Shawn Wasabi - Marble Soda [Osu|OsuMania] · forum

Exa

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

Exa 2016-01-05T22:10:07+00:00

lkgddr wrote:
Rohit6 wrote:
See I'm not trying to attack you or something but its really hard to say the truth without looking like an asshole
Anyways you're using your DnB style where it truly doesnt fit ,also dont take this as a personal attack please
Can you please try and be more defensive in your post?

Please refrain from involving yourself in irrelevant matters and stop going around looking to start up drama.

fartownik

2,189 posts

Joined December 2008

fartownik 2016-01-09T06:45:24+00:00

rank this map guyz

guppy

10 posts

Joined November 2013

guppy 2016-01-11T00:46:01+00:00

I really enjoy this map, but there's one thing that feels out of place:

Powerpuff Grills
at 00:30:282
and 00:31:353

With these, uhh.. superstacks (i'm not sure what to call them)?

Given that these are the only place they appear in the song, and it's in a place in the song where i dont necessarily hear the drums ramping up that much anyways, they feel very out of place. Regular triples would be fine.

Other than that the map feels really, really good. Changing those awkward stacks will only improve it!

Arphimigon

1,650 posts

Joined December 2014

Arphimigon 2016-01-12T00:47:07+00:00

Still too late for GDs? :^)
(if its not too late I might talk to Rohit about collabing smth)

Exa

445 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

Exa 2016-01-12T11:53:46+00:00

Arphimigon wrote:
Still too late for GDs? :^)
(if its not too late I might talk to Rohit about collabing smth)

I really don't know, some people I talked to are supposed to check this set sooner or later...

fartownik

2,189 posts

Joined December 2008

fartownik 2016-01-13T19:39:11+00:00

Exa wrote:
Arphimigon wrote:
Still too late for GDs? :^)
(if its not too late I might talk to Rohit about collabing smth)
I really don't know, some people I talked to are supposed to check this set sooner or later...

The 'people' are checking this map for close to half a year now.

Arphimigon

1,650 posts

Joined December 2014

Arphimigon 2016-01-13T20:28:47+00:00

fartownik wrote:
The 'people' are checking this map for close to half a year now.

Good point, what did happen to this set?

fartownik

2,189 posts

Joined December 2008

fartownik 2016-01-13T22:49:01+00:00

Arphimigon wrote:
fartownik wrote:
The 'people' are checking this map for close to half a year now.
Good point, what did happen to this set?

I think the map is on a blacklist of some sort, 'cant touch this' or some shit. Multiple BNs either refuse to look at it or postpone the check all the time.

Seriously, this map has over 9000 mods, +73 star priority, 434 favourites. It's time for a BN check.

Arphimigon

1,650 posts

Joined December 2014

Arphimigon 2016-01-13T23:48:33+00:00

tbh I really should mod the mapset since the last mod was just Insane difficulty.
Exa do the mod for me thnx

Exa

445 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

Exa 2016-01-14T11:40:35+00:00

Arphimigon wrote:
tbh I really should mod the mapset since the last mod was just Insane difficulty.
Exa do the mod for me thnx

If I look though my map again I might end up remapping it although I find it to be perfectly fine at it's current state

Nozhomi

Global Moderator

4,568 posts

Joined May 2013

Nozhomi 2016-01-20T13:19:11+00:00

Rohit6 wrote:
[Noz's Extra]
I'll start of by saying the NC's really make the map annoying to play because theyre not regular or uniform atleast in my eyes , also there are places which do not need NC's at all like (00:01:889 (1) - ,00:03:317 (1) - ,00:09:032 (1) - ,00:10:639 (1) - should do this one on the white one if you really want to,there's lots of them later ill give you the whole thing only if you plan to change them) - Did something.
00:01:532 (3,4,1,2) - Its gay if it touches ,and right now its slightly gay - Not a valid reason, and you don't even looked why they was like that.
00:04:746 (1,2) - Would be better if you silenced theses sliderends as well because theres nothing on the blue ticks - Fix
00:23:675 (1) - Would be really s1ck if you put it in the bottom left corner because it gives a good snap , so better emphasis for the last beat before the break - Only stack with (3) because would be a stupid ass jump and I don't like it.
00:34:657 (3) - Should be snapped to 1/3 , its 1/12th of a section later - It goes off again qeifhps<doufhspqdioufh< sdopfuh.
00:35:639 (3) - This is some weird emphasis , the strong snare isnt being clicked at all, should really make the snare clickable - it works like that, because of the follwing tic 00:36:175 (4) - .
00:35:103 - I really dont know why almost none of the snares are emphasized in this section , if you can make the strong sound clickable please do it,it feels really awkward to click the weak beats and just hear the strong ones on sliderends and its not okay even if you do it 'consistently' because it makes for a bad playing experience , really hoping this gets changed - Rip hopes.
00:44:925 (5) - Remove finish from sliderend because theres nothing on the sliderend - Fix
00:46:710 (2,3) - Possible triple? - Why ? Sounds stupid.
00:46:175 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - There's no real reason to put triangles here because there's no 1-2-3-1-2-3 to support it, the only thing that is going on in the music is 1-2-1-2-1-2 here - 00:46:532 (1,2,3) - and strong beat so 00:47:067 (4,5,6) - .
00:50:103 (4,6) - Would be better if slidershapes were same because the same vocals are repeated - KK :/
00:52:246 (1,2,3) - Would be a lot better if you used a whole lot of this in the earlier section
00:54:210 (3,4,5,6,7) - 3 should not be a part of the pattern because it isnt supported by the music,like it goes from a 0-100 real fast and all you do is spin in a triangle for 4,5,6,7 closely spaced antijumps would fit really well or you could try a square but it wouldnt give the same sort of pressure - 3 stacked with slider so it's not part of triangle anymore.
01:09:389 - Silence sliderends please,theres nothing on the sliderends so theres no reason to keep them audible (By silence I mean lower the volume) - So why you said nothing for Fartow diff then ? I'm at 40% and him at 60% but mine are bad yeah ofc :> . #NotLikeThis
Rest all I see are recurring issues like beatpatterning and bad emphasis overall ,also its too simple in terms of gameplay in regards to the song like as a player when youre listening to this song you expecting all kinds of 1/4 ,1/8s and stuff but all you see are equally spaced jumps which put you off the diff because it doesnt represent the song well, all I can say is gl in ranking this

the worst diff of the universe

osu file format v14

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Exa

445 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

Exa 2016-01-20T20:56:32+00:00

I needed a reason to update cause it was bout to get graved.

Updated!

Nozhomi

Global Moderator

4,568 posts

Joined May 2013

Nozhomi 2016-01-21T18:56:20+00:00

fartownik wrote:
It's time for a BN check.

Shoga

232 posts

Joined January 2015

Shoga 2016-01-24T19:57:16+00:00

DOn't grave this.
Here something for u to update mean while w8ing for BN

Mods

Insane

00:47:782 (8) - NC
00:53:496 (8) - ^
01:03:139 (8) - ^
01:33:496 (8) - ^
01:39:210 (8) - ^
NC here 02:35:996 (7) or 02:36:175 (8)
01:42:604 (3) - ctrl+g this to improve the flow

No more Salt plz, BN.

Exa

445 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

Exa 2016-01-24T20:36:28+00:00

[-Shoga-] wrote:
DOn't grave this.
Here something for u to update mean while w8ing for BN

Mods
Insane
00:47:782 (8) - NC
00:53:496 (8) - ^
01:03:139 (8) - ^
01:33:496 (8) - ^
01:39:210 (8) - ^
NC here 02:35:996 (7) or 02:36:175 (8)
01:42:604 (3) - ctrl+g this to improve the flow

Changed them all!

No more Salt plz, BN. Not gonna give up anytime soon o/

dylansantosh

313 posts

Joined February 2015

dylansantosh 2016-01-28T18:33:52+00:00

ok so this seriously needs to get ranked now

Arphimigon

1,650 posts

Joined December 2014

Arphimigon 2016-01-28T18:55:36+00:00

DylanSan wrote:
ranked

dylansantosh

313 posts

Joined February 2015

dylansantosh 2016-01-28T19:41:35+00:00

Arphimigon wrote:
DylanSan wrote:
ranked

is this thread like your homepage or something

Arphimigon

1,650 posts

Joined December 2014

Arphimigon 2016-01-28T19:57:32+00:00

i subbed
not weird at all dw

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,913 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2016-01-30T19:00:39+00:00

ok so
in the half year span of me not doing anything here all that happens is Exa remapping a few times people being mad at him for doing so and farto making his diff more edgy?

