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MrSergio wrote:

Fiery:
- 00:49:967 (3,4) - wow, such small and contorted jump. Suggestion spaced out more for emphasis, applied to other kiai
- 00:53:108 (5) - what do you think about deleting this beat? You followed quite well the song's rhythm till now and this overmap is a bit an eyesore tbh there's a beat here tho on the synth which i'd like to keep here
- 01:00:334 (4) - I'll point this out just here and once, but every similar pattern nearby seems to suffer from this: the angle formed between 01:00:177 (3,4,5) - literally creates no proper emphasis on any of the beats I highlighted here. Try something like this and you'll notice the difference honestly i think the pattern currently is fine but applied
- 01:04:103 (2) - stack under 1 instead of 3? The strong beats happen on white ticks here, but you put the jump (emphasis) on a red tick.... duh this 1 i feel is good as it is though, having a note underneath a long slider is kind of weird playability-wise
- 01:16:826 (5,1,2,3,4,5) - Maybe it is better if I don't argue with aesthetics right now... trust me my aesthetics five months ago dont make sense to me either, tried making this prettier
- 01:23:108 (1) - these 1,2 combos are not even used as the original meaning they earned in the past year ROFL. This sort of pattern (I'm referring to 1,2 combos) it is usually used for vocal build-ups in pre-kiai times, or either the end of the kiai itself, not the introduction to a break time LOL. I'd rather have that NC removed was for the spacing increase which i thought warranted it but sure
- 02:15:726 (6,7) - feels strange to not have the whole 5 notes of the stream mapped tho :/ On stuff like 02:20:124 (2,3,4) - it doesn't matter since you're still holding down a button so it feels like you're still tapping on the stream honestly i don't really feel like this is a 5 note stream lol idk why the top diffs do it, the synth is more noticeable as a triplet
- 02:20:752 (6,7) - same ^ but I have also a suggestion see above
- 02:32:375 (5) - same as before, deleting it would make the map more clean see above response to same thing d
- 02:35:360 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - take all of them, make pairs (2+3, 4+5, 6+7) and Ctrl + g all of them: that's probably what you were aiming at when creating this whole section, right? Ah, 02:36:302 (1,2,3) - if you do that this part might need to be fixed flow-wise honestly wasn't that hard of a fix i just stacked the more intense notes, easier for playability + aesthetically clean so
- 02:38:344 (6,7) - as mentioned earlier, somewhere above, using less spacing between them makes up for a better expression of the song fixed both of these
- 02:39:601 (1) - why NC? .-. Also, the flow is a bit meh too, since the angle is too wide (explained above) fixed along with the other one also i blame bd for this lo
- 02:45:098 (1,2) - how come this same rhythm is different than 02:42:585 (1) - ? In general, that long slider breaks up all the movement. We're not even in a calm part, it's the outro of the kiai lol. There are a lot of beats in the middle to be used. (if you reply me with "style" I have to point out how this style doesn't really work considered the rhythm of the song) nah, it's not style, i followed the synth during that portion of the end kiai because the synth is a lot more potent there compared to the drums; the section after has the drums over the synth. while i agree there's beats in the middle, for an insane i don't think it's necessary to map them since the synth is so strong here
- 02:46:198 (6,2) - well, not really big deal, but this sort of stuff was a bit everywhere and I guess I can tell you: it doesn't look so great to have them touch like that. If you care about aesthetics, that is this would basically require an entire remap from the ground up if i were to fix all of these, and this one is pretty minor so yea
hope most of my denial reasons made sense, thanks for mod!

