This is confusing 
We don't even know if there is a joker
We don't even know if there is a joker
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If activity doesn't pick up, I'm going to start trying to replace players and move the deadline for the lynch forwards.
Sorry, it's bugging me: the role's actually called the Jester, not Joker.
Also, mod: If a jester is investigated, would the outcome be Guilty or Not Guilty (assuming investigations don't reveal entire roles)?
Also, mod: If a jester is investigated, would the outcome be Guilty or Not Guilty (assuming investigations don't reveal entire roles)?
*glare*NoHItter wrote:
I haven't seen a small game (13 people) have a jester yet. (though I may be wrong since I haven't exactly joined a lot of games)
Though the probability of having a jester are slim, there's still a chance.
Nakata's actions scream Jester to me, yet he's doing it wrong.
(Basically) Openly admitting that you're a jester won't get you lynched.
Instead people will use reverse psychology and assume that you're just pretending to be a jester.
you got me.
Topic Starter
Possible results of an investigation include "mafia," "neutral," and "town." A jester, along with any other third party, would come up as being "neutral."
WIFOM. A tricky jester could pretend to be a mafia pretending to be a jester. Although seeing as he's a new player, it would seem more likely that if he was the jester then he would bank on everyone else not knowing about the possibility of a jester role.NoHItter wrote:
Nakata's actions scream Jester to me, yet he's doing it wrong.
(Basically) Openly admitting that you're a jester won't get you lynched.
Instead people will use reverse psychology and assume that you're just pretending to be a jester.
I'm not exactly sure what this implies..Nakata wrote:
*glare*
you got me.
What exactly makes you think this?0_o wrote:
Although seeing as he's a new player.
Were you supposed to?0_o wrote:
I'm not exactly sure what this implies..Nakata wrote:
*glare*
you got me.
viewtopic.php?p=498609#p498609Nakata Yuji wrote:
What exactly makes you think this?0_o wrote:
Although seeing as he's a new player.
oh.
*is noob at this*
teehee
If you are saying things that nobody gets then you aren't really adding anything and are only throwing suspicion at yourself.Nakata wrote:
Were you supposed to?0_o wrote:
I'm not exactly sure what this implies..
Would I possibly want to do that?0_o wrote:
If you are saying things that nobody gets then you aren't really adding anything and are only throwing suspicion at yourself.
Also, you're quite trusting.
on principle I'd rather lynch the inactive people, but for the love of god can we get rid of this guy
I agree with the second part of Two's post, especially since lynching, whether or not it's scum, will help the town.
Vote: Nakata Yuji
Vote: Nakata Yuji
Easy buddy, it's just a game.Two wrote:
on principle I'd rather lynch the inactive people, but for the love of god can we get rid of this guy
lynching a townie helps the town? am i missing something here?rust45 wrote:
I agree with the second part of Two's post, especially since lynching, whether or not it's scum, will help the town.
Vote: Nakata Yuji
by all means, though.
Basically you're causing mass confusion, and getting rid of the source is a beneficial thing.Nakata Yuji wrote:
lynching a townie helps the town? am i missing something here?
by all means, though.
I thought he was making a blanket statement :30_o wrote:
Basically you're causing mass confusion, and getting rid of the source is a beneficial thing.Nakata Yuji wrote:
lynching a townie helps the town? am i missing something here?
by all means, though.
either way, it's fun doing it, so even if i get lynched, i've had my fun.
Alright I'm gonna be gone from the 13th to the 23rd; I think I will have minimal access to the internet so I'll try to stay on top of the game as much as I can, but I probably won't be as active as usual.
so where is matthewtck, oyashiro beatrice and pieguy1372?
and can you people who aren't voting for nakata yuji please try to convince us not to vote for them, to both stimulate the game and explain why you haven't voted for them yourselves thx
and can you people who aren't voting for nakata yuji please try to convince us not to vote for them, to both stimulate the game and explain why you haven't voted for them yourselves thx
Sorry, been out-of-state for a while....I stopped understanding WTH was going on, so I'll just change my vote to the most obvious person, still got a few things to do IRL and may not be that active.
Vote: Nakata Yuji
Vote: Nakata Yuji
And I am a removed.
Okay, that's actually 6, nvm.
yeah, i should have probably counted before i put up that spoiler, you probably caught that ._.Two wrote:
unvote
let's keep that a secret, mm?
on behalf of strager
I'm curious as why Two unvoted.
Reason please?
Also, what did Nakata post before he "removed" it.
Reason please?
Also, what did Nakata post before he "removed" it.
