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Hmm... I'll get some more opinions. I can definitely change it to something else though! Thanks
ktgster
VINXIS

VINXIS wrote:

  1. 00:18:000 (3,4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - rANDOM JUMPZqa. Anyway the problem is spacing emphasis and combo i ng. If you're mapping the guitar strums for emphasis the ncs sud actualyl b on 00:18:922 (1,1) - and not wot u hav rn. it looks random with ur way and unjustified or w./e OK - wut
  2. 00:25:846 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - space thes ese out mo r e it looks weird 4 them 2 be so close wen u had 1/2 spacing much larger than dis b4444 - I thnk is fine, s0ng is pretty calm n is cn't be tht hrd
  3. lol @ ending

Atsuro

Atsuro wrote:

[ktgster's Insane]
  1. 00:17:230 (1) - The drum normals don't really fit here imo, they are too loud. Lower the volume or change them. - lowered volume
  2. 00:32:615 (3,4,5,1) - This pattern is a bit confusing, i always think 00:33:230 (1) - will start from the other side. (Or maybe it's just me?) - could be you, I had playtests where no one stumbled upon that part

    I really liked this one :) - yay

pinataman

pinataman wrote:

[ktgster's Insane]

00:17:230 (1) – The hitnormal sounds a little too loud or intense for this section. Consider using a calmer hitsound to go with the calmer part of the song. - I just lowered the hitsound volume, there is no better sound suited for that part

00:18:000 (3,4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) – This pattern feels a little too intense for this part of the song. It rivals
00:14:769 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3) – and 00:52:923 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - , but the music at these parts are much much more intense. Consider making 00:18:461 (1) – and 00:18:922 (2) – each a ½ slider to go with the high-pitched guitar and give some much need rest to this pattern. - considering there is a rest for the vocals, the emphasis goes on the guitar strums which is what this pattern is doing. The examples you listed have bigger patterns and focus more on angles than this

00:33:230 (1) – The spacing into this feels a little too big, try moving this to 00:32:615 (3) - 's slider end instead of the head. - which causes poor overlapping and ruins the design. I moved the circle before it as it was in a bad position

00:35:538 (1,2) – Why choose to make a 1/1 break instead of filling it with ½ slider? If I had to guess, is it because of the shortened vocal here? If so, 00:36:000 (3) – doesn't fit with that. Since the shortened vocal is even more stressed, we should have a 1/1 break here as well by the logic above. If you want the 1/1 break, then delete 3, otherwise make (1) and (4) a ½ slider. - because theres no need for a 1/2 slider. Your example is not the same as circle (1) and that note is hitting a snare which a slider cannot produce the same effect as I have. The song is not simply vocals

00:51:692 (1,2,3,4) – The spacing here could be bigger and/or could use different spacing instead of one constant DS since the song really starts to pick up in energy here. This sets you up to increase the intensity of 00:52:923 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - , which I am in favor for because this part of the song is imo the most intense part of the first half of the song. - it is a buildup to lead to the next patterns which are more intense. Considering that the player just played a calm part, a sudden jump to jumps is not what I want.

00:54:153 (1,2,3) – These repetitive sliders start to build up a tension. A good release of that tension would be to make the jump into 00:55:076 (4,5,6) – a lot bigger (in addition to the faster rhythm you have with the ¼ ). - except this part is pretty much constant throughout. There is no need to increase the spacing especially since a lot of this map is very structured based.

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Neil Watts
TATOE

[General]
The hitsounding across all the maps is a bit weird imo, the claps are overused and inconsistent. It isn't bothering to play with though, I wonder if hitsounding can become a quality issue for ranking. Anyway, if you wanna change your hitsounding, learn to use the hitsound volume, which was the same during all maps I modded (http://puu.sh/jjWTc/9a1b5c2f1a.png), you can give a nice effect to your hitsounding with just changing the volume.
About the claps, just try to be consistent (generally, it works if you put a clap on every white tick).

Additional modding with AiBAT/quick checks:

Smoothie World's Extra
- 01:19:025 (1) - Very risky slider for ranking, don't take useless risks, make another slider
- No timing point for the kiai end (strictly unrankable)
- 00:17:023 - unsnapped green timing point

ktgster's Insane
-00:26:897 (6) - Unsnapped circle

toybot's Insane
00:51:692 (1) - 00:52:000 (2) - 00:52:461 (4) - 00:52:923 (1) - 00:53:230 (2) - Unsnapped end of sliders, there may be other cases


[Normal]
-00:06:153 (2) - This slider doesn't fit to the song. 00:04:923 (1) - It may sound better if you just put reverse arrows on this slider.
- 00:44:307 (1) - It would be nice if you shorten this slider a bit (4/2 -> 3/2)

[Walao's Advanced]
- 00:11:615 (3,5) - It would be nice to increase the space between these two, the distances are a bit short
- 00:15:076 (2,4) - Try something more fitting to the flow than these sliders without slider points ? I think this pattern would be a bit better, the (4) will follow the flow http://puu.sh/jjVUx/5ac6247e3a.jpg
- 00:17:692 (2,3) - You can improve the flow here, try a better use of slider points :P
- 00:22:461 (1) - This slider is too much curved imo
- 00:28:000 (3,1) - the claps are a bit overused imo, try to be consistent using claps
- 00:37:538 (2) - the normal hitsound at the end of this slider feels out of place
- 01:19:108 (1) - You should silence the end of this spinner
A lot of inconsistence in hitsounds (especially claps), you may have to recheck everything/remap the hitsounding.


[Hard]
- 00:18:461 (1,2) - A break in the gameplay feels weird here, mapping it would be nice
- 00:52:000 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This pattern feels a bit copypasted, it would be nice to arrange it

Good luck!
walaowey

jinhang_ang wrote:

Okay M4M request from t/274775/start=224

omg this diff list

So let me start.

