Shawn Wasabi - Marble Soda [Osu|OsuMania] · forum

Nozhomi

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Joined May 2013

Nozhomi 2015-09-23T10:17:44+00:00

Kayla wrote:
i'd criticize noz's extra too but the map is literally overall too boring to rate

10/10 would like this comment. Feel free to insult my mapping I don't care until you give me explanation about what is wrong.

Thx :3

Exa

445 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

Exa 2015-09-23T12:59:34+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
Kayla wrote:
i'd criticize noz's extra too but the map is literally overall too boring to rate
10/10 would like this comment. Feel free to insult my mapping I don't care until you give me explanation about what is wrong.

Thx :3

The whole post is clearly full of hatred for some reason. I even checked what he suggested for farto and only one thing seemed reasonable.
I say, if you think you can do better; go ahead and try out.

Snaggletooth

491 posts

Joined November 2012

Snaggletooth 2015-09-26T10:16:04+00:00

no kd

Nozhomi wrote:
Kayla wrote:
i'd criticize noz's extra too but the map is literally overall too boring to rate
10/10 would like this comment. Feel free to insult my mapping I don't care until you give me explanation about what is wrong.

Thx :3

Ugh, I dunno why but this made me check noz' extra. And I sadly have to agree to some extent.

First off, just because I agree that this map is to some extent 'boring' (I will later on elaborate on that), that dosn't
mean it's badly mapped. So now that we made this clear, let me point out stuff.

Also, this isn't exactly a mod. More some suggestions that you can apply throughout the map, or
not.

I think the main issue is simply that you repeat a lot of patterns in too short increments, too often.
This song builds on 'randomness' (not implying that it should be randomly mapped). It has lot's of
diffrent sounds, that still keep somewhat consistency. Which makes patterns like 00:16:164 (1,2,1,2) -
or 00:04:735 (1,2,1,2) - or 00:42:771 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - uncomfortable to play. You have similar/same
rhythms but with significantly different sounds. Changing the velocity or the spacing or the combo-color
is too little. The tapping-Rhythm remains the same, which then ends up making certain spots insignifficant.

This is why Kayla said it's boring. And I "agree" when it comes to patterns like mentioned above.

Let's take a look at 00:42:771 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - again.

The reason why this pattern dosn't work, is because while playing, you clearly hear the note progression
between 00:43:128 (7,8,9,1) - . Ontop of that, 00:42:771 (5,6) - these are 'similar' in a sense of that they
can work well together in a jump, due to the 'soft' sound on 00:42:771 (5) - and the harsh snare on 00:42:949 (6) - .
These two completely diffrent sound-patterns are tied into the same mapping-pattern, without differentiating them.
This causes the player to just play through it, without giving a shit. All potential power, play and fun that could
have come from this is lost. And this pattern is only concerned with placement, not even tapping-rhythm.

00:42:949 (6,7) - You need a flow-break between these two to differentiate them effectively, perhaps
a spacing-increase between 00:43:128 (7,8,9,1) - .

Pattern

You have the exact same issue on 01:57:949 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - but in a larger scale.
The diffrence between high and low pitch are signifficant in this section and should be empathized
with flow-breaks.

Alright, thats all from me. Like I said, it's not a mod, just something to show you why Kayla isn't
100% in the wrong here. These are points that at least imo should be improved before ranking it.

But hey. I'm no BN.
inb4: Into the trash this opinion goes.

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2015-09-26T10:26:48+00:00

Snaggletooth wrote:
But hey. I'm no BN.
inb4: Into the trash this opinion goes.

Whether you're a BN or not is irrelevant, since BNs are exactly the same as regular modders; they just have the ability to bubble/qualify stuff. Someone can be an experienced and helpful modder but not be a BN.

I was planning to mod this before I go away on Monday but sadly due to work commitments that's not looking possible - apologies for the inconvenience. I'll be back in the second week of October, so if I'm holding you up and you'd prefer to find someone else I won't be offended. Otherwise, let's try to keep the thread clean and work on making this mapset the best it can be.

Snaggletooth

491 posts

Joined November 2012

Snaggletooth 2015-09-26T10:51:01+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:
Snaggletooth wrote:
But hey. I'm no BN.
inb4: Into the trash this opinion goes.
Whether you're a BN or not is irrelevant, since BNs are exactly the same as regular modders; they just have the ability to bubble/qualify stuff. Someone can be an experienced and helpful modder but not be a BN.

I was planning to mod this before I go away on Monday but sadly due to work commitments that's not looking possible - apologies for the inconvenience. I'll be back in the second week of October, so if I'm holding you up and you'd prefer to find someone else I won't be offended. Otherwise, let's try to keep the thread clean and work on making this mapset the best it can be.

The last line was more or less a joke, considering that this acctually is something I see quite often.
People disregarding other modders opinions simply because 'BUT BN' while not considering that
BNs can be wrong as well.

I guess I kept the thread clean (except for this answer now), considering that everything said was done to
help the mapper improve his map, if he acctually wants to.

