AKINO from bless4 & CHiCO with HoneyWorks - MIIRO vs. Ai no

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ghm12
I don't think using white or light color is a good idea. At least I can't see the white notes that well when I'm playing. Maybe it's better changing it?
no kds isnt even a mod
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Monstrata
Hmm... I'll get some more opinions. I can definitely change it to something else though! Thanks
ktgster

VINXIS wrote:

  1. 00:18:000 (3,4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - rANDOM JUMPZqa. Anyway the problem is spacing emphasis and combo i ng. If you're mapping the guitar strums for emphasis the ncs sud actualyl b on 00:18:922 (1,1) - and not wot u hav rn. it looks random with ur way and unjustified or w./e OK - wut
  2. 00:25:846 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - space thes ese out mo r e it looks weird 4 them 2 be so close wen u had 1/2 spacing much larger than dis b4444 - I thnk is fine, s0ng is pretty calm n is cn't be tht hrd
  3. lol @ ending

Atsuro wrote:

[ktgster's Insane]
  1. 00:17:230 (1) - The drum normals don't really fit here imo, they are too loud. Lower the volume or change them. - lowered volume
  2. 00:32:615 (3,4,5,1) - This pattern is a bit confusing, i always think 00:33:230 (1) - will start from the other side. (Or maybe it's just me?) - could be you, I had playtests where no one stumbled upon that part

    I really liked this one :) - yay

pinataman wrote:

[ktgster's Insane]

00:17:230 (1) – The hitnormal sounds a little too loud or intense for this section. Consider using a calmer hitsound to go with the calmer part of the song. - I just lowered the hitsound volume, there is no better sound suited for that part

00:18:000 (3,4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) – This pattern feels a little too intense for this part of the song. It rivals
00:14:769 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3) – and 00:52:923 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - , but the music at these parts are much much more intense. Consider making 00:18:461 (1) – and 00:18:922 (2) – each a ½ slider to go with the high-pitched guitar and give some much need rest to this pattern. - considering there is a rest for the vocals, the emphasis goes on the guitar strums which is what this pattern is doing. The examples you listed have bigger patterns and focus more on angles than this

00:33:230 (1) – The spacing into this feels a little too big, try moving this to 00:32:615 (3) - 's slider end instead of the head. - which causes poor overlapping and ruins the design. I moved the circle before it as it was in a bad position

00:35:538 (1,2) – Why choose to make a 1/1 break instead of filling it with ½ slider? If I had to guess, is it because of the shortened vocal here? If so, 00:36:000 (3) – doesn't fit with that. Since the shortened vocal is even more stressed, we should have a 1/1 break here as well by the logic above. If you want the 1/1 break, then delete 3, otherwise make (1) and (4) a ½ slider. - because theres no need for a 1/2 slider. Your example is not the same as circle (1) and that note is hitting a snare which a slider cannot produce the same effect as I have. The song is not simply vocals

00:51:692 (1,2,3,4) – The spacing here could be bigger and/or could use different spacing instead of one constant DS since the song really starts to pick up in energy here. This sets you up to increase the intensity of 00:52:923 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - , which I am in favor for because this part of the song is imo the most intense part of the first half of the song. - it is a buildup to lead to the next patterns which are more intense. Considering that the player just played a calm part, a sudden jump to jumps is not what I want.

00:54:153 (1,2,3) – These repetitive sliders start to build up a tension. A good release of that tension would be to make the jump into 00:55:076 (4,5,6) – a lot bigger (in addition to the faster rhythm you have with the ¼ ). - except this part is pretty much constant throughout. There is no need to increase the spacing especially since a lot of this map is very structured based.
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Neil Watts
TATOE

[General]
The hitsounding across all the maps is a bit weird imo, the claps are overused and inconsistent. It isn't bothering to play with though, I wonder if hitsounding can become a quality issue for ranking. Anyway, if you wanna change your hitsounding, learn to use the hitsound volume, which was the same during all maps I modded (http://puu.sh/jjWTc/9a1b5c2f1a.png), you can give a nice effect to your hitsounding with just changing the volume.
About the claps, just try to be consistent (generally, it works if you put a clap on every white tick).