[general]
farto's hitsounding is like 3000% better than the one Exa and nozhomi are using, right now it feels like these diffs aren't even hitsounded at all and that's actually terrible

[farto]
a lower AR than 9.5 works better for me.
according to p/4299532 the diffname is completely unrelated, you may use an appropriate diffname but i'm sure af not going to bubble a spasm of imagination as a diffname
00:30:341 (2,3,1) - 00:31:413 (2,3,1) - you and exa should agree on how to snap those, i think these are 1/8 and should be simplified, the ranked one does 1/8 for these.

just a few questions
00:12:782 (4) - 00:18:496 (4,5) - so once you do 1/8 repeat and the other time u do 1/4?
00:36:889 (1) - 00:42:603 (1) - and similar: i don't get why these deserve one of the 1/8 sliders
00:54:389 (1,2,3,4) - 01:08:317 (1,2,3,4,1) - two 1/4 sliders might allow you to capture the more major tones better since 1, 3 have very clear focus but currently close to none way of emphasis

01:02:960 (3,1,2) - seem overdone, like really compared to anything in that section it's just ultra big for the sake of throwing ppl out of the window or something
01:03:764 (1) - combo seems like a rather pointless way to manipulate hp drain
01:16:115 (2) - i think this is an 1/8 triplet since there's 3 sounds from blue tick to the other one, and the extended hold for 01:15:817 (1) - plays like ass tbh would also follow vocals as well
01:20:907 (2,3) - considering how you mapped 00:35:103 - that seems rather unnecessary but the whole part is focused around that so owell
01:33:675 (4,5) - autostacking destroys your straight line with this triplet
01:40:103 (1,2,3,4,5) - same as the previous one, but additionally: why are these normal sampleset that sounds like you have a bassline going on, which in fact isnt
02:01:710 (3,3) - oh look you figured out that these are 1/8 ...?
02:28:317 (1) - i mean yeah the sounds are there but this seems like you just have this in order to have a hold slider

02:29:389 - this part has more straight line snapping than i as a mouse player could tolerate but uh last time i said that you remapped the part to this..?
00:40:817 (1,2,1,2,3) - are counter-intuitive and g against most other concepts in the diff

ehh i actually liked most parts more 6 months ago or my memory is fucking with me, the only part that i like more than before is probably the kiai

[noz]
00:05:103 (1,2) - seem kinda unnecessary, tbh would just stick to the drums and do http://puu.sh/mPxf4/a6a17c9042.jpg
00:08:407 (2,4) - seem like unnecessary overmap to me, they add nothing to the main melody imo

00:19:210 (5,1) - looks like ass how about making the triangle bigger so that it can stack like http://puu.sh/mPxpJ/76cbdd7802.jpg
00:19:925 (2) - the stronger sound is in the white tick here like 00:14:210 (2,3) -
00:29:925 (3,1) - 00:30:639 (3,1) - angle could be smoother, currently it feels pretty rough
00:34:389 (1,2,3) - this is cancer, like literally man please just do a repeat slider like 00:51:889 (5) - also applies to the other 1/3 you have like this
00:46:532 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:35:103 (1,2,3) - consistency just went out of the window or
00:56:175 (5,6) - should be bigger spacing than 00:55:639 (2,3,4) - or 00:55:639 (2,3,4) - smaller respectively

00:59:032 (4,5) - 00:57:960 (1,2) - distance?
01:03:139 (8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ok that plays like ass, if you just replace the 1/4 sliders with circles in your mind while looking at this pattern you will quickly see why it plays like ass, it's basically a big horizontal jump pattern where 01:03:317 (9,10) - is gigantic and then transitioning roughly into a stream which plays like shiittt
01:57:960 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - comboing is nonsense
02:25:817 (3) - why do you skip these soudns ???? you mapped 02:27:603 (1,2,3) - out :\
02:33:317 (9,10,1,2,3) - readability of that pattern is ass
would icon this diff after a few more changes i guess

[exa I]
00:12:246 (1,2,1) - equal spacing pls
00:17:960 (1,2,1) - polarity suffers under these, just doing circles would fit better imho
00:29:746 (2) - is essentially ignoring the song by putting that soudn on a sliderend
00:42:425 (6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - visual spacing is very very very misleading for thse, either up 00:42:425 (6,7) - or considerably nerf the rest
00:44:746 (8,1) - this feels really really lacking
00:58:496 (1,2,3) - these make no sense with the cconcept of that part at all
01:17:514 (5) - pls don't layer vocals and instruments together 01:17:157 (3,7) - are instruments and 01:17:514 (5) - doesn't have that so you should delete that
01:22:425 (8,9,1) - misleading like the other pattern
02:02:782 (3,4) - 02:01:710 (3,4) - this is a dumb thing to do, you ignored the 1/8 rolls up until now and now force 1/8 gap clicks 02:06:175 (1,2) - is more predictable since it's sliders
02:22:603 (2) - i don't get why this is extended at all
i actually think this needs more work

[exa h]
would bubble this diff

[exa n]
01:05:996 (5,1) - what the hell is htis spacing
00:36:175 (3) - 3/2 gap can be easily avoided like 00:42:782 (4,5) - with a doublet
00:53:317 (3) - eww
01:20:460 (1,1) - not a fan of having 2 different kinds of stacks in a normal, consider unstacking
01:28:496 - circle? ~~so that~~ ok screw this i'd just suggest http://puu.sh/mPA5G/06a38f3f60.jpg
01:43:317 (1) - nc seems pointless
02:35:460 (2,3) - if you map this part to drums be consequent pleaseEE
02:37:960 (1,1,1) - add nothing in terms of readability or anything, i think they're fine for hard because these are stacked unusually but here it's just meh
ehh acceptable after some rhythms get less dumb

[exa]
comboing stuff applies here too
01:15:103 (1) - long spinners can be pretty tiring, and this one looks pretty lazy are you sure it's necessary
01:57:960 (1,2,3) - is more dense than normal lol
ok

Kelpo Flakey

448 posts

Joined May 2014

Kelpo Flakey 2016-01-31T00:30:48+00:00

oMg last time i saw this was when i playtested it but now after forever its like <33333 *invisible star shoot because i have no kudosu*

fartownik

2,189 posts

Joined December 2008

fartownik 2016-01-31T01:17:59+00:00

Okoratu wrote:
[farto]
a lower AR than 9.5 works better for me. - 9.3'd
according to p/4299532 the diffname is completely unrelated, you may use an appropriate diffname but i'm sure af not going to bubble a spasm of imagination as a diffname - Plz bubble mah diffname, the song is all fluffy and the powerpuff girlz make the sound of 'pipipipi' like in the songz so I put Powerpuff Grills as a diffname. Also Grills is such a funny meme.

I'm actually serious, the song made me feel like some samples from a children's show like Powerpuff Girls were used in production. Pls no bannerino.
00:30:341 (2,3,1) - 00:31:413 (2,3,1) - you and exa should agree on how to snap those, i think these are 1/8 and should be simplified, the ranked one does 1/8 for these.- Snapd.

just a few questions
00:12:782 (4) - 00:18:496 (4,5) - so once you do 1/8 repeat and the other time u do 1/4? - Because one is 1/8 and the other is 1/4 in the music? xD
00:36:889 (1) - 00:42:603 (1) - and similar: i don't get why these deserve one of the 1/8 sliders - Because the sound ends where the 1/8 slider ends. Pretty straighforward, can't emphasize the music better than this. I've also used those previously so it's fine for the player to read.
00:54:389 (1,2,3,4) - 01:08:317 (1,2,3,4,1) - two 1/4 sliders might allow you to capture the more major tones better since 1, 3 have very clear focus but currently close to none way of emphasis - Sorry, but I really like the flow here, both cases. I think the emphasis is fair enough.
01:02:960 (3,1,2) - seem overdone, like really compared to anything in that section it's just ultra big for the sake of throwing ppl out of the window or something - Mind explaining further? I find it pretty easy to be honest, never had problems with this pattern. The jump is straightforward and the following sliders follow a symmetrical path.
01:03:764 (1) - combo seems like a rather pointless way to manipulate hp drain - It's actually not, but no big deal. Deleted NC from the next slider.
01:16:115 (2) - i think this is an 1/8 triplet since there's 3 sounds from blue tick to the other one,
and the extended hold for 01:15:817 (1) - plays like ass tbh would also follow vocals as well - Found an alternative solution that fits a 1/8 beat here. I didn't really like a 1/4 here, not strong enough.
01:20:907 (2,3) - considering how you mapped 00:35:103 - that seems rather unnecessary but the whole part is focused around that so owell - I think it's fine too
01:33:675 (4,5) - autostacking destroys your straight line with this triplet - I don't think I understand the problem.
01:40:103 (1,2,3,4,5) - same as the previous one, but additionally: why are these normal sampleset that sounds like you have a bassline going on, which in fact isnt - The pattern is fine, as said before. And why does it have a normal sampleset? I have no idea! Not sure how I haven't noticed that. Fixed.
02:01:710 (3,3) - oh look you figured out that these are 1/8 ...? I guess I must've thought this is a different rhythm. Fixed the previous pattern accordingly. (it plays fine, I checked)
02:28:317 (1) - i mean yeah the sounds are there but this seems like you just have this in order to have a hold slider - I think it's fiiiineeee
02:29:389 - this part has more straight line snapping than i as a mouse player could tolerate but uh last time i said that you remapped the part to this..? This part was never remapped iirc.
00:40:817 (1,2,1,2,3) - are counter-intuitive and g against most other concepts in the diff - Indeed they are. Fixed.

