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ItsLucas
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ItsLucas
General:
The 6/8 beat is honestly hard for beginners to handle. I spent some time handling that too. But, since it's the song's issue, it's kinda.. ok. This still fits the rule
Beginner
01:21:771 - I suggest that you may add a note here
Normal:
It's all good c: I didn't see any problems from my side
Hard
Suggestions: Maybe lower the AR to 7.0?
01:51:579 (1)
01:54:175 (1)
00:24:585 (1)
00:26:685 (1) - Think about Double-spinners. Honestly I see few beatmaps with double-spinners around star 3.5. Use a long one instead? Some people can't react that fast, and maybe scoring some low score on the second one.
Hyper
02:19:206 (2) - Maybe move this slider close to "3" (Distance)
Another445
Seems it's not finished, so I will not mod it now.
Extria

Sorry, it's way too far from my ability. But I think AR9 should be enough... This is already some Expert playing

All in all, this is a well-mapped song. Wish you good luck!!!
Abraxos
855 posts
Joined October 2014
Abraxos
I'll try my hand on the Extra Diff; since it's xi and xi songs are always out of this world.

General

  1. BPM and Offset : ( ✓ ) Lots of BPM changes, and I feel you managed to catch them well.
  2. Aimod : ( ✓ )
  3. Kiai : ( ✓ )
  4. Metadata : ( ✓ )
  5. Hitsound : ( ✓ ) Really nice hitsounding; accentuated certain parts of this song perfectly.
  6. Video : ( ✓ )

Extra

  1. 00:08:877 (1,2,3) - The stream leading onto these three notes are fast; so fast that the player had to awkwardly slow down and move to the left. It could be just me, but I'd prefer a smoother flow. Something like this?
    SPOILER
  2. 00:29:089 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - A horrifying 1/6 stream. But it's extra, so I understand. It's fun to play too.
  3. 01:10:620 (1) - Is this OK? To have this note underneath this slider 01:10:332 (4)
  4. 01:31:194 (3) - The pointy bit of this slider isn't exactly centered. Is this intentional?
  5. 01:33:021 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Why are the notes clumped together here?
  6. 01:51:579 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - This is pure madness. 156 bpm with 1/6 streams roughly means that the player has to tap 936 notes per minute. Which on second thought seems OK to me.

Overall

  1. I love how you managed to bring out the essence of xi in this map; it's hard, fun to play and complements the song really well.
  2. The flow was smooth, the jumps were fun, and the streams really murder people unprepared. Which is what xi songs do.
  3. If this map is going for rank, then I wish you all the best; given how nicely done this was, I don't see how it would be hard to rank this. Well in my opinion though. :)
Fookiz
157 posts
Joined June 2014
Fookiz
:)
Charles445
Elite Mapper II: Aspirant / osu! Paragon
2,881 posts
Joined March 2009
Charles445
Diff's done -> http://puu.sh/j3Tek/f18ba8baf5.osu (Another445)

yay
P o M u T a
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P o M u T a
update your diff!
yay

add tag Charles445 and changed previewpoint. please update!
done Exitra timing.
other diffs wip.
Silent Spica
74 posts
Joined May 2014
Silent Spica
I really love this map! Perfect mapset
P o M u T a
2,284 posts
Joined December 2010
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P o M u T a
thanks \:D/
Tshemmp
1,405 posts
Joined June 2011
Tshemmp
I assume the diff name of Exitra is a typo? One "i" too much?
Also 00:25:062 (1) - why is there a NC here? Every previous slider pair had the same colour, why would you change it here?

Really cool map.