Additional modding with AiBAT/quick checks:

Smoothie World's Extra
- 01:19:025 (1) - Very risky slider for ranking, don't take useless risks, make another slider
- No timing point for the kiai end (strictly unrankable)
- 00:17:023 - unsnapped green timing point

ktgster's Insane
-00:26:897 (6) - Unsnapped circle

toybot's Insane
00:51:692 (1) - 00:52:000 (2) - 00:52:461 (4) - 00:52:923 (1) - 00:53:230 (2) - Unsnapped end of sliders, there may be other cases


[Normal]
-00:06:153 (2) - This slider doesn't fit to the song. 00:04:923 (1) - It may sound better if you just put reverse arrows on this slider.
- 00:44:307 (1) - It would be nice if you shorten this slider a bit (4/2 -> 3/2)

[Walao's Advanced]
- 00:11:615 (3,5) - It would be nice to increase the space between these two, the distances are a bit short
- 00:15:076 (2,4) - Try something more fitting to the flow than these sliders without slider points ? I think this pattern would be a bit better, the (4) will follow the flow http://puu.sh/jjVUx/5ac6247e3a.jpg
- 00:17:692 (2,3) - You can improve the flow here, try a better use of slider points :P
- 00:22:461 (1) - This slider is too much curved imo
- 00:28:000 (3,1) - the claps are a bit overused imo, try to be consistent using claps
- 00:37:538 (2) - the normal hitsound at the end of this slider feels out of place
- 01:19:108 (1) - You should silence the end of this spinner
A lot of inconsistence in hitsounds (especially claps), you may have to recheck everything/remap the hitsounding.


[Hard]
- 00:18:461 (1,2) - A break in the gameplay feels weird here, mapping it would be nice
- 00:52:000 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This pattern feels a bit copypasted, it would be nice to arrange it

Good luck!
walaowey

jinhang_ang wrote:

Okay M4M request from t/274775/start=224

omg this diff list

So let me start.

[Walao's Advanced]
1. 00:52:923 (1,2,3) - The flow seems a little awkward. fixed it with my way, i leave (2) there and fix (3) instead
2. 01:18:858 (4,1) - I don't like that stack. It should have some cursor movement as second note is quite convincing for a jump (where it doesn't fit in an Advanced it should at least command some cursor movement) remove stacking.
thanks for the mod xD

Neil Watts wrote:

TATOE TAAATOOEEEEEE~~

[Walao's Advanced]
- 00:11:615 (3,5) - It would be nice to increase the space between these two, the distances are a bit short I'm not sure which one though..is it the slider (1)? . bcoz i cant see any note (5) there. if its the slider (1), then yeah, i add a little spacing there.
- 00:15:076 (2,4) - Try something more fitting to the flow than these sliders without slider points ? I think this pattern would be a bit better, the (4) will follow the flow http://puu.sh/jjVUx/5ac6247e3a.jpg fix (4) only
- 00:17:692 (2,3) - You can improve the flow here, try a better use of slider points :Pfixed, hope its ok now >w<
- 00:22:461 (1) - This slider is too much curved imo fixed
- 00:28:000 (3,1) - the claps are a bit overused imo, try to be consistent using claps
- 00:37:538 (2) - the normal hitsound at the end of this slider feels out of place
- 01:19:108 (1) - You should silence the end of this spinner
A lot of inconsistence in hitsounds (especially claps), you may have to recheck everything/remap the hitsounding. about hitsounding..my diff hitsound was copied from monstrata tatoe diff lol :v.. so about hitsound, its better to ask monstrata xD

Good luck!
thanks for the mod xD

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: tatoe.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 6538
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.5
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.8

[Metadata]
Title:MIIRO
TitleUnicode:海色
Artist:AKINO from bless4
ArtistUnicode:AKINO from bless4
Creator:monstrata
Version:Walao's Advanced
Source:艦隊これくしょん -艦これ-
Tags:sukinathan ktgster pishifat smoothie world walaowey toybot sheela901 yuii- Sharkie みいろ miiro tv size opening kantai collection kancolle fleet girls magic kaito 1412 ai no scenario chico with honeyworks まじっく快斗1412
BeatmapID:724337
BeatmapSetID:325158

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:3.5
OverallDifficulty:5
ApproachRate:7
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"miiro_no_scenario.png",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Avena
delete this please
Zweib
Osu needs more TATOE MIIRO!

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Cherry Blossom
Hello, M4M from my queue.
Please, reply to this mod and tell me why you didn't change without saying "it's my style" or "there are already ranked maps with the same kind of pattern" or other reasons like this.