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Tags:ryu jubeat plus android reflec beat ポップンリズミン grumd kyshiro doyak tarrasky mkguh leader fieryrage snownino_ silverboxer
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posted

MrSergio wrote:

recheck

Doyak:
- 00:31:276 (2,3) - 1/2 repeat slider + circle would have fit better rhythm-wise imo I guess you consider the last beat pretty strong, and it actually is, but it rather creates a bit awkward polarity issue, and lose emphasis on 00:32:218 (1,2,3) - these three clicks. The first part is relatively much calmer so I'd prefer keeping simple rhythms to not give players too much of rhythm-wise intensity.
- 01:55:150 (4) - idk.. there is a strong beat on the slider tail here, plus it doesn't seem like the same rhythm in the song used for 01:53:580 (1,2) - , so I'd use something else, like circles or a longer slider (circles are better) Even though I put a whistle every 2 beats constantly, I don't think that sound is particularly strong or anything. It doesn't even have a pitch transition, so idk what made you think it's stronger than others. For the alternatives you suggested: longer slider? if you mean using a 1/1 slider on 01:55:150 - , I don't see how it can emphasize the slider tail sound better. Circles? There's no reason for this part to have such an intense click actions, and it lacks differentiation between 01:54:836 (3,4) - this 1/2 part and 01:55:779 (5) - this 1/1 part.
Thanks for the mod!
posted
@Silverboxer

01:02:689 (3) - I second this with MrSergio. A multiple reverse is pretty much not expected since you've never introduced this before, and 00:55:779 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 01:00:805 (1,2,3,4) - all these have repeated same consecutive 1/2 sliders so it's very hard to expect something like this. Furthermore, more than half of the reverse arrow is hidden behind (2) so players will just struggle to read that one stuff.

02:02:376 (1,2,3,4,5) - Considering what you've said about 01:07:088 (1,2,3,4,5) - , I don't think this is strong enough to be clicked all individually. "does it matter how many in a row it is?" Yes it is, because consecutive clicks stress players out quickly. Consecutive clicks mean that they require more action and therefore it should be considered to be more intense. Also, you said "I think 4 circles is ok" but more importantly, it's 5 clicks.

I would also suggest increasing the AR to 7, and that'll make the confusing overlaps easier to read. As you did say, the difficult things are for transition from my Normal to that 'hard' Hard, and with this high bpm, AR7 would suit better I think.
posted

MrSergio wrote:

Nino:
- 00:37:245 (3,4) - this jump should have been way bigger than 00:36:930 (1,2) - , yet you have that cramped part :roll: )just check how 00:41:957 (1,2,3) - flows way better)
- 01:45:098 - 01:56:093 - there's barely any difference from the rest of the map, while this part is the calmer of the song. Expression of the song is kinda poor here
- 01:56:093 - 02:06:145 - isn't this a build-up? It's the same problem as above ^ Ah, since you might obviously say I'm just making up things I'll let you check stuff like 02:16:198 (1,2,3,4) - which is in the kiai time. As you can see jumps are pretty much identical, yet the song plays way differnetly
- 02:40:700 (1,2) - why not placing 1 at the top and 2 at the bottom as you did with any other similar pattern like this? mainly for symmetry structure here
0 generally speaking, this map is "still". The spacing is not representing the song as I would expect. Maybe you don't like small details, but I ddidn't point out those small details at all. Take the 2 points I made above and compare your map with Blue Dragon's or Kyshiro's or grumd's. Maybe those diffs don't have small spacing details, but at least they emphasize each part with proper spacing (for kiai time it's really noticeable too, as well as the last part)
@MrSergio : remapped 01:46:040 - and same 00:23:108 - , might want to take a look again xd, i know i did pretty bad at that part b4 lol
thx for mod :)
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posted

MrSergio wrote:

Tarrasky:
- 00:22:480 (2,3) - what do you think about a ctrl + g here to create a nice drop on 00:23:108 (1) - ? fix
- 00:23:108 (1,2,3,4,5) - umg... well... I won't go too deep in this, but it kinda feels "just because". Just an example of what you could make with a little more structure in it fix
- 00:27:506 (3,4) - this is a Light Insane... right? I was expecting a bit more of tolerance towards intense rhythms, above all in the calm parts like this. Example of a rhythm more Light Insane-ish i'll ignore some songs if i do that, like 00:27:663 -
- 00:35:360 (4,1,2,3,4,5) - duh, this flow is so cramped and forced. I have an example but that whole section is just too hard to fix right now since you even ignored the strong beat at 00:36:302 - and there's some other flow stuff going on, like 00:35:360 (4,1) - and 00:36:459 (6,7,8) - making the flow too rigid fix (not exactly you have done on example but i think the flow looks good now)
- 00:37:402 - rip strong beat. As I said, we're playing a Light Insane, I'm expecting to at least hit the most easy to hear notes in the music (which in this case is the high pitched sound). A more Light Insane-ish example fix
- 00:41:957 (1,2,3,4) - again, you keep kicking in with intense rhythms on calm parts. This is not an Extra, this is not Blue Dragon's diff, this is a Light Insane...
Example of something that won't traumatize players so much (it's simply an example, the longer slider creates an ugly overlap with the next object son don't copy that) fix, i done emphasis in the strong beat but i dont remove 00:42:585 (3,4) - , dont think is necessary, and this isn't intensity in any way the song, look the spacing, look the flow, this is obviously much softer than the intense pattern, like the kiai, respecting the intensity of the song in this moment
- 00:55:150 (3,4) - first time seeing a 3/4 slider + <insert object> pattern where the second object is perfectly stacked on the tail fix, but have a lot if you see all the map :/
- 00:55:779 (1,2,3,4) - aesthetically, 1 makes no sense in that combo, so why is it like that? .-. because, like in all map, i respect the 4/1 NC sequence, and i'll not break all the consistency just because one slider, i think looks good like this
- 01:04:260 (4) - ctrl + g for better flow? fix
- 01:11:800 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - if I follow what you wanted to do here... I should be expecting 5 to be upwards... right ? fix
- 01:10:857 (1,2,3) - I'm missing the reasoning behind this pattern too now that I look again... Why are they angled like that?
- 01:13:056 (6) - either a circle or a 1/1 slider, because there is a longer sound than just 1/2 there I can clearly hear a song here 01:13:213 -
- 01:21:224 (3,4,5) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6882549 Violet is your current pattern, while the light blue objects are the duplicated and rotated version of 01:21:224 (3,4) - . Maybe it is nothing for you, but these small details really do make a difference if you pile them up across the all diff, so please... fix
- 01:46:669 (2) - again small details, but this looks 5 times less random than a straight + curved slider pair\ fix
- 02:15:412 (5) - the strong beat is on the tail =w=" fix
- basically this kiai time will most likely have all the same issues I already pointed out so let's leave it at that
- 02:21:538 (2) - strong beat is on the tail fix
- 02:16:198 (1,2,3,4) - go look for what I suggested for 00:37:402 - fix
- 02:33:318 (4) - instead of this note, which is not in the song, why not using a 3/4 slider for 02:33:161 (3) - and create a less stressing rhythm? ._. fix
- 02:50:124 (1,2) - just one big slider works way better why? you can't hear the violoncelle?
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MrSergio wrote:

Kyshiro:
- 00:37:559 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - ignoring the high pitched sound brings down a bit the overall song expression but oh well... I guess it's late to change this now. It just doesn't make sense when you followed that sound with every nearby pattern tho. (00:41:957 (1,2,1,1) - reference) A stream here feels most fitting here imo
- 00:57:035 (1,2,3,4) - probably just personal, but I was expecting more movement seeing how the song evolves. Dumb example Did something similar
- 01:04:889 (3) - ctrl + g? It looks like a better flow to me Sure
- 01:51:538 (1) - I wonder what's the difference between this and 01:49:025 (4) - 01:46:512 (4) - 01:54:051 (4) - :roll:I don't get it lol
- 02:18:711 (1,2) - probably not so noticeable, but this part feels less "jumpy" than 02:19:339 (4,5,6,7) - for example, even if they are the same. Suggestion Fixed
Sorry for never ever replying, I've been inactive as hell + moving to another house(again damnit)

http://kshro.s-ul.eu/y7ffxH2l.txt
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MrSergio wrote:

