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ikumi - Watashi no 71% <OVA ver.> [CatchTheBeat]
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[Cup]
- 00:25:473 (1,2) - I'd move this a bit to the right to reduce the distance, since this is a calm part. I'd also put (2) on the same x-position than the sliderend, it looks cleaner.
- 00:30:414 (2) - I'd also put this a little bit closer since this part is still calm. However, since this is also a bit stronger and with a higher pitch, then a not so short distance can be used. I think x:224 is a safe compromise between a distance low enough to follow the calm part, but larger than the rest to emphasize the higher vocal.
- 00:48:061 (1,2) - Same reason, I'd move this a bit to the right.
- 01:20:355 (2,1) - I think I already mentioned this and it got denied. And no, if you don't change it, it will still be okay, but I really think this is better as a long slider.
- 02:56:356 (2,1) - ^Same
- 01:45:238 (2,3) - This could have a bit more distance for more emphasis. Maybe moving (2) one grid space to the right and (3) one grid space to the left (or only (2), if you think both are too much) could be better.
- 02:16:649 (1,2,3) - I wouldn't recommend to start so close to the border after a break in a Cup. Maybe putting (1) to the right of (2) is better.
- 03:07:826 (3) - I'd move this a bit to the right, as the vocal is quite strong so this short distance is underwhelming. x:384 seems fine.
- 03:19:120 (3) - Move this to the right, the vocal is strong so it deserves a bit more emphasis.
- 03:24:767 (2) - Same, this could have a bit more distance for emphasis.
- 01:05:708 - Ugh, the clap is really missed here, because it loses consistency. I think you could add two inherited sections on this part (like this) and make the first one have a custom sampleset where you use the soft-hitclap as soft-slidertick.
- 01:14:179 - ^Same applies for this spot
- 01:17:002 - ^Same
- 01:19:826 - ^Same
- 02:50:179 - ^Same
- 02:53:003 - ^Same
- 02:55:826 - ^Same
- 01:35:002 - The same idea from the hitsounds applies here. The drum hitsound is really missed, so you could create another custom sampleset where you add your soft-hitclap9 as soft-slidertick.
- 01:46:296 - ^Same
- 01:51:944 - ^Same
- 03:08:179 - ^Same
- 03:19:473 - ^Same
- 03:25:120 - ^Same
- 00:18:061 (4,1) - I'd shorten this (and other similar) spacings as this is a really calm part.
- 01:38:002 (3,4) - This distance might be a bit hard to catch without dashing, but there's nothing in the music that tells me "you have to dash!", so I'd reduce it a bit.
- 01:55:649 (3,1) - Same, this distance is tricky.
- 01:33:944 (2,3) - This distance can be a bit hard to catch, and it's easy to miss the hyperdash because of that. Move (3) a bit to the right (maybe x:112) to make it a bit easier.
- 01:13:473 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I'd put these doublets more closer. It requires some small and intermittent dashing which doesn't really fit the pace of the song.
- 03:07:650 (5,6) - This is really underwhelming. Distance to (6) should be larger because it's a strong vocal, even a hyperdash would be justified
- 03:36:061 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This feel like trolling right near the end. I'd go for a easier pattern.
Topic Starter
Others are fixed!ZiRoX wrote:
[Cup]Hitsounding
- 00:25:473 (1,2) - I'd move this a bit to the right to reduce the distance, since this is a calm part. I'd also put (2) on the same x-position than the sliderend, it looks cleaner.
- 00:30:414 (2) - I'd also put this a little bit closer since this part is still calm. However, since this is also a bit stronger and with a higher pitch, then a not so short distance can be used. I think x:224 is a safe compromise between a distance low enough to follow the calm part, but larger than the rest to emphasize the higher vocal.
- 00:48:061 (1,2) - Same reason, I'd move this a bit to the right.
- 01:20:355 (2,1) - I think I already mentioned this and it got denied. And no, if you don't change it, it will still be okay, but I really think this is better as a long slider. Long slider doesn't work well here imo, and in terms of aesthetics I also think a long slider is not as good as a spinner.
- 02:56:356 (2,1) - ^Same This can be changed but we need consistency here.