(no kd)
P o M u T a
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P o M u T a
done NC. (i was change timing section, so, i forgot remove NC haha)

and Exitra is E'xi'tra. joke name :D
Tshemmp
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Joined June 2011
Tshemmp
Oh I see, that's creative. :D
Phana
2 posts
Joined February 2013
Phana
This beatmap background. So beautiful! :) :)
Euny
2,274 posts
Joined January 2014
Euny
kei channnn yea, i'm here♥


  • General
  1. disable widescreen support for Charles' diff
  • Standard
  1. 00:12:578 (1,2) - symmetric their pls.
  2. 01:28:129 (3,4) - swap these please there is more fitting for music. also i feel click'able 01:28:706 here. so.. hope you accept this!
  • Hard
  1. 00:12:578 (1,2,3) - i think you can better overlap for these reverse things. how about like this? this really makes good reading for players i guess.
    SPOILER
  2. 03:29:187 - i told this for Charles' diff too. unnecesary green line over red line, since no sv change.
  • Hyper
  1. 00:24:116 (6) - this feels really good but doesnt fit to beatsnap imo. you can see this part from your last diff. and i already told you. so.... hope you fix bit like this
  2. 00:38:803 (1) - i'm sure ctrl G makes really good flow for your hyper diff.
  3. 01:16:014 (2,1) - perfect overlap for perfect seeing.
  4. 01:51:591 (1) - i hope you change like that timeline. cause there is much 1/6 reverse sliders. and this only different length reverse times. so.. i guess you should change this for better reading.
  • Another445
  1. 00:29:092 (2,3,4) - isnt same as 03:19:668 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - here? if its same and agree with me, show me your nice steams or 1/6 reverse to here.
  2. 01:18:322 (3) - ctrl g helps more funny for that shorts i guess. hope you try it.
  3. 02:19:732 - isnt so clickable? how about this timeline? i believe you will make nice pattern for this strong piano sound c:
  4. 03:29:187 - unnecesary green line over red line, since no sv change.
  • Exitra
  1. ar feels bit fast i think 9.3 is fitting for this diff.
  2. 00:24:194 (2) - remove this note cause i cant hear any tempo or piano sound from here
  3. 00:50:822 (1) - rotate this slider with -28 degrees(with selection centre) will helps flow i guess.
  4. 01:25:245 (9) - put nc for this. since you added nc for 01:26:783 (1) - here too? then i think, here is newcombo cycle.
  5. 01:28:226 (5) - cant feel tempo from here. how about remove this?
  6. 01:33:226 (4,5) - to be honesty, these are kill your nice stream flow keichan xD.. i believe you can better placing their. spoiler box is just sample.
    SPOILER
  7. 02:02:681 (1,1,1,1) - oh this spam really confuse i guess. please remove that nc. even they are keep distance.
  8. 02:19:476 - add note please. feels bit pity cause you ignore this strong piano sound.
  9. 03:35:437 (2,3,4) - this too over spacing tbh, lets compare with 03:33:129 (5,6,7,1) -them. so i think this spacing too much..
Beginner really looks great for me.
so... that's it :) !
hope this is helpful... ;)
Charles445
Elite Mapper II: Aspirant / osu! Paragon
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Charles445

Euny wrote:

  • Another445
  1. 00:29:092 (2,3,4) - isnt same as 03:19:668 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - here? if its same and agree with me, show me your nice steams or 1/6 reverse to here.
    Yeah it's like the same part of the song, but uh the first one is not a big stream because the player is just starting. They aren't warmed up yet, and I have to ease them into everything first. So while the beginning is sliders and stuff, the ending is just the full on 1/6 stream. This sorta thing can be seen at 00:36:783 - vs at 03:27:360 -
  2. 01:18:322 (3) - ctrl g helps more funny for that shorts i guess. hope you try it.
    That would be funny lol... but the 4 is pretty far away so I want them to have an easier time getting to it. Also supports counterclockwise spinning motion
  3. 02:19:732 - isnt so clickable? how about this timeline? i believe you will make nice pattern for this strong piano sound c:

    That's a great idea, but I don't know how I'd incorporate it. I'm relying on holding that 1 a lot here... I think it'd be best just to keep it as a slider, even if it does mean a weaker piano hit.
  4. 03:29:187 - unnecesary green line over red line, since no sv change.
    Ahh ok
Thanks for the mod!

