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Kuroneko Dungeon - Lilieze to Enryuu Laevateinn

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Nyquill
I don't remember how this graveyarding business works
jonathanlfj
WTF why did you post rip 2kd

[General]
fix the countdowns to be the same on all diffs
197kbps vbr is gonna need to get fixed too, timing is off anyways

[Beginner]
00:03:927 (3) - offscreen
00:05:127 (1,2,1,2) - i would've gone with this, its much easier to play: 00:23:127 (3) - offscreen
00:34:227 (1,1) - spacing
00:40:077 (2,3) - would be great if the starts didnt overlap
00:44:727 (2) - spacing
00:47:127 (2,3,4) - this can look so much better
01:07:827 (3,1) - spacing
01:39:927 (5) - i would remove the repeat, the last sound is not significant

[Normal]
since you went with unconventional naming might want to use Standard here (also gives the impression that its harder than a Normal)
dud where are you volume changes?? just copy from leggendaria and reset the sv modifiers
01:01:827 (3) - blanket
01:03:777 (2) - blanket
01:45:627 (7) - i would have used two circles here just because its so hype

[Giralda's Hyper]
00:08:877 (1,2,3,4) - even number of stacks are gonna throw some people off, you can try to do a back and forth or something
00:27:327 (3) - not even spacing
01:13:827 - i'd add a note here, you have one at 01:17:427 (2) and other comparable places
01:21:027 (4) - if ur gonna follow the 1/2 drum here you shouldn't miss the corresponding 1/4 at 01:21:252, it connects nicely with the kiai

[captin's Another]
00:19:827 (2,3) - i found this a bit hard to catch on, maybe make the distance slightly smaller
00:28:827 (2,3,4,5) - ur gonna want to compress this a bit more to distinguish from the 1/3s
00:47:127 (4) - but its actually 1/4 xD
00:51:927 (4) - ya
01:04:377 (6) - plays a bit weird having the down beat land on a slider end, i would go with 2 circles

[Another†leggendaria]
00:01:227 (9,10,11,12,1) - one year later this stack still triggers me, you already changed the earlier patterns might as well make some movement out of this as well (e.g. a star pattern stream)
01:01:377 (4,5,6,7) - i find this pattern very difficult to hit, i think lowering 01:01:827 (7) makes it feel much better
01:08:877 (1,2,3) - this should have less spacing than 01:09:177 (1,2,1) judging from how you handled the pattern
01:18:927 (1,2) - i occasionally miss this, then i realized 01:18:327 (3,4,5,6,1) are not equal distant...might want to fix that
01:34:077 - dud are you high
01:36:177 - lo
I have an older version of this diff you can probably extract the missing parts from it: http://puu.sh/sCry7.zip
captin1
"Delis"
[captin2]
  1. 00:43:827 (6,7,8,9,1) - make this stream larger? this is just more fun to me lol nah
  2. 00:46:377 (6) - I would move it down to be like a symmetrical with 00:45:927 (3,4) - it fits the song more exact to me, plus it's somehow more reasonable pattern that the new combo begins with new pattern which is not the same as 00:46:227 (5,6) - well this is just what I prefer.. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4498742
  3. 00:56:577 (3) - I thought you wouldn't use an overlap like this anymore xD lul its k
  4. 01:37:527 (3,4,5) - I'm not talking about overlapping, but if you move these objects to not overlap the slider, this will be comfortably better flow in my opinion. especially 01:37:827 (5) - this slider flows into next slider really natural I think, so you could just give a try at least. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4498769
fixd all from lffsdfsdaffsfkslj

surprisingly this map doesn't suck as much as i thought it would, guess copying nyquill is a good way to go
SPOILER
osu file format v14