- 01:45:238 (2,3) - This could have a bit more distance for more emphasis. Maybe moving (2) one grid space to the right and (3) one grid space to the left (or only (2), if you think both are too much) could be better.
- 02:16:649 (1,2,3) - I wouldn't recommend to start so close to the border after a break in a Cup. Maybe putting (1) to the right of (2) is better.
- 03:07:826 (3) - I'd move this a bit to the right, as the vocal is quite strong so this short distance is underwhelming. x:384 seems fine.
- 03:19:120 (3) - Move this to the right, the vocal is strong so it deserves a bit more emphasis.
- 03:24:767 (2) - Same, this could have a bit more distance for emphasis.
Fixed the hitsound. (examination has mentioned these hitsound issue before in his mod, but I ignored that x.x
- 01:05:708 - Ugh, the clap is really missed here, because it loses consistency. I think you could add two inherited sections on this part (like this) and make the first one have a custom sampleset where you use the soft-hitclap as soft-slidertick.
- 01:14:179 - ^Same applies for this spot
- 01:17:002 - ^Same
- 01:19:826 - ^Same
- 02:50:179 - ^Same
- 02:53:003 - ^Same
- 02:55:826 - ^Same
- 01:35:002 - The same idea from the hitsounds applies here. The drum hitsound is really missed, so you could create another custom sampleset where you add your soft-hitclap9 as soft-slidertick.
- 01:46:296 - ^Same
- 01:51:944 - ^Same
- 03:08:179 - ^Same
- 03:19:473 - ^Same
- 03:25:120 - ^Same
[Rain]The hitsounds in the Cup were the main thing that caught my mind, so I wanted to point that out before JBH and Spec pushed this forward. Good luck!
- 03:07:650 (5,6) - This is really underwhelming. Distance to (6) should be larger because it's a strong vocal, even a hyperdash would be justified
- 03:36:061 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This feel like trolling right near the end. I'd go for a easier pattern. I think keeping it is fine.
Thank you! It's really helpful.
all fixed
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352,249,206532,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,252,206620,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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220,200,207061,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,196,207238,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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336,272,207591,5,0,0:0:0:0:
208,300,207767,1,0,0:0:0:0:
104,248,207944,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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440,200,210414,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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Thanks for mod.ZiRoX wrote:
[Salad]The hitsounds in the Cup were the main thing that caught my mind, so I wanted to point that out before JBH and Spec pushed this forward. Good luck!
- 00:18:061 (4,1) - I'd shorten this (and other similar) spacings as this is a really calm part. - Fixed.
- 01:38:002 (3,4) - This distance might be a bit hard to catch without dashing, but there's nothing in the music that tells me "you have to dash!", so I'd reduce it a bit. - Sure.
- 01:55:649 (3,1) - Same, this distance is tricky. - Alright.
http://puu.sh/lxU0b/93db59514b.txt
Topic Starter
All updated.
@JBH @Spec
Other changes in Unfettered are:
03:36:061 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Changed the pattern.
03:24:061 (3) - Put it a bit more right.
@JBH @Spec
Other changes in Unfettered are:
03:36:061 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Changed the pattern.
03:24:061 (3) - Put it a bit more right.
02:12:767 (1,2) - this jump is pretty tough for platter
Also
I rechecked the frequency after redownloading the map several times and it's still 320kbps
does this happen to only me?
Also
I rechecked the frequency after redownloading the map several times and it's still 320kbps
does this happen to only me?
Topic Starter
fixed with Xinely's authorization.
I guess soSpectator wrote:
I rechecked the frequency after redownloading the map several times and it's still 320kbps
does this happen to only me?
alright then
Fixing bubble
Fixing bubble
Beautiful song, great mapset, and a really nice storyboard too. Good work guys 
Qualified~
Qualified~
*-*/ Finally, RIP Taiko diffs u.u Gratz, osu need more ctb sets :3
Congrats!
Hey, dream come true equim, congrats 
nice
we tried... but this song is better on CTB anyways (●´ω｀●) gratz!
finallyy congratz equim!
Congratz on Qualified 
There!
I have to disqualify this because of the Storyboard issues.
[Storyboard]
White.png is way too bright and can blind players for a sec which can cause miss easily.
