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Eiko Shimamiya - Higurashi no Naku Koro ni

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Okoratu
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Okoratu
I don't particularly pay attention to blankets when mapping because i don't care and sometimes prefer how it looks without a blanket lol.

Avishay wrote:

Holy shit, the hitsounds are pretty darn good. yay!

[HANGE HARE HARE E]
  1. 00:01:120 (1,2) - Is this supposed to be a blanket? :s If yes, try again.-. ok these were supposed to be so i tried again
  2. 00:10:262 (1,2,3) - Wouldn't lower spacing look nicer? http://puu.sh/nf4VV/5308f31e30.jpg even spacing would probably look nicer so i did that
  3. 00:17:977 (3) - Consider a quiet triplet instead of a reverse. these wobbly sounds are very likely unsnapped so i'd rather have this simple reverse instead
  4. 00:25:992 (1,4) - Why not blanket those instead of the current awkward placement? :O nah this dosn't need a blanket, i increased visual spacing between these to address your issue a bit
  5. 00:37:134 (8) - I had an odd feeling while playing this, you are putting unnecessary pressure on this note, it's almost non-existent in the song, try this pattern instead http://puu.sh/nf5ky/331a30a820.jpg a stack would work too a slider doesn't work for sure also i don't want to stack since the next note on the blue tick has some emphasis, so i reduced spacing slightly
  6. 00:52:563 (4,5,6,1) - I suggest this pattern - http://puu.sh/nf5vZ/bc63524e6c.jpg Avoids the slightly awkward gap after the slider, plays pretty good. what? why? the rhythm like this is intentional :x
  7. 00:55:563 (2,1) - Can't really enjoy the movement here ._. I'd understand if the slider started at around x11 y16 to go along with the previous pairs, but the current placement is a bit harsh, especially with the fast and long slider. it's that harsh to emphasise vocals and cymbal crash in that place also it plays quite naturally to me so i don't really know what's wrong lol
  8. 01:33:242 (2) - Seems like you intended to put the slider head at a 1/16 tick, so might want to fix that, however current pattern is kinda lame and I'd prefer a spinner over what's there now, an alternative would be snapping sliderend and sliderhead to 1/4 and adding a circle at the red tick, creating some better playability. circle on red tick goes against my intended simplicity and spinners were my least favourite gameplay element because they require literally no rhythm when playing
  9. 01:46:277 (2,4) - OVERLAP TRIGGERED these didn't even overlap they were just somewhat close
  10. 01:55:849 (4,6) - ^ okkk
  11. 01:58:849 (5) - Same as 00:52:563 (4) -, it probably exists a few more times somewhere, so if you liked it, change those too. answer is same
  12. 02:06:563 (1) - Rotate the slider clockwise a bit, or change the shape, movement from previous circle is mehh. yeah!
  13. 02:10:849 (1,2,1) - Looks fancy, but do you really think the playability in the overall pattern is well? yes i think this works well enough with my intentions (same as the last long slider you didn't seem to really like)
  14. 02:47:563 (9,1) - CTRL+G is nicer, even though spacing is decreased a bit, the movement pays off with the better emphasization towards the last note. emphasis of last note is fine currently, i think you dislike the somewhat linear movement which i will consider changing when someone else brings this pattern up as well because right now i prefer mine because it does the same thing as 01:31:706 (6,7,8,9,1) - in a more varied way
  15. 03:35:134 (7,8,9,10) - First time I see you are doing something like that in this diff ;o 01:15:706 (8,9,10,11) - 01:20:277 (7,8,9,10) - 02:33:420 (8,9,10,11) - o.o Although I'd prefer something like placing 03:35:563 (10) - at around x208 y48 and rotating 03:35:706 (1) - counterclockwise a bit. uhh uhhh i don't see why i should do that
  16. 03:40:134 (10) - Higher placement, like at x40 y184 would transit nicer into the next slider. done, this is nicer indeed
  17. 04:00:849 (1,2) - Same suggestion as before, but what do you say about a slight different looking pattern? uh idk not sure yet
I bet you want me to mod the other diffs too, I'll do that, but later, hopefully I won't forget lol.
I realise some parts can be more balanced in terms of volume, i will work on that on each diff individually during the modding process so if you see an update on your diff and don't know why it's probably volumes
thanks!
Endaris
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Endaris
Hi there, finally getting to it!

Easy Collab

So first of all this diff is incredibly sexy in general. I looked at it on Saturday to get a first impression and I immediately felt the urge to throw a star because it's so cool.
I see slight spread-issues though as the rhythm is very difficult for an Easy-Diff actually even more difficult than in the Normal due to the use of active 1/4 snaps especially coupled with the rhythmic shift to the 1/2 snap at the end of the pattern while the Normal only uses 1/4 on inactive snaps.
Short practical elaboration:
With 00:19:135 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - you teach the player to expect the 1/4 correctly. This is pretty cool.
Then you repeat the patterns like 3 or 4 times and then boom:
00:35:134 (1,2) - Suddenly the slider is on a 1/2 snap.
And then 00:38:420 (2) - immediately 1/4 snap again.
It is questionable whether you can expect a new player to correctly read it based on distance or not. I'd say he can't but yeah, that one isn't related to quality of the diff itself.

Upon taking a closer look I still found some things to adress though!
  1. 00:36:849 (3) - I don't think reducing volume to 40% is enough here. There is a very clear reset in all parts of the instrumentalisation here, in fact it's completely left out by the music. Making it a circle would also ease the transition between the two parts so I would strongly suggest leaving the red tick empty!
  1. 00:37:420 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - This looks like an inconsistent pattern to me. I can easily hear what the first refers to but it's hard to tell what the second one is going on about and especially why it is different. If you say that you want to bring out vocals here I have to ask why you didn't do it at the first pattern. Decide on one thing to follow here please. I suppose you can use a different pattern for this spot elsewhere but I think it would be good if you kept it consistent in one place. It doesn't fit together like that *paraphrasing intensifies*
  1. 00:55:706 (1,2,3) - This looks like something you would map in a hard-dif. 00:56:563 (2) - to connect the held sounds is kind of overkill at this level and takes away a significant amount of drag-feeling from the first slider. I suggest extending that one to 3/2.
  1. 00:59:134 (2,3,1,2,3,4) - I'm not satisfied with this pattern. The sliderend of the first slider after NC feels very awkward and the vocal accent at 01:01:992 - is only lightly represented too. On top of it you miss out on 00:59:563 - even though it's easily achieveable considering that you're going for vocals in this part.

    Here are the options I could think of
    Pretending to follow the background chords while the vocal volume is low

    Pretending to be a drummer while the vocal volume is low

    I prefer the first one but you can probably make something up by yourself too.
  1. 01:04:277 (6) - I'd make this a single to contrast the note after. It feels weird if you drag this note into the note that you actually want to give a dragged feeling. The white tick also has some kind of finish sound while the red tick only gets some repercussions of that+a bit of drum so this would perfectly make sense to me.
  1. 01:06:277 (2) - Vocals suggest a repeatslider? It's kind of similar to the one above as repeatsliders don't give a strong drag-feeling either. And you did it at 01:08:563 (4) - too
  1. 01:10:563 - I want to click this note so much. pls let me D:
    Maybe this?

    Or this? \:

    (The vocal kind blurs a lot into red despite being on blue lol)
    Or

    Probably unrankable due to recovery though and having the Kiai delayed would suck.
  1. 01:21:134 (1,2,3) - I think this is the pattern variation I already disliked before? I think varying the pattern for the end of this Kiai phrase is a good idea but it is not good if you break up the one rhythmic pattern that makes this song so characteristic

    I mean you even broke with common Easy-diff mapping rules before just to actively integrate this into the player's actions. So why not

    The pattern stays the same but it plays considerably different by leaving active breaks and involving the active blue snap tap again which is what you wanted to achieve as far as I've seen. (?)
    There are different methods to vary here too and one of the other options I'd like you to consider is mapping less dense in terms of holding keys down
    If you shift more attention to the drums(which doesn't matter for vocals because they align here) you could split the sliders like 01:15:706 (3) - into circles(and merge the latter one to a slider) as the drumpattern doesn't really suggest a slider
  1. 01:27:992 (1,2,3,4) - same
  1. 01:30:277 (1,2,3) - Map this closer to the vocals to prepare the long slider?
It looks like all of you mapped one part and its repititions+Kiai with a set pattern so I'll just leave it like that as I would just repeat myself.

Oh wait, BRIDGE

  1. 02:58:563 (3) - Split this into separate circles? Or maybe 1/2 slider + single? The sliderend is very strong with drumbeat and very audible chordchange and it's the only downbeat you skipped in this introsection for no apparent reason.
  1. 03:08:277 (1,2) - This is so unintuitive. Remember this is an Easy-Diff? Unlike previously you didn't introduce this pattern via repeatsliders first nor is it what I would see as the obvious and intuitive pattern here.
    Opposed to 03:07:134 (3) - where you skip a drumbeat for piano you favor drums over piano here which doesn't make any sense. On top of it the drums are way too dense in this part so you can't properly follow it which is exactly why this turns out to be unintuitive, there's no clear lead which notes to take
  1. 03:15:134 (1,2) - Same but a lot less bad since there isn't a repeatslider before it that ruins the logic. Still, blue snap out of nothing is a NO on Easy-Diffs unless the context absolutely calls for it and in my opinion it clearly does not.
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  1. 04:08:706 (2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - Is there any reasons to leave out the repeatsliders for blue ticks here? I found that very reassuring on the first part and would love to see it here too.


Noz' Normal
  1. 00:25:992 (1,2,3,4) - I would suggest removing 4 as that creates at least SOME tension that is completely absent right now and also plays nicely towards the finish. Right now this feels fairly flat and uninteresting which doesn't match the music.
  1. 00:39:134 (4) - I think the downbeat deserves much more attention than the blue tick here as both vocals and drums have their strongest point on it. If the spread wasn't already so inbalanced I would suggest splitting it into 2 separate sliders 1/4 apart.
^ both of these throughout the whole thing
  1. 01:01:420 (7) - Remove for buildup tension?
  1. 01:03:706 - this one too? (make the end a single or something?)
  1. 01:21:706 (3) - whyyy
    You're missing about everything here that's important, why don't you use 1/4 sliders like you did before? Following drums over vocals is fine but even then 01:21:849 - and 01:22:277 - are crucial for this to work out. They''re both louder and more accentuated than the respective drumhits 1/4 before.

    This is what I think for drums here(even though it might too hard and one should consider ctrl+g 5 and 6 for playability in that pattern)
  1. 01:30:849 - Remove the sliderend? Trying to involve all drums here is futile on a normal and I think it feels better with the following repeatslider.
  1. 01:32:277 (1) - Aaaa, the last two turns are so good xD Would be supercool if you could perfectly align the first wobble-sound with a direction turn too! Right now it's more inbetween two of them.
  1. 01:59:706 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I think you can try harder to involve the drumline here? Can't do the whole thing but right now it feels underwhelming considering that you paid a lot of attention on drums so far
  1. 02:16:849 (7) - Remove for more tension and giving 6 more room.
  1. 03:10:277 (4) - I don't hear anything this circle could relate to.
Generally speaking about that bridge-section I don't think you're getting very far here. You're trying to keep mapping drums and catch the atmospheric ambiente at the same time and it feels really odd because the drums are actually rather dense and you only map it sparsely but at the same time you disregard most of the piano which gives a very weird impression to the player.
I would consider remapping this part.

A lot of stuff mentioned repeats itself on the repititions so I didn't mention it again



aaaa, 2,5h on two diffs sub 2*, why am i so slow?
I might look into other diffs at a later point too~

If you want to discuss anything further please message me.
Okoratu
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Okoratu
Should i make a part SB for the easy so that modding gets easier? thank you for posting this much!
Endaris
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Endaris
I don't think that one extra SB-section exclusively for the Easy would do much in terms of effort one has to spend as the diff is very consistent (even more so for a Collab) therefore modding each part once does the job patternwise and in terms of spacing and stuff it doesn't add a lot considering one part is about 20s when the map itself has above 3min draintime even after adding an additional break.
+ I don't really see a good spot to insert another break, they're nicely spaced and putting one into the final would be meh.
Okoratu
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Okoratu
my main problem is i dont remember who did what

Okoratu wrote:

22:42 Okoratu: 00:01:120 - 00:37:420 - me
22:42 Okoratu: 00:37:420 - 00:55:706 - J1NX1337
22:43 Okoratu: 00:55:706 - 01:13:992 - Yuii-
22:43 Okoratu: 01:13:992 - 01:23:134 - me
22:43 Okoratu: 01:23:134 - 01:34:563 - Feerum
22:43 Okoratu: 01:34:563 - 01:52:849 - me (lol)
22:44 Okoratu: 01:52:849 - 02:11:134 - J1NX1337
22:44 Okoratu: 02:11:134 - 02:20:277 - Feerum
22:44 Okoratu: 02:20:277 - 02:29:420 - me
22:45 Okoratu: 02:29:420 - 02:38:563 - Feerum
22:45 Okoratu: 02:38:563 - 02:56:849 - me xd
22:45 Okoratu: 02:56:849 - 03:05:992 - Yuii-
22:45 Okoratu: 03:05:992 - 03:24:277 - me
22:46 Okoratu: 03:24:277 - 03:33:420 - J1NX1337
22:46 Yuii-: i'm missing one of my parts though
Idk what happened past that last timestamp
that's... a first actually lol
I'm actually really fucking glad i made that post a few months ago just beneath yuii's pepsi, otherwise i'd only recognise a few of my slidershapes and jinx's long sliderart which sometimes tries to look like a car
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Endaris
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Endaris
Oh lol
I was a bit confused about that too but I suppose you can figure it out with the help of your collaborators :D
J1NX1337
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J1NX1337

Okoratu wrote:

my main problem is i dont remember who did what

Okoratu wrote:

22:42 Okoratu: 00:01:120 - 00:37:420 - me
22:42 Okoratu: 00:37:420 - 00:55:706 - J1NX1337
22:43 Okoratu: 00:55:706 - 01:13:992 - Yuii-
22:43 Okoratu: 01:13:992 - 01:23:134 - me
22:43 Okoratu: 01:23:134 - 01:34:563 - Feerum
22:43 Okoratu: 01:34:563 - 01:52:849 - me (lol)
22:44 Okoratu: 01:52:849 - 02:11:134 - J1NX1337
22:44 Okoratu: 02:11:134 - 02:20:277 - Feerum
22:44 Okoratu: 02:20:277 - 02:29:420 - me
22:45 Okoratu: 02:29:420 - 02:38:563 - Feerum
22:45 Okoratu: 02:38:563 - 02:56:849 - me xd
22:45 Okoratu: 02:56:849 - 03:05:992 - Yuii-
22:45 Okoratu: 03:05:992 - 03:24:277 - me
22:46 Okoratu: 03:24:277 - 03:33:420 - J1NX1337
22:46 Yuii-: i'm missing one of my parts though
Idk what happened past that last timestamp
that's... a first actually lol
I'm actually really fucking glad i made that post a few months ago just beneath yuii's pepsi, otherwise i'd only recognise a few of my slidershapes and jinx's long sliderart which sometimes tries to look like a car


Or occasionally a bike! Pretty cool, huh?

But yeah from 04:03:134 - onwards it's just me, since I remember you were like FINISH IT!!! and so I did! :)

Endaris wrote:

  1. 00:37:420 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - This looks like an inconsistent pattern to me. I can easily hear what the first refers to but it's hard to tell what the second one is going on about and especially why it is different. If you say that you want to bring out vocals here I have to ask why you didn't do it at the first pattern. Decide on one thing to follow here please. I suppose you can use a different pattern for this spot elsewhere but I think it would be good if you kept it consistent in one place. It doesn't fit together like that *paraphrasing intensifies*
The difference between those two parts is that at the reverse slider, there's sounds on 00:40:849 - 00:40:992 - 00:41:134 - and 00:41:420 - so I thought a reverse slider would emphasize this pretty well, for lack of quarter beats. I think it sounds and plays fine so I don't personally see a reason to change it. I think it's fine to map to the stretched vocals with those long sliders after this as well, and, in my opinion, they bring good variety without feeling too inconsistent. Also since this is a large collab with 4 different mappers, the style is certainly going to switch quite actively so hence the snapping differences. Willing to discuss this further with anyone if deemed necessary, though. :P

Endaris wrote:

  1. 04:08:706 (2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - Is there any reasons to leave out the repeatsliders for blue ticks here? I found that very reassuring on the first part and would love to see it here too.
Well this whole ending section after the kiai end (excluding that first big slider) is by me, and this is the way I felt like mapping it, since I use a lot of reverses in my previous parts anyway. However, if many people really want those reverses, I could remap this part if needed to I guess. lol

Btw great job with the hipsounds Oko, banger beat!! :D
Vivyanne
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Vivyanne
hOI!
NM from da qUEUE!

This song will become a new osu meme, predicting rn

Extreme
No major issues so just pointing out small things

Might wanna solve this:


00:17:977 (3) - doens't play that well, might wanna change the angle
00:26:563 (3) - isn't it better when you put this note on maybe x:416 y:256 and blanket 00:26:706 (4) - with 00:25:992 (1) - ?
00:40:849 (5,6) - not sure about the slider pattern, feels really odd
00:42:992 (4) - feels odd too, maybe bend it a little less
00:50:563 (7,8) - not sure whether the stack is needed, reconsider the stacking here
00:56:563 (2) - cant you blanket this with 00:55:706 (1) - ?
01:26:420 (5,6) - they connect in a weird way, maybe bend 5 a little more
01:32:277 (1) - you are aware of where this slider ends right? it can also be snapped to 01:33:134 -
01:51:563 (3,7) - overlap?
02:03:134 (4,5) - wouldnt it be more fun to mirror these
02:05:992 (7,8) - is the stacking really needed?
02:11:134 (1) - just a little too fast, I tend to sliderbreak here
02:34:849 (4) - change to x:90 y:52
02:47:134 (6,7,8,9) - make this more like a square
03:05:992 (1) - maybe in this part you could follow the piano more, I'd map 100% to it
03:23:134 (6) - NC
03:30:277 (6) - this note is too far away from 03:29:849 (5) -
03:30:849 (9,3) - overlap
03:46:706 (9,10,11) - make this a triangle
04:00:849 (1) - just so unsure about the ending of this slider
04:20:277 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - you could increase spacing on this jump so that it closes the song out with a challenge/choke part
04:23:563 (1) - a slider maybe?

OK that's about it, map is sooo nice to play tho
Okoratu
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Okoratu
that point of aimod is outdated :P
lemme see through this
Kihhou
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Kihhou
fixed some pressing issues o3o not hitsound related

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Okoratu
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Okoratu
kihhou is up to date

HighTec wrote:

hOI!
NM from da qUEUE!

This song will become a new osu meme, predicting rn please explain why because it's literally about murdering.

Extreme
No major issues so just pointing out small things

Might wanna solve this:

Nuh, AiMod is dumb lol

00:17:977 (3) - doens't play that well, might wanna change the angle ? I messed around with it for a while until arriving at something i liked better but that doesn't look too different from what i had originally
00:26:563 (3) - isn't it better when you put this note on maybe x:416 y:256 and blanket 00:26:706 (4) - with 00:25:992 (1) - ? I will just do this to prevent everyone and their grandma to consequently point this out
00:40:849 (5,6) - not sure about the slider pattern, feels really odd ? This doesn't help me at all, you know :D I placed them because they felt intuitive this way to me, so if you don't explain what feels odd about them I will have nothing to work with and hence don't know in which direction i should experiment when changing this.
00:42:992 (4) - feels odd too, maybe bend it a little less I moved the following slider along with the stack instead because you were effectively talking about movement from this to the next object i assume
00:50:563 (7,8) - not sure whether the stack is needed, reconsider the stacking here yeah, i wanted you to pause and only start moving when the vocal comes in at that blue tick so these 2 notes are stacked because idk any other way to do this
00:56:563 (2) - cant you blanket this with 00:55:706 (1) - ? I could but i don't see how it affects gameplay or anything, really.
01:26:420 (5,6) - they connect in a weird way, maybe bend 5 a little more i did what you said but chances are i didn't do what you meant lol
01:32:277 (1) - you are aware of where this slider ends right? it can also be snapped to 01:33:134 - odd sound starts at 1/8 though so red tick doesn't make much sense
01:51:563 (3,7) - overlap? doesnt seem to have any relevance ingame
02:03:134 (4,5) - wouldnt it be more fun to mirror these then movement into the next pattern would get fucked and i think compared to my other sliders having them like this is more creative to begin with
02:05:992 (7,8) - is the stacking really needed? see answer for the other stack tldr yes
02:11:134 (1) - just a little too fast, I tend to sliderbreak here nerfed distance from 02:10:849 (1,2) - :D
02:34:849 (4) - change to x:90 y:52 did this differently, but please explain why next time you mention something like this!
02:47:134 (6,7,8,9) - make this more like a square why?? it's supposed to be a parallelogram you know
03:05:992 (1) - maybe in this part you could follow the piano more, I'd map 100% to it this part is mostly mapped to the piano so i don't really get it
03:23:134 (6) - NC i don't combo 01:12:849 (6) - 02:28:277 (6) - either and don't intend to do that
03:30:277 (6) - this note is too far away from 03:29:849 (5) - moved slightly closer
03:30:849 (9,3) - overlap doesn't seem to be relevant to playing this either
03:46:706 (9,10,11) - make this a triangle why? there are a lot like these that are separated in 12 12 kinds of patterns why should just this one be a triangle o.o
04:00:849 (1) - just so unsure about the ending of this slider same response as first one
04:20:277 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - you could increase spacing on this jump so that it closes the song out with a challenge/choke part i hate choking on my own mapsi hate choking on my own mapsi hate choking on my own mapsi hate choking on my own mapsi hate choking on my own mapsi hate choking on my own maps
04:23:563 (1) - a slider maybe? nah that sound doesn't have a definite ending and the impact is rather just one click instead of a hold

OK that's about it, map is sooo nice to play tho
thank you !!
_Hou
391 posts
Joined November 2014
_Hou
H-hello,
from my queue
Blue is an advice or smth
Pink is for things I strongly recommend to pay attention on
Black is my thoughts
1/8 mapping <3
(it feels strange to mod map where you can't find anything wrong)
(not able to mod/play elvis' diff)
H-here we go~

Extra


  1. 00:37:134 (8) - No I mean there is nothing to put circle here
  2. 01:52:563 (8) - ^
  3. 01:59:134 (6) - P-probably better 1/4 slider here? I feel more like that.
  4. 03:03:992 (3,1,2) - So strong beast here, I'd turn all them into circles and make them jumpy.
  5. 03:09:563 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - A-avoid these overlaps perhaps? They dont follow quiet part i think
  6. 04:12:992 (4) - into slider 1/4
  7. 04:19:420 (3,1,2) - same as 3rd above

Extreme


  1. 01:33:277 (2) - S-sure u should move this slider here 01:33:134 - and make it 1/4 tick longer.
  2. 01:55:563 (3) - T-this white tick wants to be clickable.
  3. 04:01:849 (2) - ^(2nd above)
So few i could find.
Great map,
waiting for rank/
Shoot you some stars,
Good luck.
Okoratu
Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator
4,912 posts
Joined May 2012
Topic Starter
Okoratu
thanks for the mod and stars i'll get to this soon <3
Nozhomi
Global Moderator
4,568 posts
Joined May 2013
Nozhomi

Endaris wrote:

Noz' Normal
  1. 00:25:992 (1,2,3,4) - I would suggest removing 4 as that creates at least SOME tension that is completely absent right now and also plays nicely towards the finish. Right now this feels fairly flat and uninteresting which doesn't match the music. - Remove it and extend slider.
  1. 00:39:134 (4) - I think the downbeat deserves much more attention than the blue tick here as both vocals and drums have their strongest point on it. If the spread wasn't already so inbalanced I would suggest splitting it into 2 separate sliders 1/4 apart. - Changed for reverse 1/2 and circles.
^ both of these throughout the whole thing - Done.
  1. 01:01:420 (7) - Remove for buildup tension? - Why I would do that ? It won't build any tension.
  1. 01:03:706 - this one too? (make the end a single or something?) - ^
  1. 01:21:706 (3) - whyyy
    You're missing about everything here that's important, why don't you use 1/4 sliders like you did before? Following drums over vocals is fine but even then 01:21:849 - and 01:22:277 - are crucial for this to work out. They''re both louder and more accentuated than the respective drumhits 1/4 before.