ehh i actually liked most parts more 6 months ago or my memory is fucking with me, the only part that i like more than before is probably the kiai - Not that much have changed. Only a few parts + the chorus (and it was for the better, trust me).

http://pastebin.com/YjvStmz1

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

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Okoratu 2016-01-31T01:37:17+00:00

26. Car - Lock sound
47. Facebook - Notification sound
61. iPhone - Note tone
62. iPhone - Tritone ringtone
113. R2D2

can't find anything anime related in that list so far

01:02:960 (3,1,2) - seem overdone, like really compared to anything in that section it's just ultra big for the sake of throwing ppl out of the window or something - Mind explaining further? I find it pretty easy to be honest, never had problems with this pattern. The jump is straightforward and the following sliders follow a symmetrical path.
the sudden downwards to the left movement is less intuitive than you might: 01:01:889 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - the way these are constructed you'd expect a jump to the bottom right instead of left and the distance left by your symmetric patterning between 01:03:139 (1,2) - seems a bit too much compared to the rest of the patterns in that section

for first one: i'm literally deaf

01:33:675 (4,5) - autostacking destroys your straight line with this triplet - I don't think I understand the problem.
http://puu.sh/mQ0uW/b2bbbfc461.jpg
http://puu.sh/mQ0vZ/314df807a2.jpg *what it probably should look like*

Exa

445 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

Exa 2016-01-31T12:00:23+00:00

Okoratu wrote:
[general]
farto's hitsounding is like 3000% better than the one Exa and nozhomi are using, right now it feels like these diffs aren't even hitsounded at all and that's actually terrible Switched from custom hitsounds to normal ones. Kept blank sliderslide files tho.

[exa I]
00:12:246 (1,2,1) - equal spacing pls Not the same sounds and the spacing only differs for about 0.3 DS. Is this really an issue? Furthermore (2,1) are symmetrical to 00:11:889 (5,6,7,8,1) so it makes it even easier to read!
00:17:960 (1,2,1) - polarity suffers under these, just doing circles would fit better imho They are treated exactly like circles and the player even taps on white ticks. I don't see what's wrong with it. Mind explaining a bit further?
00:29:746 (2) - is essentially ignoring the song by putting that soudn on a sliderend Is the exact same with 00:30:817 (6) I am not mapping to the drums here. Instead I am mapping to the sounds that are based upon these. They are really notable if you listen to the sounds within 00:29:389 (1,2) or 00:30:460 (5,6). Future bass does that in many cases so to avoid forever changing rhythms and misrepresentations of the same sounds, I decided to not map to the drums but simply include them. - If you have a better suggestion for a rhythm that follows the sounds I am currently mapping but also not ignore the drums, please let me know >.<
00:42:425 (6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - visual spacing is very very very misleading for thse, either up 00:42:425 (6,7) - or considerably nerf the rest Ctrl+G'd (7) to up it a bit more.
00:44:746 (8,1) - this feels really really lacking It should. I am trying to relieve tension with this part so I am using far a simpler rhythm like 00:44:746 (8,1,2,1). Additionally if you listen at smaller rates, you'll notice that the sound represented with this slider dramatically changes on the reverse point, so yea.
00:58:496 (1,2,3) - these make no sense with the cconcept of that part at all I am really unsure about changing these. Although I agree that they don't contain the bass simples that other sliders do, they are essentially the same. I would really like to keep them since they also play pretty nicely and do not go brutally against the general structure of this part.
01:17:514 (5) - pls don't layer vocals and instruments together 01:17:157 (3,7) - are instruments and 01:17:514 (5) - doesn't have that so you should delete that True, begone little note!
01:22:425 (8,9,1) - misleading like the other pattern Up'd it a bit although I think everyone who has reached the skill required to play this map will treat this as a note. (The slider is more like "guiding" them towards where I want it to)
02:02:782 (3,4) - 02:01:710 (3,4) - this is a dumb thing to do, you ignored the 1/8 rolls up until now and now force 1/8 gap clicks 02:06:175 (1,2) - is more predictable since it's sliders There are no other 1/8 sound instances in this part and these one are really prominent. - It seems like I did something very stupid but I am not sure if I completely understand what >>..<< Care to explain a bit more?
02:22:603 (2) - i don't get why this is extended at all There is no prominent enough beat on the red tick and also the actual sound climaxes and ends on the blue I really don't see why this shouldn't be extended o.o
i actually think this needs more work Aww, let me know if something that I didn't change should really be changed. I made sure to explain my reasoning behind things as well as possible >.<

[exa h]
would bubble this diff \:D/

[exa n]
01:05:996 (5,1) - what the hell is htis spacing Ups did not intend for (5) to be a reverse slider. I am skipping the bass on purpose just like 01:03:139 since I think it will become too hard if I use another hitobject for it, no?
00:36:175 (3) - 3/2 gap can be easily avoided like 00:42:782 (4,5) - with a doublet Firstly I've used doublets to represent completely different sounds so I would (in some stupid way) break consistency. But that's not the reason why I do not wish to change that. The slider contains 3 types of sounds as it seems to me 'Bass 'tttt 'Bass, I would really like to emphasise the "Umpf" that the vocals make with a hold and also the ttt that's after that with a hold. Due to the difficulty restriction I can't do that and the best way to go about it is using a long sliders that serves my purpose without making it too hard. Hope I am getting my point across >.<
00:53:317 (3) - eww Ugly af, changed!
01:20:460 (1,1) - not a fan of having 2 different kinds of stacks in a normal, consider unstacking Is this better?
01:28:496 - circle? ~~so that~~ ok screw this i'd just suggest http://puu.sh/mPA5G/06a38f3f60.jpg Cool one but I am trying to focus all the tension in the sound that (1) contains. Don't want to make this any more complicated since (here and in every other difficulty) I am trying to relieve tension by using simpler rhythm.
01:43:317 (1) - nc seems pointless And it is!
02:35:460 (2,3) - if you map this part to drums be consequent pleaseEE Not mapping to the drums since future bass is way too weird! Instead I am actually representing the 1/4 *tick* sounds with sliders!
02:37:960 (1,1,1) - add nothing in terms of readability or anything, i think they're fine for hard because these are stacked unusually but here it's just meh - Not sure what you want me to do here o.o
ehh acceptable after some rhythms get less dumb - Please let me know if something that I didn't change should really be changed!

[exa]
comboing stuff applies here too Fixed 'em!
01:15:103 (1) - long spinners can be pretty tiring, and this one looks pretty lazy are you sure it's necessary It's even a bit smaller than other slider's that I've used so it works well with the general difficulty. Also yeah, it would be pretty weird to map the vocals and drums with 1/1 and 2/1 sliders even though the vocals are constantly changing and within 1/2 time gaps. Using a slider for the build-up (even if it is a big one seems like the best way to go).
01:57:960 (1,2,3) - is more dense than normal lol Changed it just like normal!
ok Again, let me know if I should really change something that I didn't, everything is up for discussion!

In general I am really not basic the structure on my map solely on the beats provided by the song since most of the time there are sounds much more worth representing instead of sacrificing them for the sake of mapping some certain beats. I make sure to not skip them though by including them in sliderends or reverse points, but in most cases I use impactful enough objects on them so they are not left misrepresented!

Y talked IRC and changed some stuff that I denied.