Bluedragon:
- 00:54:993 (4) - maybe unstack this. The stack creates a strange stop in the flow, which doesn't happen on similar stuff like 01:00:019 (4) - for example done
- 02:26:878 (4,5,6,7) - not so sure about using this shape when 02:27:192 (6,7) - have clearly stronger emphasis in the song fixed
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@Kyshiro
01:51:538 (1) - I was referring to the NC lol. You don't have it in the other spots I linked

@Nino
Much better. I'm satisfied now

@fiery
your diff is still suffering some planning.
- Take the first kiai and compare the jumps to the part before the kiai, which is the intro. Spacings are literally the same, although the song has 2 different emphasis there. It's the same problem Nino's diff had before the fix he applied.
- What I suggested for 01:00:334 (4) - was supposed to be done for every similar pattern tho. 00:59:077 (6,7,1) - take this one and see how it doesn't flow at all the same way.
- 01:54:836 (1,2,3,4) - again big spacings, even tho it is a calm part. The problem is not the jump itself there, but the fact that it is the same sort of jump used in the kiai times, where the song is waaaaay more energetic. Compare it with 02:14:941 (1,2) - and see for yourself.
- 02:18:239 (6) - heh, flow is a bit meh. It needs the same sort of fix used for 01:00:334 (4) -

What I'm referring at is not the "amount of spacing" you use for your jumps in those calm sections (well, actually it is also part of the problem, but not the main reason), but about "quality of spacing" which depends on the patterns used. Take a look at grumd's diff or even Nino's, since he fixed well enough now, and try to do something similar.

@Tarrasky
better here too. I could still pinpoint some little things but I didn't get the same feeling as last time I saw the map so it's surely a good progress.

@Silver
I asked Oko about this stuff and apparently newbie players can't handle anti-jumps well enough. They usually click earlier since they can't follow the approach circle yet.
Now, this is not a Normal, nor an Easy, so maybe that fact slightly changes. Regardless of that tho, I find anti-jumps to not be a suitable technique for diffs lower than Hard. Overall I also still believe it requires too reading to play this diff well enough for this level.

Ah, I never said that Leader's Hard is actually a Hard. His diff is more like a Hard+ , as well as you diff, which is surely harder than a normal Advanced
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I stand by my point that 5 clicks in a row is not too much for only one or two really strong patterns in the song. I get the point that more clicks in a row gets harder, but I don't think 5 is much of a stretch, especially if it fits the music the best in my opinion. But I will change the reverse slider like you and MrSergio said and I will change AR to 7 whenever I get on a computer. Thanks Doyak.
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MrSergio wrote:

@fiery
your diff is still suffering some planning.
- Take the first kiai and compare the jumps to the part before the kiai, which is the intro. Spacings are literally the same, although the song has 2 different emphasis there. It's the same problem Nino's diff had before the fix he applied. remapped intro entirely (luckily i had already remapped this far for it lo)
- What I suggested for 01:00:334 (4) - was supposed to be done for every similar pattern tho. 00:59:077 (6,7,1) - take this one and see how it doesn't flow at all the same way. relooked through the entire map and fixed all these instances (as far as i know, at least)
- 01:54:836 (1,2,3,4) - again big spacings, even tho it is a calm part. The problem is not the jump itself there, but the fact that it is the same sort of jump used in the kiai times, where the song is waaaaay more energetic. Compare it with 02:14:941 (1,2) - and see for yourself. honestly i like this sort of emphasis during the calm part, so idk. it doesn't interfere with playability too much anyways; let's see how the remapped intro and parts of the kiai work first though, might make this less apparent
- 02:18:239 (6) - heh, flow is a bit meh. It needs the same sort of fix used for 01:00:334 (4) - fixed alongside everything else

