Seiryu - BLUE DRAGON · forum

Tarrasky

Joined March 2014

Tarrasky 2016-11-04T13:43:03+00:00

Bonsai wrote:
Ayy, couldn't do the whole set in one sitting bc I still gotta rest my hands, but here is the first almost-half \:D/

Light Insane
00:28:135 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I suggest slowly increasing the spacing of these objects, the song's intensity is significantly increasing and at first it seemed like your map is doing that too as you started using more circled than sliders, but then it went back to even reverse-sliders so that felt weird to me
00:33:475 (4,7) - autostacking at its finest lol (makes 00:33:318 (2,3,4) uneven) I'm not sure if i have stacked in other mods but is already stack here
00:36:459 (6,7,8) and 00:38:972 (6,7,8) - Why are only those two stacked? It would make sense to me if you spaced all of the 1/4s out in this section, and then (as you already did) only stack in the next section in order to differentiate between sections, but those two stacks break that concept
I actually recommend doing that for 02:12:428 too, especially the very first triplet there being stacked feels really underwhelming, after a very quiet build-up the music suddenly goes berserk, but the player barely moves at all, that feels off
And if you don't wanna use that concept, then I'd like to suggest not stacking the 5-note-streams as this is the first diff that uses more than 1/4-doublets, so I feel like the streams could be made easier to smoothen the spread in this aspect
00:41:957 (1,2) - This looks extremely uneven visually, nobody cares about the exact DS here so I recommend simply moving (2) a bit more upwards to make the spacing between the sliderbodies
Also, differentiation between 00:41:957 (1,2,3,4) would be nice as (1,2) are mapped to melody-notes but (3,4) are just filler-notes, but currently (4) actually gets the most emphasis here so that seems wrong
Maybe also more emphasis for 00:43:213 (1)
01:07:088 (1,2,3,4) - This seems really uneven visually too, (1,2) are so far apart but (2,4) so close, I'd suggest smth like this
01:13:370 (1) - 01:18:396 (1) - I can see why you decreased spacing in this section, but I'd still emphasize these two notes more as they've got Finishes and all that stuff, feems really underwhelming to play
Actually I don't really see why the spacing of the 1/2-circle-triplets increases, 01:15:883 (1,2) are way deeper and less present in the song than the others, and at 01:20:910 (1,2,3,4,5) the kicks in the music stop completely so increasing intensity there seems weird too
01:46:040 - Finally someone who undermaps this section accordingly to its intensity, thank you <3
01:49:810 (3,1) - Again the visual thing, imo spacing it like this would be completely justified and look much better
also why is 01:54:836 (3,1) spaced so low, like the upcoming 1/2s?
02:06:145 (1) - This sound actually ends one 1/8 earlier
02:09:993 (1) - Suggesting to silence the spinner-end bc there's no active beat there in the song, just a passive ending
02:13:684 (1,2,3,4) - This plays really underwhelming considering slider-leniency, the player is basically just moving from head to head which is not very much compared to the rest of the section
02:24:365 (3,4,5) and 02:29:391 (3,4,5) - Feels weird to play too since it never occurred anywhere else in the map, would suggest to map those with a few triplets for variety instead, like you did at 00:43:213 -
02:49:182 (2,3) - tbh I'm not a big fan of suddenly stacking 1/2s under slidertail, can't recall any other place where you did that and it might be confusing after those were always 1/4-stacks in the previous section; It doesn't give (3) the emphasis it deserves anyways imo

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All fix ^.^
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Seijiro

osu! Alumni

3,438 posts

Joined April 2013

Seijiro 2016-11-04T17:06:45+00:00

Blue Dragon:
- 02:16:512 (3) - rip strong beat. I saw you kept overmapping these sorts of parts, like 00:37:559 (5) - .
It's the hardest diff so even that wouldn't be much of a deal, but it is still strange considering you respect emphasis perfectly on everything. And yea, 02:21:224 (1,2) - this works better than the other one I mentioned, even tho it's similar
- 02:52:323 (6) - little suggestion: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6488497

Kyshiro's Extra:
- 00:37:559 - I guess this was a common ground for overmapping, duh
- 00:50:595 (6) - same as 00:46:826 (5) - ?

grumd's Extra:
- 01:08:657 (4) - missing clap?
- 02:33:160 (5,6) - is this even readable? Idk, I'd rather change it
- 02:34:417 (5,6) - same

NiNo:
- 01:02:690 (3) - what's this shape even...
- 01:21:381 (3,4,5) - nope, this rhythm is too misleading imo and should be changed to something more intuitive
- 01:23:737 - is there any need for the break effect?
- this is just personal, but the anime mapping style doesn't fit well on this type of song. Structure overall is a bit weak in general, but heh...

Fiery:
- 00:25:622 (1,2,1,2) - why so many NCs here and not 00:23:108 (1,2,3,4,5) - here? (less NCs are better). There are similar patterns onwards so check them out too
- 00:56:407 (1,1) - no need for so many NCs, the pattern is already readable enough
- 01:00:805 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - structure here is a bit lacking, or maybe the whole map is like this... idk
- 01:23:108 (1) - NC not needed
- 01:52:323 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - again, structure is a bit lacking
- what I said above applies to also the copy-pasted kiai times
- again, for this diff too structure is a bit too relaxed and in "TV-size/anime" style. Try to give more meaning to patterns overall please

I'll leave the rest of the diffs for later once all of you reply to Bonsai

btw, Bonsai, the missing claps every now and then are intentional and I noticed that while modding, especially on grumd's diff. I think they left it like that to leave the music's bass/kick play there.

