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Play efficiently, and set goals for yourself. Use your Collections feature if you have; that's why it exists.
Beatmap editor is also handy. Tweak map aspects for training purposes and reset to original afterwards.
And contrary to popular belief, patience is your best friend, along with stress management, physical exercise, healthy diets and SLEEP.
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Play efficiently, and set goals for yourself. Use your Collections feature if you have; that's why it exists.
Beatmap editor is also handy. Tweak map aspects for training purposes and reset to original afterwards.
And contrary to popular belief, patience is your best friend, along with stress management, physical exercise, healthy diets and SLEEP.
ZenithPhantasm
Fcing maps that are a real challenge to fc.
Source : me
Source : me
But leads to developing abnormal speed for your rank.ZenithPhantasm wrote:
Play a little bit above your level like the stuff you can almost FC.
Playing stuff way above your level leads to mashing
If you are sure you can fix the mashing part later i highly recommend playing maps above your level (not ones you can barely get 30% one).
In case you cant then just fallow tip i quoted above, its the best one you can find.
there is no "established" way to improve the fastest because everyone improves in different ways
play the game, experiment and try and find out how you in particular improve
what works for other people may not work for you, because everyone's different
play the game, experiment and try and find out how you in particular improve
what works for other people may not work for you, because everyone's different
I'm a living testament of that...HK_ wrote:
But leads to developing abnormal speed for your rank..
What's wrong with speed?The Gambler wrote:
I'm a living testament of that...HK_ wrote:
But leads to developing abnormal speed for your rank..
Snap too hard = missKheldragar wrote:
What's wrong with speed?
Im one too but for me with abnormal speed came abnormal inconsistency and im still trying to fix it...The Gambler wrote:
I'm a living testament of that...
The moment you couldn't FC a 4 star song and 25k... Very sad life.HK_ wrote:
Im one too but for me with abnormal speed came abnormal inconsistency and im still trying to fix it...
ConfirmedThe Gambler wrote:
Snap too hard = missKheldragar wrote:
What's wrong with speed?
YES I AM STILL MAD ABOUT THIS
But snapping too hard would mean that you cant control speed you have.The Gambler wrote:
Snap too hard = missKheldragar wrote:
What's wrong with speed?
Not being able to control speed is same as not having it at all, when i started playing i could swing around my mouse just as hard as i can now but that doesnt mean i had any idea of what i was doing.
Speed = max speed you know what you are doing with.
So yea...
And just like that, only the first 5 posts had anything helpful.
Well my top rank (4,3*) could have been SS but at 3/4 my hands went like "lol nope, whe should start shaking as hard as we can so he could get few misses"The Gambler wrote:
The moment you couldn't FC a 4 star song and 25k... Very sad life.HK_ wrote:
Im one too but for me with abnormal speed came abnormal inconsistency and im still trying to fix it...
Almost made me cry. It was also my first play on that map ;_;
And...thats not the only case either ;_;
MOURN WITH ME OVER MY MISSThe Gambler wrote:
And just like that, only the first 5 posts had anything helpful.
Make sure to develop good technique before going ham
Crendor refers to this as "hard in the paint"
Isnt the standard playmore enough anymore?Kheldragar wrote:
Crendor refers to this as "hard in the paint"
Should make a youtube video on how to train efficiently.
Mine only goes back 184 days.
But leads to developing abnormal speed for your rank.First of all - Passing a map != (doesn't mean) Playing a map.
If you are sure you can fix the mashing part later i highly recommend playing maps above your level (not ones you can barely get 30% one).
In case you cant then just fallow tip i quoted above, its the best one you can find.
Most of people here can shitpass buttonmash way higer maps but that lead to literaly nothing, exept realy hard to deal with bad habits.
You don't need abnormal speed at any rank, you need proper aim and accuracy at first point, being able to handle high bpm (200 and above) comes with literaly "play more and progress".
Button mashing is i think worst possible and at same time hardest to deal with bad habit in Osu, you cannot "just like this" not button mash becouse every faster / more complicated pattern will immidiatly make you faceroll keyboard in order to lucky hit circles.
You don't need mods to progress up to 4-digit (i am not sure but i think even up to 3-digit) rank.
Use search engine properly, for example: star>=4 star<4.1 - pick maps, fc few of them (including some with complicated patterns), incerase range and go on.
If you at 3 star range start playing 4.5* insane maps, believe me or not - you are not gonna go far with this, at ceratin point you will quit becouse of being unable to play at all.
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First of all - Passing a map != Playing a map.
