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Mami Kawada - Wings of Courage -Sora o Koete-

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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on October 4, 2015 at 9:10:22 PM

Artist: Mami Kawada
Title: Wings of Courage -Sora o Koete-
Source: 蒼の彼方のフォーリズム
Tags: Ao no Kanata no Four Rhythm Shudaika opening Beyond the sky into the firmament FreeSongs YellowManul Gaia CXu Okoratu
BPM: 160
Filesize: 15015kb
Play Time: 02:17
Difficulties Available:
  1. Anti-Graviton Shoe (4.55 stars, 491 notes)
  2. Easy (1.43 stars, 145 notes)
  3. FreeSongs' Hard (3.54 stars, 353 notes)
  4. Gaia's Insane (4.05 stars, 408 notes)
  5. Insane (4.47 stars, 522 notes)
  6. Manul's Normal (1.84 stars, 183 notes)
  7. oko's Advanced (2.71 stars, 279 notes)
Download: Mami Kawada - Wings of Courage -Sora o Koete-
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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G o i n g F o r R a n k e d ! ! !


How it's made
  1. StoryBoard - BetaStar (Progress = 100%) [Taken 5 days! + 3 days of error fixing (lower SB load)]
  2. Easy - BetaStar (Mapping = 100%) [Taken 1 day] / (Hitsound = 100%) [Taken 1 day]
  3. Normal - YellowManul (Mapping = 100%) / (Hitsound = 100%)
  4. Normal - Okoratu (Mapping = 100%) / (Hitsound = 100%)
  5. Hard - FreeSongs (Mapping = 100%) / (Hitsound = 100%)
  6. Insane - Gaia (Mapping = 100%) / (Hitsound = 100%)
  7. Insane - BetaStar (Mapping = 100%) [Taken 2 days.] / (Hitsound = 100%) [Taken 1 day.]
  8. Insane - CXu (Mapping = 100%) / (Hitsound = 100%)

    Previous Mappers:
  9. Easy - DerXello (Mapping = 100%) / (Hitsound = 50%)
  10. Insane - Suzuno Kamduki (Mapping = 100%) / (Hitsound = 100%)

REDOWNLOAD AFTER 2015-10-03!!!


I BEG YOU TO PLAY WITH THE STORYBOARD FOR FIRST FEW ROUNDS!!!


FUTURE MAPPERS: "MAMI KAWADA", NOT "KAWADA MAMI" (UNLESS STATED)


Contributers... Thank You!
  1. YellowManul = Thank you for taking over [Normal] so I can get rid of my cancerous map that I created!
  2. FreeSongs = Thanks Freesongs over accepting my [Hard] GD request!
  3. Okoratu = Yayyyyy Advanced ;D Thanks~
  4. Gaia = Thanks for sudden [Insane] GD!
  5. CXu = Thanks for mod & GD~
  6. Bad Pandah & One Miss = Thanks for censoring that pantsu!
  7. Sylphia = Thanks for drawing that score page title!
  8. sh0ta = Thanks for compressing those images!
  9. All of modders!!!
  10. HabiHolic = Bubble~
  11. Karen = Qualify~
  12. Asphyxia = Disqualify~
  13. Asphyxia = Bubble~
  14. Karen = Qualify~


    (DerXello has dropped out this project)
  15. DerXello = Thanks for sliders and motivation to get me map [Easy]! :( Thanks anyways!

    (Suzuno Kamduki's insane was dropped from this project)
  16. Suzuno Kamduki = Thanks for Insane Suzuno! :?


BetaPlayers
  1. Leetrapoi (Hidden Hard Rock)
  2. Jeby (No Mod)
  3. Bowlglet (Hard Rock)
  4. Gaia (No Mod)
  5. Taeyang (Double Time / Hard Rock)
  6. iceandele (Double Time)
  7. Ryle (No Mod)
  8. MethClass (Hidden)
  9. Boy (Double Time)
  10. HighAboveMe (No Mod)
  11. Bad Pandah (No Mod)
  12. Reey (Hidden)
  13. Sh0ta (No Mod)
  14. SolarFox (No Mod)
  15. - Hakurei Reimu- (Double Time) OLD MAP FOR THIS REPLAY

    All of the test-players played nomod prior to using their favorite mods.

Translated Lyrics
—The overlapping silhouettes flew through the sky,
Spreading the wings on their backs.—

I have always thought
Maybe this isn’t enough.
More! Even if you face a headwind,
You can keep at it all the more, run the dream.

Even the vapor trail in the distant blue is competing!!

Flying through the sky, you laughed.
Is that all? We can fly far above.
The midsummer breeze, the scent of the sea, and everyone’s voices
Are my wings of courage.

