July - Prelude · forum

Rizen

1,662 posts

Joined August 2013

Rizen 2015-06-24T08:36:14+00:00

Hey

Sexy hitsounds/skin. i r8 8/8

[Pjecoo's Normal]

00:16:190 (1) - I really think this should be shortened to 00:13:882 with a circle at 00:14:267 (2) - . This is because there's a very clear piano beat at 00:13:882 . Something like 00:16:190 (1,2) - . I know that you are replicating what you did at 00:10:036 (1) - but at that time, there is no clear piano beat anywhere during the slider but at the 00:16:190 (1) - , there is definitely a clear piano beat. Please consider revising
00:46:959 (1) - the pointy bit of the slider. maybe make it so the bounce point is on the white tick (00:47:729)
01:00:421 (2,3,4) - maybe try this rhythm? img. This is because at 01:00:421, the piano beat is of a low key, but then goes high key at 01:00:805. I think this should be emphasized with a circle then slider. The current slider doesn't show any emphasis for this. Like what you did at 00:10:036 (1,2,3) -
01:25:036 - maybe add a circle here?
01:26:575 - ^

[Hard]

00:25:421 (3) - I think you should NC this
01:27:729 (3) - why the sudden change in distance snapping? 01:14:652 (1,2,3) - has the same tune but no jump
One of my concerns with this difficulty is that yes, it is a hard because it introduces jumps, changes in distance spacing, and slider velocity changes. But it's star difficulty is too low. This is just a random thought I thought of so you may ignore this.

Overall, a very very very nice mapset.

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Lethargy

159 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Lethargy 2015-06-24T09:44:34+00:00

[ Rizen ] wrote:
Hey

Sexy hitsounds/skin. i r8 8/8 - thanks, i personally stole them from other beatmaps

[Hard]
00:25:421 (3) - I think you should NC this - good idea, since it is similar to beginning where it is NCd
01:27:729 (3) - why the sudden change in distance snapping? 01:14:652 (1,2,3) - has the same tune but no jump - wanted to emphasize decreasing volume of the song and imo it isnt that huge change
One of my concerns with this difficulty is that yes, it is a hard because it introduces jumps, changes in distance spacing, and slider velocity changes. But it's star difficulty is too low. This is just a random thought I thought of so you may ignore this. - I do take that on mind. But if there similar maps with low star rating like this one and they are ranked, i dont tihnk that will be much of an issue. Will obviously depend on BNs

Overall, a very very very nice mapset. Thanks!
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Mortem

690 posts

Joined July 2013

Mortem 2015-06-24T13:55:20+00:00

[ Rizen ] wrote:
[Pjecoo's Normal]
00:16:190 (1) - I really think this should be shortened to 00:13:882 with a circle at 00:14:267 (2) - . This is because there's a very clear piano beat at 00:13:882 . Something like 00:16:190 (1,2) - . I know that you are replicating what you did at 00:10:036 (1) - but at that time, there is no clear piano beat anywhere during the slider but at the 00:16:190 (1) - , there is definitely a clear piano beat. Please consider revising - Fixed.
00:46:959 (1) - the pointy bit of the slider. maybe make it so the bounce point is on the white tick (00:47:729) - Okay.
01:00:421 (2,3,4) - maybe try this rhythm? img. This is because at 01:00:421, the piano beat is of a low key, but then goes high key at 01:00:805. I think this should be emphasized with a circle then slider. The current slider doesn't show any emphasis for this. Like what you did at 00:10:036 (1,2,3) - - I think this rhythm is ok, so not fixed.
01:25:036 - maybe add a circle here? - Ok.
01:26:575 - ^ - ^

- Thank you.

@Geronimaa - Ty jsi neaplikoval kód, co jsem ti tady dal do boxu, takže jsem ten minulý mód musel udělat znova. Tentokrát na to laskavě nezapomeň.