01:02:179 -
01:27:591 -
01:38:885 -
etc
This could be solved easily if you make this image less bright.
Moreover some of your images used as background are too bright compared with the rest, this can also cause some issue at the first few second after it appears. Since its takes a while for the eyes to adjust themselves.
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Some extra
[Unfettered]
01:43:826 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Its really easy to get a miss at this point because of the Hypers. I suggest you to move the notes closer in both of these to make the chance smaller.
01:49:825 (2,3,4,5) - Its really hard to get the correct timing at this point as there is a huge distance between (2,3) on the timeline but its small on the playfield while (4,5) is the exact opposite of it. I don't think (4,5) needs to be a Hyper anyway.
02:02:885 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - What a messed up pattern. (2,3) don't need to be a jump while at the same time (5,6) and (7,8) don't need to be Hyper as there is nothing to be highlighted at that point.
03:17:003 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - The exact same problem as before.
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This could be moved back to qualified fast after the issues solved. Good luck. o/
[Storyboard]
White.png is way too bright and can blind players for a sec which can cause miss easily.
01:02:179 -
01:27:591 -
01:38:885 -
etc
This could be solved easily if you make this image less bright.
Moreover some of your images used as background are too bright compared with the rest, this can also cause some issue at the first few second after it appears. Since its takes a while for the eyes to adjust themselves.
- a (7).png
- b (4).png
- b.png
- a (1).png
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Some extra
[Unfettered]
01:43:826 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Its really easy to get a miss at this point because of the Hypers. I suggest you to move the notes closer in both of these to make the chance smaller.
01:49:825 (2,3,4,5) - Its really hard to get the correct timing at this point as there is a huge distance between (2,3) on the timeline but its small on the playfield while (4,5) is the exact opposite of it. I don't think (4,5) needs to be a Hyper anyway.
02:02:885 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - What a messed up pattern. (2,3) don't need to be a jump while at the same time (5,6) and (7,8) don't need to be Hyper as there is nothing to be highlighted at that point.
03:17:003 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - The exact same problem as before.
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This could be moved back to qualified fast after the issues solved. Good luck. o/
Just giving my two cents.
I'm open to getting some more discussion going, but I have to say I don't agree with any of this. I feel the storyboard "issues" are exaggerated and the map "issues" are contrived. It's up to Equim on how to address this however - poke me as soon as you're changed whatever you want to change.Kurokami wrote:
I have to disqualify this because of the Storyboard issues.
[Storyboard]
White.png is way too bright and can blind players for a sec which can cause miss easily.
01:02:179 -
01:27:591 -
01:38:885 -
etc
This could be solved easily if you make this image less bright. I have honestly never seen a problem with this during play, the image isn't excessively bright in my opinion and the strain on the eyes is lessened significantly because of the gradual fade-in and out. If you're particularly sensitive to this kind of thing, turn the SB off - there's an epilepsy warning for a reason.
Moreover some of your images used as background are too bright compared with the rest, this can also cause some issue at the first few second after it appears. Since its takes a while for the eyes to adjust themselves.It would be nice if you could replace these with some less bright image or make them a little bit darker. Yet a (3).png and b (1).png are fine? They both contain similarly bright regions comparable to those you listed. Again, all of these are faded in really slowly, giving the player plenty of time to adjust to a minimal change. Compared to white.png, which I already feel is used appropriately in a way that should not cause an issue, this is trivial.
- a (7).png
- b (4).png
- b.png
- a (1).png
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Some extra
[Unfettered]
01:43:826 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Its really easy to get a miss at this point because of the Hypers. I suggest you to move the notes closer in both of these to make the chance smaller. I feel this flows really nicely already tbh; 4-4.25* is at the limit of what I feel I can play comfortably in a CtB specific diff, and I've never had an issue with this pattern in it's current form. We tweaked this pattern significantly during the modding process to perfect the flow and playability, and the result is a nice-flowing and interesting pattern that provides some individuality to the difficulty.