Bonsai

1,212 posts

Joined July 2011

Bonsai 2016-11-04T18:27:33+00:00

Seijiro

osu! Alumni

3,438 posts

Joined April 2013

Seijiro 2016-11-04T18:48:51+00:00

Bonsai wrote:

ROFL

Mismagius

9,237 posts

Joined July 2008

Topic Starter

Mismagius 2016-11-04T22:11:40+00:00

MrSergio wrote:
Blue Dragon:
- 02:16:512 (3) - rip strong beat. i feel like the intensity in the song is pretty constant here (strong beats yeah, but pitch is also giving some information as well).

I saw you kept overmapping these sorts of parts, like 00:37:559 (5) - . this one is a bigger problem and i'm fixing it, definitely not consistent with the rest
It's the hardest diff so even that wouldn't be much of a deal, but it is still strange considering you respect emphasis perfectly on everything. And yea, 02:21:224 (1,2) - this works better than the other one I mentioned, even tho it's similar i think going with 2 sliders doesn't feel any bad at all, especially since the song's rhythm goes 'down' at this point
- 02:52:323 (6) - little suggestion: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6488497 rip my 969 max combo

04/11/2016 20:10
DIFFS UPDATED:
Tarrasky's Light Insane (bonsai's mod)
Blue Dragon (sergio's mod)

grumd

1,790 posts

Joined October 2010

grumd 2016-11-04T22:18:23+00:00

MrSergio wrote:
Blue Dragon:
grumd's Extra:
- 01:08:657 (4) - missing clap?
yeah indeed missing a clap here
- 02:33:160 (5,6) - is this even readable? Idk, I'd rather change it
clearly readable since transparent sliders are a default. show me a player who can fullscreen jump this map but who can't read this simple stuff. surely this is not a common pattern, but i'm not going to make this map as easy in terms of reading as a Normal diff. sometimes you need to be able to read unusual patterns especially if it's a hard map.
- 02:34:417 (5,6) - same

If possible I'd ask BD to add a clap at 01:08:657 (4) - for me, I don't want to upload .osu file for that simple change

fieryrage

osu! Champion / Elite Nominator II

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Joined November 2013

fieryrage 2016-11-05T04:42:46+00:00

looking back on the diff and i realized how much i actually hate the kiai time in this so im remapping the kiais which will hopefully fix most of the pattern/structure issues listed there, serg

ty for mod

SnowNiNo_

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

2,106 posts

Joined April 2013

SnowNiNo_ 2016-11-05T16:00:44+00:00

fixed all, thx for mod :3

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Mismagius

9,237 posts

Joined July 2008

Topic Starter

Mismagius 2016-11-05T20:04:54+00:00

updated:
mk's easy
Tarrasky's Light Insane
nino's insane
grumd's extra
Blue Dragon

pending:
doyak's normal
(make a new diff)
leader's hard
fiery's kiai remap
kyshiro's extra

Last edited by Mismagius 2016-11-05T20:15:24+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Mekki

1,793 posts

Joined November 2014

Mekki 2016-11-05T20:49:34+00:00

fixed

osu file format v14

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Doyak

osu! Alumni

2,621 posts

Joined November 2012

Doyak 2016-11-06T15:52:06+00:00

Bonsai wrote:
Normal
00:32:218 (1,2,3,1) - I kinda dislike how (1,2,3) flows directly into the next slider bc it loses the differentiation between the quiet build-up and the intense following section, why not just make them go up in a straight line parallel to 00:31:590 (3) -? (this would fit the DS perfectly, almost seems like you did that originally and changed it for some reason? o:) uhh it was a long time ago so I don't remember if I tried straight pattern there, but anyways changed.
This would also make me suggest to swap 02:11:485 (1,2,3) horizontally for the same reason fixed this too
00:42:428 (4,5) - ofc just my opinion but imo this makes (5) stick out a lot even though it's the same sort of beat as the tail of (4), and it also plays a bit unintuitive as the switch to this 'minor' rhythm-layer is not really expected, making (4) reverse once would make it better in both of these aspects for me
Similar to that, the switch to this rhythm-layer is just as unexpected at 00:52:637 (4,5) and I feel like making that one 3/2-slider would represent the swoosh-sound better and also build a better contrast to the following section which has a lot of gaps as opposed to the previous section which had rather few gaps
Both obviously repeat later on Even though the red ticks are minor, I still think those sounds stand out the most here and there's nothing wrong to follow it with slider + circle combined. I agree with the 00:52:637 (4) - being too edgy, so I changed this and 02:31:904 (4) - into a 3/2 slider, but I think 00:42:428 (4,5,1) - 02:21:695 (5,6,1) - work just fine, and forcing myself to change them into a reverse slider will be really troublesome D:

01:45:098 - I lack differentiation to other sections here, this section is 100% equal to the one at 00:33:161 in terms of spacing, SV and note-density even though it is clearly far less intense.. I strongly recommend either simplifying rhythm or using lower SV, I don't understand why people don't do that in lower diffs anyways, a change of -x0,1 will not throw off players at all while still making a notable difference in how the section feels Changed to 0.9 sv and removed some 1/2 notes.
02:06:145 (1) - The sound that this spinner is mapped to ends pretty accurately one 1/8 earlier at 02:09:876 so I recommend shortening the spinner to there fixed
02:50:752 (1,2,3,4,5) - The Claps seem inappropriate here, there are no more kicks in the song which is represented well by the gap between 02:49:810 (6,1) but starting the Claps again ruins that feeling for me ^
02:52:323 (5) - This being a reverse-1/2-slider doesn't seem ideal to me bc it's always being used for representing the melody notes, like at 02:51:381 (3) -, so using the exact same thing here but for a different purpose doesn't really work for me - My suggestion would be to simply make it a 1/1-slider, iirc you've never used a slider ending on a major downbeat anywhere else so that would make for a real special effect and represent the shortly increasing strong sounds here better than the 1/2-reverse ^

Thanks a lot for the mod!