We casually talked,
And then you suddenly looked my way.
More! I thought to myself.
Please don’t look away.

My true heart and the competition lie in the distant blue!!

We’re flying through the sky, you laughed.
That’s enough. We can continue to fly far above today.
The morning of a new beginning, the sun shines down, I want to see them once more,
My wings of courage.

Suddenly stopping, I looked up at the far-off sky.
If you can’t do it alone, let’s go together
Beyond the sky.

We flew through the sky, you laughed.
That’s all! We can fly far above.
The midsummer breeze, the scent of the sea, and everyone’s voices
Are my wings of courage.



:)
Arusamour
Insane (4.46 stars, 520 notes) Quick Modding
New Combos:
00:12:532 (5) - NC

00:23:970 (3) - NC

00:24:345 (4) - NC

00:24:345 (1) - NC

00:24:720 (2) - NC

00:25:095 (3) - NC

00:25:657 (8) - NC







Spacing:
00:04:095 (2) - Inconsistent spacing. It doesn't have the same spacing as 00:02:220 (1,2,3,1). Also slider end facing a bad direction. This plays out weird.

00:04:470 (3) - If you change ^, you will have to change this also.

00:05:032 (4) - Inconsistent spacing. Doesn't follow the same spacing as all of its previous notes.

00:07:845 (4) - Inconsistent spacing. It's boring because it copies 00:07:470 (3) and the song doesn't make the repetitiveness sound necessary.

00:08:970 (3,4) - Inconsistent spacing. Space it out like you did here: 00:08:220 (1,2)

00:09:720 (1,2,3) - Results in weird flow. I would place this on, x:268 y:208.

00:10:095 (3) - If you followed ^. Place this x:336 y:160.

00:11:220 (1) - You have 2 options here.
Option 1: Place this farther away (meaning that every other note has to adjust around this) and make this slider longer until 00:11:595 (2). like This and remove that single note on 00:11:595 (2). Why? Because it follows the vocals a lot better.

Option 2: Shorten the slider on 00:11:782 (3) to 00:11:970 (upcoming white tick). And place a single note on 00:12:157. Why? Because the few notes after it feels more impactful and matches it's previous pattern and the song better.

00:12:345 (5) - Personally, i think that the return slider should be moved to 00:12:532 and end at 00:12:720. This works a lot better with Option 1 stated ^.

00:13:282 (4) - I THINK. That this is incorrect spacing from 00:13:095 (3).

00:13:282 (4,5,6) - This pattern is too close and has shape.

00:16:095 (2,3,4,5,6) - Inconsistent spacing.

00:18:345 (4) - ^

00:19:095 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - ^

00:21:532 (5) - ^

00:22:657 (5) - ^

00:25:657 (7,8,9) - ^

00:28:095 (2,3,4,5) - ^

00:30:345 (5) - Feels ugly when placed straight down here. Try moving it out.

00:30:907 (2,3) - Inconsistent spacing

00:31:657 (4,5) - Try not to overlap this with 00:30:533 (1,2).

00:32:595 (2) - Not a fan of this slider and where it's facing.

00:32:970 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1) - Inconsistent spacing!!!!!!!!!!

00:35:407 (2,3) - ^

00:35:970 (4,5,6) - ^

00:42:157 (3) - ^.


[General]

  • Looks like you're new to mapping!
    There are a few big mistakes you were doing.
    1. INCONSISTENT SPACING.
    2. Not putting emphasis on some notes. If there is something very different about the song. If the song is playing the instrumental parts only, make it feel a little different at least from vocals. Think of placing longer sliders, or differently shaped slider. Also, try using Slider Velocity change depending on the song.

    I mention inconsistent spacing a lot because the map is really ugly. no offense (please don't kill me).
    Try using Distance Spacing, if you already so don't almost all the time since you look like new to mapping.
    For non jumps, use around 1.0x and for Jumps, use 1.5 - 2.0x Distance Snapping.
Topic Starter
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Boobs wrote:

Insane (4.46 stars, 520 notes) Quick Modding
New Combos:

NC has been checked by Taeyang long time ago.

00:12:532 (5) - NC No.

00:23:970 (3) - NC No.

00:24:345 (4) - NC No.

00:24:345 (1) - NC No.

00:24:720 (2) - NC No.

00:25:095 (3) - NC No.

00:25:657 (8) - NC No.

The NC are all right.





Spacing:
00:04:095 (2) - Inconsistent spacing. It doesn't have the same spacing as 00:02:220 (1,2,3,1). Also slider end facing a bad direction. This plays out weird.

Slider is facing the right direction for flow.
Fixed slightly for spacing.