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Lethargy

159 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Lethargy 2015-06-25T08:48:37+00:00

Nemel jsem na to cas

Kyouren

5,582 posts

Joined October 2012

Kyouren 2015-06-25T12:12:33+00:00

Ranked please <3

Lethargy

159 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Lethargy 2015-06-25T16:24:03+00:00

gokugohan12468 wrote:
Ranked please <3

then gimme stars

Arphimigon

1,650 posts

Joined December 2014

Arphimigon 2015-06-25T20:41:35+00:00

Quickie mod

[Pjecoo's Normal]
00:03:882 (1,2,3) - would be beneficial flow-wise here to point slider 3 more down, fits nicer imo
00:10:036 (1) - Curve this more? I think it would feel better do actually feel the curve here, plus it would make the transition to the next slider cooler

Like dis

00:40:421 (4,1) - Blanket looks a l i t t l e off, move the bottom point of the slider a bit more left
00:42:729 (3,4,1) - Genius idea
00:46:959 (1) - Starting curve of this looks kinda ugly, the end curve looks good. I'd move the second point more left, but not so much it makes a perfect curve.
01:00:421 (2,3,4) - A rhythm of slider - circle - slider fits nicer here
01:08:498 (1,2) - this would looks so much cooler if they were lined up with each other omg
01:16:575 (3,1) - Slider 1 could benefit from this curve by being lower

[Hard]
This could benefit so much from some longer sliders ;-; Its an overall map thing though. Preference.
00:06:959 (1,2,1,2) - To benefit the motion made by the first three here, id suggest moving that last note to somewhere like x:292 y:56
00:10:036 (1,2,3,4) - Im not a fan of linear flow into a jump, its hard to control momentum and i dont see amazing snappers playing this. I'd move 2 higher to fix this o/

Like dis

00:33:113 (2,3) - ~~Meh harsh angle (even though loads of spare recovery time)~~
00:59:652 (2,3,4) - Point 3's end more left so its in the middle of these notes?

Pretty decent actually. nice.

Lethargy

159 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Lethargy 2015-06-25T21:33:25+00:00

Arphimigon wrote:
Quickie mod

[Hard]
This could benefit so much from some longer sliders ;-; Its an overall map thing though. Preference.
00:06:959 (1,2,1,2) - To benefit the motion made by the first three here, id suggest moving that last note to somewhere like x:292 y:56 - ok
00:10:036 (1,2,3,4) - Im not a fan of linear flow into a jump, its hard to control momentum and i dont see amazing snappers playing this. I'd move 2 higher to fix this o/ somewhat fixed, not really your way though
Like dis
00:33:113 (2,3) - ~~Meh harsh angle (even though loads of spare recovery time)~~
00:59:652 (2,3,4) - Point 3's end more left so its in the middle of these notes? sry no, i like it more the way it is now

Pretty decent actually. nice.

Thanks for mod a lot!

Krfawy

1,374 posts

Joined March 2012

Krfawy 2015-06-25T23:37:20+00:00

#LOL

Julie

1,416 posts

Joined March 2013

Julie 2015-06-25T23:41:54+00:00

Roflmao, Krfawy fast O.O

Reserved, will check by this week, like I told Geronimaa, sorry exam license uwah XD!!

Mortem

690 posts

Joined July 2013

Mortem 2015-06-26T15:46:56+00:00

Fixed blanket & some minor issues.

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Nozhomi

Global Moderator

4,568 posts

Joined May 2013

Nozhomi 2015-06-26T18:32:53+00:00

I don't think CS4 fit really well this Normal with this BPM, and more when Hard have the same CS.
CS3.5 is for me a lot better.

Beautiful skin here.

