YamiHikari wrote:
Give yourself time,
and idk if this is good advice butWhat if you try autopilotdrago1337 wrote:
-rly focus on approach circle (then i forgotting to click xD)
oh gonna try it never used it^^
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oh gonna try it never used it^^
Adjusting offset should be a solution
Look, you're not going to get better accuracy with odd tactics. If you want harsh, but good training, just edit the map's "OD" to 9 or 10. This means you have less milliseconds to hit a 300, meaning that it's going to be more difficult. Like I said, very hard, but it might be worth a shot. Do it on maps that you're comfortable with as well. Not really sure if this falls under "Forcing limits" but try it nonetheless.
Another strategy that has worked for me recently is not letting slider ends go early. This is a bit more complex to practise, so I'd just stick with changing the OD for now.
Another strategy that has worked for me recently is not letting slider ends go early. This is a bit more complex to practise, so I'd just stick with changing the OD for now.
This as well.StarrStyx wrote:
Adjusting offset should be a solution
t/8899DahplA wrote:
Look, you're not going to get better accuracy with odd tactics. If you want harsh, but good training, just edit the map's "OD" to 9 or 10. This means you have less milliseconds to hit a 300, meaning that it's going to be more difficult. Like I said, very hard, but it might be worth a shot. Do it on maps that you're comfortable with as well. Not really sure if this falls under "Forcing limits" but try it nonetheless.
Another strategy that has worked for me recently is not letting slider ends go early. This is a bit more complex to practise, so I'd just stick with changing the OD for now.This as well.StarrStyx wrote:
Adjusting offset should be a solution
Topic Starter
StarrStyx wrote:
Adjusting offset should be a solution
global or search perfect one for map?
global, a local one won't make sense in the majority of cases.drago1337 wrote:
StarrStyx wrote:
Adjusting offset should be a solution
global or search perfect one for map?
Changing global offset is a stupid way to fixing accuracy issues. You are better off working on fixing it yourself.
Sort your maps by difficulty and start SSing them from the easiest. Dont skip any map no matter how easy or annoying you find it. After you reach something like 3* edit maps you usually play to OD10 and try to get highest possible accuracy. This will majorly increase your accuracy but its slow and annoying.
Increase effects volume to 100%.
Fix your old scores. When I started learning to acc, I went to the bottom of my top ranks and looked for the easiest map to fix. This should be motivating because your accuracy and PP will go up from every score you improve.
Play maps easier than what you usually play. You mentioned 3-6 stars, but you should probably stick to ~3.2-4.2 stars for a while.
HK_'s SS farming suggestion is pretty good too. SS or quit.
Fix your old scores. When I started learning to acc, I went to the bottom of my top ranks and looked for the easiest map to fix. This should be motivating because your accuracy and PP will go up from every score you improve.
Play maps easier than what you usually play. You mentioned 3-6 stars, but you should probably stick to ~3.2-4.2 stars for a while.
HK_'s SS farming suggestion is pretty good too. SS or quit.