    This is what I think for drums here(even though it might too hard and one should consider ctrl+g 5 and 6 for playability in that pattern) - Done your rhythm, but didn't do the reverse, I just used a 1/2 circle instead.
  1. 01:30:849 - Remove the sliderend? Trying to involve all drums here is futile on a normal and I think it feels better with the following repeatslider. - No it's good like this.
  1. 01:32:277 (1) - Aaaa, the last two turns are so good xD Would be supercool if you could perfectly align the first wobble-sound with a direction turn too! Right now it's more inbetween two of them. - Sadly I can't really do better, or I kill the end who is perfect.
  1. 01:59:706 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I think you can try harder to involve the drumline here? Can't do the whole thing but right now it feels underwhelming considering that you paid a lot of attention on drums so far - Would be too much for a Normal.
  1. 02:16:849 (7) - Remove for more tension and giving 6 more room. - I don't think it will provide such tension.
  1. 03:10:277 (4) - I don't hear anything this circle could relate to. - Then you should buy a better sound device, because there is piano.
Generally speaking about that bridge-section I don't think you're getting very far here. You're trying to keep mapping drums and catch the atmospheric ambiente at the same time and it feels really odd because the drums are actually rather dense and you only map it sparsely but at the same time you disregard most of the piano which gives a very weird impression to the player.
I would consider remapping this part. - Well I'll see with more mods, but seems fine to me :/

A lot of stuff mentioned repeats itself on the repititions so I didn't mention it again - I saw.
Thx for the mod. Also did some improvement on aesthetic by removing overlaps at some places.

the baguette Normal
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Title:Higurashi no Naku Koro ni
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292,76,189992,1,2,1:2:0:0:
308,156,190277,1,8,0:0:0:0:
300,240,190563,6,0,P|260:295|192:301,1,140,2|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
116,264,191420,1,2,0:0:0:0:
88,184,191706,2,0,L|60:60,2,105,0|2|10,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
172,200,192849,1,10,0:0:0:0:
256,212,193134,1,2,0:0:0:0:
232,132,193420,2,0,L|208:28,2,105,2|0|4,1:2|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,212,194563,2,0,P|288:192|336:188,1,70,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
404,192,195134,6,0,P|392:128|436:48,1,140,4|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
500,96,195992,1,0,0:0:0:0:
492,180,196277,2,0,P|484:231|448:268,2,105,0|0|10,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
500,96,197420,6,0,P|464:104|416:96,1,70,10|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
348,88,197992,2,0,B|336:40|336:40|286:15,2,105,2|0|2,1:2|0:0|1:2,0:0:0:0:
328,168,199134,5,2,1:2:0:0:
260,116,199420,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,168,199706,2,0,P|175:216|191:265,2,105,0|0|0,1:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,104,200849,2,0,P|152:55|136:6,2,105,2|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
80,164,201992,6,0,B|156:252|132:364|132:364|176:256|269:218,1,420,0|10,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
436,200,204277,5,4,1:2:0:0:
380,260,204563,2,0,P|362:263|345:264,1,35,0|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,264,204849,2,0,P|292:320|264:360,2,105,10|8|8,1:2|0:0|1:3,0:0:0:0:
288,180,205992,2,0,P|287:144|300:108,1,70,10|8,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
348,44,206563,5,0,1:0:0:0:
400,108,206849,2,0,L|434:114,1,35,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
476,120,207134,2,0,L|484:236,2,105,10|8|8,1:2|0:0|1:3,0:0:0:0:
400,152,208277,2,0,L|406:238,1,70,10|8,1:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
372,300,208849,5,0,1:0:0:0:
300,256,209134,2,0,P|264:248|220:256,1,70,2|10,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
156,292,209706,2,0,L|152:348,1,35,0|10,0:0|1:2,0:0:0:0:
72,344,210134,2,0,L|74:309,1,35,0|2,1:0|1:2,0:0:0:0:
76,224,210563,2,0,B|87:189|87:189|76:157,1,70,8|8,1:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
36,84,211134,5,0,1:0:0:0:
120,80,211420,2,0,B|152:92|152:92|208:80,1,70,0|10,1:0|1:2,0:0:0:0:
264,48,211992,2,0,P|280:42|297:40,1,35,8|8,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,41,212420,2,0,P|401:42|417:48,1,35,8|4,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
468,116,212849,1,8,0:0:0:0:
424,188,213134,1,8,0:0:0:0:
380,260,213420,5,4,1:2:0:0:
304,296,213706,2,0,L|256:316,1,35,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
232,324,213992,2,0,L|108:304,2,105,10|8|8,1:2|0:0|1:3,0:0:0:0:
316,340,215134,2,0,L|380:312,1,70,10|8,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
453,269,215706,5,0,1:0:0:0:
380,227,215992,2,0,P|362:229|345:226,1,35,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
308,208,216277,2,0,L|184:240,2,105,10|8|8,1:2|0:0|1:3,0:0:0:0:
368,148,217420,2,0,P|375:114|364:81,1,70,10|8,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
300,28,217992,5,0,1:0:0:0:
236,84,218277,1,2,1:2:0:0:
172,28,218563,1,10,1:2:0:0:
100,72,218849,2,0,L|76:124,1,35,0|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
152,156,219277,2,0,L|166:187,1,35,0|2,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
96,232,219706,2,0,L|60:312,1,70,8|0,1:2|1:0,0:0:0:0:
144,332,220277,5,0,1:0:0:0:
212,280,220563,1,0,1:0:0:0:
275,335,220849,2,0,P|308:346|341:337,1,70,10|8,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
388,268,221420,2,0,L|493:268,2,105,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,220,222563,5,4,1:2:0:0:
376,160,222849,2,0,L|440:160,1,35,0|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
452,152,223134,2,0,P|484:104|484:48,2,105,10|8|8,1:2|0:0|1:3,0:0:0:0:
380,112,224277,2,0,P|349:95|315:90,1,70,10|8,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
236,120,224849,5,0,1:0:0:0:
160,156,225134,2,0,L|152:116,1,35,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,88,225420,2,0,B|116:60|116:60|40:28,2,105,10|8|8,1:2|0:0|1:3,0:0:0:0:
80,155,226563,2,0,P|63:186|63:220,1,70,10|8,1:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
96,300,227134,5,0,1:0:0:0:
148,236,227420,2,0,L|228:224,1,70,2|10,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
300,236,227992,2,0,P|308:259|328:280,1,35,0|10,0:0|1:2,0:0:0:0:
380,320,228420,2,0,P|370:334|365:351,2,35,0|2|0,1:0|1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
407,288,228849,2,0,P|415:253|411:219,1,70,8|8,1:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
396,136,229420,5,0,1:0:0:0:
331,84,229706,2,0,P|298:92|264:84,1,70,0|10,1:0|1:2,0:0:0:0:
192,40,230277,2,0,L|136:40,1,35,8|8,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
148,124,230706,2,0,L|113:124,1,35,8|4,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
48,72,231134,1,8,0:0:0:0:
20,152,231420,1,8,0:0:0:0:
48,232,231706,5,4,1:2:0:0:
131,215,231992,2,0,P|133:233|130:251,1,35,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
120,290,232277,2,0,L|228:278,2,105,10|8|8,1:2|0:0|1:3,0:0:0:0:
136,372,233420,2,0,L|231:362,1,70,10|8,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
289,351,233992,5,0,1:0:0:0:
360,304,234277,2,0,L|360:248,1,35,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,228,234563,2,0,B|412:236|412:236|480:224,2,105,10|8|8,1:2|0:0|1:3,0:0:0:0:
300,172,235706,2,0,B|263:165|263:165|231:173,1,70,10|8,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
156,216,236277,5,0,1:0:0:0:
120,140,236563,1,2,1:2:0:0:
176,76,236849,1,10,1:2:0:0:
259,79,237134,2,0,P|276:85|293:87,1,35,0|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
376,68,237563,2,0,P|393:70|409:75,1,35,0|2,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
468,136,237992,2,0,L|456:232,1,70,8|0,1:2|1:0,0:0:0:0:
404,268,238563,5,0,1:0:0:0:
372,192,238849,1,0,1:0:0:0:
320,255,239134,2,0,P|287:268|252:266,1,70,10|8,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
196,204,239706,2,0,P|209:153|247:119,2,105,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
167,283,240849,6,0,B|124:352|41:330|41:330|80:264|60:200|60:200|40:132|100:76,1,420,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
260,24,243134,5,0,0:0:0:0:
332,68,243420,1,0,0:0:0:0:
260,108,243706,2,0,P|293:143|357:146,2,105,8|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
331,68,244849,2,0,P|366:67|397:83,1,70,8|2,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
430,161,245420,5,4,0:3:0:0:
400,240,245706,1,0,0:0:0:0:
364,316,245992,2,0,P|417:322|460:297,2,105,8|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
316,248,247134,2,0,P|284:240|240:256,1,70,8|2,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
184,304,247706,5,4,0:3:0:0:
260,336,247992,1,0,0:0:0:0:
249,249,248277,2,0,L|236:136,2,105,8|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
332,268,249420,2,0,L|322:175,1,70,8|2,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
316,116,249992,5,4,0:3:0:0:
236,144,250277,1,0,0:0:0:0:
156,116,250563,2,0,P|90:107|29:175,1,140,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
21,234,251420,1,4,0:0:0:0:
104,218,251706,2,0,L|175:201,1,70,8|0,0:0|1:1,0:0:0:0:
256,188,252277,5,4,0:0:0:0:
296,263,252563,1,0,0:0:0:0:
372,300,252849,2,0,B|392:340|392:340|472:356,2,105,8|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
368,216,253992,2,0,P|380:184|376:136,1,70,8|2,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
336,76,254563,5,4,0:3:0:0:
288,144,254849,1,0,0:0:0:0:
211,176,255134,2,0,P|161:187|111:173,2,105,8|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
220,92,256277,2,0,L|184:16,1,70,8|2,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
132,88,256849,5,4,0:3:0:0:
76,148,257134,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,212,257420,2,0,B|176:232|176:232|228:212,2,105,8|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
76,276,258563,2,0,L|139:306,1,70,8|2,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
216,340,259134,5,4,0:3:0:0:
292,304,259420,1,8,0:0:0:0:
336,232,259706,2,0,P|316:204|316:156,1,70,8|8,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
332,88,260277,5,2,0:3:0:0:
393,146,260563,1,10,0:0:0:0:
312,169,260849,2,0,L|232:188,1,70,8|0,0:0|1:3,0:0:0:0:
256,192,261420,12,8,263563,0:1:0:0:
lit120
3,251 posts
Joined August 2013
lit120
alright, for a hitsound, i'll just check on Extreme diff only for this, so let's go

  1. asdf --> Soft
  2. asdf --> Normal
  3. asdf --> Drum
this one is only for 00:01:120 - 00:17:977 -
[Hitsound]
  1. 00:04:834 (4) - is this on purpose using a slider whistle?
  2. 00:07:405 (3) - clap
  3. 00:10:977 (2) - clap
  4. 00:11:977 (2) - clap
  5. 00:12:262 (3) - clap
  6. 00:12:977 (2) - remove clap on tail
  7. 00:13:405 (3) - clap
  8. 00:13:977 (4) - clap on tail
  9. 00:15:548 (2) - clap
  10. 00:16:262 (4) - remove clap
  11. 00:16:548 (6) - clap
  12. 00:16:834 (7) - clap
  13. 00:17:119 (1) - clap on head
  14. 00:17:548 (2) - clap on head
  15. 00:17:977 (3) - clap on head
  16. 00:20:135 (5) - drum clap
  17. 00:22:420 (5) - drum clap on head
  18. 00:23:420 (10) - drum clap on head and drum whistle on tail (not pretty sure about it though)
  19. 00:24:706 (5) - drum clap
  20. 00:26:992 (5) - drum clap on head
  21. 00:27:992 (3) - hmm... drum whistle should be the one
  22. 00:27:992 (3) - drum clap
  23. 00:31:563 (6) - drum clap
  24. 00:33:849 (5) - drum clap on head
  25. 00:36:277 (1) - clap soft
  26. 00:36:420 (2,3,4) - clap soft
  27. 00:36:706 (5,6,7,9) - clap (soft sampleset)
  28. 00:37:134 (8) - soft sampleset. it's kinda quite here
  29. 00:38:849 (5) - drum clap
  30. 00:39:420 (8) - soft sampleset
  31. 00:41:706 (9) - soft sampleset + remove clap
  32. 00:41:992 (1) - drum finish
  33. 00:42:992 (4,5) - both of them are drum clap, except for (5) tail
  34. 00:45:277 (3) - drum clap on head
  35. 00:46:277 (8) - drum whistle i guess. and also, soft sampleset
  36. 00:47:992 (5) - drum clap
  37. 00:48:563 (8) - soft sampleset
  38. 00:50:277 (6) - drum clap
  39. 00:50:849 (9) - remove clap + soft sampleset
  40. 00:51:134 (1) - drum finish on head
  41. 00:52:134 (3,4) - both of them are drum clap, except for (4) tail
  42. 00:53:420 (1) - drum finish on head
  43. 00:54:277 (3) - tail drum clap
  44. 00:54:706 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - clap soft
  45. 00:56:706 (3) - remove tail clap, add drum clap on head
  46. 00:57:706 (6) - soft sampleset
  47. 00:58:992 (4) - drum clap on head + remove clap on tail
  48. 00:59:420 (5) - drum clap
  49. 00:59:992 (7,8) - soft sampleset on (7) and remove clap on (8)
  50. 01:00:277 (1) - drum finish on head, drum clap on tail
  51. 01:01:277 (4,5) - drum clap on both except (5) tail
  52. 01:03:563 (4,5) - ^
  53. 01:04:420 (7,8,9) - didn't hear any drum sound here, so remove clap
  54. 01:05:849 (3,4) - drum clap on both, except (4) tail
  55. 01:06:849 (6) - remove clap
  56. 01:08:134 (4,5) - drum clap on both, except (5) tail
  57. 01:09:706 (2) - drum clap on tail
  58. 01:10:563 (5) - clap tail
  59. 01:11:420 (9) - clap tail
  60. 01:11:992 (2) - drum clap on head
  61. 01:12:563 (4,5) - clap
  62. 01:12:849 (6) - clap drum
  63. 01:13:134 (7) - remove clap on head
  64. 01:13:563 (9) - clap
  65. 01:13:706 (10) - drum clap
  66. 01:14:277 (2) - drum clap
  67. 01:14:992 (6,7) - drum clap on head only
  68. 01:15:992 (10) - remove clap
  69. 01:16:277 (1,2) - drum clap
  70. 01:17:277 (6) - drum clap on head
  71. 01:18:277 (10) - remove clap
  72. 01:18:563 (1,2) - drum clap on both heads
  73. 01:19:563 (5,6) - drum clap on both heads
  74. 01:20:563 (9) - remove clap
  75. 01:20:849 (1) - looks suitable to use drum finish on head
  76. 01:21:706 (5) - clap
  77. 01:21:849 (6) - drum clap
  78. 01:22:706 (2) - soft clap
  79. 01:23:420 (2) - drum clap
  80. 01:24:134 (6,7) - drum clap on both heads
  81. 01:25:134 (10) - remove clap
  82. 01:25:420 (1,2) - drum clap
  83. 01:26:420 (5) - drum clap on head
  84. 01:27:420 (9) - remove clap
  85. 01:27:706 (1,2) - drum clap on both heads
  86. 01:28:706 (5,6) - drum clap on both heads
  87. 01:29:706 (9) - remove clap
  88. 01:29:992 (1) - finish or drum clap on head
  89. 01:30:277 (2) - drum clap on head
  90. 01:30:992 (4) - drum clap
  91. 01:31:420 (5) - drum clap on head
  92. 01:31:849 (7) - soft clap
  93. 01:32:277 (1) - normal clap
holy shit i better stop from there cuz there are so many things i wanted to point it out, omg. just listen to the music again and see whether you can handle it by yourself on the other parts xd

let's go for NM mode

[Extreme]
  1. testplayed m8
  2. 00:01:120 (1,2) - yoo oko, the vocal seems like getting softer and softer. better decrease the volume on that slider, thx
  3. 00:18:834 - add a note here?
  4. 00:22:420 (5,6) - not blanketed properly, sorry
  5. 00:29:277 (5,8) - blanket this
  6. 01:43:277 (2,1) - ^
  7. 02:19:992 (8,1) - blanket is off
  8. 02:56:563 (2,1) - blanket this
  9. 04:00:849 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:32:277 (1,2,3,4) - LMAO looks kinda similar, but it's kinda boring to make it like "almost same". try sth a bit different here
[Elvis]
  1. 02:10:777 (2) - i don't think this note exists on the song, so better remove it
  2. 04:03:134 (1) - looks like someone has forgotten to set a finish here
[Extratu]
  1. 00:01:120 (1,2) - same reason from Extreme diff
  2. 00:05:691 (1,2,3) - ^
  3. 00:18:834 - add a note?
  4. 02:19:992 (9,1) - yooo, the blanket is off bruh
[Kihhou]
  1. 01:41:706 (1) - finish?
  2. 02:47:420 (4) - yep, no NC on here. highly chance to get the "sliderbreak" here, so NC it
  3. 03:24:277 (1,2) - yoooo, the distance is too far. make it a little bit closer here
[Vell]
  1. 00:01:120 (1,2,3,4) - same reason from Extreme diff
  2. 00:05:691 (1,2,3,4) - ^
nothing much. should be ok for now, except for those hitsounds :/. GL!
Okoratu
Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator
4,912 posts
Joined May 2012
Topic Starter
Okoratu

lit120 wrote:

alright, for a hitsound, i'll just check on Extreme diff only for this, so let's go

  1. asdf --> Soft
  2. asdf --> Normal
  3. asdf --> Drum
this one is only for 00:01:120 - 00:17:977 -
[Hitsound]
  1. 00:04:834 (4) - is this on purpose using a slider whistle? yes
  2. 00:07:405 (3) - clap ✔
  3. 00:10:977 (2) - clap ✔
  4. 00:11:977 (2) - clap ✔
  5. 00:12:262 (3) - clap ✔
  6. 00:12:977 (2) - remove clap on tail nah
  7. 00:13:405 (3) - clap ✔
  8. 00:13:977 (4) - clap on tail ✔
  9. 00:15:548 (2) - clap ✔
  10. 00:16:262 (4) - remove clap nah
  11. 00:16:548 (6) - clap ✔
  12. 00:16:834 (7) - clap ✔
  13. 00:17:119 (1) - clap on head ✔
  14. 00:17:548 (2) - clap on head ✔
  15. 00:17:977 (3) - clap on head nah
  16. 00:20:135 (5) - drum clap im using these claps because they have more impact than drum claps... if the rest of this is like this then i'll probably go ahead an deny a ton
  17. 00:22:420 (5) - drum clap on head z
  18. 00:23:420 (10) - drum clap on head and drum whistle on tail (not pretty sure about it though) did clap on head
  19. 00:24:706 (5) - drum clap z
  20. 00:26:992 (5) - drum clap on head z
  21. 00:27:992 (3) - hmm... drum whistle should be the one ✔
  22. 00:27:992 (3) - drum clap fuck you you made me go through the whole diff twice
  23. 00:31:563 (6) - drum clap n o
  24. 00:33:849 (5) - drum clap on head n o
  25. 00:36:277 (1) - clap soft no
  26. 00:36:420 (2,3,4) - clap soft did part of this
  27. 00:36:706 (5,6,7,9) - clap (soft sampleset) EWW nah
  28. 00:37:134 (8) - soft sampleset. it's kinda quite here normal sampleset provides the best feedback
  29. 00:38:849 (5) - drum clap nuh.
  30. 00:39:420 (8) - soft sampleset nuh.
  31. 00:41:706 (9) - soft sampleset + remove clap ??? nuh.
  32. 00:41:992 (1) - drum finish stop messing with my whistle pattern.
  33. 00:42:992 (4,5) - both of them are drum clap, except for (5) tail please stop ignoring the basic way i hitsound this
  34. 00:45:277 (3) - drum clap on head asdf
  35. 00:46:277 (8) - drum whistle i guess. and also, soft sampleset z did the drum whistle in a previous suggestion but this will stay normal.
  36. 00:47:992 (5) - drum clap m a n
  37. 00:48:563 (8) - soft sampleset \\zsdfgajhsldkfhakjllk;j
  38. 00:50:277 (6) - drum clap ,,,
  39. 00:50:849 (9) - remove clap + soft sampleset z
  40. 00:51:134 (1) - drum finish on head s t o p m e s s i n g w i t h m y w h i s t l e p a t t e r n
  41. 00:52:134 (3,4) - both of them are drum clap, except for (4) tail zzzzzz
  42. 00:53:420 (1) - drum finish on head i'm so mad rn
  43. 00:54:277 (3) - tail drum clap nah this soft clap makes sense
  44. 00:54:706 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - clap soft ne h
  45. 00:56:706 (3) - remove tail clap, add drum clap on head no
  46. 00:57:706 (6) - soft sampleset this is literally the same hitsounding as the previous part what the hell
  47. 00:58:992 (4) - drum clap on head + remove clap on tail ....
  48. 00:59:420 (5) - drum clap fuck drumclaps
  49. 00:59:992 (7,8) - soft sampleset on (7) and remove clap on (8) nooo
  50. 01:00:277 (1) - drum finish on head, drum clap on tail dont mess with my whistle pattern.
  51. 01:01:277 (4,5) - drum clap on both except (5) tail nah
  52. 01:03:563 (4,5) - ^ nah fuck this not answering individually anymore but only if i did something.
  53. 01:04:420 (7,8,9) - didn't hear any drum sound here, so remove clap
  54. 01:05:849 (3,4) - drum clap on both, except (4) tail
  55. 01:06:849 (6) - remove clap
  56. 01:08:134 (4,5) - drum clap on both, except (5) tail
  57. 01:09:706 (2) - drum clap on tail
  58. 01:10:563 (5) - clap tail ✔
  59. 01:11:420 (9) - clap tail ✔
  60. 01:11:992 (2) - drum clap on head
  61. 01:12:563 (4,5) - clap ✔
  62. 01:12:849 (6) - clap drum
  63. 01:13:134 (7) - remove clap on head
  64. 01:13:563 (9) - clap
  65. 01:13:706 (10) - drum clap
  66. 01:14:277 (2) - drum clap
  67. 01:14:992 (6,7) - drum clap on head only
  68. 01:15:992 (10) - remove clap
  69. 01:16:277 (1,2) - drum clap did sth different
  70. 01:17:277 (6) - drum clap on head
  71. 01:18:277 (10) - remove clap
  72. 01:18:563 (1,2) - drum clap on both heads
  73. 01:19:563 (5,6) - drum clap on both heads
  74. 01:20:563 (9) - remove clap
  75. 01:20:849 (1) - looks suitable to use drum finish on head did sth different
  76. 01:21:706 (5) - clap ✔
  77. 01:21:849 (6) - drum clap did differently on a previous occasion
  78. 01:22:706 (2) - soft clap ✔
  79. 01:23:420 (2) - drum clap
  80. 01:24:134 (6,7) - drum clap on both heads
  81. 01:25:134 (10) - remove clap
  82. 01:25:420 (1,2) - drum clap
  83. 01:26:420 (5) - drum clap on head
  84. 01:27:420 (9) - remove clap
  85. 01:27:706 (1,2) - drum clap on both heads
  86. 01:28:706 (5,6) - drum clap on both heads
  87. 01:29:706 (9) - remove clap
  88. 01:29:992 (1) - finish or drum clap on head
  89. 01:30:277 (2) - drum clap on head
  90. 01:30:992 (4) - drum clap
  91. 01:31:420 (5) - drum clap on head
  92. 01:31:849 (7) - soft clap
  93. 01:32:277 (1) - normal clap

holy shit i better stop from there cuz there are so many things i wanted to point it out, omg. just listen to the music again and see whether you can handle it by yourself on the other parts xd
dont mess with my whistle pattern
fuck drum claps i can barely hear those over the song.

let's go for NM mode

[Extreme]
  1. testplayed m8
  2. 00:01:120 (1,2) - yoo oko, the vocal seems like getting softer and softer. better decrease the volume on that slider, thx decreased on sliderend
  3. 00:18:834 - add a note here? nah that worbhalksfjd; sound should just be listened to, not played.
  4. 00:22:420 (5,6) - not blanketed properly, sorry looks fine to me
  5. 00:29:277 (5,8) - blanket this that would give me a bigger curve than i want to
  6. 01:43:277 (2,1) - ^ fixed.
  7. 02:19:992 (8,1) - blanket is off geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez
  8. 02:56:563 (2,1) - blanket this nah that would make the slider touch the hp bar and it's overall not worth it
  9. 04:00:849 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:32:277 (1,2,3,4) - LMAO looks kinda similar, but it's kinda boring to make it like "almost same". try sth a bit different here if i get an idea on what to do except giant wavesz
[Extratu]
  1. 00:01:120 (1,2) - same reason from Extreme diff if i'm copying over hitsounds anyway why do you mention this
  2. 00:05:691 (1,2,3) - ^ why did you not mention this in extreme lmao
  3. 00:18:834 - add a note? same answer
  4. 02:19:992 (9,1) - yooo, the blanket is off bruh z.z.z.,fsa.dkfjal;sfk
nothing much. should be ok for now, except for those hitsounds :/. GL!
Idk i get the feeling we just approach hitsounding completely differently
and i hate drumclaps so much after this mod
good thing not everything in it was drumclaps so i still did a few of these xD
thankss

Hou Rearu wrote:

H-hello,
from my queue
Blue is an advice or smth
Pink is for things I strongly recommend to pay attention on
Black is my thoughts
1/8 mapping <3
(it feels strange to mod map where you can't find anything wrong)
(not able to mod/play elvis' diff)
H-here we go~

Extra


  1. 00:37:134 (8) - No I mean there is nothing to put circle here ... b-but there is a rather clear sound there o.o
  2. 01:52:563 (8) - ^ s-same
  3. 01:59:134 (6) - P-probably better 1/4 slider here? I feel more like that. i don't understand this.. this is already an 1/4 slider? xD
  4. 03:03:992 (3,1,2) - So strong beast here, I'd turn all them into circles and make them jumpy. interesting idea, but the current way this is built up is focused on when a drum rim is hit because if i focus every sound there is in that pattern it'd just turn into yolo jumps without much structure to them, i did shorten 03:04:420 (2) - and added a circle there for that reason! also shortened 01:51:277 (2) - and 04:19:849 (2) - and restructured 00:35:706 - great suggestion!
  5. 03:09:563 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - A-avoid these overlaps perhaps? They dont follow quiet part i think they work pretty well for me at least
  6. 04:12:992 (4) - into slider 1/4 not sure about this yet, i do this frequently in the other parts like this as well so i'll see if i get more feedback regarding these
  7. 04:19:420 (3,1,2) - same as 3rd above

Extreme


  1. 01:33:277 (2) - S-sure u should move this slider here 01:33:134 - and make it 1/4 tick longer. there's a bunch of stuff going on and i think the blue tick is the most obvious thing to be clickable in this context!
  2. 01:55:563 (3) - T-this white tick wants to be clickable. but the blue tick vocal wants to be hold!!
  3. 04:01:849 (2) - ^(2nd above) same!
So few i could find.
Great map,
waiting for rank/
Shoot you some stars,
Good luck.
Thank you a lot for your input! :D/

out of the things endaris mentioned about the easy only 2 were relevant for me and i managed to do something about one of these and don't really want to do the other one as it would be ignoring the song lol.
J1NX1337
248 posts
Joined February 2014
J1NX1337
Kono mozzu tomare, watashi no mozzu ni!
Normal Mod
[General]

1) Some of the hitsounds seem a bit inconsistent on some diffs, might wanna run a double check maybe. Pointed out a few of them on some of the diffs.

2) Add "elvis" into the tags? The king needs some recognition after all these years.

[Collab Easy]

Easy collabs ftw, especially when you forget which parts are whose. xd
Obviously won't be touching my own parts here. Mainly stuff about blankets, though many of them were quite major. I'd consider rechecking the hitsounds since I found some odd stuff, especially if you didn't do it manually for the first time.

1) 00:56:849 (3,4,1) - You could work on the blankets(?) here a bit more imo. They're quite off and you should at least center the circle between the curves. Atm it looks quite messy. I'd consider doing a bit of remaking here.

2) 00:59:134 (2,3) - I'd fix this blanket. It's off a bit, looks kinda weird. Also, I'd curve 01:00:277 (1) - less since it kinda looks like a bad blanket as the way it's now.

3) 01:02:563 (3,4) - The relation between these is also kinda weird. It looks like an incomplete blanket. Consider fixing the blanket or just doing something else with the slider.

4) 01:06:277 (2) - I don't really like how you ignore the vocal and beat on 01:06:563 - I think a reverse slider might emphasize the music better here. Its current rhythm threw me off a bit.

5) 01:25:706 (1,2) - Blanket's a bit off. xd

6) 02:15:706 (1) - Curve this a bit more for a better blanket.

7) 02:27:134 (1) - I think this slider could look a bit smoother towards the end. Consider moving the second red anchor on the slider tick so that it turns right on the beat.

8) 02:29:992 (2,3) - The transition between these looks a bit odd to me. Maybe move (3) more to the top left and/or curve the reverse slider a bit less?

9) 03:02:849 (4) - I think you should move this more to the left because of the way that 03:01:420 (3) - curves to it.

10) 03:16:134 (2) - Why is there a clap here? Shouldn't there be a hitsound on the end of 03:15:134 (1) - instead? The start of 03:16:849 (3) - seems to be missing some as well. I don't know if this is the intentional way you chose to hitsound the set but I thought they were kinda weird. To be honest it might be a good idea to do a full hitsound check (yay) on the whole map.

11) 03:45:420 (2,3) - Would recommend fixing this blanket.

12) 03:53:420 (3) - Would also curve this a bit more for a better blanket.

[Noz's Normal]

Nice Normal, there was some stuff I was about to point out before but another modder seems to have taken care of it. Plays fine now and that's great. There's some stuff about the hitsounds that you might wanna run a double check for.

1) 00:38:849 (3) - I think it would be more satisfying to play this if you made this a reverse slider like 00:37:706 (2) - to map to the vocal echo. So basically reverses on 00:39:277 - and ends at 00:39:706 -. Also NC around 00:39:992 (5) - ? The combo gets kinda long.

2) 00:41:992 (1) - Shouldn't this slider start have a finish and clap like at 00:44:277 (1) - etc.?

3) 01:16:849 (3,4) - Blanket's off between these. You can still blanket both the start and end like so: http://puu.sh/nUCdN/a82eda53e2.jpg

4) 01:37:134 (2,3) - Stack's off a little bit. AiMod likes to complain about it. lol

5) 01:00:277 (4) - NC? Song changes here a bit and the combo's kinda long anyway.

6) 01:43:992 (2,3) - Should even out the spacing between these. It's a bit too high atm.