I haven't posted because I haven't made up my mind yet, especially now that I can assume Nakata Yuji had an important role of sorts. Unless he was a wolf pretending to have such a role, or unless Two and Nakata Yuji are both wolves. (I didn't vote Nakata Yuji previously because I had a hunch it would be a bad idea, but eh.)
That actually seems rather likely, both Two and Nakata Yuji being wolves. o_o If they were two wolves and putting on a show to fool all of us, it would definitely make sense if Nakata Yuji went and confused all of us and then Two played Nakata Yuji off as innocent just now. On the other hand, this situation would make a lot of sense if both of them were townsfolk or of either one of them was a wolf. Now I really can't make up my mind...
Anyway, might as well vote Two since I'm still not sure about lynching Nakata Yuji at this point.
That actually seems rather likely, both Two and Nakata Yuji being wolves. o_o If they were two wolves and putting on a show to fool all of us, it would definitely make sense if Nakata Yuji went and confused all of us and then Two played Nakata Yuji off as innocent just now. On the other hand, this situation would make a lot of sense if both of them were townsfolk or of either one of them was a wolf. Now I really can't make up my mind...
Anyway, might as well vote Two since I'm still not sure about lynching Nakata Yuji at this point.
But you are sure about Two?pieguy1372 wrote:
Anyway, might as well vote Two since I'm still not sure about lynching Nakata Yuji at this point.
Two was the only person that saw it. Both strager and I refreshed just that little too late. I'm not sure what possible reason Two might have for keeping this information hid, other than covering for Nakata.NoHItter wrote:
Also, what did Nakata post before he "removed" it.
@Mashley: If we lynch Nakata Yuji and he turns out to be innocent we'll likely end up losing a very important role given how Two was acting. (Note that Two would act that way regardless of whether he is a wolf or not because if he is he'd want to avoid suspicion.) As a result lynching Two seems like a safer bet.
The problem with your logic is that if they did indeed claim to be a valuable role, and I was a wolf, I could have not only avoided suspicion but I could have lynched that valuable role by simply doing nothing.
This has taken an interesting turn of events.
I see why people are voting for Two as it is, as he's been very aggressive.
Given what I posted, even I don't know why he unvoted.
Unvote, btw.
I see why people are voting for Two as it is, as he's been very aggressive.
Given what I posted, even I don't know why he unvoted.
Unvote, btw.
Topic Starter
At some point I will stop being lazy and put a constantly updated votecount onto the first page. But right now I'm lazy. Activity's better now. Remember that Day 1 will end a week from tomorrow. The long list of names will remain for ease of copying and pasting because I'm a lazy mod, but I will color people with votes on them.
The Mod is Lazy Votecount
matthewtck (1) - Wojjan
pieguy1372 (0)
strager (0)
0_o (0)
DiamondCrash (0)
Mashley (0)
NoHitter (0)
Oyashiro Beatrice (0)
meronmyon (0)
Nakata Yuji (5) - NoHitter, Mashley, mernomyon, rust45, Oyashiro Beatrice
Two (2) - strager, pieguy1372
Wojjan (0)
rust45 (0)
Not Voting (5) - matthewtck, 0_o, DiamondCrash, Two, Nakata Yuji
Nakata Yuji is at L-2!
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch...
The Mod is Lazy Votecount
matthewtck (1) - Wojjan
pieguy1372 (0)
strager (0)
0_o (0)
DiamondCrash (0)
Mashley (0)
NoHitter (0)
Oyashiro Beatrice (0)
meronmyon (0)
Nakata Yuji (5) - NoHitter, Mashley, mernomyon, rust45, Oyashiro Beatrice
Two (2) - strager, pieguy1372
Wojjan (0)
rust45 (0)
Not Voting (5) - matthewtck, 0_o, DiamondCrash, Two, Nakata Yuji
Nakata Yuji is at L-2!
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch...
troll?Wojjan wrote:
Maybe he publicly claimed wolf and gave up?
Anyone else notice that "Jester" Nakata is gone?
People realise Nataka is acting Jester - Nataka stops acting Jester
Cause and effect, NoHItter
Cause and effect, NoHItter
Are you people paying attention at all? This is the most lonely werewolf-esque game I've ever played
He's been acting the same way up until he thought he was lynched. It had nothing to do with what anyone else thought.
He's been acting the same way up until he thought he was lynched. It had nothing to do with what anyone else thought.
After looking back over this thread, I don't think you actually believed what you said. Spoilerboxed since it's a wall of text.