Exa

445 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

Exa 2015-09-26T11:54:50+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:
I was planning to mod this before I go away on Monday but sadly due to work commitments that's not looking possible - apologies for the inconvenience. I'll be back in the second week of October, so if I'm holding you up and you'd prefer to find someone else I won't be offended. Otherwise, let's try to keep the thread clean and work on making this mapset the best it can be.

Seems like I will be waiting and maybe get some more mods in the meantime.
Too many BNs bailed off after saying "will check later" due to work and such, so I can't really do otherwise.

Nozhomi

Global Moderator

4,568 posts

Joined May 2013

Nozhomi 2015-09-26T21:44:16+00:00

Snaggletooth wrote:
I think the main issue is simply that you repeat a lot of patterns in too short increments, too often.
This song builds on 'randomness' (not implying that it should be randomly mapped). It has lot's of
diffrent sounds, that still keep somewhat consistency. Which makes patterns like 00:16:164 (1,2,1,2) -
or 00:04:735 (1,2,1,2) - or 00:42:771 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - uncomfortable to play. You have similar/same
rhythms but with significantly different sounds. Changing the velocity or the spacing or the combo-color
is too little. The tapping-Rhythm remains the same, which then ends up making certain spots insignifficant.

Snaggletooth wrote:
You have the exact same issue on 01:57:949 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - but in a larger scale.
The diffrence between high and low pitch are signifficant in this section and should be empathized
with flow-breaks.

Changed 1st one because was enough fair and different to try something different.

For 00:04:735 (1,2,1,2) - that's not enough different to make me change it sorry.

For the other, your point are valid and all other probably should did it like you said. But sadly that's not how I see it here.
I prefer have a clean pattern, like star for 00:42:771 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - , instead of have a free diff pick even if it emphasis well the song. That's how I want to map it, and there is nothing wrong with it, and your suggestion is good too, but that's not how I want to map it.

Sorry, and if my diff is that bad, just remove it then. I know I'm not good at mapping so well one more or one less who care.

Thx anyway Snaggletooth~

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Kayla

259 posts

Joined August 2013

Kayla 2015-09-27T12:10:06+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:

Snaggletooth wrote:
I think the main issue is simply that you repeat a lot of patterns in too short increments, too often.
This song builds on 'randomness' (not implying that it should be randomly mapped). It has lot's of
diffrent sounds, that still keep somewhat consistency. Which makes patterns like 00:16:164 (1,2,1,2) -
or 00:04:735 (1,2,1,2) - or 00:42:771 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - uncomfortable to play. You have similar/same
rhythms but with significantly different sounds. Changing the velocity or the spacing or the combo-color
is too little. The tapping-Rhythm remains the same, which then ends up making certain spots insignifficant.

Snaggletooth wrote:
You have the exact same issue on 01:57:949 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - but in a larger scale.
The diffrence between high and low pitch are signifficant in this section and should be empathized
with flow-breaks.

Changed 1st one because was enough fair and different to try something different.

For 00:04:735 (1,2,1,2) - that's not enough different to make me change it sorry.

For the other, your point are valid and all other probably should did it like you said. But sadly that's not how I see it here.
I prefer have a clean pattern, like star for 00:42:771 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - , instead of have a free diff pick even if it emphasis well the song. That's how I want to map it, and there is nothing wrong with it, and your suggestion is good too, but that's not how I want to map it.

Sorry, and if my diff is that bad, just remove it then. I know I'm not good at mapping so well one more or one less who care.