[Walao's Advanced]
1. 00:52:923 (1,2,3) - The flow seems a little awkward. fixed it with my way, i leave (2) there and fix (3) instead
2. 01:18:858 (4,1) - I don't like that stack. It should have some cursor movement as second note is quite convincing for a jump (where it doesn't fit in an Advanced it should at least command some cursor movement) remove stacking.
thanks for the mod xD

Neil Watts wrote:

TATOE TAAATOOEEEEEE~~

[Walao's Advanced]
- 00:11:615 (3,5) - It would be nice to increase the space between these two, the distances are a bit short I'm not sure which one though..is it the slider (1)? . bcoz i cant see any note (5) there. if its the slider (1), then yeah, i add a little spacing there.
- 00:15:076 (2,4) - Try something more fitting to the flow than these sliders without slider points ? I think this pattern would be a bit better, the (4) will follow the flow http://puu.sh/jjVUx/5ac6247e3a.jpg fix (4) only
- 00:17:692 (2,3) - You can improve the flow here, try a better use of slider points :P fixed, hope its ok now >w<
- 00:22:461 (1) - This slider is too much curved imo fixed
- 00:28:000 (3,1) - the claps are a bit overused imo, try to be consistent using claps
- 00:37:538 (2) - the normal hitsound at the end of this slider feels out of place
- 01:19:108 (1) - You should silence the end of this spinner
A lot of inconsistence in hitsounds (especially claps), you may have to recheck everything/remap the hitsounding. about hitsounding..my diff hitsound was copied from monstrata tatoe diff lol :v.. so about hitsound, its better to ask monstrata xD

Good luck!
thanks for the mod xD

asdadadff
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: tatoe.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 6538
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.5
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.8

[Metadata]
Title:MIIRO
TitleUnicode:海色
Artist:AKINO from bless4
ArtistUnicode:AKINO from bless4
Creator:monstrata
Version:Walao's Advanced
Source:艦隊これくしょん -艦これ-
Tags:sukinathan ktgster pishifat smoothie world walaowey toybot sheela901 yuii- Sharkie みいろ miiro tv size opening kantai collection kancolle fleet girls magic kaito 1412 ai no scenario chico with honeyworks まじっく快斗1412
BeatmapID:724337
BeatmapSetID:325158

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:3.5
OverallDifficulty:5
ApproachRate:7
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"miiro_no_scenario.png",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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[Colours]
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Combo2 : 0,255,255
Combo3 : 128,0,255
Combo4 : 192,192,192

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Avena
delete this please
Zweib
Osu needs more TATOE MIIRO!

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Cherry Blossom
Hello, M4M from my queue.
Please, reply to this mod and tell me why you didn't change without saying "it's my style" or "there are already ranked maps with the same kind of pattern" or other reasons like this.

Ready to fight. OH LOL THIS REMIX AND BG.
I skipped Super/Ultra beginner diffs.

Yuistrata's Easy

  1. 00:18:307 (2) - This slider sounds weird, imo, it shouldn't really end on 00:18:923 - because you didn't follow this tick 00:18:461 - which is the same sound. Try to find a solution that avoids the inconsistency in rhythm.

Normal

  1. 00:09:076 (4) - Here you're following the melody, so this slider should end 00:09:384 - . Assume it was your intention because you didn't hitsound this tick 00:09:538 -
  2. 01:06:025 (1) - I don't really think a 1/2 gap between this zigzag slider and 01:07:358 (1) - is a good idea, this long slider could be stressful for beginners. And it could be better for them if you give some recovery time, so, you could make it shorter and end it here 01:07:025 - which is a downbeat more powerful than the red tick your followed.

Walao's Advanced

  1. 00:31:076 (2,3) - It could be better if you unstack them, QATs could be really annoying concerning different stacks on patterns. You just only stacked 1/2 objects, no 1/1 objects, so it could be better if you keep consistency with what you did before and after.

Hard

  1. Check aimod, you have unsnapped objects.
  2. 00:25:846 (1,2) - There should be more distance between these sliders because the gap is different (3/4 and 1/2) but the distance with objects is the same visually, and this could be a little misleading.

sheela's Very Hard

  1. 00:18:923 (2,3,4,1) - Here, the motion could be changed to be more comfortable to play, it looks more logical to have something like this instead, up to you to change :

Sharkie's Insane


  • Nothing important to mention.

toybot's Insane

  1. 00:56:692 - (timing points) they don't have the same sampleset and volume, fix that.

Nathan's Insane

  1. 00:13:538 (1,2,3,4) - This is a little weird to play, this shape looks irregular and a little ugly, and the player needs much aim to be able to play this pattern properly, i guess you want to make a triangle and then a jump between 00:13:846 (3,4) - ? A better solution could be a kind of trapeze instead

ktgster's Insane

  1. 00:22:000 (6,1,2) - This is really difficult to play, the antijump on a straight line is like flow breaking here and it was really difficult to handle. The player needs much aim to play this pattern correctly. Try something else with angles, and not a straight line here, or just, avoid this antijump or this long jump.

Extra

  1. 00:57:858 (1,2,3) - This is a little broken here because it is a straight motion with a different distance between 00:58:358 (2,3) - and 00:57:858 (1,2) - , it could be more comfortable to play if you move this circle 00:58:358 (2) - downward in order to make an angle, and make this pattern more comfortable to play.

Kyshiro's Extra


  • 00:08:615 (1,2) - they look too close compared to the whole map, when i testplayed it, I just hit this circle too early but i was enough accurate to get a 300 here. But this can be a little bothering for players. So there should be a little more distance between 00:08:615 (1,2) - .

Smoothie World's Extra

  1. 00:14:000 (2,3) - This isn't really a good idea to stack this circle on the sliderend here, because stacking an object = slowdown, and there is a difficult jump pattern after this stacked circle and that could be surprising or just more difficult to start the jump pattern because of this slowdown. Also, the motion between 00:14:461 (3,1,2,3,4) - is difficult because it is nearly straight and the distance between objects are not the same, so it could be better if you unstack this circle 00:14:461 (3) - from the sliderend.

pishi's Extra

  1. 00:24:769 (2) - Let's talk about "emphasis" (because people like to talk about this lol), I don't really understand why there is a different spacing between the previous and the next object, the intensity is the same here, and it looks/sounds wrong that there is a different distance. There should be the same distance between these objects.
  2. 00:34:076 - Difficult to judge, but there is nothing enough powerful on this tick (I said powerful. i can hear the drum's echo but i don't really find it enough powerful to be mapped), so, the circle you placed it sounds out of place. Not like 00:33:769 (4) - which is enough audible or 00:34:384 - too. There are enough emphasis on this part.