What I'm referring at is not the "amount of spacing" you use for your jumps in those calm sections (well, actually it is also part of the problem, but not the main reason), but about "quality of spacing" which depends on the patterns used. Take a look at grumd's diff or even Nino's, since he fixed well enough now, and try to do something similar. relooked again, adjusted as needed (which was mainly the intro afaik? and since that's remapped now yea)
alright hopefully this version's at least a bit better with some of the remapped patterns, worse comes to worse i'll try remapping the kiai to give more emphasis to it

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posted

MrSergio wrote:

grumd:
- 02:33:161 (5,6) - I still wonder why making this. I even testplayed it and it doesn't play well at all lol. Look
Making it similar to 00:53:894 (4,5) - works just fine and it changes nothing if not some pixels, yet you still want to throw away reading in that point. Why? .-.
First of all, thanks for taking your time to check the mapset. We appeciate you modding our work.

Actually I always thought that pattern wasn't hard to read or play, but your replay file proved me the opposite. I can feel how frustrating it is to not see properly where to click and miss that slider because of it. I've changed this pattern to make the slider-start more visible.

http://pastebin.com/raw/292nkJRc
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@Silver
00:32:218 (1,1) - is it not good at all?
00:29:391 (1) - I might as well point out some minor stuff. This one for example feels a bit random, something like "I need to match the DS perfectly so I'll bend this even tho it doesn't look nice". There is actually no rule regarding "DS must be constant on lower diffs" so you can easily ignore it a bit if you have a long enough break (usually a 1/1)
01:22:166 (1,2,3,4) - again minor, but I don't think this sort of rhythm is so similar to 00:57:035 (1,2,3,4) - tho. It's a calmer part and you use the same pattern you used for an intense part. Are these parts equal in some way I can't realize?
02:02:376 (1,2,3,4) - I can agree on the fact that such pattern "may" fit with an intense rhythm such as the one proposed in the kiai time, but again, is this part similar to the one in kiai time?
02:21:224 (1,2,3,4) - you could have used the "stream" pattern here instead, and avoid the misleading anti-jump

@fiery
I guess it is my fault here for not saying exactly what was to be done, heh...
The problem is not the kiai and it's perfectly fine as it is for an Insane difficulty. What's not fine instead is how 00:23:580 (2,3) - this jump is equal (considering also SV multiplier) to 00:33:789 (5,6) - .
The easiest fix I told you the other day too was to simply reduce spacing for 00:22:166 - 00:33:161 - and 01:45:098 - 01:56:093 - . They are just 2 sections of 11 secs each where you simply need to tone down spacing in an easy-to-recognize way telling the player "hey, the emphasis here is totally different than when you played <this> part in the kiai time"
Since those parts are kinda "increasing" in intensity over time feel free to gently increase spacing too, but don't make it perfectly identical to kiai time, please.
Also, what happened with 01:49:810 (1,1) - ? NC-wise

Maybe I'm being a pain in the ass here regarding these things, but song expression is the only thing I can't ignore.
I can overlook not-so-clean aesthetics, I can overlook some little mash-ups with structure, I can even ignore some dumb 1,2 combos sometimes, but ignoring what the song dictates goes against the first and probably only rule I have about mapping: the song commands.
If you ignore the song, what is the player going to play? Circles spammed on the screen? Well, while I do agree it may be fun for someone, I can't bring myself to consider such content as "official" of the game.
It moreover shows that you din't even listen to the song and therefore every song would be the same in that regard, which then would make no sense to map since "it's the same as any other song", right? Obviously not referring to the huge amount of identical animu TV size out there AT ALL (/s)

Well, maybe adding this last paragraph wasn't necessary at all, but I wanted to actually make clear why I am being so concerned about these things.
This was also the main reason why I didn't want to icon the mapset in the first place but now that things seem to be improving (and we're almost there too) I'd like to see it through already.
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MrSergio wrote:

@fiery
I guess it is my fault here for not saying exactly what was to be done, heh...
The problem is not the kiai and it's perfectly fine as it is for an Insane difficulty. What's not fine instead is how 00:23:580 (2,3) - this jump is equal (considering also SV multiplier) to 00:33:789 (5,6) - . ah, okay, i get what you mean now, reduced spacing all across the board for before-kiai sections and emphasized some more stuff during kiai so hopefully that fixes this issue for the most part now -- the only part i'm kind of iffy about rn is 00:25:936 (2,3,4) - and stacking the way i stacked, i feel like it gives emphasis to the synth like i intended it to originally but then the slider is pretty unemphasized, so idk
The easiest fix I told you the other day too was to simply reduce spacing for 00:22:166 - 00:33:161 - and 01:45:098 - 01:56:093 - . They are just 2 sections of 11 secs each where you simply need to tone down spacing in an easy-to-recognize way telling the player "hey, the emphasis here is totally different than when you played <this> part in the kiai time" done, i kept some high spacing parts to emphasize certian parts of the synth which should be ok(?) let me know if it isn't lol
Since those parts are kinda "increasing" in intensity over time feel free to gently increase spacing too, but don't make it perfectly identical to kiai time, please.
Also, what happened with 01:49:810 (1,1) - ? NC-wise i have no idea how this keeps happening lmao

Maybe I'm being a pain in the ass here regarding these things, but song expression is the only thing I can't ignore.
I can overlook not-so-clean aesthetics, I can overlook some little mash-ups with structure, I can even ignore some dumb 1,2 combos sometimes, but ignoring what the song dictates goes against the first and probably only rule I have about mapping: the song commands.
If you ignore the song, what is the player going to play? Circles spammed on the screen? Well, while I do agree it may be fun for someone, I can't bring myself to consider such content as "official" of the game.
It moreover shows that you din't even listen to the song and therefore every song would be the same in that regard, which then would make no sense to map since "it's the same as any other song", right? Obviously not referring to the huge amount of identical animu TV size out there AT ALL (/s) nah i don't blame you, i'm sick of the same generic stuff over and over again, which is what i had in mind mapping this to begin with 5 months ago; as a player it sucks especially because basically every single map nowadays is the same "5 star map then let's add 6/7 star jumps out of nowhere" instead of a consistent difficulty that reasons with the intensity of the music. hopefully now that i actually have grown as a mapper since then the spacing i gave now makes more sense musically since i scrutinized basically every pattern lol

Well, maybe adding this last paragraph wasn't necessary at all, but I wanted to actually make clear why I am being so concerned about these things.
This was also the main reason why I didn't want to icon the mapset in the first place but now that things seem to be improving (and we're almost there too) I'd like to see it through already.
to be honest I can't thank you enough for taking the time to look at this, I'm honestly grateful for you not getting tired of modding the same diff over and over again and putting up with all my changes lmao

once I applied the changes I relooked at combos to ensure they're properly placed because apparently that's an issue, hopefully no more of that now

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MrSergio wrote:

@Silver
00:32:218 (1,1) - is it not good at all? did something slightly different
00:29:391 (1) - I might as well point out some minor stuff. This one for example feels a bit random, something like "I need to match the DS perfectly so I'll bend this even tho it doesn't look nice". There is actually no rule regarding "DS must be constant on lower diffs" so you can easily ignore it a bit if you have a long enough break (usually a 1/1) changed it so pattern makes sense
01:22:166 (1,2,3,4) - again minor, but I don't think this sort of rhythm is so similar to 00:57:035 (1,2,3,4) - tho. It's a calmer part and you use the same pattern you used for an intense part. Are these parts equal in some way I can't realize? both patterns are a lot of the same 1/2 sliders in a row and I think it's fitting to use the same placement instead of making them spaced out like the normal patterns. The parts aren't equal in intensity but they are both sequences of 1/2 sliders in a row, for the kiai it is 8 in a row and I think it is too much movement if they are all spaced out. For the calmer section, it is only 4 in a row but I still keep the sliders close because I don't want much movement here either
02:02:376 (1,2,3,4) - I can agree on the fact that such pattern "may" fit with an intense rhythm such as the one proposed in the kiai time, but again, is this part similar to the one in kiai time? it is not the same beat being played but it is still 4 strong notes in a row, so yes it is similar
02:21:224 (1,2,3,4) - you could have used the "stream" pattern here instead, and avoid the misleading anti-jump fixed it
thanks again for the mods MrSergio
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Leader got back at the same time I was fixing his diff, he said he'll take a look at what I did and check if everything's fine