Thx anyway Snaggletooth~

shitdiff

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//Break Periods
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//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
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316,228,127949,6,0,B|344:192|344:192|324:132,1,100,0|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,8,128306,2,0,B|300:36|300:36|364:32,1,100,0|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
347,33,128574,1,0,0:0:0:0:
347,33,128664,1,8,0:0:0:0:
512,144,128842,1,0,0:0:0:0:
316,228,129021,1,0,0:0:0:0:
300,184,129110,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,172,129199,1,0,0:0:0:0:
212,184,129289,1,0,0:0:0:0:
196,227,129378,6,0,L|220:332,1,100,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
300,184,129735,2,0,L|277:86,1,100,0|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
116,173,130092,2,0,P|162:190|212:184,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,40,130449,1,4,0:0:0:0:
300,184,130628,1,0,0:0:0:0:
404,76,130806,5,0,0:0:0:0:
256,40,130985,1,4,0:0:0:0:
253,240,131164,2,0,B|303:272|346:240,1,100,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
464,148,131521,1,8,0:0:0:0:
320,99,131699,1,0,0:0:0:0:
204,292,131878,1,0,0:0:0:0:
160,304,131967,1,0,0:0:0:0:
116,292,132056,1,0,0:0:0:0:
92,256,132146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
96,212,132235,6,0,P|116:167|95:123,1,100,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,40,132592,2,0,P|235:84|256:128,1,100,0|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,244,132949,1,8,0:0:0:0:
470,95,133128,2,0,L|370:83,1,100,0|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
228,132,133485,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,244,133664,5,0,0:0:0:0:
228,132,133842,1,4,0:0:0:0:
470,95,134021,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,244,134199,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,83,134378,2,0,P|159:128|175:174,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
260,300,134735,2,0,L|148:312,1,100
0,228,135092,6,0,L|99:217,1,100,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,152,135449,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,32,135628,1,4,0:0:0:0:
98,216,135806,2,0,P|87:264|101:311,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
101,311,136074,1,0,0:0:0:0:
101,311,136164,1,4,0:0:0:0:
256,256,136342,1,0,0:0:0:0:
98,216,136521,5,0,0:0:0:0:
253,161,136699,1,0,0:0:0:0:
302,324,136878,2,0,P|256:341|210:324,1,100,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
210,60,137235,2,0,P|255:42|301:59,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
327,83,137503,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,130,137592,1,0,0:0:0:0:
366,155,137681,1,0,0:0:0:0:
383,202,137771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
404,227,137860,1,0,0:0:0:0:
423,273,137949,5,4,0:0:0:0:
327,83,138128,1,0,0:0:0:0:
475,201,138306,2,0,P|429:217|383:202,1,100,0|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
200,112,138664,1,8,0:0:0:0:
157,98,138753,1,0,0:0:0:0:
117,120,138842,1,0,0:0:0:0:
112,164,138931,1,0,0:0:0:0:
139,200,139021,1,4,0:0:0:0:
180,216,139110,1,0,0:0:0:0:
221,233,139199,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,268,139289,1,0,0:0:0:0:
250,312,139378,6,0,P|229:355|174:372,1,100,0|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
84,260,139735,2,0,P|131:256|173:295,1,100,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
24,320,140092,2,0,P|-2:280|10:224,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
104,80,140449,2,0,B|144:106|144:106|216:100,1,100,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
396,88,140806,5,4,0:0:0:0:
384,132,140896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
372,176,140985,1,0,0:0:0:0:
360,220,141074,1,0,0:0:0:0:
348,264,141164,1,0,0:0:0:0:
204,156,141342,1,4,0:0:0:0:
404,140,141521,2,0,L|376:240,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
348,384,141878,1,4,0:0:0:0:
488,120,142056,2,0,L|460:220,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
333,323,142414,5,4,0:0:0:0:
260,192,142592,1,0,0:0:0:0:
300,172,142681,1,0,0:0:0:0:
340,152,142771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
380,128,142860,1,0,0:0:0:0:
408,76,142949,2,4,L|318:121,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
162,145,143306,2,0,P|146:191|161:238,1,100
288,320,143664,5,4,0:0:0:0:
300,172,143842,1,0,0:0:0:0:
161,238,144021,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,320,144199,1,4,0:0:0:0:
346,118,144378,2,0,P|299:101|253:118,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
161,238,144735,1,4,0:0:0:0:
320,248,144914,1,0,0:0:0:0:
187,315,145092,6,0,P|138:316|97:289,1,100,0|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
44,148,145449,2,0,B|96:136|96:136|136:148|136:148|200:132,1,150,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
259,108,145806,2,0,P|368:144|259:180,1,300,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
424,92,146521,6,0,P|434:140|426:189,1,100,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
388,336,146878,2,0,P|420:296|488:288,1,100,0|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
316,304,147235,2,0,P|265:296|224:212,1,150,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
240,172,147592,5,4,0:0:0:0:
428,152,147771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
316,304,147949,1,0,0:0:0:0:
56,156,148306,6,0,L|8:112,2,50,4|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
156,268,148664,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,156,148842,1,0,0:0:0:0:
355,268,149021,2,0,P|397:206|403:132,1,150,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
388,96,149378,5,4,0:0:0:0:
312,32,149556,1,0,0:0:0:0:
200,32,149735,1,4,0:0:0:0:
100,116,149914,1,0,0:0:0:0:
80,144,150003,1,0,0:0:0:0:
100,172,150092,1,8,0:0:0:0:
220,244,150271,1,0,0:0:0:0:
228,96,150449,1,0,0:0:0:0:
100,172,150628,1,4,0:0:0:0:
232,264,150806,5,0,0:0:0:0:
400,236,150985,1,0,0:0:0:0:
284,96,151164,1,4,0:0:0:0:
244,284,151342,1,0,0:0:0:0:
412,172,151521,1,8,0:0:0:0:
228,96,151699,1,0,0:0:0:0:
252,300,151878,1,0,0:0:0:0:
468,216,152056,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,40,152235,5,4,0:0:0:0:
128,192,152414,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,344,152592,1,4,0:0:0:0:
288,332,152681,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,318,152771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,305,152860,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,292,152949,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,160,153128,1,0,0:0:0:0:
232,352,153306,2,0,P|221:324|219:294,1,59.9999981689454,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,160,153485,2,0,P|266:187|268:217,1,59.9999981689454,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
232,352,153664,5,0,0:0:0:0:
130,242,153842,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,160,154021,1,4,0:0:0:0:
358,270,154199,1,0,0:0:0:0:
198,206,154378,2,2,P|181:160|198:114,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
314,113,154735,2,2,P|330:159|314:206,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
198,113,155092,5,4,0:0:0:0:
256,252,155271,1,0,0:0:0:0:
314,113,155449,1,0,0:0:0:0:
345,96,155539,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,79,155628,1,0,0:0:0:0:
406,62,155717,1,0,0:0:0:0:
437,46,155806,1,0,0:0:0:0:
380,184,155985,1,4,0:0:0:0:
198,271,156164,1,0,0:0:0:0:
167,288,156253,1,0,0:0:0:0:
136,305,156342,1,4,0:0:0:0:
106,322,156431,1,0,0:0:0:0:
75,338,156521,5,0,0:0:0:0:
132,200,156699,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,76,156878,1,0,0:0:0:0:
380,200,157056,1,4,0:0:0:0:
198,271,157235,2,0,L|224:172,1,100,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
314,271,157592,2,0,L|288:172,1,100,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,28,157949,5,2,0:0:0:0:
256,52,158485,5,2,0:0:0:0:
256,76,159021,5,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,159378,12,0,161164,0:0:0:0:

Your difficulty isnt bad its just boring. Needs more substance.
Snaggletooth seen exactly what I did.

Exa

445 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

Exa 2015-09-27T19:21:59+00:00

Updated!

guineaQ

1,588 posts

Joined December 2013

guineaQ 2015-09-27T19:55:58+00:00

Uh wait, isn't this song 84 bpm

fartownik

2,189 posts

Joined December 2008

fartownik 2015-09-27T20:12:16+00:00

Kayla wrote:
hi i like this song and i feel like you and everyone else who mapped it keep destroying it and its bugging me so here is my awful mod full of gripes that i dont like about the powerpuff extra. i'd criticize noz's extra too but the map is literally overall too boring to rate. it feels empty and slow and i cant even.

other than these things, the map is great imo

00:16:521 (1,2,3,4,1) - why - lol why not
00:30:330 (2,3,1) - these arent neccesary. - why?
00:31:402 (2,3,1) - these arent necessary. - why?
00:40:033 (2,1) - more not necesary 1/6 - why?
00:44:914 (2) - unclean slider. copied and flipped for next slider. - looks pretty neat to me
00:47:235 (1,2,3) - dont really see why this is necessary the hitsounds end up ruining this section? you do this twice in the map. too busy. [1] - 'too busy'? what does that even mean?
00:54:735 (1,2,1) - deceptive spacing? happens at the end too. - plays, looks, sounds FINE
00:56:342 (2) - another unclean slider? copied and flipped again in standard fashion related to first unclean slider. please make it clean for me so I see why it's unclean because I still can't see it
01:17:056 (1,2,3,4) - not a 1/6 snare? - first actual suggestion that I will use. I forgot to change it before. Fixed.
01:20:092 (3) - you have a habit of using these weird bumpy sliders and then mirroring them during the same sections. its art right? no its messy. - no comment
01:25:747 (2,3) - more 1/6 overmapping. because if you change the beat snap high enough you can make two notes sound like one. - buy better headphones
01:32:949 (5,6) - sounds bad. referenced above @ [1] - referenced above
01:42:949 (3) - could these sliders be a little cleaner and more symmetrical? i mean thats what youre going for but you didnt spend time on them. - ...
01:54:735 (1) - what the actual - xD
02:12:235 (1) - nice fishing rod - thank you
02:23:217 (2) - thiis slider seems to have grown a tumor - yes, I actually never liked it, second suggestion out of a thousand that I will use! thank you

all in all your sliders are messy and you abuse beatsnap in areas where it shouldnt be abused because the song doesnt have a 1/6 + drum roll to warrant it. doesnt sound good and catches people off guard.

dont care if you change any of this. its completely biased/opinion. it will just reflect wether i play the map again or not.

@first sentence: I've got a great advice for you. If you don't like how someone mapped a certain song, map it yourself instead of forcing the other beatmapper to please your own perception of how you would map it. I'm desperately waiting for your own interpretation.

Last edited by fartownik 2015-09-27T20:14:57+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

fartownik

2,189 posts

Joined December 2008

fartownik 2015-09-27T20:14:38+00:00

http://puu.sh/kqnWX/854fca929a.osu

Snaggletooth

491 posts

Joined November 2012

Snaggletooth 2015-09-27T23:25:00+00:00

Kayla wrote:
Your difficulty isnt bad its just boring. Needs more substance.
Snaggletooth seen exactly what I did.

Yeah but I at least tried to be helpful.
And this is more because farto already touched on this.

Please, if you're going to mod a map, don't use sarcastic language.
I know you may think it's funny, but it's more often than not confusing
to mappers and modders alike. This is a Forum that is meant for constructive
critisism and help. Making this a comedic outlet wont help anyone. It just
comes off as rude.

And now I will shut up about this map. Sorry for yet another non-helping post, exa.

Good luck with this map~

Exa

445 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

Exa 2015-09-28T11:06:16+00:00

guineaQ wrote:
Uh wait, isn't this song 84 bpm

Can't reach 4.2 SV which PowerPuff uses with 84 bpm.

- Frontier -

1,854 posts

Joined April 2014

- Frontier - 2015-09-30T12:13:46+00:00

Could you give me BG source?

Exa

445 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

Exa 2015-10-01T10:39:51+00:00

ShockoLatte wrote:
Could you give me BG source?

Added it in the description.