Tatoe

  1. 00:52:923 (1,2,3) - Here is missed when i was testplaying, after analyzing my replay, i concluded that there is too much distance between 00:53:076 (2,3) - and that makes this jump pattern a little too much difficult. It plays better if there is an equal distance between 00:53:076 (2,3) - and 00:52:923 (1,2) - because that won't force the player to do a larger motion here.
  2. 00:54:153 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This looks really overdone and QATs won't really approve this pattern. Note that 1/4 sliders are not really easy to handle and aim because there is something called "flow" and all directions are opposite and that make this pattern more difficult. And it does not really make sense.
    And same for 01:16:691 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -


Uuuh that was long.
Good luck ~
pishifat
SPOILER

Atsuro wrote:

[pishifat's Extra]
  1. 00:40:000 (3) - Remove whistle not really seeing why?
  2. 00:41:538 (3) - I think drum finish sounds better than whistle here. the custom whistle expresses the same bass thing as a drum finsh without being super loud so ya

UndeadCapulet wrote:

pishi's Extra

00:25:846 (1,2,3,4) - Personally I think stacking the circles underneath the sliderheads is making the slidertails seem really weak; since the player is cutting away from the tails via slider leniency, the full effect of lifting up on the tails is lost. If you stack the circles underneath the tails, I think the emphasis works out better. id want some sort of movement from slider to circle, whcih doesnt really happen when it's stacked on the tail. when stacked on the head tho it actually does (even if just barely)
00:41:538 (3,1) - Hmm, just an idea, but how about shifting these so they overlap, similar to 00:19:692 (1,2) - . It would make these two feel more connected by the quiet guitar strum in the background. (Something like this, with other objects rearranged accordingly, idk it'd be cool) overlapping stuff at different offsets is like antistructure. better to have them all the same (at least tahts what i think while doing stuff). there's also an overlap with 00:41:846 (1,3) - already so putting another object on that makes things super cramped
01:02:025 (1,2) - Maybe rework your NC's so they line up more with the vocals? Swapping NC would be better imo, it would be consistent with the NC's at 01:00:525 (1) - and 01:11:191 (1) - . Applies to all similar sections. yes

Fuccho wrote:

Pishi's Extra
  1. 00:09:692 (1) - Maybe remove the second white point, and move the second red point a bit to the right? i have really dumb aesthetic preferences ;-;
  2. 00:16:307 (3,4,5,6,7) - I feel like this is a bit too curved. I think it'd flow better if you straightened it out just a bit. very possible
  3. 00:26:256 (2,4) - I think it'd give a nice effect if you moved these two a bit out of the way. (2) a bit to the right and (4) a bit to the left or whatever floats your boat. awesome
  4. 00:32:000 (1) - Could you rotate this a bit clockwise and move it slightly closer to 00:31:692 (5) ? I think it'd look better. same
  5. That's it. The rest seems good.

pinataman wrote:

[pishi's Extra]

00:04:923 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) – please please please put strong hitsounds here. whistle spam B))))))

00:15:692 (3) – In the song, this note acts as a rest. The way you map it does not give enough rest to the player here. The effect of this is that you take away the exciting emphasis the song puts on 00:15:846 (4) - . So I would recommend reducing the spacing or changing the rhythm to be more restful at 00:15:692 (3) – to make the map more exciting. that idea is expressed through spacing already so ya

00:25:846 (1,2,3,4) – As far as spacing and rhythm goes, there isn't really a change to indicate a change of intensity between this and the previous section. If you were going for reducing the spacing/speed as a sign of increased intensity, the reduction in speed has to be very noticeable, which it really isn't here. Please increase the intensity here or in the past section of the music. what im trying to do is make the random 1/3 possibly readable, so using higher/lower slider velocities or spacing would just make things more difficult than intended

00:51:692 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This section uses repetition of the counterclockwise flow to build a tension. This tension is more a result of the singer using a near constant pitch. So from my perspective, the release of the tension is best suited when the singer changes her pitch (moving up to a major note), which occurs at 00:53:538 (1) - . Since you continue the counterclockwise flow, it feels like is missing that exciting punch and instead just feels repetitive. I would like to see a clockwise flow start on (1) to better represent that, for example: http://puu.sh/jhPWE/53b954ce93.jpg maybe it's just different interpretation or something but when the vocals stop being active at 00:54:153 (1) - is where i change it and that fits really well to me

01:18:525 (1,2,3) – Increasing the spacing here could give a more climactic ending to the map. (also fits better with pacing so that 00:51:692 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) – isn't the most intense part of the map (although it still would be, but this makes it less noticeable)). the end of the miiro section was supposed to be the most intense part of the map tho. as for spacing, increasing it goes against pitch stuff so rather not do that

Cherry Blossom wrote:

did both

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Artist:AKINO from bless4
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Source:艦隊これくしょん -艦これ-
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sheela
jinhang_ang

jinhang_ang wrote:

Okay M4M request from t/274775/start=224

Some diffs (Beginner and Easy) don't have any kiai which is quite strange..?

omg this diff list

So let me start.

[sheela's Very Hard]
1. 00:08:615 (1,2) - I see no reason to jump. However if you have your own reason and would like to keep it please tell me so that i can improve my modding skills :3 // I don't know too lol. I switched the head and tail to 00:08:615 (1) .
2. 00:25:846 (1,1) - Other diffs make this the same NC. Perhaps you would like to keep it for epicness though i don't know about your choice. // The new combo fits there because of the beats.
3. 00:54:769 (4) - I think a jump fits. Perhaps Ctrl+G? // Alright.

P/s: A great thanks for mappers that gave me feedback on my mod :) This is a really nice mapset and most of what i have written are just suggestions.
Thank you for the mod, jinhang_ang!

Cherry Blossom

Cherry Blossom wrote:

sheela's Very Hard

  1. 00:18:923 (2,3,4,1) - Here, the motion could be changed to be more comfortable to play, it looks more logical to have something like this instead, up to you to change : // It does make the flow better. Arranged similar to the screenshot.
Thanks for the mod, Cherry Blossom!

http://puu.sh/jrDTW/98c95ac04a.osu
Topic Starter
Monstrata

Cherry Blossom wrote:

Hello, M4M from my queue.
Please, reply to this mod and tell me why you didn't change without saying "it's my style" or "there are already ranked maps with the same kind of pattern" or other reasons like this.

Ready to fight. OH LOL THIS REMIX AND BG.
I skipped Super/Ultra beginner diffs.