7) 01:51:992 (5) - I thought the offbeat slider here was kinda weird, and I think 01:52:277 - should be clickable because of the high vocal, rather than 01:52:563 (6) - which feels kinda odd. Howbout using three sliders here instead? Or something else.

8) 01:57:992 (3) - The hitsounds here differ quite a bit from 01:53:420 (3) -. Not sure if it's intentional but I found it kinda weird. I can hear a sort of kick in the song on those parts but I don't think these claps emphasize them very well.

9) 02:15:706 (4) - Same as 5)

10) 02:29:420 (1,2) - I found these a bit inconvenient to play because they were stacked, because of the quarter beat slider under it and everything. You don't stack them on 03:42:563 (1,2) - either so I think it'd be better if you didn't stack them.

11) 02:35:277 (4,5) - Spacing error here too.

12) 04:07:992 (2,3) - ^Same

13) 04:21:134 - Maybe silence this slider end? I don't hear anything in the song to make it audible for.

[Nicoratu's Hard]

A pretty nice Collab, fun to play. There were maybe a section or two that were a bit confusing. The double reverses and different kind of rhythm were a bit odd at first but then I sort of got the hang of it so it's alright. The kiai was especially good.

1) Maybe drop the OD to 6? It's a relatively easy Hard and the OD gap it leaves with Vell's Insane is quite small, even though his Insane is quite a bit more difficult.

2) 00:01:977 (2) - Wave could look a bit better if you position the second curve point more to the lower right. Not a big deal of course.

3) 00:53:706 - There's a sound here in the song that you could emphasize by ending the slider here instead. Also there's nothing on 00:54:134 (3) - that would allow this circle. I don't hear anything. It also felt quite out of place when playing.

4) 00:55:777 (1) - This... should probably be on the beat on 00:55:706 - instead of the 1/8 lol

5) 00:56:277 (2) - I also thought it was kinda weird that you don't emphasize the kick heard on 00:56:706 - with anything clickable. Same for 00:56:992 - in this case. 00:59:134 (3) - It was fine here because I felt the quarter beats were a bit more prominent here and the transition to the slider felt more impactful since no beats were ignored. Maybe try some other patterns? Same for other parts like this later on.

6) 01:00:277 (1,2,3) - Having this much stacked with a half beat separation was quite unexpected for my first play and it felt kinda out of place. It doesn't confuse me anymore but I think I'd something else with them rather than just stacking them all on top of each other.

7) 03:04:277 (4,5,6,1,2,3) - I thought this was too confusing/difficult for a Hard, actually broke here. I think it's because of the double reverse combined with lots of sudden consecutive circles and a triplet reverse. Should probably ease it out a little bit with like a slider or something. It's basically 210BPM tapping and makes for quite a difficulty spike.

8) 04:20:992 (9) - I'd end this slider on 04:21:277 - to emphasize that sound in the song and then just add a circle on 04:21:420 - because I think it should also be clickable. Also for some reason, the stacked (8) and (9) confused me a couple of times. Perhaps because of this exact same reason.

9) 04:23:563 (1) - The placement of this circle feels a bit random. Maybe put it near the end of 04:20:992 (9) - (or the circle if you decide to change it) to sort of emphasize the "pause".

[Vell's Insane]

Cool Insane, I like your patterns, they're quite smooth!

1) 00:19:706 (3) - I thought it was kinda weird to have such a long reverse slider here considering that you don't really repeat this pattern anywhere later on to emphasize this same sound in the song. Howbout some more sliders and stuff instead?

2) 00:24:134 (2,3,4,5,6) - I felt like this square was kinda out of place. This many consecutive circles doesn't really emphasize the song that well imo. The contrast to that and 00:33:563 (2,3,4,1,2) - is pretty large. I'd do something else than use all these circles here, feels too aggressive. Works just fine here 00:36:420 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - since it picks up a lot.

3) 00:45:849 - Maybe map this beat?

4) 00:54:277 (4,5,1,2,3) - I think it would be more satisfying if you mapped this a bit more like you mapped 00:36:134 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -. I'd at least make 00:54:563 - clickable or maybe add a triplet after it.

5) 01:15:849 (6,7,8,9) - Square pattern has some inconsistent spacing.

6) 01:32:277 - Should probably have a clickable circle here because there's a kick, and then start the spinner immediately after it. Ending this part on 01:32:134 (6) - feels quite unsatisfying imo.

7) 01:48:706 (4,5,6) - Perfect triangle out of these?

8) 01:54:706 (7,8) - I think you should avoid these offbeat sliders since the vocals on 01:53:706 (4,5) - have been mapped to the beats, and it would probably be a good idea to do the same for this echoing part here. Also there's kind of a kick on 01:55:134 - which I think should be clickable.

9) 02:31:277 (6,7,8,9) - Same as 5)?

10) 03:45:849 (4,5,6) - I thought this felt a bit weird because the rhythm you follow here 03:43:563 (4,5,6) - differs quite a bit from it. So consistency-wise I thought it was kinda weird. Maybe add a beat-long slider instead or something?

[Kihhou's Insane]

Pretty nice Insane, the parts with consecutive circles used pretty good patterns to emphasize the song. Not much to point out here. Most of the stacked back and forth patterns were really hard to see with the background on, but it should be alright with dim on. I guess you could unstack them just a bit so they're more readable. 01:30:134 (2,3,4) - to clarify what I mean.

1) 00:25:563 (5,1) - Blanket(?) here could be a bit better.

2) 01:02:563 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I get the feeling that there's some hitsounds missing here or something. I think on 01:03:134 (3) - since there seems to be a whistle clap on it at 02:18:563 (3) -

3) 01:41:706 (1) - I felt like this spinner was kinda unfitting here, not sure what you're emphasizing with it. There's not really any sound building up in the song here that would allow it, imo. Can't say the vocals cut it either. I'd probably just replace it with some regular notes.

4) 02:47:706 - Sure you wanna leave this unclickable? There's a pretty noteworthy sound in the song here.

5) 03:03:420 (4,5,6) - Spacing's a bit off between these.

6) 03:30:706 (6,7,8,1) - Maybe move these a bit to the right so that the visual spacing between 03:30:277 (5,6) - is the same as for the rest of this pattern? Not a big deal, though. Maybe do it for the other similar patterns as well.

[Extra]

Nice Extra, everything flows and plays well! Jump patterns are fun and emphasize the song well. Mainly pointing out trivial stuff like small spacing differences, stacks and your favorite: blankets.

1) 00:39:134 (6,7,8,9) - Perhaps proper triangle out of these like you did at 00:48:277 (6,7,8,9) - ?

2) 01:16:563 (2,6) - Should lower the slider end just a bit so that the blanket is perfect! :>

3) 01:20:277 (6,7,8,9) - Spacing between the circles in this square is a lil' bit off.

4) 01:31:992 (8) - Maybe position this just a bit more to the right so it's sort of blanketed by the slider curve?

5) 01:49:277 (5) - Maybe move the slider end a bit to the left so that 01:49:277 (5,6) - are parallel?

6) 02:14:277 (3,6) - Perhaps stack these?

7) 02:27:134 (1) - Curve this a bit more maybe for a better blanket and things?

8) 02:45:134 (9,1) - These aren't stacking properly because the slider doesn't have enough room to do so. I'd raise the pattern a bit so that they can be stacked perfectly.

9) 03:19:420 (7) - Stack this with 03:18:277 (4) - ? If that wasn't the intention then it's at least not perfectly between the start circle of 03:17:706 (2) - and the end circle of 03:18:277 (4) -

10) 03:54:277 (2,3,4) - Same spacing between these? Suppose it would look a tad cleaner.

[Elvis' Extra]

Nice Extra! Fun patterns that are a bit more technical than what the other diffs use, which brings more variety, and that's great. Some NCs are a bit inconsistent sometimes so might wanna run a double check on those. I'll be pointing a bunch of them out but I'll leave a bunch for you to check yourself too. So mainly pointing out NCs and spacing differences.

1) Some of the patterns are quite difficult to keep track of because of AR9 such as 03:40:849 (4,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1) - . Also things like stacks are difficult to distinguish whether they're quarter-beat or half-beat separated. Consider raising the AR a bit. I had no problems with most of these on 9.2 for example. Though if you consider it very essential for your map's style then feel free to keep it I guess. :p

2) 00:32:420 (2) - Would lower the slider end just a little bit so that it reverses straight back towards 00:32:277 (1) -

3) Your NCs in this intro segment are a bit odd, and I think somewhat inconsistent. You seem to use quite a bit of NCs all over the place, but then there's parts where you use them pretty much normally again like at 00:41:706 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -. Consider doing an NC double check.

4) 00:54:563 (6) - There's a pretty significant song change here so I'd consider an NC.

5) 01:11:134 (1,2,3,4) - The spacing between these seems quite uneven. I'd even them out to make them look nicer.

6) 01:13:992 - Kiai here? I'd also apply kiai to the other chorus sections of the song since I think they do a pretty good job at helping to emphasize the most intense parts.

7) 01:18:563 (3) - Should probably NC this for consistency with 01:27:706 (1) -

8) 01:20:277 (1,1) - I find these kinda weird because the sounds on these two sliders aren't really emphasized well imo. These follow a similar pattern as 01:19:992 (1) - but there are no really noticeable quarter beats in the song there unlike on the latter 2 sliders. To emphasize these sounds, I'd make 01:20:277 (1,1) - differ from 01:19:992 (1) - noticeably. Maybe with jumps or at least some other kind of pattern. Or perhaps just replace them with circles or something, whatever works for you. Same for 01:29:420 (1,1) - and similar patterns later on if you repeat it. 02:35:706 (1,1) - These ones are a bit better since they differ from 02:35:420 (1) - in their pattern which helps to bring forth the difference of the sound in the song here.

9) 01:22:563 (7) - Maybe NC here as well.

10) 01:30:563 (1,2,3) - Consistent spacing between these?

11) 01:49:277 (5) - Move the slider end just a bit more to the right for a perfect blanket. lol

12) 01:49:992 (7,8,9) - Same 10)?

13) 02:11:134 (1,1) - NC inconsistency here with 00:55:706 (1,2) - Also the NCing in this part differs quite a lot from the NCing at the part at 00:55:706 - so might wanna look into it a bit, since I don't think I'll be pointing everything out myself.

14) 02:14:563 (3) - Maybe move this a bit to the top right so that the end points of 02:13:992 (1,2,3) - form a proper triangle?

15) 02:18:849 (1,2,3) - Could make these look a bit better, like so: http://puu.sh/nUOUZ/58052af9a3.jpg You just need to rotate (3) counter-clockwise a bit. Then you could reposition 02:19:706 (1,2,3,4) - a bit so that (4) is right in the center of 02:18:849 (1,2,3) -

16) 02:31:134 (7,8,9,10) - Spacing between these looks kinda messy. Might wanna even it out a bit.

17) 02:36:277 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2) - The way you NC these differs quite a bit from 01:20:849 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - so might wanna make these a bit more consistent.

18) 02:40:277 (1) - Also the NCs here and a bit further on kinda differ from 01:24:849 (7) - etc. so perhaps make em a bit more consistent, though it's not as big of a problem here.

19) 02:44:134 (1,2,3) - Maybe even out the spacing between these? Not a big deal really.

20) 02:53:992 (8) - NC here you like did at 02:51:706 (1) - ?

21) 03:02:420 (5,6,7) - That stack looks a bit weird, maybe do something about it. lol

22) 03:03:134 (1,2,3,4) - Even out the spacing here maybe?

23) 03:29:849 (5) - I'd curve this a bit more so it'd look nicer imo. Also so it's a bit more similar to 03:28:849 (1) -

24) 03:35:134 (7) - Maybe NC here like you did at 03:25:992 (1) - ?

25) 03:37:420 (8) - Same?

26) 03:46:563 (1,2,3,4) - Even spacing? (1) differs from the rest.

27) 04:14:563 (3) - Shouldn't this be an NC instead because of the change in the song here?

28) 04:19:277 (2,3,1) - This stack screws me over quite a bit. It's hard to predict that pause there since it'd be completely possible for the quarter-beat at 04:19:563 - to be mapped, so it's hard to tell whether they're half-beat or quarter-beat separated. Consider doing something about that. The rest play fine at least with a bit higher AR.

[Extreme]

Quality map, everything plays and flows great and the music is well emphasized, nice work! Have you considered a more unique diffname to depict Higurashi's theme a bit better? Extreme doesn't exactly cut it imo, reminds me too much of sports. xD Something more sinister would be quite fitting for the song's theme imo.

1) 00:11:405 (1) - I think the wave would look better if you lowered the second curve point more to the lower right.

2) 00:21:992 (3) - This could be a bit further away from 00:21:706 (2) - to better emphasize the drum. The other parts like this seem to have more spacing between the slider and circle than this.

3) 00:45:277 (3) - Maybe move this slider end a bit to the right so that it's parallel with 00:44:277 (1) - ?

4) 00:46:277 (8) - Not really pointing anything out here but I really like that hitsound, wish you used it a bit more often. lol

5) 00:52:563 (4) - Imo this would look better if you arranged the curve points a bit more like so (even though I know you like weird wave sliders, which is why I'm not touching all of them lol): http://puu.sh/nVNuR/133fea0d52.jpg

6) 01:17:706 (7,10) - Properly blanket these? You do that with 01:17:992 (8,2) - so it would look better if both of them were properly blanketed.

7) 01:24:134 (6) - I'd move the end point just a liiitle bit to the left so they're perfectly parallel.

8) 01:25:706 (2) - Move this a tad to the left so that the blanket is perfect? Or maybe curve the slider a bit to accomplish that.

9) 01:52:849 (1) - Would lower the slider end a bit so that it sort of blankets the end of 01:53:134 (2) - better.

10) 01:56:849 (7,8,9) - The way you mapped this differs from 00:41:420 (7,8,9) - but I don't know if that's intentional. I guess it's alright to emphasize the vocals with circles as well and it might be alright variety, but I thought I'd make a note of it just in case. Your call.

11) 01:57:420 (1,2,3,4) - The spacing between these looks a bit odd. Maybe even out the spacing a bit.

12) 01:58:849 (5,6) - I'd probably stack these like you did at 00:43:420 (5,6) -

13) 02:09:706 (3) - Maybe curve this a bit more? The curve on it atm is so slight that it's barely noticeable. Not exactly sure where you were going with that.

14) 02:11:134 (1) - I'd move the red anchor in this slider a bit closer to the next curve point, since otherwise it creates a slight lump on the slider curve. Surprisingly enough it's somewhat noticeable.

15) 02:18:420 - The vocal here is quite prominent so I'd suggest emphasizing it somehow, like you did at 01:02:992 (2) - which feels very nice imo.

16) 02:22:563 (1) - Would move the slider end just a bit to the right so that it blankets 02:21:706 (4) - better.

17) 02:41:420 (4) - Would move the slider end point just a bit to the right for a perfect blanket. :>

18) 02:46:420 (4,5) - The curves here could be a bit more parallel. Would look nicer.

19) 03:08:992 (3) - This reverse slider looks really weird, it seems to be using the old slider curvature system so I'd remake the curve. Either that or one of those blazer curves. lol

20) 04:04:563 (6) - Maybe raise the slider end a bit or move 04:04:134 (5) - a bit to the left for a better blanket?

21) 04:06:134 (4) - Would move the slider end a tad to the right and then re-stack it on 04:05:134 (10) - so that it forms a better line with 04:05:992 (3) - like so: http://puu.sh/nVQzp/f820a12f65.jpg

22) 04:17:134 (2,3) - The curve on the slider would imply that (3) should be lower imo. So I'd rotate the slider maybe like -5° and/or reposition it a bit. Maybe stack the slider end on 04:15:992 (6) - or whatever
Vell
359 posts
Joined October 2013
Vell

J1NX1337 wrote:

[Vell's Insane]

Cool Insane, I like your patterns, they're quite smooth! thx!

1) 00:19:706 (3) - I thought it was kinda weird to have such a long reverse slider here considering that you don't really repeat this pattern anywhere later on to emphasize this same sound in the song. Howbout some more sliders and stuff instead? I always like to start a part with something different and less dense than what is coming next to give this introduction kind of feel to the map so I think this is fine

2) 00:24:134 (2,3,4,5,6) - I felt like this square was kinda out of place. This many consecutive circles doesn't really emphasize the song that well imo. The contrast to that and 00:33:563 (2,3,4,1,2) - is pretty large. I'd do something else than use all these circles here, feels too aggressive. Works just fine here 00:36:420 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - since it picks up a lot. changed this part to make it less agressive

3) 00:45:849 - Maybe map this beat? ok

4) 00:54:277 (4,5,1,2,3) - I think it would be more satisfying if you mapped this a bit more like you mapped 00:36:134 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -. I'd at least make 00:54:563 - clickable or maybe add a triplet after it. made it a triplet and changed the pattern to connect to each other

5) 01:15:849 (6,7,8,9) - Square pattern has some inconsistent spacing. made a different pattern here

6) 01:32:277 - Should probably have a clickable circle here because there's a kick, and then start the spinner immediately after it. Ending this part on 01:32:134 (6) - feels quite unsatisfying imo. yea I agree, also let the spinner end at 01:33:992 -

7) 01:48:706 (4,5,6) - Perfect triangle out of these? fixed

8) 01:54:706 (7,8) - I think you should avoid these offbeat sliders since the vocals on 01:53:706 (4,5) - have been mapped to the beats, and it would probably be a good idea to do the same for this echoing part here. Also there's kind of a kick on 01:55:134 - which I think should be clickable. tbh I really like to play these sliders to the echoeing and the kick is emphasized enough with the gap at 01:33:992 - , Id like to leave it like this

9) 02:31:277 (6,7,8,9) - Same as 5)? changed it similar to 5)

10) 03:45:849 (4,5,6) - I thought this felt a bit weird because the rhythm you follow here 03:43:563 (4,5,6) - differs quite a bit from it. So consistency-wise I thought it was kinda weird. Maybe add a beat-long slider instead or something? did that
Kihhou
1,040 posts
Joined March 2013
Kihhou

J1NX1337 wrote:

Kono mozzu tomare, watashi no mozzu ni!

[Kihhou's Insane]

Pretty nice Insane, the parts with consecutive circles used pretty good patterns to emphasize the song. Not much to point out here. Most of the stacked back and forth patterns were really hard to see with the background on, but it should be alright with dim on. I guess you could unstack them just a bit so they're more readable. 01:30:134 (2,3,4) - to clarify what I mean. ehhh i think it looks super ugly when 1/2 spaced hitcircles are stacked. not important enough

1) 00:25:563 (5,1) - Blanket(?) here could be a bit better. i just changed the whole positioning of this lol

2) 01:02:563 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I get the feeling that there's some hitsounds missing here or something. I think on 01:03:134 (3) - since there seems to be a whistle clap on it at 02:18:563 (3) - ahh yes idk what happened here lol added all the thigns to be added

3) 01:41:706 (1) - I felt like this spinner was kinda unfitting here, not sure what you're emphasizing with it. There's not really any sound building up in the song here that would allow it, imo. Can't say the vocals cut it either. I'd probably just replace it with some regular notes.

4) 02:47:706 - Sure you wanna leave this unclickable? There's a pretty noteworthy sound in the song here. ye. i think this is the best way to represent the music here

5) 03:03:420 (4,5,6) - Spacing's a bit off between these. fixed!

6) 03:30:706 (6,7,8,1) - Maybe move these a bit to the right so that the visual spacing between 03:30:277 (5,6) - is the same as for the rest of this pattern? Not a big deal, though. Maybe do it for the other similar patterns as well. these are intentional. i dont want the hitcircles being too tied close to the sliders b/c its not a continuation of the head

lit120 wrote:

[Kihhou]
  1. 01:41:706 (1) - finish? finish isnt there o3o
  2. 02:47:420 (4) - yep, no NC on here. highly chance to get the "sliderbreak" here, so NC it i dont see how nc would make this better o-o
  3. 03:24:277 (1,2) - yoooo, the distance is too far. make it a little bit closer here ok !!!
thanks c:

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445,149,236849,2,0,P|424:185|389:209,1,85,10|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
135,59,237277,2,0,P|177:57|215:77,1,85,10|0,0:0|1:2,0:0:0:0:
211,372,237706,2,0,P|190:337|187:295,1,85,2|8,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
284,337,238134,1,0,3:0:0:0:
359,346,238277,1,0,1:0:0:0:
402,283,238420,1,4,3:2:0:0:
464,327,238563,5,0,1:0:0:0:
501,162,238706,1,8,0:0:0:0:
420,200,238849,1,0,1:0:0:0:
501,162,238992,1,8,0:0:0:0:
457,35,239134,2,0,L|372:22,1,85,10|8,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
339,278,239706,6,0,L|384:251,1,42.5,0|8,0:0|1:2,0:0:0:0:
443,214,239992,1,0,1:0:0:0:
218,194,240134,2,0,L|263:167,1,42.5,0|10,0:0|1:2,0:0:0:0:
322,130,240420,1,0,1:0:0:0:
97,110,240563,2,0,L|142:83,1,42.5,8|8,0:0|1:2,0:0:0:0:
97,110,240849,6,0,P|136:182|55:178,1,198.333333333333,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
18,108,242992,1,2,0:0:0:0:
52,37,243134,5,0,0:0:0:0:
178,308,243420,1,0,0:0:0:0:
225,226,243563,1,0,0:0:0:0:
83,309,243706,2,0,L|91:350,1,42.5,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
327,159,244134,6,0,L|322:203,1,42.5,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
510,117,244420,1,0,0:0:0:0:
450,198,244563,2,0,L|401:201,1,42.5,8|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
178,83,244849,1,8,0:0:0:0:
274,60,244992,1,2,0:3:0:0:
242,138,245134,1,2,0:3:0:0:
210,5,245277,1,0,0:0:0:0:
386,37,245420,6,0,P|404:78|401:126,1,85,4|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
335,233,245849,1,0,0:0:0:0:
487,122,245992,2,0,L|478:178,1,42.5,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
167,116,246420,6,0,P|212:101|265:111,1,85,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
70,144,246849,2,0,L|75:93,1,42.5,8|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
170,327,247134,1,8,0:0:0:0:
134,205,247277,1,2,0:3:0:0:
268,265,247420,2,0,L|318:259,1,42.5,2|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
468,347,247706,6,0,P|435:323|390:313,1,85,4|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
311,357,248134,1,0,0:0:0:0:
485,252,248277,2,0,L|476:200,1,42.5,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
222,107,248706,6,0,L|226:51,1,42.5,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
135,37,248992,1,8,0:3:0:0:
225,198,249134,2,0,L|276:190,1,42.5,8|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
408,307,249420,1,8,0:0:0:0:
313,283,249563,1,2,0:3:0:0:
343,361,249706,1,2,0:3:0:0:
377,229,249849,1,0,0:0:0:0:
211,284,249992,6,0,P|192:323|192:368,1,85,4|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
286,177,250420,1,0,0:0:0:0:
300,268,250563,1,8,0:0:0:0:
286,177,250706,2,0,L|278:135,1,42.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
393,137,250992,6,0,P|403:91|391:44,1,85,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
470,214,251420,2,0,L|499:176,1,42.5,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
347,384,251706,1,8,0:0:0:0:
361,209,251849,1,8,0:0:0:0:
277,243,251992,1,0,1:1:0:0:
291,68,252134,1,8,0:0:0:0:
291,67,252277,6,0,P|331:52|375:54,1,85,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
148,218,252706,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,148,252849,2,0,L|270:152,1,42.5,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
503,336,253277,6,0,L|454:341,1,42.5,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
307,259,253563,1,0,0:0:0:0:
372,329,253706,2,0,L|382:387,1,42.5,8|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
205,219,253992,1,8,0:0:0:0:
218,122,254134,1,2,0:3:0:0:
279,180,254277,1,2,0:3:0:0:
144,160,254420,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,53,254563,6,0,P|336:39|383:45,1,85,4|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
217,22,254992,1,0,0:0:0:0:
463,33,255134,2,0,L|471:81,1,42.5,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
253,208,255563,6,0,L|207:204,1,42.5,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
344,245,255849,1,8,0:0:0:0:
230,118,255992,2,0,L|222:61,1,42.5,8|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
0,203,256277,1,8,0:0:0:0:
135,182,256420,1,2,0:3:0:0:
76,242,256563,1,2,0:3:0:0:
60,145,256706,1,0,0:0:0:0:
152,305,256849,6,0,P|192:322|235:319,1,85,4|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
432,211,257277,1,0,0:0:0:0:
362,290,257420,2,0,L|308:284,1,42.5,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
209,36,257849,6,0,L|214:80,1,42.5,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
120,0,258134,1,8,0:3:0:0:
217,172,258277,2,0,P|262:184|317:171,1,85,8|8,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
329,301,258706,2,0,L|283:317,1,42.5,2|2,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
300,178,258992,1,0,0:0:0:0:
420,277,259134,6,0,L|425:326,1,42.5,4|8,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
478,96,259420,2,0,P|496:136|490:177,1,85,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
402,47,259849,2,0,L|406:4,1,42.5,8|8,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
323,228,260134,1,2,0:3:0:0:
280,90,260277,5,2,0:3:0:0:
414,148,260420,1,2,1:3:0:0:
414,148,260492,1,2,1:3:0:0:
414,148,260563,1,10,0:0:0:0:
298,216,260706,1,8,0:0:0:0:
163,218,260849,1,8,0:0:0:0:
45,155,260992,2,0,L|31:61,1,85,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
32,70,261420,5,8,0:1:0:0:
256,192,261706,12,0,263563,0:0:0:0:
Underforest
5,895 posts
Joined July 2015
Underforest
Hi, M4M Map I need mod back
I'll mod only Easy and Extra (9 min drain) since drain of my map overall is 2:30

[General]
Add in tags "When They Cry", that's the english title of the anime/video game

[Collab Easy]
00:11:977 (3) - Remove curve
00:41:992 (1) - 00:44:277 (1) - Why not something like this?

00:48:849 (1) - Rotate 180° degrees
00:56:849 (3,4,1) - This blanket gives me cancer
02:36:849 (2) - Curve a little bit more
04:20:849 (3) - Soft-whistle at the tail?

[Extra]
00:20:135 (5) - 00:22:420 (5) - New combo for overall pattern
00:44:277 (1) - This should be curved cause as it is now breaks pattern imo
00:50:563 (7) - 01:04:277 (7) - New combo
01:13:849 (5,6,1) - Overmapped
01:15:706 (8) - NC and overall pattern
01:32:277 (1) - Add clap at the tail
02:29:277 (5,6,1) - Overmapped
04:00:849 (1) - Clap at the tail
04:03:134 (1) - Add finish at the start
04:23:563 (1) - Whistle?