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2015-10-06T12:07:17+00:00

I am late ):

General Comments:

Song Folder: Unused .osb file present, please remove this
Song Setup: Consider balancing out the AR spread between Normal>Hard a little, since 5>8 is pretty sizeable jump. Lowering the Hard to AR7 doesn't impact on the readability of the map for me and creates a nice E->I spread of 3/5/7/9
Metadata: No issues
Timing: No issues
Hitsounds: soft-hitfinish3, soft-hitwhistle4 and soft sliderslide3 are unused - please remove these.
AImod: No issues

Difficulty-Specific Comments:

Easy

00:09:378 (1) - This is very close to the health bar and may overlap with some skinned variants. I suggest you move it down a little to avoid this
00:18:664 (1,2,3) - Although this pattern is neat and tidy, considering the direction of cursor movement here, it's more natural to move to (3) instead of (2) here, which could trip up newer players. I suggest flattening out the triangle a bit here to make the intended sequence more clear to beginners
00:41:878 (2,3,1) - Similar thing here, but not as problematic. Rotating (3,1) anticlockwise slightly but keeping the equilateral triangle might help a little, but I don't feel changing this is essential
01:26:164 (3,1) - Kind of an awkward flow here for an Easy diff, making this a more flowing curve between 01:26:164 (3,2) would be better here in my opinion
02:29:378 (1,2,3,4) - I feel the snare drum sounds are under-emphasised in this section and it plays a little weirdly because of that. For example, (2) could be shortened to a 2/1 slider with a bend on the middle white tick as you've been doing throughout the rest of the map (00:20:806 (3) is a good example). This would then allow you to move (3) back to start on the downbeat which feels more natural to play as it's a more recognisable rhythm. Shortening this to a 2/1 slider as well allows you to put a repeat slider at 02:33:306 which is consistent with the "car locking sound" patterns used at 00:39:021 (2) - 01:24:735 (2) and lastly a 1/1 slider at 02:34:378 to emphasise the short vocal note.

Normal

00:05:092 (3,4,1) - Blanketing can be improved here
00:12:235 (7,1) - Swap NC here to emphasise the downbeat
00:15:092 (6) - NC here as this combo gets kinda long and is inconsistent in length with your others combos
00:16:164 (7) - This has the potential to overlap with some skinned health bars, move it down a little please
00:17:235 (9,1) - I feel it would be better to make this two 1/1 sliders, since 00:17:949 is a strong enough note to warrant being clickable
00:34:021 (1,2) - Blanket can be improved by curving (2) more (this is present in other places too, such as 00:38:306 (1,2) - 01:24:378 (2,3) - etc.
00:43:664 (6) - NC here please, same reason as 00:15:092 (6)
00:50:449 (3,4,1) - Flow is kinda awkward for newer players here since (3) is pointing much more towards (1) than (4), leading players to miss (4). I suggest a smoother flow here to make this clearer to read
00:53:306 (3) - Might overlap with some skinned score bars, consider moving down slightly, or even better, curving to blanket the head of 00:54:378 (4)
00:57:949 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - This rhythm is really confusing for me as you're changing what you follow mid-combo. 00:57:949 (1,2) - follows the synth, (3) follows both to an extent, whilst 00:59:735 (4,5,1) - follow the drums (and ignore the really prominent synth notes. On top of this, for following the drums here, skipping the downbeat on 00:59:735 (4,5,1) with a slider body feels really strange. I suggest sticking to a single rhythm here to make this clearer to read
01:27:235 (2,1) - Stack with he slider end can be improved slightly here by moving the central node to [290,143] and the tail node to [364,207]
01:32:235 (6) - NC here please, same reasoning as 00:15:092 (6)
01:39:021 (3) - Slider body may overlap with some skinned health bars, try moving it down a tiny bit
02:13:306 (3,5) - Similar to 01:27:235 (2,1) - stack can be improved slightly here
02:39:378 - There's a spinner at the end of the song in all the other diffs, why not include one here too?

Hard

00:10:449 (4,5,7) - These could be moved down a little to avoid overlapping some skinned health bars
00:20:806 (6) - NC here as this combo gets kinda long and is inconsistent in length with your others combos
00:38:306 (2) - Might overlap with some skinned score bars, consider moving down slightly
00:41:521 (3,4) - If you want to create anti-jumps like this in a Hard diff, it would be a huge help to NC them for better readability; otherwise try an alternative pattern that avoids the anti-jump. You use this technique a lot in this diff, and it really detracts from the playability of the map for me
01:08:842 - I don't know why you left a pause here when this beat is arguably more prominent than 01:08:664 (5) before it
01:09:021 (6) - NC to highlight the antijump would be welcome here
02:22:949 (5) - Try shortening this by 1/2 and making 02:23:842 (1) a 1/2 slider starting on the downbeat, as it feels more natural for the downbeat note to be clickable here
02:34:914 (1,2) - Swap NC here to emphasise the downbeat
02:37:949 (4) - NC to highlight the antijump and 3/2 pattern would be welcome here

Insane

00:02:949 (8,9,10,11,1) - Not sure why the spacing is so high on tis pattern considering (8) is the most prominent sound and has almost none
00:12:235 (9,1) - Swap NC here to emphasise the downbeat and finish hitsound on (9)
00:43:664 (1) - Arrangement of the pattern 00:42:771 (9,10,11,12,13,1) indicates that this object should be placed more to the right at [343,254]
01:05:806 (1,1) - Reasoning for both of these notes having an NC?
01:24:735 (6) - Might overlap with some skinned score bars, consider moving down slightly
02:05:092 (3) - This sound is an after-effect of the previous note, and so doesn't really warrant a clickable object in my opinion. Making 02:04:914 (2) a 1/2 slider would follow the music more closely
02:16:164 (4) - Rotate tail 1 degree clockwise to improve the stack with 02:15:806 (3)

This is all from me. Hopefully you find this mod helpful, but if you have any questions, feel free to get back to me and I'll do what I can to help.