Ready to fight. OH LOL THIS REMIX AND BG.
I skipped Super/Ultra beginner diffs.

Yuistrata's Easy

  1. 00:18:307 (2) - This slider sounds weird, imo, it shouldn't really end on 00:18:923 - because you didn't follow this tick 00:18:461 - which is the same sound. Try to find a solution that avoids the inconsistency in rhythm.

Normal

  1. 00:09:076 (4) - Here you're following the melody, so this slider should end 00:09:384 - . Assume it was your intention because you didn't hitsound this tick 00:09:538 -
  2. 01:06:025 (1) - I don't really think a 1/2 gap between this zigzag slider and 01:07:358 (1) - is a good idea, this long slider could be stressful for beginners. And it could be better for them if you give some recovery time, so, you could make it shorter and end it here 01:07:025 - which is a downbeat more powerful than the red tick your followed.

Walao's Advanced

  1. 00:31:076 (2,3) - It could be better if you unstack them, QATs could be really annoying concerning different stacks on patterns. You just only stacked 1/2 objects, no 1/1 objects, so it could be better if you keep consistency with what you did before and after.

Hard

  1. Check aimod, you have unsnapped objects.
  2. 00:25:846 (1,2) - There should be more distance between these sliders because the gap is different (3/4 and 1/2) but the distance with objects is the same visually, and this could be a little misleading.

sheela's Very Hard

  1. 00:18:923 (2,3,4,1) - Here, the motion could be changed to be more comfortable to play, it looks more logical to have something like this instead, up to you to change :

Sharkie's Insane


  • Nothing important to mention.

toybot's Insane

  1. 00:56:692 - (timing points) they don't have the same sampleset and volume, fix that.

Nathan's Insane

  1. 00:13:538 (1,2,3,4) - This is a little weird to play, this shape looks irregular and a little ugly, and the player needs much aim to be able to play this pattern properly, i guess you want to make a triangle and then a jump between 00:13:846 (3,4) - ? A better solution could be a kind of trapeze instead

ktgster's Insane

  1. 00:22:000 (6,1,2) - This is really difficult to play, the antijump on a straight line is like flow breaking here and it was really difficult to handle. The player needs much aim to play this pattern correctly. Try something else with angles, and not a straight line here, or just, avoid this antijump or this long jump.

Extra

  1. 00:57:858 (1,2,3) - This is a little broken here because it is a straight motion with a different distance between 00:58:358 (2,3) - and 00:57:858 (1,2) - , it could be more comfortable to play if you move this circle 00:58:358 (2) - downward in order to make an angle, and make this pattern more comfortable to play.

Kyshiro's Extra


  • 00:08:615 (1,2) - they look too close compared to the whole map, when i testplayed it, I just hit this circle too early but i was enough accurate to get a 300 here. But this can be a little bothering for players. So there should be a little more distance between 00:08:615 (1,2) - .

Smoothie World's Extra

  1. 00:14:000 (2,3) - This isn't really a good idea to stack this circle on the sliderend here, because stacking an object = slowdown, and there is a difficult jump pattern after this stacked circle and that could be surprising or just more difficult to start the jump pattern because of this slowdown. Also, the motion between 00:14:461 (3,1,2,3,4) - is difficult because it is nearly straight and the distance between objects are not the same, so it could be better if you unstack this circle 00:14:461 (3) - from the sliderend.

pishi's Extra

  1. 00:24:769 (2) - Let's talk about "emphasis" (because people like to talk about this lol), I don't really understand why there is a different spacing between the previous and the next object, the intensity is the same here, and it looks/sounds wrong that there is a different distance. There should be the same distance between these objects.
  2. 00:34:076 - Difficult to judge, but there is nothing enough powerful on this tick (I said powerful. i can hear the drum's echo but i don't really find it enough powerful to be mapped), so, the circle you placed it sounds out of place. Not like 00:33:769 (4) - which is enough audible or 00:34:384 - too. There are enough emphasis on this part.