00:04:470 (3) - If you change ^, you will have to change this also.

Moved a bit

00:05:032 (4) - Inconsistent spacing. Doesn't follow the same spacing as all of its previous notes.

It's a stack on purpose.

00:07:845 (4) - Inconsistent spacing. It's boring because it copies 00:07:470 (3) and the song doesn't make the repetitiveness sound necessary.

Leaving it as is for now. Spacing for that is fine. Also, can't change shape too much in such a slow part.

00:08:970 (3,4) - Inconsistent spacing. Space it out like you did here: 00:08:220 (1,2)

The actual inconsistency is at between those... (Checked by Gaia)
Fixed

00:09:720 (1,2,3) - Results in weird flow. I would place this on, x:268 y:208.

Ruins entire spacing after that. Current one is fine.

00:10:095 (3) - If you followed ^. Place this x:336 y:160.

00:11:220 (1) - You have 2 options here.
Option 1: Place this farther away (meaning that every other note has to adjust around this) and make this slider longer until 00:11:595 (2). like This and remove that single note on 00:11:595 (2). Why? Because it follows the vocals a lot better.

Current makes use of drum and vocals in better way. 1/1 slider in that part makes it slightly worse.

Option 2: Shorten the slider on 00:11:782 (3) to 00:11:970 (upcoming white tick). And place a single note on 00:12:157. Why? Because the few notes after it feels more impactful and matches it's previous pattern and the song better.

The slider completely follows the rhythm and beat.

00:12:345 (5) - Personally, i think that the return slider should be moved to 00:12:532 and end at 00:12:720. This works a lot better with Option 1 stated ^.

00:13:282 (4) - I THINK. That this is incorrect spacing from 00:13:095 (3).

This has been fixed before. I'll see about this when I ask other mapper friends.

00:13:282 (4,5,6) - This pattern is too close and has shape.

It's all right. No problem of having a shape as well...

00:16:095 (2,3,4,5,6) - Inconsistent spacing.

Moved #4 circle very slighly

00:18:345 (4) - ^

Current is correct

00:19:095 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - ^

Fixed.

00:21:532 (5) - ^

Fixed.

00:22:657 (5) - ^

Moved slightly

00:25:657 (7,8,9) - ^

Current is fine.

00:28:095 (2,3,4,5) - ^

Fixed

00:30:345 (5) - Feels ugly when placed straight down here. Try moving it out.

Fixed.

00:30:907 (2,3) - Inconsistent spacing

Fixed while doing the mod above

00:31:657 (4,5) - Try not to overlap this with 00:30:533 (1,2).

Fixed while doing the mod above

00:32:595 (2) - Not a fan of this slider and where it's facing.

It was facing the correct direction. Fixed the shape.

00:32:970 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1) - Inconsistent spacing!!!!!!!!!!

Those are actually same spacing if you look one by one.

00:35:407 (2,3) - ^

Nope.

00:35:970 (4,5,6) - ^

Leaving it as a no for now.

00:42:157 (3) - ^.

No.
Thanks for your mod, Boobs. (hue)



Anyone who is interested in modding: No More Mods Until I finish the beatmap. Thanks!
FreeSongs
Done!! http://puu.sh/j0q1m/128551cea3.osu :)

Awesome storyboard btw. I really enjoyed it when I was mapping ;w;
Topic Starter
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FreeSongs wrote:

Done!! http://puu.sh/j0q1m/128551cea3.osu :)

Awesome storyboard btw. I really enjoyed it when I was mapping ;w;
Thank you very much FreeSongs! Also, thanks for a star!
ChristieBell
hi ! can i make insane or extra?
Topic Starter
Sidetail

Suzuno Kamduki wrote:

hi ! can i make insane or extra?
Yes, but I would like it to be less difficult than my insane.

FreeSongs's Hard (3.53 Star) < Suzuno's Insane < Insane (4.47 Star)

Thanks.
ChristieBell
Topic Starter
Sidetail

Suzuno Kamduki wrote:

Suzuno's Insane ↓  ;) ;)

http://firestorage.jp/download/994ca4c9 ... 6e3ccf1ce0

or

http://puu.sh/j2Aqh/ffb68c9d8a.osu

Thanks Suzuno.
DerXello
Hey, normal one is still open? Would be interested in doing it. :)
Topic Starter
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DerXello wrote:

Hey, normal one is still open? Would be interested in doing it. :)
I requested a diff for Normal in GD queue, but I would love to get a GD for Easy. (Sake of difficulty spread)

thanks!
DerXello
....
Topic Starter
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DerXello wrote:

Sure, Easy is fine for me :)
I work on it!
Yeah, take your time! I will be slightly busy until mid August with exams and all that x)

Just noticed, thanks for stars DerXello!!
DerXello
....
Topic Starter
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DerXello wrote:

General Positioning and slidershapes will be changed later.