Good luck! (:

Exa

445 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

Exa 2015-10-06T16:37:26+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:
I am late ): Came earlier than expected though :3

General Comments:
Song Folder: Unused .osb file present, please remove this No OSB here :3
Song Setup: Consider balancing out the AR spread between Normal>Hard a little, since 5>8 is pretty sizeable jump. Lowering the Hard to AR7 doesn't impact on the readability of the map for me and creates a nice E->I spread of 3/5/7/9 Did AR 7.5
Metadata: No issues
Timing: No issues
Hitsounds: soft-hitfinish3, soft-hitwhistle4 and soft sliderslide3 are unused - please remove these. Deleted them a while ago.
AImod: No issues
Difficulty-Specific Comments:

Easy
00:09:378 (1) - This is very close to the health bar and may overlap with some skinned variants. I suggest you move it down a little to avoid this Changed!
00:18:664 (1,2,3) - Although this pattern is neat and tidy, considering the direction of cursor movement here, it's more natural to move to (3) instead of (2) here, which could trip up newer players. I suggest flattening out the triangle a bit here to make the intended sequence more clear to beginners Couldn't move (3) up since it overlaped with the health bad, so I changed to pattern completely.
00:41:878 (2,3,1) - Similar thing here, but not as problematic. Rotating (3,1) anticlockwise slightly but keeping the equilateral triangle might help a little, but I don't feel changing this is essential It made a pretty nice blanket though :3
01:26:164 (3,1) - Kind of an awkward flow here for an Easy diff, making this a more flowing curve between 01:26:164 (3,2) would be better here in my opinion I am using this pattern more than once though out this difficulty, it's purpose is to emphasize the strong bass by making the flow "a bit" edgy but readable enough by using NC.
02:29:378 (1,2,3,4) - I feel the snare drum sounds are under-emphasised in this section and it plays a little weirdly because of that. For example, (2) could be shortened to a 2/1 slider with a bend on the middle white tick as you've been doing throughout the rest of the map (00:20:806 (3) is a good example). This would then allow you to move (3) back to start on the downbeat which feels more natural to play as it's a more recognisable rhythm. Shortening this to a 2/1 slider as well allows you to put a repeat slider at 02:33:306 which is consistent with the "car locking sound" patterns used at 00:39:021 (2) - 01:24:735 (2) and lastly a 1/1 slider at 02:34:378 to emphasise the short vocal note.
Changed it just like you said.

Normal
00:05:092 (3,4,1) - Blanketing can be improved here Equalized the distance of the notes from the sliders's heads and tails.
00:12:235 (7,1) - Swap NC here to emphasise the downbeat Done.
00:15:092 (6) - NC here as this combo gets kinda long and is inconsistent in length with your others combos Nice catch.
00:16:164 (7) - This has the potential to overlap with some skinned health bars, move it down a little please Moved down!
00:17:235 (9,1) - I feel it would be better to make this two 1/1 sliders, since 00:17:949 is a strong enough note to warrant being clickable I agree, done.
00:34:021 (1,2) - Blanket can be improved by curving (2) more (this is present in other places too, such as 00:38:306 (1,2) - 01:24:378 (2,3) - etc. Went for aesthetical consistency by using the same slider but meh. Fixed!
00:43:664 (6) - NC here please, same reason as 00:15:092 (6) NC'd
00:50:449 (3,4,1) - Flow is kinda awkward for newer players here since (3) is pointing much more towards (1) than (4), leading players to miss (4). I suggest a smoother flow here to make this clearer to read I was expecting that not to be alright. Changed to a much more user-friendly flow.
00:53:306 (3) - Might overlap with some skinned score bars, consider moving down slightly, or even better, curving to blanket the head of 00:54:378 (4) Alterned it a bit to look like a candy stick >.< since it doesn't blanket well without overlapping with the previous stuffs.
00:57:949 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - This rhythm is really confusing for me as you're changing what you follow mid-combo. 00:57:949 (1,2) - follows the synth, (3) follows both to an extent, whilst 00:59:735 (4,5,1) - follow the drums (and ignore the really prominent synth notes. On top of this, for following the drums here, skipping the downbeat on 00:59:735 (4,5,1) with a slider body feels really strange. I suggest sticking to a single rhythm here to make this clearer to read I think it's much better now.
01:27:235 (2,1) - Stack with he slider end can be improved slightly here by moving the central node to [290,143] and the tail node to [364,207] Did Ctrl+G on (1), stacked it perfectly and Ctrl+G back.
01:32:235 (6) - NC here please, same reasoning as 00:15:092 (6) Yup.
01:39:021 (3) - Slider body may overlap with some skinned health bars, try moving it down a tiny bit Moved down.
02:13:306 (3,5) - Similar to 01:27:235 (2,1) - stack can be improved slightly here Aye Aye.
02:39:378 - There's a spinner at the end of the song in all the other diffs, why not include one here too?
I swear it was there XD

