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Sangzin

Side wrote:

Hi for the M4M


SPOILER
I wasn't able to play this because it's really cold here and 260bpm is 2fast4me so can't confirm playability on some sections :(


[Materialthing]

00:36:128 (1) - This would make more sense imo if it was stacked over 00:36:590 (2) - since it's a different vocal sound and it would be cool to have movement there over to the slider instead of having a jump upward. - Keep this. I have same pattern on Realize diff, and I don't like stacking like that

00:43:513 (1) - Maybe consider moving to x:376 y:200. Would have 2.0 spacing still and sort of be blanketted by 00:41:666 (3) - - I want to this circles on upwards.

00:56:897 (3,4) - Looks like it flows awkwardly. As mentioned above I can't really test this cuz it's sooo coooold here but you take a circular flow from 00:56:436 (1,2,3) - and then suddenly snap to 4 which isn't following this flow. Doesn't feel right and nothing in the song really sounds like a flow break would make sense at least not to me. Can't really think of an easy fix that doesn't require moving the next combo around a bit. But as I said I couldn't test this myself to see how it felt so maybe get a few playtests see how that looks. - Try other pattern.

02:18:243 (2,3) - It would play so nicely if it was if you did a pattern like this. The reason is because with this pattern your fingers do a tapping pattern like this which is okay but it could be better imo. The tapping pattern from the change I made is like this gives it like a doubles tapping rhythm which compliments the violin a bit better. It doesn't have to look like the first screenshot though that was just a quick example. - Nice suggestion. Fixed

03:31:974 (5,6) - Maybe i'm spoiled by scorpiours version but this would be better following the drums in the downbeat by changing this to two 1/2 sliders :/ - Well...I don't think that timing is good.

03:57:128 (1) - Should have whistle on end not in head like 03:49:974 (1,2,3,4) - which is the same area in the rhythm. Plus the piano at 03:57:358 - is much stronger than the one at the red tick anyway. - It's true, but I put whistle with violin sound. Although I also put whistle on piano sound, If i put that whistle, It sounds weird and it's secondary I put whistle on piano sounds.

04:09:128 (1) - Remove whistle from the body at 04:09:358 - like 04:10:051 (3) - Sounds better too because the piano sound there is very low so not as strong as to be emphasized. - Agree. Fixed

04:25:043 (1,2) - Not sure why this is stacked but the other three at 04:23:197 (1,2) - 04:26:889 (1,2) - 04:28:735 (1,2) - aren't. Could easily use 1.0x snap and move it like this and it flow better too. - Nice pointing. Fixed

04:49:735 (3) - Move the middle red node a little so the wavy slider looks better. Moved 3 one tick to the right after so you might need to move 04:50:427 (5) - as well to keep the stack but nothing too hard. - Okay, Fixed

06:50:969 - I wish you had mapped that piano outro seeing as you decided to map the beginning of it anyway :( - Just understand me ;w; It's my private taste.


Pretty good map. Wish I could play it xD maybe later when its not 15 degrees :v


Hope this helps. Good luck! :)
Thanks for your mod! :)
Zectro
hilo! M4M!

[Realize]
00:10:282 (1,1) - I don't like how these are very curved :c
00:29:666 (3) - I don't like this shape for some reason ;-;
00:36:590 (2) - I feel like this should be a long low sv slider and you should delete 00:37:974 (3) - since it's not following anything new as far as I can tell
01:36:589 (3) - This slider is unexpected and doesn't fit at all while playing, consider replacing it with circles.
01:43:974 (3) - At least make it close to symmetric, http://puu.sh/lQgA1/d919787901.jpg
01:52:743 (1,2) - Blanket these better
01:54:589 (1) - I don't like this shape either, it's too curved
02:01:974 (1,2) - I immediately saw that something was off about these sliders that made them look different and not visually appealing, consider deleting the red anchor point and make them curved with only 1 grey anchor point
02:02:666 (3,4) - Try getting these to be the same shape, would look way more cleaner
02:41:205 (3,4) - This feels weird, it may just be that I am used to the other image material or something?
02:43:051 (3,4) - ^
02:53:666 (1,3) - put them at the same height, so 02:54:128 (3) - down a little
03:13:051 (1,1) - These overlapping like that doesn't look too good :c
03:13:051 (1,1) - Perfect stack?
03:36:820 (4) - Make this shape better so it looks more beautiful from 03:36:589 (3) -
05:37:043 (1,2,3,4) - Looks kinda bad that these are touching but I guess you can't do much about it
06:19:735 - Maybe add a note here, and stack it on 06:19:850 (2) - sliderhead?
06:45:364 (1) - I dislike this shape.