Made the hitsounds louder because someone said they were too quiet and I agree.

http://pastebin.com/bWRNBHdN
P o M u T a
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P o M u T a

Euny wrote:

kei channnn yea, i'm here♥


  • General
  1. disable widescreen support for Charles' diff
  • Standard
  1. 00:12:578 (1,2) - symmetric their pls. okay.
  2. 01:28:129 (3,4) - swap these please there is more fitting for music. also i feel click'able 01:28:706 here. so.. hope you accept this! done.
  • Hard
  1. 00:12:578 (1,2,3) - i think you can better overlap for these reverse things. how about like this? this really makes good reading for players i guess.
    SPOILER
    i want keep this. but, bit Trial and error.
  2. 03:29:187 - i told this for Charles' diff too. unnecesary green line over red line, since no sv change. I can't found green line.
  • Hyper
  1. 00:24:116 (6) - this feels really good but doesnt fit to beatsnap imo. you can see this part from your last diff. and i already told you. so.... hope you fix bit like this
    okay.
  2. 00:38:803 (1) - i'm sure ctrl G makes really good flow for your hyper diff. done.
  3. 01:16:014 (2,1) - perfect overlap for perfect seeing. done.
  4. 01:51:591 (1) - i hope you change like that timeline. cause there is much 1/6 reverse sliders. and this only different length reverse times. so.. i guess you should change this for better reading. Different length reverse born fun play. i think no problem this and match song.
  • Another445
  1. 00:29:092 (2,3,4) - isnt same as 03:19:668 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - here? if its same and agree with me, show me your nice steams or 1/6 reverse to here.
  2. 01:18:322 (3) - ctrl g helps more funny for that shorts i guess. hope you try it.
  3. 02:19:732 - isnt so clickable? how about this timeline? i believe you will make nice pattern for this strong piano sound c:
  4. 03:29:187 - unnecesary green line over red line, since no sv change.
  • Exitra
  1. ar feels bit fast i think 9.3 is fitting for this diff. okay.
  2. 00:24:194 (2) - remove this note cause i cant hear any tempo or piano sound from here changed this part.
  3. 00:50:822 (1) - rotate this slider with -28 degrees(with selection centre) will helps flow i guess. keep sorry.
  4. 01:25:245 (9) - put nc for this. since you added nc for 01:26:783 (1) - here too? then i think, here is newcombo cycle. good.
  5. 01:28:226 (5) - cant feel tempo from here. how about remove this? changed rhythm.
  6. 01:33:226 (4,5) - to be honesty, these are kill your nice stream flow keichan xD.. i believe you can better placing their. spoiler box is just sample. umm, no change.
    SPOILER
  7. 02:02:681 (1,1,1,1) - oh this spam really confuse i guess. please remove that nc. even they are keep distance. readable 1/3
  8. 02:19:476 - add note please. feels bit pity cause you ignore this strong piano sound. fixed.
  9. 03:35:437 (2,3,4) - this too over spacing tbh, lets compare with 03:33:129 (5,6,7,1) -them. so i think this spacing too much.. -----
Beginner really looks great for me.
so... that's it :) !
hope this is helpful... ;)
need time. thanks for mods!
Last edited by P o M u T a , edited 2 times in total.
Sync
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Sync
P o M u T a
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P o M u T a
Thanks Sync!!
Sync
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Sync
on Extra:
02:48:771 (2) - This is wrongly snapped. Use 1/8 instead so the note is at 02:48:755 :@)
P o M u T a
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P o M u T a

Sync wrote:

on Extra:
02:48:771 (2) - This is wrongly snapped. Use 1/8 instead so the note is at 02:48:755 :@)
Oops Done!
DeletedUser_1574070
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Beginner

01:23:706 (5) - これをちょっと曲げればいい流れになると思う http://puu.sh/kejW9/8ed4aaf573.jpg こんな感じで。もうちょい一貫性あげたいなら次出る３番スライダのやつこぴぺすればいい
02:29:476 (3) - これ若干読みにくさあるかも。避けるにはこれかなhttp://puu.sh/kek2y/50361faed3.jpg ＜－この案あんまり良くないと思うから他のもっどで同じこと指摘されてから変えてもいいと思う