DerXello´s Easy 85% / 0%
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Wings of Courage.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 500
PreviewTime: 76376
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
EpilepsyWarning: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 44220,62220
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.700001

[Metadata]
Title:Wings of Courage -Sora o Koete-
TitleUnicode:Wings of Courage -空を超えて-
Artist:Kawada Mami
ArtistUnicode:川田まみ
Creator:BetaStar
Version:DerXello´s Easy
Source:蒼の彼方のフォーリズム
Tags:Ao no Kanata no Four Rhythm Shudaika opening Beyond the sky into the firmament
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:-1

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:1
CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:1
ApproachRate:3
SliderMultiplier:1.2
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Awesome!! Thanks! Now my map is almost complete!!!!

Wouldn't been able to complete this mapset without all of you!
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DerXello wrote:

Working on General Positioning and slidershapes.
There is an o missing in the Name :D
Updating the file here.


DerXello´s Easy 100% / 0%
osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:Wings of Courage -空を超えて-
Artist:Kawada Mami
ArtistUnicode:川田まみ
Creator:BetaStar
Version:DerXello's Easy
Source:蒼の彼方のフォーリズム
Tags:Ao no Kanata no Four Rhythm Shudaika opening Beyond the sky into the firmament
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*********** GD mapper agreed on collab to make more quality beatmap ***********

- DerXello & BetaStar = Easy.

Noticing more comments are in this thread as all GD mappers are spread across the world thus different time zone...

Thanks for your work.
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Suzuno's Insane

  • 00:05:220 (4) - This slider's appearance could be improved by curving it more, so that it can blanket nicely with the slider just before it.

    00:06:720 (7) - Stack the head of this slider onto (4)'s tail entirely, it's unevenly stacked as of right now, unless you were intending this.

    00:08:220 (1,2,3,4) - I think this pattern would look much nicer if you had a similar pattern going on at 00:09:720 (1,2,3,4) It looks sort of bland having those 4 sliders all appear the same, it would improve the aesthetics.

    00:13:095 (2) - Slant this slider the other way? That way, it flows into the upcoming stream more.

    00:13:470 (3,4,5,6,7) - I think this stream would look better if you have going more vertically up instead of diagonally.

    00:14:595 (2) - Position this note to form a more even triangle with (1) and (3)?

    00:16:095 (7) - Why not blanket this more evenly with the head of (3) in this combo? It would look more neat.

    00:16:657 (9) - Personally, I don't like the positioning of where this is currently placed. Try X:96/Y:48? I think this pattern emphasizes the sudden stop of music more for the upcoming note.

    00:16:657 (3,5) - Stack both of these notes on the note at 00:16:470 (8)

    00:17:595 (2) - Stack the head of this at the end of (8)'s tail in this combo.

    00:18:532 (6) - Tidy the curve up on this slider a bit, it forms an uneven blanket with the (4)

    00:20:220 (1,2) - Make both of these sliders curve the same? This would help improve the appearance of these sliders, and it could help improve the blanket slightly.

    00:20:970 (3) - Try moving this to X:232/Y:120 to improve the appearance of this star-like shape pattern you have going on here.

    00:22:470 (8,9,10) - You could try doing something similar to this pattern as I have mentioned in a pattern similar to this, just to emphasize the sudden stop of music more.

    00:23:595 (2) - This reverse slider needs to end so that it faces the next slider. This makes it uncomfortable to play and just doesn't play right.

    00:24:345 (2) - ^

    00:25:470 (3) - This note is kind of awkwardly placed here, I'd place it closer because the distance is a little bit too far.

    00:26:220 (1,2) - Blanket the head of (1) more evenly with (2).

    00:27:345 (5) - X:236/Y:80 looks better with this note, because it fits nicely in between the 2 notes.

    00:27:532 (6) - Curve this more so it can blanket nicely with the head of (1) and (4).

    00:28:657 (9) - This looks nicer at X:208/Y:156. While I'm at this pattern, I would create a more equal triangle with (8,9,10).

    00:29:970 (3,4,5) - I really don't know what I can suggest here, but I think you should re-map this segment. It looks scrunched up together and is awkward to play. If you decide the re-map this segment, make sure the (5) flows nicely towards the (6).

    00:32:595 (2) - Stack the head of this onto the tail at 00:33:720 (1)

    00:32:970 (3) - Curve this? It would flow nicely into the (4).