Doyak's Normal

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Seijiro

osu! Alumni

3,438 posts

Joined April 2013

Seijiro 2016-11-06T18:26:33+00:00

Passing by to mention that I quickly checked Hard and Normal and the difference is a bit noticeable in fact of not density and patterns (there are some big jumps for a hard and some 1/2 back'n'forth movements that would kill even Insane players probably, on Hard) so yeah, a filler diff would be cool

Mismagius

9,237 posts

Joined July 2008

Topic Starter

Mismagius 2016-11-09T01:08:56+00:00

Silverboxer's Normal added. Will add his name to tags as soon as I have all diffs ready

Silverboxer

670 posts

Joined December 2012

Silverboxer 2016-11-09T04:53:54+00:00

SPOILER

osu file format v14

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Leader

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Leader 2016-11-12T14:04:19+00:00

I'm really busy right now, and I have no time to fix my diff

Can you do that for me, please?

Anxient

1,568 posts

Joined June 2014

Anxient 2016-11-17T16:18:43+00:00

BNs please rank this?

Doyak's Normal

00:41:328 (2) - might be just me, but the slider is facing a position which is completely out of place. maybe somethin' like this? http://puu.sh/slnTQ/35dd1f520a.jpg

00:55:779 (1) - wanna turn this to a straight slider? i mean, for this section [ 00:53:266 - 01:00:648 - (for similar sounding parts) ] youve been using straight sliders. maybe for consistency?

01:10:857 - methinks its a bad idea to keep this strong beat as a sliderend. make it clickable?

02:17:297 - maybe you can add a note? :'D youve been emphasizing every noticeable beat without fail so far, so why not? http://puu.sh/slo6O/bf39f76cec.jpg

02:41:328 - did this part dissapear or is this intentional? maybe you can do something like this? http://puu.sh/slock/c690d915c1.jpg

Bonsai

1,212 posts

Joined July 2011

Bonsai 2016-11-17T16:24:10+00:00

Anxient wrote:
BNs please rank this?

patience

Mismagius

9,237 posts

Joined July 2008

Topic Starter

Mismagius 2016-11-17T16:31:22+00:00

Bonsai wrote:
Hard
I have a big issue about spread here as the jump from Normal to this diff is way too big new normal added
Do me a favor and check your hitsounding again, there are quite a few Claps either missing or at least once misplaced by one 1/4, I don't wanna list all of them done
Also enable View / Stacking in the editor and manually adjust stacks below slidertails by 3x3 pixels, since all other 1/1-sacks are autostacked too but slidertails behave differently for some reason (example: 01:03:317 (1,2) -) done i guess
01:22:244 (1,1) - This is not enough recovery-time for a Hard, and the swoosh-sound ends at 01:23:108 anyways so I strongly recommend shortening the spinner done
00:35:359 (5,6) - Beware of autostacking making this spacing way smaller than all others, also causing the followpoints to not appear on default-skin
also at 00:54:835 (2,3) - done
00:55:778 (1,3,5,7) - (1) is not properly stack with the rest (also, in case there won't be an Advanced added, this seems way too hard to read and play, but let's wait and see) fixed
00:57:978 (4,1) - aesthetics yey, but this being less spaced than all the previous objects feels really inappropriate since (1) is a major downbeat that you even supported with a Finish, so I highly recommend emphasizing it more by placement too fixed
00:58:919 (4) - Why don't you use the same rhythm as at 01:00:176 (3,4) here? Feels randomly undermapped / 'empty' done
01:12:113 (1,2,3) - (again in case of no Advanced, I'd recommend spacing the heads at least so much apart that the combo-number is slightly visible, might be very confusing otherwise)
01:13:369 (1,2,3,4) - iirc you didn't use fully clickable triplets anywhere else, and the previous object is a circle too which makes this harder to click than the rest by quite a lot; also it's overmapped anyways whereas you generally undermapped a lot in this section so I don't see much sense in that removed
01:21:223 (2,3,4,5) - 1. differentiaion between (2) and (3) is ded and 2. making (5) an offbeat-slider but then hitsounding its tail is basically contradicting itself, so I'm just suggesting this done
01:47:924 (3,4) - Why do you put the jump to (4)? I don't see how that's special in any way and would understand a jump to (3) much more bc of natural beat priority and bc it's the highest note, so basically I'm suggesting smth like this done
01:56:092 - Why jump from x0,5 to x1,0 here all of a sudden? The notes are barely getting any more intense, it's just a continuous increase of intensity from here until the spinner, so increasing SV smoothly until there would make much more sense my guess is that Leader wanted this to be a more simplified version of a crescendo, idk, just make it another 1.0x section instead of several sections. i'm not changing this for now unless he allows me to
02:21:851 (3,4) - Here I'd actually recommend replacing it with a 1/1-slider since the tail of (3) is overmapped and it doesn't represent the intensity of the song at all like this i believe the background sounds can easily represent this rhythm
02:22:479 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2) - I'd recommend removing all of the few Claps here since there are less of them mapped than ignored, feels really weird when suddenly there are suddenly three Claps in a row after they have been left out for just as long and then they are being left out again yeah these were just copied from the higher diff, fixed
02:52:008 (3,4,1) - autostack makes (3,4) not be vertical xd Also, why isn't it spaced more like the previous three objects?
02:51:380 (1,2,3,4,1) - I feel like (1,2) don't fit the rest of the map aesthetically at all tbh, additionally with the sudden symmetry it seems like the last combo is from an entirely different map than the rest fixed both