Last time i checked my dictionary playing still meant playing.
Most of people here can shitpass buttonmash way higer maps but that lead to literaly nothing, exept realy hard to deal with bad habits.
Just a personal opinion.
You don't need abnormal speed at any rank.
Personal opinion.
Button mashing is i think worst possible and at same time hardest to deal with bad habit in Osu, you cannot "just like this" not button mash becouse every faster / more complicated pattern will immidiatly make you faceroll keyboard in order to lucky hit circles.
Personal opinion.
You don't need mods to progress up to 4-digit.
Personal opinion.
If you at 3 star range start playing 4.5* insane maps, believe me or not - you are not gonna go far with this.
Personal opinion.
at ceratin point you will quit becouse of being unable to play at all.
Only reason quitting this game crossed my mind was because i stoped playing for fun and trying so hard to FC maps. I dont find FCing fun so thats just just another of your personal opinions. And please stop forcing your opinions on others. Even if majority agrees with it that doesnt mean its right.
If you're having trouble so much as passing the map, then you're mashing and not playing.
It's proven that spamming maps too hard will make you awful again.
Abnormal speed does nothing for you, and hinders development if you don't play slower maps too.
Button mashing is literally not playing the game
You absolutely do not need mods to progress to 4-digit stars. If you think you do, then you're bad and need to go back to playing 3.5* maps. You can get as far as like rank 2k nomod (Probably further but idk), you don't fucking need mods at your level. I don't need mods to rank, so you definitely don't.
You will not progress by playing stuff way too hard for you.
You will eventually become unable to progress and that's universally frustrating to everyone.
Those aren't opinions, they're mostly proven facts.
It's proven that spamming maps too hard will make you awful again.
Abnormal speed does nothing for you, and hinders development if you don't play slower maps too.
Button mashing is literally not playing the game
You absolutely do not need mods to progress to 4-digit stars. If you think you do, then you're bad and need to go back to playing 3.5* maps. You can get as far as like rank 2k nomod (Probably further but idk), you don't fucking need mods at your level. I don't need mods to rank, so you definitely don't.
You will not progress by playing stuff way too hard for you.
You will eventually become unable to progress and that's universally frustrating to everyone.
Those aren't opinions, they're mostly proven facts.
Inb4 im called insaneMahoganytooth wrote:
If you're having trouble so much as passing the map, then you're mashing and not playing.
I agree with that but he said that simply PASSING doesnt count as playing and that would mean that my consistent 94%++ As on 4-5* are simply mashing just because i dont FC them. And all those 1-2 miss plays on Airman are just mashing because they didnt FC it? Give me a break please...
Abnormal speed does nothing for you, and hinders development if you don't play slower maps too.
But i do play slower maps so that argument is invalid too.
Button mashing is literally not playing the game
Id be an idiot if i disagreed.
You absolutely do not need mods to progress to 4-digit stars. If you think you do, then you're bad and need to go back to playing 3.5* maps. You can get as far as like rank 2k nomod (Probably further but idk), you don't fucking need mods at your level. I don't need mods to rank, so you definitely don't.
I actually misunderstood what he meant by that. Im well aware that 4D FC = 500pp++ and Time freeze FC = 700pp++
You will not progress by playing stuff way too hard for you.
Care to explain my progress then? Its true that i stopped doing that long ago but i still did that and i had progress.
You will eventually become unable to progress and that's universally frustrating to everyone.
Already said that only frustrating thing in osu for me is forcing FCing on myself.
Those aren't opinions, they're mostly proven facts.
If theres at least one sane person that honestly disagrees its an opinion not a fact.
Your "consistent" 94% As on 4-5* maps are shit because 94% is really, really shitty acc, and it's retarded to call that "consistent" because just about anyone could mash out those scores consistently.
Just because passing a map =/= playing a map doesn't mean you can't play a map without FCing. You're really pulling shit like airman out of your ass, because normal rules stop applying at the highest levels of play, because those people know WTF they're doing.
If you had abnormal speed then you'd be a better player than you are. Abnormal speed isn't something anyone needs.
You already disagreed with the statement of button mashing being not playing, don't just change your mind like that.
Your second, third, and fourth top ranks are fucking 2 star maps. You can't claim any progress when you have fucking 2 star maps on your top plays, lmfao.
Therefore your lack of progress in FCing stuff is frustrating you, like I said.
Sane =/= knows what they're talking about
Just because passing a map =/= playing a map doesn't mean you can't play a map without FCing. You're really pulling shit like airman out of your ass, because normal rules stop applying at the highest levels of play, because those people know WTF they're doing.