Yuistrata's Easy

  1. 00:18:307 (2) - This slider sounds weird, imo, it shouldn't really end on 00:18:923 - because you didn't follow this tick 00:18:461 - which is the same sound. Try to find a solution that avoids the inconsistency in rhythm.A mistake on my end probably, sorry Yuii- lol. I extended the slider by 1/2 a beat because I think that's much more straightforward lol.

Normal

  1. 00:09:076 (4) - Here you're following the melody, so this slider should end 00:09:384 - . Assume it was your intention because you didn't hitsound this tick 00:09:538 - That was my bad. I hitsounded the tick instead xD. Keeping the slider as-is would be more consistent with the rhythm that I follow.
  2. 01:06:025 (1) - I don't really think a 1/2 gap between this zigzag slider and 01:07:358 (1) - is a good idea, this long slider could be stressful for beginners. And it could be better for them if you give some recovery time, so, you could make it shorter and end it here 01:07:025 - which is a downbeat more powerful than the red tick your followed.You're right. reduced the length of the slider to the downbeat you mentioned.

Hard

  1. Check aimod, you have unsnapped objects. lol fixed
  2. 00:25:846 (1,2) - There should be more distance between these sliders because the gap is different (3/4 and 1/2) but the distance with objects is the same visually, and this could be a little misleading.I actually think this is fine... The gap is actually 2/3 vs 1/2, not 3/4 and 1/2 since the sliders here are 2/3 repeats not 3/4's. I think this pattern, visually, is still straight forward. All clicks also occur on white ticks so players will still be "playing" to 1/1 rhythm.

Extra

  1. 00:57:858 (1,2,3) - This is a little broken here because it is a straight motion with a different distance between 00:58:358 (2,3) - and 00:57:858 (1,2) - , it could be more comfortable to play if you move this circle 00:58:358 (2) - downward in order to make an angle, and make this pattern more comfortable to play. You're right, I wanted to have a jump here, but the angle would be far too linear because players will naturally use slider leniency on slider 1 to play this pattern, but that ends up making the motion very linear. Fixed!

Tatoe

  1. 00:52:923 (1,2,3) - Here is missed when i was testplaying, after analyzing my replay, i concluded that there is too much distance between 00:53:076 (2,3) - and that makes this jump pattern a little too much difficult. It plays better if there is an equal distance between 00:53:076 (2,3) - and 00:52:923 (1,2) - because that won't force the player to do a larger motion here. I agree, I used this pattern before and people seemed to have trouble with it. I've completely remapped this pattern with uniform spacing in mind now. The jumps are just too big for players to appreciate minor changes in spacing so i'll keep those for smaller jump patterns.
  2. 00:54:153 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This looks really overdone and QATs won't really approve this pattern. Note that 1/4 sliders are not really easy to handle and aim because there is something called "flow" and all directions are opposite and that make this pattern more difficult. And it does not really make sense. My thought process when making these kick-slider jumps was that because slider-heads are much easier to acc than circles due to the hit leniency on sliders, even though this pattern is difficult to aim, it will be easy to play. Nonetheless, after changing up the pattern you mentioned before, I decided to remake this pattern as well. Funny how turning the kick-sliders into circles ended up buffing the diff to over 6 stars.
    And same for 01:16:691 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I would like to keep this pattern if possible though. I think the slider-spam works well here because lower bpm, and there are also less jumps leading into the pattern so I think the whole jump sequence as a whole won't be over-done unlike the miiro one (which had 25 jumps in a row lol).


Uuuh that was long.
Good luck ~
Thanks CB!

Also, updated everyone's diffs (so far).
Topic Starter
Monstrata
Fixed the tags/source/title for you sheela~
sheela

monstrata wrote:

Fixed the tags/source/title for you sheela~
Oh thanks! Weirdly, the unicode characters turn into bizarre characters when I update.
Topic Starter
Monstrata
Updated all diffs again, with a new set of custon hitsounds. Actually these were the original hitsounds Yuii- used when he did the hitsounding, I just didn't import the custom hitsounds in cuz im stupid lol.

[Spread Balancing]
Here's the proposed difficulty-settings balance for every diff. Please let me know if you have any objections. Most of the values are just small decimal movements anyways, they are done to accomodate the amount of Insane/Extra's in the set. Anything that requires an over 1.0 change has been bolded. Everything else should be minor. I will apply all these changes after all GD'ers have responded to all mods. Feel free to apply them yourself though <3

Tatoe: HP 6.5 | AR 9.5 | OD 9
pishi's Extra: HP 6.1 | AR 9.4 | OD 8.9
Smoothie World's Extra: HP6 | AR 9.3 | OD 8.8
Kyshiro's Extra: HP 6 | AR 9.2 | OD 8.7
Extra: HP 6 | AR 9.1 | OD 8.6
ktgster's Insane: HP 5.8 | AR 9 | OD 8.4
Nathan's Insane: HP 5.5 | AR 9 | OD 8
toybot's Insane: HP 5.5 | AR 8.7 | OD 7.5
Sharkie's Insane: HP 5.5 | AR 8.5 | OD 7
sheela's Very Hard: HP 5.5 | AR 8 | OD 6.5
Hard: HP 5 | AR 7.3 | OD 6
Walao's Advanced: HP 4.5 | AR 6.8 | OD 5.3
Normal: HP 4 | AR 5.5 | OD 4.5
Yuistrata's Easy: HP 3 | AR 3.5 | OD 3
Beginner: HP 2 | AR 2 | OD 2
Super Beginner: HP 1 | AR1 | OD 1
Ultra Beginner: HP 0 | AR 0 | OD 0.


[Tatoe]

Wow! I have nothing to say, this diff is amazing!

[pishi's Extra]

No complaints here too!

[Smoothie World's Extra]

Tbh, Tick-rate 1 is better for this song.
00:14:000 (2,3) - Hmm, I guess this works... but imo putting a jump would be better for the drum. Up to you~
00:17:000 - Snap this green line?
00:48:000 (6) - I think NC'ing every measure would be better, since the drums pick up again after the slow section.
00:50:461 (6) - NC here too?
01:01:025 (2,3) - This jump didn't make tooo much sense for me because 3 isn't really a strong note.

[Kyshiro's Extra]

00:55:076 (4,5,6) - I think you could move this triplet up a bit to make it a bit more of a jump from 3.

[Extra]

Remap please.