GL! :)
Very polished map
Kei
1,797 posts
Joined May 2010
Kei
M4M~

I already posted my map on your queue, but I'll leave it here again (: my map

  • [Collab Easy]

    I found this diff to be too intense for an Easy. Some notes like 02:34:277 (1) for example could be removed to make this diff easier but that's just my personal opinion.
  1. 00:38:420 (2) - This 1/4 note is too much for an Easy diff. I think you could try some 1/2 rhythm instead, like this:
    SPOILER
  2. 00:47:563 (2) - Same here.
  3. 00:56:849 (3,4,1) - I don't want to be picky but this pattern can look much better. These blankets look sloppy tbh.
    SPOILER
  4. 00:59:134 (2,3,1) - Same here. To improve the map aesthetically I recommend you to focus on improving sliders and blankets like this one. It might sound picky or insignificant but if you apply this to your patterns I think the map will look much better overall. Here I suggest you to rearrange the pattern like this (:
    SPOILER
  5. 01:02:563 (3,4) - This blanket could be improved as well :p also this slider feels off. I think you shouldn't ignore 01:03:134 since it's an important instrumental beat. I suggest you to out some other rhythm in order to make that white tick clickable and follow the music properly. I came up with this but you can do as you wish (moved 01:02:849 (4) to 01:03:134 and replaced 01:02:563 (3) with a short 1/2 slider).
    SPOILER
  6. 01:09:706 (2) - Same as above. I'd move (2) forward to 01:09:992. I don't think it's necessary to add something at 01:09:706 but if you feel like it's too empty you can replace it with a short 1/2 slider as suggested above.
  7. 01:59:706 (1) - This is very picky, lol but, could you move the red point 1 grid up? I think it looks better that way.
  8. 02:02:992 (2) - Same about 1/4 sliders.
  9. 02:15:706 (1) - Improve this blanket as well?
  10. 02:36:563 (1,2) - Blanket here?
    SPOILER
  11. 02:56:849 (1,2) - Pssst, improve blanket again? sorry if I'm being too bothersome with this. :p
  12. 03:16:134 (2,3) - That's too hard for an easy diff. Consider changing this part for a 1/2 rhythm instead. I'll stop mentioning this. Change them if you agree. :oops:
  13. 03:59:420 (3) - Another possible blanket here. Sorry if I'm being too bothersome with this. :p
  • [Noz's Nomal]
  1. 00:39:992 (5) - This combo is too long for a normal diff imo. How about adding NC here in order to follow the vocals and to shorten it?
  2. 01:09:420 (1) - Place this circle where 01:07:134 (1) was?
  3. 02:15:706 (4) - Same again about long NC. Perhaps add NC here to shorten it?
  • [Nicoratu's Hard]

    I personally find the AR to be a little fast. I suggest you to reduce it to 7,5.
  1. 01:03:134 (3) - Missing hitnormal sound?
  2. 04:21:706 - Add a spinner here to make the score vary between plays? It'd be nice imo.

    I found this diff to be quite solid. Nice.
  • [Vell's Insane]
  1. 00:56:849 (4) - This sounds and feels off, plays awkward because it's like a slider with a random repeat that isn't following anything and is probably made like this for the sake of filling up this part easily. The rhythm here should be something more like this. Please try it out :3
    SPOILER
  2. 01:01:420 (7) - Same here, but with the little difference that this time the repeat doesn't sound as bad, but it's still a rhythm that's lacking and could be improved since the instrumental asks for 1/2 notes, not a 1/4 long slider.
    ____________

That's all I got. I'm bad at modding extra diffs so I prefer not to. Hope that's fine for you.

Good luck. :D
Grrum
886 posts
Joined November 2011
Grrum
Hi. Here for M4M from your queue. Hope this helps!

[Nicoratu's Hard]

00:04:262 (3) – This is overlapping the HUD on lower screen sizes. Move all of 00:01:120 (1,2,1,2,3,4) – down for an easy fix

00:22:134 – This sounds like a stronger note in the song than 00:21:849 (2) - , so try a rhythm like this: http://puu.sh/ocDe2/17492adcbd.jpg
00:30:563 (1,2,3,4,5) – You can switch it up between these kinds of rhythms, and here might be a good place to do that too.

01:00:277 (1,2,3) – By unstacking (3) and using normal spacing, you give a little more emphasis to the strong drum on it, which I think would be nice.

01:13:420 (6) – This is kind of confusing to read with this spacing/stacking/flow (I thought (5) was a reverse slider since that would be the natural way to set up this (6) slider). Try going for a smoother flow like: http://puu.sh/ocDAf/0253456599.jpg

01:32:277 (1,1) – This overlap is kind of awkward. Maybe have 01:34:563 (1) – be the blanketed note instead like: http://puu.sh/ocDK4/2d5d72f07c.jpg

03:06:849 (2,3) – Consider making this a ¼ slider instead (still a little flustered from the hard section at 03:04:277 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - )

[Vell's Insane]

00:07:691 (6) – This slider is unsnapped at the end

00:26:277 (2,3,4) – There are times like this where you use stacks inconsistently in the rhythm which can be a little annoying to play. Since you use a lot more ¼ stacks, I'd space out (2,3).
00:29:134 (4,5,6) – Yeah, it'd be nice if you unstacked (4,5)
02:14:706 (5,6,7) – This technique is used a few times in the map so check them all and see if you can do something about it.
00:52:563 (5,1) – This stack is good though because there aren't any ¼ rhythm stacks to confuse it with, and the spacing before it heavily indicates this is a 1/1 gap, so it's a lot nicer to play

00:41:992 (3) – This long reverse slider really really really slows down the map. The player goes from 5 or 6 clicks for every two beats down to 1 with this note. Are you sure there is something in the music that calls for you to disengage the player for this long? Try instead to fill this in with a light rhythm like: http://puu.sh/ocI3y/3987a0a8a2.jpg
00:44:277 (3) – Same thing with a lot of these long reverse sliders. There is a very big difference between the long slider sections and the not long slider sections, so try to make this difference not so big.
00:51:134 (3) – I'll stop mentioning them with this one, so double check all these and see if you really want to keep them (even 3/4 reverses like 00:19:706 (3) – )
00:48:277 (1) – This one is much better because you give the player a rest without grinding the map to a halt.

01:18:277 (7) – Consider making this a ¼ slider since the note at 01:18:420 – could be emphasized

01:34:277 (1,2,1) – Just a personal preference, but I like starting notes after spinner more towards the center so the player has an easier time resetting back into circle-clicking mod

02:00:992 (4,5,6) – This spacing is inconsistent in terms of rhythm
02:02:420 (2,3,4) – again, you have the same distance used for both ¼ rhythm and ½ rhythm when the audio isn't strong enough to suggest this, and so it's frustrating to play since it's easily misinterpreted what rhythm you're going for.

02:19:134 (5) – This slider is off the grid towards the bottom. Please raise this pattern up to give it room off the edge.

02:34:849 (4) – I don't like the ½ gap that's about to come, so try a rhythm like this: http://puu.sh/ocNFz/4978fb7c79.jpg

02:59:563 (2,3) – This is a little odd since it kind of looks like ctrl + G ing (3) is the more natural movement, but your spacing pattern gives enough of a hint of where to go that this might be okay, but I thought I'd still point it out because the flow is a little bit odd.

[Kihou's Insane]

00:54:563 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) – I have two issues with these jumps. One is that the strength of these jumps relative to the spacing you have directly around it is very strong, almost too strong. The other is that you don't have these kind of intense jumps in the kiai sections. I feel like the kiai is a stronger section of the song, so it should have the stronger patterns. So one thing you could do is make some measures like 01:22:706 (6,7,8,1) – into strong jumps. However, I'm inclined to just nerf the jumps here at 00:54:563 (1) by making (6,7) normal spacing (~1.8x). I think letting 00:55:420 (8,9) – be the star of this jump section fits with this being the loudest part of the measure, so I'd keep the jump into that and the downbeat at 00:55:706 (1) - .
02:09:992 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) – Same type of thing, same suggestion
03:04:849 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) – This one has a similar issue, but try making 03:05:134 (4) – a ¼ slider and delete (5) and I think it works better.

01:28:277 (3) – might be nice to move this up a bit if you can since it's close to being off the edge

01:31:992 (5,1) – I don't like this kind of stack, but that's just me

01:41:706 (1,1,2,3,4) – This might not be the best way to reintroduce the map. Try going with a calmer rhythm after the spinner like two ¼ slider or a ¼ reverse slider and a circle.

02:01:420 (4,5,6,1) – Can you explain your thought process behind this spacing? Why do you decrease the spacing after each note? What part of the music is declining in intensity this rapidly that would suggest to do this? I probably would have used normal spacing like at 01:22:706 (6,7,8,1) –

02:45:563 (2,4) – I don't like perfectly stacking these on top of each other because it hides information from the player about where the next note is. I'd do +4x, +4y on (4) so the player has a chance to see that you're going for a stack.

03:09:992 (7,1) – This is pretty big spacing even for a ½ gap, and it makes 03:10:563 (1,2) – feel weird too. Try moving (1) to 200, 312.
03:19:134 (7,1) – Similar issue ^

03:16:277 (3,4) – So this flow is interesting and I like what you're doing with it. However, you use the same sort of “reaching” flow at 03:16:706 (4,5) - , and I don't like repeating flow here because (4) and (5) sound pretty different in the music and so should have different flows. I like the creativity you have here with these kind of sliders and want to let you work this one out, but if you'd like a suggestion: http://puu.sh/ocOny/8ca538c970.png

03:22:849 (3,4) – This is overlapping the HUD just a tiny bit on smaller screen sizes, so if it's possible to move it down at all, I'd suggest doing that.

[Extra]

The SV feels a little low.

00:31:277 (4,5) - There's a few places like this where a slightly higher spacing would feel a little nicer to go with the 1/1 break.
01:44:420 (4,5) – ^
02:28:563 (1,2) – ^ I'll stop here

00:53:420 (1) – This overlaps the HUD on smaller screen sizes, so it'd be nice if you could move this down somehow.
01:17:277 (6) – ^ some of these are gonna be minor like this, but if there's a way to move it, I think it would be preferable
01:39:849 (4) - ^
02:01:849 (9) - ^
02:29:992 (4) - ^
03:43:134 (4) -

02:09:992 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) – Consider the pacing of your map around here. You have a large difficulty spike to go with the drums, but then you revert back to the same baseline of intensity. With the introduction of the piano and other sounds at 02:11:134 (1) - , I'd like to see you build off of the big jumps and ½ rhythms by making this next section a little stronger in terms of spacing. Use the 1/1 slider at 02:11:134 (1) – as a rest after the intense section to reset the player, but then keep some of that energy by making the base spacing like at 02:12:134 (3) – and at 02:16:134 (2) - be 3.00x instead of ~2.60x, and make places like 02:14:992 (5,6,1) – a little bigger too, and I even think a slight SV increase to 1.00x would be nice.
00:55:706 (1) – Looking back, the same kind of thing can be said about this. The suggestion is a subtle change, but I think it could help make the pacing smoother

03:28:277 (8,9,10,11,1) – and 03:30:563 (6,7,8,9,1) – this is a lot of clockwise flow, and I think changing one of these up a bit could help out the patterns here, so try doing this for the second pattern: http://puu.sh/ocLKv/490998562c.jpg
03:32:849 (1,2,3,4) – and 03:33:420 (1,2,3,4) – again, I'd like to see these have different flow patterns because these parts of the music are pretty different, and it's a little repetitive to use this same clockwise flow.

Good luck!
Okoratu
Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator
4,912 posts
Joined May 2012
Topic Starter
Okoratu

pinataman wrote:

Hi. Here for M4M from your queue. Hope this helps!

[Nicoratu's Hard]

00:04:262 (3) – This is overlapping the HUD on lower screen sizes. Move all of 00:01:120 (1,2,1,2,3,4) – down for an easy fix

00:22:134 – This sounds like a stronger note in the song than 00:21:849 (2) - , so try a rhythm like this: http://puu.sh/ocDe2/17492adcbd.jpg
00:30:563 (1,2,3,4,5) – You can switch it up between these kinds of rhythms, and here might be a good place to do that too.

01:00:277 (1,2,3) – By unstacking (3) and using normal spacing, you give a little more emphasis to the strong drum on it, which I think would be nice.

01:13:420 (6) – This is kind of confusing to read with this spacing/stacking/flow (I thought (5) was a reverse slider since that would be the natural way to set up this (6) slider). Try going for a smoother flow like: http://puu.sh/ocDAf/0253456599.jpg

01:32:277 (1,1) – This overlap is kind of awkward. Maybe have 01:34:563 (1) – be the blanketed note instead like: http://puu.sh/ocDK4/2d5d72f07c.jpg

03:06:849 (2,3) – Consider making this a ¼ slider instead (still a little flustered from the hard section at 03:04:277 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - )

[Extra]

The SV feels a little low. that's the point of this diff, yes

00:31:277 (4,5) - There's a few places like this where a slightly higher spacing would feel a little nicer to go with the 1/1 break.
01:44:420 (4,5) – ^
02:28:563 (1,2) – ^ I'll stop here I tried to do something about the ones that felt too close

00:53:420 (1) – This overlaps the HUD on smaller screen sizes, so it'd be nice if you could move this down somehow.
01:17:277 (6) – ^ some of these are gonna be minor like this, but if there's a way to move it, I think it would be preferable
01:39:849 (4) - ^
02:01:849 (9) - ^
02:29:992 (4) - ^
03:43:134 (4) - i think i moved all of these slightly down but am not sure which res you checked thsi at ?

02:09:992 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) – Consider the pacing of your map around here. You have a large difficulty spike to go with the drums, but then you revert back to the same baseline of intensity. With the introduction of the piano and other sounds at 02:11:134 (1) - , I'd like to see you build off of the big jumps and ½ rhythms by making this next section a little stronger in terms of spacing. Use the 1/1 slider at 02:11:134 (1) – as a rest after the intense section to reset the player, but then keep some of that energy by making the base spacing like at 02:12:134 (3) – and at 02:16:134 (2) - be 3.00x instead of ~2.60x, and make places like 02:14:992 (5,6,1) – a little bigger too, and I even think a slight SV increase to 1.00x would be nice.
00:55:706 (1) – Looking back, the same kind of thing can be said about this. The suggestion is a subtle change, but I think it could help make the pacing smoother yeah my diff is not focused on the piano much, yes it does kick in in these sections and is pretty obvious, but when i mapped this 9 months ago all i focused on was the intensity of the drums and the pressure the vocalist has.
And i deliberately chose a slowdown for this section because drums went really strong just before it and then do calm things for the entire section so i chose to represent that with a combination of spacing which is focused on the vocals.

03:28:277 (8,9,10,11,1) – and 03:30:563 (6,7,8,9,1) – this is a lot of clockwise flow, and I think changing one of these up a bit could help out the patterns here, so try doing this for the second pattern: http://puu.sh/ocLKv/490998562c.jpg changed the 2nd one to flow counterclockwise
03:32:849 (1,2,3,4) – and 03:33:420 (1,2,3,4) – again, I'd like to see these have different flow patterns because these parts of the music are pretty different, and it's a little repetitive to use this same clockwise flow. uh i think due to the change in the middle of this ^ see this above, i don't see this as necessary and am actually quite fond of these 2 patterns. if i would have to choose one to change i'd also change the 2nd one here because the first one would make too much counterclockwise flow and i'm quite fond of this pattern as of now

Good luck!
Thank you!!

will see about the rest of the mods and follow up with m4ms soon
Battle
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Joined February 2014
Battle
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[Easy]
00:19:206 - I dunno what this green point is doing lol, it's SC:2 but the slider slide of SC:1 is muted anyways so aaa

00:24:277 (2,3) - I kinda find this a bit awkward, since like, you previously had notes that flowed into each other, the like, cut off of flow is mehhh

00:40:849 (3,1) - Consider facing 3's direction for the slider repeat downwards instead of to the side, currently there's just a COMPLETE cut off in flow, which is kinda awkward since moving the slider repeating end won't screw up ds or anything

00:48:277 (3,1) - Emphasis-wise, it's nice that it somewhat "resets" with the vocal or w/e, but flow-wise it's really like, SHARP

01:01:706 (2,3,4) - Flow makes it seem like after hitting 3, it would go to the slider end, not a sharp turn to the right, and this is mostly due to the fact that you have patterns like 00:59:134 (2,3,1) - , which go in like a straightline flow to the next note

02:14:563 (2,3,1) - I dunno, it seems a little ambiguous, and I'm not sure if players will pay attention to the fact that you break flow to emphasize vocals and will instead just go to whatever flows next zz

02:44:563 (3) - Maybe make both sides of wave thing same? This slider stuck out to me cuz it's just like, a lump lol

03:45:420 (2,3) - btw, you might want to look through parts to make sure blankets are good, cuz there's a couple fked up ones but no one likes blanket mods lol

that's about it for this diff lol, interesting mixture of sharp and smooth sliders xd

[Noz]
Umm, it kinda feels weird how CS goes 2.7 -> 3 -> 4, maybe reduce cs on this diff?

Maybe raise hp by like a .2 or sth to make hp a bit evener overall?

00:26:563 (3) - It's like, you have the whole 3/4 repeat thing going for you, but then you break it here. Sure the thing unique to this part is that there's like vocals, but then it's like the vocals aren't even technically just one held vocal, yet you have the directional change to match vocal so i dunno. I feel like it would be better to have it as that 3/4 repeat

00:43:992 (4,1) - 00:49:420 (1,2) - zz I took a quick look at sections around this relative position in the music, and it's like, you never reuse stacking elsewhere so structureeee (those parts with vocals and instruments playing)

01:27:134 (4,1,2,3,4) - I feel like having something stacked under four while all these notes are starting to appear on the screen is bound to cause some readability issues

02:29:420 (1,2,3) - Why not have it seperate instead of stacked like you did at 01:13:992 (1,2,3) - ?

02:47:706 (1) - clickable then spinner?

rest seems fine

[Nicoratu]
There's a pretty big jump from reading ar5 to reading ar8, maybe reduce ar a bit to improve spread?

00:26:563 (3) - Rhythm sounds slightly better if this is 1/2 slider, what do you think?

01:27:706 (1) - Hmm, last time you had 1/2 repeat, it fit since it started at vocal, this is kinda awkward since the vocal starts on repeat. And while the down beat is pretty prominent, I feel like the vocal is pretty prominent as well and doesn't really deserve to just be on a repeat end

02:43:134 (1) - Sammemee

02:47:706 - It's a pretty sudden drop in SV, maybe make it a little more progressively like, decreasing? So that way players have a bit time getting used to the music settling down a bit?

04:20:849 (8,9) - I kinda find it weird that it doesn't go something more like 04:11:420 (5,6,7,8) - since you've been doing that, sure there's the whooosh sound but I dunno, drums are still loud imo

[Vell]
00:03:405 (1,2) - I don't really get why this overlaps, kinda just seems messy ;;

00:07:977 - ;; You mapped the vocals here, and having the next time they start appear on a slider end is sadddddd

00:07:690 (6) - Speaking of sad

00:26:277 (2,3,4) - The way you make the players pause for a brief like, moment, is kinda ambiguous t b h. Pretty easy to mistake it for like 3 consecutive 1/4. Maybe do something similar to 00:29:134 (4,5,6) - ?

00:37:277 (8,1) - I feel like stacking here really takes away from the emphasis of the downbeat, mostly because you already have 1/4 things that are just like 00:36:706 (5,6,7) - where the spacing is pretty big, then you're followed up by a stacked thing with a strong beat on it :///

00:59:134 - The vocal on this is pretty prominent, maybe make this clickable?

01:01:420 (7) - 3/4 repeat doesn't work in this case imo, since the note that you have that follows it is pretty soft in the music at this point, maybe follow something pretty prominent here, like the vocal? (It would be a 1/2 repeat followed by w/e)

01:14:849 (4,5) - Maybe try?
z

01:25:992 (3) - Took a quick look at other kiais, nothing have a 1/4 repeat like this, so maybe map it out, cuz it's unstructured

02:19:134 (5,1) - Just to be safe, you might want to move 5 a little bit up, so that way later on you won't accidentally make it go off screen cuz it's pretty close to being offscreen

02:24:849 (8) - For something that's pretty strong in the music, it quickly get's "outshined" by sth like 02:25:992 (4,5) - spacing-wise lol

02:30:277 (4,5) - Maybe try that one rhythm I suggested, it's kinda awkward how vocals get heavily ignored ;;\

02:35:420 (1) - Maybe make this two 1/4 sliders instead? Pretty obvious note on blue tick

04:00:849 - Maybe make clickable then spin?

04:21:134 - Why not make this clickable? It's pretty audible imo

o god halfway there ;;

[Kihhou]
00:19:135 (1,2,3) - Most instances have you have 2 closer to 1, and then a jump on 3, this is reversed

00:28:134 (6,1) - I dunno, since you had the drum 1/4 separate, why not make this separate as well? It's weird that it's stacked w/ downbeat when it should be stacked no?

00:37:706 (2) - Kinda awkward how the repeat ends on a prominent drum beat, maybe make it clickable?

01:43:134 (1,2,3,4) - I just noticed, for these jumps, wouldn't it make sense for 1,2 to be together, then make a jump to 3,4? Since it's like the drums are like going in "pairs" so to speak (not good at music terminology kill me). I dunno,, it's weird that the jump is on a 1/4 (and ofc it's low bpm, which would make it a red tick on higher bpm) instead of the red tick (which would be a white tick in higher bpm)

01:48:277 (1,2,3) - Reversed again from what you should be doing :///

01:56:277 (4,5,6) - Although I do agree 5 is something worth emphasizing, I disagree with it being emphasized harder than 6, which I find more prominent, thoughts?

02:01:420 (4,5,6) - It feels like these notes are pretty equal in intensity, but 5,6 spacing is rather lackluster

02:02:277 (2,3,4) - Spacing for 2,3 is really lackluster despite the cymbal crash on 3, it just feels like a normal part of the combo which it shouldn't imo

02:10:563 (6,7,8,9) - If you didn't get what I meant for the drum pairing for 01:43:134 (1,2,3,4) -, this is what I mean

02:14:420 (3) - It's kinda like, sub-optimal imo for there to be a 1/4 slider on a 1/4 tick, mainly due to the note on 02:14:563 - which is ignored that has both the start of a vocal, and a piano note

02:36:420 (2) - It's kinda awk, since like, the vocal is starting on 02:36:563 - or at least some "sssssss" sound is happening there so i dunno if you want to make that clickable or not

03:17:992 (3,4) - tbh this stack kinda feels out of nowhere, on a related note, I feel like 03:18:277 - is like a toned down version of 3, so you could make it clickable since a repeat really doesn't do it justice zzzz

04:11:706 (3,4,5,6) - oooo I think I see what you've been doing for this now, but I feel like it's kinda awkward the way it's being executed, because you're emphasizing the drum pair, but then the small spacing for stuff like 04:11:849 (4,5) - doesn't make the separate pairs feels like they're separate, know what I mean?

04:16:849 (1,2,3) - Reversesdsdsdedad

sooooo long omfggggg

[Extra]
00:36:134 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - The flow is pretty sharp here, so I dunno if you wanna like smoother it out or sth with triangles but like, in play I personally find them fine (granted a lot of people say that mouse players don't have as good of flow lo)

01:21:849 (6,7) - Although it has a sharp-ish movement, I feel like this cymbal crash is lackluster compared to sth like the jumps that follow immediately afterwards

01:50:563 (1,2,3) - I feel like you should move 1 away from 2,3, since emphasizing 2 with a jump is pretty good plus you can make it feel pretty distinct if 01:50:706 (2,3,1,2) - are isolated together

03:03:706 (1,2,3,1,2) - samememe

03:14:134 (6,7) - I feel like you prefer those drums over these cymbals for emphasis #cymbalsneedlovetoo ;w;

[Elvis]
00:14:548 (2,3) - I feel like for this case, it doesn't really work out, since the music doesn't have anything really prominent on the blue tick like 00:09:977 (2,3) - did, maybe move it the white tick instead?

00:26:992 (5) - I personally feel like this should be clickable, but i dunno :// They're pretty prominent drums

01:15:706 (7,8,9,10) - hmm, I don't really see too much of a difference in the drums for 01:17:992 (1,2,1,2) - but they're spaced differently (they're fun in play though lol) the variety in the spacing makes it fun since you have one that's low spacing and then high spacing so I guess it's structured'

zz I really can't argue with your style because it's just REALLY fun when it's actually played
you might want to add a kiai or sth though lol, there's parts of the music more intense than other parts

[Extreeeeeme]
00:30:849 (2,3,4,5) - Although it's like, pretty clear 3,4 has larger spacing, visually it doesn't. Maybe move 2 a little bit closer to make it a more clear that that one note is emphasized cuz drums

01:04:706 (9,1) - Fix stack? lol

01:32:277 (1,2) - Even though the sound ends kinda like on the 1/8 tick, I feel like it plays a bit smoother when it's on the red tick instead

02:41:134 (2,4) - lol blanket

03:18:277 (4) - mm, I feel like it'skinda awkward since there's something audible on 03:18:563 - so maybe end it there and just put a note or sth?

03:24:563 (2,4) - #desperateblanketmod

04:07:706 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe ctrl + g 2 and re-adjust emphasis to make it flow a bit smoother

fun, i started this like 3 hours ago lol

format edit lol
J1NX1337
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J1NX1337

Underforest wrote:

[Collab Easy]
00:41:992 (1) - 00:44:277 (1) - Why not something like this?
- I want to follow the vocals here with the long sliders, so I don't think I'll be changing the pattern here.
00:48:849 (1) - Rotate 180° degrees - I don't really see why. This slider is more or less mimicking the previous slider in terms of shape and I think doing such a radical change to it would mess up my note positioning too much.
04:20:849 (3) - Soft-whistle at the tail? - up to oko

Kei wrote:

  • [Collab Easy]

    I found this diff to be too intense for an Easy. Some notes like 02:34:277 (1) for example could be removed to make this diff easier but that's just my personal opinion.
  1. 00:38:420 (2) - This 1/4 note is too much for an Easy diff. I think you could try some 1/2 rhythm instead, like this: - This diff will most likely be renamed to a Normal, Noz's to Advanced, so won't be touching the rhythm unless we come to another conclusion.
    SPOILER
  2. 00:47:563 (2) - Same here. - ^
  3. 01:59:706 (1) - This is very picky, lol but, could you move the red point 1 grid up? I think it looks better that way. - lol alright
  4. 02:02:992 (2) - Same about 1/4 sliders. - same

Battle wrote:

[Easy]
00:40:849 (3,1) - Consider facing 3's direction for the slider repeat downwards instead of to the side, currently there's just a COMPLETE cut off in flow, which is kinda awkward since moving the slider repeating end won't screw up ds or anything - I usually like to have such short reverse sliders reverse towards where they were approached from to make them more visually appealing, and I don't think the "flow break" is that bad because I think there's enough time between these notes to compensate for that, so I don't think I'll be changing this at least for now.

00:48:277 (3,1) - Emphasis-wise, it's nice that it somewhat "resets" with the vocal or w/e, but flow-wise it's really like, SHARP - Yeah, but I kinda like that reset idea and I don't see the flow as such a big problem there, especially after this gets renamed to Normal most likely, to represent the actual difficulty a bit better.
Thanks for the mods! :D
Battle
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Joined February 2014
Battle
dam you made that new diff quik
J1NX1337
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Joined February 2014
J1NX1337
speedmapper oko
Kihhou
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Joined March 2013
Kihhou

pinataman wrote:

Hi. Here for M4M from your queue. Hope this helps!