    00:34:657 (4) - Possibly start a new combo here? I think it would fit in.

    00:36:907 (1) - Adjust this reverse sliders so that it ends facing the next note.

    00:40:470 (1,2,3,4) - The spacing with these notes feels random to me, why not try making some kind of symmetrical shape out of this?

    00:41:595 (2) - Curve this to flow into the next note?

    00:43:095 (6) I think the appearance of this plays better at X:132/Y:40

    00:45:532 (4,6) - I'd make these identical to each other since the sliders at 00:48:532 (4,6) are identical.

    00:54:532 (5,6) - Stack these the same way you have this 00:53:970 (3,4) because you could have an identical pattern going on here.

    00:56:220 (4) - NC?

    01:02:220 (1,2,3,4) - Have all of these sliders be the exact same shape, the pattern would look much nicer and not look random.

    01:03:720 (5,6,7,8) - I would slightly adjust this pattern to be more even since it is a symmetrical pattern, the (8) looks uneven with the rest of this pattern.

    01:05:220 (1) - This note is awkwardly positioned away from the slider making it flow weird. I'd find a better place for it.

    01:08:970 (2) - CTRL + G? I think this would create a more interesting pattern to play.

    01:10:095 (2) - ^ You could possibly do something similar here.

    01:12:532 (8) - Place this directly in the middle between the 2 notes for a better appearance.

    01:17:970 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Nothing wrong with this pattern, however I would adjust a few things such as the positioning because it is sort of messy how it is placed, I would place a few notes in between other notes or stack some notes on others, it would improve the appearance of this pattern.

    01:20:032 (4) - I think this note plays better at X:328/Y:308

    01:21:720 (1,2,3,4,5) - Adjust this star pattern to appear more even.

    01:22:657 (6) - Looks nicer at X:308/Y:320

    01:24:157 (4) - This looks too close to 01:24:720 (1) making the blanket look weird, I would place that note so that it looks more in between 2 notes.

    01:38:595 (5) - Eh, this reverse slider feels random to me. I would just make this a stream full of hitcircles instead.

    01:39:157 (7) - Angle this more towards the next note.

    01:48:345 (4) - Adjust this slider a bit so that it blankets more evenly.

    01:50:595 (2) - Have this reverse slider end facing the next slider.

    01:51:345 (2) - ^

    01:52:470 (3) - Distance of this is questionable, I think it would play better if it was closer.

    01:53:595 (2) - CTRL + G? It plays nicer this way.

    01:56:220 (3,4,5) - Reduce this spacing a bit, it doesn't really sound too emphasized here.

    02:01:095 (2,3) - Stack these the same way as in the previous patterns before this? Adjust the upcoming notes if you do.

    02:02:220 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This segment of the stream looks a little bland, why not make a more interesting shape out of these?

    02:11:032 (9) - Maybe NC this to indicate it as being the last note of the song?
You can further improve your map by going back and adjust some patterns to look more neater, it would really help the map a lot!

Good luck with this!
Kuki
IRC, suggested remap to fix flow and helped fix a few other jumps and overlaps 8-)