Tatoe

  1. 00:52:923 (1,2,3) - Here is missed when i was testplaying, after analyzing my replay, i concluded that there is too much distance between 00:53:076 (2,3) - and that makes this jump pattern a little too much difficult. It plays better if there is an equal distance between 00:53:076 (2,3) - and 00:52:923 (1,2) - because that won't force the player to do a larger motion here.
  2. 00:54:153 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This looks really overdone and QATs won't really approve this pattern. Note that 1/4 sliders are not really easy to handle and aim because there is something called "flow" and all directions are opposite and that make this pattern more difficult. And it does not really make sense.
    And same for 01:16:691 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -


Uuuh that was long.
Good luck ~
pishifat

Atsuro wrote:

[pishifat's Extra]
  1. 00:40:000 (3) - Remove whistle not really seeing why?
  2. 00:41:538 (3) - I think drum finish sounds better than whistle here. the custom whistle expresses the same bass thing as a drum finsh without being super loud so ya

UndeadCapulet wrote:

pishi's Extra


00:25:846 (1,2,3,4) - Personally I think stacking the circles underneath the sliderheads is making the slidertails seem really weak; since the player is cutting away from the tails via slider leniency, the full effect of lifting up on the tails is lost. If you stack the circles underneath the tails, I think the emphasis works out better. id want some sort of movement from slider to circle, whcih doesnt really happen when it's stacked on the tail. when stacked on the head tho it actually does (even if just barely)
00:41:538 (3,1) - Hmm, just an idea, but how about shifting these so they overlap, similar to 00:19:692 (1,2) - . It would make these two feel more connected by the quiet guitar strum in the background. (Something like this, with other objects rearranged accordingly, idk it'd be cool) overlapping stuff at different offsets is like antistructure. better to have them all the same (at least tahts what i think while doing stuff). there's also an overlap with 00:41:846 (1,3) - already so putting another object on that makes things super cramped
01:02:025 (1,2) - Maybe rework your NC's so they line up more with the vocals? Swapping NC would be better imo, it would be consistent with the NC's at 01:00:525 (1) - and 01:11:191 (1) - . Applies to all similar sections. yes

Fuccho wrote:

Pishi's Extra
  1. 00:09:692 (1) - Maybe remove the second white point, and move the second red point a bit to the right? i have really dumb aesthetic preferences ;-;
  2. 00:16:307 (3,4,5,6,7) - I feel like this is a bit too curved. I think it'd flow better if you straightened it out just a bit. very possible
  3. 00:26:256 (2,4) - I think it'd give a nice effect if you moved these two a bit out of the way. (2) a bit to the right and (4) a bit to the left or whatever floats your boat. awesome
  4. 00:32:000 (1) - Could you rotate this a bit clockwise and move it slightly closer to 00:31:692 (5) ? I think it'd look better. same
  5. That's it. The rest seems good.

pinataman wrote:

[pishi's Extra]

00:04:923 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) – please please please put strong hitsounds here. whistle spam B))))))

00:15:692 (3) – In the song, this note acts as a rest. The way you map it does not give enough rest to the player here. The effect of this is that you take away the exciting emphasis the song puts on 00:15:846 (4) - . So I would recommend reducing the spacing or changing the rhythm to be more restful at 00:15:692 (3) – to make the map more exciting. that idea is expressed through spacing already so ya

00:25:846 (1,2,3,4) – As far as spacing and rhythm goes, there isn't really a change to indicate a change of intensity between this and the previous section. If you were going for reducing the spacing/speed as a sign of increased intensity, the reduction in speed has to be very noticeable, which it really isn't here. Please increase the intensity here or in the past section of the music. what im trying to do is make the random 1/3 possibly readable, so using higher/lower slider velocities or spacing would just make things more difficult than intended

00:51:692 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This section uses repetition of the counterclockwise flow to build a tension. This tension is more a result of the singer using a near constant pitch. So from my perspective, the release of the tension is best suited when the singer changes her pitch (moving up to a major note), which occurs at 00:53:538 (1) - . Since you continue the counterclockwise flow, it feels like is missing that exciting punch and instead just feels repetitive. I would like to see a clockwise flow start on (1) to better represent that, for example: http://puu.sh/jhPWE/53b954ce93.jpg maybe it's just different interpretation or something but when the vocals stop being active at 00:54:153 (1) - is where i change it and that fits really well to me

01:18:525 (1,2,3) – Increasing the spacing here could give a more climactic ending to the map. (also fits better with pacing so that 00:51:692 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) – isn't the most intense part of the map (although it still would be, but this makes it less noticeable)). the end of the miiro section was supposed to be the most intense part of the map tho. as for spacing, increasing it goes against pitch stuff so rather not do that

Cherry Blossom wrote:

did both
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sheela

jinhang_ang wrote:

Okay M4M request from t/274775/start=224

Some diffs (Beginner and Easy) don't have any kiai which is quite strange..?

omg this diff list

So let me start.