01:49:825 (2,3,4,5) - Its really hard to get the correct timing at this point as there is a huge distance between (2,3) on the timeline but its small on the playfield while (4,5) is the exact opposite of it. I don't think (4,5) needs to be a Hyper anyway. (2,3) needs to be a smaller spacing than expected to reduce the difficulty of catching (3) after the strong hdash from 01:49:296 (1) - after making this jump, 01:49:825 (2,3,4) is a simple walkable pattern. Also, (4,5) needs to be a hyper to maintain consistency with similar patterns such as 01:33:149 (6,1) - 03:06:326 (6,1) - 03:23:179 (4,1) -
02:02:885 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - What a messed up pattern. (2,3) don't need to be a jump while at the same time (5,6) and (7,8) don't need to be Hyper as there is nothing to be highlighted at that point. Have you tried listening to the music here? There's a clear buildup in intensity of the drumroll and vocal sounds which is befitting of increased patterning
03:17:003 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - The exact same problem as before. Exact response as before, there is no problem here imo
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This could be moved back to qualified fast after the issues solved. Good luck. o/
Ayy, time to go deeper then.
No one said those are issues to begin with. I just pointed them out because I feel like they could be better. Nothing more nothing less.JBHyperion wrote:
Just giving my two cents.
I have honestly never seen a problem with this during play, the image isn't excessively bright in my opinion and the strain on the eyes is lessened significantly because of the gradual fade-in and out. If you're particularly sensitive to this kind of thing, turn the SB off - there's an epilepsy warning for a reason. Well, not excessively bright? http://bit.ly/1lB52Si Its a full white image with 1x fading. That is a full white image right in the face. The SB in itself is fine, but not along with the hitobjects as they are hard to see while this image is the brightest. Yes, if you play this 5th time, you know what comes next but what matters is the first impression (mainly). You can't suggest someone to "just turn it off". Thats not the reason why that feature added. What if he want to enjoy both at the same time?
Yet a (3).png and b (1).png are fine? They both contain similarly bright regions comparable to those you listed. Again, all of these are faded in really slowly, giving the player plenty of time to adjust to a minimal change. Compared to white.png, which I already feel is used appropriately in a way that should not cause an issue, this is trivial. b (1) has its bright part on the right side while the object are mainly placed in the center and left, that won't cause problems. a (3).png is also fine because its bright part can't be compared with the mentioned ones, this image has a somewhat darker brightness which is actually nice to see. The problem with this images is not the fade in or how they do that, its because during the time they are up, some hitobject is blending inside the bright part.
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Some extra
[Unfettered]
01:43:826 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Its really easy to get a miss at this point because of the Hypers. I suggest you to move the notes closer in both of these to make the chance smaller. I feel this flows really nicely already tbh; 4-4.25* is at the limit of what I feel I can play comfortably in a CtB specific diff, and I've never had an issue with this pattern in it's current form. We tweaked this pattern significantly during the modding process to perfect the flow and playability, and the result is a nice-flowing and interesting pattern that provides some individuality to the difficulty. Nah, I just moved (1) one grid to right and (3) (in the first combo) and the pattern already plays a lot better. The second (1,2,3) can even remain the same with this change.
01:49:825 (2,3,4,5) - Its really hard to get the correct timing at this point as there is a huge distance between (2,3) on the timeline but its small on the playfield while (4,5) is the exact opposite of it. I don't think (4,5) needs to be a Hyper anyway. (2,3) needs to be a smaller spacing than expected to reduce the difficulty of catching (3) after the strong hdash from 01:49:296 (1) - after making this jump, 01:49:825 (2,3,4) is a simple walkable pattern. Also, (4,5) needs to be a hyper to maintain consistency with similar patterns such as 01:33:149 (6,1) - 03:06:326 (6,1) - 03:23:179 (4,1) - Yea, those don't need to be a Hyper as well. They are fine as a simple jump but none of them is strong enough for a Hyper.
02:02:885 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - What a messed up pattern. (2,3) don't need to be a jump while at the same time (5,6) and (7,8) don't need to be Hyper as there is nothing to be highlighted at that point. Have you tried listening to the music here? There's a clear buildup in intensity of the drumroll and vocal sounds which is befitting of increased patterning Buildup? Sure. Then why there are no objects on 1/4 beats, at least at the second part of this combo? There are still clear drumsounds. But answering to you, the buildup contains no strong sounds except 02:03:591 vocal part, it has the same sound all over, which can be followed with higher movement but definitely not with Hypers.
