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Cororo - Fairy ring

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Kite
osu! Alumni
1,372 posts
Joined July 2009
Topic Starter
Kite
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 31 December 2015 at 11:25:52

Artist: Cororo
Title: Fairy ring
Source: 東方Project
Tags: touhou okoratu jonathanlfj _dog folklore instrumental harmonic c85 chateau bleu riverside comiket 85 strange instruments
BPM: 192
Filesize: 4373kb
Play Time: 02:36
Difficulties Available:
  1. _dog's Hard (3.56 stars, 405 notes)
  2. Easy (1.96 stars, 163 notes)
  3. lfj's Insane (4 stars, 463 notes)
  4. oko's Normal (2.14 stars, 238 notes)
  5. Serenity (5.07 stars, 512 notes)
Download: Cororo - Fairy ring
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
---------------
This song is from a Comiket 85 release by Riverside called "Château Bleu".
It's the 6th and final track of the album and is an arrange of "Strange, Strange Instruments" which is the staff roll theme of Touhou 14: Double Dealing Character.

Thanks a lot for the guest diffs!
Normal by Okoratu
Hard by _dog
Insane by jonathanlfj

Hope you enjoy playing~

Last edited by Kite , edited 37 times in total.
Natteke desu
2,487 posts
Joined August 2012
Natteke desu
ono numbero
Taeyang
Elite Mapper
1,209 posts
Joined June 2013
Taeyang
IRC mod
12:35 Kite: Hey
12:35 Kite: made another map, can you test again? o:
12:35 Taeyang: heya~
12:35 Taeyang: ok
12:35 Kite: <3
12:35 *Kite is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/705760 Cororo - Fairy ring]
12:35 Taeyang: give me np
12:39 Taeyang: wow nice map
12:40 Kite: :D
12:40 Taeyang: i think need more work vol setting XD
12:40 Taeyang: but not bad
12:41 Kite: oh yeah somehow i have trouble with volume
12:41 Taeyang: just intro part a little big
12:41 Kite: i think my settings
12:41 Kite: are more volume on hitsounds than music
12:41 Taeyang: oh ok!
12:41 Kite: but most people have lower hitsounds
12:41 Kite: so it sounds ok to me but maybe too low vol for others
12:42 Kite: tbh its a very simple map
12:42 Taeyang: :)
12:42 Kite: just simple patterns / sliders nothing special haha
12:43 Taeyang: need my suggest?
12:43 Kite: sure if you have time
12:43 Taeyang: 00:00:273 - remove redline?
12:44 Kite: oh i guess i should remove it
12:44 Taeyang: and BG fix 1366 768
12:45 Taeyang: just use dawnbeat NC?
12:45 Taeyang: 00:24:022 (1,4) - change NC
12:46 Taeyang: 00:27:772 (1,3) -
12:46 Taeyang: I agree!
12:46 Taeyang: 00:29:334 (1) - and remove here
12:47 Taeyang: http://puu.sh/i3vPz/7285d03d68.jpg
12:47 Kite: done
12:47 Kite: looks good
12:49 Taeyang: 00:46:053 (1,2,3) -
12:49 Taeyang: 00:42:615 (6,7,8) -
12:49 Taeyang: use same NC
12:49 Taeyang: 00:44:334 (1) - suggest /this slide cut here 00:44:490 -
12:50 Taeyang: and put in note circle here 00:44:647 -
12:50 Taeyang: and there NC
12:50 Taeyang: 00:44:334 (1,2) - i think this make clickable
12:51 Kite: hmm
12:51 Taeyang: 00:54:334 (4,5) - ^
12:51 Taeyang: i just suggest XD
12:51 Kite: i dont think i will change it like that but thanks for pointing it out
12:51 Taeyang: 00:54:803 (5) - NC?
12:52 Taeyang: ok
12:53 Taeyang: your map flow reallyreally good!
12:54 Taeyang: 01:16:522 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - just use same DS?
12:55 Taeyang: 01:21:522 (4) - remove slide whistle
12:56 Taeyang: 01:20:740 (2,3,4) - blanket
12:57 Taeyang: suggest like this
12:57 Taeyang: puush...
12:59 Taeyang: wait...
13:00 Taeyang: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3181501
13:01 Kite: mmh
13:01 Kite: i consider it
13:02 Taeyang: 01:57:928 (6,4) - stack?
13:03 Taeyang: 02:02:772 (2) - NC starthere
13:03 Taeyang: 02:01:834 (4,5,1) - and you can make more funny:D
13:07 Taeyang: this is 5star map it's almost extra lvl map so i will suggest like this
13:07 Taeyang: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3181517
13:07 Taeyang: 02:17:459 (6) - NC?
13:08 Taeyang: 02:20:115 (2,4) - avoid overlap?
13:09 Kite: seems good
13:10 Taeyang: 02:24:647 (6) - head add whistle?
13:11 Taeyang: 02:34:959 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) -  NC like this?
13:11 Taeyang: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3181528
13:11 Taeyang: 02:35:428 (1,2) - here make readable
13:14 Taeyang: 02:29:959 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - NC flow like this?
13:15 Taeyang: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3181535
13:15 Taeyang: there NC 02:30:897 (1,2) -
13:17 Taeyang: nor like this
13:17 Taeyang: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3181542
13:18 Taeyang: i cant so many suggest QAQ my puush dont working :P
13:20 Taeyang: ok icant more find it
13:20 Kite: okay thanks :D
13:20 Taeyang: and can i map test reqeust you?
13:21 Taeyang: my map
13:21 Kite: yeah in a bit
13:21 Kite: link
13:24 Taeyang: i cant send you reason puush broken...
13:24 Taeyang: later
13:33 Kite: oh okay
15:06 Kite: oh
15:06 Kite: can you post irc log?
15:06 Kite: forgot about it
15:07 Taeyang: :��... i dont have it...
15:07 Kite: i still got it open
15:07 Kite: sec