[sheela's Very Hard]
1. 00:08:615 (1,2) - I see no reason to jump. However if you have your own reason and would like to keep it please tell me so that i can improve my modding skills :3 // I don't know too lol. I switched the head and tail to 00:08:615 (1) .
2. 00:25:846 (1,1) - Other diffs make this the same NC. Perhaps you would like to keep it for epicness though i don't know about your choice. // The new combo fits there because of the beats.
3. 00:54:769 (4) - I think a jump fits. Perhaps Ctrl+G? // Alright.

P/s: A great thanks for mappers that gave me feedback on my mod :) This is a really nice mapset and most of what i have written are just suggestions.
Thank you for the mod, jinhang_ang!

Cherry Blossom wrote:

sheela's Very Hard

  1. 00:18:923 (2,3,4,1) - Here, the motion could be changed to be more comfortable to play, it looks more logical to have something like this instead, up to you to change : // It does make the flow better. Arranged similar to the screenshot.
Thanks for the mod, Cherry Blossom!
http://puu.sh/jrDTW/98c95ac04a.osu
Topic Starter
Monstrata

Cherry Blossom wrote:

Hello, M4M from my queue.
Please, reply to this mod and tell me why you didn't change without saying "it's my style" or "there are already ranked maps with the same kind of pattern" or other reasons like this.

Ready to fight. OH LOL THIS REMIX AND BG.
I skipped Super/Ultra beginner diffs.

Yuistrata's Easy

  1. 00:18:307 (2) - This slider sounds weird, imo, it shouldn't really end on 00:18:923 - because you didn't follow this tick 00:18:461 - which is the same sound. Try to find a solution that avoids the inconsistency in rhythm.A mistake on my end probably, sorry Yuii- lol. I extended the slider by 1/2 a beat because I think that's much more straightforward lol.

Normal

  1. 00:09:076 (4) - Here you're following the melody, so this slider should end 00:09:384 - . Assume it was your intention because you didn't hitsound this tick 00:09:538 - That was my bad. I hitsounded the tick instead xD. Keeping the slider as-is would be more consistent with the rhythm that I follow.
  2. 01:06:025 (1) - I don't really think a 1/2 gap between this zigzag slider and 01:07:358 (1) - is a good idea, this long slider could be stressful for beginners. And it could be better for them if you give some recovery time, so, you could make it shorter and end it here 01:07:025 - which is a downbeat more powerful than the red tick your followed.You're right. reduced the length of the slider to the downbeat you mentioned.

Hard

  1. Check aimod, you have unsnapped objects. lol fixed
  2. 00:25:846 (1,2) - There should be more distance between these sliders because the gap is different (3/4 and 1/2) but the distance with objects is the same visually, and this could be a little misleading.I actually think this is fine... The gap is actually 2/3 vs 1/2, not 3/4 and 1/2 since the sliders here are 2/3 repeats not 3/4's. I think this pattern, visually, is still straight forward. All clicks also occur on white ticks so players will still be "playing" to 1/1 rhythm.

Extra

  1. 00:57:858 (1,2,3) - This is a little broken here because it is a straight motion with a different distance between 00:58:358 (2,3) - and 00:57:858 (1,2) - , it could be more comfortable to play if you move this circle 00:58:358 (2) - downward in order to make an angle, and make this pattern more comfortable to play. You're right, I wanted to have a jump here, but the angle would be far too linear because players will naturally use slider leniency on slider 1 to play this pattern, but that ends up making the motion very linear. Fixed!

Tatoe

  1. 00:52:923 (1,2,3) - Here is missed when i was testplaying, after analyzing my replay, i concluded that there is too much distance between 00:53:076 (2,3) - and that makes this jump pattern a little too much difficult. It plays better if there is an equal distance between 00:53:076 (2,3) - and 00:52:923 (1,2) - because that won't force the player to do a larger motion here. I agree, I used this pattern before and people seemed to have trouble with it. I've completely remapped this pattern with uniform spacing in mind now. The jumps are just too big for players to appreciate minor changes in spacing so i'll keep those for smaller jump patterns.
  2. 00:54:153 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This looks really overdone and QATs won't really approve this pattern. Note that 1/4 sliders are not really easy to handle and aim because there is something called "flow" and all directions are opposite and that make this pattern more difficult. And it does not really make sense. My thought process when making these kick-slider jumps was that because slider-heads are much easier to acc than circles due to the hit leniency on sliders, even though this pattern is difficult to aim, it will be easy to play. Nonetheless, after changing up the pattern you mentioned before, I decided to remake this pattern as well. Funny how turning the kick-sliders into circles ended up buffing the diff to over 6 stars.
    And same for 01:16:691 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I would like to keep this pattern if possible though. I think the slider-spam works well here because lower bpm, and there are also less jumps leading into the pattern so I think the whole jump sequence as a whole won't be over-done unlike the miiro one (which had 25 jumps in a row lol).