[ktgster's Insane]

00:18:000 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Even for me, this is a surprising amount of single tapping for a section that's supposed to be calmer/less intense.
00:26:897 (6) - Are you trying to get this set DQ'ed??~!?
00:32:615 (3,4,5,1) - This was really difficult to read cuz of the overlap...

[Nathan's Insane]

Good job!

[toybot's Insane]

00:51:692 - You ahve a bunch of unsnapped sliders here, can you fix them?

[Sharkie's Insane]

Check AIMod~
00:03:384 (4,1) - Mind rotating slider 1 just like a few degrees to avoid that overlap with 4's head?
01:00:525 (5,6,1) - I much prefer if you used automatic stacking. But if not, can you fix this? If you notice, 5>6 is 0.10x spacing but 6>1 is 0.15x spacing so it looks a bit weird in gameplay because they aren't the same distance.
01:03:191 (5,6,1) - Here too. I think you should stick with 0.15x. It looks cool without making the circles all crammed. Also, the majority of your triplets follow 0.15x anyways.
01:08:191 (4,5,6) - Same here, mind just making it 0.15x?

[sheela's Very Hard]

00:12:153 (1,2) - Wouldn't hurt to blanket this. Up to you ;o.

Other than that, really clean mapping!

[Hard]

Tatoe

[Walao's Advanced]

00:02:153 (3,1,1) - How come these 3 sliders use 1.0x SV when 00:01:538 (2) - is 0.75 :S
00:25:846 (1,2) - Mind making these flow a bit better into each other?
00:48:615 (3) - Any way you can make this a 1/2 repeat slider instead to map 00:48:615 (3) - ?
01:06:525 (3,4) - Not really great to have these 1/2 sliders begin on red ticks.
01:15:858 - Nice piano sound you could have mapped~

[Everything Else]

Tatoe
ktgster
Cherry Blossom

Cherry Blossom wrote:

ktgster's Insane

  1. 00:22:000 (6,1,2) - This is really difficult to play, the antijump on a straight line is like flow breaking here and it was really difficult to handle. The player needs much aim to play this pattern correctly. Try something else with angles, and not a straight line here, or just, avoid this antijump or this long jump. - stacked

HI SUBMITTER

monstrata wrote:

[ktgster's Insane]

00:18:000 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Even for me, this is a surprising amount of single tapping for a section that's supposed to be calmer/less intense. - k made it simpler
00:26:897 (6) - Are you trying to get this set DQ'ed??~!? - maybe :)
00:32:615 (3,4,5,1) - This was really difficult to read cuz of the overlap... - fixed

the map
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Also add difficulty settings.
pishifat
those hitsounds uhhhhh maybe dont

some qat on a different map wrote:

Remove dripping and slurping hitsounds at all (all hitnormals), as they don't fit the clear tune music provides. What made you think using hitsounds from popular skins is a good idea?
the oriental bamboo something hitsound would probably be included too
walaowey

Cherry Blossom wrote:

Hello, M4M from my queue.
Please, reply to this mod and tell me why you didn't change without saying "it's my style" or "there are already ranked maps with the same kind of pattern" or other reasons like this.

Walao's Advanced

  1. 00:31:076 (2,3) - It could be better if you unstack them, QATs could be really annoying concerning different stacks on patterns. You just only stacked 1/2 objects, no 1/1 objects, so it could be better if you keep consistency with what you did before and after. fixed

Uuuh that was long.
Good luck ~
Thanks for the mod xD

monstrata wrote:

Updated all diffs again, with a new set of custon hitsounds. Actually these were the original hitsounds Yuii- used when he did the hitsounding, I just didn't import the custom hitsounds in cuz im stupid lol.

[Walao's Advanced]

00:02:153 (3,1,1) - How come these 3 sliders use 1.0x SV when 00:01:538 (2) - is 0.75 :S lol , didnt notice this xDD, fixed anyway
00:25:846 (1,2) - Mind making these flow a bit better into each other? fixed
00:48:615 (3) - Any way you can make this a 1/2 repeat slider instead to map 00:48:615 (3) - ? I wont add it for now lol, it increases the star rating a lot lol
01:06:525 (3,4) - Not really great to have these 1/2 sliders begin on red ticks. fixed
01:15:858 - Nice piano sound you could have mapped~ yeah, you're right, I've mapped it now xD
Thanks for the mod xD

sdasfaff
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: tatoe.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 6538
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.8

[Metadata]
Title:MIIRO
TitleUnicode:海色
Artist:AKINO from bless4
ArtistUnicode:AKINO from bless4
Creator:monstrata
Version:Walao's Advanced
Source:艦隊これくしょん -艦これ-
Tags:sukinathan ktgster pishifat smoothie world walaowey toybot sheela901 yuii- Sharkie みいろ miiro tv size opening kantai collection kancolle fleet girls magic kaito 1412 ai no scenario chico with honeyworks まじっく快斗1412
BeatmapID:724337
BeatmapSetID:325158

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:3.5
OverallDifficulty:5
ApproachRate:7
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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toybot
fixed all except from jinhang_ang's, i really like how the pattern builds up with the triangle and i feel it'd kinda mess it up

thanks!

https://0paste.tk/7770.txt
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Topic Starter
Monstrata
Thanks Xilver :D

Alright all diffs updated. W'ere just waiting on Sharkie and Kyshiro now lol.
HabiHolic
[Ultra Beginner]

OMG Very slow SV...

00:25:846 - The finish is so awkward Delete.
01:19:025 - Note here?

[Super Beginner]

00:51:846 (1) - Spiner Finish 00:55:230 - here.
01:02:025 (1) - 01:07:358 (1) - 01:12:691 (1) - Head add finish better.
01:19:025 - Note.

[Extra]

00:55:692 (1) - Please lower the volume. Maybe 30% is appropriate.

Call me.
sheela
@monstrata: Thanks for the mod! I applied the HP and blanket things.
sheela's Very Hard
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Topic Starter
Monstrata

HabiHolic wrote:

[Ultra Beginner]

OMG Very slow SV...

00:25:846 - The finish is so awkward Delete. k
01:19:025 - Note here? I prefer not to. Just to keep it easy xD. Also the rhythm is 3/1 which is too fast (lol) because i'm using 4/1 rhythm on this difficulty.