Funny map :)
Heanday
521 posts
Joined December 2012
Heanday
I love you !
lolcubes
osu! Alumni
4,437 posts
Joined November 2010
lolcubes
That sad 4/4. :D

Timing:
SPOILER
19022,312.5,6,2,2,80,1,0
30272,312.5,11,2,2,80,1,0
36522,312.5,5,2,2,80,1,0
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80269,312.5,11,2,2,80,1,0
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104018,312.5,5,2,2,80,1,0
110268,312.5,11,2,2,80,1,0
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134955,312.5,5,2,2,80,1,0
138080,312.5,11,2,2,80,1,0
148392,312.5,5,2,2,80,1,0
153079,312.5,6,2,2,80,1,0

Can't just copypaste from Timing window as it doesn't copy the signatures.

Just remember to re-do all your green lines.
I have removed the first timing point as it's really difficult to get the correct timing due to the lack of rhythm, not to mention that slowdown, not that you have mapped that anyway.

Be extremely careful how you map this part here 02:00:893 - the instruments go out of sync (the percussion stays on time, but the melody which you seem to follow seems to change the tempo here, what you have currently mapped is actually way off so you probably shouldn't map this at all, up to you).

Also don't forget to adjust your new combo appropriately, as you have mapped this in 4/4 all your combos are ruined.

P.S. I didn't check if offset is correct as I'm on my laptop, but this sounded good enough for now (it's probably right).
Kite
osu! Alumni
1,372 posts
Joined July 2009
Topic Starter
Kite
mysterious timing signatures strike again
thanks for the help, really appreciate it!
gonna update it soon~
jonathanlfj
Elite Mapper
2,568 posts
Joined February 2010
jonathanlfj
http://puu.sh/ivGIx.zip

i just copied your hitsounds over hope you don't mind xD
Charles445
Elite Mapper II: Aspirant / osu! Paragon
2,881 posts
Joined March 2009
Charles445
Timing from 02:00:893 - to 02:02:768 - could use some work, if you plan on reviving this :)
_dog
171 posts
Joined August 2012
_dog
is it coming back