Len

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Joined June 2012

Len 2016-01-31T16:50:26+00:00

nice

fartownik

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Joined December 2008

fartownik 2016-02-01T03:00:00+00:00

Okoratu wrote:
26. Car - Lock sound
47. Facebook - Notification sound
61. iPhone - Note tone
62. iPhone - Tritone ringtone
113. R2D2

can't find anything anime related in that list so far

Okay, big guns. https://osu.ppy.sh/s/368985 https://osu.ppy.sh/s/320118 what's Lemur related to in those songs? If I do "fartownik's Powerpuff Grills" will that be fine? Or perhaps "Powerpuff Lemur"?

01:02:960 (3,1,2) - seem overdone, like really compared to anything in that section it's just ultra big for the sake of throwing ppl out of the window or something - Mind explaining further? I find it pretty easy to be honest, never had problems with this pattern. The jump is straightforward and the following sliders follow a symmetrical path.
the sudden downwards to the left movement is less intuitive than you might: 01:01:889 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - the way these are constructed you'd expect a jump to the bottom right instead of left and the distance left by your symmetric patterning between 01:03:139 (1,2) - seems a bit too much compared to the rest of the patterns in that section

fixed

for first one: i'm literally deaf

01:33:675 (4,5) - autostacking destroys your straight line with this triplet - I don't think I understand the problem.
http://puu.sh/mQ0uW/b2bbbfc461.jpg
http://puu.sh/mQ0vZ/314df807a2.jpg *what it probably should look like*
I still don't see how this would be a problem in reading the map really, even if it's "destroyed"..

http://pastebin.com/HTAhWwrn

Okoratu

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Okoratu 2016-02-01T10:22:17+00:00

Loctav would shoot these down if they hadn't already passed to ranked

/

Exa

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Topic Starter

Exa 2016-02-01T11:26:57+00:00

Updated mine and farto's waiting for noz now uwu.

Also as for Powerpuff Grills:
1) The song itself is a big meme as the person who made it.
2) The diff name is supposed to represent the difficulty level of the map. I find this name to both represent the difficulty of the map and also be really cute, as the song already is.
3)And yeah, many times in the past were diff names used that did not have any immediate connection to the song nor it's difficulty. I am not talking specifically about Lemur but going though random 5+ min maps is enough to confirm my point. (And loctav nor anyone else took down Lemur's diff in the long run).

That's what I think. If it really proposes rankability issues, farto should totally change it to something more standard.

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2016-02-01T15:44:51+00:00

Okoratu wrote:
ok so
in the half year span of me not doing anything here all that happens is Exa remapping a few times people being mad at him for doing so and farto making his diff more edgy? - A long time ago, oko gives a modding ring to Exa, but he disapear just after. Many years passed, when oko, who became a legend among people, came back to finally bring his jugdment !

[noz]
00:05:103 (1,2) - seem kinda unnecessary, tbh would just stick to the drums and do http://puu.sh/mPxf4/a6a17c9042.jpg - Done, redo the pattern in purpose.
00:08:407 (2,4) - seem like unnecessary overmap to me, they add nothing to the main melody imo - I agree.
00:19:210 (5,1) - looks like ass how about making the triangle bigger so that it can stack like http://puu.sh/mPxpJ/76cbdd7802.jpg - Fix
00:19:925 (2) - the stronger sound is in the white tick here like 00:14:210 (2,3) - - Fix
00:29:925 (3,1) - 00:30:639 (3,1) - angle could be smoother, currently it feels pretty rough - Did rounded sliders and adjust shape so it works better.
00:34:389 (1,2,3) - this is cancer, like literally man please just do a repeat slider like 00:51:889 (5) - also applies to the other 1/3 you have like this - Was so good imo but...ok ;w; fixed all 1/3.
00:46:532 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:35:103 (1,2,3) - consistency just went out of the window or - Rhythm is same, so not really? I just changed 00:47:603 (6) - to have same antijump than other one.
00:56:175 (5,6) - should be bigger spacing than 00:55:639 (2,3,4) - or 00:55:639 (2,3,4) - smaller respectively - Fixed and changed pattern.
00:59:032 (4,5) - 00:57:960 (1,2) - distance? - No because I don't focus on the same element of music here, so I prefer keep consistency with pattern who follow it 00:58:496 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - .
01:03:139 (8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ok that plays like ass, if you just replace the 1/4 sliders with circles in your mind while looking at this pattern you will quickly see why it plays like ass, it's basically a big horizontal jump pattern where 01:03:317 (9,10) - is gigantic and then transitioning roughly into a stream which plays like shiittt - Redo 01:03:496 (10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - this whole pattern.
01:57:960 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - comboing is nonsense - Wow pro comboing orz fixed for more sense.
02:25:817 (3) - why do you skip these soudns ???? you mapped 02:27:603 (1,2,3) - out :\ - Tried a cool pattern to map them.
02:33:317 (9,10,1,2,3) - readability of that pattern is ass - 02:33:317 - added NC here for readability and because did same for 00:04:746 - .

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Exa wrote:
1) The song itself is a big meme as the person who made it.

A Meme is not a valid reason imo

Exa wrote:
2) The diff name is supposed to represent the difficulty level of the map. I find this name to both represent the difficulty of the map and also be really cute, as the song already is.

#NotLikeThis

Exa wrote:
3)And yeah, many times in the past were diff names used that did not have any immediate connection to the song nor it's difficulty. I am not talking specifically about Lemur but going though random 5+ min maps is enough to confirm my point. (And loctav nor anyone else took down Lemur's diff in the long run).

Tbh I think this kind of map / diff is stupid (like Reol - No Title bgs).
Only my thoughts ofc~

Exa

445 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

Exa 2016-02-01T20:57:40+00:00

Updated!

And yea ik my reasons are not exactly valid, I am just trying to find middle ground if there is any.

fartownik

2,189 posts

Joined December 2008

fartownik 2016-02-02T18:43:40+00:00

Okay, my reasons for the diffname are as follows:

1. Initially, when setting the diffname I wanted something 'as cute as possible', and the first thing that popped in my mind was that Powerpuff Girls show, thus it ended up being there with a little grammar twist to make it more unique. My thought was that this song has so much stuff mixed in that the only thing that it's missing is fucking Powerpuff Girls.
2. This name has been there along with the mapset almost from the beginning when it only had a few favourites. Now the favourites meter reached more than 460, A LOT, real lot of people associate this map strongly with this diffname. Changing it now would be inappropriate and counter-productive and can cause some unnecessary ruckus, it's not worth it. The diffname is an important part of this map, at least to me.