GOOD MAP
<3
good luck
Topic Starter
Sangzin

Zectro wrote:

hilo! M4M!

[Realize]
00:10:282 (1,1) - I don't like how these are very curved :c - I don't think so....
00:29:666 (3) - I don't like this shape for some reason ;-; - I don't also know why i make this slider like this
00:36:590 (2) - I feel like this should be a long low sv slider and you should delete 00:37:974 (3) - since it's not following anything new as far as I can tell - Consider it. I can't find the best way to fix.
01:36:589 (3) - This slider is unexpected and doesn't fit at all while playing, consider replacing it with circles. - Keep it for now. I love that pattern. looks really clean
01:43:974 (3) - At least make it close to symmetric, http://puu.sh/lQgA1/d919787901.jpg - Wait. what that ugly slider...?!
01:52:743 (1,2) - Blanket these better - Fixed
01:54:589 (1) - I don't like this shape either, it's too curved - nah. I like this slider
02:01:974 (1,2) - I immediately saw that something was off about these sliders that made them look different and not visually appealing, consider deleting the red anchor point and make them curved with only 1 grey anchor point - Alight, Fixed
02:02:666 (3,4) - Try getting these to be the same shape, would look way more cleaner - Try something different.
02:41:205 (3,4) - This feels weird, it may just be that I am used to the other image material or something?
02:43:051 (3,4) - ^ - uhh......maybe?
02:53:666 (1,3) - put them at the same height, so 02:54:128 (3) - down a little - copied (3).
03:13:051 (1,1) - These overlapping like that doesn't look too good :c - But i want to keep that blankets ;w;
03:13:051 (1,1) - Perfect stack? - Looks you mean 03:13:974 (1,1) - , so stacked perfectly.
03:36:820 (4) - Make this shape better so it looks more beautiful from 03:36:589 (3) - - Hope this is what you want.
05:37:043 (1,2,3,4) - Looks kinda bad that these are touching but I guess you can't do much about it - looks no problem imo.
06:19:735 - Maybe add a note here, and stack it on 06:19:850 (2) - sliderhead? - Circle sounds bad to me.
06:45:364 (1) - I dislike this shape.Best slider shape 2015 What i'm saying...?

GOOD MAP
<3
good luck
Thanks!! :)
CLSW
캐치 탑랭들이 pp 파밍 해야된다고 이거좀 빨리 어프시켜달래요 ㅋㅋㅋ
Topic Starter
Sangzin

CLSW wrote:

캐치 탑랭들이 pp 파밍 해야된다고 이거좀 빨리 어프시켜달래요 ㅋㅋㅋ

서둘러야겠네.... 너무 느긋하게 랭시키려고 해서 죄송합니다
바로 븡 불러봐야겠네요 는 fail
lolia
Hi, :3

  • General
  1. In CLSW's diff :