Uuuh that was long.
Good luck ~
Thanks CB!

Also, updated everyone's diffs (so far).
Topic Starter
Monstrata
Fixed the tags/source/title for you sheela~
sheela

monstrata wrote:

Fixed the tags/source/title for you sheela~
Oh thanks! Weirdly, the unicode characters turn into bizarre characters when I update.
Topic Starter
Monstrata
Updated all diffs again, with a new set of custon hitsounds. Actually these were the original hitsounds Yuii- used when he did the hitsounding, I just didn't import the custom hitsounds in cuz im stupid lol.

[Spread Balancing]
Here's the proposed difficulty-settings balance for every diff. Please let me know if you have any objections. Most of the values are just small decimal movements anyways, they are done to accomodate the amount of Insane/Extra's in the set. Anything that requires an over 1.0 change has been bolded. Everything else should be minor. I will apply all these changes after all GD'ers have responded to all mods. Feel free to apply them yourself though <3

Tatoe: HP 6.5 | AR 9.5 | OD 9
pishi's Extra: HP 6.1 | AR 9.4 | OD 8.9
Smoothie World's Extra: HP6 | AR 9.3 | OD 8.8
Kyshiro's Extra: HP 6 | AR 9.2 | OD 8.7
Extra: HP 6 | AR 9.1 | OD 8.6
ktgster's Insane: HP 5.8 | AR 9 | OD 8.4
Nathan's Insane: HP 5.5 | AR 9 | OD 8
toybot's Insane: HP 5.5 | AR 8.7 | OD 7.5
Sharkie's Insane: HP 5.5 | AR 8.5 | OD 7
sheela's Very Hard: HP 5.5 | AR 8 | OD 6.5
Hard: HP 5 | AR 7.3 | OD 6
Walao's Advanced: HP 4.5 | AR 6.8 | OD 5.3
Normal: HP 4 | AR 5.5 | OD 4.5
Yuistrata's Easy: HP 3 | AR 3.5 | OD 3
Beginner: HP 2 | AR 2 | OD 2
Super Beginner: HP 1 | AR1 | OD 1
Ultra Beginner: HP 0 | AR 0 | OD 0.


[Tatoe]

Wow! I have nothing to say, this diff is amazing!

[pishi's Extra]

No complaints here too!

[Smoothie World's Extra]

Tbh, Tick-rate 1 is better for this song.
00:14:000 (2,3) - Hmm, I guess this works... but imo putting a jump would be better for the drum. Up to you~
00:17:000 - Snap this green line?
00:48:000 (6) - I think NC'ing every measure would be better, since the drums pick up again after the slow section.
00:50:461 (6) - NC here too?
01:01:025 (2,3) - This jump didn't make tooo much sense for me because 3 isn't really a strong note.

[Kyshiro's Extra]

00:55:076 (4,5,6) - I think you could move this triplet up a bit to make it a bit more of a jump from 3.

[Extra]

Remap please.

[ktgster's Insane]

00:18:000 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Even for me, this is a surprising amount of single tapping for a section that's supposed to be calmer/less intense.
00:26:897 (6) - Are you trying to get this set DQ'ed??~!?
00:32:615 (3,4,5,1) - This was really difficult to read cuz of the overlap...

[Nathan's Insane]

Good job!

[toybot's Insane]

00:51:692 - You ahve a bunch of unsnapped sliders here, can you fix them?

[Sharkie's Insane]

Check AIMod~
00:03:384 (4,1) - Mind rotating slider 1 just like a few degrees to avoid that overlap with 4's head?
01:00:525 (5,6,1) - I much prefer if you used automatic stacking. But if not, can you fix this? If you notice, 5>6 is 0.10x spacing but 6>1 is 0.15x spacing so it looks a bit weird in gameplay because they aren't the same distance.
01:03:191 (5,6,1) - Here too. I think you should stick with 0.15x. It looks cool without making the circles all crammed. Also, the majority of your triplets follow 0.15x anyways.
01:08:191 (4,5,6) - Same here, mind just making it 0.15x?