SPOILER
then,
Then, Mashley posted a screenshot of the pm that Nakata sent him. He had to remove it, but this is what was said in response:
and again...:
later he posted:
and finally:
so vote: Mashley^ being cute, relevant later if you read the restNakata Yuji wrote:
Vote: mashley
dat foolMashley wrote:
I'm not a fool
then,
Nakata Yuji wrote:
''Wojjan wrote:
Can't we just nolynch today? We have nothing to go on''
she wants the kill
unvote
vote:Wojjan
gogogoogog
so I voted for him, and was followed by nohitter and mashley; mashley's post was:Nakata Yuji wrote:
''Wojjan wrote:
Could you maybe, you know, read my other post?''
i just want the day to end, actually
also i would consider that a facade
In retrospect, there are several things about this post that rub me the wrong way. The first is the, by itself, innocent fact that they voted as part of a bandwagon. The next part most people will probably disagree with me on, but it's "Yeah, this is very suspicious". Stating things as fact actually is a very effective way to persuade people, as they take it in subconsciously. It's similar to how people say the person's name that they're talking to in order to gain control of a conversation. I think that it was deliberately stated that way, and this is backed up by the last bit, "Now, if we assume that Nataka is scum, then that would make Wojjan and 0_o innocent, wouldn't it?", where he tries to influence the game's perception of not only Nakata, but of Wojjan, 0_o, and himself. Making people believe that x cannot be y because x is opposite of z is extremely valuable for wolves/mafia/whatever, since it allows one of their members to go unsuspected and coast to the finish line.Mashley wrote:
Yeah, this is very suspicious. Nataka seems anxious to get the day over with and have someone out. Here's a PM I recieved from her:
Quote:
change your vote to wojjan or 0_o and I'll change mine to what you do
Now, if we assume that Nataka is scum, then that would make Wojjan and 0_o innocent, wouldn't it?
Unvote, Vote Nataka Yuji
Then, Mashley posted a screenshot of the pm that Nakata sent him. He had to remove it, but this is what was said in response:
^ ">_<" is acting cute/innocent againMashley wrote:
"Nakata Yuji wrote:
notice how you can't see what he sent."
What exactly are you suggesting? >_<
and again...:
Only this time he not only tries to effect your perception with ">_<", but by stating "didn't you just admit to being scum a few posts ago?"Mashley wrote:
Want to explain how telling people about a suspicious PM you sent me is suspicious? Or are you just accusing me for the hell of it? And didn't you just admit to being scum a few posts ago? >_<
later he posted:
again trying to be perceived as ignorant/innocentMashley wrote:
This is confusing
and finally:
This is the post that made me go back and look. It's so painfully ignorant that it's on the same level as Wojjan's troll post. It's to the point where there just has to be an ulterior motive behind it. Yeah the motive could be good, but go back and find evidence in his posts that supports that, cause I couldn't find it.Mashley wrote:
People realise Nataka is acting Jester - Nataka stops acting Jester
Cause and effect, NoHItter
You based an entire argument on my use of smileys? You do realise I use those all the time, right?
And the thing with 0_o and Wojjan, that was an if. If Nataka ia scum, which I reckon she probably is, then her actions would suggest Wojjan and 0_o as innocent. I'm not trying to sway anything, just considering the possibility.
And the thing with 0_o and Wojjan, that was an if. If Nataka ia scum, which I reckon she probably is, then her actions would suggest Wojjan and 0_o as innocent. I'm not trying to sway anything, just considering the possibility.
downplaying things is also an effective tactic, but where does your mind trickery endMashley wrote:
You based an entire argument on my use of smileys? You do realise I use those all the time, right?
>_<?Because being effective makes me scum, right?
Mash dear I think you know enough of mafia games and the like to see that there's this certain tactic called distancing I and 0_o could be doing. If someone acts scummy and we jump on it to accuse him and lo behold it's really a mafia, then people will get townie vibes from us, while it's not certain that I'm actually town. See last game where two blatantly fell for my trickeries.
Since my vote is more or less useless with the almost-majority stck in yay-nay over Nakata, I might as well Unvote and vote at a later date. I'll put up a vote for a no lynch until I decide to drop in again, just to save me a nasty phantom vote for D2.
Oh 2, I really really think you could do better than calling people out on their use of emoticons.
>_<
Since my vote is more or less useless with the almost-majority stck in yay-nay over Nakata, I might as well Unvote and vote at a later date. I'll put up a vote for a no lynch until I decide to drop in again, just to save me a nasty phantom vote for D2.
Oh 2, I really really think you could do better than calling people out on their use of emoticons.
>_<