleic: add k?
23:02 aabc271: Good
23:02 aabc271: Added
23:03 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:46:580 - add d?
23:04 aabc271: Fine, added
23:07 Nardoxyribonucleic: spread concern also appears from 00:54:283 - to 00:57:526 -
23:08 aabc271: What concern?
23:08 Nardoxyribonucleic: Muzu is full of 1/2 in the session. Maybe try to add a bit more notes as well?
23:10 aabc271: Um
23:10 aabc271: I can make futsuu harder but then kantan is too easy
23:10 aabc271: Or I can make muzu easier but then muzu-oni spread?
23:11 Nardoxyribonucleic: a compromise is to add two notes only, at 00:54:891 - and 00:56:107 - in Futsuu
23:11 Nardoxyribonucleic: don't know it flows good or not x_x
23:12 aabc271: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3401493 Futsuu
23:12 aabc271: D k d D k d K?
23:13 aabc271: What do you think?
23:13 Nardoxyribonucleic: nice enough.
23:13 aabc271: Good, then fixed as shown in screenshot
23:13 Nardoxyribonucleic: ok
23:14 Nardoxyribonucleic: then Kantan uses the previous pattern of Futsuu?
23:14 Nardoxyribonucleic: add k at 00:55:094 - and add d at 00:56:310 -
23:14 aabc271: kk
23:15 Nardoxyribonucleic: the spread would be more even now :3
23:15 aabc271: =w=
23:17 Nardoxyribonucleic: tracing a bit back to 00:16:580 (2) - while k is used there, d is used at 01:10:094 (1) - . Is it intentional?
23:18 Nardoxyribonucleic: personally I would prefer both d =w=
23:19 aabc271: Oh, let me see
23:19 aabc271: Should be d
23:19 aabc271: Fixed
23:19 Nardoxyribonucleic: ok w
23:22 Nardoxyribonucleic: Futsuu is fine now. Breaks are properly inserted according to the music, and nice vocal mapping =w=b
23:23 aabc271: =w=b
23:23 *Nardoxyribonucleic is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/741992 Gakuen Seikatsu Bu - fu . re . n . do . shi . ta . i [Muzukashii]]
23:26 Nardoxyribonucleic: maybe k at 00:10:094 (2) - like 00:09:283 (1) - ? The vocal pitch seems to be the same.
23:28 aabc271: Changed all to kddk ddkd
23:28 aabc271: Totally 6 times I think
23:28 Nardoxyribonucleic: okay
23:28 aabc271: Ah no, 10 times
23:28 aabc271: lol
23:29 aabc271: No wonder why this song so brainwashing
23:29 aabc271: I see the anime -> "Yes I need to map this"
23:29 aabc271: lol
23:29 Nardoxyribonucleic: repeating the same rhythm would be catchy ww
23:30 aabc271: Feature of happy no brain anime
23:30 aabc271: But again this foks me
23:31 Nardoxyribonucleic: 2 in 1st kiai, 4 from 00:21:851 - to 00:34:824 - , and 4 in 2nd kiai?
23:31 aabc271: Yes
23:31 aabc271: So 10
23:31 aabc271: Brainwash song
23:41 aabc271: Um, you're still here right? lol
23:41 Nardoxyribonucleic: yes
23:43 Nardoxyribonucleic: no problem for Muzu now lol
23:43 Nardoxyribonucleic: so consistent
23:43 aabc271: :D
23:44 *Nardoxyribonucleic is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/738739 Gakuen Seikatsu Bu - fu . re . n . do . shi . ta . i [Oni]]
23:44 aabc271: Finally oni
23:44 aabc271: :D
23:45 aabc271: 00:28:337 - Maybe I should add finish? (Consistency with muzu?)
23:45 Nardoxyribonucleic: my modding speed is rather slow, sorry for any inconvenience ;w;
23:45 aabc271: Take your time =w=
23:45 aabc271: I'm usually slower
23:45 aabc271: irc mod always takes me hours
23:45 Nardoxyribonucleic: yeah, please add it
23:47 aabc271: Done
23:51 Nardoxyribonucleic: at this level, the kat at 00:09:283 - can be kept imo
23:51 Nardoxyribonucleic: which fits the clapping sound well
23:51 aabc271: Yes, different from 1/2 only
23:51 aabc271: k ddk k sounds better than k ddd k
00:03 Nardoxyribonucleic: I think that's all :3
00:03 aabc271: \:D/
00:03 Nardoxyribonucleic: nice and consistent Oni as usual
00:03 aabc271: =w=b
00:04 aabc271: I'll update
00:04 Nardoxyribonucleic: ok, I'll recheck all the things afterwards
00:04 aabc271: Done
00:05 Nardoxyribonucleic: what about song title now? any suggestion from kshr?
00:05 aabc271: Oh, ono is offline
00:05 aabc271: Baka him
00:05 aabc271: D:
00:06 Nardoxyribonucleic: no problem, I'll leave that issue to him
00:06 aabc271: So we don't have to care that for now?
00:06 Nardoxyribonucleic: maybe I add a sidenote on my post regarding it?
00:07 Nardoxyribonucleic: so Ono will take care of it
00:08 aabc271: If you like :3
00:17 Nardoxyribonucleic: The set looks fine now
00:17 Nardoxyribonucleic: I'll post the irc mod~
00:17 aabc271: k thx <3

The set seems to be fine now.
@Ono: About the romanized song title, I think "fu.re.n.do.shi.ta.i" would be better. Please ask some metadata experts like KSHR to confirm with this >.<
As shown in the chatlog, fixed various minor issues in kantan and futsuu. Disabled widescreen support and waiting for final metadata check
Thx for checking this :)

Edit: Asking for final metadata check. Will update if changes are needed
Edit2: Changed one minor hitsound in muzu (01:17:391 -) so the bubble is popped. No other things changed

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Edit3: Changed title to "Friend Shitai", as suggested by KSHR and supported by alacat
Since he does not want his reply to be posted here, I'll briefly explain the reasons below
Reasons

Ranking Criteria - Metadata wrote:

From https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Ranking_Criteria#Metadata
Songs with Japanese titles must use the Modified Hepburn method of romanisation in the "Romanised Title" field. As a non-unicode field, long vowels such as "おう" and "うう" should be romanised into "ou" and "uu" to avoid macrons. Loan words should be expressed using romanisation from the original language.
In other words, "ふれんど" should be expressed in English ("Friend"), since ふれんど is Japanese loan words
Also, as mentioned by KSHR, since head letters of nouns/verbs/adjectives are mostly capitalized, I think it's fine to do so for both words

As for the dots "・", I'm taking KSHR's example "Sharlo - 寝・逃・げでリセット!"as a reference
Unlike common Japanese punctuation like 、 and 。, ・ is rarely used and as we know there is no symbol that directly translates into ・
That's why he suggested not adding ・ in Romanised title, leaving it as "Friend Shitai"

As said by KSHR, since it is only his opinion, I won't mind changing to other title if reasonable justifications are given
Also I'll ask a few more people just to be sure :3
Nardoxyribonucleic
Talked with aabc to change a minor pattern in Oni for the sake of consistency. As the romanized title was confirmed, the set is fine now.

Rebubbled~
OnosakiHito
AImod doesn't show anything. Looking at the beatmap it seems to be fine. KSHR and alacat also checked the metadata.
It should be fine on it's current state. Let's see what the other QATs will say.

Qualified
(I expect to do the same for many other Taiko maps)

This can be seen as example how the TMT would work @ BNs (though, it's not sure yet if it gets ranked of course).
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