EDIT: :-) GD
pkk
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Joined November 2013
pkk
(ﾉ´ヮ´)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧ hi kite xd
Okoratu
Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator
4,913 posts
Joined May 2012
Okoratu
??
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Fairy ring.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 124563
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.5
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 106749,113397,117147,149959
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Fairy ring
TitleUnicode:Fairy ring
Artist:Cororo
ArtistUnicode:Cororo
Creator:Kite
Version:oko's Normal
Source:
Tags:
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:-1

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:3.5
OverallDifficulty:4
ApproachRate:6
SliderMultiplier:1.1
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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[Colours]
Combo1 : 191,255,255
Combo2 : 215,215,255
Combo3 : 255,166,210
Combo4 : 255,164,164

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Winnie
1,343 posts
Joined November 2013
Winnie
Get Gud and ask me later
Nozhomi
Global Moderator
4,568 posts
Joined May 2013
Nozhomi
If not bubbled next week call me XD
Hysteria
138 posts
Joined January 2013
Hysteria
Hello Kite, just a quick mod which you asked for.

General stuff
  1. There are some BPM inconsistencies between the difficulties
  2. Tags are missing
  3. Metadata needs to get fixed
GL
Saoji
825 posts
Joined February 2013
Saoji
Hello,

[Serenity]
  1. 01:28:628 (1,2) - Might help the readability if you remove NC on (1) and add it on (2) instead.
  2. 01:51:752 (1,2) - ^
  3. 02:04:018 (2,3) - I REALLY think you should add NCs to those. They play well and are really great but I find them really unexpected so the NCs would prevent the SV changement and also I think that some rainbow is pretty welcome in a song like this where you even called your diff "serenity" 8-)
That NC mod :S Well just said what I found confusing anything else is just fine.

[lfj's Insane]
  1. 02:36:360 (4) - Just a suggestion but I would ctrl+H this one 02:35:891 (2) - to create a better flow? Or add a curve?
[_dog's hard]
  1. 01:35:268 (5) - If it's not offscreen it does touch the HP bar, you should lower it a bit.
  2. 01:51:830 (5,6) - I find the spacing a bit confusing, this is a pretty small one compared to the slider just before 01:51:205 (4,5) -
  3. 02:30:892 (5) - Isn't it considered as hidden reverse ? If yes it's unrankable. Also I find the fact that that it does reverse twice -really- confusing, for any difficulty level. I don't think it follows the music that great neither honestly. I would rather let an empty tick, or add a single note stacked on 02:31:517 (1) - for example.
  4. 02:32:455 (5) - ^
  5. 02:34:016 (5) - ^
  6. 02:33:391 (2,4) - I'd avoid this sort of hidden notes on hard which makes it, well, pretty hard. Get those two and stack (2) at the end of 02:32:455 (5) - for example. Also keep in mind that even this technique is, to me a bit too hard on hard.
  7. 02:36:829 (8) - You could add NC to make the last finish more important.
[oko's normal]
  1. 00:51:520 (3) - You could really improve shape. It doesn't look really neat cause a bit inconsistant? Also I would Ctrl+J for better flow.
  2. 01:21:831 (3) - ^ (for the shape)
  3. 02:29:954 (1) - add a red anchor near the end in a way that with the last anchor the end of the slider is in the direction of the new one.
Irreversible
osu! Alumni
4,315 posts
Joined December 2011
Irreversible
Hey Kiteeeeeeee

General

  1. 02:14:955 - This green line is unnecessary I assume? It causes a weird kiai fountain which does not fit imo. Uh, could you go over the kiai times again? I feel like some of those are quite unneeded because the song does not really change ..
  2. 02:36:829 - Add a NC on all diffs here? LOL
Serenity