Kuron-kun

Kuron-kun 2016-11-17T17:39:00+00:00

oie

bold = highly recommended
red = unrankable

General

A linha vermelha na diff do grumd, do Leader e do NiNo estão posicionadas de forma errada, comparada com o resto.
As tags na diff do Leader estão entrando em conflito com o resto.

Silver's Normal
00:33:161 (1,2) - I've seen that you really like consistency and this difficulty is really consistent itself, but these two sliders don't really follow the same rhythm as the rest on this section. The pattern should start with a circle then a 2/1 slider on the red tick. Something like this (or anything that follows the same rhythm) would help to keep the section more consistent. Plus, would also help to emphasize the strong sound, since the sliders are ending on that sound, making it less emphasized.

01:07:088 (1,2,3,4,5) - Really unsure about this. This is a Normal diff, you've done a lot simply by changind the slider velocity, which isn't really recommended for low diffs, and you changed the spacing here as well, which is even less recommended than changing the SV. I know that you tried to emphasize it, since the song is really strong in this section but it might be really confusing. Why don't you try this instead? It will keep emphasizing the strong sound and wouldn't be hard, since the circles are all closer to each other. If you agreed with this, don't forget to rearrange the DS.

01:20:595 (4,1) - Again something I'm really unsure about. This section of the song is pretty continuous and doesn't indicate a break at all, nor you indicated one with your previous pattern, so adding one here is really confusing and would pretty much cause a miss, specially if you note that 01:20:910 -still has a sound. You can either add a note on the empty white tick or you can increase the DS between (4) and (1). I wouldn't recommend at all keeping the way it is now.

02:02:376 (1,2,3,4) - Same about the low-ds patterns I mentioned before, but these aren't really a bad thing because they're closer to the sliders and aren't really confusing. But if you want to keep consistency you should do the same here. This is just an opinion, though!

02:06:145 (1) - The way this spinner is ending could be some trouble, specially due to the low AR. When the AR is low you can't really see when the spinner is going to end and even before it ends the notes are showing on screen, so that might confuse new players and make them missclick the circles. You can end the spinner on 02:09:601 - and put a big slider starting on the next white tick to emphasize the sound.

02:12:428 (1,2) - Same as first item for consistency reasons. If you agreed with them, of course! Here as well 02:17:454 (1,2) - .

02:46:355 (1,2,3,4,5) - You already know what I'm going to mention here, just for consistency. And if you applied there, of course you have to apply here, since they're the same patterns but... upside down?

desu

Doyak

osu! Alumni

2,621 posts

Joined November 2012

Doyak 2016-11-18T12:10:32+00:00

Anxient wrote:
BNs please rank this?

Doyak's Normal

00:41:328 (2) - might be just me, but the slider is facing a position which is completely out of place. maybe somethin' like this? http://puu.sh/slnTQ/35dd1f520a.jpg imo it flows very well. Rather your suggestion feels weird because 00:41:328 (2,3) - becomes too linear.

00:55:779 (1) - wanna turn this to a straight slider? i mean, for this section [ 00:53:266 - 01:00:648 - (for similar sounding parts) ] youve been using straight sliders. maybe for consistency? I consider it as a beginning of a new 'section', so I came out from those 'straight' slider patterns.

01:10:857 - methinks its a bad idea to keep this strong beat as a sliderend. make it clickable? It's because there's no melody sound, so I feel it less important.

02:17:297 - maybe you can add a note? :'D youve been emphasizing every noticeable beat without fail so far, so why not? http://puu.sh/slo6O/bf39f76cec.jpg That'll create too long train, also it's better to not have a note there when I want to emphasize 00:41:328 (2,3) - better.

02:41:328 - did this part dissapear or is this intentional? maybe you can do something like this? http://puu.sh/slock/c690d915c1.jpg It's because the melody goes really disappearing, so I made it empty so that players can feel it.

Thanks for the mod, but should disagree with all.

@Blue Dragon: My diff's latest version is on p/5593767 but seems you haven't updated yet. Could you upload it?

fieryrage

osu! Champion / Elite Nominator II

1,402 posts

Joined November 2013

fieryrage 2016-11-19T03:03:59+00:00

~~working on this tomorrow lo.~~ fuck school i got the week now at least

Bonsai

1,212 posts

Joined July 2011

Bonsai 2016-11-25T17:49:14+00:00

*gets excited to see that the last post was seven days ago*
*remembers that I already got kds for this set*
;_;
maybe the fact that Silver's diff is new and that fiery's diff which I'll mod ofc will be new too could be reason for another kds?
probably not tho lol why am I so desperate for kds actually