[Kihou's Insane]

00:54:563 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) – I have two issues with these jumps. One is that the strength of these jumps relative to the spacing you have directly around it is very strong, almost too strong. The other is that you don't have these kind of intense jumps in the kiai sections. I feel like the kiai is a stronger section of the song, so it should have the stronger patterns. So one thing you could do is make some measures like 01:22:706 (6,7,8,1) – into strong jumps. However, I'm inclined to just nerf the jumps here at 00:54:563 (1) by making (6,7) normal spacing (~1.8x). I think letting 00:55:420 (8,9) – be the star of this jump section fits with this being the loudest part of the measure, so I'd keep the jump into that and the downbeat at 00:55:706 (1) - . kiai doesnt necessarily need to be harder. i found this chorus to be weaker actually. regarding its spacing compared to the spacings around it, i feel its justified. the sudden increase in claps and the vocals and instruments die down and become softer.
02:09:992 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) – Same type of thing, same suggestion same thing ^
03:04:849 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) – This one has a similar issue, but try making 03:05:134 (4) – a ¼ slider and delete (5) and I think it works better. a ^. breaking consistency when theres a clap that would be on the 1/4 tail nah :/

01:28:277 (3) – might be nice to move this up a bit if you can since it's close to being off the edge uh ye o3o

01:31:992 (5,1) – I don't like this kind of stack, but that's just me i like it tho

01:41:706 (1,1,2,3,4) – This might not be the best way to reintroduce the map. Try going with a calmer rhythm after the spinner like two ¼ slider or a ¼ reverse slider and a circle. i recently removed the spinner but it wasnt updated :/ should be fine without the spinner

02:01:420 (4,5,6,1) – Can you explain your thought process behind this spacing? Why do you decrease the spacing after each note? What part of the music is declining in intensity this rapidly that would suggest to do this? I probably would have used normal spacing like at 01:22:706 (6,7,8,1) – theres no clap on the head of 6 and i want to express 02:01:992 (1) - 's lack of a normal/soft hitfinish compared to the drum finish it has. so it is weaker and quieter than things like 01:43:134 (1,2,3,4) -

02:45:563 (2,4) – I don't like perfectly stacking these on top of each other because it hides information from the player about where the next note is. I'd do +4x, +4y on (4) so the player has a chance to see that you're going for a stack. i feel like if youre able to play this map, you should be able to read this. it really isnt difficult imo with its spacing

03:09:992 (7,1) – This is pretty big spacing even for a ½ gap, and it makes 03:10:563 (1,2) – feel weird too. Try moving (1) to 200, 312. intentional. i dont want a jump to 03:10:849 (2) - as i feel the music smoothly flows into the pattern
03:19:134 (7,1) – Similar issue ^ samesame

03:16:277 (3,4) – So this flow is interesting and I like what you're doing with it. However, you use the same sort of “reaching” flow at 03:16:706 (4,5) - , and I don't like repeating flow here because (4) and (5) sound pretty different in the music and so should have different flows. I like the creativity you have here with these kind of sliders and want to let you work this one out, but if you'd like a suggestion: http://puu.sh/ocOny/8ca538c970.png i feel the break of rotation into a back and forth is enough to be a difference in flow

03:22:849 (3,4) – This is overlapping the HUD just a tiny bit on smaller screen sizes, so if it's possible to move it down at all, I'd suggest doing that. fixedd

Good luck!

Battle wrote:

eeeeeee

[Kihhou]
00:19:135 (1,2,3) - Most instances have you have 2 closer to 1, and then a jump on 3, this is reversed for sliders, no one really pulls all the way to the tail so it can be argued its closer to the slider end in gameplay. also , should focus more on the flow from and to that note o-o

00:28:134 (6,1) - I dunno, since you had the drum 1/4 separate, why not make this separate as well? It's weird that it's stacked w/ downbeat when it should be stacked no? im not sure what you mean by "It's weird that it's stacked w/ downbeat when it should be stacked no?" but i stacked to slow down flow to represent a slow down in the section after this pattern

00:37:706 (2) - Kinda awkward how the repeat ends on a prominent drum beat, maybe make it clickable? this is intentional in these sections. i chose to ignore drums for the vocals i found more important. adding a note would make it too dense when focusing on vocals

01:43:134 (1,2,3,4) - I just noticed, for these jumps, wouldn't it make sense for 1,2 to be together, then make a jump to 3,4? Since it's like the drums are like going in "pairs" so to speak (not good at music terminology kill me). I dunno,, it's weird that the jump is on a 1/4 (and ofc it's low bpm, which would make it a red tick on higher bpm) instead of the red tick (which would be a white tick in higher bpm) i didnt see a pair with 01:43:420 (3,4) - . i saw a lack of a clap at 01:43:420 (3) -

01:48:277 (1,2,3) - Reversed again from what you should be doing :/// its not about the distance but the flow :X 1->2 is one motion when 3 make a sharp change in direction

01:56:277 (4,5,6) - Although I do agree 5 is something worth emphasizing, I disagree with it being emphasized harder than 6, which I find more prominent, thoughts? true fixed!

02:01:420 (4,5,6) - It feels like these notes are pretty equal in intensity, but 5,6 spacing is rather lackluster the music has no clap at 6

02:02:277 (2,3,4) - Spacing for 2,3 is really lackluster despite the cymbal crash on 3, it just feels like a normal part of the combo which it shouldn't imo true. i tried to do something

02:10:563 (6,7,8,9) - If you didn't get what I meant for the drum pairing for 01:43:134 (1,2,3,4) -, this is what I mean i know o3o i just dont htink its the same

02:14:420 (3) - It's kinda like, sub-optimal imo for there to be a 1/4 slider on a 1/4 tick, mainly due to the note on 02:14:563 - which is ignored that has both the start of a vocal, and a piano note chose to follow drums here in this section. i actually really like this :c

02:36:420 (2) - It's kinda awk, since like, the vocal is starting on 02:36:563 - or at least some "sssssss" sound is happening there so i dunno if you want to make that clickable or not following drum here. vocal's ssssssssss isnt nearly important enough to map to and make clickable. i actually think if i mapped to vocals id still not make it clickable with how weak the sound is

03:17:992 (3,4) - tbh this stack kinda feels out of nowhere, on a related note, I feel like 03:18:277 - is like a toned down version of 3, so you could make it clickable since a repeat really doesn't do it justice zzzz true. i removed the stacks but i feel a slower rhythm than 03:18:563 (5,6) - is necessary to build up like the music. thats what the reverse sldier is for

04:11:706 (3,4,5,6) - oooo I think I see what you've been doing for this now, but I feel like it's kinda awkward the way it's being executed, because you're emphasizing the drum pair, but then the small spacing for stuff like 04:11:849 (4,5) - doesn't make the separate pairs feels like they're separate, know what I mean? i iknow what you mean but this was not my intention loool still works for both perspectives of this rhythm i guess!

04:16:849 (1,2,3) - Reversesdsdsdedad its not about the distance but the flow :X 1->2 is one motion when 3 make a sharp change in direction

fun, i started this like 3 hours ago lol

format edit lol
thank you both~

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WORSTPOLACKEU
511 posts
Joined May 2013
WORSTPOLACKEU
Part 1
SPOILER
23:04 WORSTPOLACKEU: why would they point that out
23:05 Okoratu: it looked "bad" before
23:05 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:26:563 (3) - I would place
23:05 Okoratu: this is the solution
23:05 WORSTPOLACKEU: this somewhere else tho
23:05 WORSTPOLACKEU: either more left
23:05 WORSTPOLACKEU: or more down
23:05 WORSTPOLACKEU: the motion gets more emphasised then with the song sounds
23:05 Okoratu: like http://puu.sh/odxMr/9abf60d712.jpg ?
23:05 WORSTPOLACKEU: yes
23:05 WORSTPOLACKEU: that works nice
23:06 Okoratu: looks visually nicer and is more equidistant
23:06 WORSTPOLACKEU: yes
23:06 Okoratu: as you may have noticed visuals are not my primary concern when mapping lol
23:06 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:28:277 (1,2,3,4) - this is so weird
23:06 WORSTPOLACKEU: yes I noticed HAHA
23:06 WORSTPOLACKEU: but your playability is very good
23:06 WORSTPOLACKEU: this is very weird 00:28:277 (1,2,3,4) -
23:06 WORSTPOLACKEU: but I like it
23:06 WORSTPOLACKEU: cause the sounds in song then are so fucking random also haha
23:07 Okoratu: what's so weird
23:07 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:28:563 (2,3) - like this
23:07 WORSTPOLACKEU: jump
23:07 WORSTPOLACKEU: is probably one of the last places I would put
23:07 WORSTPOLACKEU: but it works cool with those sounds
23:07 WORSTPOLACKEU: I wish I could sometimes do this
23:07 Okoratu: yah this song is weird
23:07 Okoratu: which is why many unorthodox stuff actually works XD
23:07 Okoratu: *a lot
23:07 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:28:134 (4) - 00:27:992 (3,4) -
23:08 WORSTPOLACKEU: I would but the 4 more downwards or left also
23:08 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:27:706 (1,3) -
23:08 WORSTPOLACKEU: copy that
23:08 WORSTPOLACKEU: and put it the same way
23:08 WORSTPOLACKEU: stack with the other note down there
23:08 WORSTPOLACKEU: like this, it plays much nicer imo
23:08 WORSTPOLACKEU: sec puushin
23:09 WORSTPOLACKEU: rip puush or smth
23:09 WORSTPOLACKEU: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4907128
23:09 WORSTPOLACKEU: here
23:09 Okoratu: so http://puu.sh/ody3E/186bac18f8.jpg
23:09 Okoratu: 1-2 and 3-4 are supposed to be ~approx~ equal distance
23:10 WORSTPOLACKEU: hm
23:10 Okoratu: and 2-3 a slight jump because sound pattern seems to start over
23:10 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeah then the way you puushed
23:10 WORSTPOLACKEU: is the best way to go
23:10 WORSTPOLACKEU: I just thought you need to go more left with the last note so it's not such a drastic change in cursor motion while jumping to next note
23:11 Okoratu: puts a lot of pressure on the next note
23:11 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:29:277 (5,8) - you can blanket this better if needed
23:11 Okoratu: that would fit the cymbal right ?
23:11 WORSTPOLACKEU: yes
23:11 WORSTPOLACKEU: true
23:11 Okoratu: i dont think i need that tbh lol
23:11 Okoratu: xD
23:11 WORSTPOLACKEU: LOL
23:12 Okoratu: i came up
23:12 Okoratu: with
23:12 *Okoratu is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/892543 Komiya Mao - (can you) understand me? [insane?]]
23:12 Okoratu: this style
23:12 Okoratu: so that ppl stop blanket mods
23:12 WORSTPOLACKEU: ah yeah I saw that map
23:12 Okoratu: basically a 2010 slider only diff
23:12 WORSTPOLACKEU: well I don't rly like
23:12 Okoratu: xD
23:13 WORSTPOLACKEU: blankets either except when I want them
23:13 WORSTPOLACKEU: not forced blankets
23:13 WORSTPOLACKEU: but ppl are so picky <.
23:13 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:32:420 (9,10,11) -
23:13 WORSTPOLACKEU: I don't like the place of those notes
23:13 Okoratu: why ?
23:13 WORSTPOLACKEU: I have no idea
23:13 WORSTPOLACKEU: I just tried to put it somewhere else
23:14 WORSTPOLACKEU: and I didnt even find a solution so nvm lol
23:14 Okoratu: moved the thing a bit more to the left
23:14 Okoratu: dunno if thats better
23:14 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:37:277 (9) - this required
23:14 WORSTPOLACKEU: requires
23:14 Okoratu: but looks a bit nicer if 00:31:992 (7,11) - arent so close
23:14 WORSTPOLACKEU: more spacing imo
23:14 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeah I think that was the problem
23:15 Okoratu: as i interpret these drums they become more quiet towards the end
23:15 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeah but you made the sound go louder on last one
23:15 WORSTPOLACKEU: I thought it was fitting
23:16 WORSTPOLACKEU: but that works
23:16 Okoratu: what is hte last one
23:16 WORSTPOLACKEU: it's your intepretation
23:16 WORSTPOLACKEU: and it's not wrong what you did
23:16 Okoratu: 00:37:277 (9,1) -
23:16 WORSTPOLACKEU: I just would do sometehing else
23:16 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeah I just
23:16 WORSTPOLACKEU: noticed that aswell
23:16 WORSTPOLACKEU: hah
23:16 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:39:134 (6,7,9) -
23:16 Okoratu: hm
23:16 WORSTPOLACKEU: put 9
23:16 WORSTPOLACKEU: equal distance form 6 7
23:17 Okoratu: where would you put 9?
23:17 Okoratu: maybe we talk about 2 different things here and mean the same
23:17 Okoratu: xD
23:17 WORSTPOLACKEU: wait you talk about the note on drums right
23:17 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:37:277 (9) -
23:17 WORSTPOLACKEU: this
23:17 Okoratu: ya
23:17 Okoratu: 00:37:134 (8,9) - are less loud than 00:36:849 (6,7) - imo
23:18 Okoratu: as drums go
23:18 WORSTPOLACKEU: hm
23:18 Okoratu: so spacing throughout 00:36:849 (6,7,8,9) - decreases slightly
23:18 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeah
23:18 WORSTPOLACKEU: I just like to extend spacing
23:18 WORSTPOLACKEU: before a new part
23:18 WORSTPOLACKEU: of a song
23:18 Okoratu: o
23:18 Okoratu: i like to do something special towards the end of sections as well
23:18 Okoratu: but the song offered such a weird drum pattern just before
23:18 Okoratu: so im like lol
23:19 WORSTPOLACKEU: you have
23:19 WORSTPOLACKEU: hm
23:19 WORSTPOLACKEU: you can make cool triangle pattern haha
23:19 WORSTPOLACKEU: wait
23:19 Okoratu: i like the backforthpattern too
23:19 Okoratu: :o
23:19 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeah
23:19 WORSTPOLACKEU: I will not change
23:19 WORSTPOLACKEU: my suggestion
23:19 WORSTPOLACKEU: would be
23:19 WORSTPOLACKEU: hm
23:19 WORSTPOLACKEU: I can still show you maybe you like it ?
23:20 Okoratu: sure
23:20 WORSTPOLACKEU: lol
23:20 WORSTPOLACKEU: I thought this played very cool with those drums
23:20 WORSTPOLACKEU: and it fits nicely with next pattern
23:20 WORSTPOLACKEU: and the start
23:20 WORSTPOLACKEU: puushin
23:20 WORSTPOLACKEU: with the randomness of the song aswell
23:20 WORSTPOLACKEU: http://puu.sh/odyTh/cfa710c191.txt
23:21 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:36:277 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) -
23:21 Okoratu: i thought
23:21 Okoratu: you were going to screen it
23:21 WORSTPOLACKEU: well
23:21 Okoratu: but you just rearranged the entire pattern ?
23:21 Okoratu: hm
23:21 WORSTPOLACKEU: not really rearranged
23:21 Okoratu: i should update
23:21 WORSTPOLACKEU: well
23:21 WORSTPOLACKEU: a bit
23:21 WORSTPOLACKEU: i made new diff for this
23:21 WORSTPOLACKEU: dw
23:21 WORSTPOLACKEU: new name
23:21 WORSTPOLACKEU: I thought screen wouldn't give you the opportunity to see this with the song
23:21 WORSTPOLACKEU: kinda
23:22 WORSTPOLACKEU: I just changed 3 notes I think
23:22 WORSTPOLACKEU: that's just a suggestion tho
23:23 Okoratu: hmmm...
23:23 WORSTPOLACKEU: I really like the fact
23:23 Okoratu: your pattern plays nicely as well
23:23 WORSTPOLACKEU: that you map
23:23 WORSTPOLACKEU: like without visual care
23:23 WORSTPOLACKEU: but it's still coming out so good
23:23 Okoratu: but it doesn't quite do what my intention was with it
23:24 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeah I understood that
23:24 Okoratu: lool
23:24 Okoratu: i am collecting different styles
23:24 WORSTPOLACKEU: I suck at decreasing spacings
23:24 WORSTPOLACKEU: XD
23:24 Okoratu: i even have one that you might like looking at
23:24 Okoratu: XD
23:24 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:39:563 (9) -
23:24 WORSTPOLACKEU: put this in between that triple pls xD
23:24 Okoratu: i think i'll keep mine for this pattern
23:24 WORSTPOLACKEU: that looks ass haha
23:24 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeah sure !
23:25 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:41:563 (8) - and here
23:25 WORSTPOLACKEU: lol
23:25 WORSTPOLACKEU: actually you might just keep every single one of those cause
23:25 WORSTPOLACKEU: it kinda is the style maybe
23:25 WORSTPOLACKEU: map gets the special weird spacing thing
23:25 Okoratu: you mean http://puu.sh/odzeK/8b53021e1d.jpg
23:25 WORSTPOLACKEU: which is kinda cool
23:25 Okoratu: ?
23:25 WORSTPOLACKEU: yes
23:25 WORSTPOLACKEU: but you can keep
23:25 WORSTPOLACKEU: cause I see this everywehre
23:25 WORSTPOLACKEU: and I feel
23:25 WORSTPOLACKEU: like I am destroying
23:26 WORSTPOLACKEU: part of how you map
23:26 Okoratu: this is me not caring about visuals that much
23:26 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:41:563 (8) -
23:26 WORSTPOLACKEU: oh
23:26 WORSTPOLACKEU: you want me to point that out
23:26 WORSTPOLACKEU: then
23:26 Okoratu: it doesn't destroy anything in gameplay
23:26 WORSTPOLACKEU: or not
23:26 Okoratu: right ?
23:26 WORSTPOLACKEU: uh
23:26 WORSTPOLACKEU: depends
23:26 Okoratu: it usually doesn't
23:26 WORSTPOLACKEU: it usually doesn't
23:26 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:41:563 (8) - but
23:26 WORSTPOLACKEU: is there a reason why you WOULDN'T put it
23:26 Okoratu: http://puu.sh/odzlb/2a6932e4b9.jpg ?
23:26 WORSTPOLACKEU: in equal range there?
23:26 Okoratu: no
23:26 Okoratu: there isn't
23:27 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeah that's the thing, but at the same time
23:27 Okoratu: it's just that i don't care either way so i might as well do it
23:27 Okoratu: xD
23:27 WORSTPOLACKEU: it doesn't really do anything with the gameplay heh
23:27 WORSTPOLACKEU: ye okay I'll try to find them
23:27 Okoratu: how do 00:43:420 (5,6,7,1) -
23:27 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:42:706 (2,3,4) - this is intended
23:27 Okoratu: play ?
23:27 WORSTPOLACKEU: right
23:28 WORSTPOLACKEU: hm
23:28 Okoratu: the uneven spacing ?
23:28 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeah
23:28 Okoratu: yeah because if even spacing it would overlap
23:28 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeh I thought so
23:28 Okoratu: and i don't want to change flow because of that
23:28 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:43:992 (6) -
23:28 WORSTPOLACKEU: this
23:28 WORSTPOLACKEU: hm
23:28 WORSTPOLACKEU: I mean this pattern looks nice
23:28 WORSTPOLACKEU: but might be weird to play
23:29 WORSTPOLACKEU: the flow doesnt work with the slider before
23:30 Okoratu: avishay mentioned this and i denied it because that's the kind of rough movement i wanted to use the break for
23:30 WORSTPOLACKEU: ah okay
23:30 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:48:277 (6,7,8,9,2) -
23:30 WORSTPOLACKEU: lol
23:31 WORSTPOLACKEU: XD
23:31 WORSTPOLACKEU: make them equal range lol
23:31 Okoratu: what do yo umean
23:31 WORSTPOLACKEU: like
23:31 WORSTPOLACKEU: they are different range from each other
23:32 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:48:420 (7,9) -
23:32 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:48:277 (6,8) -
23:32 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:48:277 (6,9) -
23:32 Okoratu: o
23:32 Okoratu: u mean that
23:32 WORSTPOLACKEU: yes haha
23:32 Okoratu: is that http://puu.sh/odzN8/12f12ebaca.jpg
23:32 Okoratu: better ?
23:32 WORSTPOLACKEU: use ds for that
23:33 WORSTPOLACKEU: it's like
23:33 WORSTPOLACKEU: 6-8 is still farther away than the others
23:33 WORSTPOLACKEU: I would say in those patterns it might be important to keep same distance
23:33 WORSTPOLACKEU: for the sake of not having someone miss because it was 5 pixels off somehow maybe
23:34 Okoratu: ok
23:34 Okoratu: http://puu.sh/odzWN/097f970d6c.jpg
23:34 Okoratu: this is best i can do case closed
23:34 WORSTPOLACKEU: haha okay
23:34 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:53:134 (5,6,1) -
23:35 WORSTPOLACKEU: make this sharper like your last one ?
23:35 WORSTPOLACKEU: or is it just me
23:35 WORSTPOLACKEU: that it's not as sharp
23:35 WORSTPOLACKEU: like spacing wise
23:35 Okoratu: i was lik
23:35 Okoratu: the angle is pretty sharp
23:35 Okoratu: but you mean space
23:35 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeh
23:36 Okoratu: uh
23:36 WORSTPOLACKEU: but it's alright
23:36 WORSTPOLACKEU: I think I just feel it's not as spaced because it goes back n forth
23:37 Okoratu: im testing
23:37 Okoratu: how much space i can give to
23:37 Okoratu: 00:53:420 (1) - without it feeling retarded
23:37 Okoratu: because it's different from 00:44:277 (1) -
23:37 WORSTPOLACKEU: ye
23:37 Okoratu: it doesn't abruptly catch your motion from the previous objects by being a different angle itself
23:38 Okoratu: if i place 00:53:420 (1) - too far it'll feel awkward af
23:38 WORSTPOLACKEU: well it's fine I guess
23:38 Okoratu: ok i found a solution i think
23:38 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:54:134 (2) - this is too close to the previous note definitely
23:38 Okoratu: http://puu.sh/odAet/9d51523f58.jpg
23:39 Okoratu: 6 is further down, 1 is further up
23:39 Okoratu: and the angle overall is even sharper than before
23:39 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeh saw
23:39 WORSTPOLACKEU: that will work
23:39 Okoratu: it is not 1.75x
23:39 WORSTPOLACKEU: but it's aftera slider
23:39 WORSTPOLACKEU: motion after a slider is always easier than note to note
23:40 Okoratu: i was telling you how much distance it has now
23:40 Okoratu: after moving the slider before it
23:40 WORSTPOLACKEU: ah
23:40 Okoratu: tbh that feels fine to me in play
23:40 Okoratu: idk
23:40 WORSTPOLACKEU: you can leave it
23:40 WORSTPOLACKEU: I just tend to think like
23:41 WORSTPOLACKEU: hm maybe it's because it's straight line
23:41 WORSTPOLACKEU: I dunno
23:41 WORSTPOLACKEU: it's probably fine
23:41 Okoratu: i leave it because idk where to take the space from
23:41 WORSTPOLACKEU: next issue lol
23:41 WORSTPOLACKEU: uh
23:41 Okoratu: u would need to make it more spaced lol
23:41 WORSTPOLACKEU: u can put it
23:41 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:54:563 (1,5) -
23:41 WORSTPOLACKEU: between those
23:41 Okoratu: ok i did that but i don't think it chagnes much lol
23:42 WORSTPOLACKEU: I mean like to the left
23:42 WORSTPOLACKEU: and it does change a lot haha
23:42 WORSTPOLACKEU: straight motions are always more awkward to play
23:42 WORSTPOLACKEU: since you either stop at the note and jump to the next one without changing angle/direction
23:42 WORSTPOLACKEU: when you have a slight direction change
23:42 WORSTPOLACKEU: it's easier to stop at a spot
23:43 Okoratu: i think less movement works better for these idk
23:43 WORSTPOLACKEU: your call
23:43 Okoratu: but then again
23:43 Okoratu: you play tablet and keyboard
23:43 Okoratu: rite
23:43 WORSTPOLACKEU: yes
23:43 Okoratu: i can only test with mouse and keyboard
23:43 Okoratu: so this pattern might feel completely fine to me and odd to ppl with tablets
23:43 WORSTPOLACKEU: the thing is with tablets
23:43 WORSTPOLACKEU: if you do movement like
23:44 WORSTPOLACKEU: with equal spacing between all notes in a straight pattern
23:44 WORSTPOLACKEU: you either have to snap at those points fast or go through them in same speed
23:44 Okoratu: i like that for a few notes
23:44 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeah sure
23:44 WORSTPOLACKEU: if it fits what you wanted to do !
23:44 Okoratu: its not like the entire map is that
23:44 Okoratu: xd
23:44 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:55:706 (1) - move this
23:44 WORSTPOLACKEU: a bit to the right
23:44 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:54:706 (2,3,4) -
23:44 WORSTPOLACKEU: overlaps that
23:44 WORSTPOLACKEU: horribly :D
23:45 WORSTPOLACKEU: I KNOW IT'S FAR AFTER IT
23:45 WORSTPOLACKEU: BUT IT ANNOYS ME XD
23:45 Okoratu: oh
23:45 Okoratu: yeah
23:45 Okoratu: sure
23:45 Okoratu: avishay told me the jump pattern is uncomfortable
23:45 WORSTPOLACKEU: which one
23:45 WORSTPOLACKEU: before it ?
23:45 Okoratu: the one before that long slider
23:45 WORSTPOLACKEU: it is probably because of this
23:45 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:55:134 (6,7,1,2) -
23:45 Okoratu: but i don't really get it because it feels fine to me
23:46 WORSTPOLACKEU: I think it should be like
23:46 WORSTPOLACKEU: hm
23:46 WORSTPOLACKEU: try rearrange
23:46 WORSTPOLACKEU: so the last note
23:46 WORSTPOLACKEU: nvm
23:46 WORSTPOLACKEU: rephrasing
23:46 Okoratu: but i like the back forth up down thing it does right now
23:46 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeah
23:47 WORSTPOLACKEU: the awkward thing is because of this
23:47 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:55:277 (7,2) -
23:47 WORSTPOLACKEU: the first up and down is there
23:47 WORSTPOLACKEU: next goes higher up
23:47 WORSTPOLACKEU: and goes in a jump up right
23:47 WORSTPOLACKEU: I think if it was the other way around
23:47 Okoratu: to accentuate 00:55:420 (1) -
23:47 WORSTPOLACKEU: yes
23:47 WORSTPOLACKEU: if you do the opposite of what you did
23:47 WORSTPOLACKEU: you will get that "accent" you are looking for
23:47 Okoratu: then i have the opposite
23:47 WORSTPOLACKEU: yes
23:47 Okoratu: the
23:48 Okoratu: xd
23:48 Okoratu: i want more pressure moving from 5-6 and from 7-1
23:48 Okoratu: that was the idea of this pattern
23:48 WORSTPOLACKEU: then
23:48 WORSTPOLACKEU: move this
23:48 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:55:563 (2) -
23:48 WORSTPOLACKEU: to
23:49 Okoratu: did something different xd
23:49 WORSTPOLACKEU: Im trying to find solution
23:49 WORSTPOLACKEU: the thing is
23:49 WORSTPOLACKEU: you need movement here
23:49 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:55:563 (2,1) -
23:49 Okoratu: i moved 7 to the left
23:49 WORSTPOLACKEU: you need this movement to be comfortable
23:49 WORSTPOLACKEU: and it isn't with your current pattern
23:49 Okoratu: i moved 00:55:277 (7) - to the left
23:50 WORSTPOLACKEU: yes
23:50 WORSTPOLACKEU: but then
23:50 Okoratu: and 00:55:277 (7) - to the left as well and a bit down
23:50 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:55:563 (2) -
23:50 WORSTPOLACKEU: move that down and right a bit
23:50 WORSTPOLACKEU: I am thinking of the opposite lol
23:50 WORSTPOLACKEU: like
23:50 WORSTPOLACKEU: hm
23:50 WORSTPOLACKEU: sec
23:51 Okoratu: hm
23:51 WORSTPOLACKEU: this pattern is indeed weird
23:51 WORSTPOLACKEU: hm
23:52 Okoratu: aa
23:52 WORSTPOLACKEU: I found
23:52 WORSTPOLACKEU: a pretty good way
23:52 WORSTPOLACKEU: maybe
23:52 WORSTPOLACKEU: hm
23:52 Okoratu: its so dumb to test the whole map to just get to one pattern
23:52 Okoratu: like i just did that and then i pay extra attention to the thing
23:53 WORSTPOLACKEU: well
23:53 WORSTPOLACKEU: u sometimes have to
23:53 WORSTPOLACKEU: sacrifice
23:54 Okoratu: now
23:54 Okoratu: im missing 00:54:992 (5) -
23:54 WORSTPOLACKEU: hm
23:54 WORSTPOLACKEU: how about
23:54 WORSTPOLACKEU: this
23:54 Okoratu: fuck
23:54 Okoratu: what
23:54 WORSTPOLACKEU: okay
23:55 WORSTPOLACKEU: this has to work
23:55 WORSTPOLACKEU: wait
23:55 WORSTPOLACKEU: http://puu.sh/odBmR/4a7804c689.txt
23:55 WORSTPOLACKEU: ?
23:55 WORSTPOLACKEU: what do you think
23:55 Okoratu: i found something that works for me
23:56 WORSTPOLACKEU: oh well then
23:56 Okoratu: lets see yours
23:56 WORSTPOLACKEU: i go quick brb 2 min okay?
23:56 Okoratu: i did something similar
23:58 Okoratu: wait a moment i'll update that
00:02 Okoratu: does this work :d
00:02 WORSTPOLACKEU: back
00:02 WORSTPOLACKEU: letäs see
00:02 WORSTPOLACKEU: yes that works aswell!
00:03 WORSTPOLACKEU: nobody cant say that plays bad
00:03 WORSTPOLACKEU: it plays good
00:03 WORSTPOLACKEU: :)
00:03 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:58:849 (3) - I would put this on sliderend
00:03 WORSTPOLACKEU: nice transition haha
00:03 WORSTPOLACKEU: I just like that pattern when note to slider
00:04 WORSTPOLACKEU: http://puu.sh/odBVP/1f3ac51b60.jpg
00:04 WORSTPOLACKEU: ha
00:04 Okoratu: which sliderend
00:04 WORSTPOLACKEU: 01:00:849 (2,3,4) - love this
00:04 WORSTPOLACKEU: 01:04:563 (8) - put this ionside 01:04:849 (1) - aswell
00:06 Okoratu: puush
00:06 Okoratu: wait a moment
00:06 Okoratu: slow down
00:06 Okoratu: dont die on my
00:06 Okoratu: me
00:06 Okoratu: http://puu.sh/odC4p/5e51935364.jpg
00:06 WORSTPOLACKEU: lol
00:06 Okoratu: was the first thin i did
00:07 Okoratu: when i heard
00:07 Okoratu: sliderend
00:07 WORSTPOLACKEU: o
00:07 WORSTPOLACKEU: in the sldier nr 4
00:07 WORSTPOLACKEU: on that slider end
00:07 Okoratu: 00:59:420 (5) -
00:07 Okoratu: i like that as well tbh
00:07 Okoratu: hm
00:07 Okoratu: both are cool
00:07 Okoratu: ill take yours
00:08 Okoratu: i thought you'd say 01:00:849 (2,4) - blanket
00:08 Okoratu: or somet higna
00:08 Okoratu: sdfhaklsdf
00:08 Okoratu: ekjalsd
00:08 WORSTPOLACKEU: well
00:08 WORSTPOLACKEU: u can blanket that too
00:08 WORSTPOLACKEU: XD
00:08 WORSTPOLACKEU: but I like that pattern
00:08 Okoratu: did that differently
00:08 Okoratu: the last thing you said
00:09 WORSTPOLACKEU: okay
00:12 WORSTPOLACKEU: 02:08:563 (6,7,1) -
00:12 WORSTPOLACKEU: awkward
00:13 Okoratu: did you die
00:13 Okoratu: o
00:13 Okoratu: you didnt die!!
00:13 WORSTPOLACKEU: nono
00:13 WORSTPOLACKEU: lol
00:16 WORSTPOLACKEU: 02:14:277 (3,4) -
00:16 WORSTPOLACKEU: blanket with slider
00:16 WORSTPOLACKEU: instead
00:16 WORSTPOLACKEU: plays nicely
00:17 WORSTPOLACKEU: 02:42:563 (7,8,9,10) - very uncomfortable
00:18 Okoratu: hm
00:18 Okoratu: wait a moment
00:18 Okoratu: im still
00:19 Okoratu: ill update again
00:20 Okoratu: 02:07:992 (5) - update and look at dis
00:20 WORSTPOLACKEU: okay
00:20 WORSTPOLACKEU: update
00:21 Okoratu: is that better ?
00:21 WORSTPOLACKEU: latest pending
00:21 WORSTPOLACKEU: version
00:21 WORSTPOLACKEU: u didnt upload
00:22 Okoratu: IT DOESNT WANT TO UPDATE
00:22 WORSTPOLACKEU: XDD
00:24 Okoratu: wtf
00:24 Okoratu: i'll restart
00:24 WORSTPOLACKEU: puush
00:24 WORSTPOLACKEU: txt
00:24 WORSTPOLACKEU: instead
00:24 WORSTPOLACKEU: restart doesnt help
00:24 WORSTPOLACKEU: atleast not me
00:24 WORSTPOLACKEU: when I have that
00:24 Okoratu: its dumb if i can't update the map
00:24 Okoratu: well i can
00:24 Okoratu: but it doesnt
00:24 Okoratu: >update<
00:24 WORSTPOLACKEU: I know
00:24 WORSTPOLACKEU: its servers