  • Materialize
  1. 00:19:628 (1) - 스피너가 살짝 애매하게 끊겨서 끝부분 소리 죽이는것도 괜찮을꺼같네요
  2. 01:07:282 (3) - 앞뒤 DS가 뒤바뀐 느낌입니다. 음악상으론 (3,1)쪽 DS를 더 크게 줘야 어울릴꺼같네요. 당장 고칠수 있는 방법으론 (131, 163)쯤으로 옮기는것정도..
  3. 01:33:589 (6) - 음,, 저라면 바로 뒤의 01:35:205 (1) - 이 뉴콤과 느낌을 비슷하게 주려고 여기도 뉴콤 넣었을꺼같은데.. (뒤의 같은 곳들도 마찬가지)
  4. 01:52:512 (8,9) - 바로앞보단 비교적 잔잔해서 점프노트보단 1/2 슬라가 더 어울릴꺼같은데.. 고치긴 어렵겠죠
  5. 02:07:108 (4) - 바로앞의 리듬이 1/1까지 느슨해져서 이거 지우고 1/2로 가시는게 좋을꺼같은데 이부분은 애매하네요
  6. 02:17:666 (1,2,1,2,3) - 음,, 지금 상태로는 이도저도아닌, 뭔가 반반씩 섞어놓은듯한 굉장히 애매한 리듬이라 생각되네요.. 바로 앞의 리듬 패턴을 유지하시거나 아니면 이런식으로 확실하게 구분지어놓는게 낫지않을까요
  7. 03:07:512 (1,2) - 뉴콤 (2)에 넣어주세요, 03:04:051 (1) - 여기처럼..
  8. 03:49:974 (1,2,3,4) - 개인적으로 2개씩 묶는것보단 1 / 2,3,4 로 묶는게 나을꺼같네요, 음악상..
  9. 04:03:589 (5,1) - 음악상 (5)에서 뉴콤을 시작하는게 맞아보입니다
  10. 04:05:435 (1) - 앞과 비교했을때 콤보가 너무 길어지네요
  11. 04:53:773 (2) - (42, 293)
  12. 05:43:273 (9,10,11,12) - 반대로 뒤집어주시는게..
  13. 06:10:620 (4) - (13, 126)
  14. 06:12:927 - 노트 추가
  15. 06:17:427 (4,5,1) - 간격 맞춰주는게 편할꺼같네요
  16. 06:17:658 (1) - 여기 콤보 갑자기 짧아지네요..
  17. 06:22:504 (2) - (296, 171)? 뒤의 1/4랑 너무 따로 노는듯한 느낌이 들어서..

Sorry for poor modding, GL!
Topic Starter
Sangzin

Karia wrote:

Hi, :3

  • General
  1. In CLSW's diff : - 헐 ㅁㅊ

  • Materialize
  1. 00:19:628 (1) - 스피너가 살짝 애매하게 끊겨서 끝부분 소리 죽이는것도 괜찮을꺼같네요 - 수정
  2. 01:07:282 (3) - 앞뒤 DS가 뒤바뀐 느낌입니다. 음악상으론 (3,1)쪽 DS를 더 크게 줘야 어울릴꺼같네요. 당장 고칠수 있는 방법으론 (131, 163)쯤으로 옮기는것정도.. - 오 좋은 배치네요 수정
  3. 01:33:589 (6) - 음,, 저라면 바로 뒤의 01:35:205 (1) - 이 뉴콤과 느낌을 비슷하게 주려고 여기도 뉴콤 넣었을꺼같은데.. (뒤의 같은 곳들도 마찬가지) - 정작 하위난이도에는 넣었는데 왜 여기는 안넣었....
  4. 01:52:512 (8,9) - 바로앞보단 비교적 잔잔해서 점프노트보단 1/2 슬라가 더 어울릴꺼같은데.. 고치긴 어렵겠죠 - 복붙은 진리입니다 (8)자리에 한번 넣어봤습니다. 조금은 점프 넣어보고 싶기도 하니
  5. 02:07:108 (4) - 바로앞의 리듬이 1/1까지 느슨해져서 이거 지우고 1/2로 가시는게 좋을꺼같은데 이부분은 애매하네요 - 음....일단은 보류해둘게요. 이거 없으면 또 이상한 느낌인지라....
  6. 02:17:666 (1,2,1,2,3) - 음,, 지금 상태로는 이도저도아닌, 뭔가 반반씩 섞어놓은듯한 굉장히 애매한 리듬이라 생각되네요.. 바로 앞의 리듬 패턴을 유지하시거나 아니면 이런식으로 확실하게 구분지어놓는게 낫지않을까요 - 이부분은 슬라이더를 바이올린 소리 나는 데다 넣어서 좀 애매하네요. 애초에 바이올린 소리가 엇박....
  7. 03:07:512 (1,2) - 뉴콤 (2)에 넣어주세요, 03:04:051 (1) - 여기처럼.. - 수정
  8. 03:49:974 (1,2,3,4) - 개인적으로 2개씩 묶는것보단 1 / 2,3,4 로 묶는게 나을꺼같네요, 음악상.. - 수정
  9. 04:03:589 (5,1) - 음악상 (5)에서 뉴콤을 시작하는게 맞아보입니다 - 이건 좀 애매하지만....일단 수정
  10. 04:05:435 (1) - 앞과 비교했을때 콤보가 너무 길어지네요 - (4)에다 뉴콤 넣어봤습니다
  11. 04:53:773 (2) - (42, 293) - 여기는 드럼소리를 좀 강조해보고 싶은 감이 있는지라 냅둘게요
  12. 05:43:273 (9,10,11,12) - 반대로 뒤집어주시는게.. - 이런 흐름이 좋은지라 냅두겠습니다. 사실 마제린식 흐름이라 하더라
  13. 06:10:620 (4) - (13, 126) - 수정
  14. 06:12:927 - 노트 추가 - 음....여긴 그렇게 딱히 들리는 음도 없고, 넣는다 해도 어디다 넣어야 될지 없어서 안넣겠습니다.
  15. 06:17:427 (4,5,1) - 간격 맞춰주는게 편할꺼같네요 - 수정
  16. 06:17:658 (1) - 여기 콤보 갑자기 짧아지네요.. - 헐 여기 왜넣었....
  17. 06:22:504 (2) - (296, 171)? 뒤의 1/4랑 너무 따로 노는듯한 느낌이 들어서.. - 수정