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listen to the hitsounds and make sure they're synced with the music
it's the only way you can get good acc
there's a ~20ms variable (yes) time window when the hitsounds sound synced to the music. you just need to succeed as often as possible and use this as a reference point to click the same way next time and maintain equal intervals between clicks
now
enjoy your free pp
listen to the hitsounds and make sure they're synced with the music
it's the only way you can get good acc
there's a ~20ms variable (yes) time window when the hitsounds sound synced to the music. you just need to succeed as often as possible and use this as a reference point to click the same way next time and maintain equal intervals between clicks
now
enjoy your free pp
it's not unusual
learn to move fingers to the beat, start with lower bpms
don't look so much at the end result, concentrate on the circles in front of you and be happy when you deal with them in a way you want to
it's the small things you have to practice and when you have gotten decent at every small thing there is in a map you do consistently well in it
learn to move fingers to the beat, start with lower bpms
don't look so much at the end result, concentrate on the circles in front of you and be happy when you deal with them in a way you want to
it's the small things you have to practice and when you have gotten decent at every small thing there is in a map you do consistently well in it
Topic Starter
ok i just played about 1 hour with autopilot
30 mins ar 9 acc71-82%
30 mins ar8 dt acc 80-89%
noticed that im clicking when cursor reach number in ciircle
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t/8899
Tries
no offset
1 86%acc 6 green
2 88%acc 4green 1 blue
3 77%acc 11 geen error:-38,52ms~~+0.00ms
4 92%acc 2green 1 blue error -25,12ms~~+11,75ms
5 88%acc 6 green error: -27,12ms~~+6.00ms
offset -10ms
1 95%acc 2 green error -27,47~~+7.01ms unstable rate lower by 80
2 98%acc 1 green error -16,47~~+14,58ms unstable lower by 14 (total 94)
3 100%acc error -11,93ms~~8,86ms unstable rate 124.16 (lower by 199)
-break 10 mins-
4 98% 1 green -27.00ms~~+13.00ms unstable rate 250
5 98% 1 green -18,90~~+13,56ms 187,75
offset -20
1 100%acc -26,55~~+12ms 215.51
2 98% 1green -24,35~~15,89 227,71
3 98% 1 green -23.53~~14.64 229,37
4 98% 1 green -20,76~~13.07 197,58
5 100% -17.50~~17,64 218,70
offset -15
1 100% -17.06~~10,27 173
2 100% -14,92~~15,56 168,86
3 100% -18,38~~14,15 197,54
4 100% -21,50~~8,22 187
5 100% -15,20~~ 16,22 173
looks like offset ~~-17 is best for me but i will play with -15 and see what happend
tested on Neople - Evil Tower 1 [Difficult] 86,90% 65green 1 blue (before offset)
1 94,97%acc -20,25~~19.41 258.02 29 green 1 blue
2 96.70%acc
WAY BETTER in random clicks but getting slider breaks and green in slider circle slider.
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30 mins ar 9 acc71-82%
30 mins ar8 dt acc 80-89%
noticed that im clicking when cursor reach number in ciircle
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t/8899
Tries
no offset
1 86%acc 6 green
2 88%acc 4green 1 blue
3 77%acc 11 geen error:-38,52ms~~+0.00ms
4 92%acc 2green 1 blue error -25,12ms~~+11,75ms
5 88%acc 6 green error: -27,12ms~~+6.00ms
offset -10ms
1 95%acc 2 green error -27,47~~+7.01ms unstable rate lower by 80
2 98%acc 1 green error -16,47~~+14,58ms unstable lower by 14 (total 94)
3 100%acc error -11,93ms~~8,86ms unstable rate 124.16 (lower by 199)
-break 10 mins-
4 98% 1 green -27.00ms~~+13.00ms unstable rate 250
5 98% 1 green -18,90~~+13,56ms 187,75
offset -20
1 100%acc -26,55~~+12ms 215.51
2 98% 1green -24,35~~15,89 227,71
3 98% 1 green -23.53~~14.64 229,37
4 98% 1 green -20,76~~13.07 197,58
5 100% -17.50~~17,64 218,70
offset -15
1 100% -17.06~~10,27 173
2 100% -14,92~~15,56 168,86
3 100% -18,38~~14,15 197,54
4 100% -21,50~~8,22 187
5 100% -15,20~~ 16,22 173
looks like offset ~~-17 is best for me but i will play with -15 and see what happend
tested on Neople - Evil Tower 1 [Difficult] 86,90% 65green 1 blue (before offset)
1 94,97%acc -20,25~~19.41 258.02 29 green 1 blue
2 96.70%acc
WAY BETTER in random clicks but getting slider breaks and green in slider circle slider.
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1) Offset for maps, even some pro players use it and adjust for each map (eg. Rafis have diffrent offset for each map afair).
2) Try to play HD on already almost fced maps, it force you to play via music beats since you don't see appraoch circles. If you never played it, might be difficult at start but you will get used.
My acc was around 93% before i went into serious training it. On day where i started fcing all prepapred songs for few pp, my acc went from 93% to 96% including some songs made with 99%+ acc. Mainly becouse i was playing mostly HD on all maps (including higer training diffs).