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Title:Lilieze to enryuu Laevateinn
TitleUnicode:リリーゼと炎龍レーヴァテイン
Artist:Kuroneko Dungeon
ArtistUnicode:黒猫ダンジョン
Creator:Nyquill
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Topic Starter
Nyquill
wait so that means up to now you thought my mapping sucked :/
captin1
you literally have several notes missing during the kiai u wumbo
Topic Starter
Nyquill
you dodged my inquiry :/
Topic Starter
Nyquill
okay w.e yolo
jonathanlfj
mp3 is still 197kbps vbr, at least make it 192 :/
MillhioreF

jonathanlfj wrote:

mp3 is still 197kbps vbr, at least make it 192 :/
as long as you're spam updating your map might as well fix this too
jonathanlfj
yeah took 6 updates to fix everything, we good now tho
Rizia
yehaj
Topic Starter
Nyquill
wot
Natsu
Prince N'yquill
General

  1. Your normal diff is too dense lol, the spread is fine, but you would need to rename this to advanced and rename beginner to normal (or something)
Beginner

  1. 00:34:413 (1,1) - add more spacing between them, they are almost overlapping.
  2. 00:34:413 (1,1) - avoid the overlap xd
  3. 00:44:913 (2,3) - what happen with the spacing here o.o
  4. 00:47:013 (1,2) - ^
  5. 00:50:913 (5,2) - avoid the overlap :l
  6. 01:07:113 (2,3,1) - spacing
  7. 01:29:313 (2,3,4) - probably there is a way to don't overlap them
  8. 01:30:513 (4,1) - this blanket make me cry
  9. 01:38:313 (1,2,3,4) - same, don't overlap them, the funny thing is that 3 and 4 don't overlap each other just 1 2 and 3 lol
  10. 01:40:113 (5,1) - ^
Normal

  1. 00:01:713 (1,2) - prince N'yquill your blankets are so bad xd
  2. 00:33:513 (5) - this is touching the HP bar, I'm sure you can manage to avoid it
  3. 00:51:213 (5,1) - blanket this better?

Giralda

  1. this diff needs more triplets, captin1's diff is full of stream, so IMO the spread doens't looks that nice atm
captin1
dad
Topic Starter
Nyquill
I think I accidentally overbooked this map FK

Oh well, more mods is never a bad thing.

Will take a look later when I push something out.
Shurelia
oh my, Nyquill in 2017 ? PogChamp
Topic Starter
Nyquill
only takes me 2 years to rank a map at this rate I'm on track to outperform andrea by the time the osu skynet edition comes out
VINXIS

Nyquill wrote:

I think I accidentally overbooked this map FK
MEIRL TBH
Delis

VINXIS wrote:

Nyquill wrote:

I think I accidentally overbooked this map FK
MEIRL TBH


oh shit it's new page
Pentori
lol

offset feels a bit behind, 508 sounds a lot better
[Another†leggendaria]
00:00:513 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - hitsounds could be a little more dynamic imo, drums gradually lower in pitch 00:00:513 (1,2) - 00:00:663 (3,4) - 00:00:813 (5) - so u could use normal samplesets, drum claps and drum finishes respectively. right now you have normal samplesets covering completely different sounds
00:01:713 (1,2,3) - i find these repeating rhythms don't express the music that well, since you have the strongest of the four sounds mapped to slider ends 00:02:163 . ctrl g'ing the rhythms would allow the higher pitched melodies to be emphasised with a slider 00:01:713 (1,4) - 00:02:913 (1) - etc. and would let the snares be clickable
00:03:813 (6) - since the music changes here with the snare coming in half a beat early, you should try use another pattern to differentiate it from 00:02:913 (1,2,3)
00:05:313 - i feel these could be thought out a bit better as well since you have a lot of strong sounds on slider ends
00:09:663 (6) - normal sampleset for snare? and soft addition to keep the whistle
00:10:413 - 00:11:013 - adding normal samplesets to these drums would be a nice addition, currently the hitsounds here feel a bit lackluster. same for other sliderends and stuff like 00:12:213 (6) - 00:14:013 .
00:14:513 (6) - norm sampleset on tail instead of head? thats where the drum lands
00:16:713 (5,6) - spacing here is a bit too big, causes it to be really unintuitive since it looks like 1/1 spacing
00:29:313 - the rhythms here don't work with the music too well, your patterns are organised in beats of 3 but the music works in 4. u can hear the melodies resetting on beats like 00:29:913 - 00:30:513 - 00:31:113 - etc. which is after the 4th beat
00:36:663 (6,7) - rhythm could be ctrl g'ed here, since 00:36:813 - is really strong and better emphasised with a clickable object
00:43:113 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:38:613 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - these two are mapped quite inconsistently, since with 00:38:613 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - you're following the melodies and ignoring the drums while 00:43:863 (3,4,5) - does the opposite. imo you could introduce the stream from 00:43:413 - then have a repeat slider on 00:44:013 - for drums
00:53:913 (1) - feels a bit undermapped. since the music transitions here, having these as circles would reflect the intensity a lot better