SPOILER
2015-07-28 14:54 Kuki: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/741111 Kawada Mami - Wings of Courage -Sora o Koete- [Easy]]
2015-07-28 14:55 BetaStar: All righty
2015-07-28 14:55 BetaStar: Haha
2015-07-28 14:55 Kuki: 00:05:220 (3) - This slider I think could be a bit more... Round?
2015-07-28 14:56 BetaStar: Ok!
2015-07-28 14:56 Kuki: Not in a circle sense but more of the first and second points
2015-07-28 14:56 Kuki: This to me for example looks much nicer
2015-07-28 14:56 Kuki: http://puu.sh/jfwP9/71fdb3279e.jpg
2015-07-28 14:57 BetaStar: Ahh
2015-07-28 14:57 BetaStar: I see
2015-07-28 14:57 Kuki: 00:11:220 (1) - If I am correct I believe you need a larger gap here since it's an easy difficulty too
2015-07-28 14:57 BetaStar: between starting point of slider?
2015-07-28 14:58 Kuki: Yeah
2015-07-28 14:58 BetaStar: ?
2015-07-28 14:58 Kuki: Between the slider and the spinner
2015-07-28 14:59 BetaStar: Isn't early better for spinner?
2015-07-28 14:59 Kuki: It ends too late
2015-07-28 14:59 Kuki: as in, too close to the first slider there
2015-07-28 14:59 BetaStar: Ah
2015-07-28 14:59 BetaStar: Fixed!
2015-07-28 14:59 Kuki: :)
2015-07-28 15:00 Kuki: 00:16:657 - This section in sb seems like it may be a bit too fast?
2015-07-28 15:00 Kuki: It sticks out to me
2015-07-28 15:01 BetaStar: Sticks out too early or movement is too fast?
2015-07-28 15:01 BetaStar: ?
2015-07-28 15:01 Kuki: Movement is too fast
2015-07-28 15:01 Kuki: so it sticks out
2015-07-28 15:02 Kuki: 00:22:657 (3,1,2) - Even out spacing here
2015-07-28 15:02 Kuki: http://puu.sh/jfx9R/5032bdd45e.jpg
2015-07-28 15:02 Kuki: I see you're blanketing however so perhaps moving 00:22:657 (3) - to fix is an option
2015-07-28 15:03 Kuki: it could also perhaps do with a little emphasis so this change would work in your favour I think.
2015-07-28 15:04 BetaStar: Ah
2015-07-28 15:04 BetaStar: Fixed
2015-07-28 15:05 Kuki: cool
2015-07-28 15:06 BetaStar: Yes
2015-07-28 15:07 Kuki: 01:17:970 (2) - Try something like this here perhaps: http://puu.sh/jfxpc/145d173964.jpg
2015-07-28 15:08 Kuki: not exactly but screenshot is to give you a good idea
2015-07-28 15:08 BetaStar: Hmm
2015-07-28 15:08 BetaStar: I just made it simple so that beginners can read it easily haha
2015-07-28 15:08 Kuki: It's still relatively simple
2015-07-28 15:08 Kuki: not very many points
2015-07-28 15:09 Kuki: previous design although simple and easy to maneuver it didn't look very good imo
2015-07-28 15:09 Kuki: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/731428 Kawada Mami - Wings of Courage -Sora o Koete- [Insane]]
2015-07-28 15:09 BetaStar: I slightly enhanced that slider to make more even
2015-07-28 15:09 BetaStar: Oh
2015-07-28 15:09 BetaStar: Insane
2015-07-28 15:10 Kuki: 00:01:845 (3) - Move to X=119 Y=350
2015-07-28 15:10 Kuki: Alright, good
2015-07-28 15:10 Kuki: 00:03:345 (3,1,2) - This feels a little overmapped to me honestly
2015-07-28 15:11 Kuki: well
2015-07-28 15:11 Kuki: it is
2015-07-28 15:11 Kuki: lol
2015-07-28 15:11 Kuki: mapped to nothing
2015-07-28 15:11 Kuki: 00:03:720 - this is the only thing you could map to, spinner wouldn't suit so perhaps a slow slider?
2015-07-28 15:11 Kuki: or just a single but that would be a bit bland I think
2015-07-28 15:12 BetaStar: Hmm..
2015-07-28 15:12 BetaStar: Yeah that's why I ended up using these 1/2 sliders
2015-07-28 15:12 Kuki: yeah
2015-07-28 15:12 Kuki: Slow slider does work
2015-07-28 15:12 Kuki: imo it's just too overmapped to work in it's current state
2015-07-28 15:13 Kuki: 00:07:845 (4) - Ctrl+G, it flows nicer from (3) and to (1)
2015-07-28 15:13 BetaStar: I check again with others and see if they think the same thing! Currently I am out of idea for that haha
2015-07-28 15:13 BetaStar: wouldn't that make
2015-07-28 15:14 BetaStar: that spacing uneven?
2015-07-28 15:14 BetaStar: 3->4->1
2015-07-28 15:15 Kuki: it is buttt
2015-07-28 15:15 Kuki: 00:07:845 (4) - shouldn't be very emphasised
2015-07-28 15:15 Kuki: 00:08:220 (1) - should be emphasised
2015-07-28 15:15 Kuki: so it still works
2015-07-28 15:16 BetaStar: All right
2015-07-28 15:16 Kuki: 00:08:220 (1,2,3,4) - uneven spacing
2015-07-28 15:17 Kuki: (1) (2) (3) all 2.0 but then (4) is 1.6
2015-07-28 15:17 BetaStar: Ah
2015-07-28 15:17 Kuki: found fix though
2015-07-28 15:17 Kuki: copy 00:08:220 (1,2) -
2015-07-28 15:18 Kuki: Rotate by 45 degrees
2015-07-28 15:18 BetaStar: Oh just moved
2015-07-28 15:18 BetaStar: the fourth
2015-07-28 15:18 BetaStar: Haha
2015-07-28 15:18 Kuki: and while they're still both selected stack on (3)
2015-07-28 15:19 Kuki: yea
2015-07-28 15:19 Kuki: probably better that way
2015-07-28 15:19 Kuki: your way I mean
2015-07-28 15:19 BetaStar: x)
2015-07-28 15:20 Kuki: 00:29:595 (3,5) - Fix overlap // Stack
2015-07-28 15:20 BetaStar: Fixed
2015-07-28 15:21 Kuki: 00:33:345 (5,3) - Stack sliderend // fix overlap again
2015-07-28 15:22 BetaStar: Fixed!
2015-07-28 15:22 Kuki: 00:34:282 (3,5) - not a fan of this overlap
2015-07-28 15:22 Kuki: 00:36:157 (5,4) - fix overlap // stack\
2015-07-28 15:22 BetaStar: I did that