Hard
00:10:449 (4,5,7) - These could be moved down a little to avoid overlapping some skinned health bars Moved down just a bit since the patterns around it won't let me more.
00:20:806 (6) - NC here as this combo gets kinda long and is inconsistent in length with your others combos Nice catch.
00:38:306 (2) - Might overlap with some skinned score bars, consider moving down slightly Moved down slightly.
00:41:521 (3,4) - If you want to create anti-jumps like this in a Hard diff, it would be a huge help to NC them for better readability; otherwise try an alternative pattern that avoids the anti-jump. You use this technique a lot in this diff, and it really detracts from the playability of the map for me Some ended up being single-combo objects but I guess that's what it takes.
01:08:842 - I don't know why you left a pause here when this beat is arguably more prominent than 01:08:664 (5) before it 5 has dolphin, this red tick has not :> I am mapping the dolphin sounds since they are far more noticeable than these. It would be inconsistent to map that out of the blue
01:09:021 (6) - NC to highlight the antijump would be welcome here Done beforehard :3
02:22:949 (5) - Try shortening this by 1/2 and making 02:23:842 (1) a 1/2 slider starting on the downbeat, as it feels more natural for the downbeat note to be clickable here Done!
02:34:914 (1,2) - Swap NC here to emphasise the downbeat Yup.
02:37:949 (4) - NC to highlight the antijump and 3/2 pattern would be welcome here
Insane
00:02:949 (8,9,10,11,1) - Not sure why the spacing is so high on tis pattern considering (8) is the most prominent sound and has almost none it has none cause it's right after 3/4. Also I am increasing spacing on the white tick to emphasize the blob sound.
00:12:235 (9,1) - Swap NC here to emphasise the downbeat and finish hitsound on (9) Done!
00:43:664 (1) - Arrangement of the pattern 00:42:771 (9,10,11,12,13,1) indicates that this object should be placed more to the right at [343,254] Moved it!
01:05:806 (1,1) - Reasoning for both of these notes having an NC? None at all. Fixed!
01:24:735 (6) - Might overlap with some skinned score bars, consider moving down slightly I would love to move that but it completely destroys the arrangement of 3 patterns in a row O.O
02:05:092 (3) - This sound is an after-effect of the previous note, and so doesn't really warrant a clickable object in my opinion. Making 02:04:914 (2) a 1/2 slider would follow the music more closely It really seems like it needs an impactful hitobject there since there is also a bass sound there.
02:16:164 (4) - Rotate tail 1 degree clockwise to improve the stack with 02:15:806 (3)
Improved!

This is all from me. Hopefully you find this mod helpful, but if you have any questions, feel free to get back to me and I'll do what I can to help.

Good luck! (: It was helpful indeed! Thanks for your effort :3

iEatRiceee

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Joined September 2013

iEatRiceee 2015-10-15T03:48:17+00:00

Nice map!

Kitami Erika

Kitami Erika 2015-10-16T18:10:01+00:00

This map is PURELY AWESOME
Please DO rank this

LKs

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Joined August 2009

LKs 2015-10-16T18:19:10+00:00

Farto what happened to you in 3 years???
This map is wtf so tmd fantastic惹 beyond any words i can say are you from 2020???

Yuii-

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Joined July 2013

Yuii- 2015-10-16T22:25:06+00:00

I'd say offset 818~820, but the current one is soooo off, I couldn't even get 85% acc.

Exa

445 posts

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Topic Starter

Exa 2015-10-17T10:24:02+00:00

Yuii- wrote:
I'd say offset 818~820, but the current one is soooo off, I couldn't even get 85% acc.

Seems much better with 818. Changed!

fartownik

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fartownik 2015-10-17T10:40:38+00:00

LKs wrote:
Farto what happened to you in 3 years???
This map is wtf so tmd fantastic惹 beyond any words i can say are you from 2020???

(〃▽〃)

Rockemall

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Rockemall 2015-10-17T17:25:28+00:00

i love this

novotrixes

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Joined July 2014

novotrixes 2015-10-17T21:56:49+00:00

I had this song before but it was incomplete so today I download it and is a really good beatmap

good job to everyone who worked on this

Dora3612

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Joined March 2014

Dora3612 2015-10-18T10:15:39+00:00

00:56:264 (hard) 1 pink is fast :\

Exa

445 posts

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Topic Starter

Exa 2015-10-18T10:29:25+00:00

Dora3612 wrote:
00:56:264 (hard) 1 pink is fast :\

Not really :/

- Frontier -

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- Frontier - 2015-10-23T14:00:10+00:00

http://puu.sh/kUES6/f3377e1e9a.png

Please Ranked soon

Kyozoru

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Kyozoru 2015-10-31T00:33:02+00:00