rest of the map seems fine, good luck!
Topic Starter
Nyquill
for the record I asked pentori to check extra because I wanted more eyes for it

I'll work on this tonight when I uh stop playing videogames
captin1
did you stop yet
Topic Starter
Nyquill
videogames too strong
Nao Tomori
are u allowed to put unicode in the diffname? u can get silenced for putting unicode in public chats lol...
VINXIS
jonathanlfj

Naotoshi wrote:

are u allowed to put unicode in the diffname? u can get silenced for putting unicode in public chats lol...
based on the input I got from QAT there is no rule disallowing it, and I'm pretty sure you only get silenced if you post Unicode in public chat that is obstructive in nature xD
Some1
Lirai
why u dont add gd on tags



is this map still goin on ..
Kaine
3 months later nyquill still playing videogames that aren't called osu
Topic Starter
Nyquill

Pentori wrote:

00:05:313 - i feel these could be thought out a bit better as well since you have a lot of strong sounds on slider ends That's a bit vague.
I feel like ultimately the goal this section looks to achieve is simply to convey the rise in pitch while being pleasantly playable so I recurringly used a slider to end phrases. There could possibly be a different way to achieve this, but honestly I think its alright.

00:29:313 - the rhythms here don't work with the music too well, your patterns are organised in beats of 3 but the music works in 4. u can hear the melodies resetting on beats like 00:29:913 - 00:30:513 - 00:31:113 - etc. which is after the 4th beat Actually https://youtu.be/5WzE9zeCzL0?t=38s
00:36:663 (6,7) - rhythm could be ctrl g'ed here, since 00:36:813 - is really strong and better emphasised with a clickable object I personally did this because I want it to be of similar stream structure to 00:36:663 (6) -
00:43:113 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:38:613 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - these two are mapped quite inconsistently, since with 00:38:613 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - you're following the melodies and ignoring the drums while 00:43:863 (3,4,5) - does the opposite. imo you could introduce the stream from 00:43:413 - then have a repeat slider on 00:44:013 - for drums I thought it was more important to have the drums the focal point here since it was a transition.
00:53:913 (1) - feels a bit undermapped. since the music transitions here, having these as circles would reflect the intensity a lot better I feel like I wanted to give the players a break before entering the next set of jumps, and the downbeat of a new section seemed like a pretty alright place to do it.
I mean I undermap a lot of these sections on purpose for the sake of playability, so this definitely wouldn't be the only occasion where I could have added more notes but chose not to.
Updating in a sec while I decide whether or not to apply the second last thing I want to try some things
Natsu
:o
Topic Starter
Nyquill
ok I updated. The only thing I didn't do from natsu was the uh... diff name change.... because the current spread uses meme ones but like ? I can change it if its necessary
Nao Tomori
btw u need to add captin1 gaia to tags or its unrankable
captin1
>gaia
Topic Starter
Nyquill
you are not incorrect
Topic Starter
Nyquill
ok done
Nao Tomori
theyre both canadian and their names start with g theyre basically the same person..
Topic Starter
Nyquill
can't argue with that
jonathanlfj
k
Giralda
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