[Super Beginner]

00:51:846 (1) - Spiner Finish 00:55:230 - here. oooo ya thanks
01:02:025 (1) - 01:07:358 (1) - 01:12:691 (1) - Head add finish better. yaaa okay added all
01:19:025 - Note. same as ultra beginner, prefer not to D:

[Extra]

00:55:692 (1) - Please lower the volume. Maybe 30% is appropriate. I think this is fine. besides, the HS volume is copied onto almost every difficulty.

Call me.
thanks Habi <3
HabiHolic
Bubbled
Topic Starter
Monstrata
Thanks again Habi :D.
[Shiny]
The spread in this TATOE is real
Bara-
Wow
Seriously bubbled
Niceee
Prepare for the easiest difficulty ever ranked
Topic Starter
Monstrata
get your osu! drills ready! #1 on that Ultra Beginner is literally spin to win xD.
meii18

monstrata wrote:

get your osu! drills ready! #1 on that Ultra Beginner is literally spin to win xD.
╭( ・ㅂ・)و
Frim4503
i will try to get "D" on that ultra begeniner :)
A Mystery
Tatoe: 00:08:923 (2) - clap
00:28:461 (2) - ^slider end


no kds, just fix pls
Topic Starter
Monstrata
Its going to be harder to get a D than an S on Ultra beginner lol.

A Mystery - thanks, will apply when next BN comes around (tmr hopefully)
Bara-
Why?
Just let go of all sliders (early) and they'll be seen as 100
walaowey
I've train my finger to singletap your tatoe 8-)

btw, 00:12:615 (2,1) - blanket this two properly :P

Edit : Its in Hard diff, my mistake xDD
Seijiro
Rofl

Great idea ahahahahahaha
Frim4503
pop this pls
the lowest diff is too hard for newbie player like me
the SV is too fast and i cant play it properly

Milan-
popped cuz Frim4503 cant play the lowest difficulty

general
-add kyshiro to tags
-normal-hitclap57.wav and soft-hitclap2.wav has some weird delay, it may be rankable but weird since the wave start after 0.005
-u said you used mp3 from ranked version and mixed them on an music program. You should be able to get a 192kbps version if the other 2 mp3 are 192 as well. In case u used audacity

tatoe
-00:06:769 (1) - you may want to use soft samp on tail too xd
-00:25:846 (1,2) - what you did on extra is funnier ;w; and since this is the hardest diff would be cool if change it to a more harder pattern
-Also the finish on 00:26:461 (2) - head is so annoying to hear on this pattern. You could have used another kind of hitsound such as normal samp to give the same effect but sound better.
-00:27:076 - from here you decided to use clap only on the 4th beat, which doesn't sound too good imo. 2-4 sounds better as it matches the bgm of the song in additon that you already used that pattern at the beginning and this part is basically the same.
-00:49:076 (7) - should add finish. Since you used one here 00:48:769 (5) - which is the same sound and even more prominent.
-00:57:858 (1) - this is the only 1/1 on the kiai even tho there are similar spots where you used 1/2 rhythms like 01:00:525 (1,2) - or even 01:13:858 (6,1) - . You should use 1/2 on this one as well. it doesnt sound very well as 1/1 xd
-01:06:775 (7) - pretty much overmap to me. There' nothing worth here
-01:07:358 (1) - finish sounds cool here. same 01:12:691 (1) - 01:02:025 (1) - and maybe others
-would be nice if you add a silenced sliderslide. Those slow parts are so annoying right now. Specially in lower diffs

sw extra
-00:16:923 (1) - soft samp on tail ty
-00:29:384 (5,1) - you could ctrl+g this rhythm in order to follow vocals better if you want
-00:35:384 (9,1) - flow here isn't too good. You change between clockwise and anti clockwise from 00:34:461 (3) - in a not so confortable way. Try doing something like this http://puu.sh/jzL0J/eee337b0c5.jpg or just rotating (1) so the slider body feels more natural to play
-00:37:384 - i'd add a note here, you can hear vocals starting from this point.
-00:48:769 (5) - tail should really be clickable it's a really strong beat. Try using 1/2 slider and circle instead.
-00:51:230 (5) - 00:53:692 (6) - these should be changed too, mostly cuz you ignore drums and also kills the momentum of this section ;w;
-01:06:274 (5) - the beat you're trying to map here is way to weak. I really suggest you to remove it
-01:08:025 (3,4) - similar to before, ctrl g'ng makes the rhythm sound better. vocals are more prominent here 01:08:358 -
-01:17:691 (7) - i suggest you using just 1/2 here. using extended slider feels so not-natural when the music is on its peak.
-01:19:025 (1) -

RC wrote:

Every slider must have a clear and visible path to follow from start to end. Sliders which overlap themselves in a way that makes any section unreadable or ambiguous (including "burai sliders") cannot be used. This is so that no slider has an appearance that is confusing or impossible for the player to read. Additionally, the slider borders must never be covered up from the slider being packed in too tightly. However, sliders that cross over themselves are fine as long as the borders are clearly visible.
just dont go around a unclear border. like this clear is better (altho a bit excessive example..)

kyshiro ex
-the way you map makes me think you follow vocals mostly. So why do you ignore 00:49:384 - ?:w:
-01:06:025 (1) - add finish?
-01:09:525 (4,5,1) - you should distance 5-1 more than 4-5 for proper emphasis

extra
-00:17:692 (2) - uhh why do you ignore 00:18:000 - . You should map it for vocals and guitar too. Same with 00:21:076 (1) -
-00:23:230 (4,1,3) - NCs?
-00:26:871 (1,1) - i'd try to place them on a more natural way. If you move 00:27:076 (1) - to somewhere else like x384y251 feels much better imo
-01:02:025 (1) - try moving more apart from 01:01:858 (5) - cuz the clear cymbal there
-01:06:025 (1) - ^
-01:06:774 (7) - same as tatoe. It's a really weak sound you're trying to map...
-01:11:191 (6,1,2) - try to follow vocals as the rest of the map? ctrl g'ng the rhythm should do it
-01:19:025 (1) - would be cool if this note was farther apart. Just to give like a dramatic ending xd

ktgster
-00:09:538 (5,1) - move 1 more apart. It's a really strong beat which should be emphased by distance aswell. Same on these spots 00:31:384 (5,6,7,1) - 00:46:461 (3,1) - 01:01:858 (5,1) - 01:12:525 (5,1) -
-00:26:897 (6) - snap properly
-00:36:000 (3) - this pattern would play better without this note. Following just vocals feels better