Wafu

1,703 posts

Joined June 2011

Wafu 2015-06-27T21:47:17+00:00

As I was asked to check this map quite a long time ago, I'll let Julie decide whether he/she should qualify it or me, but I've got few things to point out.

hitcircleoverlay.png, followpoint.png and reversearrow.png must be added to the map so it doesn't blend with skin used by the player. Each element skinned must also contain other elements of its set.
I don't think usage of inconsistent colors was useful at all. You should change colors on Pjecoo's map, they are really bright for the background, while Geronimaa's fit well.
Well, 7.5 AR is quite high considering it is 78 BPM and the song is really calm, I recommend to lower this at least by 0.3. Other settings seem to be fine.
00:33:882 (2) - On Pjecoo's Normal seems to be a little off. Respectively slider ends on downbeat, where another line of piano starts. I recommend to add a circle on 00:33:882 - and move the slider on 00:34:652 - to fill the rhythm better way, obviously, that would avoid NC being placed too late. Also it is the only place where object ends on downbeat.
00:46:959 (1) - On Pjecoo's Normal, just a minor suggestion, but the shape seems a little inconsistent, using double points could help it a little, but as I say, it is minor. http://puu.sh/iF1c7/eb80ecad48.jpg
01:26:959 (5) - New Combo is missing
You must also use border color for sliders because it counts as a set of skin. That means adding SliderBorder: r,g,b (I suggest black, thus SliderBorder: 000,000,000) under [Colors] in .osu file.

I was requested for check at the start, so I'll ask Julie whether she does want to qualify this, respectively, it would be unfair if I just stole his/her qualification, on the other hand it would be unfair if he/she participated only by shooting a heart here, so we have to wait when Julie is active.

Julie

1,416 posts

Joined March 2013

Julie 2015-06-27T23:24:41+00:00

Lol Wafu, I was waiting creator to log on, cuz I found the same issue of sliderborder thing and was going to ask for the skin part to creator XD. Timezone =w= issue so I just sended a pm hours ago~.

Since you said it in thread, welp I don't need to repeat it, so welp I'm going to go point out one more thing on Pjecoo's Normal :
01:26:575 (4,5) - This is the only part that is not near 1.10x spacing, probably because of the SV change here..but you didn't change spacing here 01:29:652 (8,1) - , while these 2 part should be the same.

Thanks Wafu for also checking :3

Mortem

690 posts

Joined July 2013

Mortem 2015-06-28T16:06:37+00:00

Fixed everything, what Wafu & Julie mentioned. Thanks.

code

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: July - Prelude.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 2000
PreviewTime: 25325
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 0.9999999

[Metadata]
Title:Prelude
TitleUnicode:Prelude
Artist:July
ArtistUnicode:줄라이
Creator:Geronimaa
Version:Pjecoo's Normal
Source:
Tags:calm piano chill pjecoo
BeatmapID:718384
BeatmapSetID:320912

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:4
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:1.5
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"sakura+shinto.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

[TimingPoints]
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25421,-100,4,2,1,37,0,0
83882,-100,4,2,1,27,0,0
86959,-108.695652173913,4,2,1,22,0,0
88498,-100,4,2,1,17,0,0
90036,-108.695652173913,4,2,1,12,0,0
94652,-108.695652173913,4,2,1,7,0,0


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Combo2 : 255,128,128
Combo3 : 128,0,0
Combo4 : 255,176,200

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Wafu

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Wafu 2015-06-29T16:27:25+00:00

In a conclusion, everything what we mentioned should be now fine. I consulted with Julie about who should qualify the map and we ended up with letting Geronimaa decide. He's chosen Julie for <insert a reason, because that does not matter>. I or Geronimaa will tell her to qualify it.

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Lethargy

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Topic Starter

Lethargy 2015-06-29T17:18:31+00:00

Wafu wrote:
In a conclusion, everything what we mentioned should be now fine. I consulted with Julie about who should qualify the map and we ended up with letting Geronimaa decide. He's chosen Julie for <insert a reason, because that does not matter>. I or Geronimaa will tell her to qualify it.

Ive chosen Julie cuz she is girl. Grow some breasts Wafu.

Wafu

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Wafu 2015-06-29T17:23:05+00:00

What if I am pettanko?

Julie

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Julie 2015-06-29T17:24:42+00:00

LOLOLOL!!!! Wafu, go drink moar soya milk :>!!!

Fixed some spacing issue on normal, everything look fine now <3!!

TAKE MY HEART!