If you had abnormal speed then you'd be a better player than you are. Abnormal speed isn't something anyone needs.
You already disagreed with the statement of button mashing being not playing, don't just change your mind like that.
Your second, third, and fourth top ranks are fucking 2 star maps. You can't claim any progress when you have fucking 2 star maps on your top plays, lmfao.
Therefore your lack of progress in FCing stuff is frustrating you, like I said.
Sane =/= knows what they're talking about
First of all - Passing a map != Playing a map.Passing map = clearing it without NF mod which means without loosing hp, no matter what score, even with D, it still count as clear - pass.
Last time i checked my dictionary playing still meant playing.
Playing map = understanding patterns, beats and timing which means scoring very high accuracy, preferable with full combo or very high combo score in comparation to fc.
Most of people here can shitpass buttonmash way higer maps but that lead to literaly nothing, exept realy hard to deal with bad habits.t/187364
Just a personal opinion.
Button mashing is i think worst possible and at same time hardest to deal with bad habit in Osu, you cannot "just like this" not button mash becouse every faster / more complicated pattern will immidiatly make you faceroll keyboard in order to lucky hit circles.Personal opinion, yet every single experienced player say all the time same thing - don't button mash. Literaly every single one.
Personal opinion.
You don't need mods to progress up to 4-digit.https://osu.ppy.sh/u/4790345 - 4 digit nomod.
Personal opinion.
Next time if you start "Personal opinion", prove your point that it is actualy personal opinion. You don't have arguments, yet you try to discuss in case where you are on loosing position.
Please stop, we don't want drum drum to close this topic.
https://osu.ppy.sh/u/4790345 - 4 digit nomod.Khel isn't quite the example for 4-digit nomod with all the DTs.
Better take Mahogany as an example or Baru(not quite 4-digit but could get if he stopped spamming SS on mapsets).
Oh and abnormal speed gives you the ability to easily fc any lower bpm non-stream 4-star-map as you can be way ahead of the map and hardsnap everything like a boss.
Khel before started playing DT was already 4-digit.
Tested this myself, took me long time to NOT button mash and still sometimes i feel this bs. It's annoying since every time when you turn into button mashing, you completly lose control over map.
Speed for higer bpm maps needs to be trained in slow succession, not forced by playing "big shit" over and over again until you die from deafness.
Oh and abnormal speed gives you the ability to easily fc any lower bpm non-stream 4-star-map as you can be way ahead of the map and hardsnap everything like a boss.Never if this abnormal speed is a button mashing.
Tested this myself, took me long time to NOT button mash and still sometimes i feel this bs. It's annoying since every time when you turn into button mashing, you completly lose control over map.
Speed for higer bpm maps needs to be trained in slow succession, not forced by playing "big shit" over and over again until you die from deafness.
I had more pp than tooth before a single dt play. All my nomods are near the bottom of my top plays now, though.Endaris wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/u/4790345 - 4 digit nomod.Khel isn't quite the example for 4-digit nomod with all the DTs.
Better take Mahogany as an example or Baru(not quite 4-digit but could get if he stopped spamming SS on mapsets).
Oh and abnormal speed gives you the ability to easily fc any lower bpm non-stream 4-star-map as you can be way ahead of the map and hardsnap everything like a boss.
best thing is not to play
I'd say play more HD as it reinforces reading skills regardless of AR, which is influential to finger control. HR (acc), DT (speed), EZ (further reading) and FL (memory) can come later.
If you have balls like SapphireGhost then play with SD or PF, though it's purely for bragging rights.
If you have balls like SapphireGhost then play with SD or PF, though it's purely for bragging rights.
All in all there is no true "established" way to get better, except to play more. Though how and what you play more can help you improve upon, differing aspects of the game. Personally i've started working on a heavy amount of control by playing maps i can barely FC and focusing so intentlyon each and every note that my retinas burn.
Side note: I don't know if this has helped anyone else, but whenever I drive my forearm into my desk with my shoulder; I feel as though my snaps become faster and more controlled. Not only that but I feel as though my reading skills improve.
Side note: I don't know if this has helped anyone else, but whenever I drive my forearm into my desk with my shoulder; I feel as though my snaps become faster and more controlled. Not only that but I feel as though my reading skills improve.
Try FCing stuff that is at your current level with a 97%-100% score, and play stuff that is out of your skill rang but you are still able to get 85-90+% on. Play those until you are able to FC the stuff you were getting 85-90+% on.