Zectro

371 posts

Joined April 2013

Zectro 2016-02-03T15:53:16+00:00

hi rechecked insane diff

15:33 Exa: Hello o/
15:34 Zectro: hii
15:35 Exa: Hi hi! um
15:35 Exa: Do you have time for a mod?
15:35 Exa: 2 diffs only :3
15:35 Zectro: Depends on when it should be done xD
15:35 Exa: Well not in a week o.o
15:35 Exa: But you don't need to do it today too tho XD
15:36 Zectro: what map? :D
15:36 *Exa is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/700320 Shawn Wasabi - Marble Soda]
15:36 Zectro: So you want me to recheck it? and only 2 diffs?
15:37 Exa: yeah if possible
15:37 Exa: wait
15:37 Exa: you've modded this before?
15:37 Zectro: yeah xD
15:37 Zectro: although I skipped 1 diff then
15:37 Exa: Damn I've lost track
15:37 Exa: Ayy when did you mod it
15:37 Zectro: I skipped noz's extra in my mod
15:37 Exa: I mean how long ago
15:37 Zectro: uhhh let me see on the thread lol
15:37 Exa: y ofc
15:38 Zectro: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/4752586
15:40 Exa: Oh hm you've modded it after the reamap
15:40 Exa: nvm then XD
15:40 Zectro: ;w;
15:40 Exa: y I am just asking for some final mods here and there
15:40 Exa: If you really want to recheck you can do it XD
15:41 Zectro: powerpuff diff?
15:41 Exa: nah, normal and insane
15:41 Exa: these 2 seem to be the issue rn
15:41 Zectro: ah
15:42 Zectro: what is the issue with the insane? owo
15:42 Exa: "needs more work"
15:42 Exa: that's all I know
15:42 Zectro: 00:17:960 (1,2) - I guess this feels kinda awkward
15:42 Zectro: like the long break in between them
15:43 Exa: 00:12:246 (1,2) -
15:43 Zectro: oh also 00:29:389 (1,2) - you might just want to use some slider shapes that look more like the ones you have been using
15:43 Exa: They are exactly the same
15:43 Exa: hm
15:43 Zectro: yeah but 00:12:246 (1,2) -  fits way better since its after a more intense gameplay part
15:44 Zectro: 00:17:246 (7,8,9,1,2) - its moreso this thing that i dislike
15:44 Exa: 00:17:603 (9) - That's why I increased SV here
15:44 Exa: to make it more intense
15:44 Exa: Why is it bad tho >.<?
15:45 Zectro: i dislike 9 xD
15:45 Zectro: how about you try a 1/2 slider instead
15:45 Zectro: since there is a pretty big beat on 00:17:782 - 
15:46 Zectro: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4460600 this would probably solve the problem
15:46 Exa: hm you are right
15:46 Zectro: i mean it makes 00:17:960 (1,2) - feel better for sure
15:47 Zectro: then at 00:22:246 (7,8,9,10) -  you follow the tick sounds but you ignore them at 00:22:603 (1) - , which does not make that much sense
15:47 Zectro: I mean obviously you are following a different sound for 00:22:603 (1) - but it's right after the ticking that you follow with 00:22:246 (7,8,9,10) - so it may seem kinda weird
15:48 Exa: I agree, imma change that
15:49 Zectro: 00:41:175 (2,3) - these seem a bit close to eachother, it may be cool if you just move 00:41:532 (3,4) - 1 or 2 pixels to the right so it's more inbetween 00:40:817 (1,2) - 
15:50 Exa: tru
15:51 Zectro: i dont think 00:44:746 (8) -  is a good choice
15:51 Zectro: the back and forth
15:51 Zectro: because the sound goes on even after 00:44:746 (8) - 
15:51 Zectro: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4460624 would work better I think
15:51 Exa: 00:44:925 - The sound changes here
15:51 Zectro: yeah I know
15:51 Exa: And on the whole 1/1 beat it feels like a hold
15:51 Zectro: but it still feels kinda empty
15:52 Zectro: meh I just dont like leaving those kinds of sounds unslidered when mapping future bass
15:52 Zectro: it breaks immersion imo
15:52 Zectro: so the example that I linked you, something like that, would be what I'd do
15:53 Zectro: plus if you do that it's consistent with 00:56:175 (1,2) - 
15:53 Exa: Hm alright your explanation is legit
15:53 Exa: so Imma do it like this
15:53 Zectro: which is important
15:54 Exa: ye I just saw that as well
15:54 Zectro: to be honest 01:00:282 (2,4) -  would look cooler if you curved them aswell
15:55 Exa: I've already curved many sliders there ;w;
15:55 Zectro: yeah I know
15:56 Zectro: stil though, them not being curved triggers me
15:56 Exa: hm alright I'll think about it
15:56 Zectro: just a little bit, like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4460657
15:57 Zectro: plus youd get to blanket 01:00:639 (4,7) - , now doesn't that sound like an awesome deal huh? :>
15:57 Exa: it does XD
15:58 Zectro: 01:03:853 (6) - for this little guy here, I know what you did here but I still suggest just rotating the tail in the direction of the tripple, http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4460670
15:58 Zectro: just so noone with ocd explodes
15:58 Exa: 00:58:496 (1,2) - but
15:58 Zectro: OH
15:58 Zectro: I know why I want  01:00:282 (2,4) - curved now
15:59 Exa: :D?
15:59 Zectro: 00:58:496 (1,2) - these are not following the future bass sounds 00:59:032 (1,2,5,2,4) - follow, and 00:59:032 (1,2,5) - are all curved so 01:00:282 (2,4) - should be aswell
15:59 Zectro: thats what triggered me xd
15:59 Zectro: i am aware of 00:57:960 (1,2) -  but those should not matter
16:00 Exa: you
16:00 Exa: have one hell of an eye
16:00 Zectro: or ear
16:00 Exa: ok that's enough for me to change them
16:00 Exa: or ear
16:00 Exa: XD
16:01 Exa: it takes both to see that
16:01 Zectro: also inb4 this got qualified without fixing 01:18:050 (1) - 
16:01 Zectro: or did I just unknowingly move it back by accident
16:01 Zectro: forward*
16:02 Exa: um
16:02 Exa: sec
16:02 Zectro: nop its not me xD
16:02 Exa: http://puu.sh/mUlJI/b9f9d6709c.jpg
16:02 Zectro: noo not that
16:02 Zectro: it doesn't start on the white tick
16:02 Zectro: but on the blue one
16:02 Zectro: i think
16:03 Zectro: yeah
16:03 Exa: o shit
16:03 Exa: you are right
16:03 Exa: wtf im blind
16:03 Zectro: lol dw
16:03 Zectro: I just dunno about the positioning of 01:03:139 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 
16:03 Zectro: I personally don't like it xD
16:04 Zectro: i dont like how 01:03:139 (1,2,3) - is set up, leading up to how 01:03:496 (3,4,5,6) -  works
16:04 Zectro: i wouldnt bubble the map with this pattern
16:04 Exa: hm why tho
16:04 Exa: is it subjective tho
16:04 Zectro: yes
16:04 Zectro: it is
16:05 Exa: are is there a reason behind
16:05 Exa: o
16:05 Exa: I'll think about changing it
16:05 Zectro: moving 01:03:675 (4,5,6) -  to x245y141 fixes it for me tho
16:05 Zectro: or wait let me think of a less lazy fix
16:06 Exa: basically increase spacing?
16:06 Zectro: yeah
16:06 Zectro: and
16:06 Zectro: rotate 01:03:675 (4,5,6) - to the right, but ofc keep 01:03:496 (3,6) - pointing in the same direction
16:07 Zectro: something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4460701
16:07 Exa: yeah that does seem to flow better
16:07 Exa: it's not as forceful vertical movement
16:07 Zectro: you also have the option of doing http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4460703
16:08 Zectro: but then i'd decrease the spacing between 01:03:675 (4,5,6) - as a whole
16:08 Zectro: since a more tight tripple would be cooler for that
16:08 Exa: decrease?
16:08 Exa: oh
16:08 Zectro: so yeah you have a bunch of options there
16:08 Exa: hm
16:08 Exa: you mean the triple spacing
16:08 Zectro: yes
16:08 Zectro: yeah, idk if I like the big tripple spacing there anyways
16:09 Exa: Imma change that as well then
16:09 Zectro: i would do something closer to 01:07:067 (2,3,4) - 's spacing
16:09 Zectro: for that consistency
16:09 Zectro: for that eye candy mapping
16:09 Zectro: :>
16:09 Exa: y that's what I was thinking
16:09 Exa: if im gonna get it tighter, i might aswell be consistent
16:10 Zectro: how about 01:16:353 (8) - to x183y61
16:10 Zectro: for a less clumsy jump here 01:16:174 (7,8) - 
16:12 Exa: wow that's increasing the spacign way too much
16:12 Exa: I want it to be calm and easy
16:12 Zectro: you could always move 01:16:532 (1) - up
16:13 Exa: 01:16:532 (1,2) - The jump here would be too small
16:13 Zectro: true
16:14 Zectro: whatever its not that big of an issue anyways, lets leave it
16:14 Exa: yup yup
16:15 Zectro: how aboutttt 01:19:032 (4) - to x406y34
16:15 Zectro: also im pretty sure one of 01:19:032 (4,5,6) - should be ncd
16:17 Zectro: 01:26:889 (2,3) - I HIGHLY recommend you ctrl+g this rythm
16:17 Zectro: for quite obvious reasons
16:17 Exa: 01:18:675 (3,4) - Want to stop the player and then have sudden movement for extra emphasis
16:17 Zectro: yeah but that does not work too well imo
16:17 Exa: 01:26:889 (2,3) - I don't get it
16:17 Zectro: a slow cursor motion to 01:19:032 (4) - and then a jump feels better
16:17 Exa: What do you want me to do exactly
16:18 Exa: nah I really want the player to stop there
16:18 Exa: then again
16:18 Exa: the music is still escalating
16:18 Exa: so I see where you are comming from
16:18 Zectro: alright
16:18 Exa: I'll think about it
16:18 Zectro: it just feels sooooo weak compared to the music
16:19 Zectro: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4460766 for 01:26:889 (2,3) - 
16:20 Exa: 00:35:103 (1,2) - I've
16:20 Exa: 00:46:532 (1,2,3) - Doing
16:20 Exa: 00:41:175 (2,3) - Been
16:20 Exa: 00:49:389 (1,2,3) - That
16:20 Zectro: oh oops
16:20 Exa: Alot
16:21 Exa: I am not following the beats per se
16:21 Exa: I am following the sounds contained within the sliders
16:21 Zectro: okie
16:21 Zectro: 01:27:960 (7,8) - does not flow too well because of 01:28:139 (8) - but it's purely up to you if you want to change it
16:22 Zectro: I would also consider changing 01:30:460 (8) - to the thing you have done all the other 3 times and what I've talked about earlier
16:23 Exa: yeah
16:23 Zectro: 01:42:067 (2) - can be blanketed better if you look closely
16:24 Zectro: 01:43:317 (1) - I would not do this, even though it might seem great in the edittor but while playing I just know from experience how awkward the break between 01:42:604 (1,1) - feels
16:24 Zectro: I'd position 01:43:317 (1) - somewhere else and change it's shape a bit so it flows better with the new position, that's all
16:25 Exa: Hm I'll think about it
16:25 Exa: since I actually like how it plays
16:26 Zectro: ow okay
16:26 Zectro: well it plays fine but not if you compare it to the rest of the map
16:26 Zectro: which has this really nice flow
16:26 Zectro: but if you'd throw that into powerpuff girls then yeah it'd work
16:27 Exa: So it's a matter of relativity
16:27 Exa: in that case you might have a valid point
16:28 Exa: A I need to go in 5' so
16:28 Zectro: no problem
16:28 Exa: Didn't expect an IRC XD
16:28 Zectro: were nearly done
16:28 Zectro: yeah dont worry me neither
16:28 Exa: yup yup
16:28 Exa: lol
16:29 Zectro: 02:27:246 (3) - not sure if this shape is entirely appropriate here but that's up to you
16:29 Exa: y it's a special snowflake
16:30 Zectro: ;w;
16:30 Exa: its small curvy and cute just like the vocals
16:30 Zectro: since 02:28:317 (1) - is so loud I highly dislike it's current position 
16:30 Exa: or whatever that sound is
16:30 Zectro: even though I fully understand what the idea behind it is obviously
16:31 Exa: yea trying to decrease speed so the next part is emphasized better
16:31 Zectro: but I still dont think the current position is appropriate
16:31 Zectro: qq
16:31 Zectro: no idea where to put it though
16:32 Zectro: nothing fits
16:32 Zectro: so yeah lets leave it
16:32 Exa: XD
16:32 Exa: That's pretty much how i think of alternatives
16:32 Zectro: i'd have giant spacing in between these
16:32 Zectro: to emphasize each of them
16:33 Exa: I've never used giant spacing in this map
16:33 Exa: so relatively I don't want to do it here either
16:33 Zectro: surr
16:33 Zectro: i sux at hards so i probably would not have found much anyway
16:33 Exa: nah hard is cool
16:34 Exa: oh
16:34 Exa: you mean hard diffs
16:34 Zectro: no
16:34 Exa: I think you did amazing actually
16:34 Zectro: i specialize in harder diffs
16:34 Zectro: but if i'm correct you told me Hard and Insane were the problem
16:34 Zectro: I'm suprised noz extra aint a problem
16:34 Exa: normal and insane
16:34 Zectro: oooh
16:35 Exa: but ye I think you did enough XD
16:35 Zectro: xD
16:35 Exa: normal only has rhythmical issues as far as I am aware
16:35 Exa: but i rly gtg
16:35 Zectro: alrighttt
16:35 Zectro: cyaa