Lethargy

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Topic Starter

Lethargy 2015-06-29T17:28:47+00:00

Flat is justice

Mortem

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Mortem 2015-06-29T17:31:24+00:00

Yay. \ w /

Kyouren

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Kyouren 2015-06-29T17:51:22+00:00

Gratzz~ :3

Wafu

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Wafu 2015-06-29T18:34:01+00:00

Oh, yeah gratz for your first qualified map :3

Lethargy

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Topic Starter

Lethargy 2015-06-29T21:09:39+00:00

thanks all

Anxient

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Anxient 2015-06-29T23:19:45+00:00

congratz on qualification o3o

Haruto

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Haruto 2015-06-30T04:38:01+00:00

yay more July's Instruments <3
Grats on Qualified <3

Shiranai

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Shiranai 2015-06-30T05:38:31+00:00

Just a quick question,

Why not use a single followpoint.png? I don't think followpoint-0.png up to followpoint-7.png will give any diffrences to the gameplay or the skin itself imo,
As the Skinning said something like this,

Unless it's sliderb.png then I guess it's fine to have sliderb0.png up to sliderb9.png for animation purpose, furthermore the size of the .osz will slightly smaller if you use a single followpoint.png

Please no hate, because overall your work is so lovely on this one ❤️

XinCrin

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XinCrin 2015-06-30T05:42:57+00:00

Mako Sakata wrote:
Just a quick question,

Why not use a single followpoint.png? I don't think followpoint-0.png up to followpoint-7.png will give any diffrences to the gameplay or the skin itself imo,

Are you sure? o:
followpoint 0-2 Fade-in
followpoint 3-6 (the followpoint lol)
followpoint 7 fade out

but using a single followpoint , looks cool too. Not a valid reason to dq anyways

Shiranai

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Shiranai 2015-06-30T05:44:44+00:00

Yeah because I'm just curious want to know, that's all

meii18

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meii18 2015-06-30T07:29:17+00:00

Congratulations Geronimaa and Pjecoo

Lethargy

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Topic Starter

Lethargy 2015-06-30T08:40:38+00:00

Mako Sakata wrote:
Yeah because I'm just curious want to know, that's all

Because I like it this way.

Thanks again to everyone else

Shiranai

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Shiranai 2015-06-30T08:45:31+00:00

Okay then, congrats on ranked hihi

Lethargy

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Lethargy 2015-06-30T08:51:44+00:00

Thanks

, your July maps inspired to make my own July maps

Wafu

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Wafu 2015-06-30T09:23:39+00:00

Mako Sakata wrote:
Just a quick question,

Why not use a single followpoint.png? I don't think followpoint-0.png up to followpoint-7.png will give any diffrences to the gameplay or the skin itself imo,
As the Skinning said something like this,

Unless it's sliderb.png then I guess it's fine to have sliderb0.png up to sliderb9.png for animation purpose, furthermore the size of the .osz will slightly smaller if you use a single followpoint.png

Please no hate, because overall your work is so lovely on this one ❤️

First column where is "Yes" means animatable, thus followpoint0 etc. is fine.

Nomination Assessment Team

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Joined August 2014

Nomination Assessment Team 2015-07-03T18:16:32+00:00

Disqualification Notice

Hello!

Unfortunately, the Quality Assurance Team has decided to disqualify this beatmap. The following is a list of reasons and examples for the disqualification. We do not outline every issue in detail, so make sure to take the idea behind each reason and apply it to the entire beatmap as issues might be found in more than the spots mentioned below. If you have any questions, please reply to this post and we will do our best to clarify any misunderstandings.

General

Hitsound delay

As you can see here, soft-hitnormal.wav is delayed by almost 10ms which is out of the acceptable 5ms-range. Please use a file without said delay.

If you happen to have concerns about this disqualification, you can contest the decision with this form. Before using this form, please read the instructions carefully.

The Beatmap Nominators may handle this mapset after the issues have been addressed.

Good luck!

###A

Gordon123

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Gordon123 2015-07-03T18:16:58+00:00

^ really