[sheela's Very Hard]

00:12:153 (1,2) - Wouldn't hurt to blanket this. Up to you ;o.

Other than that, really clean mapping!

[Hard]

Tatoe

[Walao's Advanced]

00:02:153 (3,1,1) - How come these 3 sliders use 1.0x SV when 00:01:538 (2) - is 0.75 :S
00:25:846 (1,2) - Mind making these flow a bit better into each other?
00:48:615 (3) - Any way you can make this a 1/2 repeat slider instead to map 00:48:615 (3) - ?
01:06:525 (3,4) - Not really great to have these 1/2 sliders begin on red ticks.
01:15:858 - Nice piano sound you could have mapped~

[Everything Else]

Tatoe
ktgster

Cherry Blossom wrote:

ktgster's Insane

  1. 00:22:000 (6,1,2) - This is really difficult to play, the antijump on a straight line is like flow breaking here and it was really difficult to handle. The player needs much aim to play this pattern correctly. Try something else with angles, and not a straight line here, or just, avoid this antijump or this long jump. - stacked

monstrata wrote:

[ktgster's Insane]

00:18:000 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Even for me, this is a surprising amount of single tapping for a section that's supposed to be calmer/less intense. - k made it simpler
00:26:897 (6) - Are you trying to get this set DQ'ed??~!? - maybe :)
00:32:615 (3,4,5,1) - This was really difficult to read cuz of the overlap... - fixed
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Also add difficulty settings.
pishifat
those hitsounds uhhhhh maybe dont

some qat on a different map wrote:

Remove dripping and slurping hitsounds at all (all hitnormals), as they don't fit the clear tune music provides. What made you think using hitsounds from popular skins is a good idea?
the oriental bamboo something hitsound would probably be included too
walaowey

Cherry Blossom wrote:

Hello, M4M from my queue.
Please, reply to this mod and tell me why you didn't change without saying "it's my style" or "there are already ranked maps with the same kind of pattern" or other reasons like this.

Walao's Advanced

  1. 00:31:076 (2,3) - It could be better if you unstack them, QATs could be really annoying concerning different stacks on patterns. You just only stacked 1/2 objects, no 1/1 objects, so it could be better if you keep consistency with what you did before and after. fixed

Uuuh that was long.
Good luck ~
Thanks for the mod xD

monstrata wrote:

Updated all diffs again, with a new set of custon hitsounds. Actually these were the original hitsounds Yuii- used when he did the hitsounding, I just didn't import the custom hitsounds in cuz im stupid lol.

[Walao's Advanced]

00:02:153 (3,1,1) - How come these 3 sliders use 1.0x SV when 00:01:538 (2) - is 0.75 :S lol , didnt notice this xDD, fixed anyway
00:25:846 (1,2) - Mind making these flow a bit better into each other? fixed
00:48:615 (3) - Any way you can make this a 1/2 repeat slider instead to map 00:48:615 (3) - ? I wont add it for now lol, it increases the star rating a lot lol
01:06:525 (3,4) - Not really great to have these 1/2 sliders begin on red ticks. fixed
01:15:858 - Nice piano sound you could have mapped~ yeah, you're right, I've mapped it now xD
Thanks for the mod xD

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: tatoe.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 6538
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.8

[Metadata]
Title:MIIRO
TitleUnicode:海色
Artist:AKINO from bless4
ArtistUnicode:AKINO from bless4
Creator:monstrata
Version:Walao's Advanced
Source:艦隊これくしょん -艦これ-
Tags:sukinathan ktgster pishifat smoothie world walaowey toybot sheela901 yuii- Sharkie みいろ miiro tv size opening kantai collection kancolle fleet girls magic kaito 1412 ai no scenario chico with honeyworks まじっく快斗1412
BeatmapID:724337
BeatmapSetID:325158

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:3.5
OverallDifficulty:5
ApproachRate:7
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"miiro_no_scenario.png",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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toybot
fixed all except from jinhang_ang's, i really like how the pattern builds up with the triangle and i feel it'd kinda mess it up

thanks!

https://0paste.tk/7770.txt
Xilver15
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