Avishay

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Joined April 2013

Avishay 2016-02-03T16:16:09+00:00

As requested, yo.

[Normal]

00:37:246 (4,5) - The placement and movement is kinda odd and boring, try having something like this: http://puu.sh/mUmVu/bf2791a83f.jpg
00:39:032 (2) - Spacing is not equal but the movement is a bit forced nontheless, you could do something like this: http://puu.sh/mUn4I/80daef45bd.jpg
00:41:889 (3) - The previous slider and circle are flowing more to the right so placing this slider here is a big weird, you could either move slider 3 or change the placement of the ending anchor of 00:40:817 (1) - with the circle afterwards.
00:44:746 (3) - Finish on sliderend feels kinda bad here, also, if I might, I want to suggest extending 00:44:746 (3) - until 00:45:282 and making some different pattern, since it goes better with the music here.
00:50:460 (3) - Move the anchor below the slider line so the curve will be in the different direction, this way it'll flow nicely with the previous circle and slider.
00:59:032 (3) - The repetition doesn't feel right, it follows the ringing sounds in the background although you haven't really followed them properly so far.
01:01:175 (3,4) - A circle into a slider will work better here.
01:05:996 (5) - Extend it until 01:06:353 to follow the rhythm better, it plays nicely too.
01:21:531 (2,3) - Ew blanket ;;
02:18:675 (2,3) - That gap is really really weirdddddd, a pattern like this will work better: http://puu.sh/mUoBb/2a30d774c5.jpg
02:24:746 (3,4) - I can't really understand thsi pattern.. It's odd imo, movement wise.

[Insane]

00:31:532 (4) - Is the 1/4 slider really necessary here? It's misleading and you even muted it, so..
00:34:032 (2) - NC here for the SV change
00:42:960 (1,2,3,4) - So many 1/4 sliders are not complimented by the song, if you wish to keep some, then 00:43:317 (3,4) - are fine since they land on the strong vocals.
00:44:746 (8) - Reverse is not unnecessary, if you wish to have a different pattern then a circle into a slider would becool.
00:58:496 (1,2) - Those are not going well with the instruments you are following.. You are using the 1/4 on held instrument but here it's just wrong, 1/2 just like at 01:00:996 (6,7,8) - is great.
01:03:764 (5) - Not sure this overmap is well here..
01:15:460 (2) - CTRL+G is nice here, this way the movement into the stream is much better.
01:17:960 (1) - This is self-explanatory lol, look at the snapping.
01:22:782 (9) - Move it a bit closer to the next slide so the spacing here 01:22:782 (9,1,2) - is even
01:23:675 (1,2) - Try this pattern instead http://puu.sh/mUpmK/cc99b94e71.jpg goes along better imo
01:30:460 (8) - Same as 00:44:746 (8) - ^
01:42:067 (2,1,1) - I cant' really point out why and how, but those sliders just feel bad in terms of rhythm and execution, I can't really find anything better for now, but this is how I feel.
02:05:103 (3) - A sliderend instead of a circle will play much better, this note is not significant enough to be pressed on.

There are some sections that I like in both diffs and some that I really don't, I am dying from a headache right now so I might recheck later, but I pointed some stuff that should remove some of the awkwardness I found in some sections.

Good luck!

Grim Rapper

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Grim Rapper 2016-02-05T15:56:17+00:00

[ B l u e ] wrote:
oMg last time i saw this was when i playtested it but now after forever its like <33333 *invisible star shoot because i have no kudosu*

pew pew

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2016-02-05T21:19:28+00:00

I said I should take a look at Insane so :

[Insane]

00:02:603 (3,1) - You're doing a counter movement from your previous pattern and play bad imo. If you doing like this http://puu.sh/mX7zR/af7ea869a5.jpg you even doing a consistent spacing for 00:02:960 (1,2,3) - .
00:44:746 (8,1,2) - This sudden low spacing is counter intuitive here, it's better imo to do a stack, a really low spacing as anti-jump or just use normal spacing. This is not the only place where this is present, so if you fix this one fix other.
00:56:353 (2,3) - This overlap is really the only one I find ugly on the diff tbh. Pls try to fix it.
01:17:603 (5,6,1) - This flow is really weird. Your slider obvious show a movement going down but you force a upward movement.
01:18:050 (1) - Wtf happend to this slider ? You forget to replace it at 01:17:960 - right ?
01:20:817 (1,2,3) - Why they don't have same spacing here ? It's even more weird when 01:21:532 (3) - have a clap on it so should be strong enough to use same spacing than the two sliders. Also inconsistent with 01:26:532 (1,2,3) - .
02:21:086 (2,3,6,7,8) - Explain me why you map these and no other on this section. For me they have no sense at all on this global section.
02:29:389 (4) - Should not have NC here ?