  1. 00:49:958 (1) - There is something I don't really like about this part, but it's probably just the instruments fucking up. I'd however suggest another rhythm though: http://puu.sh/kmLwt/5afc064f5e.jpg I've put it like this, because 00:50:270 - this beat is less strong than 00:50:426 - this one, so a red tick slider would fit just perfectly. It will also provide 00:50:270 (2,3) - the needed emphasis.
  2. 00:52:692 - 00:52:770 (3) - Silence the ends of those, because there is no actual beat on blue. (but they fit, so yeah)
  3. 01:19:331 (1,2,3) - I wasn't able to read them, can I suggest you adding a NC on all of them so the player notices that there must be a rhythm change?
  4. 01:28:628 (1,2) - These were not really confortable to play, because there is no real spike in the song in my opinion, and it's a bit difficult to sight read them.. I suggest http://puu.sh/kmLOZ/f44f8488f3.jpg or something like http://puu.sh/kmLQN/f7113b4999.jpg .. this applies to all these kind of patterns.
  5. 02:01:437 (2) - I'm not sure about the terms of unrankability here, but the slider could be mistaken with two circles. I'd change this, just to be save.
  6. 02:02:447 (1) - It is weird to me that this is NC'd, but it still follows the pattern of the two sliders before. I'd make it either another slidershape, go in another direction.. you get me I hope.
  7. 02:36:829 (4) - NC to emphasize the last note?
  8. 02:17:767 (2) - Increasing the spacing will cause it to be more intuitive.
Really enjoyable! I like it a lot.

lfj's Insane

  1. 00:35:584 (1,2) - I'm not sure whether this is a good idea, when you have the possibility to follow a clearer sound which actually is on 1/2. It's your choice however.
  2. 00:50:583 (3) - You should make this rhythm here more complex, because you decided to follow the "ticking" beat 00:49:958 (1,2) - here, but go back to the.. flute? instantly. It threw me slightly off.
  3. 01:19:331 (1,2,3) - Same problem as in Serinity, I'd either apply NC to all of those, or at least make them into another direction + give them a bit more spacing? I guess it will hurt you less than the people who combo break here xD But well, sometimes tricky is fun.
  4. 01:47:143 (1) - Increase the spacing slightly to emphasize the strong sound?
  5. 02:03:705 (1,1,1,1) - nice!
  6. 02:36:829 (1) - NC for last note?
Interesting rhythm choice as well as well accentuated patterns.

_dog's Hard

  1. 00:22:615 (5,1) - A possibility to increase the flow here would be this pattern: http://puu.sh/kmN9K/1779e1161a.jpg
  2. 00:26:522 - I'm pretty sure this rhythm is wrong and misleading, as the slider should start 00:26:834 - here. Let me suggest you this rhythm: http://puu.sh/kmNey/f71f8742a7.jpg It is a hard diff, so I also suggest to keep this place a bit simpler as it may cause confusion.
  3. 00:29:334 (6,7,8) - Is a bit too clustered for my taste, is it possible that you move 8 a bit up and adjust everything a bit? So there won't be an overlap which is more appropriate for hard.
  4. 00:30:272 (1) - I don't reaaally like this rhythm here, it feels a bit weird to listen to. If you want to keep the emphasis of the blue tick, simply use a triplet like structure: http://puu.sh/kmNoI/6a24d87752.jpg
  5. 00:49:021 (8,9,10,11) - The overlap might be okay, but like this it literally looks like you've run out of place. Please re-do this pattern, and try to keep it a bit more centered.
  6. 00:59:020 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I guess NCing is wrong here.
  7. 01:11:207 (5) - NC? Follows your logic I suppose.
  8. 01:31:049 (2,3) - Again wrong rhythm, listen to it at 25% and either catch it correctly or simplify it. I wouldn't experiment that much in a hard diff.
  9. 01:33:393 - Density is clearly missing here, so I would actually add a circle here, or why did you leave it out? I think aiming for tension here is not a good idea.
  10. 02:29:954 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Really cute patterning!
  11. 02:36:829 (8) - I wouldn't stack it because emphasis is clearly lost here. Also, add a NC?
This map is a bit of a rollercoaster, the begin was actually pretty decent, but the quality of the map falls off more and more. Missing blankets (I know not everyone intends to do one, but some of those in this map just look like they simply were not done properly), questionable overlaps (of which I don't think they are intentional) and spacing errors here and there. I would go over the map again and see if you can clean things up a bit, as it will be a clear benefit!

oko's Normal

  1. 00:25:272 (4) - Warum ist das so eine komische Welle D:
  2. 00:24:647 (3) - Ich denk das Blanket kriegst du besser hin, aber ... wenns nicht intentional war lass es einfach :^)
  3. 01:16:519 (1) - 01:32:143 (4) - Coole slider <3
Dezent!