2015-07-28 15:22 BetaStar: to make
2015-07-28 15:22 Kuki: do you testplay your maps?
2015-07-28 15:22 Kuki: yeah I see
2015-07-28 15:22 BetaStar: 00:34:845 (5,1,2,3) -
2015-07-28 15:22 Kuki: symmetry
2015-07-28 15:22 BetaStar: even
2015-07-28 15:22 BetaStar: yes
2015-07-28 15:22 Kuki: stack 00:36:157 (5) - then
2015-07-28 15:23 Kuki: a lot of your flow is quite off
2015-07-28 15:23 Kuki: while going through this set
2015-07-28 15:24 BetaStar: stacked
2015-07-28 15:24 Kuki: cool.
2015-07-28 15:24 Kuki: How long have you been mapping?
2015-07-28 15:25 BetaStar: Hmm, maybe slightly over a year?
2015-07-28 15:25 BetaStar: I just ask my friend a lot
2015-07-28 15:25 BetaStar: haha
2015-07-28 15:25 BetaStar: He is from my school
2015-07-28 15:25 Kuki: mm
2015-07-28 15:25 Kuki: well
2015-07-28 15:25 BetaStar: Beatmap Nominator x)
2015-07-28 15:25 Kuki: imo
2015-07-28 15:25 Kuki: you need to work on flow
2015-07-28 15:25 BetaStar: Oh yeah
2015-07-28 15:25 Kuki: you have most things down
2015-07-28 15:25 Kuki: but flow is really lacking in your sets atm
2015-07-28 15:26 BetaStar: I actually did try my best for flow x)
2015-07-28 15:27 Kuki: well you still need to learn a bit then
2015-07-28 15:27 Kuki: 01:06:345 (5,6,1) -
2015-07-28 15:27 Kuki: that for example
2015-07-28 15:27 Kuki: cursor moves from 5 -> 6
2015-07-28 15:27 Kuki: then from 6 you move up and left
2015-07-28 15:27 Kuki: to only stop
2015-07-28 15:27 Kuki: and move down and right
2015-07-28 15:27 Kuki: you see how it's contradicting?
2015-07-28 15:28 BetaStar: I see!
2015-07-28 15:28 Kuki: Some of your jumps seem a little random too
2015-07-28 15:28 Kuki: I liked the symmetry of some of the ones earlier
2015-07-28 15:28 Kuki: when you have nothing to work with
2015-07-28 15:28 Kuki: just make a pattern
2015-07-28 15:28 Kuki: e.g a star, or a square, or a triangle
2015-07-28 15:29 Kuki: just make something symmetrical and use rotate and scale etc
2015-07-28 15:29 Kuki: But when you have notes already on the screen
2015-07-28 15:29 Kuki: like this http://puu.sh/jfyyq/db4ee42e32.jpg
2015-07-28 15:29 Kuki: Work with them to create a set of jumps
2015-07-28 15:29 Kuki: via stacking
2015-07-28 15:29 BetaStar: [http://puu.sh/jfyyp/fe1c436da1.jpg this is slightly better right?]
2015-07-28 15:29 BetaStar: Hmm
2015-07-28 15:30 Kuki: That honestly is pretty much the same
2015-07-28 15:30 Kuki: it looks nicer
2015-07-28 15:30 Kuki: but it's still the same
2015-07-28 15:30 Kuki: http://puu.sh/jfyCE/82ee6cd115.jpg
2015-07-28 15:30 Kuki: See how i'm still moving back to move fowards?
2015-07-28 15:31 BetaStar: Hmmm
2015-07-28 15:31 BetaStar: Haha
2015-07-28 15:31 BetaStar: I'll get back on this with some idea
2015-07-28 15:32 Kuki: something like this works well
2015-07-28 15:32 Kuki: http://puu.sh/jfyGy/1c4507176e.jpg
2015-07-28 15:32 Kuki: 01:18:720 (1,3) - fix overlap
2015-07-28 15:33 BetaStar: bad flow after slider #1?
2015-07-28 15:33 BetaStar: Haha, mapping so hard
2015-07-28 15:33 Kuki: not quite
2015-07-28 15:33 BetaStar: that's there for 01:19:470 (3,4,5,6) -
2015-07-28 15:33 Kuki: close to it but not quite
2015-07-28 15:33 Kuki: see how (1)'s sliderend is relatively on the same level as (2)'s?
2015-07-28 15:34 BetaStar: Hmmm
2015-07-28 15:34 BetaStar: Yes
2015-07-28 15:34 Kuki: http://puu.sh/jfyNJ/748961cd77.jpg
2015-07-28 15:34 Kuki: however
2015-07-28 15:34 Kuki: spacing is still off
2015-07-28 15:34 Kuki: if you really do want to fix flow I would suggest a remap
2015-07-28 15:35 Kuki: and perhaps look at some of Skystar/Amamiya Yuko's maps for example?
2015-07-28 15:35 Kuki: His maps have crazy good flow
2015-07-28 15:35 Kuki: especially Dreamless Wanderer
2015-07-28 15:35 BetaStar: Errr, no his maps are less slow than Guy's
2015-07-28 15:35 BetaStar: flow*
2015-07-28 15:35 Kuki: Guy's maps don't have much flow
2015-07-28 15:35 BetaStar: I'll see what I can do with that map
2015-07-28 15:35 BetaStar: !
2015-07-28 15:35 Kuki: Yeah
2015-07-28 15:35 BetaStar: part*
2015-07-28 15:36 Kuki: Yep
2015-07-28 15:36 Kuki: but yeah
2015-07-28 15:37 Kuki: imo you will need to remap to perfect flow
2015-07-28 15:37 Kuki: sometimes testing by yourself isn't enough
2015-07-28 15:37 Kuki: because you know the patterns
2015-07-28 15:37 Kuki: so flow isn't as clear
2015-07-28 15:37 Kuki: 02:05:595 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -
2015-07-28 15:38 Kuki: Are you planning on hitsounding?
2015-07-28 15:38 BetaStar: http://puu.sh/jfyXZ/7de53180bf.png
2015-07-28 15:38 Kuki: because it's like you mapped kiai to nothing there
2015-07-28 15:38 BetaStar: Test players ;_;
2015-07-28 15:38 BetaStar: Oh there is four other ranked maps, and I looked at their kiai
2015-07-28 15:38 Kuki: Don't let people play with mods
2015-07-28 15:38 Kuki: for starters
2015-07-28 15:38 BetaStar: it started there, haha
2015-07-28 15:38 Kuki: yeah it's just
2015-07-28 15:38 BetaStar: They all tried
2015-07-28 15:38 Kuki: with current hitvolume
2015-07-28 15:38 BetaStar: without mod for first
2015-07-28 15:38 Kuki: it sounds mapped to nothing
Hiyori