Never give up my friend!
2) Try to play HD on already almost fced maps, it force you to play via music beats since you don't see appraoch circles. If you never played it, might be difficult at start but you will get used.
My acc was around 93% before i went into serious training it. On day where i started fcing all prepapred songs for few pp, my acc went from 93% to 96% including some songs made with 99%+ acc. Mainly becouse i was playing mostly HD on all maps (including higer training diffs).
Never give up my friend!
I had an acc problem once. Then I looked at the approach circles.
I still have one.
I still have one.
Someone with worse acc than me wtf is this real life?
I'm sorry
I'm sorry
Someone can be a godlike fc'er who will FC almost every map at first try but not have good acc, everyone is a human. We all work on our weaknesses to be closer into true warrior status and enter skillwise maps Valhalla land.
For you, simple advice - Play fuckin more.Kheldragar wrote:
I had an acc problem once. Then I looked at the approach circles.
I still have one.
One of these days I will actually play more.
You're going to get the same advice that the other 2-3 people making this exact same thread have received.
Play more, stop playing maps that are too hard for you, listen to hitsounds.
Play more, stop playing maps that are too hard for you, listen to hitsounds.
I feel this doesn't help at all unless you already have decent acc. It's best to just focus on the hitsounds more, if it sounds on-beat and you're not hitting late or early you should be able to hear it in the tapping.DahplA wrote:
Look, you're not going to get better accuracy with odd tactics. If you want harsh, but good training, just edit the map's "OD" to 9 or 10. This means you have less milliseconds to hit a 300, meaning that it's going to be more difficult.
Now your turn to motivate me into playing, i am so lazy ;_;Kheldragar wrote:
One of these days I will actually play more.
Practising with autopilot will only make you better at autopilot. Do not do this. The game requires both hand coordination (unless you're mouse only) and so you need to practise without AP.
Play easier maps.
Play easier maps.
You get better at what you practice.
If you're getting 100's and 50's all the time, that's what you will improve at.
I'd try going back to maps that you can easily fc and with a bit of challenge get 99%+, even if you have to go back to 2-3 star maps.
slowly increase difficulty from there while maintaining a high standard for acc.
I'm not a pro at this game, but I have taken a few psychology courses and know a bit about how learning and muscle memory works.
If you're getting 100's and 50's all the time, that's what you will improve at.
I'd try going back to maps that you can easily fc and with a bit of challenge get 99%+, even if you have to go back to 2-3 star maps.
slowly increase difficulty from there while maintaining a high standard for acc.
I'm not a pro at this game, but I have taken a few psychology courses and know a bit about how learning and muscle memory works.
ZenithPhantasm
Write a report pls._entropic wrote:
You get better at what you practice.
If you're getting 100's and 50's all the time, that's what you will improve at.
I'd try going back to maps that you can easily fc and with a bit of challenge get 99%+, even if you have to go back to 2-3 star maps.
slowly increase difficulty from there while maintaining a high standard for acc.
I'm not a pro at this game, but I have taken a few psychology courses and know a bit about how learning and muscle memory works.
Topic Starter
ok on next day:
1 changed hitsound volume t o100%
2 same map same offset 89% (welcome back) even after 13 tries nothing changed, problem in slider circle slider made by offset disapear automaticaly, other offsets -30 to +30 no use same effect
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sort by difficult(always on), starting from maps easy to fc 99%+ not working, starting from lowest of my top score not working.
forgot to write:
a lot of my maps(3-6*) i fced in first try with shitty acc, 1-3* maps i doing in 99.80%-100%(max 1-2 green) its sth between 1-3 to 3-6 what i dont have or dont understand
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blue per map its no more than 5 usualy 2 or 0, problem is a lot of green
1 changed hitsound volume t o100%
2 same map same offset 89% (welcome back) even after 13 tries nothing changed, problem in slider circle slider made by offset disapear automaticaly, other offsets -30 to +30 no use same effect
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sort by difficult(always on), starting from maps easy to fc 99%+ not working, starting from lowest of my top score not working.
forgot to write:
a lot of my maps(3-6*) i fced in first try with shitty acc, 1-3* maps i doing in 99.80%-100%(max 1-2 green) its sth between 1-3 to 3-6 what i dont have or dont understand
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blue per map its no more than 5 usualy 2 or 0, problem is a lot of green
Topic Starter
pandaBee wrote:
You're going to get the same advice that the other 2-3 people making this exact same thread have received.
