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oh it's ranked
pretty cool.
pretty cool.
Cool! <3
Congratz
Congratz
Hate to be the guy here but I see a big flaw in this map's spread (and mp3 quality) despite the fact that the star difficulty shows a good spread.
Easy SV: 0.60
Normal SV: 1.00
Hard SV: 1.50
Insane SV: 1.60
Extra SV: 1.70
Extreme SV: 2.00
? Maybe this is just me but in a 224 BPM, this is such a massive difference. I personally think that this is a no brainer. to have such a massive SV gap between each lower difficulties in 224 BPM but apparently some people see it as fine which i don't understand.. even by just looking at auto play the map, hard and normal have such a HUGE difference in gameplay. hello am i the only who thinks this way. I think the only reason why the spread seems fine according to the star difficulty is because the system doesn't really consider SV? only how far the objects are placed between each other.
Easy SV: 0.60
Normal SV: 1.00
Hard SV: 1.50
Insane SV: 1.60
Extra SV: 1.70
Extreme SV: 2.00
? Maybe this is just me but in a 224 BPM, this is such a massive difference. I personally think that this is a no brainer. to have such a massive SV gap between each lower difficulties in 224 BPM but apparently some people see it as fine which i don't understand.. even by just looking at auto play the map, hard and normal have such a HUGE difference in gameplay. hello am i the only who thinks this way. I think the only reason why the spread seems fine according to the star difficulty is because the system doesn't really consider SV? only how far the objects are placed between each other.
don't bully qualified mappers
Might as well not have a qualified section, right? Just rank every map that is given a heart! Also I'm not bullying or anything, I'm expressing what I think about the map, and how it can be better. How is that bullying?Enon wrote:
don't bully qualified mappers
I also forgot to mention what's the point of having 4 combo colors with is barely different? or am i color blind
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Why does the color "gray" even exist? We have "white" after all.Bearizm wrote:
I also forgot to mention what's the point of having 4 combo colors with is barely different? or am i color blind
"Might as well not have a qualified section" ... There were none not a long time ago and the majority will agree that it was better that way... Just sayin'
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Thanks guys for your support
(Sorry to not map the version some people seem to prefer, but that's not my case and there's already a map of it anyway >.<)Because they're different, but that's not my point, is it? I mean, you're given the option to have more than 1 combo color for a reason... I get it if it's a pair of similar colors, but 2 pairs? 2-3-4 is very similar so I couldn't see any reason to have just 1 pair. if it's uhm... say as an example; light and dark grey with light and dark blue then i get it, that's cool imo. of course u gotta do the color hax to make it work. Also, you forgot to address my first post here.Yales wrote:
Why do the color "gray" even exist? We have "white" after all.Bearizm wrote:
I also forgot to mention what's the point of having 4 combo colors with is barely different? or am i color blind
Oh again, insane and extra has the exact same OD eventhough they're different by a margin. Ever consider of reducing the OD by 1 on ENHI diffs? I think it would be better that way, wouldn't it?
Topic Starter
To be honnest I find hard to give a proper answer because your point has... no point.
The fact there's 4 colors won't be heavier in your folder anyway. I don't know what I have to explain between shades of blue (cyan/blue), and shades of pink (purple/pink). It's some colors you can also find in the background, but they're totally readable on it. Can you explain me the point of your remark please? What's really disturbing you in it? I mean, being questioned about the utility of shades of color isn't something that has to deal with osu! but with school...?
About your first point. Normal and hard diff both respect the DS. And as you said "the system doesn't really consider SV? only how far the objects are placed between each other." So, therefore, it does take into account the SV (as the DS is on both diffs 1.00 or something). Since DS is based on SV.
I suggest you to have a look on other sets around this BPM. You'll see that it usually takes the same gap from normal to hard. (Here's a few I could quote. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/348551 https://osu.ppy.sh/b/220231 https://osu.ppy.sh/b/291430 etc.) Not that much of a difference with my set right?
Also, the od is high enough to avoid notelock.