Easy

Nichts zu sagen.

Viel Glück, Kite :3 Oh, ich glaub du kannst mich für einen Re-check fragen, wenn die map 12 SP hat hat sie ja schon :^) und Dog's Hard ein bisschen polished wurde.
Okoratu
Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator
4,913 posts
Joined May 2012
Okoratu
@Yales
did first one without even readin the mod xd
2nd one is intentional and i really like that shape, dunno some people keep telling me to avoid things like that because they're not symmetrical but i don't really get it, like that's your personal preference in wave shapes l ol
3rd suggestion doesn't really ring for me because the edges in the slider are designed to follow sth and just adding one towards the end for having it is meh
i did change something about this slider though because it annoyed me

@Irre
Dezent xd
das blanket is fixed mir kam das nich in den sinn das zu blanketen aus gruenden die ich nich mehr weiss
ich mag die komische welle D:

thanks~
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jonathanlfj
Elite Mapper
2,568 posts
Joined February 2010
jonathanlfj
fixed everything except 01:19:331 (1,2,3) - from irre's mod, i think the anti-jump is pretty easy to read given the strong musical cues

Thanks!
http://puu.sh/kn8NJ.zip
_dog
171 posts
Joined August 2012
_dog

Yales wrote:

[_dog's hard]
  1. 01:35:268 (5) - If it's not offscreen it does touch the HP bar, you should lower it a bit. I'll think about it.
  2. 01:51:830 (5,6) - I find the spacing a bit confusing, this is a pretty small one compared to the slider just before 01:51:205 (4,5) - That's the point. Please provide better reasoning.
  3. 02:30:892 (5) - Isn't it considered as hidden reverse ? If yes it's unrankable. Also I find the fact that that it does reverse twice -really- confusing, for any difficulty level. I don't think it follows the music that great neither honestly. I would rather let an empty tick, or add a single note stacked on 02:31:517 (1) - for example. No it's fine. Play the map. These are separated by a full 1/1 time. Did you play the map?
  4. 02:32:455 (5) - ^ Don't lengthen your mod with the same thing.
  5. 02:34:016 (5) - ^ Don't lengthen your mod with the same thing.
  6. 02:33:391 (2,4) - I'd avoid this sort of hidden notes on hard which makes it, well, pretty hard. Get those two and stack (2) at the end of 02:32:455 (5) - for example. Also keep in mind that even this technique is, to me a bit too hard on hard. Don't lengthen your mod with the same thing.
  7. 02:36:829 (8) - You could add NC to make the last finish more important. No.
Irre's mod seems reasonable. I'll have to get back on it when I have time. Luckily weekend starts in a bit.
Kite
osu! Alumni
1,372 posts
Joined July 2009
Topic Starter
Kite

Irreversible wrote:

Hey Kiteeeeeeee

General

  1. 02:14:955 - This green line is unnecessary I assume? It causes a weird kiai fountain which does not fit imo. Uh, could you go over the kiai times again? I feel like some of those are quite unneeded because the song does not really change ..
  2. 02:36:829 - Add a NC on all diffs here? LOL
Serenity