part 2
SPOILER
23:30 WORSTPOLACKEU: lol
23:31 WORSTPOLACKEU: XD
23:31 WORSTPOLACKEU: make them equal range lol
23:31 Okoratu: what do yo umean
23:31 WORSTPOLACKEU: like
23:31 WORSTPOLACKEU: they are different range from each other
23:32 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:48:420 (7,9) -
23:32 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:48:277 (6,8) -
23:32 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:48:277 (6,9) -
23:32 Okoratu: o
23:32 Okoratu: u mean that
23:32 WORSTPOLACKEU: yes haha
23:32 Okoratu: is that http://puu.sh/odzN8/12f12ebaca.jpg
23:32 Okoratu: better ?
23:32 WORSTPOLACKEU: use ds for that
23:33 WORSTPOLACKEU: it's like
23:33 WORSTPOLACKEU: 6-8 is still farther away than the others
23:33 WORSTPOLACKEU: I would say in those patterns it might be important to keep same distance
23:33 WORSTPOLACKEU: for the sake of not having someone miss because it was 5 pixels off somehow maybe
23:34 Okoratu: ok
23:34 Okoratu: http://puu.sh/odzWN/097f970d6c.jpg
23:34 Okoratu: this is best i can do case closed
23:34 WORSTPOLACKEU: haha okay
23:34 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:53:134 (5,6,1) -
23:35 WORSTPOLACKEU: make this sharper like your last one ?
23:35 WORSTPOLACKEU: or is it just me
23:35 WORSTPOLACKEU: that it's not as sharp
23:35 WORSTPOLACKEU: like spacing wise
23:35 Okoratu: i was lik
23:35 Okoratu: the angle is pretty sharp
23:35 Okoratu: but you mean space
23:35 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeh
23:36 Okoratu: uh
23:36 WORSTPOLACKEU: but it's alright
23:36 WORSTPOLACKEU: I think I just feel it's not as spaced because it goes back n forth
23:37 Okoratu: im testing
23:37 Okoratu: how much space i can give to
23:37 Okoratu: 00:53:420 (1) - without it feeling retarded
23:37 Okoratu: because it's different from 00:44:277 (1) -
23:37 WORSTPOLACKEU: ye
23:37 Okoratu: it doesn't abruptly catch your motion from the previous objects by being a different angle itself
23:38 Okoratu: if i place 00:53:420 (1) - too far it'll feel awkward af
23:38 WORSTPOLACKEU: well it's fine I guess
23:38 Okoratu: ok i found a solution i think
23:38 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:54:134 (2) - this is too close to the previous note definitely
23:38 Okoratu: http://puu.sh/odAet/9d51523f58.jpg
23:39 Okoratu: 6 is further down, 1 is further up
23:39 Okoratu: and the angle overall is even sharper than before
23:39 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeh saw
23:39 WORSTPOLACKEU: that will work
23:39 Okoratu: it is not 1.75x
23:39 WORSTPOLACKEU: but it's aftera slider
23:39 WORSTPOLACKEU: motion after a slider is always easier than note to note
23:40 Okoratu: i was telling you how much distance it has now
23:40 Okoratu: after moving the slider before it
23:40 WORSTPOLACKEU: ah
23:40 Okoratu: tbh that feels fine to me in play
23:40 Okoratu: idk
23:40 WORSTPOLACKEU: you can leave it
23:40 WORSTPOLACKEU: I just tend to think like
23:41 WORSTPOLACKEU: hm maybe it's because it's straight line
23:41 WORSTPOLACKEU: I dunno
23:41 WORSTPOLACKEU: it's probably fine
23:41 Okoratu: i leave it because idk where to take the space from
23:41 WORSTPOLACKEU: next issue lol
23:41 WORSTPOLACKEU: uh
23:41 Okoratu: u would need to make it more spaced lol
23:41 WORSTPOLACKEU: u can put it
23:41 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:54:563 (1,5) -
23:41 WORSTPOLACKEU: between those
23:41 Okoratu: ok i did that but i don't think it chagnes much lol
23:42 WORSTPOLACKEU: I mean like to the left
23:42 WORSTPOLACKEU: and it does change a lot haha
23:42 WORSTPOLACKEU: straight motions are always more awkward to play
23:42 WORSTPOLACKEU: since you either stop at the note and jump to the next one without changing angle/direction
23:42 WORSTPOLACKEU: when you have a slight direction change
23:42 WORSTPOLACKEU: it's easier to stop at a spot
23:43 Okoratu: i think less movement works better for these idk
23:43 WORSTPOLACKEU: your call
23:43 Okoratu: but then again
23:43 Okoratu: you play tablet and keyboard
23:43 Okoratu: rite
23:43 WORSTPOLACKEU: yes
23:43 Okoratu: i can only test with mouse and keyboard
23:43 Okoratu: so this pattern might feel completely fine to me and odd to ppl with tablets
23:43 WORSTPOLACKEU: the thing is with tablets
23:43 WORSTPOLACKEU: if you do movement like
23:44 WORSTPOLACKEU: with equal spacing between all notes in a straight pattern
23:44 WORSTPOLACKEU: you either have to snap at those points fast or go through them in same speed
23:44 Okoratu: i like that for a few notes
23:44 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeah sure
23:44 WORSTPOLACKEU: if it fits what you wanted to do !
23:44 Okoratu: its not like the entire map is that
23:44 Okoratu: xd
23:44 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:55:706 (1) - move this
23:44 WORSTPOLACKEU: a bit to the right
23:44 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:54:706 (2,3,4) -
23:44 WORSTPOLACKEU: overlaps that
23:44 WORSTPOLACKEU: horribly :D
23:45 WORSTPOLACKEU: I KNOW IT'S FAR AFTER IT
23:45 WORSTPOLACKEU: BUT IT ANNOYS ME XD
23:45 Okoratu: oh
23:45 Okoratu: yeah
23:45 Okoratu: sure
23:45 Okoratu: avishay told me the jump pattern is uncomfortable
23:45 WORSTPOLACKEU: which one
23:45 WORSTPOLACKEU: before it ?
23:45 Okoratu: the one before that long slider
23:45 WORSTPOLACKEU: it is probably because of this
23:45 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:55:134 (6,7,1,2) -
23:45 Okoratu: but i don't really get it because it feels fine to me
23:46 WORSTPOLACKEU: I think it should be like
23:46 WORSTPOLACKEU: hm
23:46 WORSTPOLACKEU: try rearrange
23:46 WORSTPOLACKEU: so the last note
23:46 WORSTPOLACKEU: nvm
23:46 WORSTPOLACKEU: rephrasing
23:46 Okoratu: but i like the back forth up down thing it does right now
23:46 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeah
23:47 WORSTPOLACKEU: the awkward thing is because of this
23:47 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:55:277 (7,2) -
23:47 WORSTPOLACKEU: the first up and down is there
23:47 WORSTPOLACKEU: next goes higher up
23:47 WORSTPOLACKEU: and goes in a jump up right
23:47 WORSTPOLACKEU: I think if it was the other way around
23:47 Okoratu: to accentuate 00:55:420 (1) -
23:47 WORSTPOLACKEU: yes
23:47 WORSTPOLACKEU: if you do the opposite of what you did
23:47 WORSTPOLACKEU: you will get that "accent" you are looking for
23:47 Okoratu: then i have the opposite
23:47 WORSTPOLACKEU: yes
23:47 Okoratu: the
23:48 Okoratu: xd
23:48 Okoratu: i want more pressure moving from 5-6 and from 7-1
23:48 Okoratu: that was the idea of this pattern
23:48 WORSTPOLACKEU: then
23:48 WORSTPOLACKEU: move this
23:48 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:55:563 (2) -
23:48 WORSTPOLACKEU: to
23:49 Okoratu: did something different xd
23:49 WORSTPOLACKEU: Im trying to find solution
23:49 WORSTPOLACKEU: the thing is
23:49 WORSTPOLACKEU: you need movement here
23:49 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:55:563 (2,1) -
23:49 Okoratu: i moved 7 to the left
23:49 WORSTPOLACKEU: you need this movement to be comfortable
23:49 WORSTPOLACKEU: and it isn't with your current pattern
23:49 Okoratu: i moved 00:55:277 (7) - to the left
23:50 WORSTPOLACKEU: yes
23:50 WORSTPOLACKEU: but then
23:50 Okoratu: and 00:55:277 (7) - to the left as well and a bit down
23:50 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:55:563 (2) -
23:50 WORSTPOLACKEU: move that down and right a bit
23:50 WORSTPOLACKEU: I am thinking of the opposite lol
23:50 WORSTPOLACKEU: like
23:50 WORSTPOLACKEU: hm
23:50 WORSTPOLACKEU: sec
23:51 Okoratu: hm
23:51 WORSTPOLACKEU: this pattern is indeed weird
23:51 WORSTPOLACKEU: hm
23:52 Okoratu: aa
23:52 WORSTPOLACKEU: I found
23:52 WORSTPOLACKEU: a pretty good way
23:52 WORSTPOLACKEU: maybe
23:52 WORSTPOLACKEU: hm
23:52 Okoratu: its so dumb to test the whole map to just get to one pattern
23:52 Okoratu: like i just did that and then i pay extra attention to the thing
23:53 WORSTPOLACKEU: well
23:53 WORSTPOLACKEU: u sometimes have to
23:53 WORSTPOLACKEU: sacrifice
23:54 Okoratu: now
23:54 Okoratu: im missing 00:54:992 (5) -
23:54 WORSTPOLACKEU: hm
23:54 WORSTPOLACKEU: how about
23:54 WORSTPOLACKEU: this
23:54 Okoratu: fuck
23:54 Okoratu: what
23:54 WORSTPOLACKEU: okay
23:55 WORSTPOLACKEU: this has to work
23:55 WORSTPOLACKEU: wait
23:55 WORSTPOLACKEU: http://puu.sh/odBmR/4a7804c689.txt
23:55 WORSTPOLACKEU: ?
23:55 WORSTPOLACKEU: what do you think
23:55 Okoratu: i found something that works for me
23:56 WORSTPOLACKEU: oh well then
23:56 Okoratu: lets see yours
23:56 WORSTPOLACKEU: i go quick brb 2 min okay?
23:56 Okoratu: i did something similar
23:58 Okoratu: wait a moment i'll update that
00:02 Okoratu: does this work :d
00:02 WORSTPOLACKEU: back
00:02 WORSTPOLACKEU: letäs see
00:02 WORSTPOLACKEU: yes that works aswell!
00:03 WORSTPOLACKEU: nobody cant say that plays bad
00:03 WORSTPOLACKEU: it plays good
00:03 WORSTPOLACKEU: :)
00:03 WORSTPOLACKEU: 00:58:849 (3) - I would put this on sliderend
00:03 WORSTPOLACKEU: nice transition haha
00:03 WORSTPOLACKEU: I just like that pattern when note to slider
00:04 WORSTPOLACKEU: http://puu.sh/odBVP/1f3ac51b60.jpg
00:04 WORSTPOLACKEU: ha
00:04 Okoratu: which sliderend
00:04 WORSTPOLACKEU: 01:00:849 (2,3,4) - love this
00:04 WORSTPOLACKEU: 01:04:563 (8) - put this ionside 01:04:849 (1) - aswell
00:06 Okoratu: puush
00:06 Okoratu: wait a moment
00:06 Okoratu: slow down
00:06 Okoratu: dont die on my
00:06 Okoratu: me
00:06 Okoratu: http://puu.sh/odC4p/5e51935364.jpg
00:06 WORSTPOLACKEU: lol
00:06 Okoratu: was the first thin i did
00:07 Okoratu: when i heard
00:07 Okoratu: sliderend
00:07 WORSTPOLACKEU: o
00:07 WORSTPOLACKEU: in the sldier nr 4
00:07 WORSTPOLACKEU: on that slider end
00:07 Okoratu: 00:59:420 (5) -
00:07 Okoratu: i like that as well tbh
00:07 Okoratu: hm
00:07 Okoratu: both are cool
00:07 Okoratu: ill take yours
00:08 Okoratu: i thought you'd say 01:00:849 (2,4) - blanket
00:08 Okoratu: or somet higna
00:08 Okoratu: sdfhaklsdf
00:08 Okoratu: ekjalsd
00:08 WORSTPOLACKEU: well
00:08 WORSTPOLACKEU: u can blanket that too
00:08 WORSTPOLACKEU: XD
00:08 WORSTPOLACKEU: but I like that pattern
00:08 Okoratu: did that differently
00:08 Okoratu: the last thing you said
00:09 WORSTPOLACKEU: okay
00:12 WORSTPOLACKEU: 02:08:563 (6,7,1) -
00:12 WORSTPOLACKEU: awkward
00:13 Okoratu: did you die
00:13 Okoratu: o
00:13 Okoratu: you didnt die!!
00:13 WORSTPOLACKEU: nono
00:13 WORSTPOLACKEU: lol
00:16 WORSTPOLACKEU: 02:14:277 (3,4) -
00:16 WORSTPOLACKEU: blanket with slider
00:16 WORSTPOLACKEU: instead
00:16 WORSTPOLACKEU: plays nicely
00:17 WORSTPOLACKEU: 02:42:563 (7,8,9,10) - very uncomfortable
00:18 Okoratu: hm
00:18 Okoratu: wait a moment
00:18 Okoratu: im still
00:19 Okoratu: ill update again
00:20 Okoratu: 02:07:992 (5) - update and look at dis
00:20 WORSTPOLACKEU: okay
00:20 WORSTPOLACKEU: update
00:21 Okoratu: is that better ?
00:21 WORSTPOLACKEU: latest pending
00:21 WORSTPOLACKEU: version
00:21 WORSTPOLACKEU: u didnt upload
00:22 Okoratu: IT DOESNT WANT TO UPDATE
00:22 WORSTPOLACKEU: XDD
00:24 Okoratu: wtf
00:24 Okoratu: i'll restart
00:24 WORSTPOLACKEU: puush
00:24 WORSTPOLACKEU: txt
00:24 WORSTPOLACKEU: instead
00:24 WORSTPOLACKEU: restart doesnt help
00:24 WORSTPOLACKEU: atleast not me
00:24 WORSTPOLACKEU: when I have that
00:24 Okoratu: its dumb if i can't update the map
00:24 Okoratu: well i can
00:24 Okoratu: but it doesnt
00:24 Okoratu: >update<
00:24 WORSTPOLACKEU: I know
00:24 WORSTPOLACKEU: its servers
00:26 Okoratu: hm
00:26 Okoratu: it hates me
00:26 WORSTPOLACKEU: I have asme thing often
00:26 WORSTPOLACKEU: haha
00:26 Okoratu: https://0paste.com/8417
00:28 WORSTPOLACKEU: where
00:29 WORSTPOLACKEU: was I supposed to look
00:29 Okoratu: 02:07:992 (5) -
00:29 WORSTPOLACKEU: o yes
00:29 WORSTPOLACKEU: that pattern is much better now
00:29 WORSTPOLACKEU: 02:16:563 (3,4) -
00:30 WORSTPOLACKEU: put at the end of slider?
00:30 WORSTPOLACKEU: nice accent like before
00:30 WORSTPOLACKEU: I just like those .. xD
00:30 WORSTPOLACKEU: na
00:30 WORSTPOLACKEU: 02:16:706 (4) -
00:30 WORSTPOLACKEU: ctrlg
00:30 Okoratu: lol that's so weird
00:30 WORSTPOLACKEU: no it's amazing
00:30 WORSTPOLACKEU: haha
00:30 WORSTPOLACKEU: I meant to ctrl g that slider
00:30 Okoratu: like
00:30 Okoratu: http://puu.sh/odDKL/3784838379.jpg
00:30 Okoratu: looks so odd
00:30 Okoratu: but it somehow works for me
00:30 WORSTPOLACKEU: nono
00:30 WORSTPOLACKEU: like switch clicking places
00:30 WORSTPOLACKEU: with 3 and 4
00:31 WORSTPOLACKEU: haha
00:31 Okoratu: what
00:31 WORSTPOLACKEU: this
00:31 WORSTPOLACKEU: http://puu.sh/odDPX/05369e793b.jpg
00:32 WORSTPOLACKEU: 02:17:420 (6) - u can ctrl g this too so u get this upward motion after on every slider until next part
00:32 WORSTPOLACKEU: works pretty nicely
00:32 Okoratu: that destroys the connection to the next notes :<
00:32 WORSTPOLACKEU: nooo
00:33 WORSTPOLACKEU: well
00:33 WORSTPOLACKEU: atleast the
00:33 WORSTPOLACKEU: 02:16:563 (3,4) -
00:33 WORSTPOLACKEU: works very nice
00:33 WORSTPOLACKEU: with the double sound if you do it like I said imo
00:33 WORSTPOLACKEU: 02:42:563 (7,8,9,10) - this is
00:33 WORSTPOLACKEU: weird af and uncomfortable in that corner
00:34 Okoratu: i like the current thing more than messing with eV e r y sli d er
00:34 Okoratu: ever
00:34 WORSTPOLACKEU: ahah okay
00:35 Okoratu: ok
00:35 Okoratu: moving on to 02:42:563 (7,8,9,10) -
00:35 Okoratu: hm
00:35 Okoratu: O
00:35 WORSTPOLACKEU: xD
00:35 Okoratu: yes tablet players and corners
00:35 WORSTPOLACKEU: it's like
00:35 WORSTPOLACKEU: rly fucking hard to aim in corner
00:36 Okoratu: can i just take
00:36 Okoratu: this pattern
00:36 Okoratu: and move it down and to the right a bit
00:37 WORSTPOLACKEU: uh
00:37 WORSTPOLACKEU: I don't know
00:37 Okoratu: according to thorough testing (testplaying the part twice) this works for me
00:37 Okoratu: but i don't have reference tablet
00:37 WORSTPOLACKEU: LOL
00:38 WORSTPOLACKEU: this
00:38 WORSTPOLACKEU: sentence
00:38 WORSTPOLACKEU: http://puu.sh/odEha/369f16d84b.jpg
00:38 Okoratu: xD
00:39 WORSTPOLACKEU: lets move oon
00:39 WORSTPOLACKEU: 02:47:563 (9,1) -
00:39 Okoratu: yeah the whole thing is not AS far in the corner now
00:40 Okoratu: y does everyone dislike this
00:40 WORSTPOLACKEU: cause it plays
00:40 WORSTPOLACKEU: bad
00:40 Okoratu: aaa
00:40 Okoratu: i think it plays nicely
00:40 WORSTPOLACKEU: uh
00:40 WORSTPOLACKEU: u just had
00:41 WORSTPOLACKEU: circular movement in one direction
00:41 WORSTPOLACKEU: and you break it all
00:41 WORSTPOLACKEU: with that pattern
00:41 Okoratu: yah
00:41 WORSTPOLACKEU: the 2 last notes
00:41 WORSTPOLACKEU: are just
00:41 WORSTPOLACKEU: wrong
00:41 WORSTPOLACKEU: 02:47:563 (9) - put this
00:41 Okoratu: oo
00:41 WORSTPOLACKEU: between
00:41 WORSTPOLACKEU: 02:47:134 (6,7) -
00:41 WORSTPOLACKEU: form triangle of 9 and 02:47:134 (6,7) -
00:41 WORSTPOLACKEU: like this
00:42 Okoratu: OH
00:42 Okoratu: wait
00:42 WORSTPOLACKEU: http://puu.sh/odEwg/c758d1f576.jpg
00:42 Okoratu: fuck
00:42 Okoratu: i put 1 in the middle of 6 and 7
00:42 Okoratu: which isnt what you wanted at all
00:42 WORSTPOLACKEU: lol
00:42 WORSTPOLACKEU: do that
00:42 WORSTPOLACKEU: and then put 02:47:706 (1) -
00:43 WORSTPOLACKEU: x>490 y>248
00:43 WORSTPOLACKEU: or
00:43 WORSTPOLACKEU: x:357 y:49
00:43 WORSTPOLACKEU: both work
00:44 Okoratu: how about
00:44 Okoratu: http://puu.sh/odEHh/600d6dec5b.jpg
00:45 WORSTPOLACKEU: ah
00:45 WORSTPOLACKEU: I see what you want
00:45 WORSTPOLACKEU: you want 4 notes in equal spacing kinda so they form sometinh
00:45 WORSTPOLACKEU: and last one far away
00:45 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeah that square works also
00:45 Okoratu: the same kind as 01:31:706 (6,7,8,9,1) -
00:45 WORSTPOLACKEU: yes
00:45 WORSTPOLACKEU: I understand
00:45 Okoratu: but horizontally
00:45 Okoratu: hm
00:46 WORSTPOLACKEU: I would do
00:46 Okoratu: and because just putting these rectangles or squares everywhere
00:46 Okoratu: was boring i did that previous pattern
00:46 WORSTPOLACKEU: if you want to do something like that
00:46 WORSTPOLACKEU: I would space out the 2nd duo
00:46 WORSTPOLACKEU: like
00:46 WORSTPOLACKEU: 02:47:134 (6,7) -
00:46 WORSTPOLACKEU: normal
00:46 WORSTPOLACKEU: then put 02:47:420 (8,9) - higher up like u did
00:46 WORSTPOLACKEU: just like space out
00:47 WORSTPOLACKEU: 1.3 ? maybe
00:47 WORSTPOLACKEU: and then put 1 down between the first duo to form a triangle
00:47 WORSTPOLACKEU: I know it's boring but your map is already irregular and special
00:47 WORSTPOLACKEU: I did like this
00:47 WORSTPOLACKEU: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4907662
00:48 WORSTPOLACKEU: something like that
00:49 Okoratu: if i got what you want correctly from just the text
00:49 Okoratu: http://puu.sh/odEYD/fd9a083103.jpg
00:50 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeah that works too
00:50 WORSTPOLACKEU: spacing is up to you
00:50 WORSTPOLACKEU: how far awaya you want them
00:50 Okoratu: hm
00:50 WORSTPOLACKEU: and how more spaced you want the 8-9
00:50 Okoratu: lets test around abit
00:50 WORSTPOLACKEU: but the pattern works very well
00:50 WORSTPOLACKEU: I would space bit more
00:50 WORSTPOLACKEU: and put 1 more down
00:51 WORSTPOLACKEU: since it's ending and you make it emphasizing before break
00:51 Okoratu: yah
00:53 WORSTPOLACKEU: 03:06:849 (2,3,4) -
00:53 WORSTPOLACKEU: do it like this
00:53 WORSTPOLACKEU: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4907702
00:53 WORSTPOLACKEU: it's like
00:53 WORSTPOLACKEU: laid out
00:53 WORSTPOLACKEU: to be mapped like that
00:53 Okoratu: does this affect 03:12:563 (7,8,1) -
00:54 WORSTPOLACKEU: yes I would do the same there
00:54 WORSTPOLACKEU: it's like perfect
00:54 WORSTPOLACKEU: with the sounds
00:55 Okoratu: k did the same to that
00:55 WORSTPOLACKEU: I would rearrange
00:55 WORSTPOLACKEU: 03:12:563 (7,8,1,2,3) -
00:55 WORSTPOLACKEU: space according to the sound's pitch
00:55 Okoratu: to what
00:55 Okoratu: i like the pattern
00:55 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeah I like the pattern too
00:55 WORSTPOLACKEU: I just see a possibility
00:55 Okoratu: one edge per sound
00:55 WORSTPOLACKEU: to make it fit more
00:55 WORSTPOLACKEU: 03:12:849 (1,2) -
00:56 WORSTPOLACKEU: this goes down
00:56 WORSTPOLACKEU: but pitch goes HIGH up
00:56 Okoratu: this goes back down as well 03:18:277 (4) -
00:58 Okoratu: dont ask me how or why 03:15:134 (1,2,3) - work btw
00:58 Okoratu: i have no idea
00:59 WORSTPOLACKEU: whatzou think
00:59 WORSTPOLACKEU: about this
00:59 WORSTPOLACKEU: http://puu.sh/odFDr/eb67fe4624.txt
00:59 WORSTPOLACKEU: 03:15:134 (1,2,3) -
00:59 WORSTPOLACKEU: that is VERY nice
01:00 WORSTPOLACKEU: 03:11:992 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) -
01:00 WORSTPOLACKEU: here what I did in my diff
01:00 WORSTPOLACKEU: don't you think this fits much better
01:00 Okoratu: i like the rough edges
01:01 Okoratu: of mine more
01:01 WORSTPOLACKEU: alright
01:01 WORSTPOLACKEU: shit I rarely get
01:01 WORSTPOLACKEU: this good idea
01:01 WORSTPOLACKEU: why couldn't this be for my map
01:01 WORSTPOLACKEU: lol
01:01 WORSTPOLACKEU: xD
01:01 Okoratu: you will get similar ideas
01:01 Okoratu: if you're insimilar situations
01:01 Okoratu: after this
01:01 Okoratu: i think
01:01 WORSTPOLACKEU: I hope
01:02 Okoratu: remembering certain ideas you had when modding some maps comes in handy
01:02 Okoratu: do you know who this diff is imitating
01:02 WORSTPOLACKEU: 03:33:277 (4,1) -
01:02 WORSTPOLACKEU: this angle on 1
01:02 WORSTPOLACKEU: isn't rly working
01:03 WORSTPOLACKEU: flows badly imo
01:03 WORSTPOLACKEU: uh
01:03 WORSTPOLACKEU: not really
01:03 WORSTPOLACKEU: I don't know mappers styles except like
01:03 Okoratu: hm
01:03 Okoratu: how would the angle work better ?
01:04 WORSTPOLACKEU: if you do like
01:05 WORSTPOLACKEU: that star pattern
01:05 WORSTPOLACKEU: just doesn\t fit there
01:05 WORSTPOLACKEU: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4907756
01:05 WORSTPOLACKEU: this plays well
01:06 WORSTPOLACKEU: as an example of what could work
01:07 Okoratu: a star pattern fits lol
01:07 WORSTPOLACKEU: do as you wish
01:07 WORSTPOLACKEU: I know that will be awkward for people to play
01:07 Okoratu: at least it fit for 02:37:992 - 01:22:563 -
01:07 Okoratu: so i need to find a way to make this work with a star pattern and not destroying everything else
01:07 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeah but the angle was
01:07 WORSTPOLACKEU: better
01:07 WORSTPOLACKEU: on star shape
01:07 WORSTPOLACKEU: and slider at the end
01:09 WORSTPOLACKEU: 04:00:563 (8,9) - space more cause last part of kiai aswell like u did before
01:09 WORSTPOLACKEU: 01:31:992 (8,9) -
01:09 WORSTPOLACKEU: ehre also
01:09 WORSTPOLACKEU: since we did it in the middle kiai
01:09 WORSTPOLACKEU: 04:21:134 (8,9,1) - space this also
01:09 WORSTPOLACKEU: that's about what I could help you with
Okoratu
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still not sure if i want to keep the end of kiai patterns as is but the rest about the other patterns is really helpful :d

i also rearranged a few other things not mentioned in there, thanks a lot

Kei wrote:

M4M~

I already posted my map on your queue, but I'll leave it here again (: my map

[Collab Easy]

I found this diff to be too intense for an Easy. Some notes like 02:34:277 (1) for example could be removed to make this diff easier but that's just my personal opinion.
nah im not going to do that as it destroys a perfectly functional difficulty.
instead i'll make an easy which deserves the label easy and call the collab thing normal as that seems to be what people tend to call this kind of complexity :D/
will get to yours soon
Vell
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Vell
hi will get to all the mods tomorrow or today or the day after tomorrow (dark souls 3 is coming out so thats gonna be a problem but ill try to get it done this week, seems to be alot of major things I will need to change in my diff)
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Underforest wrote:

Hi, M4M Map I need mod back
I'll mod only Easy and Extra (9 min drain) since drain of my map overall is 2:30

[General]
Add in tags "When They Cry", that's the english title of the anime/video game HOLY SHIT I FORGOT THIS

[Collab Easy]
00:11:977 (3) - Remove curve why? i remember liking the curve
00:41:992 (1) - 00:44:277 (1) - Why not something like this? jinx did that for the sliderarts

00:48:849 (1) - Rotate 180° degrees I agree that this should be somehow made different from 00:47:563 (2) - , the way it currently is can mislead people when trying to read the timing between 00:48:277 (3,1) -
00:56:849 (3,4,1) - This blanket gives me cancer yuii remap pls
02:36:849 (2) - Curve a little bit more did this
04:20:849 (3) - Soft-whistle at the tail?nah lol

[Extra]
00:20:135 (5) - 00:22:420 (5) - New combo for overall pattern I don't combo for patterns, i just come up with something logical in the beginning and do that
00:44:277 (1) - This should be curved cause as it is now breaks pattern imo done.
00:50:563 (7) - 01:04:277 (7) - New combo nope
01:13:849 (5,6,1) - Overmapped This is actually undermapped and should be 1/16
01:15:706 (8) - NC and overall pattern nuh
01:32:277 (1) - Add clap at the tail did this
02:29:277 (5,6,1) - Overmapped nuh
04:00:849 (1) - Clap at the tail nuh
04:03:134 (1) - Add finish at the start did that lol
04:23:563 (1) - Whistle? did something else

GL! :)
Very polished map
thanks,

will do the other modreplies in the order i mod the maps back :D

Kei wrote:

M4M~

I already posted my map on your queue, but I'll leave it here again (: my map

  • [Collab Easy]

    I found this diff to be too intense for an Easy. Some notes like 02:34:277 (1) for example could be removed to make this diff easier but that's just my personal opinion. I'll answer this with keeping in mind that this is now a simple normal and not an easy
  1. 00:38:420 (2) - This 1/4 note is too much for an Easy diff. I think you could try some 1/2 rhythm instead, like this: its a normal now
    SPOILER
  2. 00:47:563 (2) - Same here. a
  3. 00:56:849 (3,4,1) - I don't want to be picky but this pattern can look much better. These blankets look sloppy tbh. Yuii didn't know what he was doing when he mapped that and will redo this
    SPOILER
  4. 00:59:134 (2,3,1) - Same here. To improve the map aesthetically I recommend you to focus on improving sliders and blankets like this one. It might sound picky or insignificant but if you apply this to your patterns I think the map will look much better overall. Here I suggest you to rearrange the pattern like this (: YUI DO SOMETHING
    SPOILER
  5. 01:02:563 (3,4) - This blanket could be improved as well :p also this slider feels off. I think you shouldn't ignore 01:03:134 since it's an important instrumental beat. I suggest you to out some other rhythm in order to make that white tick clickable and follow the music properly. I came up with this but you can do as you wish (moved 01:02:849 (4) to 01:03:134 and replaced 01:02:563 (3) with a short 1/2 slider). yui wants to redo things, right?!
    SPOILER
  6. 01:09:706 (2) - Same as above. I'd move (2) forward to 01:09:992. I don't think it's necessary to add something at 01:09:706 but if you feel like it's too empty you can replace it with a short 1/2 slider as suggested above. step ur game up yuii
  7. 01:59:706 (1) - This is very picky, lol but, could you move the red point 1 grid up? I think it looks better that way. JINX REMINDED ME TO DO THAT YES
  8. 02:02:992 (2) - Same about 1/4 sliders. i really think this is simple enough
  9. 02:15:706 (1) - Improve this blanket as well? rearranged entire thing
  10. 02:36:563 (1,2) - Blanket here? moved it somewhere where it cant blanket because that is bound to play better
    SPOILER
  11. 02:56:849 (1,2) - Pssst, improve blanket again? sorry if I'm being too bothersome with this. :p YUI XD
  12. 03:16:134 (2,3) - That's too hard for an easy diff. Consider changing this part for a 1/2 rhythm instead. I'll stop mentioning this. Change them if you agree. :oops: D;
  13. 03:59:420 (3) - Another possible blanket here. Sorry if I'm being too bothersome with this. :p done actually
  • [Nicoratu's Hard]

    I personally find the AR to be a little fast. I suggest you to reduce it to 7,5. with the amount of 1/4 in this i think AR8 is fair
  1. 01:03:134 (3) - Missing hitnormal sound? yeah cuz extreme doesn't have an object there, need to doublecheck this after copying over from extreme again, good catch will keep this as a reminder
  2. 04:21:706 - Add a spinner here to make the score vary between plays? It'd be nice imo. spinners were my least favourite element when making this set :|

    I found this diff to be quite solid. Nice.


That's all I got. I'm bad at modding extra diffs so I prefer not to. Hope that's fine for you.

Good luck. :D
thankss

Updated with:
PartSBs:
Easy
Collab Normal of Doom
Nicoratu

I need to answer pinataman on nicoratu and change storyboard and diffname xD
Vell
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Vell
Tomorrow TM

Kei wrote:

  • [Vell's Insane]
  1. 00:56:849 (4) - This sounds and feels off, plays awkward because it's like a slider with a random repeat that isn't following anything and is probably made like this for the sake of filling up this part easily. The rhythm here should be something more like this. Please try it out :3
    SPOILER
  2. 01:01:420 (7) - Same here, but with the little difference that this time the repeat doesn't sound as bad, but it's still a rhythm that's lacking and could be improved since the instrumental asks for 1/2 notes, not a 1/4 long slider.
    ____________
changed them and similar sliders to 1/2

pinataman wrote:

[Vell's Insane]

00:07:691 (6) – This slider is unsnapped at the end

00:26:277 (2,3,4) – There are times like this where you use stacks inconsistently in the rhythm which can be a little annoying to play. Since you use a lot more ¼ stacks, I'd space out (2,3).
00:29:134 (4,5,6) – Yeah, it'd be nice if you unstacked (4,5)
02:14:706 (5,6,7) – This technique is used a few times in the map so check them all and see if you can do something about it.
00:52:563 (5,1) – This stack is good though because there aren't any ¼ rhythm stacks to confuse it with, and the spacing before it heavily indicates this is a 1/1 gap, so it's a lot nicer to play

checked and fixed all stacks like these that stood out to me

00:41:992 (3) – This long reverse slider really really really slows down the map. The player goes from 5 or 6 clicks for every two beats down to 1 with this note. Are you sure there is something in the music that calls for you to disengage the player for this long? Try instead to fill this in with a light rhythm like: http://puu.sh/ocI3y/3987a0a8a2.jpg
00:44:277 (3) – Same thing with a lot of these long reverse sliders. There is a very big difference between the long slider sections and the not long slider sections, so try to make this difference not so big.
00:51:134 (3) – I'll stop mentioning them with this one, so double check all these and see if you really want to keep them (even 3/4 reverses like 00:19:706 (3) – )
00:48:277 (1) – This one is much better because you give the player a rest without grinding the map to a halt.

changed pretty much all the long reverse slider and remapped their respective parts accordingly

01:18:277 (7) – Consider making this a ¼ slider since the note at 01:18:420 – could be emphasized done

01:34:277 (1,2,1) – Just a personal preference, but I like starting notes after spinner more towards the center so the player has an easier time resetting back into circle-clicking mod moved it a bit closer to the center

02:00:992 (4,5,6) – This spacing is inconsistent in terms of rhythm
02:02:420 (2,3,4) – again, you have the same distance used for both ¼ rhythm and ½ rhythm when the audio isn't strong enough to suggest this, and so it's frustrating to play since it's easily misinterpreted what rhythm you're going for.

completely changed this and similar parts to fix the spacing and the long reverse slider issue

02:19:134 (5) – This slider is off the grid towards the bottom. Please raise this pattern up to give it room off the edge. done

02:34:849 (4) – I don't like the ½ gap that's about to come, so try a rhythm like this: http://puu.sh/ocNFz/4978fb7c79.jpg done

02:59:563 (2,3) – This is a little odd since it kind of looks like ctrl + G ing (3) is the more natural movement, but your spacing pattern gives enough of a hint of where to go that this might be okay, but I thought I'd still point it out because the flow is a little bit odd. It feels fine to me, might come back to this though

Battle wrote:

[Vell]
00:03:405 (1,2) - I don't really get why this overlaps, kinda just seems messy ;;

00:07:977 - ;; You mapped the vocals here, and having the next time they start appear on a slider end is sadddddd

00:07:690 (6) - Speaking of sad

00:26:277 (2,3,4) - The way you make the players pause for a brief like, moment, is kinda ambiguous t b h. Pretty easy to mistake it for like 3 consecutive 1/4. Maybe do something similar to 00:29:134 (4,5,6) - ? I like this pause tho, but I fixed the stack with proper spacing from a previous mod already

00:37:277 (8,1) - I feel like stacking here really takes away from the emphasis of the downbeat, mostly because you already have 1/4 things that are just like 00:36:706 (5,6,7) - where the spacing is pretty big, then you're followed up by a stacked thing with a strong beat on it :/// I stacked 00:37:277 (8) - with 00:36:992 (7) - and did this to all similar parts to give emphasize on the downbeat

00:59:134 - The vocal on this is pretty prominent, maybe make this clickable? I aimed to go more for the drums and I like the pattern so I will keep this

01:01:420 (7) - 3/4 repeat doesn't work in this case imo, since the note that you have that follows it is pretty soft in the music at this point, maybe follow something pretty prominent here, like the vocal? (It would be a 1/2 repeat followed by w/e) fixed through previous mod

01:14:849 (4,5) - Maybe try? done
z

01:25:992 (3) - Took a quick look at other kiais, nothing have a 1/4 repeat like this, so maybe map it out, cuz it's unstructured changed

02:19:134 (5,1) - Just to be safe, you might want to move 5 a little bit up, so that way later on you won't accidentally make it go off screen cuz it's pretty close to being offscreen changed

02:24:849 (8) - For something that's pretty strong in the music, it quickly get's "outshined" by sth like 02:25:992 (4,5) - spacing-wise lol increased its spacing

02:30:277 (4,5) - Maybe try that one rhythm I suggested, it's kinda awkward how vocals get heavily ignored ;;\ done

02:35:420 (1) - Maybe make this two 1/4 sliders instead? Pretty obvious note on blue tick done

04:00:849 - Maybe make clickable then spin? Id like to keep this unclickable because the instrumental goes completely silent at 04:00:563 -

04:21:134 - Why not make this clickable? It's pretty audible imo I dont hear any clickable beat though, just the sound getting louder
thanks for all the mods, I left out the beginning part for now ( I cant map parts with almost no to very little density at all for shit) might try something there again.

fixed diff with an absolute mess of hitsounds because oko said I dont need to rehitsound the changed parts
https://0paste.com/8443

I also noticed there might be some weird or out of place NCs, I will check them later myself. Feel free to point them out tho to whoever mods next.
Okoratu
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Ok updated.

Todo list
  1. I need to answer Endaris' post properly
  2. I need to answer pinataman for Marin's Hard
  3. Battle
  4. Answer Jinx Mod, for me, Elvis and whoever im supposed to answer for
  5. carry over hitsounding update to diffs and fix errors

Endaris wrote:

Hi there, finally getting to it! Hi there, finally getting to it!

Easy Collab

So first of all this diff is incredibly sexy in general. I looked at it on Saturday to get a first impression and I immediately felt the urge to throw a star because it's so cool.
I see slight spread-issues though as the rhythm is very difficult for an Easy-Diff actually even more difficult than in the Normal due to the use of active 1/4 snaps especially coupled with the rhythmic shift to the 1/2 snap at the end of the pattern while the Normal only uses 1/4 on inactive snaps. this has been taken care of by declaring this diff a normal and introducing a beginner / really easy easy diff to this set :D
Short practical elaboration:
With 00:19:135 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - you teach the player to expect the 1/4 correctly. This is pretty cool.
Then you repeat the patterns like 3 or 4 times and then boom:
00:35:134 (1,2) - Suddenly the slider is on a 1/2 snap.
And then 00:38:420 (2) - immediately 1/4 snap again.
It is questionable whether you can expect a new player to correctly read it based on distance or not. I'd say he can't but yeah, that one isn't related to quality of the diff itself.
WH Y IS E ACH OF Y OUR POINTS A SEPARATE LIST HOW MUCH FREETIME DO YOU HAVE
Upon taking a closer look I still found some things to adress though!
  1. 00:36:849 (3) - I don't think reducing volume to 40% is enough here. There is a very clear reset in all parts of the instrumentalisation here, in fact it's completely left out by the music. Making it a circle would also ease the transition between the two parts so I would strongly suggest leaving the red tick empty!
It's not really left out, in fact it's a bridge so that's why this is a bridge between two parts so now it's a bridge lol
  1. 00:37:420 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - This looks like an inconsistent pattern to me. I can easily hear what the first refers to but it's hard to tell what the second one is going on about and especially why it is different. If you say that you want to bring out vocals here I have to ask why you didn't do it at the first pattern. Decide on one thing to follow here please. I suppose you can use a different pattern for this spot elsewhere but I think it would be good if you kept it consistent in one place. It doesn't fit together like that *paraphrasing intensifies*
this is a pretty simple pattern that follows drums, the question here is why is 00:39:706 (1,2,3) - not following drums properly :// (and idk if this is changeworthy because Jinx can still claim to follow vocals, let's see if he does)
  1. 00:55:706 (1,2,3) - This looks like something you would map in a hard-dif. 00:56:563 (2) - to connect the held sounds is kind of overkill at this level and takes away a significant amount of drag-feeling from the first slider. I suggest extending that one to 3/2.
well this is something Yuii wanted to remap, but i disagree at this bpm this is something that can very well go into a normal lol.
  1. 00:59:134 (2,3,1,2,3,4) - I'm not satisfied with this pattern. The sliderend of the first slider after NC feels very awkward and the vocal accent at 01:01:992 - is only lightly represented too. On top of it you miss out on 00:59:563 - even though it's easily achieveable considering that you're going for vocals in this part. YUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

    Here are the options I could think of
    Pretending to follow the background chords while the vocal volume is low

    Pretending to be a drummer while the vocal volume is low

    I prefer the first one but you can probably make something up by yourself too.
  1. 01:04:277 (6) - I'd make this a single to contrast the note after. It feels weird if you drag this note into the note that you actually want to give a dragged feeling. The white tick also has some kind of finish sound while the red tick only gets some repercussions of that+a bit of drum so this would perfectly make sense to me.
I agree, you don't need that much reasoning though, either ppl will agree right away and skip your rest or they will disagree and skip the rest xD
  1. 01:06:277 (2) - Vocals suggest a repeatslider? It's kind of similar to the one above as repeatsliders don't give a strong drag-feeling either. And you did it at 01:08:563 (4) - too
yeah they do
  1. 01:10:563 - I want to click this note so much. pls let me D: yui wants to remap this part as well xD
    Maybe this?

    Or this? \:

    (The vocal kind blurs a lot into red despite being on blue lol)
    Or

    Probably unrankable due to recovery though and having the Kiai delayed would suck. yes that's unrankable, good observation :D
  1. 01:21:134 (1,2,3) - I think this is the pattern variation I already disliked before? I think varying the pattern for the end of this Kiai phrase is a good idea but it is not good if you break up the one rhythmic pattern that makes this song so characteristic

    I mean you even broke with common Easy-diff mapping rules before just to actively integrate this into the player's actions. So why not

    The pattern stays the same but it plays considerably different by leaving active breaks and involving the active blue snap tap again which is what you wanted to achieve as far as I've seen. (?)
    There are different methods to vary here too and one of the other options I'd like you to consider is mapping less dense in terms of holding keys down
    If you shift more attention to the drums(which doesn't matter for vocals because they align here) you could split the sliders like 01:15:706 (3) - into circles(and merge the latter one to a slider) as the drumpattern doesn't really suggest a slider ok after reading this 5 times... what? Like i don't get your point at all. 01:15:706 (3) - is simplified for the vocal which is held down there, i made 01:28:277 (2) - more consistent by following the idea i had in the first half of it tho
  1. 01:27:992 (1,2,3,4) - same ya that slider changed into a repeat and then it's feerums rhythm rearranged to look a bit nicer xD
  1. 01:30:277 (1,2,3) - Map this closer to the vocals to prepare the long slider?
It looks like all of you mapped one part and its repititions+Kiai with a set pattern so I'll just leave it like that as I would just repeat myself.

Oh wait, BRIDGE

  1. 02:58:563 (3) - Split this into separate circles? Or maybe 1/2 slider + single? The sliderend is very strong with drumbeat and very audible chordchange and it's the only downbeat you skipped in this introsection for no apparent reason.
yuiiiii
  1. 03:08:277 (1,2) - This is so unintuitive. Remember this is an Easy-Diff? Unlike previously you didn't introduce this pattern via repeatsliders first nor is it what I would see as the obvious and intuitive pattern here. i changed this
    Opposed to 03:07:134 (3) - where you skip a drumbeat for piano you favor drums over piano here which doesn't make any sense. On top of it the drums are way too dense in this part so you can't properly follow it which is exactly why this turns out to be unintuitive, there's no clear lead which notes to take i somehow can't make much sense of this
  1. 03:15:134 (1,2) - Same but a lot less bad since there isn't a repeatslider before it that ruins the logic. Still, blue snap out of nothing is a NO on Easy-Diffs unless the context absolutely calls for it and in my opinion it clearly does not.
good thing this is a normal now XD
aaaa
  1. 04:08:706 (2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - Is there any reasons to leave out the repeatsliders for blue ticks here? I found that very reassuring on the first part and would love to see it here too.
JINX probably likes clicking the obvious rhythm so he forced that onto normal players, i think for an easy this would be harsh but for a normal it seems rather moderate

aaaa, 2,5h on two diffs sub 2*, why am i so slow?
I might look into other diffs at a later point too~ Thank you for your time, I'll see later on if i have more stuff to discuss because Yuii is gonna remap and i'll probably mod the weird stuff out of feerum's parts or something lool

If you want to discuss anything further please message me.

pinataman wrote:

Hi. Here for M4M from your queue. Hope this helps!

[Nicoratu's Hard]

00:04:262 (3) – This is overlapping the HUD on lower screen sizes. Move all of 00:01:120 (1,2,1,2,3,4) – down for an easy fix good idea

00:22:134 – This sounds like a stronger note in the song than 00:21:849 (2) - , so try a rhythm like this: http://puu.sh/ocDe2/17492adcbd.jpg tbh the drums are stronger, and moreover
00:30:563 (1,2,3,4,5) – You can switch it up between these kinds of rhythms, and here might be a good place to do that too. hmm if more people (like one more) is concerned about this rhythm i'll see what i'll do to this section as a whole but as it is now i think both ways work fine

01:00:277 (1,2,3) – By unstacking (3) and using normal spacing, you give a little more emphasis to the strong drum on it, which I think would be nice. i agree this feels nice

01:13:420 (6) – This is kind of confusing to read with this spacing/stacking/flow (I thought (5) was a reverse slider since that would be the natural way to set up this (6) slider). Try going for a smoother flow like: http://puu.sh/ocDAf/0253456599.jpg Hmmm not really sure this reads perfectly fine for me with the default skin and i didn't even map that o:

01:32:277 (1,1) – This overlap is kind of awkward. Maybe have 01:34:563 (1) – be the blanketed note instead like: http://puu.sh/ocDK4/2d5d72f07c.jpg did this differently but yeah the overlap is gone :D

03:06:849 (2,3) – Consider making this a ¼ slider instead (still a little flustered from the hard section at 03:04:277 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - ) done :D


Good luck!
thanks again :D

J1NX1337 wrote:

Kono mozzu tomare, watashi no mozzu ni!
Normal Mod
[General]

1) Some of the hitsounds seem a bit inconsistent on some diffs, might wanna run a double check maybe. Pointed out a few of them on some of the diffs. that's useless because i will copy over hitsounds again to everyone and adjust everything i can spot after everyone has answered AND YUIII REMAPPED

2) Add "elvis" into the tags? The king needs some recognition after all these years. evilelvis is right there mmm

[Collab Easy]

Easy collabs ftw, especially when you forget which parts are whose. xd
Obviously won't be touching my own parts here. Mainly stuff about blankets, though many of them were quite major. I'd consider rechecking the hitsounds since I found some odd stuff, especially if you didn't do it manually for the first time.

1) 00:56:849 (3,4,1) - You could work on the blankets(?) here a bit more imo. They're quite off and you should at least center the circle between the curves. Atm it looks quite messy. I'd consider doing a bit of remaking here.
fuck you yuii
2) 00:59:134 (2,3) - I'd fix this blanket. It's off a bit, looks kinda weird. Also, I'd curve 01:00:277 (1) - less since it kinda looks like a bad blanket as the way it's now.
yuii will remap
3) 01:02:563 (3,4) - The relation between these is also kinda weird. It looks like an incomplete blanket. Consider fixing the blanket or just doing something else with the slider.
Yuii pls most people seem to have issues with EVERYTHING YOU DID BACK THEN
4) 01:06:277 (2) - I don't really like how you ignore the vocal and beat on 01:06:563 - I think a reverse slider might emphasize the music better here. Its current rhythm threw me off a bit.
oh my fucking god
5) 01:25:706 (1,2) - Blanket's a bit off. xd fixed. i rearranged everything so that it can't blanket

6) 02:15:706 (1) - Curve this a bit more for a better blanket.
cant do this as the entire pattern of 02:15:706 (1,3,2) - is copy pasta sliderino so no form changes
7) 02:27:134 (1) - I think this slider could look a bit smoother towards the end. Consider moving the second red anchor on the slider tick so that it turns right on the beat.
listen to the song closely, it's bents follow the music and therefore their positions are awkward, i did move them slightly to follow properly though :D
8) 02:29:992 (2,3) - The transition between these looks a bit odd to me. Maybe move (3) more to the top left and/or curve the reverse slider a bit less?
fixed differently
9) 03:02:849 (4) - I think you should move this more to the left because of the way that 03:01:420 (3) - curves to it.
YUII
10) 03:16:134 (2) - Why is there a clap here? Shouldn't there be a hitsound on the end of 03:15:134 (1) - instead? The start of 03:16:849 (3) - seems to be missing some as well. I don't know if this is the intentional way you chose to hitsound the set but I thought they were kinda weird. To be honest it might be a good idea to do a full hitsound check (yay) on the whole map.
wut no
11) 03:45:420 (2,3) - Would recommend fixing this blanket.
fixed, just to trigger yuiii with his style
12) 03:53:420 (3) - Would also curve this a bit more for a better blanket.
fixed

[Nicoratu's Hard]

A pretty nice Collab, fun to play. There were maybe a section or two that were a bit confusing. The double reverses and different kind of rhythm were a bit odd at first but then I sort of got the hang of it so it's alright. The kiai was especially good. This is a rhythm game, dropping od to keep "an od spread" doesn't make sense, because od-wise each diff should stand on its own and i think 6.5 works well

1) Maybe drop the OD to 6? It's a relatively easy Hard and the OD gap it leaves with Vell's Insane is quite small, even though his Insane is quite a bit more difficult.