toybot
-01:01:525 (4,5) - sounds much better if u ctrl g.. the sound here 01:01:858 - is somewhat stronger than the others imo. in addition that covers vocals better
-01:19:191 (1) - you could've started it 1/4 earlier if that matters something to you xd

sharkie
-00:03:384 (4) - this should end on 1/2. Both, vocals and instruments end on that spot. There's no real reason to use extended slider, in addition that this whole spacing 00:02:769 (2,3,4,1) - is confusing due to it.
-00:25:846 (1,2) - what you're trying to map should be snapped in 1/3. Not 1/4... Even if you tried to map vocals they are in 1/2.
-00:28:153 (4,1,2) - try using offbeat sliders instead to cover vocals much better, which is the only thing that stand out here
-00:29:538 (1,2) - here you could try using this for example http://puu.sh/jzPdu/2fa2cf840a.jpg
-01:08:275 (5) - 01:09:608 (5) - this is just overmap. There's nothing worth to map there
-01:17:858 (7,1) - if you check the whole map, you dont use high distance on jumps, except here. Just use 2.0x ~ and will be fine.

sheela
-hs.. copy again lmao

hard
-00:08:615 (1) - 00:13:538 (1) - you could use 1/1 + circle instead. It sounds a bit weird now
-00:17:692 (2,3) - space these more. Auto-stack make it look not so good. Similar here 00:25:692 (4) -
-00:48:615 (3,4) - try using ctrl g.. you ignore 00:48:769 - which is a really important beat...
-00:49:846 (3) - this could be 1/1. 01:06:025 (5) - this too. 01:15:858 (6) - too, so there isn't too much 1/2 spam
-01:11:358 (5) - this sounds bad.. like not mapping something in concrete. Try using offbeat maybe http://puu.sh/jzQ8C/9a0cc7bc4d.jpg

walao
-00:11:538 (2) - you may want to move it somewhere else like x432y283: looks and plays better
-00:21:846 (6,1) - i dont agree with the distance used here. Your map is mostly constant and this just make everything a bit harder to read.
-00:36:461 (4) - the way that the red nodes are set makes the slider move weirdly and slowdown it a bit. It would be really nice if you make it less sharp
-00:39:384 (1,1) - i just u wanted to stack
-01:02:024 (1,2,3) - try something like this? http://puu.sh/jzQAs/65d639ac4f.jpg sounds much better . similar for 01:03:359 (1,2,3) - 01:12:692 (1,2,3) - 01:14:025 (1,2,3) -
-01:19:108 (1) - your diff is the only one that finish on that spot xd others finish at 01:20:691 - . Not really necessary to change i guess, but weird and lonely it is.

normal
-00:14:307 (5) - try 1/2 repeat? i feel like the beat at 00:14:461 - is part of the melody you're trying to map, and ignoring it is a bit weird
-00:15:384 (2,3) - this sounds more like this tbh http://puu.sh/jzQQ8/3c75a3cb9e.jpg
-00:17:230 (1,2,1,2) - not sure what you're trying to map here.. specially when you do more dense rhythm afterwards for similar music. Try mapping vocal here too, not ignoring 00:18:307 - for example.
-00:48:769 - dont ignore this beat? ;w;

easy
-00:14:769 (1,2) - this makes more sense http://puu.sh/jzR7K/01c3b711d6.jpg
-00:35:538 (2,3) - http://puu.sh/jzRhf/87086f6490.jpg or whatever that maps 00:36:153 - . In addition, don't use different kind of stacking at this level.
-00:48:615 (1,2,3) - http://puu.sh/jzRnf/027b838ecd.jpg downbeat isn't relevant here
-00:51:076 (1) - this newcombo feels lonely ):
-00:52:923 (2) - i'd extend it 1/2 more to cover drums and vocals more properly
-01:06:358 (3,4) - fix stack
-i'd prefer if you avoid using stacks so often at this level but hummm

beginner and super beg
-the idea when you map beginners is be extremely friendly to new players, thus using overlaps as often as these map use them should be avoided. Check lanturn's diff if you need an example, like here http://osu.ppy.sh/b/693911
Topic Starter
Monstrata

Milan- wrote:

popped cuz Frim4503 cant play the lowest difficulty

general
-add kyshiro to tags ok
-normal-hitclap57.wav and soft-hitclap2.wav has some weird delay, it may be rankable but weird since the wave start after 0.005 I can fix them if pishi and ktgster don't have a better version they want to use
-u said you used mp3 from ranked version and mixed them on an music program. You should be able to get a 192kbps version if the other 2 mp3 are 192 as well. oh let me try. In case u used audacity

tatoe
-00:06:769 (1) - you may want to use soft samp on tail too xd k
-00:25:846 (1,2) - what you did on extra is funnier ;w; and since this is the hardest diff would be cool if change it to a more harder pattern okay made it harder lol
-Also the finish on 00:26:461 (2) - head is so annoying to hear on this pattern. You could have used another kind of hitsound such as normal samp to give the same effect but sound better.okay changed to normal sampleset and got rid of the whistle+finish
-00:27:076 - from here you decided to use clap only on the 4th beat, which doesn't sound too good imo. 2-4 sounds better as it matches the bgm of the song in additon that you already used that pattern at the beginning and this part is basically the same. yea made them claps instead
-00:49:076 (7) - should add finish. Since you used one here 00:48:769 (5) - which is the same sound and even more prominent. k added
-00:57:858 (1) - this is the only 1/1 on the kiai even tho there are similar spots where you used 1/2 rhythms like 01:00:525 (1,2) - or even 01:13:858 (6,1) - . You should use 1/2 on this one as well. it doesnt sound very well as 1/1 xd I think this is fine, i use a tonne of 1/2 rhythm so a break is nice to also add some variety
-01:06:775 (7) - pretty much overmap to me. There' nothing worth here i think its fine, the stream pattern is very straightforward and it fits very well with the rest of the streams. its not one of those toxic and unnecessary overmaps anyways xD
-01:07:358 (1) - finish sounds cool here. same 01:12:691 (1) - 01:02:025 (1) - and maybe others yep yep. added them and a few more.
-would be nice if you add a silenced sliderslide. Those slow parts are so annoying right now. Specially in lower diffs true. okay i'll convert all the samplesets to NC:1/SC:1 and add the silent slidersliderslides