MrSergio wrote:

Leader:
- 00:56:093 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - is there a way to make this part easier? It feels like a bomb right now i believe this fits well with the song while keeping the "hard+" theme, the spike isn't actually that big as the stacks help for the reading and singletapping 191bpm 1/2 should be alright for most players at this range. back-and-forths are also more than playable tbh. maybe it could be discussed that you can make it shorter by 2 notes and add another slider at the end, but i feel like this would ruin mapper's intention
- 01:17:297 - a stacked beat would work well to keep the rhythm. That break is a bit hard to handle imo, above all after the huge jump on 01:16:512 (3,4) - done
- 01:19:967 (2,3) - something similar to what you did for 01:19:025 (4,1) - would work better imo done
- 01:22:166 (1,1) - because making the spinner end play that finish was too meta :^) probably felt like the beat had to be clicked
- 01:52:166 - stacked beat again may help with rhythm, since there's a new part starting from there. Go check 01:58:606 (1,2,3,4) - lol i feel like it'd be a bit too... idk, rhythm-intensive, it makes this specific section stay less undermapped than the others. aside from that, if reading is the problem, i feel like the NCs and positioning here help enough
- 02:21:852 (3,4) - umh... it feels a bit too heavy for this diff to map like that on a calm part. Just one big slider is not good? :/ done
- 02:36:302 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - again with this intense part lol. Maybe you can make it a bit easier here too tried to make this one easier to read, at least
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i think i actually gave an outdated diff without some spacing changes i added shte gimme a second nvm im stupid lolz
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ok i guess everything is ready
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Ok, so... I've been away in the past couple of days so I couldn't check.
Now I'm also having some troubles with the pc so it might take a while to restore all my data (I'm literally formatting because of people messing up with it, geez)

I'll try to be back as soon as possible, sorry for the inconvinience
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Artist: 青龍
Romanised Artist: Seiryu

i think you need to change that xD


and yeah RANK IT!!
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- myRumble - wrote:

Artist: 青龍
Romanised Artist: Seiryu
Yes, definitely ^ (this resets bubble count too btw)

@fiery
Well... idk... it looks like you changed like... 00:23:580 (2,3) - this jump in the first section and 01:46:512 (2,3) - this jump in the other section I pointed out last time.
What I meant was a general thing for the sections, not just that jump in particular :/

For example, there is a strange thing even within the same section, which is a bit... "strange"
00:24:679 (2,3,4,5,6) - compare this spacing with 00:29:391 (1,2,3,4) - .
The second time the same rhythm shows up ^ the pitch of the notes is higher and it is noticeable. Using this information it makes no sense that 00:29:391 (1,2,3,4) - the higher pitched rhythm is mapped with less spacing than the one with a graver pitch 00:24:993 (3,4,5,6) -

I saw you changed the jump I mentioned earlier, 00:23:580 (2,3) - , and shortened it, but then... why is 00:24:208 (4,1) - big as before?
Same applied to the other section I pointed out earlier.


Again, with this recheck I'm not going to point out which pattern is too big or not, since you should be the one deciding that (the map is yours after all).
What I'm simply asking for is a "rule" that tells me visually what the song is playing.
If you put music to 0% can you recognize which is the kiai part and which isn't in gameplay on that map? (I personally can't :/)
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