You could have made those kind of research before coming grumbling here (and basically asking me to map another diff) on a set of 6 diffs, 4 minutes drain time that I fully mapped by myself... I'm totally willing to get feedback, it's even appreciated but at least put the form. Cause when you say "I hate to be that guy" ... actually you love it don't you?
The fact there's 4 colors won't be heavier in your folder anyway. I don't know what I have to explain between shades of blue (cyan/blue), and shades of pink (purple/pink). It's some colors you can also find in the background, but they're totally readable on it. Can you explain me the point of your remark please? What's really disturbing you in it? I mean, being questioned about the utility of shades of color isn't something that has to deal with osu! but with school...?
About your first point. Normal and hard diff both respect the DS. And as you said "the system doesn't really consider SV? only how far the objects are placed between each other." So, therefore, it does take into account the SV (as the DS is on both diffs 1.00 or something). Since DS is based on SV.
I suggest you to have a look on other sets around this BPM. You'll see that it usually takes the same gap from normal to hard. (Here's a few I could quote. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/348551 https://osu.ppy.sh/b/220231 https://osu.ppy.sh/b/291430 etc.) Not that much of a difference with my set right?
Also, the od is high enough to avoid notelock.
You could have made those kind of research before coming grumbling here (and basically asking me to map another diff) on a set of 6 diffs, 4 minutes drain time that I fully mapped by myself... I'm totally willing to get feedback, it's even appreciated but at least put the form. Cause when you say "I hate to be that guy" ... actually you love it don't you?
Personally I think the spread is fine. The gap between Normal and Hard is indeed high, but the gap between Easy and Normal is equally big (there is a HUGE difference in density and speed). From Hard up to Freeze the gaps are much smaller, since the set is more focused on the higher difficulties.
The combo colors seem different enough to me.
I don't find this disqualify-worthy at the moment but if another QAT disagrees feel free to do it of course.
The combo colors seem different enough to me.
I don't find this disqualify-worthy at the moment but if another QAT disagrees feel free to do it of course.
Wow, calm down. You seem a little bit salty there. If you didn't see my point in my post then idk what to say to you.. And sorry that I didn't do my "research", cba to do some "research". I only do this type of thing when I see something outrageous which is almost never nowadays. I know you put a shit ton of effort in this since you mapped every difficulty and got a lot of pages in this thread, but understand that if you get this type of feedback in the qualification process, it's pretty damn normal. Anyways, if you don't want to change them at least change the terrible mp3 as some mentioned in the disqus comments. It's really bad. Should be easy to bring back up...Yales wrote:
You could have made those kind of research before coming grumbling here (and basically asking me to map another diff) on a set of 6 diffs, 4 minutes drain time that I fully mapped by myself... I'm totally willing to get feedback, it's even appreciated but at least put the form. Cause when you say "I hate to be that guy" ... actually you love it don't you?
@Desp I've always thought spreads are supposed to be balanced throughout all the difficulties being made (?)
seems mp3 is really low quality >:
Idk if there is another source for mp3, anyways I took one from:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21203138
http://puu.sh/nBlbS/6c86ead58f.mp3
Check and judge yourself , or maybe someone else can provide a better one
Also Insane and Extra diff have the same OD
Idk if there is another source for mp3, anyways I took one from:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21203138
http://puu.sh/nBlbS/6c86ead58f.mp3
Check and judge yourself , or maybe someone else can provide a better one
Also Insane and Extra diff have the same OD
heyy just joke D:Bearizm wrote:
Might as well not have a qualified section, right? Just rank every map that is given a heart! Also I'm not bullying or anything, I'm expressing what I think about the map, and how it can be better. How is that bullying?
I also forgot to mention what's the point of having 4 combo colors with is barely different? or am i color blind
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So this actually got qualified. Hm hm.
Oh.
Oh.
Judging by its spectrograph the mp3 isnt even 128 kbs and jitters a lot of stuff around lol
a bit of offtopic D:
I'm here not to feedback but with another question. What you guys think, is this can be somewhat accurate gaps for this beatmap?
I'm here not to feedback but with another question. What you guys think, is this can be somewhat accurate gaps for this beatmap?
ahaha sorry D:!!Enon wrote:
heyy just joke D:
Agreed. This is what I see.Sieg wrote:
a bit of offtopic D:
I'm here not to feedback but with another question. What you guys think, is this can be somewhat accurate gaps for this beatmap?