  1. 00:49:958 (1) - There is something I don't really like about this part, but it's probably just the instruments fucking up. I'd however suggest another rhythm though: http://puu.sh/kmLwt/5afc064f5e.jpg I've put it like this, because 00:50:270 - this beat is less strong than 00:50:426 - this one, so a red tick slider would fit just perfectly. It will also provide 00:50:270 (2,3) - the needed emphasis.
  2. 00:52:692 - 00:52:770 (3) - Silence the ends of those, because there is no actual beat on blue. (but they fit, so yeah)
  3. 01:19:331 (1,2,3) - I wasn't able to read them, can I suggest you adding a NC on all of them so the player notices that there must be a rhythm change?
  4. 01:28:628 (1,2) - These were not really confortable to play, because there is no real spike in the song in my opinion, and it's a bit difficult to sight read them.. I suggest http://puu.sh/kmLOZ/f44f8488f3.jpg or something like http://puu.sh/kmLQN/f7113b4999.jpg .. this applies to all these kind of patterns.
  5. 02:01:437 (2) - I'm not sure about the terms of unrankability here, but the slider could be mistaken with two circles. I'd change this, just to be save.
  6. 02:02:447 (1) - It is weird to me that this is NC'd, but it still follows the pattern of the two sliders before. I'd make it either another slidershape, go in another direction.. you get me I hope.
  7. 02:36:829 (4) - NC to emphasize the last note?
  8. 02:17:767 (2) - Increasing the spacing will cause it to be more intuitive.
The greenline is are needed for sv change, there are a let of metronome changes in this song so there are a lot of red sections.. I just forgot to apply kiai to them which caused random kiai fountains. Thanks for pointing that out!
Applied everything except:
00:49:958 (1) - The current pattern is easier to catch and play and I would like to keep it that way
01:28:628 (1,2) - I think the first suggestion you made is even harder to play since its spaced out 1/4s instead of a slight jump to a stacked 1/4 pattern, and the second suggestion looks too clustered to me.. I think it should be fine since the pattern flows directly to the next beat so it is quite easy to catch, I agree that it might be suprising on sightread but I am sure people will manage
02:01:437 (2) - There is only one approach circle so it's easy to tell it's a slider, I've had circles before but it felt odd so I used a slider instead. TBH this section is still sort of messed up might have to recheck BPM here
02:17:767 (2) - Spacing is sufficient enough to me

Thanks a lot for the mod Irre and Yales!
Meyrink
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Meyrink
hi =w=/

00:31:834 - here need a new red line with 6/4 metronome for the downbeats
01:14:644 - here too ! just CTRL+P will add a red line there

o/
jonathanlfj
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dude nice
Kite
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Kite
you should rename yourself
Monstrata
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Monstrata
[Serenity]

  1. 00:29:647 (6) - I think a 1/2 slider would fit better here. I can hear a note on the red tick 00:29:803 -
  2. 00:30:272 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - I'm not really getting all these jumps here. They feel forced because not all the notes are actually that strong or deserving of such large DS. I think the most acceptable places for a "jump" are 00:30:740 (2) - and 00:32:303 (2) - . You could probably lower the DS of the others by a bit to make these sliders feel more important because to me they are the strongest notes in their respective combo's.
  3. 00:34:178 (4,5) - Try Ctrl+G'ing the rhythm here. I feel like a slider beginning on 00:34:178 - makes more sense with the instruments in the back.
  4. 00:41:521 (3,4) - Rhythmically, the background instruments here follow a different pattern, and I feel like its a missed opportunity by mapping to 1/2 rhythm.
    Something like this maybe?
  5. 01:01:208 (1) - While this is okay. I think using a 1/2 slider and a circle would map the instruments a bit better. Having a circle on 01:01:520 - for the drum would be nice.
  6. 01:17:456 (7,8) - This jump is really big and I don't think 8 is strong enough to warrant such a large jump.
  7. 01:24:956 (4,1,2) - This doesn't flow too well for me because you've set up a nice clockwise flow leading up to 4>1 and suddenly you break that flow movement with 2.
    Maybe try something like this?
  8. 01:28:394 (4,5) - It's going to be really tough to read this as a 1/4 jump. Compare the spacing to 01:29:019 (2,3) -
  9. 01:30:581 (1,2) - This is actually better because the slider-leniency allows you not to play through the entire slider before jumping to the next circle. I would still curve the tail even a bit more right-ward to give a better visual cue for the jump.
  10. 01:52:064 (2) - This 1/4 is like barely audible for me xP.
  11. 01:55:736 (3,4) - Try Ctrl+G'ing this rhythm too. I find it more enjoyable to play with the slider starting on 01:55:893 -
  12. 02:01:981 - You have a few unsnapped green lines here. Mind snapping them? they're like 1-2ms off anyways.
  13. 02:03:705 (1) - Is this supposed to be 1/6?
  14. 02:09:018 (4,5) - I really think these jumps are too big xP They really diminish the emphasis from 5>1 which I feel deserves more impact.
  15. 02:23:548 (2,3) - You could try Ctrl+G"ing this rhythm to follow the main melody a bit better.
  16. 02:29:954 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - NIIIICE
[lfj's Insane]