General

Not really general but it concerns all three Extras (and fiery but remap so whatever): 01:56:092 - The first sliderheads are not providing any feedback at all / are basically inaudible or indistuingishable, which is breaking RC. Just raise the volume for the heads, it doesn't make sense to use different rhythms (in Kyshiro's and BD's) based on what is going on in the song but not make those rhythms be emphasized by sound anyways
Also, to be a bit nazi in grumd's and BD's, the increase in volume is very imbalanced: The initial change from 5% to 15% is tripling the volume, while the next one from 15% to 25% is not even doubling it, and for some reason there's no change at 01:59:862 at all.. Could be balanced much better
Both also applies to 02:06:145 in some more diffs too (ofc applies to a spinner just as much as to a slider)

re-check for Tarrasky's Light Insane:

00:33:475 (4,7) - The issue here is that because those notes are autostacking, (4) is being moved 4x4 pixels to the left and up, which makes (2,3,4) slightly curved instead of straight
02:06:145 (1) - You didn't change this, I recommend removing the last reverse from this slider so it ends at 02:09:876 because that's where the sound ends ^^

Silver's Normal

I'd rename this to Advanced, not only to avoid repetition of diffnames and make the diffnames progress logically, but also bc having five clickable 1/2s in a row and all those spacing-changes / antijumps aren't really suited for a Normal anyways ^^
00:33:161 (1,2,3,4,1) - Since I already knew the song it was quite surprising that there's a 1/1-slider at (4) since in the song it's just a repetition of the musical pattern at (1,2), so I suggest making a 1/1-slider at (1,2) too in order to make it feel more 'logical' - If you wanna do rhythmic variety, I'd do that later in the section, but not right at the beginning of the section when the regular rhythm hasn't even been established
00:41:957 (1,2,3) - autostacking makes the DS a bit bigger here, especially here I'd avoid that since the music is getting calmer for a moment ^^
01:02:689 (3,4) - I'm missing differentiation to the other patterns like this because this one doesn't have those strong melody-notes on (4) and the tail of (3) anymore.. How about letting (3) reverse twice?
01:13:056 (1) - imo this would have a much nicer effect if you continued with the placement of 01:12:114 (1,2,3) -, and it would also make it more easy to notice that this is an overmapped-3/4-slider which hasn't been introduced yet
01:14:627 (1,2,1,2,1,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2) - You're using so many NCs here that they completely lose their meaning, it's hard to still recognize patterns here instead of just perceiving it as chaotic NC-spam.. I'd recommend removing the NC at 01:15:255 (1) since those pairs of sliders aren't really that paired in the map itself like 01:17:140 (1,2,1,2) for example, and also removing the at 01:16:826 (1)
01:20:595 (4,1) - I mean it's not 'bad', but I just wanna point out that this is the most cruel place for an antijump imaginable since everybody will click the downbeat on first play and hate you lol - How would you feel about adding a reverse to (4)?
01:23:501 (1) - recommending to silence the spinnerend since it doesn't end on any distinct beat, even the pitch-change of the background-synth sounds more like it would be one red tick later but it's not distinct either way
02:06:145 (1,1) - This isn't enough recovery time for a Normal (and not for an Advanced either at this BPM), we generally stick to this as guideline, and I think removing 02:11:485 (1,2,3) would still have a very nice effect here
Also I'd like to suggest silencing this spinnerend too so that the following measure really is silent instead of still hearing the soft-hitnormal fade out 1/1 into the measure
02:49:182 (1) - This NC seems like an accident lol
02:52:323 (1,1) - imo this feels really forced / overdone for this difficulty-level, and ending on an offbeat-slider always feel so nice imo

Nino's Insane

00:28:292 (2,4,5) - beware of weird autostacking-behaviour making it look like this, dunno if that's what you want ^^
01:04:574 (1,2,3) - 02:43:841 (1,2,3) - I'm missing differentiation here, at all other combos like this you always use 1/1-sliders but only here you don't which makes these 1/2-slider-chains seems bland and not really related to the song anymore, I strongly recommend using 1/1-sliders here too
02:06:145 (1) - Recommending to shorten this by one reverse bc the sound in the song ends 1/8 earlier ^^
Not a big fan of the overall aesthetics, but that's just taste ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

grumd's Extra

Are you sure about not using any KiaiTime?
00:43:212 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - Seems weird to me that you use pure 1/2-rhythm for so long here when you're using a lot of 3/4- and 1/4-rhythms right after that in this section, I'd introduce them earlier to make it more balanced and logical
00:55:778 (7) - 01:02:061 (9) - missing NCs?
02:06:144 (1) - The sound you wanna end this spinner on is actually 1/8 earlier
02:33:160 (5,6) - 02:34:417 (5,6) - Those are easy to read with transparent skins, but maps are being judged with the default skin, which makes this stupidly hard to read, especially since the sliderball covers it for quite some time too, please change this to something easier to read with the default skin

Kyshiro's Extra

02:35:046 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - This felt like quite the diffspike to me, and even just decreasing the spacing of 02:36:302 (1,2,3) a bit to match the rest makes SR drop quite a bit, seems imbalanced to me
I heavily dislike your overmapping, like 01:05:360 (5,6,7,8,9) - 01:09:915 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 00:37:559 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - etc.. Arguing that there might be some minor 1/4s somewhere in the background doesn't work for me when those are sounds that exist through basically the entire song and are never mapped anywhere else, they don't fit your choice of rhythm throughout the rest of your map and make it seem like you needed them to force variation that you were unable to provide elsewise
00:43:213 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - same as with grumd, you only use 1/2-rhythms here but after those notes you use 1/4s all the time, would make more sense to introduce one of the 1/4-rhtyhms earlier into this section
Also it seems a bit weird to me to make 00:44:313 (5) an offbeat-slider but emphasize the tail with a hitsound, makes me suggest to either change the beat placement or the hitsounding
02:06:145 (1) - The sound this is mapped to actually ends 1/8 earlier
02:16:669 (4,5,6) - I lack differentiation here, you're generally closely following the more prominent layer of melody-notes, which doesn't have any note at (5)