Play more, stop playing maps that are too hard for you, listen to hitsounds.I feel this doesn't help at all unless you already have decent acc. It's best to just focus on the hitsounds more, if it sounds on-beat and you're not hitting late or early you should be able to hear it in the tapping.DahplA wrote:
Look, you're not going to get better accuracy with odd tactics. If you want harsh, but good training, just edit the map's "OD" to 9 or 10. This means you have less milliseconds to hit a 300, meaning that it's going to be more difficult.
1 play more - 10 months 0 effect
2 they are not hard i see em i clicking em without problem i understand em!
3 some times working giving max +1%acc sometimes no use
4 OD not working
It's not something you fix in one day or even a week. Also the peppy timing map is not meant to be played. Play lower bpm songs that your fingers are physically capable of tapping easily and concentrate on tapping accurately.
Give it time and practice and you'll get better at it. I've been practicing starting streams with my other finger for a bit over half an year (as warmup when fingers feel retarded) and it's still akward at higher bpms and a bit rarer patterns.
Stars are irrelevant when you want to practice finger control. It's just the tapping that matters.
Give it time and practice and you'll get better at it. I've been practicing starting streams with my other finger for a bit over half an year (as warmup when fingers feel retarded) and it's still akward at higher bpms and a bit rarer patterns.
Stars are irrelevant when you want to practice finger control. It's just the tapping that matters.
My way was a mental thing(only works if you are hitting early): each beatmap is comprised of many small bits in which i mean that bits are seperated by pauses longer than a 1/2 or more. Now if you have the speed to play the map then it doesn't matter when you hit the first note, all of your hits(edit: after the first one) lets say on jumps should be centered on the error bar. Now the trick for me was to force myself to wait a little before every first note of a part and afterwards get all 300. Doesn't work for streaming though.
Topic Starter
FlyingKebab wrote:
My way was a mental thing(only works if you are hitting early): each beatmap is comprised of many small bits in which i mean that bits are seperated by pauses longer than a 1/2 or more. Now if you have the speed to play the map then it doesn't matter when you hit the first note, all of your hits(edit: after the first one) lets say on jumps should be centered on the error bar. Now the trick for me was to force myself to wait a little before every first note of a part and afterwards get all 300. Doesn't work for streaming though.
this one seems to be rly helpful i just watched few of my replays in half time and noticed a lot of notes i hitted to fast i remember that long time ago i fixed it but it come back.
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jaaakb wrote:
It's not something you fix in one day or even a week. Also the peppy timing map is not meant to be played. Play lower bpm songs that your fingers are physically capable of tapping easily and concentrate on tapping accurately.
Give it time and practice and you'll get better at it. I've been practicing starting streams with my other finger for a bit over half an year (as warmup when fingers feel retarded) and it's still akward at higher bpms and a bit rarer patterns.
Stars are irrelevant when you want to practice finger control. It's just the tapping that matters.
ok i'll dl 1k 2-3 stars maps, sort by difficult fc em with 99%+acc by order: -index finger -ring finger -alternating per map
if u have any map ideas what i should add to this list please say it will be really helpful
There is still a problem with my method. You might start getting 300's but more often than not it will be on the left edge of the error bar. So it is best to edit maps to OD10 and play those quite a bit while keeping the pauses in mind. If you get used to hovering on the outer edge of 300's on OD10 then <OD9 should become quite a bit easier to get at least 95% on.