  1. 00:36:990 (2,3,4) - How about having the borders aligned?
    And evenly spaced
  2. 00:53:004 - Is it possible to map this triplet? It's quite significant because it transitions the song from a calmer section to a more lively section.
  3. 01:24:644 (3,4,1) - I think 4>1 should have a larger jump than 3>4 for better emphasis.
  4. 02:14:955 (1) - Is this supposed to be 1/6 snapped? It sounds more like 3/4 but the window is very small, just double checking.
[_dog's Hard]

  1. 00:21:834 (4) - A lot of different sounds are being mapped by this 1/1 repeat slider. I think it's better to remove the repeat because the sounds after 00:22:147 - are very different from before.
  2. 00:29:334 (6) - Two 1/2 sliders would be better here imo... But i guess this works too.
  3. 00:30:272 (1,2) - Is this spacing intentional? It looks a lotk like a 1/2 spacing even though its actually 1/4. Spacing like 00:32:772 (6,7) - looks better.
  4. 00:42:614 (7,8,9) - This is nice actually. I just wish you didn't stack them under the slider-end of 6 because some movement from the slider to the stacks would be more interesting imo. Also it could create a nice jup from 9>1 depending on how you position the stack.
  5. 00:49:021 (8,9,10,11) - This stack isn't good though because if you enable View > Stacking you'll notice they aren't stacked in the same way as you intend them to look.
    ~
  6. 01:29:331 (7) - Idk about this rhythm tbh... It feels empty because of the 1/1 slider followed by a 1/1 gap.
    How about a 3/4 slider and then a 1/2 slider?
  7. 01:35:268 (5) - I don't really care about objects touching the hp-bar but this one covers quite a lot of it. It's fine if you want to keep, but see if theres a way you can cover less of the bar if possible.
  8. 02:07:143 (1) - Seems like an unnecessary NC. Since you don't NC on 02:14:018 (8) - and other places.
  9. 02:30:892 (5) - I really don't recommend using 2x repeat sliders :P There are better and less difficult to read rhythms out there. Two 1/2 sliders instead maybe? This applies to all other cases where this happens too. Also the arrows are completely covered by the slider before them for a portion of the time that they can be visible (due to the AR). Arrows need to be visible and I feel like this could potentially be unrankable. It's best to avoid it.
    ~
[oko's Normal]

Nice, nothing to mention. I checked offscreen/unrankable stuff mainly.
[Easy]

  1. 00:19:022 (1,2) - Spacing should be 1.60x no?
  2. 02:00:893 (1,1) - The recommended recovery time between spinner and object is ~1500ms for Easy which is basically 4 white ticks on 160 bpm. I think there isn't enough recovery time here considering the bpm and the fact that you only have 3 white ticks of break. It doesn't help that the object is so far from the screen's center xPP.
you can call me back when you're ready :).
Saoji
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Saoji

_dog wrote:

Don't lengthen your mod with the same thing
Unbelievable. It wasn't to "lengthen" my mod but more to make you gain time in case you wanted to change it.
You're welcome btw.

Anyway; still waiting for that rank Kite :P
Kite
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Kite
Yeah waiting for others to apply mods, and I still have to work around some of the suggestions monstrata provided ><
Kite
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I fixed stuff
Irreversible
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Did some further polishing, good to go!
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