Standard

べつにあれを直して欲しいっていうとこはあんま見えなかったけど
こんな短めのスライダ00:30:053 (2) - が多く出てて、スライダだからsdにはあんまり影響与えず難易度高くしているからそれに注意
多分bnとかqatに直接話しかけて聞いてみた方が良いと思う


Hard

01:16:976 (4) - なんか曖昧だからstack。blanketも考えに見たけど流れが良くないから。
03:48:642 (3) - NCかな

Hyper

00:03:655 (3,4) - ctrl G
01:54:861 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - これはきつそう
03:48:899 (2) - １と３の真ん中の置くのも良さそう

Another445

i found nothing

Exitra

00:45:341 (1) - このサークル00:45:148 (6) - にスタックするのは
01:44:860 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6) - これは若干たたきにくかった
02:02:938 (1,1,1) - 順番逆がいいかも
02:57:937 (2,3,4,5) - 完全対称とかどうかな


gl
iyasine
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iyasine
GOD pomu pomu ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ
P o M u T a
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P o M u T a
Thanks IYA IYA :)
Akiyama Mizuki
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Akiyama Mizuki
I remember I promised you a mod for this, this is one hell of a great mapset!

Another445
My (personal) mapping idol Charles, another masterful map there. Just a few minor things.
00:09:347 (3) - I don't really think it has to be curved, it doesn't look good either imo.
00:22:731 (3) - ^
02:48:707 (1,2) - 1/8 you may have missed?
It's so astonishing about how it's done right <3

Exitra
01:44:476 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6) - It's somehow disappointing that there's no hitsound here.
02:01:592 (6,7,1) - Please make the spacing larger. This can be misread as 1/6, especially in this crazy map.
02:34:284 - , 02:34:380 - Not gonna map this hi-hat?
02:36:687 (1,2) - Please make the spacing different between 1/4 and 1/6. This can be misread for high opportunity.
02:46:591 - , 02:46:687 - Same as 2 lines above.
03:06:880 (3) - Ctrl G here? Seems to make more sense of music.
03:21:303 (6,1) - too far imo
Far-out map, and you've done a great job! <3
P o M u T a
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P o M u T a
ty for mods!!
Nathan
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Nathan
hi from iyasine's request

[General]
  1. "PROGRESSIVE" is in tags twice, remove one
[Beginner]
  1. 03:48:610 (2) - Idk if you snapped this on blue tick just to simplify rhythm, but either way it should be 1/3. Considering it's a slider at 156 bpm with over a 1/1 gap to react I think it'll be fine, I've also asked alacat about it
  2. 02:00:245 (1) - Could add a finish on the repeat
[Standard]
  1. same two points as in beginner diff
[Another445]
  1. 01:56:976 (1,2,3,4) - I think angling these a bit differently for a turn would feel a bit better with the pitch increase on 01:56:976 (1), plus the crash on 01:57:361 (1), try something like this?
[Extra]
  • 00:34:187 (1,2) - Isn't this spacing awkwardly low? Players will only hit the head and disregard the rest of the slider so the movement between 00:34:187 (1,2,3) - is a bit weird
  1. 01:03:707 (1,2,3,4) - imo these are a bit too sharp in movement, most similar patterns in this section were wide angled and it feels abrupt coming from 01:02:937 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - which is almost linear
really nice, you can call me back whenever you want :D
Charles445
Elite Mapper II: Aspirant / osu! Paragon
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Charles445

bbj0920 wrote:

I remember I promised you a mod for this, this is one hell of a great mapset!

Another445
My (personal) mapping idol Charles, another masterful map there. Just a few minor things.
00:09:347 (3) - I don't really think it has to be curved, it doesn't look good either imo. I miss sliders like these. I think they look alright!
00:22:731 (3) - ^ I think it'll be more endearing than annoying. Hard to say though, we'll see!
02:48:707 (1,2) - 1/8 you may have missed? Purposefully skipped 02:48:755 - , throwing 1/8 into here would mess some people up pretty bad I think.
It's so astonishing about how it's done right <3
Thanks for the mod! Glad you liked it.