Blue Dragon's Blue Dragon

please use that name :^D^D^D
Tbh I really dislike how your second half is much harder than the first one when the song is exactly the same, the first one only being 6,21* and the second one being 6,95*.. gets ready to be called a hypocrite after nominating this bc I regularly flamed on other maps that do this
00:22:480 (2) - I get that you're not using the whistles for certain consistent notes throughout the map, but in the intro, when the regular rhythm hasn't even been established yet and there's nothing but three equally strong notes, using different hitsounding for those three notes feems really weird to me :/
00:54:129 - 00:59:156 - hitsound-inconsistency aa
01:50:438 (4,5) - uuh is this not-straight on purpose? looks accidental, and you have plenty of space to move all following stuff to the left
also I didn't notice that Leader ended 02:06:144 (1) on the blue tick in the Hard even tho it should be on the 1/8~

whoo I think that's it for now *looks at fieryrage*

Silverboxer

670 posts

Joined December 2012

Silverboxer 2016-11-27T22:52:38+00:00

bonsai mod

Bonsai wrote:
Silver's Normal
I'd rename this to Advanced, not only to avoid repetition of diffnames and make the diffnames progress logically, but also bc having five clickable 1/2s in a row and all those spacing-changes / antijumps aren't really suited for a Normal anyways ^^ I let BD rename it so I dont ruin anything
00:33:161 (1,2,3,4,1) - Since I already knew the song it was quite surprising that there's a 1/1-slider at (4) since in the song it's just a repetition of the musical pattern at (1,2), so I suggest making a 1/1-slider at (1,2) too in order to make it feel more 'logical' - If you wanna do rhythmic variety, I'd do that later in the section, but not right at the beginning of the section when the regular rhythm hasn't even been established changed (1,2) to what you said
00:41:957 (1,2,3) - autostacking makes the DS a bit bigger here, especially here I'd avoid that since the music is getting calmer for a moment ^^ I don't understand? making them not stacked increase ds even more? :thinkin:
01:02:689 (3,4) - I'm missing differentiation to the other patterns like this because this one doesn't have those strong melody-notes on (4) and the tail of (3) anymore.. How about letting (3) reverse twice? I like it, done
01:13:056 (1) - imo this would have a much nicer effect if you continued with the placement of 01:12:114 (1,2,3) -, and it would also make it more easy to notice that this is an overmapped-3/4-slider which hasn't been introduced yet good idea, done
01:14:627 (1,2,1,2,1,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2) - You're using so many NCs here that they completely lose their meaning, it's hard to still recognize patterns here instead of just perceiving it as chaotic NC-spam.. I'd recommend removing the NC at 01:15:255 (1) since those pairs of sliders aren't really that paired in the map itself like 01:17:140 (1,2,1,2) for example, and also removing the at 01:16:826 (1) I have fixed this before but I guess this diff was never updated? fixed combos the way it was last time I updated this.
01:20:595 (4,1) - I mean it's not 'bad', but I just wanna point out that this is the most cruel place for an antijump imaginable since everybody will click the downbeat on first play and hate you lol - How would you feel about adding a reverse to (4)? sure
01:23:501 (1) - recommending to silence the spinnerend since it doesn't end on any distinct beat, even the pitch-change of the background-synth sounds more like it would be one red tick later but it's not distinct either way done
02:06:145 (1,1) - This isn't enough recovery time for a Normal (and not for an Advanced either at this BPM), we generally stick to this as guideline, and I think removing 02:11:485 (1,2,3) would still have a very nice effect here
Also I'd like to suggest silencing this spinnerend too so that the following measure really is silent instead of still hearing the soft-hitnormal fade out 1/1 into the measure shortened the spinner instead, the section of no notes gives a better effect of the music than removing those three strong notes
02:49:182 (1) - This NC seems like an accident lol you are correct lol
02:52:323 (1,1) - imo this feels really forced / overdone for this difficulty-level, and ending on an offbeat-slider always feel so nice imo I extended the last slider 1 tick and got rid of the circle

http://puu.sh/swA3M/52843cc5dc.osu

fieryrage

osu! Champion / Elite Nominator II

1,402 posts

Joined November 2013

fieryrage 2016-11-29T20:51:04+00:00

Bonsai wrote:
whoo I think that's it for now *looks at fieryrage*

BOY I GOT SCHOOL AND OWC TO WORRY ABOUT BUT NOW THAT CORY IS QUALID I CAN ACTUALLY DEDICATE SOME TIME TO THIS FINALLY OK WOO LETS GO

Tarrasky

1,203 posts

Joined March 2014

Tarrasky 2016-12-02T01:43:54+00:00

bonsai recheck

osu file format v14

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0034192

6 posts

Joined September 2015

0034192 2016-12-05T02:33:10+00:00

on BD diff
00:50:105 (6,7,8,9)
shouldnt this pattern be replaced with a pattern like this?
https://puu.sh/sExzi/f562f87a6a.jpg