Hello there from my Queue! Don't forget to vote on my poll. Thank you!


Easy:
  1. 00:22:657 (3) - this is too sudden for an Easy diff. How to fix: Extend 00:21:720 (2) - till 00:22:470 then delete 00:22:657 (3) - and replace with a circle here
  2. 01:35:220 (2) - curve this to emphasize the chorus
  3. 00:59:595 (2,3,4) - fix DS
  4. 01:24:345 (3) - reduce end tail to 01:24:720 then add circle at 01:25:095like this
  5. 01:35:220 (2,3) - fix overlap

Manul's Normal:
  1. 00:14:970 (1,4) - try not to overlap
  2. 00:34:095 (4,1) - ^^
  3. 00:37:282 (2) - i think this slider is too fast for new players, just try a simple reverse slider
  4. There's some inconsistency with this diff but It can be fixed. Feel free to pm me ingame.

FreeSongs' Hard:
  1. 00:33:532 (6,7,8,9,10) - make this flow a bit cleaner
  2. 00:57:345 (4) - follow DS for this one

Love the song! Good luck! :)
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Hiyori wrote:



Hello there from my Queue! Don't forget to vote on my poll. Thank you!


Easy:
  1. 00:22:657 (3) - this is too sudden for an Easy diff. How to fix: Extend 00:21:720 (2) - till 00:22:470 then delete 00:22:657 (3) - and replace with a circle here Done!
  2. 01:35:220 (2) - curve this to emphasize the chorus Done!
  3. 00:59:595 (2,3,4) - fix DS Done!
  4. 01:24:345 (3) - reduce end tail to 01:24:720 then add circle at 01:25:095like this Done!
  5. 01:35:220 (2,3) - fix overlap ???


Love the song! Good luck! :)

Awesome! Thank you. I'll apply this mod tomorrow!

Edit: Done applying!!
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