sukiNathan wrote:

hi from iyasine's request

[Another445]
  1. 01:56:976 (1,2,3,4) - I think angling these a bit differently for a turn would feel a bit better with the pitch increase on 01:56:976 (1), plus the crash on 01:57:361 (1), try something like this? Something to think about, for sure. The perpendicular movement off the 2 is a little weird but the reverse in direction to hit the slider after is pretty sick. Hmm. I kinda want the player to just slow down off the 2, focusing on keys more than movement, not really sure what to say about this one. I think I'm gonna keep it like it is, don't want to gamble with perpendicular stuff.
Thanks for the mod!
P o M u T a
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P o M u T a

sukiNathan wrote:

hi from iyasine's request

[General]
  1. "PROGRESSIVE" is in tags twice, remove one done
[Beginner]
  1. 03:48:610 (2) - Idk if you snapped this on blue tick just to simplify rhythm, but either way it should be 1/3. Considering it's a slider at 156 bpm with over a 1/1 gap to react I think it'll be fine, I've also asked alacat about it lol actually my mistake snap. fixed.
  2. 02:00:245 (1) - Could add a finish on the repeat done.
[Standard]
  1. same two points as in beginner diff same.
[Extra]
  • 00:34:187 (1,2) - Isn't this spacing awkwardly low? Players will only hit the head and disregard the rest of the slider so the movement between 00:34:187 (1,2,3) - is a bit weird fixed and more easily.
  1. 01:03:707 (1,2,3,4) - imo these are a bit too sharp in movement, most similar patterns in this section were wide angled and it feels abrupt coming from 01:02:937 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - which is almost linear done. I hope fixed.
really nice, you can call me back whenever you want :D
thanks for modding!!
i have repugnant my diff now. i call later!! :D
Nathan
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Nathan
recheck

[Hyper]
  1. 00:38:322 (3,1) - you should stack these to be consistent with 00:50:341 (3,1) + for readability
[Exitra]
  1. 01:51:078 (2,4) - I can't hear anything on these circles and they don't really accent anything, im sure the rhythm would feel nicer if you deleted them
P o M u T a
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P o M u T a

sukiNathan wrote:

recheck

[Hyper]
  1. 00:38:322 (3,1) - you should stack these to be consistent with 00:50:341 (3,1) + for readability Great.
[Exitra]
  1. 01:51:078 (2,4) - I can't hear anything on these circles and they don't really accent anything, im sure the rhythm would feel nicer if you deleted them i recheck listen to 25% speed sound be careful, so, my answer http://puu.sh/kEAuM/e3a0b2ccde.jpg i can hear (4) part (i added whistle this part, these piano part). if you can't agree this, please call me again!
thanks you!

edit: i found unsnapped 1/6 01:53:835 - . so fixed.
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pomu
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suki
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One of the best maps ever made in the year actually! I felt in love with the map/song.

Really nice job Pomu and Charles!

Qualified!
P o M u T a
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thanks SP :D/
Kyubey
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Great mapset, but I don't think "Another445" is actually an appropriate diffname. :(
Okoratu
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https://osu.ppy.sh/b/723265&m=0
Kyubey
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Rule became not that strict? Things like Nekawaextra and others were prohibited due to nickname relation.
Okoratu
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Either that or that one slipped through lol :D
Yuii-
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You have a lot of red lines having a different volume and sampleset that the green line on the same spot as you can see over here:


Please, check this carefully because they appear a lot of time throughout almost all the difficulties.

More examples: 2 3 4.

Very good mapset, overall! Hope to see it ranked soon! <3
Irreversible
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Yuii- wrote:

You have a lot of red lines having a different volume and sampleset that the green line on the same spot as you can see over here:


Please, check this carefully because they appear a lot of time throughout almost all the difficulties.

More examples: 2 3 4.

Very good mapset, overall! Hope to see it ranked soon! <3
^ Should be fixed up!

I also talked to you ingame to fix some NCs.

Good luck with further processing!
P o M u T a
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fixed these. thanks!
Charles > i fixed your volume and Sample set 1 point your diff.
Secretpipe
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After that DQ , Pomu fixed greenlines!

He also changed the placement of a slider!

This should be ready to go :)
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