Should be enough I guess ? Rest play well.
Mukyu~

Exa

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Topic Starter

Exa 2016-02-07T18:35:43+00:00

Avishay wrote:
[Normal]

~~Will remap or have a GD made, thanks for the mod tho!~~

00:37:246 (4,5) - The placement and movement is kinda odd and boring, try having something like this: http://puu.sh/mUmVu/bf2791a83f.jpg Changed the placement but not the rhythm.
00:39:032 (2) - Spacing is not equal but the movement is a bit forced nontheless, you could do something like this: http://puu.sh/mUn4I/80daef45bd.jpg Equalized it better and hopefully the flow is a bit more gentle now.
00:41:889 (3) - The previous slider and circle are flowing more to the right so placing this slider here is a big weird, you could either move slider 3 or change the placement of the ending anchor of 00:40:817 (1) - with the circle afterwards. Yeah, the flow changed when I changed the last pattern.
00:44:746 (3) - Finish on sliderend feels kinda bad here, also, if I might, I want to suggest extending 00:44:746 (3) - until 00:45:282 and making some different pattern, since it goes better with the music here. Nice catch, removed finish but did not extend the slider. It's pretty clear that it should stop there.
00:50:460 (3) - Move the anchor below the slider line so the curve will be in the different direction, this way it'll flow nicely with the previous circle and slider. Did a thing.
00:59:032 (3) - The repetition doesn't feel right, it follows the ringing sounds in the background although you haven't really followed them properly so far. It follows the bass sounds which I am trying to do as consistently as possible.
01:01:175 (3,4) - A circle into a slider will work better here. I... I don't get it.
01:05:996 (5) - Extend it until 01:06:353 to follow the rhythm better, it plays nicely too. Completely changed the rhythm.
01:21:531 (2,3) - Ew blanket ;; Eww k ;;
02:18:675 (2,3) - That gap is really really weirdddddd, a pattern like this will work better: http://puu.sh/mUoBb/2a30d774c5.jpg And what about the bass beat?
02:24:746 (3,4) - I can't really understand thsi pattern.. It's odd imo, movement wise. I find noting wrong with it. It even works well towards emphasizing the second slider's beat!
[Insane]
00:31:532 (4) - Is the 1/4 slider really necessary here? It's misleading and you even muted it, so.. Did that because the same sound is represented using a slider just before that so it felt weird with a note.
00:34:032 (2) - NC here for the SV change The curvature is enough to prevent breaking combo, besides the SV change is not actually notable.
00:42:960 (1,2,3,4) - So many 1/4 sliders are not complimented by the song, if you wish to keep some, then 00:43:317 (3,4) - are fine since they land on the strong vocals. I really like the tension this pattern creates and I made sure that the 2 sliders you pointed out are emphasized more than the others in both terms of spacing and flow.
00:44:746 (8) - Reverse is not unnecessary, if you wish to have a different pattern then a circle into a slider would becool. Yeah, changed it.
00:58:496 (1,2) - Those are not going well with the instruments you are following.. You are using the 1/4 on held instrument but here it's just wrong, 1/2 just like at 01:00:996 (6,7,8) - is great. They are going perfectly fine with what I am following (which is not the necessarily the bass but I changed their shape to differentiate from the ones that contain the bass sample
01:03:764 (5) - Not sure this overmap is well here.. There is a pretty noticeable dolphin sound there which I do not wish to skip. I changed the flow a little bit tho since it didn't flow that well.
01:15:460 (2) - CTRL+G is nice here, this way the movement into the stream is much better. I have been using small jumps for these sounds, I get that it would be more fun but it would be inconsistent and far too tense for this section.
01:17:960 (1) - This is self-explanatory lol, look at the snapping. Yeah fk me fixed it.
01:22:782 (9) - Move it a bit closer to the next slide so the spacing here 01:22:782 (9,1,2) - is even Did a thing XD
01:23:675 (1,2) - Try this pattern instead http://puu.sh/mUpmK/cc99b94e71.jpg goes along better imo I would skip a sound if I used an extended slider!
01:30:460 (8) - Same as 00:44:746 (8) - ^ Changed it for the better I think.
01:42:067 (2,1,1) - I cant' really point out why and how, but those sliders just feel bad in terms of rhythm and execution, I can't really find anything better for now, but this is how I feel. I really can't work with that and I also like how they play. They slowly relieve tension but while keeping things interesting with the different circular movements.
02:05:103 (3) - A sliderend instead of a circle will play much better, this note is not significant enough to be pressed on. I dissagree, it is the last not and it sounds more like something you would need to tap in order to make that sound.

Last edited by Exa 2016-02-09T12:56:36+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Exa

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Topic Starter

Exa 2016-02-07T18:48:06+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
I said I should take a look at Insane so :

[Insane]
00:02:603 (3,1) - You're doing a counter movement from your previous pattern and play bad imo. If you doing like this http://puu.sh/mX7zR/af7ea869a5.jpg you even doing a consistent spacing for 00:02:960 (1,2,3) - . The counter-movement ephasized the future bass beat along with the sounds companying it much better.
00:44:746 (8,1,2) - This sudden low spacing is counter intuitive here, it's better imo to do a stack, a really low spacing as anti-jump or just use normal spacing. This is not the only place where this is present, so if you fix this one fix other. Yeah changed that completely from previous mods.
00:56:353 (2,3) - This overlap is really the only one I find ugly on the diff tbh. Pls try to fix it. Equalized it's tail's spacing from the straight slider's head and tail. It should look much better but I kept the overalp since it now makes sense :3
01:17:603 (5,6,1) - This flow is really weird. Your slider obvious show a movement going down but you force a upward movement. Trying to differentiate the transition towards the next section with different movement.
01:18:050 (1) - Wtf happend to this slider ? You forget to replace it at 01:17:960 - right ? Yeah I fixed it!
01:20:817 (1,2,3) - Why they don't have same spacing here ? It's even more weird when 01:21:532 (3) - have a clap on it so should be strong enough to use same spacing than the two sliders. Also inconsistent with 01:26:532 (1,2,3) - . Same spaced'd!
02:21:086 (2,3,6,7,8) - Explain me why you map these and no other on this section. For me they have no sense at all on this global section. Just being stupid, changed it! (I hope it's readable since I had problems with this kind of pattern a while ago)
02:29:389 (4) - Should not have NC here ? Not sure but added NC anyways.

Should be enough I guess ? Rest play well. >..<
Mukyu~ Best grill

Double post cause why not.

Bonsai

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Joined July 2011

Bonsai 2016-02-08T00:19:12+00:00

Heyho, after knowing this map for so long I thought I should help a bit too

/

General

How about adding increasing volume to the very last spinner since there is pretty much nothing until 02:40:282 where it starts getting louder towards the end?

Easy

01:57:960 (1) - In the previous combo there is a lot more mapped than just the piano, so at least I naturally expected the sounds that repeat themselves every 2/1 will be mapped too, so I think shortening this slider to 2/1 and reversing it once more would be really cool. Also, I don't really see a reason for 02:00:460 (2) to be off-beat as the beat on the tail is clearly more important than the one on the head - At 01:09:032 (2) I undestand it bc it leads better into the break, but that's not the case here
02:01:175 (1) - t/241019&start=0 It's not official (yet?), but this might not be enough recovery time. Not even minding that, the only increasing / more-intense-getting sound I hear starts at 02:03:675 and ends at 02:05:103 which would give enough recovery time too! (And be consistent with Hard)
If you wanna be risky and not shorten it, then I'd suggest adding a circle at 01:20:103 too bc that's the same time gap, and it feels pretty empty there already, I just didn't point it out yet bc I thought you're not risking the recovery time-thing
Also, while we're at spinners: 00:29:389 (1) - Here the appropriate sound for a spinner starts at 00:32:246 too, is that not enough time or why did you start these sliders earlier? Auto gets 7k, should be enough afaik
02:06:532 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Could you please be a bit more creative with the rhythms? Theoretically this is not the most ideal rhythm anyways as every second major downbeat is always on a tail/reverse, so I strongly believe that you could create a bit of variety here. I really liked this Easy so far, very neat and all that stuff, so this is kinda disappointing tbh
02:32:246 (3,1) - What's the reason for the NC not being on the downbeat?
02:36:889 (2,3,1,1) - Ok so these offbeat-sliders are a bit weird by nature, but my main issue here is that 02:37:960 is not clickable while 02:38:496 (1,1) are, so I'd suggest making (2,3) into circle-slider-circle (or a reverse-3/2 at the end), I just don't like this inconsistency, also counting NCing

Normal

Oh, I thought my download was corrupt or smth like that - Feel free to call me back when it's finished if you want!