Mismagius

9,237 posts

Joined July 2008

Topic Starter

Mismagius 2016-12-14T01:23:02+00:00

Bonsai wrote:
*gets excited to see that the last post was seven days ago*
*remembers that I already got kds for this set*
;_;
maybe the fact that Silver's diff is new and that fiery's diff which I'll mod ofc will be new too could be reason for another kds?
probably not tho lol why am I so desperate for kds actually

General
Not really general but it concerns all three Extras (and fiery but remap so whatever): 01:56:092 - The first sliderheads are not providing any feedback at all / are basically inaudible or indistuingishable, which is breaking RC. Just raise the volume for the heads, it doesn't make sense to use different rhythms (in Kyshiro's and BD's) based on what is going on in the song but not make those rhythms be emphasized by sound anyways i personally don't agree with this - the sliderheads are providing feedback based on the drums, and the synths in the song are giving the "rhythm feedback" and keeping the song going lol
Also, to be a bit nazi in grumd's and BD's, the increase in volume is very imbalanced: The initial change from 5% to 15% is tripling the volume, while the next one from 15% to 25% is not even doubling it, and for some reason there's no change at 01:59:862 at all.. Could be balanced much better idk, i feel like 5 - 15 - 25 being a +10 consistent change and keeping it as 25 for a while since the volume change isn't huge is fine for me.
Both also applies to 02:06:145 in some more diffs too (ofc applies to a spinner just as much as to a slider) idk about this

Blue Dragon's Blue Dragon
please use that name :^D^D^D na
Tbh I really dislike how your second half is much harder than the first one when the song is exactly the same, the first one only being 6,21* and the second one being 6,95*.. gets ready to be called a hypocrite after nominating this bc I regularly flamed on other maps that do this eh lol i feel like there's a bigger buildup & stuff
00:22:480 (2) - I get that you're not using the whistles for certain consistent notes throughout the map, but in the intro, when the regular rhythm hasn't even been established yet and there's nothing but three equally strong notes, using different hitsounding for those three notes feems really weird to me :/ fixed i guess? last one is stronger
00:54:129 - 00:59:156 - hitsound-inconsistency aa fixed
01:50:438 (4,5) - uuh is this not-straight on purpose? looks accidental, and you have plenty of space to move all following stuff to the left there's a triangle betwen 3,4,5
also I didn't notice that Leader ended 02:06:144 (1) on the blue tick in the Hard even tho it should be on the 1/8~
whoo I think that's it for now *looks at fieryrage*

ok uhm i need the other GDs to actually do something now lol
also gonna start answering for kyshiro since he hasn't responded me for like 3 months

Bonsai wrote:
Kyshiro's Extra
02:35:046 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - This felt like quite the diffspike to me, and even just decreasing the spacing of 02:36:302 (1,2,3) a bit to match the rest makes SR drop quite a bit, seems imbalanced to me done
I heavily dislike your overmapping, like 01:05:360 (5,6,7,8,9) - 01:09:915 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 00:37:559 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - etc.. Arguing that there might be some minor 1/4s somewhere in the background doesn't work for me when those are sounds that exist through basically the entire song and are never mapped anywhere else, they don't fit your choice of rhythm throughout the rest of your map and make it seem like you needed them to force variation that you were unable to provide elsewise cant really sort that out for him sadly
00:43:213 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - same as with grumd, you only use 1/2-rhythms here but after those notes you use 1/4s all the time, would make more sense to introduce one of the 1/4-rhtyhms earlier into this section done
Also it seems a bit weird to me to make 00:44:313 (5) an offbeat-slider but emphasize the tail with a hitsound, makes me suggest to either change the beat placement or the hitsounding fixed i guess
02:06:145 (1) - The sound this is mapped to actually ends 1/8 earlier done
02:16:669 (4,5,6) - I lack differentiation here, you're generally closely following the more prominent layer of melody-notes, which doesn't have any note at (5) fixed

Last edited by Mismagius 2016-12-14T01:31:10+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

fieryrage

osu! Champion / Elite Nominator II

1,402 posts

Joined November 2013

fieryrage 2016-12-14T01:30:11+00:00

MrSergio wrote:
Fiery:
- 00:25:622 (1,2,1,2) - why so many NCs here and not 00:23:108 (1,2,3,4,5) - here? (less NCs are better). There are similar patterns onwards so check them out too removed nc's from 00:26:250 (3) - and 00:31:276 (3) - and applied to other patterns like that
- 00:56:407 (1,1) - no need for so many NCs, the pattern is already readable enough done
- 01:00:805 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - structure here is a bit lacking, or maybe the whole map is like this... idk touched up this part
- 01:23:108 (1) - NC not needed keeping this one though -- there's a different emphasis on the note here and i'd like to emphasize that with the spacing and nc
- 01:52:323 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - again, structure is a bit lacking pattern changed here
- what I said above applies to also the copy-pasted kiai times fixed the ones that i changed above so no worries about that
- again, for this diff too structure is a bit too relaxed and in "TV-size/anime" style. Try to give more meaning to patterns overall please this would basically require an entire remap as it is, i feel like the song sort of calls for that though since it's essentially the same melody repeated twice in a row and it's oddly relaxing in most parts (kiai being the only one it isn't)

relooked at most parts of the map a while ago and revamped as necessary (mainly kiai and some blanket/slider changes), ty for modding!
and no ty to myself for taking 5 years to do this god dammit fuck