extra
-00:17:692 (2) - uhh why do you ignore 00:18:000 - . You should map it for vocals and guitar too. Same with 00:21:076 (1) - Okay change id for the first slider, but keeping the second cuz i at least map the red tick to the note. i think it still functions well even if its undermapped.
-00:23:230 (4,1,3) - NCs? fixed
-00:26:871 (1,1) - i'd try to place them on a more natural way. If you move 00:27:076 (1) - to somewhere else like x384y251 feels much better imo alright since other ppl also complained about it xD moved to a similar place.
-01:02:025 (1) - try moving more apart from 01:01:858 (5) - cuz the clear cymbal there I moved 5 instead.
-01:06:025 (1) - ^ this one's fine imo cuz of the pattern im going for.
-01:06:774 (7) - same as tatoe. It's a really weak sound you're trying to map... ehh ya, but its a straightforward pattern imo
-01:11:191 (6,1,2) - try to follow vocals as the rest of the map? ctrl g'ng the rhythm should do it i prefer the current rhythm, its more straightforward, and vocals are still supported with the circles.
-01:19:025 (1) - would be cool if this note was farther apart. Just to give like a dramatic ending xd bbbut the squares D:. ahh i think its fine lol.


sharkie
-00:03:384 (4) - this should end on 1/2. Both, vocals and instruments end on that spot. There's no real reason to use extended slider, in addition that this whole spacing 00:02:769 (2,3,4,1) - is confusing due to it. Okay shortened it.
-00:25:846 (1,2) - what you're trying to map should be snapped in 1/3. Not 1/4... Even if you tried to map vocals they are in 1/2. fixed
-00:28:153 (4,1,2) - try using offbeat sliders instead to cover vocals much better, which is the only thing that stand out here Tbh i quite like this pattern, i think it's fine
-00:29:538 (1,2) - here you could try using this for example http://puu.sh/jzPdu/2fa2cf840a.jpg alright, changed it here since theres an available pattern using that rhythm that won't really change the arrangement Sharkie already made here
-01:08:275 (5) - 01:09:608 (5) - this is just overmap. There's nothing worth to map there they're fine imo, but i will double check with sharkie if he's available
-01:17:858 (7,1) - if you check the whole map, you dont use high distance on jumps, except here. Just use 2.0x ~ and will be fine. I nerfed it slightly, 2.30 now down from 2.8

sheela
-hs.. copy again lmao I'll take care of them~ sry sheela

hard
-00:08:615 (1) - 00:13:538 (1) - you could use 1/1 + circle instead. It sounds a bit weird now cool
-00:17:692 (2,3) - space these more. Auto-stack make it look not so good. Similar here 00:25:692 (4) - ok fixed
-00:48:615 (3,4) - try using ctrl g.. you ignore 00:48:769 - which is a really important beat... idk, i feel this is fine honestly lol. its not that important to me xD
-00:49:846 (3) - this could be 1/1. 01:06:025 (5) - this too. 01:15:858 (6) - too, so there isn't too much 1/2 spam i think theyre fine honestly D: the last one especially, is separated by circles so its not really 1/2 slider spam at least.
-01:11:358 (5) - this sounds bad.. like not mapping something in concrete. Try using offbeat maybe http://puu.sh/jzQ8C/9a0cc7bc4d.jpg did something else, but ya, made this a lot better lol.

normal
-00:14:307 (5) - try 1/2 repeat? i feel like the beat at 00:14:461 - is part of the melody you're trying to map, and ignoring it is a bit weirdI think red anchors map it well too.
-00:15:384 (2,3) - this sounds more like this tbh http://puu.sh/jzQQ8/3c75a3cb9e.jpg plays fine for me D:
-00:17:230 (1,2,1,2) - not sure what you're trying to map here.. specially when you do more dense rhythm afterwards for similar music. Try mapping vocal following the piano mostly, and metronome lol. i just want an easier rhythm for the first half of this pattern, transitioning to a more complex rhythm for the second half. here too, not ignoring 00:18:307 - for example.
-00:48:769 - dont ignore this beat? ;w; ;w; but i ignore them a lot :C i think its fine lol. tbh i'm setting up the rhythm so it reflects 00:51:076 (4) - later on.

easy
-00:14:769 (1,2) - this makes more sense http://puu.sh/jzR7K/01c3b711d6.jpg okay did that
-00:35:538 (2,3) - http://puu.sh/jzRhf/87086f6490.jpg or whatever that maps 00:36:153 - . In addition, don't use different kind of stacking at this level. removed the stacks
-00:48:615 (1,2,3) - http://puu.sh/jzRnf/027b838ecd.jpg downbeat isn't relevant here feels fine imo...
-00:51:076 (1) - this newcombo feels lonely ): fixed ncm also did some nc rework on the kiai section
-00:52:923 (2) - i'd extend it 1/2 more to cover drums and vocals more properly sure
-01:06:358 (3,4) - fix stack redid this part
-i'd prefer if you avoid using stacks so often at this level but hummm yea i actually really agree with this. it's one of the things that concerned me about this diff. i've redid almost all the stacking on the diffs. there are only 3 instances of stacking now, and i believe they make sense to the player since they now follow a NC

beginner and super beg
-the idea when you map beginners is be extremely friendly to new players, thus using overlaps as often as these map use them should be avoided. Check lanturn's diff if you need an example, like here http://osu.ppy.sh/b/693911
alright, lets wait for the other gd'ers
pishifat

monstrata wrote:

-normal-hitclap57.wav and soft-hitclap2.wav has some weird delay, it may be rankable but weird since the wave start after 0.005 I can fix them if pishi and ktgster don't have a better version they want to use
my diff doesn't use either of those so wha

also changed some new combozzzzz
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150,318,78192,1,2,0:0:0:0:
321,345,78359,1,2,0:0:0:0:
273,88,78525,5,12,0:0:0:0:
183,214,78691,1,2,0:0:0:0:
326,236,78858,1,2,0:0:0:0:
284,8,79025,5,12,0:0:0:0:
256,192,79108,12,4,80691,0:3:0:0:
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Monstrata
o derp. must be kyshiro then. i remember you used some custom hitsounds with 56 or 57 at the end lol

Edited out the delay on the hitsounds. theyre definitely rankable now~ please redownload for them thnx.
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