Hard

Very minor suggestion: 00:02:067 (4,5) - Maybe ctrl-g that rhythm to make it a bit more interesting, emphasizing the bass beat more? It would also differentiate more from 00:04:925 (4,5,6,7,8,9) but seeing 00:06:175 (9,1) I guess you don't wanna focus on bass beat, nvm
00:12:960 (1) - The NC seems unnecessary, just creates imbalance with the drain - I generally don't like how you put a lot of them in the Kiai, like yeah sometimes it makes a bit of sense like 00:36:710 (5,1) bc there's actually only different stuff in the second combo than in the first, but some like 00:41:889 (1) don't make sense at all, and it creates imbalance when there are still such long combos like 00:37:960 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -, so I'd either make it NC every measure in those long combos too or just keep them every second combo
01:00:103 (1,2,3,4,5) - After emphasizing the dolphins in the previous combo so well, I dislike here that you barely differentiate between dolphins and no-dolphins, only by slider-direction, I feel like differentiating with beat placement too would be way better, like maybe making (2,3) circles or whatever
01:06:532 (7) - This reeaally calls for a NC lol
Minor suggestion: 01:15:817 (3,4) - Since there is a quite prominent sound on the tail of (4), I'd suggest extending (3) by 1/2 and adding a circle there
01:57:246 (2,3) - I liked it better with a 1/1-slider at 01:55:817 (3,4) since then it's not so many 1/2-sliders in a row, and since this is the exact same in the song why not do it here too? Would also make 01:57:782 clickable which would be a good transition into the next patterns
Ok about the spinners, generally I'd say the same as in Easy being that it would be way more appropriate if they started at 00:32:246 and 02:03:675 and I just saw that in the Insane you didn't put any spinners there at all, so to me it really just seems like you were a bit lazy tbh, could've mapped those two measures prior to the spinners too then
02:05:460 (1,1) - Seems weird to map those (especially with a Clap) and then not map 02:06:175 -, theres nothing on the circles that isn't there too, why not just leave this empty? It's not really noticeable what those are mapped to anyways with the hitsounds. Also, they aren't mapped in any other diff lol
02:15:460 (1,1,1,2,1,1,1) - wtf those are really unnecessary, the antijumps emphasize that enough already, no need to screw up the HP/drain even further
02:29:389 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I don't understand this NCing at all, please reconsider

Insane

00:29:389 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - The SV here seems very forced, way too high - It would make sense if they all emphasized that sounds that is for example also at the tails but not on the heads of 00:29:746 (2) - 00:30:817 (2) - 00:32:603 (4) - but like this it just feels forced, I'd highly recommend reducing it for this rather calm section
00:33:675 (1) - What. Like, why. And how do you even get that idea. There is absolutely nothing there, which you seem to have noticed too since you silenced the complete slider. So, uh, why? would you map! that. Is mapping water-rippling a thing now or what
00:45:460 (3,4) - That low spacing does not seem appropriate to me when the vocals are still that strong tbh, not making 00:45:817 clickable already takes a lot from the potential emphasis away and pretty much not moving at all there is just kinda boring and feels weird / 'empty' to me
00:58:496 (1,2) - Mapping these two with sliders does not make sense with how you used them for the rest of this section, you only use them for the heavy bass beats but here there's only cure little dolphins, and those dolphins are at 00:58:853 (3,3,4) and many other beats too, so why only make these two sliders? I highly recommend removing those two
01:22:782 (9,1) - Since you're just NCing by patterns anyways I'd make this NC at (9) already
01:55:817 (3) - There isn't really any strong sound on the tail, mapping it anyways takes away all the 'meaning' from the other tails that actually have strong sounds on them, so I'd advise to just map a circle there, same for 01:57:246 (7) ofc
02:24:746 (4,5) - Why is this spacing so low?
02:27:960 (6,1,1) - Would make sense to NC (6) too, wouldn't it?
02:29:389 - From here on the NCing seems completely random, not even NCing any particular patterns like 02:34:032 (7,8,9) so please just NC every measure or explain your thought process very detailed lol

Noz's Extra

Hey there, long time no see
00:00:818 (1,2) - These two sliders really suggest that all those heavy beats are gonna be mapped like that, and while it's neglectible from the third combo on, I feel like it's really weird that 00:02:067 (2) is not emphasized at all, so since there is nothing particularly prominent at 00:02:246 anyways I'd suggest mapping such a slider there too
00:16:175 (1,2) - The jump to the next combo seems really huge, compared to 00:15:817 (5,1) -, namely because the movement from (1) to (2) is mainly going to the left and not upwards, so that jump upwards is unexpected anyways -> How about stacking the tail of (2) on the tail of 00:16:889 (1) like this?
00:33:675 (5) - Yeah okay I raged about this in the Insane already, pleeaase, there is literally nothing there except water-rippling noises, why the hell are you mapping that, is there any rhythm in that? Q_Q It also makes 00:33:675 (5,1,2,1,2) just play in one chain, there is nothing emphasized anymore, I mean what should I expect after a slider that has literally nothing it is mapped on lol
00:37:067 (5) - The tail not being clickable is really weird, especially since it should be part of the pattern of the next three circles, I don't see much reason for the offbeat-sldier anyways : \
00:55:639 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - I get a very terrible Déjà-vu from feeling like I don't even play the song anymore bc I can't hear any hitsounds anymore, please raise the volume back again lol
01:00:103 (2,3,1,2,3) - Making exactly the same movement when there's completely different stuff happening doesn't feel right, please differentiate between those at least a bit
01:09:389 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Can you silence the slidertails that are overmapped please? D:
01:13:585 (8,1) - There was not a single clickable 1/4-jump in this map so far, and now suddenly you map it in pretty much the calmest section of the whole song, semi-hidden under a stack? That catches players extremely off-guard, please nerf that - Why not space 01:13:228 (6,7,8,1) equally to emphasize the car-keys-activating-noise too?
01:23:675 (1,2,3) - Are those placed so weirdly on purpose?
01:46:353 - 01:52:067 - Can you put 5% volume on these since they are overmapped?
01:57:960 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,1) - This very smooth circular flow doesn't feel right for this, it doesn't emphasze anything at all really, doesn't express this repeating pattern at all imo

Powerpuff Grills

I have played and looked at this diff so often already, can't point anything out really, I totally love it <3 Map more stuff like this please [/fangirl]

I hope I could help speed things up a bit, good luck!

wasonz

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Joined July 2013

wasonz 2016-02-08T18:10:00+00:00

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2016-02-08T22:48:39+00:00

Bonsai wrote:
Heyho, after knowing this map for so long I thought I should help a bit too /

Noz's Extra
Hey there, long time no see HAHAHA pls
00:00:818 (1,2) - These two sliders really suggest that all those heavy beats are gonna be mapped like that, and while it's neglectible from the third combo on, I feel like it's really weird that 00:02:067 (2) is not emphasized at all, so since there is nothing particularly prominent at 00:02:246 anyways I'd suggest mapping such a slider there too - Ok
00:16:175 (1,2) - The jump to the next combo seems really huge, compared to 00:15:817 (5,1) -, namely because the movement from (1) to (2) is mainly going to the left and not upwards, so that jump upwards is unexpected anyways -> How about stacking the tail of (2) on the tail of 00:16:889 (1) like this? - Still want to keep them close like that because they're the same sound.
00:33:675 (5) - Yeah okay I raged about this in the Insane already, pleeaase, there is literally nothing there except water-rippling noises, why the hell are you mapping that, is there any rhythm in that? Q_Q It also makes 00:33:675 (5,1,2,1,2) just play in one chain, there is nothing emphasized anymore, I mean what should I expect after a slider that has literally nothing it is mapped on lol - I think map this water is maybe strange but works well imo. I don't plan to remove it.
00:37:067 (5) - The tail not being clickable is really weird, especially since it should be part of the pattern of the next three circles, I don't see much reason for the offbeat-sldier anyways : \ - Fair enough, fixed.
00:55:639 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - I get a very terrible Déjà-vu from feeling like I don't even play the song anymore bc I can't hear any hitsounds anymore, please raise the volume back again lol - Fix
01:00:103 (2,3,1,2,3) - Making exactly the same movement when there's completely different stuff happening doesn't feel right, please differentiate between those at least a bit - Fix
01:09:389 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Can you silence the slidertails that are overmapped please? D: - Like I said on an other mod, this is worst on Fartow diff and you said nothing so it's k~
01:13:585 (8,1) - There was not a single clickable 1/4-jump in this map so far, and now suddenly you map it in pretty much the calmest section of the whole song, semi-hidden under a stack? That catches players extremely off-guard, please nerf that - Why not space 01:13:228 (6,7,8,1) equally to emphasize the car-keys-activating-noise too? - Move just the circles to stack with next slider. Rest is fine.
01:23:675 (1,2,3) - Are those placed so weirdly on purpose? - Wow pls ;w;
01:46:353 - 01:52:067 - Can you put 5% volume on these since they are overmapped? - Ya because 10% is not enough.
01:57:960 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,1) - This very smooth circular flow doesn't feel right for this, it doesn't emphasze anything at all really, doesn't express this repeating pattern at all imo - Meh I find it nice.
I hope I could help speed things up a bit, good luck!

Thx ♥

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