Topic Starter
No matter what OD it have at end it coming back to starting point, after month of tryhard with OD 10 it provided slight better scores but only for few days.... in my bar it looks like that ------|------ (only 300 meter) its on second - with offset -15ms in becoming near middle but coming moments when there is way more notes to click then i starting click too fast (green field) or perfectly in middle (300), for random and forcing focus some times i just clicking too late (right side) ofc by OD 10 it went overall to middle but not for long.FlyingKebab wrote:
There is still a problem with my method. You might start getting 300's but more often than not it will be on the left edge of the error bar. So it is best to edit maps to OD10 and play those quite a bit while keeping the pauses in mind. If you get used to hovering on the outer edge of 300's on OD10 then <OD9 should become quite a bit easier to get at least 95% on.
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/102782 https://osu.ppy.sh/b/80820 https://osu.ppy.sh/b/156026 https://osu.ppy.sh/b/158520 https://osu.ppy.sh/b/173578&m=0 https://osu.ppy.sh/b/48926 https://osu.ppy.sh/b/159851 https://osu.ppy.sh/b/359216 https://osu.ppy.sh/b/97823 https://osu.ppy.sh/b/101901 https://osu.ppy.sh/b/134735
Hopefully there's somethign fun/challenging there
Object count/min and bpm are much more relevant than stars when you try to find stuff to practice acc on. (150/200 per min means there's a decent amount of stuff)
Just find something fun to play, dl all the beatmap packs if you feel like having a ton of maps to choose from.
Hopefully there's somethign fun/challenging there
Object count/min and bpm are much more relevant than stars when you try to find stuff to practice acc on. (150/200 per min means there's a decent amount of stuff)
Just find something fun to play, dl all the beatmap packs if you feel like having a ton of maps to choose from.
For what concerns accuracy, if it's not an aim or reading problem, u should work on your general tempo understanding imo, i don't know if you ever played an intrument/had anything to do with music if u can understand and follow the basic beat/bpm of the song, it gets easyer to click the note at the right time because u can predict on which instant the note will arrive.
To train that u should try to choose a song with a comfortable speed for you and try to click your keys following the quarters (same speed as bpm), then the eights (double speed as bpm), then the sixteenths (I hope u figured out how it works by now
).
In the beatmap itself try to think more about the relation between the note that you just hitted and the ones that are coming and try to predict if these are 1, 1/2 or 1/4 and hit accordingly.
I hope it makes sense and it's actually useful!
To train that u should try to choose a song with a comfortable speed for you and try to click your keys following the quarters (same speed as bpm), then the eights (double speed as bpm), then the sixteenths (I hope u figured out how it works by now
).In the beatmap itself try to think more about the relation between the note that you just hitted and the ones that are coming and try to predict if these are 1, 1/2 or 1/4 and hit accordingly.
I hope it makes sense and it's actually useful!
Topic Starter
jaaakb wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/102782 https://osu.ppy.sh/b/80820 https://osu.ppy.sh/b/156026 https://osu.ppy.sh/b/158520 https://osu.ppy.sh/b/173578&m=0 https://osu.ppy.sh/b/48926 https://osu.ppy.sh/b/159851 https://osu.ppy.sh/b/359216 https://osu.ppy.sh/b/97823 https://osu.ppy.sh/b/101901 https://osu.ppy.sh/b/134735
Hopefully there's somethign fun/challenging there
Object count/min and bpm are much more relevant than stars when you try to find stuff to practice acc on. (150/200 per min means there's a decent amount of stuff)
Just find something fun to play, dl all the beatmap packs if you feel like having a ton of maps to choose from.
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link not working - https://osu.ppy.sh/b/48926
passed only ar 9 map https://osu.ppy.sh/b/158520
in other maps fingered streams otherwise i couldnt do it
finished stacks even before first approach circle touched hitcircle xD
in DT everything was easier
ok gonna play those maps and everything around it until 99% think this could be solution with no mods and use 2 fingers in streams
I couldn't agree with this more. Nothing really is more motivational than that "I'm going to stomp the crap out of my score" feeling.Barusamikosu wrote:
Fix your old scores. When I started learning to acc, I went to the bottom of my top ranks and looked for the easiest map to fix. This should be motivating because your accuracy and PP will go up from every score you improve.