Nice map, Goodluck to approval! ^^

fartownik

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fartownik 2015-11-01T08:01:26+00:00

ShockoLatte wrote:
Please Ranked soon

Exa

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Exa 2015-11-02T09:02:56+00:00

fartownik wrote:
ShockoLatte wrote:
Please Ranked soon

Waiting for people. Please stand by

agedon

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Joined October 2014

agedon 2015-11-03T04:10:29+00:00

Wow love this map <3 Hope ranked soon

mies4444

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Joined October 2015

mies4444 2015-11-04T11:28:01+00:00

loving this map and song bro gl

Drago FNAM

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Joined August 2015

Drago FNAM 2015-11-09T01:11:49+00:00

this beatmap is really in tune and I just love it!😃😄😁😉😊😏😤
you should rank it definitely

Det

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Joined July 2012

Det 2015-11-14T10:37:01+00:00

hype

fartownik

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fartownik 2015-11-15T03:13:16+00:00

fireives1967

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fireives1967 2015-11-15T06:20:35+00:00

Awesome map / song! Don't think this will help much, but maybe changing the background picture will help, since the circle colour kind of camouflages with the background pic. Though most people dim their background. But yeah other than that, this beatmap is spot on, and is definitely ranked worthy already!

Really hope this gets ranked! ~

[Suguri]

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Joined December 2014

[Suguri] 2015-11-24T05:26:49+00:00

( ´∀｀)ノ～ ♡ *take my revive for this beatmap <3*

I love this

Aldwych

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Joined February 2012

Aldwych 2015-11-26T14:26:14+00:00

M4M Requested IG.

[General]

Wow such tags. I didn't notices all this sounds the first i recognize was the FB one.

[Easy]

00:36:175 (2) : The flow you give with the next note is a bit broken. What you could do is to move the tail more on the right like 400;96. That should help a bit.
00:50:496 (2) : Ctrl + g, the flow will improve.
01:36:175 (2) : It's up to you but maybe you can go on a simple blanket for the one... i don't know just maybe because this slider shape doesn't felt well here.
01:55:103 : 20 sec break, that's a bit too much, you'll may have to map this map (i said may ok? D:).
02:06:532 (1) : Hmmm imo this shape is a bit odd compared to your others sliders, moreover when that could be a simple blanket slider.
02:06:532 ++ : I'm afrad that you may have to remap this section, the problem is about the unconcistency with the NC with the rest of your map. Maybe that's not a problem. But the combo are quite long and it's really visible.
02:38:496 (1,1) : Imo these soft hitsounds are strange compared to the rest of the mapping x)

Anyway, that's a nice easy. I don't really know what to say but the last kiai.

[Normal]

00:04:389 : The general flow can be improved by moving to ~358;55. The flow after is good, but the previous can be improved a bit.
00:06:889 : The combo is a bit long, you should NC here.
00:07:603 : Why did you go for a linea slider instead of a blanket. That should be nicer.
00:11:889 : The overlapp is a bit too much imo, maybe you should move to ~x=256. That will make the slider more visible.
00:18:317 : Imo the NC may be here.
00:21:889 (2,3,4) : It seems that you try to "blanket" the tail with these circles, however it could be really perfectible, use the approach circle to help you.
00:41:532 : Compared to the previous slider, it is a bit outpositionned, how about move to ~160;149 ?
00:42:960 (3,5) : Imo the shapes together felt a bit akward, maybe you'll update this section if other ppl told it.
01:41:889 : I don't get the point to go on a linear slider while the previous is a wave, also because they are so close that it feel a bit weird.
02:24:746 (3,4) : These sliders' shape are a bit rude compared to the previous ones, maybe you should smooth the arcs.
02:29:389 : Ctrl-J, that will make it consistent with some of your previous patterns you did before.
02:35:460 : The rythm you're using here is not really consistant with what you've done on the previous pattern of the section. Consider reworking this combo?

[Hard]

00:56:889 : I don't think it's a good decision to do that, right now the tail is a bit hidden. :/
01:09:032 : Not sure if this NC is legit and usefull but ok. (You didn't NC here on normal and easy, insane got NC only at the end)
01:41:889 : I'm ok for a jump but it is not really visible that it's a jump, imo it's more punishable that challenging. Maybe you should increase the DS to 1.8 ~2.00.
02:29:389 : I don't know why you didn't go for a linear movement with the Circles and The slider's head.
02:35:996 : It's up to you but for a most effective symetrical pattern, you should move the circle to x=256

[NOOZAZOON]

MLG TIME

00:07:603 : I don't get the logic of this pattern, i mean about the position of the circles, because (1,4,1²) aren't stacked while (2,3) are stacked with a slider.
00:34:032 : Even if it's a extra, the hidden tail is a bit akward, but you also increase the SV which may surprise the player. Plus you stacked other notes right after, that could confuse ppl.
01:25:817 : Ctrl-g, that will increase the flow.
02:17:514 : I'm not an extra expert, but why did you go for different SV while on the others stream you were consistent, i don't really get it.

How2ModExtra plz.

And that's all gl hf for rank.

Saving the mod (i'm taking my time).

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