Sorry for poor modding, GL!
Thanks for your mod!
And 500th post!!! 예스 오창인생


@CLSW
저거 언스냅 된거는 그냥 제가 고치는 게 빠른 거 같아서 고쳐둡니다.
vitail
NICE BEATMAP

very difficult and fantastic song for osu. 10/10
Monarch
Materialize

00:23:666 (2,3,4) - uneven spacing for very slow part of song

00:59:089 (4,5) - These two don't quite flow together

01:09:128 (3,4,1) - This part doesn't really flow either, maybe move the slider to the other side?

01:29:666 (5,6,7) - Unintentional uneven gap? Slider 1 could be possibly be moved back slightly

01:32:436 (1,2,3) - This gap is also uneven

For this 01:55:743 (2,3,4,2,3,4) - part you may want to remove these circles entirely to match with the vocals of the song which are more prominent that the instruments or turn 01:55:512 (1) - and 01:57:359 (1) - both into sliders

I feel as though the gaps between these sliders should be bigger 01:59:666 (9,10,11,12) -

The final two notes on this slider 02:06:820 (3,4,5) - could be slightly more curved to flow onto the next slider better

02:49:743 (8,1) - very large gap between the end of slider 1 and the start of slider two, at such a high bpm, I think you should either make it a stream that ends in a slider that moves onto the next slider as opposed to away from it if you want a gap, or just ctrl + g the 1st slider slider ((( something like you've done here 03:43:051 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - but with a shorter slider )))



same with this one 04:58:966 (6,1) - (((Although these two may be ignored completely considering the length of the slider means that if you place your cursor in the middle you can complete the whole slider so the distance is not as big as it seems)))

03:13:743 (1,2,1) - Very large, almost random jump that is not really present in any part of the map beforehand

aesthetically this 03:31:282 (4,1,2,3,4,5) - curve does not look very nice and the jump between the last circle and the slider is much larger than the rest of the jumps making the pattern flow even less, just make it a better curve

03:31:282 (4,1,2,3,4,5) - another uneven jump, circle could just be moved further from slider 1 to make it more even, doesn't flow that well

03:41:666 (1,2) - slider doesn't really flow onto the circle, could maybe use a straight slider to match the other straight parts in this pattern 03:40:743 (6,8,9) -

03:45:359 (1,2,3,4) - jumps slightly uneven, maybe move second slider slightly further away

04:04:743 (3,4,5) - maybe rotate this section so that the first circle flows from the slider just before it?