Topic Starter
My MP3 also comes from niconico. but idk
@bearizm alright, edited to put the drama out.
PS: Yuii- made me salty though
@sieg if you're talking about the icons of the map. It was like that but BNs themselves told me it wasn't accurate enough. So I guess it should have those icons..(?)
@bearizm alright, edited to put the drama out.
PS: Yuii- made me salty though
@sieg if you're talking about the icons of the map. It was like that but BNs themselves told me it wasn't accurate enough. So I guess it should have those icons..(?)
calm down, I told you my opinion, you answered. I'm ok with that.. May not change my mind about the spread but hey, I don't want any dramas especially with the fact you answered me with a certain degree of hostility (kind of my fault as well which I guess I owe you an apology with my semi-agressive criticism) and that this isn't the appropriate place for it.
good luck.
good luck.
@Yales icons? no, who cares about icons. It's about gaps between difficulties shown as distances
Yales yes your mp3 can be from the same source, but hear the quality difference
yours:
mine:
I'm not the best encoding audio, but someone maybe can get an even better one from nicovideo, unless you want to keep a really low quality one. I wouldn't talk too much about the spread, but I have same feeling as Beazrim and Sieg
yours:
mine:
I'm not the best encoding audio, but someone maybe can get an even better one from nicovideo, unless you want to keep a really low quality one. I wouldn't talk too much about the spread, but I have same feeling as Beazrim and Sieg
Topic Starter
If people think it's worth a DQ, fine! That's not a bad point after all. (I wonder why I took so many mods though, but well)Natsu wrote:
Yales yes your mp3 can be from the same source, but hear the quality difference and the enconde difference
yours:
mine:
I'm not the best encoding audio, but someone maybe can get an even better one from nicovideo, unless you want to keep a really low quality one. I wouldn't talk too much about the spread, but I have same feeling as Beazrim and Sieg
For the spread... I just can't take it. Sorry. I mapped the whole thing just to rank "freeze" in a way that it, at least, follow the ranking criteria... If after that there's some unspoken rules... I'm just like "no"
... If you want to get an idea of the feel I have about this set. Try to drink 4L of millk at once... no fun
If the mp3 is going to be changed, you might as well use the one the artist put up as a free download on piapro (it's 192kbit too), even though it's pretty similar to Natsu's version in terms of audio quality. Probably the best 192kbit mp3 avaiable as it from an "official" source
http://piapro.jp/t/QzG4
I don't even speak any Japanese, but it only took a few minutes to create an account and download
=> http://puu.sh/nBzOy/74b79890a3.mp3
http://piapro.jp/t/QzG4
I don't even speak any Japanese, but it only took a few minutes to create an account and download
=> http://puu.sh/nBzOy/74b79890a3.mp3
Well yes, I think this kind (EN--HI--E) of spreads should be acceptable, the gap can be treated as "alright" for pair of difficulties while every single difficulty by itself is matching the ability of majority of this level player base, which is the case here. Though attitude "I mapped the whole thing just to rank top difficulty" is so-so. Also, the set is quite good (:Yales wrote:
For the spread... I just can't take it. Sorry. I mapped the whole thing just to rank "freeze" in a way that it, at least, follow the ranking criteria... If after that there's some unspoken rules... I'm just like "no"
... If you want to get an idea of the feel I have about this set. Try to drink 4L of millk at once... no fun
Alright, it seems better to fix the mp3 quality. I have to admit that I thought the mp3 was supposed to be that blurry since it fits the style of the song well, I didn't check that the original doesn't sound like this.
Please fix everything else that you think needs fixing.
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About the spread:
I don't know how you guys come to the conclusion that the gap between Easy and Normal is low, it's as big as the gap between Normal and Hard looking at the incredibly low density of Easy. The spread imo is more like:
E------N------H---I---E---E
(relying on actual difficulty of the maps, not star rating)
If the spread rule change that was proposed and hugely dismissed by the community a few weeks ago got through, this would be an issue, but as it is right now, not really.