03:17:003 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - The exact same problem as before. Exact response as before, there is no problem here imo
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and the map "issues" are contrived.
Ok some samples here
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/296724
01:20:496 - 01:20:907
01:46:797 - 01:47:208
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/261911
01:37:545 - 01:41:842
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/186911
02:21:746 - 02:22:255
I guess the transitions in this map are much milder
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/296724
01:20:496 - 01:20:907
01:46:797 - 01:47:208
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/261911
01:37:545 - 01:41:842
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/186911
02:21:746 - 02:22:255
I guess the transitions in this map are much milder
Topic Starter
Besides 01:43:826 (1,2,3) - and 03:17:003 (1,2,3) - , 02:02:797 - and 03:35:973 - (huge changes). The only change is in 01:53:885 (6,7,8,1,2,3) - (slightly optimized the droplet).Kurokami wrote:
Ayy, time to go deeper then.No one said those are issues to begin with. I just pointed them out because I feel like they could be better. Nothing more nothing less.JBHyperion wrote:
Just giving my two cents.
I have honestly never seen a problem with this during play, the image isn't excessively bright in my opinion and the strain on the eyes is lessened significantly because of the gradual fade-in and out. If you're particularly sensitive to this kind of thing, turn the SB off - there's an epilepsy warning for a reason. Well, not excessively bright? http://bit.ly/1lB52Si Its a full white image with 1x fading. That is a full white image right in the face. The SB in itself is fine, but not along with the hitobjects as they are hard to see while this image is the brightest. Yes, if you play this 5th time, you know what comes next but what matters is the first impression (mainly). You can't suggest someone to "just turn it off". Thats not the reason why that feature added. What if he want to enjoy both at the same time? Just one point, are you sure that you are using the default skin? Test it with default skin you will find the fruits are clear enough for players to catch (see this image). Here is another example from MitiS & MaHi - Blu (Speed Up Ver.) [Serena's Overdose], look at 01:38:262 - , which is much brighter than my case.
Yet a (3).png and b (1).png are fine? They both contain similarly bright regions comparable to those you listed. Again, all of these are faded in really slowly, giving the player plenty of time to adjust to a minimal change. Compared to white.png, which I already feel is used appropriately in a way that should not cause an issue, this is trivial. b (1) has its bright part on the right side while the object are mainly placed in the center and left, that won't cause problems. a (3).png is also fine because its bright part can't be compared with the mentioned ones, this image has a somewhat darker brightness which is actually nice to see. The problem with this images is not the fade in or how they do that, its because during the time they are up, some hitobject is blending inside the bright part.
Would you point out such issue if I picked any single of them as the background image? I have never heard of such BG-too-bright-then-dq.
Some extra
[Unfettered]
01:43:826 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Its really easy to get a miss at this point because of the Hypers. I suggest you to move the notes closer in both of these to make the chance smaller. I feel this flows really nicely already tbh; 4-4.25* is at the limit of what I feel I can play comfortably in a CtB specific diff, and I've never had an issue with this pattern in it's current form. We tweaked this pattern significantly during the modding process to perfect the flow and playability, and the result is a nice-flowing and interesting pattern that provides some individuality to the difficulty. Nah, I just moved (1) one grid to right and (3) (in the first combo) and the pattern already plays a lot better. The second (1,2,3) can even remain the same with this change.01:44:002 (3,1) - will lose HDash if I do so. This pattern is totally fine. I mapped based on the song and difficulty, since they are more objective. Whether it is hard to play or not is varied from players to players.I misunderstood, fixed.
01:49:825 (2,3,4,5) - Its really hard to get the correct timing at this point as there is a huge distance between (2,3) on the timeline but its small on the playfield while (4,5) is the exact opposite of it. I don't think (4,5) needs to be a Hyper anyway. (2,3) needs to be a smaller spacing than expected to reduce the difficulty of catching (3) after the strong hdash from 01:49:296 (1) - after making this jump, 01:49:825 (2,3,4) is a simple walkable pattern. Also, (4,5) needs to be a hyper to maintain consistency with similar patterns such as 01:33:149 (6,1) - 03:06:326 (6,1) - 03:23:179 (4,1) - Yea, those don't need to be a Hyper as well. They are fine as a simple jump but none of them is strong enough for a Hyper. It's too boring if there's no HDash at those points. Those patterns are at the ends of individual parts of the song and serve as transitions between different parts.