04:53:428 (3,1,2,3) - very drastic spacing change, possibly unneeded entirely

04:58:620 (4,5) - circle doesn't really flow onto slider, maybe move slider slightly up and turn into straight slider

gap between 06:11:081 (6,1) - should be made the same as the gap between 06:10:966 (5,6)

Realize

00:57:820 (3,4,5,6) - pattern is going on the outside of the sliders, if that makes sense, I'd move both sliders 00:57:589 (2,1) - slightly outward so that they flow with the pattern in-between

02:16:282 (1,2) - gap between these two and these two 02:15:820 (1,2) - is much larger than any part of the song prior, maybe shorten slightly, these two 02:19:512 (1,2,1,2) - can stay the same as if you build up the jumps then they're not as unexpected as the sudden jumps in the first pattern

This part 02:54:012 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - has a lot of place where the flow doesn't exactly match up like 03:00:589 (8,9,10,1) - and 02:57:359 (1,3,4) , consider revising the small section (or leaving idk, maybe you like it like that)

03:28:743 (1,2,3) - circle doesn't really flow off first slider

03:56:666 (4,1) - consider doubling the first slider and then shortening the second slider and placing it of the hard note, sounds better

03:58:974 (2) - move this back very slightly (like only one small gird square)

04:01:512 (5,1) - first slighter is meant to be (?) straight, use the grid the make it straighter and then move the second slider slightly down

04:07:974 (2) - move the slider slightly up so that to comes into the circle at the same angle as this one 04:09:128 (1) -

06:43:518 (2,3) - slider doesn't really flow off the circle
Topic Starter
Sangzin

jamiesalvador wrote:

Materialize

00:23:666 (2,3,4) - uneven spacing for very slow part of song - I don:t think so.....

00:59:089 (4,5) - These two don't quite flow together - It flows enugh.

01:09:128 (3,4,1) - This part doesn't really flow either, maybe move the slider to the other side? - Slider has a NC, and externally good flow imo.

01:29:666 (5,6,7) - Unintentional uneven gap? Slider 1 could be possibly be moved back slightly - I slightly put jump on (6,7) since there has big violin sound.

01:32:436 (1,2,3) - This gap is also uneven - Similarly, there has drum-finish hitsound, so i think it's not problem

For this 01:55:743 (2,3,4,2,3,4) - part you may want to remove these circles entirely to match with the vocals of the song which are more prominent that the instruments or turn 01:55:512 (1) - and 01:57:359 (1) - both into sliders - Yeah, I mapped according to vocal, but i have different from each circle distances to emphasize vocal's strong. And sliders doesn't fit for this diff imo.

I feel as though the gaps between these sliders should be bigger 01:59:666 (9,10,11,12) - - Nah. It's enough gap since this songs' bpm is too high, it's almost big.

The final two notes on this slider 02:06:820 (3,4,5) - could be slightly more curved to flow onto the next slider better - I like this straight

02:49:743 (8,1) - very large gap between the end of slider 1 and the start of slider two, at such a high bpm, I think you should either make it a stream that ends in a slider that moves onto the next slider as opposed to away from it if you want a gap, or just ctrl + g the 1st slider slider ((( something like you've done here 03:43:051 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - but with a shorter slider ))) - It's right if you see distance, but if you play this part, you will be realize that in substance this is not big deal. There's no problem for playing. Also, I love this placement like this.



same with this one 04:58:966 (6,1) - (((Although these two may be ignored completely considering the length of the slider means that if you place your cursor in the middle you can complete the whole slider so the distance is not as big as it seems)))
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03:13:743 (1,2,1) - Very large, almost random jump that is not really present in any part of the map beforehand - It's not random jump. (1,2) has additional drum sound, and (2,1) has a big vocal sound.

aesthetically this 03:31:282 (4,1,2,3,4,5) - curve does not look very nice and the jump between the last circle and the slider is much larger than the rest of the jumps making the pattern flow even less, just make it a better curve - This one needs more opinion. I think it's not big problem.

03:31:282 (4,1,2,3,4,5) - another uneven jump, circle could just be moved further from slider 1 to make it more even, doesn't flow that well - as i said above, i followed vocal sound.