2) 00:01:977 (2) - Wave could look a bit better if you position the second curve point more to the lower right. Not a big deal of course.
i like this wave.
3) 00:53:706 - There's a sound here in the song that you could emphasize by ending the slider here instead. Also there's nothing on 00:54:134 (3) - that would allow this circle. I don't hear anything. It also felt quite out of place when playing.
I want to emphasise the held vocal, so i think this fits nicely, also there is a sound in 00:54:134 - which warrants a circle
4) 00:55:777 (1) - This... should probably be on the beat on 00:55:706 - instead of the 1/8 lol
OH MY GOD LOL
5) 00:56:277 (2) - I also thought it was kinda weird that you don't emphasize the kick heard on 00:56:706 - with anything clickable. Same for 00:56:992 - in this case. 00:59:134 (3) - It was fine here because I felt the quarter beats were a bit more prominent here and the transition to the slider felt more impactful since no beats were ignored. Maybe try some other patterns? Same for other parts like this later on.
keeping 1/4 repeats the same length throughout the whole diff, also most of this section is mapped to vocals so idk what your argument is lolll
6) 01:00:277 (1,2,3) - Having this much stacked with a half beat separation was quite unexpected for my first play and it felt kinda out of place. It doesn't confuse me anymore but I think I'd something else with them rather than just stacking them all on top of each other.
pinatachanged :D
7) 03:04:277 (4,5,6,1,2,3) - I thought this was too confusing/difficult for a Hard, actually broke here. I think it's because of the double reverse combined with lots of sudden consecutive circles and a triplet reverse. Should probably ease it out a little bit with like a slider or something. It's basically 210BPM tapping and makes for quite a difficulty spike.
I will need more opinions on that, for now i'll keep this pattern that way
8) 04:20:992 (9) - I'd end this slider on 04:21:277 - to emphasize that sound in the song and then just add a circle on 04:21:420 - because I think it should also be clickable. Also for some reason, the stacked (8) and (9) confused me a couple of times. Perhaps because of this exact same reason.
NO
9) 04:23:563 (1) - The placement of this circle feels a bit random. Maybe put it near the end of 04:20:992 (9) - (or the circle if you decide to change it) to sort of emphasize the "pause".
ya

[Extra]

Nice Extra, everything flows and plays well! Jump patterns are fun and emphasize the song well. Mainly pointing out trivial stuff like small spacing differences, stacks and your favorite: blankets.

1) 00:39:134 (6,7,8,9) - Perhaps proper triangle out of these like you did at 00:48:277 (6,7,8,9) - ?
did this
2) 01:16:563 (2,6) - Should lower the slider end just a bit so that the blanket is perfect! :>
fuck you, done
3) 01:20:277 (6,7,8,9) - Spacing between the circles in this square is a lil' bit off.
done - __-
4) 01:31:992 (8) - Maybe position this just a bit more to the right so it's sort of blanketed by the slider curve?
done
5) 01:49:277 (5) - Maybe move the slider end a bit to the left so that 01:49:277 (5,6) - are parallel?
no parallelism wasnt intended
6) 02:14:277 (3,6) - Perhaps stack these?
too long to matter in any way
7) 02:27:134 (1) - Curve this a bit more maybe for a better blanket and things?
done ...
8) 02:45:134 (9,1) - These aren't stacking properly because the slider doesn't have enough room to do so. I'd raise the pattern a bit so that they can be stacked perfectly.
nice catch, fixed :D
9) 03:19:420 (7) - Stack this with 03:18:277 (4) - ? If that wasn't the intention then it's at least not perfectly between the start circle of 03:17:706 (2) - and the end circle of 03:18:277 (4) -
changes nothing but whatever
10) 03:54:277 (2,3,4) - Same spacing between these? Suppose it would look a tad cleaner.did close enough.jpg because the entire diff isn't built around perfectly equal distances.

[Elvis' Extra]

Nice Extra! Fun patterns that are a bit more technical than what the other diffs use, which brings more variety, and that's great. Some NCs are a bit inconsistent sometimes so might wanna run a double check on those. I'll be pointing a bunch of them out but I'll leave a bunch for you to check yourself too. So mainly pointing out NCs and spacing differences.

1) Some of the patterns are quite difficult to keep track of because of AR9 such as 03:40:849 (4,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1) - . Also things like stacks are difficult to distinguish whether they're quarter-beat or half-beat separated. Consider raising the AR a bit. I had no problems with most of these on 9.2 for example. Though if you consider it very essential for your map's style then feel free to keep it I guess. :p
9.2
2) 00:32:420 (2) - Would lower the slider end just a little bit so that it reverses straight back towards 00:32:277 (1) -
moved the circle around instead
3) Your NCs in this intro segment are a bit odd, and I think somewhat inconsistent. You seem to use quite a bit of NCs all over the place, but then there's parts where you use them pretty much normally again like at 00:41:706 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -. Consider doing an NC double check.
i think the comboing makes sense as it is done to ensure playability of the patterns he useses
4) 00:54:563 (6) - There's a pretty significant song change here so I'd consider an NC.
did something but for the sake of the pattern
5) 01:11:134 (1,2,3,4) - The spacing between these seems quite uneven. I'd even them out to make them look nicer.
fixed mr hitler
6) 01:13:992 - Kiai here? I'd also apply kiai to the other chorus sections of the song since I think they do a pretty good job at helping to emphasize the most intense parts.
no kiai for this diff.
7) 01:18:563 (3) - Should probably NC this for consistency with 01:27:706 (1) -
lolk
8) 01:20:277 (1,1) - I find these kinda weird because the sounds on these two sliders aren't really emphasized well imo. These follow a similar pattern as 01:19:992 (1) - but there are no really noticeable quarter beats in the song there unlike on the latter 2 sliders. To emphasize these sounds, I'd make 01:20:277 (1,1) - differ from 01:19:992 (1) - noticeably. Maybe with jumps or at least some other kind of pattern. Or perhaps just replace them with circles or something, whatever works for you. Same for 01:29:420 (1,1) - and similar patterns later on if you repeat it. 02:35:706 (1,1) - These ones are a bit better since they differ from 02:35:420 (1) - in their pattern which helps to bring forth the difference of the sound in the song here.
this is called emphasis through patterning and i think it works pretty well
9) 01:22:563 (7) - Maybe NC here as well.
hm ok
10) 01:30:563 (1,2,3) - Consistent spacing between these?
current thing works fine imo
11) 01:49:277 (5) - Move the slider end just a bit more to the right for a perfect blanket. lol
... ok
12) 01:49:992 (7,8,9) - Same 10)?
same 10) ! XD
13) 02:11:134 (1,1) - NC inconsistency here with 00:55:706 (1,2) - Also the NCing in this part differs quite a lot from the NCing at the part at 00:55:706 - so might wanna look into it a bit, since I don't think I'll be pointing everything out myself.
made consistent
14) 02:14:563 (3) - Maybe move this a bit to the top right so that the end points of 02:13:992 (1,2,3) - form a proper triangle?
not necessary
15) 02:18:849 (1,2,3) - Could make these look a bit better, like so: http://puu.sh/nUOUZ/58052af9a3.jpg You just need to rotate (3) counter-clockwise a bit. Then you could reposition 02:19:706 (1,2,3,4) - a bit so that (4) is right in the center of 02:18:849 (1,2,3) -
fixed
16) 02:31:134 (7,8,9,10) - Spacing between these looks kinda messy. Might wanna even it out a bit.
works fine imo
17) 02:36:277 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2) - The way you NC these differs quite a bit from 01:20:849 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - so might wanna make these a bit more consistent.
the pattern differs and needs different comboing for playability :D
18) 02:40:277 (1) - Also the NCs here and a bit further on kinda differ from 01:24:849 (7) - etc. so perhaps make em a bit more consistent, though it's not as big of a problem here.
for the pattern
19) 02:44:134 (1,2,3) - Maybe even out the spacing between these? Not a big deal really.
works fine imo
20) 02:53:992 (8) - NC here you like did at 02:51:706 (1) - ?
ok
21) 03:02:420 (5,6,7) - That stack looks a bit weird, maybe do something about it. lol
messed around with it a bit
22) 03:03:134 (1,2,3,4) - Even out the spacing here maybe?
nah o.o
23) 03:29:849 (5) - I'd curve this a bit more so it'd look nicer imo. Also so it's a bit more similar to 03:28:849 (1) -
russian mapping
24) 03:35:134 (7) - Maybe NC here like you did at 03:25:992 (1) - ?
okay
25) 03:37:420 (8) - Same?
same
26) 03:46:563 (1,2,3,4) - Even spacing? (1) differs from the rest.
not worth
27) 04:14:563 (3) - Shouldn't this be an NC instead because of the change in the song here?
no..?
28) 04:19:277 (2,3,1) - This stack screws me over quite a bit. It's hard to predict that pause there since it'd be completely possible for the quarter-beat at 04:19:563 - to be mapped, so it's hard to tell whether they're half-beat or quarter-beat separated. Consider doing something about that. The rest play fine at least with a bit higher AR.
haha get gud xD
[Extreme]

Quality map, everything plays and flows great and the music is well emphasized, nice work! Have you considered a more unique diffname to depict Higurashi's theme a bit better? Extreme doesn't exactly cut it imo, reminds me too much of sports. xD Something more sinister would be quite fitting for the song's theme imo.

1) 00:11:405 (1) - I think the wave would look better if you lowered the second curve point more to the lower right.
i like this wave
2) 00:21:992 (3) - This could be a bit further away from 00:21:706 (2) - to better emphasize the drum. The other parts like this seem to have more spacing between the slider and circle than this.
sure since the slider is a dropoff this makes sense
3) 00:45:277 (3) - Maybe move this slider end a bit to the right so that it's parallel with 00:44:277 (1) - ?
wasnt going for parallel things in any way
4) 00:46:277 (8) - Not really pointing anything out here but I really like that hitsound, wish you used it a bit more often. lol
lol, nah i dont like spamming drum whistles
5) 00:52:563 (4) - Imo this would look better if you arranged the curve points a bit more like so (even though I know you like weird wave sliders, which is why I'm not touching all of them lol): http://puu.sh/nVNuR/133fea0d52.jpg
not imo D:
6) 01:17:706 (7,10) - Properly blanket these? You do that with 01:17:992 (8,2) - so it would look better if both of them were properly blanketed.
did minor changes
7) 01:24:134 (6) - I'd move the end point just a liiitle bit to the left so they're perfectly parallel.
i tried
8) 01:25:706 (2) - Move this a tad to the left so that the blanket is perfect? Or maybe curve the slider a bit to accomplish that.
u said the stuff on extreme is important
9) 01:52:849 (1) - Would lower the slider end a bit so that it sort of blankets the end of 01:53:134 (2) - better.
k
10) 01:56:849 (7,8,9) - The way you mapped this differs from 00:41:420 (7,8,9) - but I don't know if that's intentional. I guess it's alright to emphasize the vocals with circles as well and it might be alright variety, but I thought I'd make a note of it just in case. Your call.
the vocals are different and that's why these are different
11) 01:57:420 (1,2,3,4) - The spacing between these looks a bit odd. Maybe even out the spacing a bit.
did
12) 01:58:849 (5,6) - I'd probably stack these like you did at 00:43:420 (5,6) -
but they do ?
13) 02:09:706 (3) - Maybe curve this a bit more? The curve on it atm is so slight that it's barely noticeable. Not exactly sure where you were going with that.
feels fine
14) 02:11:134 (1) - I'd move the red anchor in this slider a bit closer to the next curve point, since otherwise it creates a slight lump on the slider curve. Surprisingly enough it's somewhat noticeable.
messed around a bit
15) 02:18:420 - The vocal here is quite prominent so I'd suggest emphasizing it somehow, like you did at 01:02:992 (2) - which feels very nice imo.
ehh not sure if i want this, i can see where you're coming from but not sure if i want this :/
16) 02:22:563 (1) - Would move the slider end just a bit to the right so that it blankets 02:21:706 (4) - better.
did differently
17) 02:41:420 (4) - Would move the slider end point just a bit to the right for a perfect blanket. :>
fuck u tbh
18) 02:46:420 (4,5) - The curves here could be a bit more parallel. Would look nicer.
not what i was going for
19) 03:08:992 (3) - This reverse slider looks really weird, it seems to be using the old slider curvature system so I'd remake the curve. Either that or one of those blazer curves. lol
random bezier hype
20) 04:04:563 (6) - Maybe raise the slider end a bit or move 04:04:134 (5) - a bit to the left for a better blanket?
i don't remember if i did this minor thing
21) 04:06:134 (4) - Would move the slider end a tad to the right and then re-stack it on 04:05:134 (10) - so that it forms a better line with 04:05:992 (3) - like so: http://puu.sh/nVQzp/f820a12f65.jpg
seems unnecessary thb
22) 04:17:134 (2,3) - The curve on the slider would imply that (3) should be lower imo. So I'd rotate the slider maybe like -5° and/or reposition it a bit. Maybe stack the slider end on 04:15:992 (6) - or whatever yeah
Thanks :D
Elvis did decide for same kiais as i did after being asked

applied that mod about haha your diffname doesn't quite cut it
Yuii-
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Yuii-
Decided to remap my parts 'cause I didn't even know what a blanket was at that time.

Thanks everyone for your support, much appreciate it!
Nozhomi
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Nozhomi

J1NX1337 wrote:

Kono mozzu tomare, watashi no mozzu ni!
Normal Mod
[Noz's Normal]

Nice Normal, there was some stuff I was about to point out before but another modder seems to have taken care of it. Plays fine now and that's great. There's some stuff about the hitsounds that you might wanna run a double check for.

1) 00:38:849 (3) - I think it would be more satisfying to play this if you made this a reverse slider like 00:37:706 (2) - to map to the vocal echo. So basically reverses on 00:39:277 - and ends at 00:39:706 -. Also NC around 00:39:992 (5) - ? The combo gets kinda long. - Applied only NC, having a snare clickable is better to me and next reverse fit vocal.

2) 00:41:992 (1) - Shouldn't this slider start have a finish and clap like at 00:44:277 (1) - etc.? - Blame oko.

3) 01:16:849 (3,4) - Blanket's off between these. You can still blanket both the start and end like so: http://puu.sh/nUCdN/a82eda53e2.jpg - Fix

4) 01:37:134 (2,3) - Stack's off a little bit. AiMod likes to complain about it. lol - Fix

5) 01:00:277 (4) - NC? Song changes here a bit and the combo's kinda long anyway. - Fix

6) 01:43:992 (2,3) - Should even out the spacing between these. It's a bit too high atm. - Fix

7) 01:51:992 (5) - I thought the offbeat slider here was kinda weird, and I think 01:52:277 - should be clickable because of the high vocal, rather than 01:52:563 (6) - which feels kinda odd. Howbout using three sliders here instead? Or something else. - Fix

8) 01:57:992 (3) - The hitsounds here differ quite a bit from 01:53:420 (3) -. Not sure if it's intentional but I found it kinda weird. I can hear a sort of kick in the song on those parts but I don't think these claps emphasize them very well. - okokokokoko

9) 02:15:706 (4) - Same as 5) - Fix

10) 02:29:420 (1,2) - I found these a bit inconvenient to play because they were stacked, because of the quarter beat slider under it and everything. You don't stack them on 03:42:563 (1,2) - either so I think it'd be better if you didn't stack them. - Fix

11) 02:35:277 (4,5) - Spacing error here too. - Fix

12) 04:07:992 (2,3) - ^Same - Fix

13) 04:21:134 - Maybe silence this slider end? I don't hear anything in the song to make it audible for. - oko²

Kei wrote:

M4M~

  • [Noz's Nomal]
  1. 00:39:992 (5) - This combo is too long for a normal diff imo. How about adding NC here in order to follow the vocals and to shorten it? - Fix
  2. 01:09:420 (1) - Place this circle where 01:07:134 (1) was? - Fix
  3. 02:15:706 (4) - Same again about long NC. Perhaps add NC here to shorten it? - Fix

Battle wrote:

eeeeeee

[Noz]
Umm, it kinda feels weird how CS goes 2.7 -> 3 -> 4, maybe reduce cs on this diff? - You mean increase it right ? CS3.2

Maybe raise hp by like a .2 or sth to make hp a bit evener overall? - 4.5 is fine.

00:26:563 (3) - It's like, you have the whole 3/4 repeat thing going for you, but then you break it here. Sure the thing unique to this part is that there's like vocals, but then it's like the vocals aren't even technically just one held vocal, yet you have the directional change to match vocal so i dunno. I feel like it would be better to have it as that 3/4 repeat - Yep wanted to flollow vocal, and it's different from other places because drums don't start on it so I used a 1/1 slider on this purpose.

00:43:992 (4,1) - 00:49:420 (1,2) - zz I took a quick look at sections around this relative position in the music, and it's like, you never reuse stacking elsewhere so structureeee (those parts with vocals and instruments playing) - Fix

01:27:134 (4,1,2,3,4) - I feel like having something stacked under four while all these notes are starting to appear on the screen is bound to cause some readability issues - Tbh should be fine since it's an Advanced diff now, and because of different combo color.

02:29:420 (1,2,3) - Why not have it seperate instead of stacked like you did at 01:13:992 (1,2,3) - ? - Fix

02:47:706 (1) - clickable then spinner? - Fix

rest seems fine
Thx all of you~ Finally done lol.

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Okoratu
Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator
4,912 posts
Joined May 2012
Topic Starter
Okoratu
updated
my own answer to battle
and hitsounding fixes are missing
Asphyxia
osu! Alumni
1,986 posts
Joined June 2012
Asphyxia
[Oniichankushi]
  1. 00:42:706 (2,3,4) - Wasn't a fan of how this played, the jump to 00:42:992 (4) - feels awkward. Could try something like this, and then move 00:43:420 (2) - further so it keeps the consistent spacing and makes a better blanket?
    Example
  2. 00:50:277 (6,7,8,9,10,1) - Since the pattern is so close to making a star, you could just move some objects by couple of pixels and make a really nice, improved pattern.
    Example
  3. 01:00:277 (1,2) - Rhythm feels kinda funny, because you try to follow the vocals but they get stronger at 01:00:563 - and that really screams for another slider to me, at least. Consider trying this rhythm? (you can also consider 01:00:849 (3) - turning this into a 1/1 slider (actually 1/2 in this case but w/e) for the vocals)
    Example
  4. 01:13:420 (8) - Sound changes quite a lot here, especially when you compare it to the sounds at 01:13:134 (7) - . I think an NC would be nice because these don't feel like they should belong to the same combo. (if you apply this, make sure to do it 02:28:849 (8) - here and 03:23:706 (8) - here too)
  5. 01:52:420 (7,8) - It'd be a nice touch if these would have a lower spacing because of the drastic volume change. Not a big deal, though.
  6. 02:03:706 (6,7,8,1) - Patterning could be adjusted the same way as I suggested at 00:50:277!
  7. 03:13:706 (4) - Would've loved to see this get rotated by 90 degrees so that it'd make the square pattern with 03:12:849 (1,2,3) - .
[Elvis]
  1. 00:20:849 (1,2,1,2) - Consider something like this? Would make it nicer because of the symmetrical touch and equal spacing. (could rotate the two's a tad more)
    Example
  2. 00:36:849 (2) - Maybe turn this into note + 1/2 slider instead? Because the vocals and beat is really strong still at 00:36:849 - , but they start to fade away at 00:36:992 - here.
  3. 04:02:849 (1,1) - The last one was okay due to its low spacing, but this feels like it's so easy to break on it because of the high spacing. Maybe a small spacing reduction here?
[Kihhou]
  1. 01:04:277 (1,2,3,4,1) - It'd be cool to have these even as small jumps, because the the beats definitely get stronger at that point. (Same would apply at 02:19:706 (1,2,3,4) - )
  2. 02:31:706 (1) - I'd place the slider at x:152 y:298 so that the curve from 02:31:277 (6,7,8) - would continue nicely, not a big deal tho.
  3. 02:47:420 (4) - I really like the idea except for the fact that you ignore the stanza, which is the most important beat. Furthermore, it even ends the chorus so you really should emphasize it by making the beat clickable.
[Vell]
  1. 00:46:277 (10) - Angle is quite weird and doesn't play well. Copy-paste 00:45:706 (8) - there instead? Like this!
    Example
  2. 02:13:992 (3,4) - Would make rhythmically more sense if these two were ctrl g'd.
[Marin]
  1. 00:40:277 - I know that you wanted to follow the vocals here, but missing the beat is really awkward to play. Consider adding a note there? (would apply to any similar pattern too)
[Noz]
  1. 01:11:706 (1) - I'd make the loop visible more, so that there can't be any confusion about the slider. Not a big deal though. Furthermore, I think the slider looks way better that way than the current one q:
    Example
  2. 04:21:420 - Beat here is really strong, so please consider adding a note here and then starting the spinner 1/4 later.
[Collab Normal]
  1. 00:51:134 (1) - The curves of this slider look a bit meh, you can consider using this kind of curves instead? Would look more natural, I'd say.
    Example
  2. 02:11:134 (1,3) - Are you really sure that you want to use different slider shapes here? The pattern would look a ton better if you would've just copy pasted either one, that'd give the pattern a ''symmetrical'' touch to it.
[Collab Easy]
  1. 03:49:992 (4) - Rhythm feels quite awkward, as the slider doesn't really follow the vocals and it doesn't emphasize the most important beat, rather, ignores it. Please consider this rhythm instead, it'd follow the music better!
    Example
  2. 04:07:706 (1) - If you wanted to, you could curve this slider more so it'd blanket 04:05:420 (3) - 's end really nicely!
  3. 04:21:420 - Would place a note here and then start the spinner late, considering how important that beat is.
Vell
359 posts
Joined October 2013
Vell

Asphyxia wrote:

[Vell]
  1. 00:46:277 (10) - Angle is quite weird and doesn't play well. Copy-paste 00:45:706 (8) - there instead? Like this!
    Example
  2. 02:13:992 (3,4) - Would make rhythmically more sense if these two were ctrl g'd.
Changed both as suggested and adjusted the patterns around these parts. Thanks!

https://0paste.com/8467
Nozhomi
Global Moderator
4,568 posts
Joined May 2013
Nozhomi
@Asphyxia, fixed both. I redo the slider was not the best option to do a loop.

with less loop diff
osu file format v14

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Version:Noz's Advanced
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Tags:07th Expansion Kihhou EvilElvis J1NX1337 Yuii- Nozhomi Feerum Maruyu [Nicole] Yuzu- Vell Marin Okoratu Jinx Enhu When They Cry
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304,264,204849,2,0,P|292:320|264:360,2,105,10|8|8,1:2|0:0|1:3,0:0:0:0:
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264,48,211992,2,0,P|280:42|297:40,1,35,8|8,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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468,116,212849,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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144,332,220277,5,0,1:0:0:0:
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275,335,220849,2,0,P|308:346|341:337,1,70,10|8,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
388,268,221420,2,0,L|493:268,2,105,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,220,222563,5,4,1:2:0:0:
376,160,222849,2,0,L|440:160,1,35,0|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
452,152,223134,2,0,P|484:104|484:48,2,105,10|8|8,1:2|0:0|1:3,0:0:0:0:
380,112,224277,2,0,P|349:95|315:90,1,70,10|8,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
236,120,224849,5,0,1:0:0:0:
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128,88,225420,2,0,B|116:60|116:60|40:28,2,105,10|8|8,1:2|0:0|1:3,0:0:0:0:
80,155,226563,2,0,P|63:186|63:220,1,70,10|8,1:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
96,300,227134,5,0,1:0:0:0:
148,236,227420,2,0,L|228:224,1,70,2|10,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
300,236,227992,2,0,P|308:259|328:280,1,35,0|10,0:0|1:2,0:0:0:0:
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396,136,229420,5,0,1:0:0:0:
331,84,229706,2,0,P|298:92|264:84,1,70,0|10,1:0|1:2,0:0:0:0:
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48,232,231706,5,4,1:2:0:0:
131,215,231992,2,0,P|133:233|130:251,1,35,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
120,290,232277,2,0,L|228:278,2,105,10|8|8,1:2|0:0|1:3,0:0:0:0:
136,372,233420,2,0,L|231:362,1,70,10|8,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
289,351,233992,5,0,1:0:0:0:
360,304,234277,2,0,L|360:248,1,35,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,228,234563,2,0,B|412:236|412:236|480:224,2,105,10|8|8,1:2|0:0|1:3,0:0:0:0:
300,172,235706,2,0,B|263:165|263:165|231:173,1,70,10|8,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
156,216,236277,5,0,1:0:0:0:
120,140,236563,1,2,1:2:0:0:
176,76,236849,1,10,1:2:0:0:
259,79,237134,2,0,P|276:85|293:87,1,35,0|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
376,68,237563,2,0,P|393:70|409:75,1,35,0|2,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
468,136,237992,2,0,L|456:232,1,70,8|0,1:2|1:0,0:0:0:0:
404,268,238563,5,0,1:0:0:0:
372,192,238849,1,0,1:0:0:0:
320,255,239134,2,0,P|287:268|252:266,1,70,10|8,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
196,204,239706,2,0,P|209:153|247:119,2,105,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
167,283,240849,6,0,B|124:352|41:330|41:330|80:264|60:200|60:200|40:132|100:76,1,420,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
260,24,243134,5,0,0:0:0:0:
332,68,243420,1,0,0:0:0:0:
260,108,243706,2,0,P|293:143|357:146,2,105,8|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
331,68,244849,2,0,P|366:67|397:83,1,70,8|2,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
430,161,245420,5,4,0:3:0:0:
400,240,245706,1,0,0:0:0:0:
364,316,245992,2,0,P|417:322|460:297,2,105,8|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
316,248,247134,2,0,P|284:240|240:256,1,70,8|2,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
184,304,247706,5,4,0:3:0:0:
260,336,247992,1,0,0:0:0:0:
249,252,248277,2,0,L|236:139,2,105,8|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
332,268,249420,2,0,L|322:175,1,70,8|2,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
316,116,249992,5,4,0:3:0:0:
237,148,250277,1,0,0:0:0:0:
159,116,250563,2,0,P|93:107|32:175,1,140,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
21,234,251420,1,4,0:0:0:0:
104,218,251706,2,0,L|175:201,1,70,8|0,0:0|1:1,0:0:0:0:
256,188,252277,5,4,0:0:0:0:
296,263,252563,1,0,0:0:0:0:
372,300,252849,2,0,B|392:340|392:340|472:356,2,105,8|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
368,216,253992,2,0,P|380:184|376:136,1,70,8|2,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
336,76,254563,5,4,0:3:0:0:
288,144,254849,1,0,0:0:0:0:
211,176,255134,2,0,P|161:187|111:173,2,105,8|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
220,92,256277,2,0,L|184:16,1,70,8|2,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
132,88,256849,5,4,0:3:0:0:
76,148,257134,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,212,257420,2,0,B|176:232|176:232|228:212,2,105,8|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
76,276,258563,2,0,L|139:306,1,70,8|2,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
216,340,259134,5,4,0:3:0:0:
292,304,259420,1,8,0:0:0:0:
336,232,259706,2,0,P|316:204|316:156,1,70,8|8,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
332,88,260277,5,2,0:3:0:0:
393,146,260563,1,10,0:0:0:0:
312,169,260849,2,0,L|232:188,1,70,8|0,0:0|1:3,0:0:0:0:
164,160,261420,1,4,0:3:0:0:
256,192,261563,12,8,263563,0:1:0:0:
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