Please fix everything else that you think needs fixing.
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About the spread:
I don't know how you guys come to the conclusion that the gap between Easy and Normal is low, it's as big as the gap between Normal and Hard looking at the incredibly low density of Easy. The spread imo is more like:
E------N------H---I---E---E
(relying on actual difficulty of the maps, not star rating)
Then why do mapsets with 5 Extra difficulties get ranked? Things like E--N---------H-----I are bad because the Normal could clearly be harder to create a more polished spread (just an example) but the spread here is reasonably focused on the higher difficulty-tier.Bearizm wrote:
@Desp I've always thought spreads are supposed to be balanced throughout all the difficulties being made (?)
If the spread rule change that was proposed and hugely dismissed by the community a few weeks ago got through, this would be an issue, but as it is right now, not really.
Topic Starter
Okay, changed mp3.
Also nerfed Insane's od to 7.5
Also nerfed Insane's od to 7.5
I took a look again, spread seems a bit borderline, but should be fine tho 
Rebubbled :3
Topic Starter
Thanks Natsu for the recheck as well as D-kun for the rebubububle.
machecaz
Good point. I am guilty of my own words then. Haha oops.Desperate-kun wrote:
Then why do mapsets with 5 Extra difficulties get ranked? Things like E--N---------H-----I are bad because the Normal could clearly be harder to create a more polished spread (just an example) but the spread here is reasonably focused on the higher difficulty-tier.Bearizm wrote:
@Desp I've always thought spreads are supposed to be balanced throughout all the difficulties being made (?)
If the spread rule change that was proposed and hugely dismissed by the community a few weeks ago got through, this would be an issue, but as it is right now, not really.
gogogogogo!
bearizm for bn
bearizm for bn
:3
Confirm mp3 quality and agree OD changed in Insane . Let it do again. Re-qualified!
00:32:699 - Does anyone else think the hitsounds hear are nearly impossible to hear? I have mine pretty loud and I had trouble hearing them
00:04:708 (2,1) - Why is this 6.71x spacing? I don't get it. At 00:06:851 (2,1) you have 3.5x and 00:08:994 (2,1) is even smaller, meanwhile the song is getting more and more intense.
00:12:811 - You don't have a triple on this tick anywhere else in the song. It's mapped to nothing.
00:04:708 (2,1) - Why is this 6.71x spacing? I don't get it. At 00:06:851 (2,1) you have 3.5x and 00:08:994 (2,1) is even smaller, meanwhile the song is getting more and more intense.
00:12:811 - You don't have a triple on this tick anywhere else in the song. It's mapped to nothing.
D:
Topic Starter
Thanks for the feedback.Smoothie World wrote:
00:32:699 - Does anyone else think the hitsounds hear are nearly impossible to hear? I have mine pretty loud and I had trouble hearing them I don't know, I can hear them just fine tbh.
00:04:708 (2,1) - Why is this 6.71x spacing? I don't get it. At 00:06:851 (2,1) you have 3.5x and 00:08:994 (2,1) is even smaller, meanwhile the song is getting more and more intense. Well, it's still the same flow so I don't think it plays bad. Well, I don't even "think" it plays bad. It does play good to me. Now if you want to know exactly why I did that. It's because the music before this part feels flat, like it doesn't get more intense. Until this part where the song does get more intense (it's like a new section in the same section if you want.. a new pattern basically.) This is why I want a jump to those sliders. Now about 00:08:994 (2,1) - this your own interpretation. To me it actually gets less intense to be finally cut by this sound 00:10:199 (1) - which is really intense for that matter.
00:12:811 - You don't have a triple on this tick anywhere else in the song. It's mapped to nothing. When you want to emphasize the music with a triple it's usually "overmapped". You could probably have point them all out by the way (and not only my map). About this one 00:12:744 (3,4,5) - it's obviously to recall 00:12:208 (6,7,1) - which follows the same sound. It's just a gimmick to create some game, pretty sad you didn't see it tbh
EDIT; Woo !! Rhythm Incarnate
EDIT2; Enon always here to raise the moral xD. Thanks :3