shit

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SnowNiNo_

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

2,106 posts

Joined April 2013

SnowNiNo_ 2016-12-14T11:12:54+00:00

Bonsai wrote:
Nino's Insane
00:28:292 (2,4,5) - beware of weird autostacking-behaviour making it look like this, dunno if that's what you want ^^
01:04:574 (1,2,3) - 02:43:841 (1,2,3) - I'm missing differentiation here, at all other combos like this you always use 1/1-sliders but only here you don't which makes these 1/2-slider-chains seems bland and not really related to the song anymore, I strongly recommend using 1/1-sliders here too
02:06:145 (1) - Recommending to shorten this by one reverse bc the sound in the song ends 1/8 earlier ^^
Not a big fan of the overall aesthetics, but that's just taste ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

thx for mod
no mention = fixed

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: BLUE DRAGON.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 32218
Countdown: 1
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 23108,33161,43213,53266,63318,73370,83423,104784,132428,142480,152533,157245,162585,172637
DistanceSpacing: 1.6
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2

[Metadata]
Title:BLUE DRAGON
TitleUnicode:BLUE DRAGON
Artist:Seiryu
ArtistUnicode:Seiryu
Creator:Blue Dragon
Version:NiNo's Insane
Source:
Tags:ryu jubeat plus android reflec beat ポップンリズミン grumd kyshiro doyak tarrasky mkguh leader fieryrage snownino_
BeatmapID:996357
BeatmapSetID:326920

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:9
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"wallpaper-1881159.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
2,83623,103527
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Mismagius

9,237 posts

Joined July 2008

Topic Starter

Mismagius 2016-12-15T00:00:38+00:00

GDers: please update your difficulties to the latest version and check if everything is fine

grumd

1,790 posts

Joined October 2010

grumd 2016-12-18T16:31:17+00:00

Fixed everything except of these:

02:06:144 (1) - The sound you wanna end this spinner on is actually 1/8 earlier
I dont agree, it sounds best at white tick for me
02:33:160 (5,6) - 02:34:417 (5,6) - Those are easy to read with transparent skins, but maps are being judged with the default skin, which makes this stupidly hard to read, especially since the sliderball covers it for quite some time too, please change this to something easier to read with the default skin[/list]
Default skin is transparent too and the next slider is totally visible even with it. Secondly, this is an Extra, not a Normal or a Hard. I never understood why Extras can have hard streams, hard jumps, but never could have patterns that are harder than average in terms of reading. This pattern is not unreadable, it just requires some skill and reaction to be played, which was my intent. Not fixing this

Diff:
http://pastebin.com/raw/0TiMq1p6

Mismagius

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Joined July 2008

Topic Starter

Mismagius 2016-12-18T17:21:16+00:00

ok updated

Bonsai

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Joined July 2011

Bonsai 2016-12-22T21:24:20+00:00

talked with a QAT about the issue I had with Kyshiro's diff, QAT said it's fine so here's a star for now~~

and here's a quick pseudo-mod for Fiery's Insane

00:23:108 (1,3,4) - 01:46:983 (5,2) - I'm gonna keep my mouth shut about the aesthetics of this diff in general but I think these overlaps could really easily be avoided to make it look somewhat cleaner xd
00:37:873 (2,3,1) - Also not gonna care about spacings too much but the beat at (1) is clearly far stronger than the one at (3) so this spacing here is just ??
00:52:794 (3,4) - 02:32:061 (3,4) - I find those jumps very unreasonable bc there's nothing on these notes that justifies them having so significantly more spacing than anything around them, like the (1) prior to it for example, which would have much more backing it up
02:42:585 (1) - 02:47:611 (1) - I'd suggest to at least slightly raise the SV for those sliders bc rn they just create a weird moment of nothing happening at all bc the SV in general is very low compared to the spacings, so having such a long slider in a very intense section doesn't really fit imo

~~~

fieryrage

osu! Champion / Elite Nominator II

1,402 posts

Joined November 2013

fieryrage 2016-12-22T21:59:57+00:00

Bonsai wrote:
talked with a QAT about the issue I had with Kyshiro's diff, QAT said it's fine so here's a star for now~~

and here's a quick pseudo-mod for Fiery's Insane
00:23:108 (1,3,4) - 01:46:983 (5,2) - I'm gonna keep my mouth shut about the aesthetics of this diff in general but I think these overlaps could really easily be avoided to make it look somewhat cleaner xd y the fuck did i do this 5 months ago holy shit im stupid
00:37:873 (2,3,1) - Also not gonna care about spacings too much but the beat at (1) is clearly far stronger than the one at (3) so this spacing here is just ?? fixe
00:52:794 (3,4) - 02:32:061 (3,4) - I find those jumps very unreasonable bc there's nothing on these notes that justifies them having so significantly more spacing than anything around them, like the (1) prior to it for example, which would have much more backing it up i just stacked them yea
02:42:585 (1) - 02:47:611 (1) - I'd suggest to at least slightly raise the SV for those sliders bc rn they just create a weird moment of nothing happening at all bc the SV in general is very low compared to the spacings, so having such a long slider in a very intense section doesn't really fit imo eh, comparatively speaking to the section before it it's relatively calm, the synth here is a lot more potent than the claps/drums/what have you in this section anyway; the only real huge spacing increase is 02:42:585 (1,2) - and i did this with the fact that most people don't fully follow sliders to their end, so it plays just fine imho
~~~

5 month old diffs are great (read: time to die)

All denied, thanks for modding!

osu file format v14

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