03:41:666 (1,2) - slider doesn't really flow onto the circle, could maybe use a straight slider to match the other straight parts in this pattern 03:40:743 (6,8,9) - - I don't feel much that.

03:45:359 (1,2,3,4) - jumps slightly uneven, maybe move second slider slightly further away - This one also need more opinion.

04:04:743 (3,4,5) - maybe rotate this section so that the first circle flows from the slider just before it? - Nah. Now is fine

04:53:428 (3,1,2,3) - very drastic spacing change, possibly unneeded entirely - I don't think. (3,1) has a NC, and (1,2) is that I wanna emphasize drum sound.

04:58:620 (4,5) - circle doesn't really flow onto slider, maybe move slider slightly up and turn into straight slider - I like this unstacking.

gap between 06:11:081 (6,1) - should be made the same as the gap between 06:10:966 (5,6) - No. I have finish on (1) slider

Realize

00:57:820 (3,4,5,6) - pattern is going on the outside of the sliders, if that makes sense, I'd move both sliders 00:57:589 (2,1) - slightly outward so that they flow with the pattern in-between - Pending for now. I have to consider about it.

02:16:282 (1,2) - gap between these two and these two 02:15:820 (1,2) - is much larger than any part of the song prior, maybe shorten slightly, these two 02:19:512 (1,2,1,2) - can stay the same as if you build up the jumps then they're not as unexpected as the sudden jumps in the first pattern - Uh.....This one i'd like to keep. Actually there's nothing to emphasize. right. but so far this has no mentioned (even someone like this), so....I keep this.

This part 02:54:012 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - has a lot of place where the flow doesn't exactly match up like 03:00:589 (8,9,10,1) - and 02:57:359 (1,3,4) , consider revising the small section (or leaving idk, maybe you like it like that) - First I made this diff, I made blanket, shape and distance in priority and this map has been unpleasant, if I fix that stuffs, it will be broken which i have a priority.

03:28:743 (1,2,3) - circle doesn't really flow off first slider - Fixed a little bit

03:56:666 (4,1) - consider doubling the first slider and then shortening the second slider and placing it of the hard note, sounds better - No. I followed violin sound.

03:58:974 (2) - move this back very slightly (like only one small gird square) - Alright

04:01:512 (5,1) - first slighter is meant to be (?) straight, use the grid the make it straighter and then move the second slider slightly down - Sure

04:07:974 (2) - move the slider slightly up so that to comes into the circle at the same angle as this one 04:09:128 (1) - - moved circle instead.

06:43:518 (2,3) - slider doesn't really flow off the circle - Ugh,,,,,,
Sorry for deny all your mods on material diff. I am really self-assertive about that map......
Anyway, Thanks for your mod! :)
Topic Starter
Sangzin
I need BN ;w;
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Sangzin wrote:

I need BN ;w;
븡잡으러 ㄱㄱ
Topic Starter
Sangzin

Neoskylove wrote:

Sangzin wrote:

I need BN ;w;
븡잡으러 ㄱㄱ
못구하겠음.....
Cellina
모딩할 시간이 안되서 그냥 쿠도스 하나 쏴드릴께요
Topic Starter
Sangzin

Reana wrote:

모딩할 시간이 안되서 그냥 쿠도스 하나 쏴드릴께요
읭 감사합니다!근데 저번에도 이러지 않았음? ㅋㅋ
18-21-9
I have tested this beatmap and I enjoyed it.

For me, I think that making a 5 stars beatmap with this song is a great idea because some players like me love this song and can't finish the 7 stars beatmap yet (the one already ranked).
So, once ranked, we can enjoy the song of this beatmap while we have fun playing it.

P.S. I know that the 7 stars beatmap can be finished with training and improving skills. But until then, this beatmap is a good option to practice.
Enon
랭 언제되욘
Topic Starter
Sangzin

Enon wrote:

랭 언제되욘

하이브리드......힘들어요.....
Reillia
님 돌아와요
MBomb
you might want to delete clsw's diff if you plan on reviving this, he moved it to his own set

though if you don't plan on reviving it, i think it's fine to leave it idk
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