02:02:885 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - What a messed up pattern. (2,3) don't need to be a jump while at the same time (5,6) and (7,8) don't need to be Hyper as there is nothing to be highlighted at that point. Have you tried listening to the music here? There's a clear buildup in intensity of the drumroll and vocal sounds which is befitting of increased patterning Buildup? Sure. Then why there are no objects on 1/4 beats, at least at the second part of this combo? There are still clear drumsounds. But answering to you, the buildup contains no strong sounds except 02:03:591 vocal part, it has the same sound all over, which can be followed with higher movement but definitely not with Hypers.Listen to 02:03:238 - carefully, there's a stronger drumhit. Honestly there are some 1/4 beats but it's not suitable to map them in Rain. As the drumhits and vocal become stronger, the distances get wider as well. What's wrong with it?I'll try to change.
03:17:003 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - The exact same problem as before. Exact response as before, there is no problem here imo
and the map "issues" are contrived.
More discussions are welcome.
I had a quick quick look at this, had a small conversation with JBH and this is my opinion I guess, wording might be a big strong because I've just had an annoying exam.
If anything doesn't make sense then just PM me ingame I guess.
Bully Log
15:07 Riari: 01:43:826 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - His point makes sense
15:08 Riari: the distance increase from 01:43:120 (5,6) - is sudden, i'd change it to make it thinner. I'd even remove the hypers because the emphasis on 01:44:531 (1) - is reduced in comparison to the screenjumps
15:10 Riari: 01:49:825 (2,3,4,5) - is fine, the only problem with it is the reverse flow comming from 01:49:296 (1) - into 01:49:825 (2) - that even causes a problem for this
15:12 JBHyperion: 01:43:120 (5,6) - can't be much smaller whilst still maintaining a hyper - the vocal sounds are much stronger here than on the previous slider heads
15:12 Riari: 02:02:885 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - is a mess in my opinion, 02:03:414 (4,5) - is the only hyper that should be present, a smaller pattern of 02:02:885 (1,2,3,4) - that has distance increased for 02:03:591 (5,6,7,8) - would work perfectly but it just plays like a mess.
15:13 JBHyperion: I actually find 01:49:120 (3,1,2) - less awkward with the antiflow, I find it easier to overshoot (2) with a more "natural" flow fsr
15:14 JBHyperion: and afaik that last section is being remade
15:14 JBHyperion: speaking to Kuro about it now
15:15 Riari: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4071273 quick example of what I meant
15:15 Riari: the distances aren't obviously that, its just a quick example
15:16 Riari: aka a non-dash wiggle that hypers into a dash wiggle of sorts
15:17 Riari: also on the very last point he made, I'd swap 03:17:003 (1,2,3) - around to fit like 03:16:297 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ,emphasise the pitch change in the vocals for 03:17:356 (1,2,3) - to be reversed only
15:17 Riari: its too much effort to post but there you go I guess
15:18 JBHyperion: just /savelog this and post lol
15:18 JBHyperion: takes like 30 seconds xD
15:18 Riari: my wording seems a bit strong but ok
15:08 Riari: the distance increase from 01:43:120 (5,6) - is sudden, i'd change it to make it thinner. I'd even remove the hypers because the emphasis on 01:44:531 (1) - is reduced in comparison to the screenjumps
15:10 Riari: 01:49:825 (2,3,4,5) - is fine, the only problem with it is the reverse flow comming from 01:49:296 (1) - into 01:49:825 (2) - that even causes a problem for this
15:12 JBHyperion: 01:43:120 (5,6) - can't be much smaller whilst still maintaining a hyper - the vocal sounds are much stronger here than on the previous slider heads
15:12 Riari: 02:02:885 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - is a mess in my opinion, 02:03:414 (4,5) - is the only hyper that should be present, a smaller pattern of 02:02:885 (1,2,3,4) - that has distance increased for 02:03:591 (5,6,7,8) - would work perfectly but it just plays like a mess.
15:13 JBHyperion: I actually find 01:49:120 (3,1,2) - less awkward with the antiflow, I find it easier to overshoot (2) with a more "natural" flow fsr
15:14 JBHyperion: and afaik that last section is being remade
15:14 JBHyperion: speaking to Kuro about it now
15:15 Riari: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4071273 quick example of what I meant
15:15 Riari: the distances aren't obviously that, its just a quick example
15:16 Riari: aka a non-dash wiggle that hypers into a dash wiggle of sorts
15:17 Riari: also on the very last point he made, I'd swap 03:17:003 (1,2,3) - around to fit like 03:16:297 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ,emphasise the pitch change in the vocals for 03:17:356 (1,2,3) - to be reversed only
15:17 Riari: its too much effort to post but there you go I guess
15:18 JBHyperion: just /savelog this and post lol
15:18 JBHyperion: takes like 30 seconds xD
15:18 Riari: my wording seems a bit strong but ok
If anything doesn't make sense then just PM me ingame I guess.
Topic Starter
fixed as much as I can.
Thank you Kuro, JBH and Riari.
Thank you Kuro, JBH and Riari.
Just to make the changes clear enough.
We discussed and made the following changes in the Storyboard:
We discussed and made the following changes in the Storyboard:
- Moved white.png and k.png back to the .osb with changing the first one to Background
- Changed the fade of white.png from 1x to 0.9x to make less prominent and sudden for a few ms
- 01:43:826 (1,2,3) - Changed by moving (1) and (3) closer to (2) which not destroys the pattern, just makes it a bit easier. Same at 03:17:003 (1,2,3) -
- 02:02:885 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Changed to make the buildup more obvious (was not my idea :<)
Let's try again 
Bubbled~
Also pls upload to Pending lol
Bubbled~
Also pls upload to Pending lol
WTF Go Go~~
let this go
Finally! I love the song I'm working on which is done by someone else is qualified!
Despite the storyboard is thematic yet not featuring Aaya or Kiiko in the OVA, I hope this to be ranked before Christmas or New Year's Eve!
Good Luck, Equim!
Despite the storyboard is thematic yet not featuring Aaya or Kiiko in the OVA, I hope this to be ranked before Christmas or New Year's Eve!
Good Luck, Equim!
We'll need to polish that Storyboard a bit more before letting this get ranked:
[SB]
The main issue I see are some of the image transitions that happens a few ms earlier than they should be:
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I hope I didn't miss any of them. If you need any help, don't hesitate contacting me!
[SB]
The main issue I see are some of the image transitions that happens a few ms earlier than they should be:
- 00:02:885 - "a (8)" appears way too early. You have to make it appear at 2885 and not a few ms ahead, or you'll see something like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4109403
- 01:27:591 - This one is one of the most obvious. The previous image starts dissapearing at about 01:27:326 - , when it should happen at 01:27:591 - . 200 ms is a great difference, noticeable enough to make your SB not that nice. The transition should happen at 01:27:591 - along with the beginning of the kiai (also totally unrelated touhou picture lol).
- 01:44:532 - Same with this picture. Try to make the transition at the exact point where the new stanza starts. It looks much more better when the pulse you placed matches with the image transition.
- 03:17:708 - On the other hand, this transition happens way too many ms late ._.
- 03:37:473 - This one also happens quite late than it should be.
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I hope I didn't miss any of them. If you need any help, don't hesitate contacting me!
"How to rank a map." By Equim.
Oh, sorry, wrong tutorial. Ok, bye.
Oh, sorry, wrong tutorial. Ok, bye.
sighs deeply
Equim/Kanari can address whatever needs to be adjusted - call me back (again) when you're ready.
Equim/Kanari can address whatever needs to be adjusted - call me back (again) when you're ready.
Sry guys. That was my mistake. q.q Feel free to punish me. /o/
Please it's no more your fault than it is ours, we missed it too xDKurokami wrote:
Sry guys. That was my mistake. q.q Feel free to punish me. /o/
Equim, I know you're probably getting fed up with this, but please keep at it, we're almost there!